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November 30, 2025 55 mins
Linda Hack is a first-time author spending her summers in Prescott Valley, Arizona, and winters in Chokoloskee, Florida. Linda grew up in San Diego, California, and spent most of her early life in various parts of the country, including New York, Montana and Florida. Linda is married and is a mother of three and grandmother of ten. Linda is in the early stages of writing her second book - a fictional story about twins separated as toddlers, both gender confused, their reunion, conflicts suffered, two generations of secrets and the emotional ups and downs. - http://channeling911.wordpress.com/


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the days following the events of nine to eleven, Linda
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pick up a pencil and draw. Linda's images were not
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spirits surrounding the nine to eleven attacks. This unpredictable and
explainable urge to draw lasted for nine months. It's believed

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by Linda that her early, more abstract drawings depict man's
earthly sins against God's word. Joining me now is Linda
lee Heck and Linda Welcome to the X Zone.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Well, thank you, Rob, I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Linda.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
What was it like when you first picked up that
pencil and started drawing and you basically had no control
of what you were drawing? How did that feel?

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well, that's correct, Rob, what happened to me was my
husband and myself and a guest. We're all sitting and
watching the horrific events on the news broadcasts, and before me,
lay just depends on paper that happened to be there
on the coffee table, and his urge just started overwhelming
me to pick up this paper and pencil, and I

(06:57):
kept fighting with my psyche without speaking or at all,
and going, why do I want to pick that up?
I don't want to write anything, and the urge just
kept getting stronger and kept getting stronger, and kept getting stronger,
and finally I gave into the urge and I picked
it up and started making lines on the paper. And

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I was turning the paper with one hand while making
lines with the other hand, and then suddenly, I don't
know how long that took, all concept of time was gone.
I really didn't really think anything about my surroundings at
that time. And then it stopped and I looked down
and there was this image, and I was rather shocked

(07:40):
by the image. I didn't know what it meant. I
didn't know why I drew it. I'd never drawn anything
in my life before, so I was just left baffled
and shocked. And my husband walked over and said what
were you doing? And he looked at it and he said, thinking,
what is this? And I said, I don't know, Honey,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Prior to this experience, Linda, had you had any any
psychic impressions that you're aware of?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
No? No, maybe good strong intuition as a woman. Yeah,
but as far as any other psychic abilities, now none
at all.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
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Speaker 1 (13:01):
Where were you when.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
The world stopped turning?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's said over then.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Out in the.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yard, UI up the chill, working on some stage.

Speaker 8 (13:16):
Did you stand there and show the.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Side of the back?

Speaker 8 (13:20):
Black smoke?

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Oh my?

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Did you? The northeast corner exploded in the most incredible explosion.
Flames are flying out of the building. There are five
to ten story high now black building smoke, the building corner,
the whole entire corner is gone.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Both World Trade Center buildings in New York City right
now heaps of rubble. At nine o'clock this morning, a
plane crashed into one of the towers of the World
Trade Center in Lower Manhattan, I heard the noise that
was in my office and they heard the guy screaming,
So I ran out and everybody.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Was saying, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Explanation. As everyone knows, this is the tenth anniversary of
that horrific day, going back in time to September the eleventh,
two thousand and one. And I don't believe there is
anyone listening to this broadcast around the world who cannot
remember where they were and what they were doing when
they heard the news about the attacks on America and

(14:21):
the attack on the world wide democratic way of living.
The world was under attack, however, they targeted the United
States of America. Joining me this hour is Linda Lee
Heck and she is the author of a book that's
entitled The Channeling of September eleventh, two thousand and one.
Her website is www dot The Channeling of nine to

(14:44):
one one dot com. How long did you draw for Linda, Well.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
We began drawing, or I began drawing. I believe it
was two days after the events, and I continue drawing
compulsively for the next maybe four or five months. Then
it was a little bit more under my control that
I could kind of hush the urge if it was

(15:16):
an inconvenient time for me that I did continue drawing
for about nine months.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
My goodness, What were some of the drawings that you drew?
What did they look like?

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Well, all of those are available, not all of them,
but some of them are available on my website. But
the very first drawing, which was really a very shocking drawing,
it kind of depicts an image of what one would
maybe call a devil. It has four horns on its
head or three horns on an ear one or the other.

