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and mile. First of all, welcome back to the X
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zone and what is you know, what's going on with
social media these days? It seems that, you know, it's
even worse than mainstream media, and that there's more gruesome
stuff and more stuff that's being pumped up onto the
social media sites each and every day, especially in this
election time.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
That's so true, you know. But one of the things
that we know is citizen journalism has always been a
big thing. Obviously, you know, the Kennedy assassination in the
US is one of those examples. The only record we
have is some set up, some film that was captured
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the Pruiter films. So this has been going on for
a while. But right now what has changed so dramatically
as we all walk around with a phone in our pocket,
and that phone has a camera in it, and so
whenever anything happens now the first thing people do is
they pull out the camera. And when that happens, everybody's
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filming and nobody's helping. It turns out there's an effect
that's called the bystander effect. It's been documented for years
and it. You know, when something's happening, people really don't
know what to do. Might sound crazy, but until somebody
takes that first action, everybody sits on the sidelines. And
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today we have an excuse. We pull out that camera.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know, I've often wondered when I've seen some of
these videos on social media sites, what about the person's
right who is in that video, who doesn't want to
be videoed?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Well, you know, one of the things in this obviously
varies based on locale. But when you're in a public spot,
which is just about anything outside and I truly mean
this outside of a bedroom or a bathroom, it's been
determined that you don't have much right to privacy. You know,
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you're in a public spot and you could be filmed.
We're starting to see this with drones for example. You know,
drones could fly overhead, they could film me in your backyard,
and people have taken trying to down the drones and
find out that there's legal consequences to that. If you're
out in public, you could be videotaped, like it or not. So,
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you know, I understand that concern, but certainly that one's
one that at least according to the courts. You really
don't have a right to anymore.
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Balance Engines dot com. You know, we were talking before
we went to the Breaknile, about the you know, the
only places that are basically private are your bedrooms and
your washrooms. And yet these very same people who love
taking videos of everyone else doing everything else and fight
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for their right to do these videos post them on
all the social medias. A majority of these people who
say that big Brother is watching us and they don't
have the right to do that.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's fascinating. How whether you're filming or being film could
change your thoughts and feelings about that, There's no doubt
about that. As a matter of fact, we've obviously just
had a major issue in the US elections where a
video recording, i'm sorry, an audio recording came out of
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Donald Trump that he probably wishes didn't exist. How did
that happen? How did it come about? Certainly he's not
happy about it, but whoever had it certainly happy about it.
So you see these things time and time again. Sometimes
they have big consequences.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Well, especially since Billy Bush is Jeb Bush's nephew, that
may have had something to do with it. Plus the
fact that there was never a release signed by Donald Trump,
the recording was done without his knowledge. He didn't know
the mic or thought yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I think the worst part about it was the laws
in the US, regardless of where you're at, says, at
least one party has to know of the recording. In
that situation, it sounds like neither party knew that they
were being recorded. Clearly an illegal act, but obviously somebody
got away with it, at least they have so far.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's very interesting to watch all the different media clips
that are going up on the social media sites for
and against each of the candidates. So over the years,
how have you seen the changes in social media and
is it getting worse, is it getting better? Or can
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we expect more of the same.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, I think we're going to expect more of the
same for a period of time, and social media is
a new medium, and quite honestly, whenever we've got some
sort of new medium that we're not quite sure what
the rules are because nobody's told us. In some cases
they haven't been developed yet. We don't know quite how
to handle it, and when we don't know how to
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handle it, we typically don't handle it very well, at
least as far as history goes. So we've got this
new social media thing. We've got newsrooms that are clearing out.
They're now using citizen journalists to generate the news for them.
In fact, most big news breaking events happen from social
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media generated content today versus somebody in a newsroom breaking it.
So you're starting to see a reward system. We've got
a system where rules haven't been established. We don't know
what the social norms are, and so you've got a
little bit of the wild West going on. And the
wild West is now in our palms, on our smartphone
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devices or laptops, and it's called social media.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Should these social media venues be allowed to continue without
rules and regulations, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I think as we are to see some of the
more heinous and that's the best term for it events occur,
I think we're going to start to see some rules develop,
and once the rules are propagated people really know and
understand the rules, and maybe it'll be a little bit better,
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you know, at least it won't get in the mainstream.
You'll still have people posting in places where it might
be consumed, but certainly not the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You'd think that we would have learned when it comes
to social media that there should be rules and regulations
implemented by the amount of cyber bullying that is still
being perpetrated on the social media sites, and it seems
that nobody is doing anything about it.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, and you know right now, I know if you
have an issue of being cyber bullied and you call
your local law enforcement whatever that might be in your locale,
in many cases, they don't know what to do about it.
They don't have they don't have officers that are responsible
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to investigate. They don't know how to investigate. And in
cases like that, and I know this because I've been
contacted for this, they try to bring outside exports to say,
how do we find this where, you know, how do
we find out who these people are? Are they real?
H is John Smith on the social media cybral John Smith?
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Or is Mary Thompson? So you know they're they're working struggling,
and when I say they law enforcement to be able
to help with fiber owling. And when we've got that
situation that's occurring, obviously doesn't give people that are victims
that very much confidence in that getting resolved.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And then you've got the social media aspect that is
being used by terror organizations like ISIS.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So media is one of the avenues of communication or
not only terrorist but a lot of criminal organizations, because
that could post triggers in pictures, it could actually embed
textual information in pictures, and if they know that the
picture is going to go up and it's going to
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have a message in it, that they pull down and
decrypt the message. They're able to pass messages in plane sight.
And it's really scary what you could do and what
is being done on social media these days.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
What do you think the biggest problem is with social
media and how does it dehumanize society?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Well, you know, when we sit behind a keyboard and
we don't have any visual ques or auditory cues, it's
real easy to say things or do things that are
really very inhumane. And the interesting thing is is sometimes
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and this certainly isn't the defense, but we don't think
about it because we don't see it as a human action.
We're talking to a keyboard, we're expressing our thoughts, we're
just venting to, you know, a computer screen and a keyboard.
What we fail to realize is there's somebody else on
the other end of that and when they read the messages,
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they could really become very hurtful. And we've seen so
many cases where something was done online and whether it
was accidentally, whether it was just a cavalier attitude, whatever
it may have been, they take some action and all
of a sudden it translates into the real world and
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now you've got physical actions following some sort of cyber
conversation or argument or battle that went on.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Do you think that the social media sites like Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram and the rest of them should be taking more
responsibility and doing more to make sure that this doesn't happen?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I do you know when you think about let's just
talk about Facebook. For example, Facebook was developed by a
college student to be able to allow other college students
to connect, find out what was happening, and just become
more in tune with each other. Well, certainly it's involved
into something much bigger than that where just the AD
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revenue alone, which is their primary revenue today, is in
the billions of dollars a quarter. And when you've got
revenue like that now and you've got the number of
people on the site in such a wide range of
activities and ages and cultures and everything else, you now,
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I think, take on a responsibility. You have to to
be responsible for the contents that's there, to manage it
and all of that. So back when Facebook started, clearly
the way they started it was very appropriate. What they've
grown into. I think they've grown into sort of to
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steal a movie from a Marvel comic, you know, Spider Man,
with power comes responsibility. They've got a lot of power
today and with that power has kind of a lot
of responsibility, and I think they have to own up
to that responsibility.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Explanation. Nile Nichol is our guest this hour, Balance Engines
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have they gotten too big too fast?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I don't think there's any question about that. They are
clearly dealing with problems and issue use and people that
are manipulating the site that they had never foreseen, they'd
never contemplated, And there's not a roadmap for it. Nobody
knew this was going to happen. It wasn't going to
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evolve like this, so they are forced into the position
of playing catch up quickly. And as a matter of fact,
you've seen a number of instances where there have been
cyber bullying issues, maybe even some suicides as a result
of some of the cyber bullying that has went on.
