November 25, 2025 • 56 mins
Phil Humphries is a former member of the Military, CIA Officer, Police Officer, Author, Theatrical Actor and Comedian discusses UFOs/UAPs and the possibilities that surround the phenomenon.
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news contributor and retired member of the Central Intelligence Agency.
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Joining me now is a Philip Humphrees and Philip parkom
to the X Zone.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Thank you, sir, glad to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Tell us a little bit about yourself. You've got quite
a career spanning from media to the CIA. How did
you go from CIA to media or was it media
to CIA?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Actually it was CIA to media. About a year or
so before I retired from CIA, I was asked to
do a an internal training film and I did, and
I did pretty well, and I kind of liked it.
So after I got out and retired, I thought well,
you know, maybe I'll give the entertainment industry a shot.
(03:12):
And that's how it all started.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
As a member of the CIA, where were you posted?
Were you a contractor or were you a CIA officer?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I was a staff officer, an actual employee of CIA.
I have a government pension. I was assigned a variety
of places. Actually I was home based in Washington, d C.
At our Virginia headquarters, and we have several outbuildings in
that northern Virginia area, and I worked out of two
(03:46):
or three of those at one time or another. And
then I did a number of rotations overseas. Length to
time varied depending on where we were going and what
we were doing. But I probably worked in i'd say
a dozen countries and have been around the world.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
You've been around the world a couple of times, I
would imagine.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, it was for a kid from small town Indiana,
it was quite the adventure.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, thank you for your service. I know the CIA
does a very important job in maintaining peace and freedom
around the world.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So thank you, sir, Thank you very much. Oddly enough,
I was trained by CEESS.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Oh Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yep, they were We met in a southern US State,
and they were my formal trainers because the relationship between
the agencies is so close, as it.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Very well should be. What's your outlook on the present
situation around the world right now compared to when you
were a CIA officer.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It's still volatile. I mean, there's hope for Eastern Europe
and for the Ukraine and the Russian Federation to solve
their issues. And you know, the Islamist terrorist thing, it's
still going. It was when I was there and it
still is now. And I don't think any politician is
(05:19):
going to wave a wand and make that go away
anytime soon. The world's essentially, you know, about the same
as it was when I was working at A few
things have changed, but overall it's the same old planet.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
For now. Anyway, where did your interest in ufozts and
the Strange and the Bazaar come from?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I actually was interested. Even as a kid. I thought
UFO the concept of aliens visiting Earth was just fascinating
to me. And then when I got into law enforcement,
which was my first professional career prior to CIA, I
you know, I got a UFO call in the southern
(06:04):
part of the county. I was a County policeman responded
down there an entire families swore they saw this huge
lighted object silent above their home. It was in rural
Madison County, Indiana. And I took the report, and you know,
that just intrigued me even more because these people I
(06:25):
talked to him face to face and they were sincere
wasn't a hoax, wasn't someone just trying to get into
local media. So I continue to be fascinated with that.
And when I got the CIA. You know, even though
I was traditional espionage oriented, I wasn't involved in anything
(06:45):
to do with UFOs or high technology. But something occurred
with a friend of mine there that that just continued
to intrigue me. A good friend. He's passed away now.
His name is John. We worked together and at headquarters
(07:08):
one day that an alarm went off at one of
our vaults, and because we were at the time part
of the office of Security, John said, you know, I'll
go down there and help out in case the regular
security guys are tied up.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Now, Now, what was this in Langley, Virginia, Yes, in.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Our headquarters and John got there and took care of it.
There was no forced entry or anything. But when he
came back to our unit, to our office, he was
shook a little bit and said, you know, what's wrong,
and he goes, you know, I went in the vault
and it was full of UFO related stuff and that's
(07:50):
all we'd say about it. And John was a brave man.
He was a bomb tech. Prior to CIA, it was
a race driver, and this shook him, and that kind
of shook me. You know, that John was taken aback
by whatever it was he saw. And I have no
idea whether he looked at the of the files, but
(08:12):
he saw enough that he came back and told us that.
So all that compilation of things has made me an enthusiast.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
One of the major stories in mainstream media these days
is let me see three I at Liss Comet, which
which NASA is claiming as an interstellar comment. What's your
take on that?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
If it was anything other than an interstellar commet, I
think the government would suppress that until they were more
comfortable with what the situation was. And that's just my guess,
my opinion. Only if it was something that was acting abnormally,
(08:57):
in other words, it appeared to be under conscious control,
intelligent control. I don't know that they would announce that
to the planet, especially if it looked like it might
be coming here to Earth. Having worked for the government,
I know how the government thinks, and they're extremely reticent
(09:20):
to give out information, even though in my humble personal opinion,
you know, as denizens of this planet, we we have
a right to know, especially if it's any sort of
a threat.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, in your opinion, based on your experience, not only
in law enforcement, but as a member of the intelligence community,
do you think that whatever these UFOs are, wherever they
come from, whoever they are, do you think they pose
a threat to national security?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Probably they do, whether they're terrestrial, interdimensional, somehow out of time,
or any of those scenarios. If they are so advanced
that they look at us as a lesser intellect, yeah,
(10:18):
they probably would. And Earth history teaches us what happens
when a more advanced technological civilization meets less advanced ones,
such as when the Europeans arrived in North America. So
because of that, I would be concerned a little bit
and would have to say, yeah, not only national security,
(10:40):
but the security of the planet would potentially be at
risk depending on the attitude of these beings. Now, I
think some of those sightings and some of the technologies
are our own. You know what we called at the agency,
the Five Eyes. That was the United States, Great Britain, Canada,
(11:03):
New Zealand and Australia. We were had the closest of
intelligence relationships. We possess a lot of just phenomenal technology,
which is good because we represent the pillars of Western
shirts exactly. So some things I think that people see
(11:27):
are our stuff. Is our stuff. Those things that are
not those are what would concern me as far as
you know, is that a threat?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You know?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I find it very strange that all the governments of
the world are keeping hush hush on disclosure when everything
else is upper grabs. The UFO disclosure question is very
hush hush. Nobody's breaking into anybody's data banks in order
to expose them as a as a liar to their
(12:04):
own people. How can that happen?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I think that either something so scared the governments of
the world, or it is so advantageous to them to
keep it quiet. By advantageous, I mean that government contractors,
large corporations reverse engineering this stuff would make billions of dollars,
(12:33):
and you know, that would be, in my opinion, modive
enough to keep their mouths shut about it and just
keep on with their highly profitable engineering endeavors.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You and I have to take our first break. Thanks
very much for coming on the show tonight, Philips. Great
talking to you and explanation. When we come back, will
ask Philip Humphrey some more questions. He's a retired member
of the CIA, I retied hired law enforcement officer. He's
an actor, he's a voice artist, news contributor, and he
(13:06):
is also a comedian. I don't know, Philip, you don't
look like the comedian type to me. But still waters
run deep, don't they, my friend, they do, sir. Yes,
we'll be back on the other side of the short
break as the x OWE continues. But here's truly Rob
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And welcome back for you one. This is the X Zone.