(15:50):
One side of the body has, however, an angelic wing
attached to it, and the other side does not. In
the center of the belly, which I came to learn later,
was a sign, a five star sign with a circle
around it for some reason. And we learned later when

(16:14):
I had taken them to an artist in town to
look at them, that that symbol is a symbol that's
commonly used in the Wicko religion. Yes, and I guess
there's two different ways that a pinnacle. One is with
stars two points up and the other one's with it

(16:34):
three points up. In my case, I believe we have
here three points up and two down. And how that
kind of falls in I'm not quite sure, but and
it has these are just rough lines. It has not
a very pretty smile on its face. Its eyes are there,

(16:55):
but not real, real distinct. That was the third first
one that I drew, and that was drawn on the
fifteenth of September.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
How many drawings in total have you done pertaining to
nine one one?

Speaker 6 (17:09):
We have? I have eighty eighty eighty two somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Now. Your book is entitled The Channeling of September eleventh,
two thousand and one. Who do you think or who
do you believe that you were channeling?

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, you know, the night of the event that that happened.
I went to bed that night and I said a
prayer to my great grandmother, who at that time in
my mind was my guardian angel. I have come since
to learn that that's not possible, but at that time
I asked her.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well, wait a second, let go let's go back here
for a sec Why is that impossible?

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Well, generally a guardian angel is somebody who has never
lived in a human body. There are spirits who says
in a spirit world, says this is just different research
that I have done and opinions of different people, So
that kind of led me to believe that she's more
of a spirit guide than a guardian angel. A spirit

(18:10):
guide is somebody who has lived in human body, and
a guardian angel is somebody that chooses you to watch
over you while you're here on earth, awaiting you for you.
Eventually you'll pass over and hopefully become somebody's guardian spirit.
So that's where I got the idea. But I said
the prayer to her that night, and I asked her

(18:34):
if the events of nine to eleven was the beginning
of the revelations told in the Bible. And I didn't
really think too much more about it after that. Even
when I started drawing, I didn't think about the prayer.
It wasn't so long, long, long time after that that

(18:55):
I even thought about the prayer that I had lifted up.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
At that time.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
And it was at that time when I started wondering
where disability was coming from, because I had never drawn
anything before that, I began to question whether it was
coming from a dark or a lighte force.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Now, prior to this automatic hand writing, as it's known,
had you been interested in the paranormal angels? Was there
anything that had happened to you that had triggered this interest.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
I don't think anything in particular now had happened to me.
I had had a couple of experiences where I'm pretty
sure it was my guardian angels looking out for me
that have protected me from harm that I believed was
coming from them. But outside of that, that was about
as far as my imagination I had allowed it to

(19:59):
stretch at that point.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
What was your incentive for releasing your eighty pictures in
a book?

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Well, we've carried them around with us, my husband and
I for the last eight and a half nine years,
and we had mentioned many times I couldn't understand. I
would look at the artwork and I would get it
rob and I would go, my god, I can't believe
I've drawn these because I never could draw anything. In fact,
when my children were little, I tried to draw a

(20:27):
pin the tail on the donkey for my kids and
my daughter said, give up, Mom, let me do it.
That's how bad my drawing was. So when I would
look at my pictures that I had drawn, I was
wondering always why did I draw them? Who are they four?
And where did this talent come from? And why did
it leave? So my husband and I had talked often

(20:48):
about the possibility of maybe putting them in a book,
and I began to get the feeling that they weren't
just for me, they were for others. And shortly after
my father died two years ago, I took my mother
to a medium in the area, hoping that maybe she
could get a message from my father. Her caretaker was

(21:08):
very very much involved with that kind of stuff, and
she encouraged us to go. And it was at that
meeting that the woman Barbara Saint John, who was the medium.
After the event was over with, called me to the
side and said, Linda, I have a message that you are.
You have a job to do, and I just kind
of looked at her, like, what do you mean I

(21:29):
have a job to do? And she goes, it has
something to do with writing. You need to go ahead
and do whatever it is you think you need to
do with writing, and I just kind of looked at
her and I said, hmm, okay. So that was kind
of my confirmation. When I left there, we came home,
my husband and I started talking about it again, and
that night we decided that yes, this was not just

(21:50):
meant for me to be carried around put in closets
wherever we go, not seen by anyone, and we wanted
to share it. And I thought, well, I share this
and even one person out there goes through my book
and finds any kind of peace or understanding, then it
was worth the expense and the time to put it together.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now now is this self published?

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yes? It is.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Did you try and get it published by a mainstream publisher?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
No?