They've tried to react to those situations. And what they're
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trying to do right now is they're trying to use
more some of what we started talking about earlier in
the show. They're trying to get more citizens, more users
of the site to be able to notice things, and
when they notice some report them so that they could
take action. I think they've also got the ability today
to be able to use some artificial intelligence programs to
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be able to monitor some of the things and at
least bring them to the attention of internal moderators that
might be able to take some action on that.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
So basically, have the social media sites police themselves.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, that's certainly going to have to be part of
what they do right now. They count on users to
help them in their policing efforts. They're certainly going to
have to grow into something bigger than what they're doing today,
because what they're doing today really could cause a lot
of damage before somebody reports it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Do you think the government should get involved and start
regulating the social media sites?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You know, that's a double edged sword. One part of
me wants to say, yeah, you know, it probably is
necessary and required. But every time I see government stick
their noses into something like that, they tend to go
overboard in one direction or the other, and it tends
to cause sometimes more problems than it actually solves. And so,
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you know, do we all want to see the problem solved? Absolutely?
Does it require more regulation, I'm nervous about that. I
think when we start talking about the potential of regulation,
I think now the sites start to get a lot
more interest in some of the self policing that they
need to do.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
You know, I've noticed a lot of the social media
sites have got pro and con Hillary and Trump, and
I'm just wondering how much influence do social media sites
have on the people who actually have the power to
vote these people as president or you know, where do
you draw the line?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That is a scary issue. I don't know if you
followed this, But a few years ago, there was a
social experiment conducted by Facebook. It it was Facebook scientists
that did it. They actually published the results. But what
they found is they were able to change the attitudes
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of people, either in a positive way or a negative way,
based on what they put in their news feed. And
so they found that they can manipulate the feelings and
emotions of people based on news feed content, and if
they wanted to feed a certain amount of content a
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certain way, they could influence how somebody was going to
react to it.
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Ex O Nation. Nile Nicholas my guest www. Dot Balance
Engines dot com and he is also the host of
the podcast show The Social Media Business Hour. We were
talking before we went to the break about how the
Internet or how social media can actually affect the outcome
of given events, and you were describing how a social
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media experiment was run and how scientists have found out that, yes,
what goes into a news speed can certainly affect the
outcome of something. Here you are, you're coming into an
election next month. What is it, November the eighth.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I believe, I believe that's correct.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And you have all this information coming out on the
social media sites about Donald Trump, about Hillary Clinton. He says,
she says, she says. He says. How does a voter
who is addicted and I know people who are addicted
to Facebook, how do they how do they rationalize what
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is fact and what is fiction?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Well, you know, that's a good question because one of
the challenges that anybody that's on social media faces is
you know, is this is this true or not? And
the second thing is is how recent is this story.
You'll find a lot of stories that are recycled on
social media and sometimes they come out and they will
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inflame a situation like this just occurred when it in
fact occurred two years ago. But as we talked about,
they did a social experiment and they found out that
they can manipulate how you think or feel. They have
a motivation to do that for the ad revenue. But
the question I think is there and that is is
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you know what happens if they decide that they want
to try to influence the election. They determined very quickly
if a voter is a likely Republican or a Democrat,
and how they are likely to vote. They could fill
your new speed one way or another and try to
sway you.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So basically we're talking about social media. Oh my gosh,
I just had the word here whole lo here subliminal messaging.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, we really are. I mean, you know, if we
start talking about pr and in a lot of respect,
social media uses a lot of pr Stratus Jesus, whether
we realize it or not. You know, one of the
things that pr professionals have been concerned about for well
over one hundred years now is the ethical duty that
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they have because they know that they can manipulate people's
thoughts and feelings. Well, we're seeing people that are very
good about doing that on social media. As a matter
of fact, I read a book recently and some of
the listeners would probably enjoy it a lot. It's called
trust Me I'm Lying. Confessions of a Media Manipulator by
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a gentleman by the name of Brian Holiday, and he
talks about how they specifically will inflame a story, put
edgy post out on the story, do some things like
that to manipulate the people responding to that story, so
they get them to respond the way they want them to.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
There was one there was something on Facebook today that
I just couldn't believe people were so stupid to believe
in it. Here you've got the it's all about the
voting fraud in one of the states, and they've got
this footage and in the corner is the Russian flag.
(32:17):
It had nothing to do with US elections. It was
it was voter fraud in the Russian elections, and yet
people were just getting inflamed. How can this happen in
the United States and yet there's a Russian flag right there.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Well, you did something that most people don't do, and
that is as you looked at it critically and analyzed
it and you ask yourself a few questions. Sure, and
unfortunately we sometimes too easily fall prey to the information
that's there. And I hadn't guilty of that, and I'm
an expert, and you know, we don't take the time
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to do those things. Obviously, there are sites that you
could go to, this one of them where you could
check the validity of some of these posts to find
out if they're really true or they're not true. Some
of these things are just pure outraight fiction, but they
sure we have a good story.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And it's funny because I was, you know, like I'm
looking at I'm saying that's a Russian flag, and then
I look at the comments. The number of shares were astronomical,
like I'm saying, my gosh. And in fact, I did
an op ed the other day about the power of
the media. It's no longer we the people, it's we
the media, and social media fits right into that into
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that category because it's based on a it's based on money.
If it don't bleed, it don't lead. You want the.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Numbers benefit, Yep. If it doesn't get likes, it's not
going to stick around very well. Exactly, it gets a
lot of likes, it's going to go viral and be
shared tremendously.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
So what does this do for someone who wants to
to put the real news out there and they know
that they're going against sensationalism. Isn't this count?
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Don't you?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What you're seeing is you're starting to see newsrooms clear out. Yeah,
and they want to use citizen journalists. As a matter
of fact, Fox News specifically has said we're looking to
replace a number of our newsrooms. They've partnered with some
people and it's called Fresno as a matter of fact,
(34:30):
and you could sign up as a citizen for Fresno
and every time a video gets shared, you get seventy
five dollars. In a photo gets shared, you get thirty dollars.
