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Dr. Richard Ruhling was board-certified in internal medicine and had training in cardiology before teaching at Loma Linda University as Assistant Professor of Health Science, 1974-78. He has a Master's Degree in Public Health. After leaving the university, he developed Total Health Seminar designed to help people reverse cardiovascular disease with diet and exercise. In recent years he has authored books available on Amazon.com "Why You Shouldn't Ask Your Doctor," "America in Prophecy" and an ebook, "The Fall of America" available on his website, http://RichardRuhling.com covering topics of current events, Bible prophecy and patriotism.


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My guest this hour is doctor Richard Ruling, and we're

(01:54):
gonna be talking about why we're only a natural disaster
away from Marshall Law. Now the end of America as
we know it is closer than you think. Thanks to
the executive order that President Obama signed recently, the President
and his cabinet now have the authority to seize all
domestic resources, including food, water, energy, and transportation, even if

(02:19):
not at war. The government can forcibly draft Americans into
the military or detain anyone without trial if they are
perceived as undermining the government. Doctor Richard Ruling as my
guest this hour. He was a Board certified internal medicine
and had training in cardiology before teaching at Loma Linda
University as an assistant professor of Health Science nineteen seventy

(02:42):
four to nineteen seventy eight. He has a master's degree
in public health. After leaving the university, he developed Total
Health seminar designed to help people reverse cardiovascular disease with
diet and exercise. In recent years, he has authored books
available on Amazon dty entitled You Shouldn't Ask Your Doctor.

(03:03):
He also published and authored America in Prophecy and an ebook,
The Fall of America, which is available on his website
Richard Ruling dot com, covering the topics of current events,
Bible prophecy, and patriotism. Joining me now is doctor Richard
Ruling and Doctor Ruling. Welcome to the x own, sir.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
Thank you, good to be with you. Rob of great introduction.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Thank you, sir. Tell us a little bit about your
medical background before we get into the rest of the interview.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Well after my medical degree and internship service time, I
had an opportunity to go to Africa. Friend said, you'll
do more good in Africa if you take some public health.
I went back and during that year of public health
the opportunity did not materialize that I was encouraged to
take internal medicine CARDIOFT and come back and teach, which
I did. The dean liked me, and I had a

(03:54):
valuable experience while I was at Lomalinda.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
What was that experience.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
I went to some cardiology meetings American College of Cardiology
in Anaheim, and I heard a man by the name
of Prittican speak Nathan Pritikin, and he was showing how
that eighty five percent of people got off of their
blood pressure medicine on a diet and exercise program. And
of course I'd prescribed many, many pills and drugs for

(04:23):
blood pressure, but eighty five percent of people off with
drugs without pills and then I went visited center and
invited him to speak at Lommelinda, and I could see
that people at his center were not only just blood
pressure but art disease, were reversing it. Since then, Dean Rangish,
cardiologists in California, has done the same thing Critikin did.

(04:43):
It looked that as a cardiologist he could get better credibility,
and so he had the cover story of the US
News and World Report in August sixth of nineteen ninety
and how to reverse heart disease was the title of
that article. It's the same information that Critican had in
the seventies. But it's sad to say the media just
fight it because the big establishments fight it, and the

(05:06):
big pharma fights it, you know. And the latest thing
on big Farma is that the statin drugs have contributed
to probably about sixty thousand new cases of diabetes type two,
you know, the adult onset type of diabetes. The statins
can do that. So how many people are taking statins

(05:26):
millions of perscriptions in this country?

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Where is the moment we needed the most?

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You kick up the leaves and the magic is lost.

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Tell me your buscass feed to gray, Tell me.

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Your passions gone and I don't need no care.