Speaker 8 (22:19):
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
I didn't even go there.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (22:22):
I don't know. I think I felt that the book,
because it was a small book that probably any mainstream
publishers wouldn't end. I was also concerned with the timing
because I wanted the book out by the Champ anniversary.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I see, yeah, what do you think someone would gain
from looking at your drawings?

Speaker 6 (22:50):
Well, first of all, I think my story h is
an interesting story about how this all came about and
how it all ended. And I think that anybody who
is interested in different types of paranormal activity, or believes
in guardian angels, or believes in spirit guides or any

(23:11):
of those things would find this interesting and they might
might want to help me solve my own question, which
is left at the end of the book for them
to decide from the South themselves after reading my story
and looking at my drawings, whether this was a guided thing,
spirit guided how I came about doing this. I believe

(23:35):
in my heart that most likely I was channeling. I
was tanneling some spirit that had a story to tell,
and they told them in my drawings.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Don't you do you think that some people may look
at your book and say, all right, this is just
another way for somebody to make a fast couple of
books come the anniversary of nine to eleven.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Well, I think that that could be true, because there
are a lot of people out there that thin can
feel that way. My book is being the two proceeds
Wounded Warriors is going to dot org and Tuesday's Children
were two of the charities that we choose to receive
income from our book because they were both established after

(24:16):
the nine to eleven events and they helped the beneficiaries
of those that were lost in the attacks on nine
to eleven. So we've contributed one dollar to each charity
with each copy that sold, which just leaves me enough
money to really cover the cost of printing the books.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
All right, No, I understand that you started writing the
pictures on the fifteenth of September.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yes, the first picture was drawn.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
And when and when did it stop? What date did
it stop?

Speaker 6 (24:56):
I believe the last one I had on with in
the month of March.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
All right, stand by you and I have to take
our newsbreak at the bottom of the Amaxon Nation. Linda
lee Heck is our guest www dot the channeling of
nine one one dot com. That's www dot the channeling
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when disaster occurs around the, world we'll ask the people
if they want to donate to a disaster, fund and
each citizen can make the decision as to whether or
not it's a worthy. Cause number. Eleven The pledge Of
allegiance And Lord's prayer will be said every day at
school and every day In congress and in Both house
Of commons And senate Of canada number. Twelve the national

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anthem will be played at appropriate, ceremonies sporty, events, outings et.
Cetera attendees will be invited to take off their hats
while the national anthem is being played and or sung
my apology If i've offended or stepped on anybody's. Toes,
Nevertheless God bless THE, Usa God Bless. Canada, Sincerely Bill

(34:39):
Cosby presidential candidate twenty twelve one eight hundred and six
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(35:01):
dot htm and as it stands right, Now Bill cosby
is in the lead with ninety four one hundred and
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Eight jimmy McMillan has no. Votes Tom miller has, Won
Roy moore has. Won Michelle bachman has no. Votes Ron

(35:21):
paul has. Four Newt gingrich has twenty. Three Mitt romney
has three and listen to. This the runner up After
Bill cosby Is ALFRED. E newman From Mad. MAGAZINE i
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again that's exonews dot com forward Slash Bill Cosby cosby

(35:45):
For president one dot. Htm there you, go the voice
of the. PEOPLE i think he makes a lot of,
sense and unfortunately that's WHY i think he'll never become
president because it makes too much. Sense seems that as
long as you make no sense and you keep your
head in the sand with here butt up in the,
air you can become a politician these. Days bye, Lord
i'm looking at the stock market and Now jones is

(36:06):
down three hundred and twenty six point thirty five, points
double digit. Recession here we. Come our guest this hour
Ex ownation Is linda Lee heck and she is the
author Of The channeling of nine to one. One her
website is The channeling of nine one one dot. Com I'll.
Linda we talked a little bit About guardian angels and

(36:31):
when did you first believe or come to believe That
guardian angels are really, there that they're just not a
figment of people's. Imagination they're not just a myth or a,
folklore but they really do interact with people's.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Lives, WELL i THINK i really changed to that realization
a little bit later in. LIFE i was driving on
seventy five In, florida AND i was in the far
left hand. Lane everybody was traveling about eighty miles an,

(37:05):
hour and all of a, SUDDEN i heard somebody scream at,
me back, off back, off and it was just loud
and it was, vivid and SO i let my foot
off of the gas and backed, off and within SECONDS
i had to swerve into the medium WHILE i watched