So you know they they the big news media. Fox
in newse case excuse me, is now pushing that out
to citizens and insteadivising them to share the information. Now,
(34:52):
is there any fact checking that goes on, are there
ethics that are in place? You know the answer to that, they're.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Just so yeah, So what what? What's happening to credible journalism?
Is it a thing of the past, Like there's no
more wab chron Kites, there's no more Dan reasoners that
we're all now looking at CNN and all the wing
nuts they have there and the other alphabet soup media
(35:19):
that's out there.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, you know, Fox News is one of these major networks,
and the fact that they are trying to replace journalists
in newsrooms, and I mean completely replaced, not just you know,
maybe we'll downfize a little bit. I'm talking about an
outright let's take them all out and put citizen journalism
in place. And that's what we're going to rely on. Listen,
(35:44):
Serious journalists, UH spend a lot of time and spend
a lot of money, get a lot of education to
be able to do their job properly, and they feel
a certain responsibility to report things accurately. If I about
the next seventy five dollars that I'm going to get,
I'm really not concerned about that. I'm concerned about the
next seventy five dollars payment it's.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Like the world weekly news is going to be replacing
all of the all the all the newsrooms. And like
you were saying, the journalist, the true journalist takes pride
in his job or her job. She's gone to broadcast school,
they've gone to journalism school. They've paid their dues just
(36:26):
to be ousted by anybody with an iPhone. That is
so insulting and so demeaning and so wrung in so
many ways.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, because of the economics of it, that's exactly what's happening.
And we the people, guess what, we're supporting that because
we're supporting it with our dollars. We're showing where we
vote based on where our eyes and where our attention is.
And when you consider that the average person that consumes
social media is on social media more than two hours
(37:01):
a day, Wow, tells you where their eyes are.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I would imagine that social media, as well as other
aspects of the technological world, is an addictive is an addiction?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Well, they found out that's the case too. As a
matter of fact, they've found I did a story on
this a few years ago. They've actually found true psychological effects,
full withdrawal effects. If you take it away that are
stronger than cocaine. So is it an addiction? It absolutely
positively is. And I don't know if you've noticed this,
(37:39):
but there are actually social media treatment centers popping up
around the world now, especially in the countries that are
consuming it in a major way.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
And I would imagine the United States is one of them.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
The United States is one of them, but we're not
the leading when if you talk about Korea, in Japan,
they are there are bigger consumers than we are, really
and that's where you're seeing most of the treatment centers
pop up. My gosh, and it's exactly like the A
A treatment program.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Except it's w w W treatment, w w W treatment.
The I was just thinking about what you said with
the major in Fox, you know, going to citizens, journal
journal citizens. What about all these what about all these
(38:33):
journalism schools? What about all these broadcast schools, Like here
in Hamilton, we've got Mohawk College a great place for broadcasting,
Niagara College broadcasting, you know, and then you can George
Brown University broadcasting, Sheridan College broadcasting. What's going to happen
to these these these universities, these schools of greater learning
(38:58):
where people used to be pro to say that they
graduated from Niagara College and broadcasting or Mohawk College and broadcasting.
And now you know little Susie Q, who's fifteen years
of age, she has a cell phone, she goes out,
she scoops a story, and she's taking over a seasoned broadcaster,
a journalist. I find that so degrading.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It is, But you know, maybe the other shift that's occurring.
Every college that you just mentioned, you know, has recognized
the shift that's occurring, and you'll notice now they are
offering degrees in social media, social media journalism, digital journalism.
So it's starting to shift not only from the Facebook
(39:43):
and Twitter parts of the world, but also into podcasting,
which is now becoming huge. Everybody has a microphone, you've
got your own show, and you could pick up a
big audience in a relatively short period of time.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But I'm from the old school. I started this show
twenty five years ago in a real radio studio, you know,
and I still do my shows in real radio studios.
And when I hear these people who come on, they
have a computer at home and they connect with Skype
and they've got a few podcasts and they're a radio station.
(40:19):
I figure you, moron, what the hell are you talking about?
You have no idea. You can say whatever you want
because there's no rules regulations, so you're not governed by
the FCC or the CRTC. You have free range to
do whatever you want. And I think that there has
(40:40):
to be some rule and regulations when it comes out
to podcasting or broadcasting online, because why should the main
why should people who have legitimate radio stations networks who
have to comply with FCC or CRTC rules and regulations.
(41:01):
You know, I have to follow these rules where anybody
with a computer, a microphone and the ability to skype
doesn't have to. To me, that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Well, and you're starting to see some of those shows
literally get millions, tens of millions in some cases of
listeners a week. There are some radio stations that don't
get that. Now. You know, we've got the same shift
that's occurring. You know it used to be that we
had in the US pre networks. Yep, Now how many
exist tons?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Hey listen, you and I've got to take our final
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That's www dot Balance Engines dot com and we'll be
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(45:26):
nearly thirty years, I have been investigating the case of
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(48:40):
our guests, Balance Engines, dot Com, Nile. What do you
think the next evolution in social media is going to be?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
You know, we're getting to the point in time where
we're starting to see virtual reality raise its hand, and
I think we're probably going to start to see within
the next few years. We'll probably see some elements of
it next year, integration of social media and virtual reality.
(49:13):
And that might sound a little bit bizarre, but we're
getting some very sophisticated three hundred and sixty degree cameras
that people could use now coming very affordable and very small.
By the time you do that, and you where we
can said with it, I mean you get literally people
(49:33):
in the of ustree.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
What about the copyright regulations that are being violated by
a lot of these people who put on uh social
you know, videos and audios on the social media sites.
How does an author protect himself from being violated by
having his materials stolen without getting the proper credit or
the proper licensing fees.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Well, you know, that's that's a big challenge today. I'd
like to I'd like to give you hope and say
that there's things. I mean, I could talk about YouTube.
YouTube had such a problem with audio being put onto
a video site, you know, where people could listen to
music or whatever. They actually started licensing it, paying the
(50:26):
royalties and putting advertising in it so that they could
recover that money. So, in other words, they determined that
they couldn't fight it anymore. But they did put a
policy in place to at least address it with royalties.
But it's becoming so pervasive now. If you create a
new piece of content and I do this digitally, I
(50:49):
find that it's not uncommon if I create a new
protected piece of digital content behind a membership wall or
something like that, somewhere in the world world, it generally
is copied and put up for sale in less than
a day.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
And you know, most of us don't have the ability.
In fact, even some of the big publishers don't have
the ability to deal with world right, worldwide copyright violations.
And then you've got a number of countries like China
that don't respect that anyway. So you know, we're almost
in the age of if you put it up on
(51:30):
the Internet, know that a lot of people may respect it.
May pay for it, may do what they need to do,
but you're going to have also a number of people
that are going to pill for it from you. It's
going to happen if you put it out there. In fact,
even if you don't put it on the internet, somebody
else will.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Yeah. You know, it's just like the software companies that
used to sell software. You'd go into your local store,
you'd buy a software package and the way you went.
But now, wow, if you want to buy good software,
you have to buy it from them on the cloud
so they can actually monitor your software.