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If BA can smile with the comy. Tell me your
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Speaker 3 (07:26):
And I don't need no chair because you had a
bad day.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
You tell your one down the sad song and welcome
back everyone, Doctor Richard Ruling is our guest. His website
is Richard Ruling dot com and Ruling is spelled ru
h l I n G. Tell me, doctor, how did
you go from medicine to writing about you know, martial law,
to uh to prophecies.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
Well, it was a transition that was gradually. I left Lolinda,
And first of all, my revelation was that while teaching
at lomal And I developed headaches. To a neurologist who
taught medical students, ask him if anything I could eat
or drink would be the cost headaches. He said that
would be very rare for my type of headache, and

(08:15):
I learned he didn't know what he was talking about.
I went into practice with a group of physicians, one
an allergists, and people drove hundreds of miles to see him.
So I asked him one day, how many people with
headaches can he help?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (08:24):
About ninety percent, he sent. So he tested me, and
I would not have believed the foods that I ate
that caused headaches because it's not an immediate reaction. You
don't eat the food and get a headache. It's kind
of on withdrawal, just like people who smoke. And we
all know the tobaccos of poison. But they don't get
sick when they smoke. They get sick when they try
to quit on withdrawal. And that's the way food allergies

(08:45):
and tolerance works to the food that you've become allergic to.
And so my headaches were that way. And when I
dropped the foods out more of a problem. I had
executives tell me that sugar bothered their joints. I had
another executive tell me cheese bothered the joints. Another executive
tell me meet bothers joints. People don't figure out though
for the most part, they will just take the pills.
But these executives were smart people and had done it.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
So what are you saying, sir, that the food that
we're eating today is causing us to be sick.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Many cases that can be There are a lot of
foods are refined, there's chemicals added, et cetera. And we
can if people have a condition for which the doctor
doesn't know the cause, think of what we put into
our mouth. Because when we were born, we were normal,
didn't have those problems, and over the years we have abuse.
And I was doing that with wheat tastries passes. Love
the stuff, but I have become toxic to wheat, et cetera.

(09:38):
And that was the you asked me how we got
from medical and teaching at Lo Malinda to some of
the other stuff. And I first want a health, alternative health,
and there's real answers there, but the big FDA is
trying to close even vitamins down, et cetera. This country
is not free, the media is not free. I just
appreciate what you're doing, but by and large, if people

(10:01):
watching mainstream stuff, they don't get it. And so it
was a gradual process. I do see the Bible as
big answers, and so my interests in Bible brought me
to see some things that fit very well with what
we see happening in our.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Country outside of health. Sir, what's the most important discovery
that you've made?

Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well overall, I would say, just what the meaning of words?
When I was taking pathology as a sophomore medical student,
they said Anderson is the Bible. They went that he
was the most authoritative source on pathology. And we have
the word biblioteca, which is a Spanish word for life. Well,

(10:43):
biblio is a reference to Bible. Bible is a book
of actually sixty six books. But I'm seeing that the
Bible is where it's really at, and I see the
answers fitting today's problems more than what you get off
of the evening news, you know. And it's ahead of
time for the most part. And I could give an
example or two, sure don't know on the timing. One example,

(11:07):
we see a lot of stuff in the Middle East,
the war with radical Muslims. We think they bombed our
World Trade Center, which, by the way, not sure clearly
some of that has something to do. But if you
go to YouTube and you type in World Trade Center
Building seven or something like that, there's a lot of
unanswered questions that we really the government has not been

(11:32):
forced right, and the media didn't give it to us
straight either, And.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
How do we how do we know that? How do
we and how do we know that the media didn't
give it to a straight like you know, it's easy
to blame the media for a lot of things. And
yet you, sir, have contacted the media in order to
promote your books.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Well, I didn't contact you, You contacted me. Alternate media
is good. I think that radio talk is good and
is open to an opinion, sir.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
I just like to I just like to get this straight.
You advertised in a publication that goes out to every
major media source in the United States and Canada. Right, So,
if you're dead against the if you're against the media, sir,
why would you go that route?