Philip Humphries is my special guest this hour, and Philip
going to the intelligent side of UFOs. Some presidents have
reported seeing UFOs, for example Jimmy Carter, and then you've
got the controversy with Eisenhower when it comes to the
(15:16):
MJ twelve papers. Let's go back to nineteen sixty four.
Was George Bush privy in your opinion to any alien
contact at the USA USAF base in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
It's my personal opinion that he probably would have been
if that incident actually occurred as it's been described. He
certainly as head of the CIA, as a director at
that time called the DNI director or the DCI Director
of Central Intelligence. Yeah, he would have known. And if
(15:56):
the stories are true about him being Majestic one, then
that would he see meant the fact that he was aware.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
A lot of people claim that just because you're president,
you don't get to know all the information because you're
there on a basically part time basis. If the President
of the United States was to ask the Director of
the CIA questions pertaining to UFOs, could the Director of
(16:31):
the CIA say, mister President, you don't have the clearance
for that, or you don't. It's in your case. It's
not a need to know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
To me personally. This is not based on any in
depth knowledge of regulations at the agency or anywhere else.
If you're the director of CIA, that means you were
appointed by the president, and if you tell that person no,
your chances of longevity in that position are very slim.
(17:04):
I would think, is it feasible that CIA ceases. The
British sis would tell their heads of state everything and
keep some things or keep something secret. Yeah, I'm sure
they keep something secret, but I think if they were
directly challenged, especially our president asked directly, he'd probably get
(17:28):
an answer. And that's just my guess.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, because a lot of the people that we've had
on the show who have military backgrounds, I have told
us this, and I'm saying, well, wait a minute, if
the President of the United States asked you a question,
why wouldn't you give it the president the answer that
he's asking a question about.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Right, And the president by virtue of being the president,
it's just like the Prime Minister of Canada. They have
the highest clearance, there's nothing that they can't. They make
the big decisions, right. So that's why to me, you know,
it just sounds phony. Not saying it is, but it
(18:13):
sounds phony to me.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And once again, I certainly respect your opinion, both as
a civilian now as well as a former member of
the CIA, and I certainly wouldn't want you to put
yourself in a situation where that any question that I
ask you would be a conflict of interest. So all
you need to say is Rob. I'd rather not answer that.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Okay, yeah, I appreciate that. See, you have a great show,
and I want to contribute the best I can do.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Well, you're doing a great job. You're doing a great job,
and I thank you for coming on. What is your
opinion of the Roswell crash of nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I believe something did in fact occur. Too many people responsible,
people not only the sheriff, but the people who ran
the local radio, state and newspaper. These people, in addition
to the rancher Brazil I think was his name, These
people I can find. I just can't think of any
(19:11):
reason why they would all collectively lie about something like that.
So yes, I think something did occur. Was it a
piece of classified technology or was it a extraterrestrial vehicle?
I don't know. I never was privty anything like that
during my intelligence career. If I had to take a
(19:34):
guess based on the things that the people described, I'd
say that it wasn't something conventional. That they did truly
see something that was potentially out of this world.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Something that's always bothered me about the entire Roswell case
is that when the base intelligence officer went to the
the debris field. He took some of the debris back
with him, but he didn't go straight to the base.
He went to his home and woke up his wife
(20:12):
and child and let them play with the the debris.
And as far as I'm concerned, and as much as
I know, is that as soon as he did that,
the chain of custody was broken, and that story should
have ended right then and there.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah, that would if I had done something like that,
I got I would have been fired. Plus, say, it
was an extraterrestrial vehicle. You have no idea what impact
handling that material could have on your loved ones exactly.
You know, only an idiot would take something that unknown
(20:52):
home and say, hey, honey, look at this.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, that was just yeah, you're right, that isn't anoma,
And it's very It puts in the question a lot of.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Things that would have been just like you or I
taking a suspect that we had handcuffed in the back
of a police cruiser when we went home to have
our lunch and say, oh, by the way, honey, we're
bringing somebody out to lunch with us, right, Yeah. President
Eisenhower seems to be prevalent in the early days of ethology.
(21:25):
There are reports that he actually met with extraterrestrials, or
he was supposedly to have met with ets. What is
your take on that and what do you know about that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I've read the accounts that his granddaughter, I believe or
great granddaughter has put out there indicating that he did
meet with an extraterrestrial emissary at a military base or
force basein I have no idea whether that is true.
(21:56):
I don't know how you would keep something like that
secret if it occurred that I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That brings up another another question I have for you
whistleblowers when they take a notath, I'm sure, like when
you took your oath as a member of the CIA,
that oath doesn't allow you to divulge anything that you're
not supposed to as a member of the CIA. If
(22:28):
in fact you did divulge information, that would put you
in a lot of problems and a lot of trouble, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
It, Yes, sir, it would, okay. The oath doesn't say,
you know, I swear to support the Constitution except when
it doesn't suit phil. You know, it's pretty binding, and
the Office of Security there the Counterintelligence Center would be
all over you if you divulge something that was classified,
(22:59):
and losing your job would be the least of things
they can do, because under the system that exists there,
they can refer you to the FBI, which jointly staffs
our Counterintelligence Center at CIA headquarters, and they can refer
you to the US Attorney and they can indicte you.
You can end up going to the slammer, depending on
(23:21):
the severity of what you breached.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So my question to you, then, sir, is when they
have these congressional hearings and somebody like David Gresh goes
up there and he, as a former member of the military,
is classified now as a whistleblower, how can he divulge
information that he took an oath to protect, and why
(23:47):
should he get any preferential treatment as a whistleblower. In
order to understand it how this works.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
The whistle blowing protections are only designed, as far as
I understand it, to protect an honest individual who sees
something that is wrong or illegal and reports it to
the proper authority. It does not include going on national
television and disclosing classified information. It never has and it
(24:16):
likely never will. If you go on television and you
talk about things that you have signed a non disclosure
agreement not to talk about, you've just opened yourself up
for the FBI to come knocking on your door and
for you to be arrested and tried and so on.
(24:39):
How the line between whistleblower and an illegal disclosure is
decided is based on the politicians that are in power,
is my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Would a whistleblower be classified as a trader.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
If they were an honor whistleblower? Not legally? I imagine
some of their coworkers may see them in that light,
depending on what they blew the whistle on. I know,
in my unit, the last thing you wanted to do
was to snitch on yours, on your colleagues. You know,
(25:20):
if you thought something was wrong, the appropriate thing is
to tell your manager, and he'll tell his manager, and
he'll tell his and it'll go up the chain, and
lots of lawyers and stuff will look at it. But
you don't, you know, run out to the to a
congressional committee or to a television reporter and start blabbering
(25:41):
about it, you know, in the open public arena.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I've got about a minute, and I'm half before I
have to go to my break up the bottom of
the hour. UAPs are now what UF always used to
be called unidentified aerial phenomena. In your opinion of let's
say one hundred reports of UAPs, in your opinion based
on your expertise, what percentage would you say are actual
(26:10):
unknown UAPs and what percentage would be unknown technology that
the that the public cannot identify.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
In my personal opinion, one or two percent maybe are
something that's not you know, conventional, that's not just a misidentification.