Speaker 5 (52:09):
You know, Microsoft probably the biggest, and they're doing their
best to eliminate any our physical media and they only
want to be able to make it available and produce
it in the cloud. If it's not in the cloud,
you don't get it. So you know, we're going to
certainly see a move that direction, and that is sort
(52:31):
of the cat and mouse. It's the next step to
take it out of people's hands, but I'm not sure
it'll stay that way for too long.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Digital pirating is a big concern these days, not only
in the music industry of the video industry, but in
the publishing industry as well. I remember a time where
you could actually protect it. Whoops, are you there? Niall?
I think we lost our guest, Craig, what happened? Did
(53:02):
we lose our guest? Can you try and get him
back from me? Please? All right, Craig's going to try
and get our guests back. Okay, here we go. Should
you start talking about the internet and people cut you off?
His phone number is busy. I guess that he got
another call anyway. Explanation. What do you think is there
(53:24):
too much leeway on the Internet? I think there is.
I think that people who use the Internet should adhere
to the same policies and procedures that legitimate organizations do,
like broadcasting who have to comply with FCC regulations in
the States see RTC regulations up here. In Canada and
(53:47):
other regulatory bodies and other parts of the world. Why
should authors? Why should composers? Why should people who dedicate
so much of their lives be ripped off? Because because
it's on the internet, theft is theft. If you steal it,
you're a thief. If you don't pay for it and
(54:08):
use it, you're a thief. It's that plain, it's that simple,
And yet you have people who enjoy going on the
Internet and doing whatever they can to to kind of
take what they can without paying anything. What's your What
do you feel about that explanation? Does that make any
(54:29):
sense to you? Craig? Did you want me to try
and call our guest one more time? All right, Craig,
can you do that for me? Or there? Buddy? All right?
So Craig is going to try and do theirs and
let me see. So far, so good, So far up. Nope, Craig,
We're trying, but we get Let me try one more time,
(54:49):
don't you This is real radio, guys, where things happen. Nope,
all right, Craig, I guess we're just going to have
to hitchhike it from here. Let me tell you about
our guest. We've had the pleasure of having Nile Nickel
on the show before, and he's been seen on NBCCBS, ABC, Fox,
and CNN. He's a human human relations and technology expert,
(55:13):
and like we were saying, millions of videos are uploaded
onto the Internet every day, whether it be through Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, vimo,
et cetera. Some of the videos are innocent and funny,
while others actually capture a crime taking place. Uh, there
we go again. Craig. Why who's Craig? Who's doing this?
(55:35):
And why are they doing this? There's even a better question.
Tell me what you think of explanation, send me your emails.
What do you think about the social media? Should it
be governed? I'm you know, a lot of you say,
oh no, no, no, don't get the government involved. But let's
say you're one of the composers, you're one of the authors.
Your material is being ripped off, that is your bread
(55:58):
and butter. Isn't it a crime? Or are you that
complicit because you're Hey, what the heck? I've done it myself.
No harm done, you know, I like that song, I
just ripped it off or jeezy. I was able to
(56:18):
get a copy of this book online, but now I
didn't pay for it. My friend got it and he
passed it belonged to me. I don't think that's right
at all. I think that if you're going to be
ripping people off on the Internet, you're ripping them off
in other places as well. And when it comes to
the regulatory systems of audio and video on the internet,
(56:43):
I'm four one hundred percent. After all, legitimate radio stations,
legitimate television stations. They have rules and regulations to follow.
What makes you, people who do internet broadcasting or podcasting
so different? You should follow rules and regulations. The Internet
(57:08):
needs to be cleaned up. There's way too much crap
in it. And as I've said many times before, in
my opinion, the Internet is the biggest septic tank that
man has ever created. There's more crap in the Internet
than anywhere else on Earth. There's more thieves on the
(57:29):
Internet than anywhere else in the earth at all. The
bullying that happens on the internet, people like Niles said,
or you know, they're talking to a keyboard. They don't
get to see what happens on the other side when
that bullied message gets to that little girl or a
little guy, and the effect that it has on his
or her life. No moral judgments, no moral responsibility. Then,
(57:56):
like we were talking the the recruiting that is going
on by isis then like Niall was talking about the
scientific experiment that Facebook did to prove that they could
actually manipulate people using the Facebook newsfeed, that is so wrong.
(58:19):
What was it? Months ago? I wrote an article about
subliminal advertising on the Internet. It's happening, folks, it's happening.
You know, you spend more time on the Internet or
your iPhone than you do talking to people. There are
(58:40):
families that instead of calling each other for soccer, they
text each other. What has happened to society? We're going
into a whole new age of lol, LMFAO, BRB, lol
and the other alphabet soup that you use in the
(59:03):
Internet and social media. What's going to happen to communication skills, talking, listening,
exploring the wonders of the world? Does anybody think of that?
I think not. I'll be back tomorrow night as once
again we cross the time space continuum to this place
(59:26):
that I call the X Zone and for our guess
this hour, Nile Nicol. I'm sure there was an internet
problem because I've had the pleasure of having him on
the show before, and I promise you exonation, we will
have Nile back in the future. If you'd like more
information on Nile, his website is Balance Energies dot coms
(59:46):
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Now here's your host, Rob McConnell. All right, welcome back everyone.
This is the X Zone. I am Rob McConnell, and
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TV dot com. Millions of videos are uploaded onto the
Internet every day, whether it be through Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
(02:21):
you know, and the other sites. Some of the videos
are innocent and funny, while others are actually capturing a
crime taking place. These video show bystanders filming the crime
instead of helping the victim or alerting police. They feel
it as if they are so detached that it doesn't
call on them to emphathy, you know, empathize with the victim,
(02:42):
even you know, not even calling the police. We're getting
in there and helping. Instead, they film then quickly uploaded
onto social media to telling how many likes, hits, or
shares it gets. Well. My guest this hour is Nile Nickel.
He's been seen on NBCCBS, ABC, Fox, and he's an
expert on social media, technology and human relations. He's the
(03:03):
president and CEO of Balance Engines LLC and Small Change LLC.
He is a science, technology and social media reporter. He's
a LinkedIn expert, and he's an authority on how to
utilize LinkedIn to build your brand, your business and your connections,
and his website is www. Dot Balance Engines dot com
and mile. First of all, welcome back to the X
(03:25):
zone and what is you know, what's going on with
social media these days? It seems that, you know, it's
even worse than mainstream media, and that there's more gruesome
stuff and more stuff that's being pumped up onto the
social media sites each and every day, especially in this
election time.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
That's so true, you know. But one of the things
that we know is citizen journalism has always been a
big thing. Obviously, you know, the Kennedy assassination in the
US is one of those examples. The only record we
have is some set up, some film that was captured
(04:04):
the Pruiter films. So this has been going on for
a while. But right now what has changed so dramatically
as we all walk around with a phone in our pocket,
and that phone has a camera in it, and so
whenever anything happens now the first thing people do is
they pull out the camera. And when that happens, everybody's
(04:26):
filming and nobody's helping. It turns out there's an effect
that's called the bystander effect. It's been documented for years
and it. You know, when something's happening, people really don't
know what to do. Might sound crazy, but until somebody
takes that first action, everybody sits on the sidelines. And
(04:46):
today we have an excuse. We pull out that camera.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know, I've often wondered when I've seen some of
these videos on social media sites, what about the person's
right who is in that video, who doesn't want to
be videoed?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Well, you know, one of the things in this obviously
varies based on locale. But when you're in a public spot,
which is just about anything outside and I truly mean
this outside of a bedroom or a bathroom, it's been
determined that you don't have much right to privacy. You know,
(05:26):
you're in a public spot and you could be filmed.
