November 26, 2025 • 43 mins
The Author is extremely knowledgeable about the harmful effects of the drugs that have been available for many years to the newest drug crazes hitting our streets. Her experience teaching economically disadvantaged, inner city high school students has proven how well she relates to teenagers. As sponsor of Student Council at her school she has excelled with the students. The organization has won numerous awards and two national awards including the Difference Maker Award from the National Association of Student Councils and a Special Recognition Award from America's Blood Bank in Washington, D.C. for the school's outstanding Blood Drives. During her years as sponsor of Student Council, Amy has dedicated herself to educating the students on the harmful effects of drugs and alcohol and has lead numerous campaigns educating the student body. One of her policies with the students is being honest. She answers the students questions about her alcoholism and drug addiction and how she has recovered. Her honesty inspires many of the young people to listen and take heed.
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She is the author of Loved Back to Life and
is an alcoholism, drug addiction and recovery expert. She has
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welcome to the X song.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
You know, I love that. I love the title of
your book, Loved Back to Life.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Thank you, thank you. That's actually how I felt at
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Good for you, Good for you. And I can tell
by your book, and I can tell by the media
that you're getting that you've touched a lot of hearts
in a very special way.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
So, you know, I think this being honest, in opening
up and letting people know that there is hope when
you are addicted, is a big is a big deal
because when I was first in getting out of the
addiction and in recovery, I didn't even know that the
things that are available for help existed. I had no idea.
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And I want people to know that there is help
out there now.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You see, you have been in a long term recovery
for twenty years. Now, can you what that means?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I'm really an alcoholic in an addict, and I
have not had a drink or a drug since nineteen
eighty eight, like you said, and long term recovery for
me is being part of a recovery support group. You know,
twelve step programs. There's a lot of them out there,
you know, for everything. Actually, I mean they have them
for gambling, they have them for overeating, alcoholics, anonymous, narcotics, anonymous,
(09:23):
they have all kinds of different twelve step programs for
people addicted. And I'm in a recovery group like that,
And that recovery group is what made me completely change
my viewpoint and about myself and about life and everything
and begin and learn actually how to live because I
didn't know how to live without alcohol and drugs.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So you began abusing alcohol and drugs at a very
young age, didn't you and didn't your parents? Didn't your
parents catch on?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, Because when I grew up, my family had alcoholism.
My father was an alcoholic, My grandparents were alcoholics. Uncle
was alcoholic. So being in that environment, you know, you
think it's the norm. You think everybody does that, and
that's what I thought, and you know, because my parents
thought that, because that's how they were raised also, and
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as a result, you didn't think anything it was strange
about it at all. I mean, and you know, from
a very young age, at like five, you know, I
was allowed to have little glass, little shot of beer.
And the funniest part o thing is every night before
I went to bed, I was able to, like we
had a little party. You could have an ice cream
or cookie or something. And my favorite was banilla ice
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cream with creamed him with mindport over the top of it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know. I used to go to my we used
to go to my uncle's and that's what he'd give us,
that dessert exactly, And.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I love that. I'd have that a lot. So you know,
if you had that addicted behavior and it runs in
your family, your chances of becoming an addict or much
greater than somebody who doesn't have that.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now, did you think as a teenager that you may
have had a problem with alcohol or drugs or did
you think it was the norm?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now? I really thought it was the norm. I really did.
You know, people who are addicted to alcohol and drugs,
we surround ourselves with other people who do the same thing.
So it's the norm in all our areas and our friendships,
in our household. We don't want to be around people
who don't use and drink because then it's so fun,
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you know. For us, that's what we think.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What were some of the effects of abusing alcohol and
drugs that we first started noticing, Well, for me.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I got very very thin. My drug of choice was cocaine,
and I had a serious problem with eating and lost
a whole lot of weight and got very very ill
that way. And it was also I ended up at
the same time when all this cocaine was happening and
(12:04):
I was going through my bottom, I also got very
sick and got a parasite in my upfrontestine, So I
know it was it was not a good a good sign,
you know, but I used the parasite as my excuse
for being sick and didn't want to admit that it
was also the cocaine that was making me so ill.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I understand that several of your friends died in drunk
driving accidents in a very short period of time. Did
you ever stop and think it could happen to you?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know, it's amazing because you know, even kids today
we think were instructible. You know, when I was a canvas,
I was instructible. I did not think that that kind
of thing would happen to me. It was happening to
everyone around me. On my graduation night, Three of my
friends died on my graduation night from high school. And
you know, you'd think that it would register. And you know,
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it's wild looking back now after you know, being clean
and cumber for so long and thinking, how could I
ever not have realized, you know, that this was this
exact same thing could happen to me, and you just
don't when you are in the disease and you're in
the addiction, you just don't. You don't think it's gonna
happen to you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So how did you beat it?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
How did I beat it? Yeah, well, it's sort of
a funny story because I was living with a gentleman
who sold drugs so he was a drug dealer and
he came home one day and he looked at me
and he said, we gotta get you help. He said,
you're gonna die if we don't get you help. And
he took me to treatment. So my drug dealer took
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me to treatment and dropped me off. And you know,
you know you're in trouble when you're behind the doors
of treatment and the drug dealer leaves, you know, you
know you're in trouble. And that's pretty much how I
ended up getting help. And when I was in treatment,
they started to taking me to the support group meetings
in the twelve step programs and that's what what got
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me through and what helped me change. And it was
a process. It's not something that happens overnight. You know.