And out of that one or two percent, another small
small percentage would be something that might be from you know,
(26:48):
outside Earth or uh, super super advanced government technology.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
You and I have to take our break. Flee stand by.
Philip Humphries is our guest ex ownation, and the Philip
and I will returned on the other side of this
break talking more about the strange, the weird, the bizarre.
And I'm not talking about women I've known in the past.
I'm talking about the weird, the strange, the bizarre. Wait
a minute, that's the same thing. What was her name? No,
(27:15):
I can't remember it now, Philip, thanks for being with
us and We'll be back as the X Zone continues
with yours Tirley. Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada. Whatever you do, don't
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Philip Humphries is our special guest this our examination. He
is a former I retired officer with the Central Intelligence Agency.
He is a former police officer in Indiana and he
is an actor voice talent, on air personality, comedian, news contributor.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
And.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
How do you get time to do anything? You've got
so many things on the on the go at any
given time.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
It's it's not all that difficult, not in all that high.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
A demand, not yet anyway. Come on, you're still young.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, I'm a new guy. I used to
do the stand up comedy in Milwaukee. I did about
five shows. I went through a couple of training courses,
and that took up some time, developing the sets and
then of course going to the appearances. But I've taken
a step away from that to focus on the acting.
(29:56):
And with today's technology, my agent sends me something that's
say it's a commercial. They give you the script, here's
what we want you to do. I go into this
little studio I've got set up, and I film myself
saying the lines they want. It goes to my agent.
My agent gives it to the client, and if they're interested,
(30:18):
they contact you. So it's a lot quicker than it
used to be. I don't have to travel out to
a studio, you know, and and do a live audition.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Coming into the last segment, I was playing a bigfoot
promo song that we did. What's your take on bigfoot encryptids?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
My only issue with that. I'm not saying that everyone
that reports seeing somethings or not, but my only issue
on that is why is there zero evidence? Spoken like,
you know, there's just nothing? And I find that extraord
narrowly difficult to buy.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, so do I. People ask me why I keep
doing this show. You say, Rob, you sound like a skeptic.
It's not that I'm a skeptic. I want to believe,
but in order for me to believe, I need to
see evidence. Where's the cadaver? Or is that lady in
the old Wendy's commercial would say, where's the beef?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Precisely? Yeah, there's just nothing ever presented other than some
fuzzy photographs that could be faked, you know. So it's
the same kind of with the UFOs. How come every
photograph of them are fuzzy and at a distance. You
(31:43):
know we have I'm I don't want to not believe
because I'm intrigued by the subjects of cryptids and bigfoot
UFOs and all that. But being the former cop, yeah,
I need the evidence. You can't just say yeah I
saw and you know.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Speaking about the photographs. An interesting survey has shown that
since the advent of higher technology, like for example, in
our cell phones, now we've got great, great cameras, UFO
photos have decreased.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Makes sense to me because you can't fake them anymore
as easily as before. Nowadays, if you have a smartphone,
something's above your head, you can take a nice picture
of it and blow that picture up because I've got
zoom on my phone, as does everyone.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Plus there you don't see that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Plus there is software out there that's available that will
compress the pixels so that even if it does appear
pixelated at your at your furthest zoom out point, you
run it through this software and it just compresses the
pixel to give you a beautiful, clear picture.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Right, And yet we still don't have any of bigfoot
or blind saucers u a ps what everyone want to
call them, you know. And that's that's just the cop
in me, as you as you said, you know, without
that evidence, I just can't I can't roll with that one.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, neither neither can I. But it's just like alien abductions.
People tell these stories about being abducted by aliens and
now then they tie in sleep paralysis. And there's so
much that goes into a case of of alien abduction
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that you see, how the hell is this happening? You know,
I've heard stories. I've had people on the show who
tell me that they've been abducted from their beds. They go,
they're they're brought to it a UFO through the ceiling,
being escorted by little gray aliens. They go on board
the mother ship, and they're even allowed sometimes to get
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behind the controls, and everything is controlled by the mind.
And then I ask a very simple question, well, did
you think of bringing some proof back with you? No,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Anyone living in a twenty first century would know that
just saying it and not presenting any proof whatsoever, you're
going to be left at and just make a fool
of yourself.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And yet there's the other side of me that thinks, well,
how do I know that this person really didn't have
the experience and they were in such shock and awe
that bringing something back to prove what they saw or
said they experienced was the first thing on their mind.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
And it's little things like that that keep us interested
in this subject.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
That is so true, That is so very true. I
had a Captain Robert Sallas on the show a number
of years ago who was one of the launch launch
officer at the mouse from Air Force Base in where's
malfs From Air Force Base anyway.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
It's Montana, Wyoming, Yeah, somewhere up there.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And he was and he was saying, and he sticks
to the story that UFOs actually hovered over the over
the silos and disabled a bunch of nukes. And I say, Okay,
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that's really strange, especially since it didn't happen at any
other missile silo area. Number one. Number two, if it
did happen, why are you telling us? And number three?
Is it possible that what happened was actually an EMF
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craft that used an electromagnetic force to shut things down?
And if it is, we're not as secure as we
thought we are.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That's true. And electromagnetic technology has existed for a long time,
and you know it could it have been in the
government testing against itself. Yeah, but to do that at
a nuclear weapon site, that boggles my mind. That and
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for it to be a one off, like you said,
why just particular one.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
It?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
You know, that's one of those where I won't say
the guy's line but I don't ticket on face value
as being truthful.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
How about the camera footage of the tik tac.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
That could easily be just advanced technology that we own
that the West owns. I suppose the Chinese and the
Russians may well have similar technologies. That's my guess. I
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don't know, but if I were to hazard a guess,
I'd say that's highly advanced classified technology. I could be wrong,
but that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I agree with you, I really do. My question is is,
if you have these interceptors, these fighters that are playing
war games, it's a lack of better words, why weren't
these interceptors armed? Why would you send craft out to
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intercept a bogie when they're unarmed?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You wouldn't, In my opinion, logic would dictate that you
would not do that. It would be asinine.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Unless unless there were those in the higher commandatory knew
exactly what this was and the last thing they needed
was somebody shooting down one of their top secret technologies.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yep. That would be an explanation, and I would buy
that explanation.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Where do you think where do you think artificial intelligence
is going to come into place? When we talk about
investigating the world of the paranormal.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I'm not a fan of AI. I think it's a
It poses a threat to humankind if it's allowed to
get to the advance point where it is so much
more intelligent than we are that it could literally have its.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Way, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
And I think that writers that use AI to write
their material are cheating. That actors that use AI to
assist I think it's not art for him anymore. It's
just technology. So, you know, I agreed with the sag
Aftra Acting Unit Union's efforts to keep AI tamped down
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a little bit. I think it has its uses, and
I understand that the West has to have at least
as good an AI as our potential strategic opponents. So
I'm not saying we shouldn't develop it for that. But
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AI it bugs me. It scares me a little bit.
I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
It's going to put a lot of people out of work.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
And that's the other thing. Why in the world would
you do something like that just because you can? You know,
I just don't agree with it.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I can see we're in manufacturing. I could be an asset.