We're starting to see this with drones for example. You know,
drones could fly overhead, they could film me in your backyard,
and people have taken trying to down the drones and
find out that there's legal consequences to that. If you're
out in public, you could be videotaped, like it or not. So,
(05:49):
you know, I understand that concern, but certainly that one's
one that at least according to the courts. You really
don't have a right to anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now I'll stand by you, won't. I have to take
our first break. We'll be back in two minutes. X
own nation, social media dehumanizes society. And we're talking to
Nile Nickel this hour. He is a human relations and
technology expert. His website is www dot Balance Engines dot com.
This is the X Zone. I am Rob McConnell. Will
be back on the other side of this break. Here
(06:20):
in our studios from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and around the
world on the Xzone broadcast network. Don't forget. You can
find out who's on the xone broadcast network simply by
going to www dot XEDBN dot net. Nile Nicola and
I return, don't go away.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
This is Kevin Randall. For nearly thirty years, I have
been investigating the case of the Roswell UFO. I have
interviewed hundreds of people and stood on the crash site
now in Roswell in the twenty first century. I have
reviewed dozens of hours of audio and videotaped interviews, examined
hundreds of files that relate to the crash, and have
returned to Roswell in an attempt to put all that
information into the proper perspective. For the first time. In
(07:37):
Roswell in the twenty first Century, I have made a
dispassionate reevaluation of all that material and provide a new
look at what happened. This is a book that clears
away all the clutter that has hidden the truth for
so long, strips away the various lives that surround the case,
exposes the air force attempts at cover up, and found
a core of solid information that tells us all where
the case stands today. Roswell in the twenty first Century
(07:59):
will be available in just a few weeks. For more information,
please visit my website at www dot Kevinrandall dot blogspot
dot com.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Gibsey Williams, PhD is a practicing psychoanalyst, supervisor, researcher, and
author in New York City. Much of his life has
been dedicated to understanding nature and the uses of meaningful
coincidences or synchronicities. His radical and original, non Jungian, non mystical,
non magical theory of synchronicities illuminates much of the fog
(08:33):
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Nile Nichola is our special guest this hour. Www dot
Balance Engines dot com. You know, we were talking before
we went to the Breaknile, about the you know, the
only places that are basically private are your bedrooms and
your washrooms. And yet these very same people who love
taking videos of everyone else doing everything else and fight
(10:47):
for their right to do these videos post them on
all the social medias. A majority of these people who
say that big Brother is watching us and they don't
have the right to do that.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's fascinating. How whether you're filming or being film could
change your thoughts and feelings about that, There's no doubt
about that. As a matter of fact, we've obviously just
had a major issue in the US elections where a
video recording, i'm sorry, an audio recording came out of
(11:22):
Donald Trump that he probably wishes didn't exist. How did
that happen? How did it come about? Certainly he's not
happy about it, but whoever had it certainly happy about it.
So you see these things time and time again. Sometimes
they have big consequences.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Well, especially since Billy Bush is Jeb Bush's nephew, that
may have had something to do with it. Plus the
fact that there was never a release signed by Donald Trump,
the recording was done without his knowledge. He didn't know
the mic or thought yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I think the worst part about it was the laws
in the US, regardless of where you're at, says, at
least one party has to know of the recording. In
that situation, it sounds like neither party knew that they
were being recorded. Clearly an illegal act, but obviously somebody
got away with it, at least they have so far.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's very interesting to watch all the different media clips
that are going up on the social media sites for
and against each of the candidates. So over the years,
how have you seen the changes in social media and
is it getting worse, is it getting better? Or can
(12:38):
we expect more of the same.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, I think we're going to expect more of the
same for a period of time, and social media is
a new medium, and quite honestly, whenever we've got some
sort of new medium that we're not quite sure what
the rules are because nobody's told us. In some cases
they haven't been developed yet. We don't know quite how
to handle it, and when we don't know how to
(13:02):
handle it, we typically don't handle it very well, at
least as far as history goes. So we've got this
new social media thing. We've got newsrooms that are clearing out.
They're now using citizen journalists to generate the news for them.
In fact, most big news breaking events happen from social
(13:24):
media generated content today versus somebody in a newsroom breaking it.
So you're starting to see a reward system. We've got
a system where rules haven't been established. We don't know
what the social norms are, and so you've got a
little bit of the wild West going on. And the
wild West is now in our palms, on our smartphone
(13:48):
devices or laptops, and it's called social media.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Should these social media venues be allowed to continue without
rules and regulations, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I think as we are to see some of the
more heinous and that's the best term for it events occur,
I think we're going to start to see some rules develop,
and once the rules are propagated people really know and
understand the rules, and maybe it'll be a little bit better,
(14:21):
you know, at least it won't get in the mainstream.
You'll still have people posting in places where it might
be consumed, but certainly not the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You'd think that we would have learned when it comes
to social media that there should be rules and regulations
implemented by the amount of cyber bullying that is still
being perpetrated on the social media sites, and it seems
that nobody is doing anything about it.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, and you know right now, I know if you
have an issue of being cyber bullied and you call
your local law enforcement whatever that might be in your locale,
in many cases, they don't know what to do about it.
They don't have they don't have officers that are responsible
(15:16):
to investigate. They don't know how to investigate. And in
cases like that, and I know this because I've been
contacted for this, they try to bring outside exports to say,
how do we find this where, you know, how do
we find out who these people are? Are they real?
H is John Smith on the social media cybral John Smith?
(15:38):
Or is Mary Thompson? So you know they're they're working struggling,
and when I say they law enforcement to be able
to help with fiber owling. And when we've got that
situation that's occurring, obviously doesn't give people that are victims
that very much confidence in that getting resolved.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And then you've got the social media aspect that is
being used by terror organizations like ISIS.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So media is one of the avenues of communication or
not only terrorist but a lot of criminal organizations, because
that could post triggers in pictures, it could actually embed
textual information in pictures, and if they know that the
picture is going to go up and it's going to
(16:27):
have a message in it, that they pull down and
decrypt the message. They're able to pass messages in plane sight.
And it's really scary what you could do and what
is being done on social media these days.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
What do you think the biggest problem is with social
media and how does it dehumanize society?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Well, you know, when we sit behind a keyboard and
we don't have any visual ques or auditory cues, it's
real easy to say things or do things that are
really very inhumane. And the interesting thing is is sometimes
(17:13):
and this certainly isn't the defense, but we don't think
about it because we don't see it as a human action.