(37:27):
the cars before me pile. Up and that was my
final confirmation, that, yes there's somebody out there watching out for.
Us AND i also had another incident earlier in life
WHERE i didn't listen to my guardian angel and one
of my children got hurt BECAUSE i didn't follow that

(37:48):
guardian angel saying to me THAT i needed to go
check on, them AND i didn't do it at the
TIME i should have done, it and my son ended
up getting. Hurt so two very very vivid incidents in
my life that has convinced me that somebody there between
the veil between this life and patch. Life somebody is

(38:13):
there watching over.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Us have you had the urge to draw since you
stopped drawing the nine to Eleven? Towers have you continued
drawing or? Painting have you taken up art as a
hobby as a way to express? Yourself and is your
book to help others or was it some sort of

(38:35):
therapy for.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
You you, know a lot of people think that it
was therapy for. ME i don't feel that it. Was
what happened to, me was you take a person who
had no drawing ability. Whatsoever maybe IF i had had
some ability AND i started doing, this it would make
that kind of sense that it was for my own

(38:56):
self to understand the. Ava BUT i had no drawing.
Ability in, fact during the period of time that this
was going, on my, husband who has always encouraged me
in anything That i've chosen to, do suggested THAT i
go take some art. Classes SO i, thought, well. Okay
SO i went to the art, classes and every assignment

(39:19):
THAT i was GIVEN i could not. Accomplish AND i
mean even drawing an ice cream cone showing, is you,
know the the depths like a THREE d image of.
IT i was, unsuccessful very very. Unsuccessful and WHEN i stopped,

(39:39):
DRAWING i stopped drawing BECAUSE i wasn't sure where it
was coming, from AND i just started fighting the. URGE
i went back about eight to twelve weeks, later picked
up paper and pencil and tried to, draw AND i
was back to myself, again with no ability to draw

(40:00):
even the simplest of. Things and to this day that
is still the. Fact every once in a WHILE i
do pick up a pencil and paper and, think, well let's,
try let's just see if this comes, back and nothing has,
happened So i'm back to the normal stake THAT i
was prior to. This so because of the way it,
happened never having an, ability never taking any of our,

(40:20):
classes never even having a desire to paint or draw
or anything like, that really left us wondering where this
was coming.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
From i've gone to your website And i've checked you,
KNOW i checked it. Out and When i've gone to your,
BLOG i see that you're making a strong connection between
optical illusions of what some people believe to be a

(40:51):
demonic face in the smoke on the burning. Tower and you,
Know i've gone over the footage time and time, again
AND i often wonder why people want to add a
demonic aspect in there when we know exactly what really.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Happened, WELL i think because of the image That Mark
philip captured with his, camera which is noted in my
Book Freelance, photographer who happened to live just a few
buildings from, there and when it was brought to attention
what was going, on he went to the top of
his building and took those, pictures that particular picture that's

(41:29):
in the. Book AND i had drawn the picture that
relates to his picture without seeing HIS i found his
on the internet sometime later on WHEN i was searching the,
internet and when that picture came, OUT i was. SHOCKED

(41:49):
i went back to my picture THAT i had drawn
while writing in the car with my, husband AND i
had drawn this, picture and in, FACT i had the
picture out in the. GARAGE i didn't even want it
in the house with me BECAUSE i didn't like. IT
i had been leaving it in the. Garage SO i
went to get the picture and brought it in and
looked at his. Picture so, then As i've mentioned in the,

(42:12):
BOOK i don't know IF i subliminally picked that up
while watching the events THAT i really did see that
picture in the, smoke even though it hadn't been pointed
out to any of, Us and that's WHY i drew,
it or if it was coming and it was being
channeled through me as a message that this is whatever's
going on is not. Good however the connection is, Made

(42:35):
i'm really not sure of and to this day how
the connection, Made only that my drawing was so so
similar to his picture that was captured of this image
and the.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Smoke, now is that the image that you have on
the front cover of your.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Book that's the one THAT i.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Drew, Yes and.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
That's the one you believe is similar to him his. Photograph,
YES i can't see a comparison.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
To, us we can They they look very much. Alike
there there are a few lines in them that are,
different but they were so close THAT i found it.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Shocking and that's the image that you have on the
front of your.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Book.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Yeah and also in the, say the page facing his
picture in the book THAT i got permission to use
in my book from, him on the opposite page is
the picture THAT i, drew so that the picture actually shows,
twice the one on the front cover and the one
inside the book so that they could see the similarity