I know that when General Motors, another auto manufacturers used
started using robotics, that the quality of the product increased
and the number of the workforce decreased, therefore increasing the
profit line of the company. And I've got a very
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good friend of mine who used to work at GYM
until his job was taken over by robots.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Money is typically the bottom lines, typically the bottom line.
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
It is, and that is the truth. You and I
have to take our final break, my friend. By gosh,
this hour is going fast. Phil Comfrey is our special
guest Exonination, and when we come back, I'm going to
ask him if you could do a little bit of
comedy for us. He put a big smile on his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
come on, this is my time. You're listening to the
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This is the ex Zone, and we'll be back as
we wrap up this hour from our broadcast center in
studios in a little place on the shores of Lake
Ontario called Saint Catharinees. We'll be back ounkaway.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
From Newfoundland shoals to the peaks so grand we walked together,
united in this land, every culture, every heart, a story
to unfold in this living tapestry. Our pride is bold.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
With the weed fields wave and under sky so wid
we carry within.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Well, it just got back from Roswell, where the aliens
have been. And if you ask the fence the calls, well,
they'll only lie again. Now I'm hunted by the gum shoots,
and I'm hunted by the cops because they think that
I might be the guy making circles in the crys.
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And I know that there's a conspiracy from the voices
in my head Elvis lives. That's clear to me. It's
McCartney who is dead. And if the mars Man should
come again and take me, I will go. I will
take a trip on their rocket ship. God blessed the
Ufore give JFK this message. It's the Cuban arm his fault,
(43:06):
and I know that Dave Koresh is alive inside the fault.
We've seen reports in papers of the guy who knows
about what car that runs on chewing gum. But the
Arabs were robbed him out loudly one that America is
(43:27):
badly hung redpad with the Cold War, though, we need
something new that.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
They get you good and scare you.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Wonder just who is warning you of conspiracies today?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
We're the ones who filled the room.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
We are see.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
There you go, Philip. That was just for you and
my friend Philip Humphrey is our special guest. I just
wanted to chat with you a few minutes on some
other objects before we get to the comedy aspect of
that of your world. We're quantum mechanics. Where is quantum
(44:15):
mechanics in the world of not only of the world
of UFOs and the para normals, but in everyday life.
Where does it come to play and how? In your opinion,
is the findings based on quantum mechanics going to change
our history?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Well, if the theories of entanglement are and superposition are accurate,
it's going to completely change our technologies in computing, potentially
in travel, in communication. I think it's going to have
(44:58):
a massive impact. Quantum mechanics have been around for a
long time. Uh, Doctor Plank, who considered the father of that,
you know, worked for the German regime during World War Two.
A lot of people think that the the bell that
the Germans were developing was you know, utilizing Plank's knowledge
(45:23):
of quantum physics. So yeah, without being a scientist, I
can't get down in the weeds. But I think that
even if you have a basic understanding like entanglement, we're
a particle here in another particle light years away, instantly
react to each other, you can you can visualize sort
of what that could imply for future technology.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
How about the Lunar conspiracy? In your opinion, did America
really land on the Moon or was that all a
big hopes?
Speaker 5 (45:57):
I think we did. I mean, overflights by more recent
spacecraft that have orbited the Moon have seen the landing
apparatus still there on the surface. Could that be fake?
I don't know, maybe, but I think that we did
do it. If we didn't do it, why would all
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of our strategic opponents just let the lie exist? You
know they would have jumped right on that. Yeah. No,
the Americans are lying. They didn't do it. And here's why.
So I think we did it.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Couldn't we put that same line of reasoning to the
UFO field, where if the United States had information that
they're suppressing about UFOs, that our adversaries would find that
information and spread it far and wide and say, see
the Americans are lying again.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
It could Yes, that's possible unless they're also benefiting from
their own research programs. Uh, that's enhancing their capabilities. But yeah,
I mean, uh, some of the stuff that comes out,
whether it's Bigfoot or flying saucers landing on the people's
lawns and abducting them and whatever, you know, is in
(47:18):
my period opinion, just crap. But you know, you you
you know how it is being a street cop. You mean,
you run across all kinds of stuff and all kinds
of stories, and and you start to become, you know,
pretty hardened as a cynic. I have to actually work
(47:40):
on not being too cynical. But but yeah, it's feasible.
Anything's feasible, But you got to look at the at
it and go is it likely?
Speaker 4 (47:53):
You know, do you know anything about project in k Ultra.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
I've heard of it, About the use of LSD and
mind control stuff. Wasn't my area. My area was really
traditional espionage. My job was to provide access to denied
areas pure and simple. We want to get something out
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of a particular structure or a particular space. My job
was to get us in and get us out surreptitiously.
And that's where the Canadians came in. The RCMP and
the Cesis were the ones who taught me how to
do that and not get caught. The mk Ultra stuff
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had it, if it is in fact totally accurate, would
have not involved me or any of the people I
worked around.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
If somebody came to you and said, Philip, I heard
your interview on the X Zone, I want to be well,
I want to join the CIA, what would you tell them?
Speaker 5 (49:13):
They can go online and www dot CIA dot gov
and they put their recruitment information right out there and
it tells you what jobs are open and what you
need to do to make an initial application. It's that
simple nowadays.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Is it a career that you would recommend.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
If they want to live a Hollywood movie? In some instances, yeah,
it's very It's just like law enforcement. It has its ups,
it has the stanns, you know, and like any organization,
not everyone working there is a nice person. And you've
got your bozos there, just like you do in law
enforcement or any other profession. But all in all, it's
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a great adventure.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Yeah, used to call the the well. The real name
for a bozo, as far as we were concerned, was
a corporal because because he was just a little smarter
than a constable, but not smart enough to be a sergeant.
All right, tell us a little bit about your comedy career,
because I've got less than five minutes now, all right.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
Well, all of it, all of it, meaning my five
shows that I've done total were in bars that had
comedy clubs. So the ninety nine point nine percent of
the material I did is not suitable for over the air.
But one of the sets I started out with this
(50:43):
and it is clean and so it can go on
your show. A neighbor told me the other day that
the President's program saying that we are lacking in America
and education is absolutely true, and I said, oh, really, well,
why would you say? He goes Well, the other day
my teenage son was heading out the door to go
(51:05):
to go to school, and I stopped him. I gave
him a five dollar bill. I said, here, this is
for your lunch, and I can't ate it. So I'm
pretty sure that maybe the President's got a point there.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
My favorite bar joke is two guys sitting at a bar.
One guy says to that guy says, you know, I'm
really lucky, and the guy sitting again the cross room
and says, why is that? He says, well, you know what,
my mother in law's are real angel. The other guy
put down his drink and he says, you sure our
mind's still alive?
Speaker 5 (51:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (51:38):
What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Ah? The amount of beer one less drunk fire. I
knew it had to be something with that.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, before we go, has what you've seen after
your your career in the in the CIA, have you
found it to help you when you're you're looking into
the paranormal, the strange, the weird, the bizarre.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
Yes, because it gave me additional critical thinking skills on
top of what I'd already developed as a as a
street cop. My entire police career was as a street cop.