I had to change a lot in my life, everything
in my life, and that was a process for me.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I have to ask you, what was going through your
mind when you have four friends dying drunk driving accidents
in such a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
You know it. I was so saddened by it that,
being an alcoholic, I wanted to drink more. And that's
what I did. I was I didn't want to feel
the pain, and I went ahead and just drank and
used drugs more. As a matter of fact, right after
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my one friend in college died in a drunk driving accident,
I was an horrendous car accident that when I was
driving and I ran head on into a tree going
extremely fast, and I somehow or another, we the kid
with me and I woke up on the on the
(15:05):
side of the road and we were we were fine
in the car. There was nothing left to the car. Amazing.
It's it's it's sad to look back and think that
we were actually driving like that, that we were.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
How did your alcoholism meant drug addiction progress through college?
You know, looking back, was it a blur?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It really? You know, It's funny because the one of
the effects that the alcoholism and drug addiction has did
have on me is that I do not have good
memory at all. And looking back through college, I remember
certain events and everything, but literally, I mean I was
drinking constantly. I was a little sister to a fraternity
and you know, back then, I mean fraternities was all
(15:54):
about drinking, you know, I mean, especially the one I
was in. And so once again I surround I did
myself with a bunch of people who drank and used
drugs just like I did. So I was very comfortable.
But looking back, I can see how quickly it progressed.
In just a matter of two to three years. You know,
I went from never using cocaine to using cocaine every
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single day, like within two years.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That is unbelievable. Yeah, how much how much was it cost?
How much was it costing you? And where were you
getting the money?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, that's a great question. Well, see, I lived
with the different drug dealers.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I called myself this the serial drug dealer Lady. I
lived with drug dealers. So I lived here for a
couple of years, and then I go on to a
different drug dealer and live with him for a couple
of years. So I was able to get the drugs
for nothing because I was living with the drug dealers.
I think that's how a lot of the women end
up doing it, even though we were in college and
(16:55):
things like that, and it's not like, you know, I
was living on the streets or something. Even so I
was doing the same pattern as the people in the
streets were doing to get their drugs. I was just
living with the guys.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
And I think That's how a.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Lot of women got Was there a specific point you
remember looking back on where you knew that you had
a serious problem, Like, what was it that rang the bell?
I mean, you know, besides the boyfriend driving to get help,
there must have been some sign, some bells, some flags
going on in you.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Well, you know. The first time that I really realized
it was one of my friends from college had moved
moved back to Dallas, where I'm from, and we were
going out every single night, and we were we were
partying every single night, and she also had an eating disorder,
and she ended up she got very very ill. It
was put in treatment for her eating disorder and her
(17:46):
alcohol and drug usage. But that was the first time
that I actually sat there and thought to myself, oh
my god, something's wrong with me, you know, And I
found the feelings inside. I can't even describe it because
it's I was so completely depressed and I just felt
(18:07):
like a huge black hole was in the side of me.
And and you know, I had no self worth and
no self confidence and just I was miserable. I was
completely miserable. And it was about that time when I
knew that something had to change, and actually I was
just hoping that I go to sleep and not wake up.
This is really what I was hoping.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, I'm glad you went to sleep and you did
wake up.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For you, I tell you too the time, I wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
How did you get through college?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
You know, it's being an obsessive, compulsive addict. I studied
like you wouldn't believe. I would sit there and I
would study with my drugs and my alcohol, and then
you know, my drugs were always uppers. So I was
up all night studying and I study, study, study, study, study,
(18:58):
And that's how I got through.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Did you ever think that you would? Did you ever
think that you were going to be writing a book
and helping people?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh? God, no, no, no, no no. And when you know,
especially first in recovery, for the first you know, several years,
you know, it's very very difficult. At least it was
for me. You know, I had to change my beliefs
about how many different things, first of all about myself.
And I never imagined that I would ever be as
happy and have the kind of life I have today
(19:33):
because I had never experienced happiness. I had never truly
felt love, happiness, peace. I didn't even know those feelings
to know what I was missing.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
All right, stand by my dear friend. You and I
have to take a commercial break in the news. Amy
Crowell is our a special guest. Her website is www
dot loved Back to life dot com. We'll be back
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Amy Crowell List are our special guest. Her website is
www dot lovedbacktolife dot com. Amy, What was the process
you went through at the beginning of your sobriet.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, first of all, when you go into recovery, you
have to completely detox, and that was very you know,
it depends because these parts are so different, and it
was difficult for me because I was so thin and
I was so depressed that you know, getting the drugs
out of my system just sort of complicated it even more.
(22:22):
But once I'm in there, and once you start getting detox,
you do start feeling physically better and you're able to
eat and those kind of things. And it's sort of
wild because the first year I was sober, I actually
grew like an inch two inches in height, an inch
and a half or so in height, and you know,
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the doctors. We all lacked about it. But you know,
I started drinking at such a young age that I
was drinking all the way through my teenage years and
my puberty, So it wasn't surprising that my body actually
started growing and developing where it never had a chance
to before.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So tell me what had to change within you for
you to be alcohol and drug free for now?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Everything? Literally? You know, I went in. I believe that
one of the reasons is that I do stay sober
every day is that I do not want to go
back to where I came from. I do not want
to have those feelings I had. I felt like I
(23:29):
was going to I felt like I was just I
felt like I had so much built up inside of music.
I was just going to spontaneously combust. And I never
ever want to go through when I went through and rehab,
and I hope I never forget those feelings. But you
(23:50):
know it, over time, I had to learn to completely
change my thoughts. You know, I never had any self worth.