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Well, I would say that I'm looking for alternatives or
interested in something that's a little different than what you
hear usually. And I believe that even as the Bible
says in the mouth of two or three witnesses, something
is established. But a lot of times you get the
same story, the same story, and there's a lockout on
certain types of information. And I do see when you say,

(12:38):
how do I know about World Trade Center? I was
in the past twenty four hours looked at something. If
you go to YouTube in stubble buying, stubble buying, it's
like stubble but then e at the end he was
then attorney general, I mean not attorney general, but colonel
and general of an intelligence for the United States and
the Pentagon. And you could listen to his statement. He's

(12:59):
the first one up on YouTube if you type in
his name and listen to his comments on nine to eleven.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
All Right, sir, But you don't have any first hand
You don't have any first hand information to substantiate that
claim other than watching it on YouTube. Other than watching
it on YouTube.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
But if you, if you let me give you something
that I do have a little background on, if I could, okay,
we uh, if you were watching the Branch Davidians, you
saw a and the Washington Post and the Alien Times
both had information about Cus tear gas being flammable that

(13:40):
was injected into the building. And I saw with my
own eyes on a YouTube a tank backing away with
smoke coming from its flame throwing nozzle. And so those
people were basically murdered, and those records were stored in
Oklahoma City. And how convenient two years later that the records,
so that no prosecution could be done, were blown into
smiths with one hundred and seventy people besides, and patriot

(14:04):
experts and demolition visited the scene, found explosive columns down
underneath the building, or the whole building would have come down.
There was parts of the building across the street behind
the truck bomb in front. So how did the truck
bomb do? That is the big questions that there was
more than one explosive on caught on seismograph. But bottom line,

(14:27):
it's all been kind of swept under the carpet, and
Clinton used it as an opportunity to get funding millions
of dollars for FEMA anti terrorism. When the terrorism is
guess where it's coming from. We don't know, But FEMA
was in New York City for nine to eleven before
the event happened. Tell me, how do you know, Glenn?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Tell me doctor? Why are you against the government.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
I'm I'm not against good government.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Why are you against a lot of.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Things are happening that make us wonder what where is
the is the government app you know?

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Is it possible, sir, that the perpetrators of these acts
are actually misguiding people like yourself through the biggest septic
tank that has ever been created, called the Internet, to
put the blame on the government and keep suspicion away
from themselves.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
Well you will have to consider that possibility. I guess
it all depends on who we're listening to. I've listened
to Stubblebuyd, who is a colonel and a general of intelligence,
and I'm reflecting some of the things he said, which
I already believed from other testimonies, he said he didn't.
In intelligence, you don't just believe one witness. You get

(15:38):
several facts before you act ahead of time. And I
think I'm fitting together several perspectives, part of which was
my own witness and exposure to people who are patriotic
in nature patriotic.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Or are they so paranoid that anything that they can't
understand in their own feebleness has to be a conspiracy.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Well, some of what they used to say with conspiracy
is now out in the open, the idea of the
builder Burgers, and you know now they have meetings that
you can't hide it anymore. And it was in the papers,
but not a lot. It's a secret group. You can
go to Wikipedia and read about builder Burgers. It's a
group of one hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty people.

(16:24):
One third of them are government leaders and those two
thirds are financiers, rich men. And when they drive into
Chantilly the hotel, they hide their faces so that nobody
can see who's there.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, isn't it possible because of all the public scrutiny
and the public through the Internet has turned everyone into
a member of the paparazzi. For goodness sake, nobody has
privacy any more thanks to the Internet and the morons
who believe it more than they do the Bible.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Well, you know, there's a wide range of how to
look at the information, and you can put it together
more than one way. I'm just saying, I'm seeing if
you give me a chance, I would say that early
Americans understood Revelation thirteen as the first being beast being

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the papacy the old world, or that they fled and
came to this country. Second beast, a lamb like beast
represent America. Some people don't know whether America is in
prophecy or in the Bible or not, but it's lam
like the lamb is a symbol of Christ, peaceful, gentle, etc.
But this lamb like beast suddenly speaks like a dragon

(17:32):
and causes fire to come down from heaven, fire being
nuclear maybe Hiroshima Nagasaki and speaking like a dragon. In
the legislation that we're now making, whereas you yourself referred
to the beginning of the program to the NDAA, where
we can take our own citizens and without trial, etc.
Put them in jail and without due process. You know,