I sergeant was the level that I got to, so
I was still out on the streets and CIA just
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enhanced some of the critical thinking skills I developed there.
So yeah, it definitely helps me.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
When you're growing up in your younger years, did you
ever imagine that you would have accomplished what you have
accomplished at this point in your life. No.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
I grew up in a little town of five thousand
or so in north central Indiana, and I was, like
most kids, a television enthusiast, and I wanted to be
like you know, John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart and all
the people you saw on there and live a life
of adventure. But I didn't envision the specifics of what
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that might be. So no, I had no clue what
I was going.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
To be doing over the years as a police officer,
as a and an officer within the CIA, voice artist,
media person, comedian. What has been the highlight, the top
highlight of your life so far?
Speaker 5 (53:35):
My CIA career, probably because it exposed me to the world.
Some of the finest people on the planet that I
met were in law enforcement. They were the cops I
worked with. But CIA gave me world travel, and you know,
about two percent or less of CIA applicants actually are
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taking on board. So for a small town kid from
Indiana that didn't have an Ivy League college degree, it
was probably the pinnacle of accomplishment for me. And I
met my wife there, who was also a CIA of.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Oh really wonderful. Yes, she was an.
Speaker 5 (54:19):
Expert on financial crime, so and following the money, which
is the same way you catch crooks, same way you
catch spies.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
So you've got to make sure that the budget balance
is at home.
Speaker 5 (54:29):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, she's always watching.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Well. Once again, thank you for your service. It's been
a great, great hour talking to you. Are you going
to be writing a book about your life?
Speaker 5 (54:46):
My wife actually asked me that I think it'd be
a great book. I I might someday. Right now, I'm
focused on getting a job in radio or on television
or you know, in that realm, and it's kind of
consumes my focus right now. And I've spent a lot
of money getting the training and getting an agent and
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all that. But yeah, I wouldn't mind writing it someday.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Thank you so much for being with us, Philip, take
care of yourself and to you and your family. If
I don't have the opportunity of speaking to you in
the near future, the very best of the season to you,
and nothing but the best in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
Six and the same to you and yours.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Have a nice days, all right, x O nation. Our
guest this hour has been Philip Humphreys or Guy. We'll
be back on the other side of this break as
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My guest this hour is Philip Humphrees. He is a
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news contributor and retired member of the Central Intelligence Agency.
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Joining me now is a Philip Humphrees and Philip parkom
to the X Zone.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Thank you, sir, glad to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Tell us a little bit about yourself. You've got quite
a career spanning from media to the CIA. How did
you go from CIA to media or was it media
to CIA?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Actually it was CIA to media. About a year or
so before I retired from CIA, I was asked to
do a an internal training film and I did, and
I did pretty well, and I kind of liked it.
So after I got out and retired, I thought well,
you know, maybe I'll give the entertainment industry a shot.
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And that's how it all started.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
As a member of the CIA, where were you posted?
Were you a contractor or were you a CIA officer?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I was a staff officer, an actual employee of CIA.
I have a government pension. I was assigned a variety
of places. Actually I was home based in Washington, d C.
At our Virginia headquarters, and we have several outbuildings in
that northern Virginia area, and I worked out of two
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or three of those at one time or another. And
then I did a number of rotations overseas. Length to
time varied depending on where we were going and what
we were doing. But I probably worked in i'd say
a dozen countries and have been around the world.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
You've been around the world a couple of times, I
would imagine.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, it was for a kid from small town Indiana,
it was quite the adventure.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, thank you for your service. I know the CIA
does a very important job in maintaining peace and freedom
around the world.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So thank you, sir, Thank you very much. Oddly enough,
I was trained by CEESS.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Oh Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yep, they were We met in a southern US State,
and they were my formal trainers because the relationship between
the agencies is so close, as it.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Very well should be. What's your outlook on the present
situation around the world right now compared to when you
were a CIA officer.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It's still volatile. I mean, there's hope for Eastern Europe
and for the Ukraine and the Russian Federation to solve
their issues. And you know, the Islamist terrorist thing, it's
still going. It was when I was there and it
still is now. And I don't think any politician is
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going to wave a wand and make that go away
anytime soon. The world's essentially, you know, about the same
as it was when I was working at A few
things have changed, but overall it's the same old planet.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
For now. Anyway, where did your interest in ufozts and
the Strange and the Bazaar come from?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I actually was interested. Even as a kid. I thought
UFO the concept of aliens visiting Earth was just fascinating
to me. And then when I got into law enforcement,
which was my first professional career prior to CIA, I
you know, I got a UFO call in the southern
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part of the county. I was a County policeman responded
down there an entire families swore they saw this huge
lighted object silent above their home. It was in rural
Madison County, Indiana. And I took the report, and you know,
that just intrigued me even more because these people I
(06:25):
talked to him face to face and they were sincere
wasn't a hoax, wasn't someone just trying to get into
local media. So I continue to be fascinated with that.
And when I got the CIA. You know, even though
I was traditional espionage oriented, I wasn't involved in anything
(06:45):
to do with UFOs or high technology. But something occurred
with a friend of mine there that that just continued
to intrigue me. A good friend. He's passed away now.
His name is John. We worked together and at headquarters
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one day that an alarm went off at one of
our vaults, and because we were at the time part
of the office of Security, John said, you know, I'll
go down there and help out in case the regular
security guys are tied up.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Now, Now, what was this in Langley, Virginia, Yes, in.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Our headquarters and John got there and took care of it.
There was no forced entry or anything. But when he
came back to our unit, to our office, he was
shook a little bit and said, you know, what's wrong,
and he goes, you know, I went in the vault
and it was full of UFO related stuff and that's
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all we'd say about it. And John was a brave man.
He was a bomb tech. Prior to CIA, it was
a race driver, and this shook him, and that kind
of shook me. You know, that John was taken aback
by whatever it was he saw. And I have no
idea whether he looked at the of the files, but
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he saw enough that he came back and told us that.