I didn't have any self confidence, and I had to
learn learn that through my recovery group. I had to
learn to rely on higher powers and people and trust people,
and I had to learn completely everything, how like a
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regular person learns to live. Because I had never had
the basic structure of that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
What kind of changes did you go through physiologically when
you were you know, going from an alcoholic and addicted
to cocaine to being a straight person. Was it hard?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It was? It was very hard. It really was to
try into the obsessions, you know, for the alcohol and
the drugs. You know, that's something that everybody has to
deal with when they're first, you know, getting getting clean
and sober. But you learn to put in its place,
going to meetings and reading the literature and doing commun
(25:00):
unity service work. You learn to get out of yourself
instead of concentrating on yourself. And once you get out
of yourself and start helping and doing other things and
filling your life with other things, positive things, then the
obsession slowly goes away, at least for me it did.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Now I understand you're very involved with Inner City at
you at Risk youth. I'm wondering if you could tell
us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Oh, I love it. I taught for six years down
in inner City Dallas actually, and it's an amazing experience.
The kids, you know, the kids are completely different than
how I grew up and very they will experiment with anything,
you know, when it comes to drugs. One of the
household products the new drug right now is cheese and
(25:53):
it's very prevalent in Dallas, but it really hasn't hinted
very much to the rest of the country yet it will.
But what there's doing as they're mixing heroin and tylan
l PM WOW and yes and being too depressants, what's
happening is it's they look like they've passed out at
a party. But what's happened is their lungs have shut
down and then they just go to sleep and don't
(26:15):
wake up.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Haven't there been two deaths in Dallas in the last
two years with shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
There's been two dozen two dozen deaths in the last
two years with this new drug. One of the problems
with it is it's just extremely inexpensive. It's like two
dollars for a little bump as they call it, you know,
one usage, and ten dollars for a gram. Okay, I
mean that's unheard of, and so it's very cheap and
(26:41):
they're you know, I hate to say this, but the
drug dealers are marketers. Let me tell you they are
flavoring the drug with grape and strawberry and everything, so
the younger kids think it's some sort of a candy
or something. They have no idea. It's heroin, and you know,
so it's it's a serious situation. The child who died
at our school was fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Now what are the top ten places teens are hiding
their drugs?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know, it is amazing because the did the kids
helped me out with this or at school, and I
had no idea. Well, you know, nowadays with all the
electronic devices and everything, Okay, they they're hiding them inside
the computers. They lift up the outside shell and they're
putting them on the inside of computers and putting the
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shell back down. I would never have thought of that.
We didn't even have computers back what I was using.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
So all right, give all the kids laptops. They can't
pull that off. Then if they have a laptop, can
they Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Most of them don't have laptop, especially where I'm teaching.
They're lucky to have a computer at home. But anything electronic,
I mean, it's pretty amazing. On the back of keyboards,
the either place that the girls hide them and this
is pretty amazing. In their purse. They will hide them.
They'll take a tampon and they'll take everything out of
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the tube and then put the drugs in the tube
and put it back in the package.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Push. Amazing and then all right, so that's two. Let's
go eight more.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Okay, we have They hide them in their calculators. That's
another place because what they do is they pop out
the batteries and they put the I know, and then
they have little you know, the little there's little tiny
little packages and they pop out the batteries and they
put them in there telephones the same thing they take
out their cell phones. But you know, and you don't
think that little battery in the cell phones can take
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up a lot of space. But if it's anything that's
a powder material, that's a lot that'll hold a lot.
Back there.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
What's the average age of the user in law school?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now, Well, it does go up as they go starting
the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, and twelfth grade. But it's sad.
The statistics are the the majority of the kids have
experimented with some illegal drug at some time in high school,
which is hard, which is really hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Still what turns the child onto drugs? Is it peer pressure?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I think a lot of it is. I think a
lot of it is what's at home. I think a
lot of it is peer pressure. You know, For me,
it sort of was a natural factor coming from an
alcoholic household, being an alcoholic at a young age, My
next step was using drugs. I mean that was just
a hate to say it, but it was a natural
progression for what I was in. And I think that
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people who don't have that at home and don't have
that progression, that yes, it is peer pressure. I think
a lot of it is. Like that one child who
died who was fourteen here in Dallas, it really was
his first time he had ever used that kind of
drug that he had ever taken cheese.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What can a parent look for in a child if
they suspect the child taking drugs?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
You know, I always say, try, no matter how hard
it is sometimes to keep that communication open and try
to talk as much as possible to a child, because
even if you don't expect them to be using drugs,
you can at least know if their behaviors change, if
they change friends, if their grades start going down, if
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they start losing weight, mood swings, dizzyness, anything like that,
and if you are close enough you have an open
communication with your child, you will begin recognizing that there
could be something wrong, so you're able to catch it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
What can the schools do to crack down on drugs?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You know the schools at the school they are actually
doing a lot. They have every year they have Red
Ribbon Week in October. All the schools cross countries are
actually supposed to have it, and they educate the kids
during that week about drugs and alcohol. I personally think
it should be something that they're discussed more in health
class as they get older, so that they understand what
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happens exactly to their bodies, what can happen to when
they're using illegal drugs to their brain, you know all that.
I think all that should be discussed in health class
a lot more than it is psychology. They offer psychology
now in high school. It should be talked about there.
It Actually they're doing pretty good in Dallas about discussing
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more and more of you know, don't drive drunk, and
you know, explaining about what cheese is so if somebody
does encounter it, they understand not to not to use it.