(17:54):
if there perceived to be an enemy of the state,
and some of what I'm saying here could not be.
I couldn't speak out against Obama at a rally where
the Secret Services because I could be put in jail
for a year as a felony. And that's, you know,
huge trouble for free speech, etc. Things are changing rapidly

(18:14):
in America, and I see that picture fitting Revelation thirteen
very well.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Free speech is one thing. Blatant libelous slander is a
totally different thing. And I think that a lot of
people take free speech to the outer limits.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
I really do.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
I think that, you know, there's a line to be drawn,
and if people don't want to draw that line on
their own, then somebody has to draw it for them.
We'll be back on the other side of this commercial
break as the act continues.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Don't go away.

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Follow I love and like a clown. We need this
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Speaker 5 (21:23):
Explanation. Doctor Richard Ruling is our guest. His website is
Richard Ruling dot com and Ruling is belled r U
H l I n G.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Doctor.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
You say that FEMA has six hundred camps that are
being activated to handle detainees. You you point at the
New World Order as being behind this. How can FEMA
get away with this?

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Well, actually the camps were originated back in the eighties
under Reagan as Rex eighty four, and they were originally
intended to be for illegal aliens that things of. We
got many illegal aliens in our country now it could
easily be for something else. And you citing the NDAA
which allows them to take citizens which UH. And some

(22:11):
of the talk under homeland security documents would include gun
rights activists, pro life activists, constitutional people, some returning veterans,
some people like myself and believing in Bible prophecy as
enemies of the new World order, and potential legal UH.
The word is domestic terrorists. Potentially UH could be detained, interrogated,

(22:34):
maybe in for re education. Don't know, but really not
wanting to go there to find out. So I would
just say a lot of things are hard to understand
right now, but we could be getting I'm seeing in
Matthew twenty four Christ's words when he said, when you
see the abomination of desolation, to flee to the hills.

(22:55):
The early believers understood that was military force. And when
and when Rome came in sixty six AD, the Christians
got out of there and they were spared a horrible
siege that the Jews experienced a few years later by Titus.
I believe that a single, big, huge event could usher
in martial law and be the military force that Christ

(23:16):
was referring to. That people should not expose themselves to
but go to the hills, get out in the country,
go further out. I'm living in a rural area of
Arizona and not worried about it right now, but I
will be an interested observer of what's coming, because I
think things are coming to this country and we're in

(23:38):
for some heavy, difficult times.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
You say you believe the government is capable of causing
earthquakes and hurricanes to initiate a state of emergency as
the basis for martial laws suspending your constitutional rights. How
was the government going to cause an earthquake?

Speaker 7 (23:54):
I was in a dental office after nineteen ninety five.
The September issue is about the title of the cover
story was killer storms are Coming, and I saw pictures
of microwave towers in Alaska. There's acres of them. It
was called a little known Pentagon project, and the scientists
reporting on it said that this is potential global vandalism

(24:15):
and that we open discussion. But there was no open
discussion about what they were doing in their plans. And
since then we have had killer storms and we've seen
twenty eleven was a record year for costs for insurance
companies on hurricanes, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
But what about global warming? Doesn't global warming play into
this as well, isn't it possible that it has nothing
to do with the Heart Project that are that is
a massive antenna array up in Alaska, and that could
actually have something to do with global warming, the havoc
that we are causing on this planet ourselves, each and

(24:50):
every one of us who drive a car.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
As a matter of fact, well, quite possibly that there's
a factor in that. And of course that's been debated
and some people have debunked it, and I'm really on
the cutting edge of whether it is or isn't. But
I do know that what I'm describing to you has
been witnessed by even Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota,
who went up to Alaska and took pictures and you