So all that compilation of things has made me an enthusiast.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
One of the major stories in mainstream media these days
is let me see three I at Liss Comet, which
which NASA is claiming as an interstellar comment. What's your
take on that?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
If it was anything other than an interstellar commet, I
think the government would suppress that until they were more
comfortable with what the situation was. And that's just my guess,
my opinion. Only if it was something that was acting abnormally,
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in other words, it appeared to be under conscious control,
intelligent control. I don't know that they would announce that
to the planet, especially if it looked like it might
be coming here to Earth. Having worked for the government,
I know how the government thinks, and they're extremely reticent
(09:20):
to give out information, even though in my humble personal opinion,
you know, as denizens of this planet, we we have
a right to know, especially if it's any sort of
a threat.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, in your opinion, based on your experience, not only
in law enforcement, but as a member of the intelligence community,
do you think that whatever these UFOs are, wherever they
come from, whoever they are, do you think they pose
a threat to national security?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Probably they do, whether they're terrestrial, interdimensional, somehow out of time,
or any of those scenarios. If they are so advanced
that they look at us as a lesser intellect, yeah,
(10:18):
they probably would. And Earth history teaches us what happens
when a more advanced technological civilization meets less advanced ones,
such as when the Europeans arrived in North America. So
because of that, I would be concerned a little bit
and would have to say, yeah, not only national security,
(10:40):
but the security of the planet would potentially be at
risk depending on the attitude of these beings. Now, I
think some of those sightings and some of the technologies
are our own. You know what we called at the agency,
the Five Eyes. That was the United States, Great Britain, Canada,
(11:03):
New Zealand and Australia. We were had the closest of
intelligence relationships. We possess a lot of just phenomenal technology,
which is good because we represent the pillars of Western
shirts exactly. So some things I think that people see
(11:27):
are our stuff. Is our stuff. Those things that are
not those are what would concern me as far as
you know, is that a threat?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
You know?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I find it very strange that all the governments of
the world are keeping hush hush on disclosure when everything
else is upper grabs. The UFO disclosure question is very
hush hush. Nobody's breaking into anybody's data banks in order
to expose them as a as a liar to their
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own people. How can that happen?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I think that either something so scared the governments of
the world, or it is so advantageous to them to
keep it quiet. By advantageous, I mean that government contractors,
large corporations reverse engineering this stuff would make billions of dollars,
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and you know, that would be, in my opinion, modive
enough to keep their mouths shut about it and just
keep on with their highly profitable engineering endeavors.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You and I have to take our first break. Thanks
very much for coming on the show tonight, Philips. Great
talking to you and explanation. When we come back, will
ask Philip Humphrey some more questions. He's a retired member
of the CIA, I retied hired law enforcement officer. He's
an actor, he's a voice artist, news contributor, and he
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is also a comedian. I don't know, Philip, you don't
look like the comedian type to me. But still waters
run deep, don't they, my friend, they do, sir. Yes,
we'll be back on the other side of the short
break as the x OWE continues. But here's truly Rob
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And welcome back for you one. This is the X Zone.
Philip Humphries is my special guest this hour, and Philip
going to the intelligent side of UFOs. Some presidents have
reported seeing UFOs, for example Jimmy Carter, and then you've
got the controversy with Eisenhower when it comes to the
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MJ twelve papers. Let's go back to nineteen sixty four.
Was George Bush privy in your opinion to any alien
contact at the USA USAF base in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
It's my personal opinion that he probably would have been
if that incident actually occurred as it's been described. He
certainly as head of the CIA, as a director at
that time called the DNI director or the DCI Director
of Central Intelligence. Yeah, he would have known. And if
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the stories are true about him being Majestic one, then
that would he see meant the fact that he was aware.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
A lot of people claim that just because you're president,
you don't get to know all the information because you're
there on a basically part time basis. If the President
of the United States was to ask the Director of
the CIA questions pertaining to UFOs, could the Director of
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the CIA say, mister President, you don't have the clearance
for that, or you don't. It's in your case. It's
not a need to know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
To me personally. This is not based on any in
depth knowledge of regulations at the agency or anywhere else.
If you're the director of CIA, that means you were
appointed by the president, and if you tell that person no,
your chances of longevity in that position are very slim.
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I would think, is it feasible that CIA ceases. The
British sis would tell their heads of state everything and
keep some things or keep something secret. Yeah, I'm sure
they keep something secret, but I think if they were
directly challenged, especially our president asked directly, he'd probably get
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an answer. And that's just my guess.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, because a lot of the people that we've had
on the show who have military backgrounds, I have told
us this, and I'm saying, well, wait a minute, if
the President of the United States asked you a question,
why wouldn't you give it the president the answer that
he's asking a question about.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Right, And the president by virtue of being the president,
it's just like the Prime Minister of Canada. They have
the highest clearance, there's nothing that they can't. They make
the big decisions, right. So that's why to me, you know,
it just sounds phony. Not saying it is, but it
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sounds phony to me.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And once again, I certainly respect your opinion, both as
a civilian now as well as a former member of
the CIA, and I certainly wouldn't want you to put
yourself in a situation where that any question that I
ask you would be a conflict of interest. So all
you need to say is Rob. I'd rather not answer that.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Okay, yeah, I appreciate that. See, you have a great show,
and I want to contribute the best I can do.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Well, you're doing a great job. You're doing a great job,
and I thank you for coming on. What is your
opinion of the Roswell crash of nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I believe something did in fact occur. Too many people responsible,
people not only the sheriff, but the people who ran
the local radio, state and newspaper. These people, in addition
to the rancher Brazil I think was his name, These
people I can find. I just can't think of any
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reason why they would all collectively lie about something like that.
So yes, I think something did occur. Was it a
piece of classified technology or was it a extraterrestrial vehicle?
I don't know. I never was privty anything like that
during my intelligence career. If I had to take a
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guess based on the things that the people described, I'd
say that it wasn't something conventional. That they did truly
see something that was potentially out of this world.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Something that's always bothered me about the entire Roswell case
is that when the base intelligence officer went to the
the debris field. He took some of the debris back
with him, but he didn't go straight to the base.
He went to his home and woke up his wife
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and child and let them play with the the debris.
And as far as I'm concerned, and as much as
I know, is that as soon as he did that,
the chain of custody was broken, and that story should
have ended right then and there.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah, that would if I had done something like that,
I got I would have been fired. Plus, say, it
was an extraterrestrial vehicle. You have no idea what impact
handling that material could have on your loved ones exactly.
You know, only an idiot would take something that unknown
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home and say, hey, honey, look at this.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, that was just yeah, you're right, that isn't anoma,
And it's very It puts in the question a lot of.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Things that would have been just like you or I
taking a suspect that we had handcuffed in the back
of a police cruiser when we went home to have
our lunch and say, oh, by the way, honey, we're
bringing somebody out to lunch with us, right, Yeah. President
Eisenhower seems to be prevalent in the early days of ethology.
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There are reports that he actually met with extraterrestrials, or
he was supposedly to have met with ets. What is
your take on that and what do you know about that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I've read the accounts that his granddaughter, I believe or
great granddaughter has put out there indicating that he did
meet with an extraterrestrial emissary at a military base or
force basein I have no idea whether that is true.
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I don't know how you would keep something like that
secret if it occurred that I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That brings up another another question I have for you
whistleblowers when they take a notath, I'm sure, like when
you took your oath as a member of the CIA,
that oath doesn't allow you to divulge anything that you're
not supposed to as a member of the CIA. If
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in fact you did divulge information, that would put you
in a lot of problems and a lot of trouble, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
It, Yes, sir, it would, okay. The oath doesn't say,
you know, I swear to support the Constitution except when
it doesn't suit phil. You know, it's pretty binding, and
the Office of Security there the Counterintelligence Center would be
all over you if you divulge something that was classified,
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and losing your job would be the least of things
they can do, because under the system that exists there,
they can refer you to the FBI, which jointly staffs
our Counterintelligence Center at CIA headquarters, and they can refer
you to the US Attorney and they can indicte you.