So they're trying. They're also trying to educate the parents,
you know, after schools and things like that. That sadly,
a lot of parents don't go to the meeting, you know,
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they have the attitude that my kids not doing it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
So the ostriche syndrome.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, if you're head in the grand you don't have
to see anything. Then that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
When a child is is on drugs, how hard is
it to get them off?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
It varies. Each person's an individuals, so it completely varies.
But you know, if they are ready to quit using
and they realize that they have a problem, and they
admit it to themselves, then anything's possible. I've seen people
get clean and sober at a very young age. I
know a girl who got sober at sixteen years old
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and she's thirty years old now. She's still in recovery
support groups and speaks at a lot of different places.
So it's possible. You just have to know that, you know,
you are the one with the problem. You know, it's
not everybody else around you, it's you, and you have
to want it to get sober. And unless you have
that and the parent and the kid has that, the
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parents can't say anything to get them sober.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Do you think that drug laws are strict enough or
should they restrict her?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You know, it's difficult because you know they're doing the
best they can, but oh my god, they have a
lot to do. You know, they're doing the best they can,
but you know, they're pretty strict right now. But you know,
it's so much of the drugs are coming in illegally
from Mexico in the different countries and everything. I would
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just wish that they'd be able to stop stop it
more in the in the big bulks, because it is
coming in in big bulks, and it's just not happening
right now. Something's missing, And of course I don't have
the answer for that.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I was watching a news item on CNN this morning
where just on the other side of the Mexican border,
they are finding marijuana grows in public parks, in public areas,
you know, and the and the rate that they did
that was on TV was they estimated forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it doesn't surprise me. They just
did that here in Dallas, down and around the area
where I teach. Actually, they found this huge field down
there out in the middle of nowhere, that was completely
you know, all pop plants that were being cultivated, and
it was the same situation, millions of dollars, you know,
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but it was out the middle of nowhere and nobody
somebody you know, narked them out and they got caught,
so they got mad and.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Told on them.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
There's always been the discussion about whether or not they
should legalizes marijuana. What's your stance on that.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
You know, it's it's a rough one because being an addict,
you know, I believe marijuana is a drug that is
depressing and does cause harm and and people are unmotivated
when they smoke it on a regular basis, and that
(34:51):
just becomes part of their life. So you know, I
do think it should be illegal. But at the same time,
so many people are using it that you know, maybe
it should be taxed, you know. I mean, there's I
see both sides. It's a difficult it's a difficult choice there.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Now. I understand that teens are getting a buzz from
everyday household products these days.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yes, this is scary because you talk about something parents
just would never expect. Okay, they're they're getting high off
just things laying around the house, like pledge furniture polish.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You can get high off.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Pledge, yes, anything like that. That's a sprayy odorant. They
actually inhale the fumes by putting the bag over their
head and putting it in there, and then the fumes,
the toxic fumes. They're getting high from mm hmm. And
it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I wonder my wife likes dusting so much.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Well, you know, if you find a bunch of pledge
later on into the kid's room, I doubt if they're cleaning. Okay,
that might be a hint there.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
What else can parents look for as far as household
does solve one of the.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Worst things right now, that is just catching on. As
a matter of fact, the kids at school had been
talking about this, the dust off. I don't know if
you're familiar with dust offs, but they come in cans
and then you attach a little straw and it's for
your computers.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It like dust off your computers.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
It's fraisal air dust off your computers. While that has
like a free on in it, right, and it's it's
some sort of a you know, coolant, And the kids
think it's like just compressed air, so they're inhaling it
through the straw and it is freezing their lungs and
they're dying instantly from it. I mean, they're found with
(36:41):
the straws in their mouth and their eyes open. It's
the saddest thing. And they, as I said, they think
it's it's compressed there and that it's not a problem.
And yeah, and you know, I went to the store
the other day and was looking for a can and
found that they had the kids had opened all the
can and store out all right, stand by them, Okay.
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loved back to Life. That's www dot loved back to
life dot com. First of all, Amy, thank you very
much for joining us. It's been an enlightening.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Powers great thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And you've got to tell me about your motorcycle therapy.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Well, I started riding motorcycles when I first got sober.
So I started riding when I was about twenty five
and I'm forty five now and I ride all the time.
I have a hot pink motorcycle and it's got pink
led lights so it glows hot pink at night, and
I ride all the time with a group of sober people.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
What kind of bite do you have.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's a Honda that's been customized.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Wow. Good for you. Now, Now, what are some of
the program support groups and information that parents and kids
who who want to kick the habit can actually go to.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
The best places to do is you can go on
the Internet, or you can look in your Yellow Pages
and you can look for groups that anything twelve Step
related is what I recommend. Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous. Now,
if you have a drug problem, you can still go
to AA. A lot of people don't realize that, Okay,
it's for both. Is for drug addicts and alcoholics than anything.
(41:04):
If somebody has an overeating problem, they have overeaters Anonymous,
they have gamblers Anonymous, they have nicotine anonymous. Anything to
do with twelve step programs is what I highly recommend.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Why is the twelve step program so successful?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
You know, I think it's because people there have already
experienced what the person is going through when they're getting sober.
And even though I believe in therapists and I believe
in psychiatrists, I think they're very, very important, especially for
a lot of alcoholics, because so many of us suffer
(41:40):
from other things. It's just me, it's depression. And I
was also a razor. I had a very serious problem
with anger, so I needed extra help. But the programs.
When you're around people who are going through the same
thing and can guide you in the right direction, it's
a completely different feeling. It makes you learn through them.