We're talking to a keyboard, we're expressing our thoughts, we're
just venting to, you know, a computer screen and a keyboard.
What we fail to realize is there's somebody else on
the other end of that and when they read the messages,
(17:36):
they could really become very hurtful. And we've seen so
many cases where something was done online and whether it
was accidentally, whether it was just a cavalier attitude, whatever
it may have been, they take some action and all
of a sudden it translates into the real world and
(17:56):
now you've got physical actions following some sort of cyber
conversation or argument or battle that went on.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Do you think that the social media sites like Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram and the rest of them should be taking more
responsibility and doing more to make sure that this doesn't happen?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I do you know when you think about let's just
talk about Facebook. For example, Facebook was developed by a
college student to be able to allow other college students
to connect, find out what was happening, and just become
more in tune with each other. Well, certainly it's involved
into something much bigger than that where just the AD
(18:46):
revenue alone, which is their primary revenue today, is in
the billions of dollars a quarter. And when you've got
revenue like that now and you've got the number of
people on the site in such a wide range of
activities and ages and cultures and everything else, you now,
(19:06):
I think, take on a responsibility. You have to to
be responsible for the contents that's there, to manage it
and all of that. So back when Facebook started, clearly
the way they started it was very appropriate. What they've
grown into. I think they've grown into sort of to
(19:26):
steal a movie from a Marvel comic, you know, Spider Man,
with power comes responsibility. They've got a lot of power
today and with that power has kind of a lot
of responsibility, and I think they have to own up
to that responsibility.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Explanation. Nile Nichol is our guest this hour, Balance Engines
dot Com. With all this money that that they're making,
have they gotten too big too fast?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I don't think there's any question about that. They are
clearly dealing with problems and issue use and people that
are manipulating the site that they had never foreseen, they'd
never contemplated, And there's not a roadmap for it. Nobody
knew this was going to happen. It wasn't going to
(20:14):
evolve like this, so they are forced into the position
of playing catch up quickly. And as a matter of fact,
you've seen a number of instances where there have been
cyber bullying issues, maybe even some suicides as a result
of some of the cyber bullying that has went on.
They've tried to react to those situations. And what they're
(20:37):
trying to do right now is they're trying to use
more some of what we started talking about earlier in
the show. They're trying to get more citizens, more users
of the site to be able to notice things, and
when they notice some report them so that they could
take action. I think they've also got the ability today
to be able to use some artificial intelligence programs to
(21:02):
be able to monitor some of the things and at
least bring them to the attention of internal moderators that
might be able to take some action on that.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
So basically, have the social media sites police themselves.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, that's certainly going to have to be part of
what they do right now. They count on users to
help them in their policing efforts. They're certainly going to
have to grow into something bigger than what they're doing today,
because what they're doing today really could cause a lot
of damage before somebody reports it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Do you think the government should get involved and start
regulating the social media sites?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You know, that's a double edged sword. One part of
me wants to say, yeah, you know, it probably is
necessary and required. But every time I see government stick
their noses into something like that, they tend to go
overboard in one direction or the other, and it tends
to cause sometimes more problems than it actually solves. And so,
(22:04):
you know, do we all want to see the problem solved? Absolutely?
Does it require more regulation, I'm nervous about that. I
think when we start talking about the potential of regulation,
I think now the sites start to get a lot
more interest in some of the self policing that they
need to do.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
You know, I've noticed a lot of the social media
sites have got pro and con Hillary and Trump, and
I'm just wondering how much influence do social media sites
have on the people who actually have the power to
vote these people as president or you know, where do
you draw the line?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That is a scary issue. I don't know if you
followed this, But a few years ago, there was a
social experiment conducted by Facebook. It it was Facebook scientists
that did it. They actually published the results. But what
they found is they were able to change the attitudes
(23:10):
of people, either in a positive way or a negative way,
based on what they put in their news feed. And
so they found that they can manipulate the feelings and
emotions of people based on news feed content, and if
they wanted to feed a certain amount of content a
(23:31):
certain way, they could influence how somebody was going to
react to it.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
All right, it's done by Nil. You and I have
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Ex O Nation. Nile Nicholas my guest www. Dot Balance
Engines dot com and he is also the host of
the podcast show The Social Media Business Hour. We were
talking before we went to the break about how the
Internet or how social media can actually affect the outcome
of given events, and you were describing how a social
(28:50):
media experiment was run and how scientists have found out that, yes,
what goes into a news speed can certainly affect the
outcome of something. Here you are, you're coming into an
election next month. What is it, November the eighth.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I believe, I believe that's correct.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And you have all this information coming out on the
social media sites about Donald Trump, about Hillary Clinton. He says,
she says, she says. He says. How does a voter
who is addicted and I know people who are addicted
to Facebook, how do they how do they rationalize what
(29:33):
is fact and what is fiction?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Well, you know, that's a good question because one of
the challenges that anybody that's on social media faces is
you know, is this is this true or not? And
the second thing is is how recent is this story.
You'll find a lot of stories that are recycled on
social media and sometimes they come out and they will
(30:00):
inflame a situation like this just occurred when it in
fact occurred two years ago. But as we talked about,
they did a social experiment and they found out that
they can manipulate how you think or feel. They have
a motivation to do that for the ad revenue. But
the question I think is there and that is is
(30:22):
you know what happens if they decide that they want
to try to influence the election. They determined very quickly
if a voter is a likely Republican or a Democrat,
and how they are likely to vote. They could fill
your new speed one way or another and try to
sway you.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So basically we're talking about social media. Oh my gosh,
I just had the word here whole lo here subliminal messaging.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, we really are. I mean, you know, if we
start talking about pr and in a lot of respect,
social media uses a lot of pr Stratus Jesus, whether
we realize it or not. You know, one of the
things that pr professionals have been concerned about for well
over one hundred years now is the ethical duty that
(31:12):
they have because they know that they can manipulate people's
thoughts and feelings. Well, we're seeing people that are very
good about doing that on social media. As a matter
of fact, I read a book recently and some of
the listeners would probably enjoy it a lot. It's called
trust Me I'm Lying. Confessions of a Media Manipulator by
(31:35):
a gentleman by the name of Brian Holiday, and he
talks about how they specifically will inflame a story, put
edgy post out on the story, do some things like
that to manipulate the people responding to that story, so
they get them to respond the way they want them to.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
There was one there was something on Facebook today that
I just couldn't believe people were so stupid to believe
in it. Here you've got the it's all about the
voting fraud in one of the states, and they've got
this footage and in the corner is the Russian flag.