You can end up going to the slammer, depending on
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the severity of what you breached.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So my question to you, then, sir, is when they
have these congressional hearings and somebody like David Gresh goes
up there and he, as a former member of the military,
is classified now as a whistleblower, how can he divulge
information that he took an oath to protect, and why
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should he get any preferential treatment as a whistleblower. In
order to understand it how this works.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
The whistle blowing protections are only designed, as far as
I understand it, to protect an honest individual who sees
something that is wrong or illegal and reports it to
the proper authority. It does not include going on national
television and disclosing classified information. It never has and it
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likely never will. If you go on television and you
talk about things that you have signed a non disclosure
agreement not to talk about, you've just opened yourself up
for the FBI to come knocking on your door and
for you to be arrested and tried and so on.
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How the line between whistleblower and an illegal disclosure is
decided is based on the politicians that are in power,
is my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Would a whistleblower be classified as a trader.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
If they were an honor whistleblower? Not legally? I imagine
some of their coworkers may see them in that light,
depending on what they blew the whistle on. I know,
in my unit, the last thing you wanted to do
was to snitch on yours, on your colleagues. You know,
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if you thought something was wrong, the appropriate thing is
to tell your manager, and he'll tell his manager, and
he'll tell his and it'll go up the chain, and
lots of lawyers and stuff will look at it. But
you don't, you know, run out to the to a
congressional committee or to a television reporter and start blabbering
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about it, you know, in the open public arena.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I've got about a minute, and I'm half before I
have to go to my break up the bottom of
the hour. UAPs are now what UF always used to
be called unidentified aerial phenomena. In your opinion of let's
say one hundred reports of UAPs, in your opinion based
on your expertise, what percentage would you say are actual
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unknown UAPs and what percentage would be unknown technology that
the that the public cannot identify.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
In my personal opinion, one or two percent maybe are
something that's not you know, conventional, that's not just a misidentification.
And out of that one or two percent, another small
small percentage would be something that might be from you know,
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outside Earth or uh, super super advanced government technology.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
You and I have to take our break. Flee stand by.
Philip Humphries is our guest ex ownation, and the Philip
and I will returned on the other side of this
break talking more about the strange, the weird, the bizarre.
And I'm not talking about women I've known in the past.
I'm talking about the weird, the strange, the bizarre. Wait
a minute, that's the same thing. What was her name? No,
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I can't remember it now, Philip, thanks for being with
us and We'll be back as the X Zone continues
with yours Tirley. Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada. Whatever you do, don't
go away, We'll be right back.
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Speaker 4 (28:54):
Philip Humphries is our special guest this our examination. He
is a former I retired officer with the Central Intelligence Agency.
He is a former police officer in Indiana and he
is an actor voice talent, on air personality, comedian, news contributor.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
And.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
How do you get time to do anything? You've got
so many things on the on the go at any
given time.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
It's it's not all that difficult, not in all that high.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
A demand, not yet anyway. Come on, you're still young.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, I'm a new guy. I used to
do the stand up comedy in Milwaukee. I did about
five shows. I went through a couple of training courses,
and that took up some time, developing the sets and
then of course going to the appearances. But I've taken
a step away from that to focus on the acting.
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And with today's technology, my agent sends me something that's
say it's a commercial. They give you the script, here's
what we want you to do. I go into this
little studio I've got set up, and I film myself
saying the lines they want. It goes to my agent.
My agent gives it to the client, and if they're interested,
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they contact you. So it's a lot quicker than it
used to be. I don't have to travel out to
a studio, you know, and and do a live audition.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Coming into the last segment, I was playing a bigfoot
promo song that we did. What's your take on bigfoot encryptids?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
My only issue with that. I'm not saying that everyone
that reports seeing somethings or not, but my only issue
on that is why is there zero evidence? Spoken like,
you know, there's just nothing? And I find that extraord
narrowly difficult to buy.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, so do I. People ask me why I keep
doing this show. You say, Rob, you sound like a skeptic.
It's not that I'm a skeptic. I want to believe,
but in order for me to believe, I need to
see evidence. Where's the cadaver? Or is that lady in
the old Wendy's commercial would say, where's the beef?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Precisely? Yeah, there's just nothing ever presented other than some
fuzzy photographs that could be faked, you know. So it's
the same kind of with the UFOs. How come every
photograph of them are fuzzy and at a distance. You
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know we have I'm I don't want to not believe
because I'm intrigued by the subjects of cryptids and bigfoot
UFOs and all that. But being the former cop, yeah,
I need the evidence. You can't just say yeah I
saw and you know.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Speaking about the photographs. An interesting survey has shown that
since the advent of higher technology, like for example, in
our cell phones, now we've got great, great cameras, UFO
photos have decreased.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Makes sense to me because you can't fake them anymore
as easily as before. Nowadays, if you have a smartphone,
something's above your head, you can take a nice picture
of it and blow that picture up because I've got
zoom on my phone, as does everyone.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Plus there you don't see that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Plus there is software out there that's available that will
compress the pixels so that even if it does appear
pixelated at your at your furthest zoom out point, you
run it through this software and it just compresses the
pixel to give you a beautiful, clear picture.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Right, And yet we still don't have any of bigfoot
or blind saucers u a ps what everyone want to
call them, you know. And that's that's just the cop
in me, as you as you said, you know, without
that evidence, I just can't I can't roll with that one.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, neither neither can I. But it's just like alien abductions.
People tell these stories about being abducted by aliens and
now then they tie in sleep paralysis. And there's so
much that goes into a case of of alien abduction
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that you see, how the hell is this happening? You know,
I've heard stories. I've had people on the show who
tell me that they've been abducted from their beds. They go,
they're they're brought to it a UFO through the ceiling,
being escorted by little gray aliens. They go on board
the mother ship, and they're even allowed sometimes to get
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behind the controls, and everything is controlled by the mind.
And then I ask a very simple question, well, did
you think of bringing some proof back with you? No,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Anyone living in a twenty first century would know that
just saying it and not presenting any proof whatsoever, you're
going to be left at and just make a fool
of yourself.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And yet there's the other side of me that thinks, well,
how do I know that this person really didn't have
the experience and they were in such shock and awe
that bringing something back to prove what they saw or
said they experienced was the first thing on their mind.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
And it's little things like that that keep us interested
in this subject.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
That is so true, That is so very true. I
had a Captain Robert Sallas on the show a number
of years ago who was one of the launch launch
officer at the mouse from Air Force Base in where's
malfs From Air Force Base anyway.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
It's Montana, Wyoming, Yeah, somewhere up there.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And he was and he was saying, and he sticks
to the story that UFOs actually hovered over the over
the silos and disabled a bunch of nukes. And I say, Okay,
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that's really strange, especially since it didn't happen at any
other missile silo area. Number one. Number two, if it
did happen, why are you telling us? And number three?
Is it possible that what happened was actually an EMF
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craft that used an electromagnetic force to shut things down?