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I think it's definitely necessary.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Their experience is your best.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Teacher, absolutely, no question.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Amy. What other projects are you working on?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Well, right now, I'm going to be working for the
Association of Persons Affected by Addictions here in Dallas, and
I'm really excited because I'm going to start working for
them in the next month or so. And we do
we help a lot of the people who are in
the transitional stage. We work with a lot of the
homeless people, getting them into housing recoveries they have. We
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have ged programs educating the community on alcoholism drug abuse.
So I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
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us and if there's anything we could ever do here
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Speaker 4 (42:52):
Really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
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welcome to the X song.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
You know, I love that. I love the title of
your book, Loved Back to Life.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Thank you, thank you. That's actually how I felt at
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Good for you, Good for you. And I can tell
by your book, and I can tell by the media
that you're getting that you've touched a lot of hearts
in a very special way.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
So, you know, I think this being honest, in opening
up and letting people know that there is hope when
you are addicted, is a big is a big deal
because when I was first in getting out of the
addiction and in recovery, I didn't even know that the
things that are available for help existed. I had no idea.
(08:52):
And I want people to know that there is help
out there now.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You see, you have been in a long term recovery
for twenty years. Now, can you what that means?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I'm really an alcoholic in an addict, and I
have not had a drink or a drug since nineteen
eighty eight, like you said, and long term recovery for
me is being part of a recovery support group. You know,
twelve step programs. There's a lot of them out there,
you know, for everything. Actually, I mean they have them
for gambling, they have them for overeating, alcoholics, anonymous, narcotics, anonymous,
(09:23):
they have all kinds of different twelve step programs for
people addicted. And I'm in a recovery group like that,
And that recovery group is what made me completely change
my viewpoint and about myself and about life and everything
and begin and learn actually how to live because I
didn't know how to live without alcohol and drugs.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So you began abusing alcohol and drugs at a very
young age, didn't you and didn't your parents? Didn't your
parents catch on?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, Because when I grew up, my family had alcoholism.
My father was an alcoholic, My grandparents were alcoholics. Uncle
was alcoholic. So being in that environment, you know, you
think it's the norm. You think everybody does that, and
that's what I thought, and you know, because my parents
thought that, because that's how they were raised also, and
(10:14):
as a result, you didn't think anything it was strange
about it at all. I mean, and you know, from
a very young age, at like five, you know, I
was allowed to have little glass, little shot of beer.
And the funniest part o thing is every night before
I went to bed, I was able to, like we
had a little party. You could have an ice cream
or cookie or something. And my favorite was banilla ice
(10:37):
cream with creamed him with mindport over the top of it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know. I used to go to my we used
to go to my uncle's and that's what he'd give us,
that dessert exactly, And.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I love that. I'd have that a lot. So you know,
if you had that addicted behavior and it runs in
your family, your chances of becoming an addict or much
greater than somebody who doesn't have that.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now, did you think as a teenager that you may
have had a problem with alcohol or drugs or did
you think it was the norm?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now? I really thought it was the norm. I really did.
You know, people who are addicted to alcohol and drugs,
we surround ourselves with other people who do the same thing.
So it's the norm in all our areas and our friendships,
in our household. We don't want to be around people
who don't use and drink because then it's so fun,
(11:31):
you know. For us, that's what we think.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What were some of the effects of abusing alcohol and
drugs that we first started noticing, Well, for me.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I got very very thin. My drug of choice was cocaine,
and I had a serious problem with eating and lost
a whole lot of weight and got very very ill
that way. And it was also I ended up at
the same time when all this cocaine was happening and
(12:04):
I was going through my bottom, I also got very
sick and got a parasite in my upfrontestine, So I
know it was it was not a good a good sign,
you know, but I used the parasite as my excuse
for being sick and didn't want to admit that it
was also the cocaine that was making me so ill.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I understand that several of your friends died in drunk
driving accidents in a very short period of time. Did
you ever stop and think it could happen to you?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know, it's amazing because you know, even kids today
we think were instructible. You know, when I was a canvas,
I was instructible. I did not think that that kind
of thing would happen to me. It was happening to
everyone around me. On my graduation night, Three of my
friends died on my graduation night from high school. And
you know, you'd think that it would register. And you know,
(12:54):
it's wild looking back now after you know, being clean
and cumber for so long and thinking, how could I
ever not have realized, you know, that this was this
exact same thing could happen to me, and you just
don't when you are in the disease and you're in
the addiction, you just don't. You don't think it's gonna
happen to you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So how did you beat it?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
How did I beat it? Yeah, well, it's sort of
a funny story because I was living with a gentleman
who sold drugs so he was a drug dealer and
he came home one day and he looked at me
and he said, we gotta get you help. He said,
you're gonna die if we don't get you help. And
he took me to treatment. So my drug dealer took
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me to treatment and dropped me off. And you know,
you know you're in trouble when you're behind the doors
of treatment and the drug dealer leaves, you know, you
know you're in trouble. And that's pretty much how I
ended up getting help. And when I was in treatment,
they started to taking me to the support group meetings
in the twelve step programs and that's what what got
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me through and what helped me change. And it was
a process. It's not something that happens overnight. You know.