(43:39):
with him.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Facing one Of you, Know i've got to be honest with,
You LIKE i, Said i'm looking at both of them
here on the split, screen AND i cannot see a.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Similarity oh, well you, know everything is it?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Perception is it the will and the desire to see
something in a photo that some people see it when
other people look at it objectively and they see.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
NOTHING i believe that could be very. True i'll give
you an example of. That while In. Alaska my husband
took a picture of a dredge In. Alaska when we
got the picture, BACK i could see an image WHICH
i will say was a ghost on top of a.
Dredge and had shown the picture to many many, people

(44:19):
and some people thought and some people couldn't see. It
so that would be a good example of.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
That, now, now prior to to this this, event and you're,
drawing had you gone to see psychics medium's clairvoyance before
or was this something that just happened after this?

Speaker 6 (44:35):
Event ACTUALLY i have to, admit, YES i had gone
to have my palm read In New jersey on the,
boardwalk and that was, many many many.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Years, ago all, Right but you bet you you didn't
have a fascination with the with the, unknown so to.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
Speak Correct.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
What changed your?

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Mind, WELL i think a lot of that changed my
mind is just going through this experience and wondering where
it came from and why why it happened to, Me
and it made me start doing. Research and you, KNOW
i took some of my drawings AND i AND i
tried desperately to find some way to explain. Them and

(45:21):
since then my mind has been, opened my eyes have been,
open and that there's a lot that goes on THAT
i believe is. Paranormal i've, also since since all this
has happened to, ME i often watched To goose stories
ON tv and paranormal activity because it has it has
piqued my, interest AND i do believe that a lot

(45:42):
goes on out there that we do not have control
of as far as the paranormal activity goes all.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Right stand by you AND i have to take our final.
Break we'll be back after some fine words from our
sponsors Ex. Ownation Linda Lee heck is our. Guest she's
the author of The channeling of nine to one one
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to play that? Song as we were winding up that
segment With Linda. Lee Heck craig wrote on a piece of,
paper another one bites the, dust and he put it
on the on the window that separates, us and he

(51:20):
was so. Right i'm, sorry it just got a little
bit way too. STRANGE i went to the, WEBSITE i
looked at the. PICTURES i saw no comparison. Whatsoever and
why is it that people have to implicate evil into some,
disaster some, catastrophe some horrific event that is caused by

(51:41):
human beings that has nothing whatsoever to do with? Evil
why did it take this lady nine years to publish her,
Book if she felt so strong about, it if there
was such a strong connection to these, drawings and she
really did want to help these two, charities WHICH i

(52:01):
think is that you, know it's a great thing to,
do why did it take nine years when she actually
could have been helping them along the. ROAD i get
very suspicious when things like this, happen very. Suspicious And
i've got to tell you something exonation THAT i just

(52:26):
really don't believe everything that people try to feed me
doing this. Job And i'm not afraid to. Question i'm
not afraid to. Challenge i'm not afraid to, say you, know,
basically what are you talking? About why didn't you do?
This why did you do? That for? Example for, example
another thing exonation is that there was no connection with the.

(52:50):
Paranormal all of a, sudden this book comes out automatic,
writing which could have been. Doodling, gosh kids do it
all the, time and you know it's it seems that
this is an opportunity to make, money AND i really
can't promote. THAT i don't buy. IT i looked at the.

(53:10):
PICTURES i didn't see any. Resemblance and for somebody to
sit and tell me, that you, know there's a, resemblance
or that she saw a picture that was taken by
somebody else and she saw a.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
GHOST i was.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Going to ask her if she had shown these pictures
to a professional mental counselor to see what the psychologist
would have. Said But craig and his ultimate wisdom said
in the, Interview So, craig thank you very, much. Buddy as,
always you're my safety. Factor and, Uh, craig what are

(53:48):
you drawing over there? Anyway uh, huh you're doing some automatic,
writing are.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
You?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Well, nope doesn't look like a. Devil, nope doesn't have
four Horns, Nope, Craig you're not going to get a
buck out in, time so just give it a, break
Pal let's just do what we, do investigate the world
of the paranormal and the science of. Powerpsychology there is
the truth out, there Ex, oonation AND i believe it

(54:16):
is out, there and it's only by weeding out those
who have ulterior motives will we find the. Truth, however
when it comes to this, BOOK i don't think you're
going to find the, Truth. Exhonation check it out. Yourself
www dot the channeling of nine to one one dot.
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(54:38):
i'll be back on the other side of this commercial.
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