(32:17):
It had nothing to do with US elections. It was
it was voter fraud in the Russian elections, and yet
people were just getting inflamed. How can this happen in
the United States and yet there's a Russian flag right there.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Well, you did something that most people don't do, and
that is as you looked at it critically and analyzed
it and you ask yourself a few questions. Sure, and
unfortunately we sometimes too easily fall prey to the information
that's there. And I hadn't guilty of that, and I'm
an expert, and you know, we don't take the time
(32:53):
to do those things. Obviously, there are sites that you
could go to, this one of them where you could
check the validity of some of these posts to find
out if they're really true or they're not true. Some
of these things are just pure outraight fiction, but they
sure we have a good story.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And it's funny because I was, you know, like I'm
looking at I'm saying that's a Russian flag, and then
I look at the comments. The number of shares were astronomical,
like I'm saying, my gosh. And in fact, I did
an op ed the other day about the power of
the media. It's no longer we the people, it's we
the media, and social media fits right into that into
(33:35):
that category because it's based on a it's based on money.
If it don't bleed, it don't lead. You want the.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Numbers benefit, Yep. If it doesn't get likes, it's not
going to stick around very well. Exactly, it gets a
lot of likes, it's going to go viral and be
shared tremendously.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
So what does this do for someone who wants to
to put the real news out there and they know
that they're going against sensationalism. Isn't this count?
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Don't you?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What you're seeing is you're starting to see newsrooms clear out. Yeah,
and they want to use citizen journalists. As a matter
of fact, Fox News specifically has said we're looking to
replace a number of our newsrooms. They've partnered with some
people and it's called Fresno as a matter of fact,
(34:30):
and you could sign up as a citizen for Fresno
and every time a video gets shared, you get seventy
five dollars. In a photo gets shared, you get thirty dollars.
So you know they they the big news media. Fox
in newse case excuse me, is now pushing that out
to citizens and insteadivising them to share the information. Now,
(34:52):
is there any fact checking that goes on, are there
ethics that are in place? You know the answer to that, they're.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Just so yeah, So what what? What's happening to credible journalism?
Is it a thing of the past, Like there's no
more wab chron Kites, there's no more Dan reasoners that
we're all now looking at CNN and all the wing
nuts they have there and the other alphabet soup media
(35:19):
that's out there.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, you know, Fox News is one of these major networks,
and the fact that they are trying to replace journalists
in newsrooms, and I mean completely replaced, not just you know,
maybe we'll downfize a little bit. I'm talking about an
outright let's take them all out and put citizen journalism
in place. And that's what we're going to rely on. Listen,
(35:44):
Serious journalists, UH spend a lot of time and spend
a lot of money, get a lot of education to
be able to do their job properly, and they feel
a certain responsibility to report things accurately. If I about
the next seventy five dollars that I'm going to get,
I'm really not concerned about that. I'm concerned about the
next seventy five dollars payment it's.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Like the world weekly news is going to be replacing
all of the all the all the newsrooms. And like
you were saying, the journalist, the true journalist takes pride
in his job or her job. She's gone to broadcast school,
they've gone to journalism school. They've paid their dues just
(36:26):
to be ousted by anybody with an iPhone. That is
so insulting and so demeaning and so wrung in so
many ways.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, because of the economics of it, that's exactly what's happening.
And we the people, guess what, we're supporting that because
we're supporting it with our dollars. We're showing where we
vote based on where our eyes and where our attention is.
And when you consider that the average person that consumes
social media is on social media more than two hours
(37:01):
a day, Wow, tells you where their eyes are.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I would imagine that social media, as well as other
aspects of the technological world, is an addictive is an addiction?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Well, they found out that's the case too. As a
matter of fact, they've found I did a story on
this a few years ago. They've actually found true psychological effects,
full withdrawal effects. If you take it away that are
stronger than cocaine. So is it an addiction? It absolutely
positively is. And I don't know if you've noticed this,
(37:39):
but there are actually social media treatment centers popping up
around the world now, especially in the countries that are
consuming it in a major way.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
And I would imagine the United States is one of them.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
The United States is one of them, but we're not
the leading when if you talk about Korea, in Japan,
they are there are bigger consumers than we are, really
and that's where you're seeing most of the treatment centers
pop up. My gosh, and it's exactly like the A
A treatment program.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Except it's w w W treatment, w w W treatment.
The I was just thinking about what you said with
the major in Fox, you know, going to citizens, journal
journal citizens. What about all these what about all these
(38:33):
journalism schools? What about all these broadcast schools, Like here
in Hamilton, we've got Mohawk College a great place for broadcasting,
Niagara College broadcasting, you know, and then you can George
Brown University broadcasting, Sheridan College broadcasting. What's going to happen
to these these these universities, these schools of greater learning
(38:58):
where people used to be pro to say that they
graduated from Niagara College and broadcasting or Mohawk College and broadcasting.
And now you know little Susie Q, who's fifteen years
of age, she has a cell phone, she goes out,
she scoops a story, and she's taking over a seasoned broadcaster,
a journalist. I find that so degrading.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It is, But you know, maybe the other shift that's occurring.
Every college that you just mentioned, you know, has recognized
the shift that's occurring, and you'll notice now they are
offering degrees in social media, social media journalism, digital journalism.
So it's starting to shift not only from the Facebook
(39:43):
and Twitter parts of the world, but also into podcasting,
which is now becoming huge. Everybody has a microphone, you've
got your own show, and you could pick up a
big audience in a relatively short period of time.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But I'm from the old school. I started this show
twenty five years ago in a real radio studio, you know,
and I still do my shows in real radio studios.
And when I hear these people who come on, they
have a computer at home and they connect with Skype
and they've got a few podcasts and they're a radio station.
(40:19):
I figure you, moron, what the hell are you talking about?
You have no idea. You can say whatever you want
because there's no rules regulations, so you're not governed by
the FCC or the CRTC. You have free range to
do whatever you want. And I think that there has
(40:40):
to be some rule and regulations when it comes out
to podcasting or broadcasting online, because why should the main
why should people who have legitimate radio stations networks who
have to comply with FCC or CRTC rules and regulations.
(41:01):
You know, I have to follow these rules where anybody
with a computer, a microphone and the ability to skype
doesn't have to. To me, that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Well, and you're starting to see some of those shows
literally get millions, tens of millions in some cases of
listeners a week. There are some radio stations that don't
get that. Now. You know, we've got the same shift
that's occurring. You know it used to be that we
had in the US pre networks. Yep, Now how many
exist tons?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
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Coming soon to the Exone Broadcast Network is a different
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nearly thirty years, I have been investigating the case of
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our guests, Balance Engines, dot Com, Nile. What do you
think the next evolution in social media is going to be?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
You know, we're getting to the point in time where
we're starting to see virtual reality raise its hand, and
I think we're probably going to start to see within
the next few years. We'll probably see some elements of
it next year, integration of social media and virtual reality.
(49:13):
And that might sound a little bit bizarre, but we're
getting some very sophisticated three hundred and sixty degree cameras
that people could use now coming very affordable and very small.
By the time you do that, and you where we
can said with it, I mean you get literally people
(49:33):
in the of ustree.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
What about the copyright regulations that are being violated by
a lot of these people who put on uh social
you know, videos and audios on the social media sites.