I had to change a lot in my life, everything
in my life, and that was a process for me.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I have to ask you, what was going through your
mind when you have four friends dying drunk driving accidents
in such a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
You know it. I was so saddened by it that,
being an alcoholic, I wanted to drink more. And that's
what I did. I was I didn't want to feel
the pain, and I went ahead and just drank and
used drugs more. As a matter of fact, right after
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my one friend in college died in a drunk driving accident,
I was an horrendous car accident that when I was
driving and I ran head on into a tree going
extremely fast, and I somehow or another, we the kid
with me and I woke up on the on the
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side of the road and we were we were fine
in the car. There was nothing left to the car. Amazing.
It's it's it's sad to look back and think that
we were actually driving like that, that we were.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
How did your alcoholism meant drug addiction progress through college?
You know, looking back, was it a blur?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It really? You know, It's funny because the one of
the effects that the alcoholism and drug addiction has did
have on me is that I do not have good
memory at all. And looking back through college, I remember
certain events and everything, but literally, I mean I was
drinking constantly. I was a little sister to a fraternity
and you know, back then, I mean fraternities was all
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about drinking, you know, I mean, especially the one I
was in. And so once again I surround I did
myself with a bunch of people who drank and used
drugs just like I did. So I was very comfortable.
But looking back, I can see how quickly it progressed.
In just a matter of two to three years. You know,
I went from never using cocaine to using cocaine every
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single day, like within two years.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That is unbelievable. Yeah, how much how much was it cost?
How much was it costing you? And where were you
getting the money?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, that's a great question. Well, see, I lived
with the different drug dealers.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I called myself this the serial drug dealer Lady. I
lived with drug dealers. So I lived here for a
couple of years, and then I go on to a
different drug dealer and live with him for a couple
of years. So I was able to get the drugs
for nothing because I was living with the drug dealers.
I think that's how a lot of the women end
up doing it, even though we were in college and
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things like that, and it's not like, you know, I
was living on the streets or something. Even so I
was doing the same pattern as the people in the
streets were doing to get their drugs. I was just
living with the guys.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
And I think That's how a.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Lot of women got Was there a specific point you
remember looking back on where you knew that you had
a serious problem, Like, what was it that rang the bell?
I mean, you know, besides the boyfriend driving to get help,
there must have been some sign, some bells, some flags
going on in you.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Well, you know. The first time that I really realized
it was one of my friends from college had moved
moved back to Dallas, where I'm from, and we were
going out every single night, and we were we were
partying every single night, and she also had an eating disorder,
and she ended up she got very very ill. It
was put in treatment for her eating disorder and her
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alcohol and drug usage. But that was the first time
that I actually sat there and thought to myself, oh
my god, something's wrong with me, you know, And I
found the feelings inside. I can't even describe it because
it's I was so completely depressed and I just felt
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like a huge black hole was in the side of me.
And and you know, I had no self worth and
no self confidence and just I was miserable. I was
completely miserable. And it was about that time when I
knew that something had to change, and actually I was
just hoping that I go to sleep and not wake up.
This is really what I was hoping.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, I'm glad you went to sleep and you did
wake up.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For you, I tell you too the time, I wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
How did you get through college?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
You know, it's being an obsessive, compulsive addict. I studied
like you wouldn't believe. I would sit there and I
would study with my drugs and my alcohol, and then
you know, my drugs were always uppers. So I was
up all night studying and I study, study, study, study, study,
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And that's how I got through.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Did you ever think that you would? Did you ever
think that you were going to be writing a book
and helping people?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh? God, no, no, no, no no. And when you know,
especially first in recovery, for the first you know, several years,
you know, it's very very difficult. At least it was
for me. You know, I had to change my beliefs
about how many different things, first of all about myself.
And I never imagined that I would ever be as
happy and have the kind of life I have today
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because I had never experienced happiness. I had never truly
felt love, happiness, peace. I didn't even know those feelings
to know what I was missing.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
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Amy Crowell List are our special guest. Her website is
www dot lovedbacktolife dot com. Amy, What was the process
you went through at the beginning of your sobriet.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, first of all, when you go into recovery, you
have to completely detox, and that was very you know,
it depends because these parts are so different, and it
was difficult for me because I was so thin and
I was so depressed that you know, getting the drugs
out of my system just sort of complicated it even more.
(22:22):
But once I'm in there, and once you start getting detox,
you do start feeling physically better and you're able to
eat and those kind of things. And it's sort of
wild because the first year I was sober, I actually
grew like an inch two inches in height, an inch
and a half or so in height, and you know,
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the doctors. We all lacked about it. But you know,
I started drinking at such a young age that I
was drinking all the way through my teenage years and
my puberty, So it wasn't surprising that my body actually
started growing and developing where it never had a chance
to before.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So tell me what had to change within you for
you to be alcohol and drug free for now?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Everything? Literally? You know, I went in. I believe that
one of the reasons is that I do stay sober
every day is that I do not want to go
back to where I came from. I do not want
to have those feelings I had. I felt like I
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was going to I felt like I was just I
felt like I had so much built up inside of music.
I was just going to spontaneously combust. And I never
ever want to go through when I went through and rehab,
and I hope I never forget those feelings. But you
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know it, over time, I had to learn to completely
change my thoughts. You know, I never had any self worth.