(25:14):
can read some of his go to YouTube.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Yeah, Esse, Jesse.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Jesse's a loose canon, Like, you know, how the hell
you ever got to be a governor? God only knows,
But you know, I wouldn't trust that guy with a
two dollars bill in his pocket.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Well, but in the mouth of two or three witnesses,
you get several who have and I've seen photographs of
the place before I ever saw Jesse Ventura. He's now
living in Mexico, and he must know something that is
potentially dangerous for.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
See either that or you know, like, harp is no secret.
I hate to be the bearer bad news to all
you conspiracy nuts out there, but harp is not a secret.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
That's right. You can go to YouTube, type in h
A A r P, and everybody can make up their
own mind as to whether there's something strange and different
about what's happening.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
You know, YouTube bought for the majority of cases, it
is not real. It's consistent of a bunch of yahoos
who have nothing better to do with their time than
to make up their videos, put them up there and
give themselves a little five or six minutes worth of glory.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Except I didn't see this in a magazine Popular Science,
September issue nineteen ninety five, long before YouTube.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Like I was saying, sir, going back that far, harp
was not a secret. It's only since the advent of
the YouTube and the other the other people that are
posting garbage on the Internet, where all this information is
being misconstrued. And you know what, there's a lot of
fear mongering out there.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Okay, but there are scientists, and I've seen the statement
of scientists more than one who say, and by the way,
double bye. Also, he has made a statement about Japan
being man made. Okay, so he's the head of intelligence
for the CIA back some couple of decades back. But yeah,
I believe it.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Japan.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
You want to believe that counts.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Japan being men made? What did you mean by that?

Speaker 7 (27:06):
The earthquake? If you go to YouTube and you think
it's baloney, but Benjamin Fulford f U L F O
r D. Type in his name along with Japan and
watch his video. He's giving testimony. He asked the Japanese
why they were going to go along with the European
oligarchs on the financial question and merging their money, and

(27:27):
they said, well, we were threatened with an earthquake machine.
That was his testimony. He couldn't believe it, but because
he went public, they were two days later they were
hit with an earthquake on their Fukusima place, you know.
And so it was very interesting the timing of his
discussion with him.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
You say the November presidential election may never take place.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
I think when the heat got hot for Clinton, the
uss cole blew up, you know, over Monica Lewinsky. And
believe that this administration is not stupid, and if things
don't look good, we could be into martial law, which
will take us beyond those elections and no elections need
be done. I say that's the possibility. I don't say

(28:15):
it will, but I personally wonder about if it does.
You've heard it first here, maybe you know.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I'd just like to point out something here that there
are a lot of good videos on YouTube by a
lot of credible people. So I didn't mean to throw
the credible in with the wackos that are out there.
I just wanted to make that clear. It's just like
anyone with ten bucks can buy out the a main name.
They can get their website posted for free if they

(28:45):
want all the advertising crap on it. That doesn't mean
it's real exzonation. There's a lot of deceit. There's a
lot of turmoil being caused by the people who write
on the Internet and the people who self publish. It's
a lot of turmoil. It's a lot of garbage, and
you've got to be very careful. One thing the Internet
doesn't have that that makes it the biggest cesspool in

(29:10):
the world, is the lack of credible journalism on it. Anyway,
that's that's just my opinion. So why do you think
the United States is in such bad, bad condition? And
is it because of the leadership? Is it because of
the elected officials?

Speaker 7 (29:31):
I think personally that John F. Kennedy was a great man,
and he made a few unfortunate statements early so that
they knew what he was going to do to get
rid of the IRS, et cetera federal reserve, and maybe
I should say, and they got him. And I think
every president since then has been threatened if they got
out a line, and they tow the line. I believe

(29:53):
that we have been steadily since Reagan appointed an ambassador
to the Vatican, we've been moving toward global government. And
and in Revelation seventeen, you see a picture prophetic picture
of a woman in Bible prophecy depicted as a church,
but she's sitting on seven hills, Rome being known as
a city of seven hills, and it says, with whom