How does an author protect himself from being violated by
having his materials stolen without getting the proper credit or
the proper licensing fees.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Well, you know, that's that's a big challenge today. I'd
like to I'd like to give you hope and say
that there's things. I mean, I could talk about YouTube.
YouTube had such a problem with audio being put onto
a video site, you know, where people could listen to
music or whatever. They actually started licensing it, paying the
(50:26):
royalties and putting advertising in it so that they could
recover that money. So, in other words, they determined that
they couldn't fight it anymore. But they did put a
policy in place to at least address it with royalties.
But it's becoming so pervasive now. If you create a
new piece of content and I do this digitally, I
(50:49):
find that it's not uncommon if I create a new
protected piece of digital content behind a membership wall or
something like that, somewhere in the world world, it generally
is copied and put up for sale in less than
a day.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
And you know, most of us don't have the ability.
In fact, even some of the big publishers don't have
the ability to deal with world right, worldwide copyright violations.
And then you've got a number of countries like China
that don't respect that anyway. So you know, we're almost
in the age of if you put it up on
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the Internet, know that a lot of people may respect it.
May pay for it, may do what they need to do,
but you're going to have also a number of people
that are going to pill for it from you. It's
going to happen if you put it out there. In fact,
even if you don't put it on the internet, somebody
else will.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Yeah. You know, it's just like the software companies that
used to sell software. You'd go into your local store,
you'd buy a software package and the way you went.
But now, wow, if you want to buy good software,
you have to buy it from them on the cloud
so they can actually monitor your software.
Speaker 5 (52:09):
You know, Microsoft probably the biggest, and they're doing their
best to eliminate any our physical media and they only
want to be able to make it available and produce
it in the cloud. If it's not in the cloud,
you don't get it. So you know, we're going to
certainly see a move that direction, and that is sort
(52:31):
of the cat and mouse. It's the next step to
take it out of people's hands, but I'm not sure
it'll stay that way for too long.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Digital pirating is a big concern these days, not only
in the music industry of the video industry, but in
the publishing industry as well. I remember a time where
you could actually protect it. Whoops, are you there? Niall?
I think we lost our guest, Craig, what happened? Did
(53:02):
we lose our guest? Can you try and get him
back from me? Please? All right, Craig's going to try
and get our guests back. Okay, here we go. Should
you start talking about the internet and people cut you off?
His phone number is busy. I guess that he got
another call anyway. Explanation. What do you think is there
(53:24):
too much leeway on the Internet? I think there is.
I think that people who use the Internet should adhere
to the same policies and procedures that legitimate organizations do,
like broadcasting who have to comply with FCC regulations in
the States see RTC regulations up here. In Canada and
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other regulatory bodies and other parts of the world. Why
should authors? Why should composers? Why should people who dedicate
so much of their lives be ripped off? Because because
it's on the internet, theft is theft. If you steal it,
you're a thief. If you don't pay for it and
(54:08):
use it, you're a thief. It's that plain, it's that simple,
And yet you have people who enjoy going on the
Internet and doing whatever they can to to kind of
take what they can without paying anything. What's your What
do you feel about that explanation? Does that make any
(54:29):
sense to you? Craig? Did you want me to try
and call our guest one more time? All right, Craig,
can you do that for me? Or there? Buddy? All right?
So Craig is going to try and do theirs and
let me see. So far, so good, So far up. Nope, Craig,
We're trying, but we get Let me try one more time,
(54:49):
don't you This is real radio, guys, where things happen. Nope,
all right, Craig, I guess we're just going to have
to hitchhike it from here. Let me tell you about
our guest. We've had the pleasure of having Nile Nickel
on the show before, and he's been seen on NBCCBS, ABC, Fox,
and CNN. He's a human human relations and technology expert,
(55:13):
and like we were saying, millions of videos are uploaded
onto the Internet every day, whether it be through Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, vimo,
et cetera. Some of the videos are innocent and funny,
while others actually capture a crime taking place. Uh, there
we go again. Craig. Why who's Craig? Who's doing this?
(55:35):
And why are they doing this? There's even a better question.
Tell me what you think of explanation, send me your emails.
What do you think about the social media? Should it
be governed? I'm you know, a lot of you say,
oh no, no, no, don't get the government involved. But let's
say you're one of the composers, you're one of the authors.
Your material is being ripped off, that is your bread
(55:58):
and butter. Isn't it a crime? Or are you that
complicit because you're Hey, what the heck? I've done it myself.
No harm done, you know, I like that song, I
just ripped it off or jeezy. I was able to
(56:18):
get a copy of this book online, but now I
didn't pay for it. My friend got it and he
passed it belonged to me. I don't think that's right
at all. I think that if you're going to be
ripping people off on the Internet, you're ripping them off
in other places as well. And when it comes to
the regulatory systems of audio and video on the internet,
(56:43):
I'm four one hundred percent. After all, legitimate radio stations,
legitimate television stations. They have rules and regulations to follow.
What makes you, people who do internet broadcasting or podcasting
so different? You should follow rules and regulations. The Internet
(57:08):
needs to be cleaned up. There's way too much crap
in it. And as I've said many times before, in
my opinion, the Internet is the biggest septic tank that
man has ever created. There's more crap in the Internet
than anywhere else on Earth. There's more thieves on the
(57:29):
Internet than anywhere else in the earth at all. The
bullying that happens on the internet, people like Niles said,
or you know, they're talking to a keyboard. They don't
get to see what happens on the other side when
that bullied message gets to that little girl or a
little guy, and the effect that it has on his
or her life. No moral judgments, no moral responsibility. Then,
(57:56):
like we were talking the the recruiting that is going
on by isis then like Niall was talking about the
scientific experiment that Facebook did to prove that they could
actually manipulate people using the Facebook newsfeed, that is so wrong.
(58:19):
What was it? Months ago? I wrote an article about
subliminal advertising on the Internet. It's happening, folks, it's happening.
You know, you spend more time on the Internet or
your iPhone than you do talking to people. There are
(58:40):
families that instead of calling each other for soccer, they
text each other. What has happened to society? We're going
into a whole new age of lol, LMFAO, BRB, lol
and the other alphabet soup that you use in the
(59:03):
Internet and social media. What's going to happen to communication skills, talking, listening,
exploring the wonders of the world? Does anybody think of that?
I think not. I'll be back tomorrow night as once
again we cross the time space continuum to this place
(59:26):
that I call the X Zone and for our guess
this hour, Nile Nicol. I'm sure there was an internet
problem because I've had the pleasure of having him on
the show before, and I promise you exonation, we will
have Nile back in the future. If you'd like more
information on Nile, his website is Balance Energies dot coms
(59:46):
www dot Balance Energies dot com. I am Rob McConnell.
This is the X Zone. We're coming to you from
our broadcast center in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Now, as I say,
at this time of night, every night. If you can
help someone else to make a positive difference in their life,
do it. Whether it's smiling, opening up a door, digging
(01:00:07):
deep into your pocket, sharing a can of food, whatever
it is, remember always keep your eyes to the sky
and your heart to the light. Good night, everyone,
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