I didn't have any self confidence, and I had to
learn learn that through my recovery group. I had to
learn to rely on higher powers and people and trust people,
and I had to learn completely everything, how like a
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regular person learns to live. Because I had never had
the basic structure of that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
What kind of changes did you go through physiologically when
you were you know, going from an alcoholic and addicted
to cocaine to being a straight person. Was it hard?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It was? It was very hard. It really was to
try into the obsessions, you know, for the alcohol and
the drugs. You know, that's something that everybody has to
deal with when they're first, you know, getting getting clean
and sober. But you learn to put in its place,
going to meetings and reading the literature and doing commun
(25:00):
unity service work. You learn to get out of yourself
instead of concentrating on yourself. And once you get out
of yourself and start helping and doing other things and
filling your life with other things, positive things, then the
obsession slowly goes away, at least for me it did.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Now I understand you're very involved with Inner City at
you at Risk youth. I'm wondering if you could tell
us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Oh, I love it. I taught for six years down
in inner City Dallas actually, and it's an amazing experience.
The kids, you know, the kids are completely different than
how I grew up and very they will experiment with anything,
you know, when it comes to drugs. One of the
household products the new drug right now is cheese and
(25:53):
it's very prevalent in Dallas, but it really hasn't hinted
very much to the rest of the country yet it will.
But what there's doing as they're mixing heroin and tylan
l PM WOW and yes and being too depressants, what's
happening is it's they look like they've passed out at
a party. But what's happened is their lungs have shut
down and then they just go to sleep and don't
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wake up.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Haven't there been two deaths in Dallas in the last
two years with shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
There's been two dozen two dozen deaths in the last
two years with this new drug. One of the problems
with it is it's just extremely inexpensive. It's like two
dollars for a little bump as they call it, you know,
one usage, and ten dollars for a gram. Okay, I
mean that's unheard of, and so it's very cheap and
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they're you know, I hate to say this, but the
drug dealers are marketers. Let me tell you they are
flavoring the drug with grape and strawberry and everything, so
the younger kids think it's some sort of a candy
or something. They have no idea. It's heroin, and you know,
so it's it's a serious situation. The child who died
at our school was fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Now what are the top ten places teens are hiding
their drugs?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know, it is amazing because the did the kids
helped me out with this or at school, and I
had no idea. Well, you know, nowadays with all the
electronic devices and everything, Okay, they they're hiding them inside
the computers. They lift up the outside shell and they're
putting them on the inside of computers and putting the
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shell back down. I would never have thought of that.
We didn't even have computers back what I was using.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
So all right, give all the kids laptops. They can't
pull that off. Then if they have a laptop, can
they Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Most of them don't have laptop, especially where I'm teaching.
They're lucky to have a computer at home. But anything electronic,
I mean, it's pretty amazing. On the back of keyboards,
the either place that the girls hide them and this
is pretty amazing. In their purse. They will hide them.
They'll take a tampon and they'll take everything out of
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the tube and then put the drugs in the tube
and put it back in the package.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Push. Amazing and then all right, so that's two. Let's
go eight more.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Okay, we have They hide them in their calculators. That's
another place because what they do is they pop out
the batteries and they put the I know, and then
they have little you know, the little there's little tiny
little packages and they pop out the batteries and they
put them in there telephones the same thing they take
out their cell phones. But you know, and you don't
think that little battery in the cell phones can take
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up a lot of space. But if it's anything that's
a powder material, that's a lot that'll hold a lot.
Back there.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
What's the average age of the user in law school?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now, Well, it does go up as they go starting
the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, and twelfth grade. But it's sad.
The statistics are the the majority of the kids have
experimented with some illegal drug at some time in high school,
which is hard, which is really hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Still what turns the child onto drugs? Is it peer pressure?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I think a lot of it is. I think a
lot of it is what's at home. I think a
lot of it is peer pressure. You know, For me,
it sort of was a natural factor coming from an
alcoholic household, being an alcoholic at a young age, My
next step was using drugs. I mean that was just
a hate to say it, but it was a natural
progression for what I was in. And I think that
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people who don't have that at home and don't have
that progression, that yes, it is peer pressure. I think
a lot of it is. Like that one child who
died who was fourteen here in Dallas, it really was
his first time he had ever used that kind of
drug that he had ever taken cheese.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What can a parent look for in a child if
they suspect the child taking drugs?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
You know, I always say, try, no matter how hard
it is sometimes to keep that communication open and try
to talk as much as possible to a child, because
even if you don't expect them to be using drugs,
you can at least know if their behaviors change, if
they change friends, if their grades start going down, if
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they start losing weight, mood swings, dizzyness, anything like that,
and if you are close enough you have an open
communication with your child, you will begin recognizing that there
could be something wrong, so you're able to catch it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
What can the schools do to crack down on drugs?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You know the schools at the school they are actually
doing a lot. They have every year they have Red
Ribbon Week in October. All the schools cross countries are
actually supposed to have it, and they educate the kids
during that week about drugs and alcohol. I personally think
it should be something that they're discussed more in health
class as they get older, so that they understand what
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happens exactly to their bodies, what can happen to when
they're using illegal drugs to their brain, you know all that.
I think all that should be discussed in health class
a lot more than it is psychology. They offer psychology
now in high school. It should be talked about there.
It Actually they're doing pretty good in Dallas about discussing
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more and more of you know, don't drive drunk, and
you know, explaining about what cheese is so if somebody
does encounter it, they understand not to not to use it.
So they're trying. They're also trying to educate the parents,
you know, after schools and things like that. That sadly,
a lot of parents don't go to the meeting, you know,
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they have the attitude that my kids not doing it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
So the ostriche syndrome.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, if you're head in the grand you don't have
to see anything. Then that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
When a child is is on drugs, how hard is
it to get them off?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
It varies. Each person's an individuals, so it completely varies.
But you know, if they are ready to quit using
and they realize that they have a problem, and they
admit it to themselves, then anything's possible. I've seen people
get clean and sober at a very young age. I
know a girl who got sober at sixteen years old
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and she's thirty years old now. She's still in recovery
support groups and speaks at a lot of different places.