(30:15):
the kings of the Earth have committed fornication is a
church involved with politics. She's decked with gold and jewel
and precious stones. He's a wealthy church, it says, drunken
with the blood of saints. Yes, it's been a persecuting
church historically. And she's writing this beast of New World Order.
It was the beast that in Revelation thirteen, the lamb
like beast makes an image or look alike to the

(30:37):
previous old world order. We're making new world order, and
then the pope is going to be ultimately in charge
as a moral person, etc. And you have to look
at history to believe what's really going to be coming about.
But the Bible describes it as a bad thing basically,
And I think that's the big picture. I believe we're
almost there because and I'll give you the real clincher

(30:59):
in this that in Isaiah forty six to ten, God
says he declares the end from the beginning. Well, in
the Book of Beginnings, Abraham is tested over his willingness
to sacrifice his son Isaac. The Muslims believe it was Ishmael,
so which is the true Holy book, we don't know.
But in Daniel eight there is a interesting Daniel let

(31:23):
me back up. Ishmael or Isaac were spared by the
sacrifice of a ram. They found a ram in the thicket.
But in Daniel eight a ram is smacked by a
goat flying from the west. And historically it says there
in the Bible Daniel eight, verse twenty, that the horns
are the kings of Media and Persia. But today there
are Iraq and Iran, and so we are. And Gabriel

(31:46):
says this vision is at the time of the end.
So a lot of times previous scholars have thought this
was about Alexander the Great and the Means and Persians historically.
But I'm seeing that the Bible has a double application
once also for the end. And we've broken the horn
of Iraq. We're going to do it for Iran. It
will be a bigger deal, as implied by the Bible

(32:06):
and danuely. But this is the time of the end,
and lots of things are happening, and so is the
Book of Revelation. For the time of the end, things
are not going to go on and on and on.
I personally don't think that the economy is going to
heal and get great. I think we are in woes,
or as it says in James five.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
The rich don't hold on here, hold on, let's just
hold it slow down, you know, I don't mind, right, Okay,
it's great to quote the Bible. It's really great. Hats
off to you for doing that. But the Bible is
only as good as the perception of the person who
reads it. If you go in with a tainted mind,
you'll come out with a tainted tale.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Probably so so what you're getting with a tint of mind.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
So what you're doing is you're putting your own interpretation,
based on your own personal beliefs, onto what you're reading.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
For twenty five years, I have gone to Bible conferences,
ceremonar a seeking to learn, and so it's not an
effort to make it into any one thing. But I've
submitted myself to evidence and looked at it, and I
believe the picture that I'm seeing that has been explained
to me makes good sense, and it fits with history,
It fits with what we see happening.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Today in your eyes and in the eyes of the
people who taught you or explained it to you. But
that doesn't mean everyone else who reads the Bible sees
it the same way you do. I've had I've had
hundreds of people on the show over the last twenty
years who put a positive spin on everything in the Bible,
including in the Book of Revelations. And I get very weary,
and I get very suspicious of people who put negative

(33:39):
spins on everything.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Well, I wouldn't say it's negative. It's just an actual
reality of it.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
I don't in whose eyes?

Speaker 5 (33:47):
In whose eyes is it real?

Speaker 7 (33:50):
It should be in our eyes if we are looking
at it. We should believe the Bible as God's word
and study it for ourselves, because I think our life
does depend on it.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Wait a minute, We're supposed to put our entire faith
in a mythological character into a book that was written
hundreds of years ago when there was no knowledge as
we know it today, and take it for verbatim. Something's
wrong with this picture.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
Well, you know, the real debate might be then if
you think it's the book of mythological character, because I
see it quite different.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I see, but that is your that is your belief.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Well, and evolution is a belief also. They have not
proven anything. It started as a theory of evolution, And
just today I looked at a DVD that offers nine
different little animals that really refute evolution. They have things
that a certain woodpecker that had to have been uniquely
made with all of his adaptations, he couldn't have developed

(34:54):
this adaptation adaptation. He couldn't have survived till he'd had
all of these adaptations in an him to get his food.
It's all how you want to look at it. But
I see evidence and I've done. You know, we have
to decide for ourselves. But I think there's good evidence
if we you know, if the world exploded off the
Sun while we all have all nicely rounded objects, not

(35:17):
jagged stuff, And how does this Earth happen to be
so different from every other barren thing circling our sun?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Oh wait a minute, hold out here, hold on here.
I must have I must have gone to different astronomy
courses than you did, because I remember seeing NASA footage
from the robots that are on the Mars, and you know,
there's some pretty jagged there's some pretty jagged mountains there,
and the Moon certainly has jagged craters. So who's right

(35:47):
you are, NASA?