So it's possible. You just have to know that, you know,
you are the one with the problem. You know, it's
not everybody else around you, it's you, and you have
to want it to get sober. And unless you have
that and the parent and the kid has that, the
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parents can't say anything to get them sober.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Do you think that drug laws are strict enough or
should they restrict her?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You know, it's difficult because you know they're doing the
best they can, but oh my god, they have a
lot to do. You know, they're doing the best they can,
but you know, they're pretty strict right now. But you know,
it's so much of the drugs are coming in illegally
from Mexico in the different countries and everything. I would
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just wish that they'd be able to stop stop it
more in the in the big bulks, because it is
coming in in big bulks, and it's just not happening
right now. Something's missing, And of course I don't have
the answer for that.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I was watching a news item on CNN this morning
where just on the other side of the Mexican border,
they are finding marijuana grows in public parks, in public areas,
you know, and the and the rate that they did
that was on TV was they estimated forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it doesn't surprise me. They just
did that here in Dallas, down and around the area
where I teach. Actually, they found this huge field down
there out in the middle of nowhere, that was completely
you know, all pop plants that were being cultivated, and
it was the same situation, millions of dollars, you know,
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but it was out the middle of nowhere and nobody
somebody you know, narked them out and they got caught,
so they got mad and.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Told on them.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
There's always been the discussion about whether or not they
should legalizes marijuana. What's your stance on that.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
You know, it's it's a rough one because being an addict,
you know, I believe marijuana is a drug that is
depressing and does cause harm and and people are unmotivated
when they smoke it on a regular basis, and that
(34:51):
just becomes part of their life. So you know, I
do think it should be illegal. But at the same time,
so many people are using it that you know, maybe
it should be taxed, you know. I mean, there's I
see both sides. It's a difficult it's a difficult choice there.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Now. I understand that teens are getting a buzz from
everyday household products these days.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yes, this is scary because you talk about something parents
just would never expect. Okay, they're they're getting high off
just things laying around the house, like pledge furniture polish.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You can get high off.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Pledge, yes, anything like that. That's a sprayy odorant. They
actually inhale the fumes by putting the bag over their
head and putting it in there, and then the fumes,
the toxic fumes. They're getting high from mm hmm. And
it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I wonder my wife likes dusting so much.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Well, you know, if you find a bunch of pledge
later on into the kid's room, I doubt if they're cleaning. Okay,
that might be a hint there.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
What else can parents look for as far as household
does solve one of the.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Worst things right now, that is just catching on. As
a matter of fact, the kids at school had been
talking about this, the dust off. I don't know if
you're familiar with dust offs, but they come in cans
and then you attach a little straw and it's for
your computers.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It like dust off your computers.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
It's fraisal air dust off your computers. While that has
like a free on in it, right, and it's it's
some sort of a you know, coolant, And the kids
think it's like just compressed air, so they're inhaling it
through the straw and it is freezing their lungs and
they're dying instantly from it. I mean, they're found with
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the straws in their mouth and their eyes open. It's
the saddest thing. And they, as I said, they think
it's it's compressed there and that it's not a problem.
And yeah, and you know, I went to the store
the other day and was looking for a can and
found that they had the kids had opened all the
can and store out all right, stand by them, Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
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loved back to Life. That's www dot loved back to
life dot com. First of all, Amy, thank you very
much for joining us. It's been an enlightening.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Powers great thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And you've got to tell me about your motorcycle therapy.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Well, I started riding motorcycles when I first got sober.
So I started riding when I was about twenty five
and I'm forty five now and I ride all the time.
I have a hot pink motorcycle and it's got pink
led lights so it glows hot pink at night, and
I ride all the time with a group of sober people.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
What kind of bite do you have.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's a Honda that's been customized.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Wow. Good for you. Now, Now, what are some of
the program support groups and information that parents and kids
who who want to kick the habit can actually go to.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
The best places to do is you can go on
the Internet, or you can look in your Yellow Pages
and you can look for groups that anything twelve Step
related is what I recommend. Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous. Now,
if you have a drug problem, you can still go
to AA. A lot of people don't realize that, Okay,
it's for both. Is for drug addicts and alcoholics than anything.
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If somebody has an overeating problem, they have overeaters Anonymous,
they have gamblers Anonymous, they have nicotine anonymous. Anything to
do with twelve step programs is what I highly recommend.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Why is the twelve step program so successful?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
You know, I think it's because people there have already
experienced what the person is going through when they're getting sober.
And even though I believe in therapists and I believe
in psychiatrists, I think they're very, very important, especially for
a lot of alcoholics, because so many of us suffer
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from other things. It's just me, it's depression. And I
was also a razor. I had a very serious problem
with anger, so I needed extra help. But the programs.
When you're around people who are going through the same
thing and can guide you in the right direction, it's
a completely different feeling. It makes you learn through them.
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I think it's definitely necessary.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Their experience is your best.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Teacher, absolutely, no question.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Amy. What other projects are you working on?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Well, right now, I'm going to be working for the
Association of Persons Affected by Addictions here in Dallas, and
I'm really excited because I'm going to start working for
them in the next month or so. And we do
we help a lot of the people who are in
the transitional stage. We work with a lot of the
homeless people, getting them into housing recoveries they have. We
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have ged programs educating the community on alcoholism drug abuse.
So I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Amy. I want to thank you very much for joining
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don't hesitate to contact us.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
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