Speaker 7 (35:49):
But if there was an explosion on the Sun, wouldn't
you expect would you expect them all to be rounded
spheres as they look at it through a telescope from here?
The moon is so round every other for you know,
you see the pictures in the folks, Why did they
all these round objects come from the sun? And how
did they come to? Uh?

Speaker 5 (36:08):
All right, you know we've got to take a commercial break.
We'll be back in a couple of minutes.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Don't away.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
No, I have one I'll have blossomed. There is one
love I should never have run. She was a girl
and a million my friends. I should have known.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
She would win.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Indeed, books it down. Who all the sound of speech? Guns?

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Great?

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Are you hanging another one?

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Ever?

Speaker 9 (37:14):
We go?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
This one here certainly goes onto the order of ex zone.
Woo woos, my god, what a negative guy. Doctor Richard
Ruling was my guest Craig during the commercial break, decided
enough so the good doctor has left the building. You

(37:35):
know here he said that he's against the media. This, that,
and the other. Thing the media is is basically bad.
You know we we we only tell one side of
the story or controlled by the major corporations. And yet
he put his his, his entire pitch into a very
well known and well respected publication that goes out to

(37:58):
all talk show hosts and all radio TV stations, and
the pitches Expert reveals why we're only a natural disaster
away from martial law. The end of America as we
know it is closer than you think. Thanks to the
executive order that President Obama signed recently, the President and
his cabinet now have the authority to seize all domestic resources,

(38:18):
including food, water, energy, and transportation, even though if not
at war. The government can forcibly draft Americans into the
military or detain anyone without trial if they are perceived
as undermining the government.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Hm.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Well, I know he thinks that's a bad thing, but
you know what, I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 9 (38:38):
I really do.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
You know, freedom of speech, freedom of this, freedom of
that has been gone and taken beyond the limits, and
people who exceed those limits have none to blame but themselves.
I'm sorry. All you have to keep on doing is
remembering that it's for the people, by the people. And

(39:06):
if you're not satisfied with the way your government is run,
you still have the ability to vote, You still have
the ability to make changes. Don't go on the internet,
get on your little virtual box and start praising and
teaching and using the Bible as you're crutch and using
the Bible as your source of information. Get the facts.

(39:31):
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of
the problem. And if you just want to stay in
your little virtual world, write your virtual little ebooks, sell
books on Amazon because you can't get a credible publisher
to publish anything that's right, because it's crap.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
That's up to you.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
However, don't take other people down with you. You've got
the right to free speech, You've got the right to
do a lot of great things that other countries don't have.
And yet it's these people who use those very rights
against the government that well, you know what gives you

(40:08):
a better life than a lot of places on this planet.
That's the fact. So without ado, that's why another one
bit the dust here on the X Zone Radio show.
Send me your comments x owner at x on Radio
tv dot com. Hey, you don't have to agree with me,
but when it comes to people stepping on people, fear mongering,

(40:31):
bad talking, and you know, criticizing without doing anything about
it besides watching YouTube, Oh my god, it's got to
be real. It was on YouTube or I saw it
in the internet. Come on, grow up, get real. My
name is Rob McConnell. This is the x O one,
a place where people dare to believe and dare to
be heard and you know what, I've got the right

(40:53):
to dare and I've got the right to believe as well.
I'll be back on the other side of this commercial
break with the News at six and a half minutes past.
As the exon continues from our studios in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada,
don't away another one by

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Another one, hmmm.
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