And if it is, we're not as secure as we
thought we are.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That's true. And electromagnetic technology has existed for a long time,
and you know it could it have been in the
government testing against itself. Yeah, but to do that at
a nuclear weapon site, that boggles my mind. That and
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for it to be a one off, like you said,
why just particular one.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
It?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
You know, that's one of those where I won't say
the guy's line but I don't ticket on face value
as being truthful.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
How about the camera footage of the tik tac.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
That could easily be just advanced technology that we own
that the West owns. I suppose the Chinese and the
Russians may well have similar technologies. That's my guess. I
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don't know, but if I were to hazard a guess,
I'd say that's highly advanced classified technology. I could be wrong,
but that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I agree with you, I really do. My question is is,
if you have these interceptors, these fighters that are playing
war games, it's a lack of better words, why weren't
these interceptors armed? Why would you send craft out to
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intercept a bogie when they're unarmed?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You wouldn't, In my opinion, logic would dictate that you
would not do that. It would be asinine.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Unless unless there were those in the higher commandatory knew
exactly what this was and the last thing they needed
was somebody shooting down one of their top secret technologies.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yep. That would be an explanation, and I would buy
that explanation.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Where do you think where do you think artificial intelligence
is going to come into place? When we talk about
investigating the world of the paranormal.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I'm not a fan of AI. I think it's a
It poses a threat to humankind if it's allowed to
get to the advance point where it is so much
more intelligent than we are that it could literally have its.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Way, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
And I think that writers that use AI to write
their material are cheating. That actors that use AI to
assist I think it's not art for him anymore. It's
just technology. So, you know, I agreed with the sag
Aftra Acting Unit Union's efforts to keep AI tamped down
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a little bit. I think it has its uses, and
I understand that the West has to have at least
as good an AI as our potential strategic opponents. So
I'm not saying we shouldn't develop it for that. But
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AI it bugs me. It scares me a little bit.
I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
It's going to put a lot of people out of work.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
And that's the other thing. Why in the world would
you do something like that just because you can? You know,
I just don't agree with it.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I can see we're in manufacturing. I could be an asset.
I know that when General Motors, another auto manufacturers used
started using robotics, that the quality of the product increased
and the number of the workforce decreased, therefore increasing the
profit line of the company. And I've got a very
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good friend of mine who used to work at GYM
until his job was taken over by robots.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Money is typically the bottom lines, typically the bottom line.
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
It is, and that is the truth. You and I
have to take our final break, my friend. By gosh,
this hour is going fast. Phil Comfrey is our special
guest Exonination, and when we come back, I'm going to
ask him if you could do a little bit of
comedy for us. He put a big smile on his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
come on, this is my time. You're listening to the
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This is the ex Zone, and we'll be back as
we wrap up this hour from our broadcast center in
studios in a little place on the shores of Lake
Ontario called Saint Catharinees. We'll be back ounkaway.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
From Newfoundland shoals to the peaks so grand we walked together,
united in this land, every culture, every heart, a story
to unfold in this living tapestry. Our pride is bold.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
With the weed fields wave and under sky so wid
we carry within.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Well, it just got back from Roswell, where the aliens
have been. And if you ask the fence the calls, well,
they'll only lie again. Now I'm hunted by the gum shoots,
and I'm hunted by the cops because they think that
I might be the guy making circles in the crys.
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And I know that there's a conspiracy from the voices
in my head Elvis lives. That's clear to me. It's
McCartney who is dead. And if the mars Man should
come again and take me, I will go. I will
take a trip on their rocket ship. God blessed the
Ufore give JFK this message. It's the Cuban arm his fault,
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and I know that Dave Koresh is alive inside the fault.
We've seen reports in papers of the guy who knows
about what car that runs on chewing gum. But the
Arabs were robbed him out loudly one that America is
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badly hung redpad with the Cold War, though, we need
something new that.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
They get you good and scare you.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Wonder just who is warning you of conspiracies today?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
We're the ones who filled the room.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
We are see.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
There you go, Philip. That was just for you and
my friend Philip Humphrey is our special guest. I just
wanted to chat with you a few minutes on some
other objects before we get to the comedy aspect of
that of your world. We're quantum mechanics. Where is quantum
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mechanics in the world of not only of the world
of UFOs and the para normals, but in everyday life.
Where does it come to play and how? In your opinion,
is the findings based on quantum mechanics going to change
our history?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Well, if the theories of entanglement are and superposition are accurate,
it's going to completely change our technologies in computing, potentially
in travel, in communication. I think it's going to have
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a massive impact. Quantum mechanics have been around for a
long time. Uh, Doctor Plank, who considered the father of that,
you know, worked for the German regime during World War Two.
A lot of people think that the the bell that
the Germans were developing was you know, utilizing Plank's knowledge
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of quantum physics. So yeah, without being a scientist, I
can't get down in the weeds. But I think that
even if you have a basic understanding like entanglement, we're
a particle here in another particle light years away, instantly
react to each other, you can you can visualize sort
of what that could imply for future technology.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
How about the Lunar conspiracy? In your opinion, did America
really land on the Moon or was that all a
big hopes?
Speaker 5 (45:57):
I think we did. I mean, overflights by more recent
spacecraft that have orbited the Moon have seen the landing
apparatus still there on the surface. Could that be fake?
I don't know, maybe, but I think that we did
do it. If we didn't do it, why would all
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of our strategic opponents just let the lie exist? You
know they would have jumped right on that. Yeah. No,
the Americans are lying. They didn't do it. And here's why.
So I think we did it.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Couldn't we put that same line of reasoning to the
UFO field, where if the United States had information that
they're suppressing about UFOs, that our adversaries would find that
information and spread it far and wide and say, see
the Americans are lying again.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
It could Yes, that's possible unless they're also benefiting from
their own research programs. Uh, that's enhancing their capabilities. But yeah,
I mean, uh, some of the stuff that comes out,
whether it's Bigfoot or flying saucers landing on the people's
lawns and abducting them and whatever, you know, is in
(47:18):
my period opinion, just crap. But you know, you you
you know how it is being a street cop. You mean,
you run across all kinds of stuff and all kinds
of stories, and and you start to become, you know,
pretty hardened as a cynic. I have to actually work
(47:40):
on not being too cynical. But but yeah, it's feasible.
Anything's feasible, But you got to look at the at
it and go is it likely?
Speaker 4 (47:53):
You know, do you know anything about project in k Ultra.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
I've heard of it, About the use of LSD and
mind control stuff. Wasn't my area. My area was really
traditional espionage. My job was to provide access to denied
areas pure and simple. We want to get something out
(48:24):
of a particular structure or a particular space. My job
was to get us in and get us out surreptitiously.
And that's where the Canadians came in. The RCMP and
the Cesis were the ones who taught me how to
do that and not get caught. The mk Ultra stuff
(48:51):
had it, if it is in fact totally accurate, would
have not involved me or any of the people I
worked around.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
If somebody came to you and said, Philip, I heard
your interview on the X Zone, I want to be well,
I want to join the CIA, what would you tell them?
Speaker 5 (49:13):
They can go online and www dot CIA dot gov
and they put their recruitment information right out there and
it tells you what jobs are open and what you
need to do to make an initial application. It's that
simple nowadays.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Is it a career that you would recommend.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
If they want to live a Hollywood movie? In some instances, yeah,
it's very It's just like law enforcement. It has its ups,
it has the stanns, you know, and like any organization,
not everyone working there is a nice person. And you've
got your bozos there, just like you do in law
enforcement or any other profession. But all in all, it's
(49:58):
a great adventure.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Yeah, used to call the the well. The real name
for a bozo, as far as we were concerned, was
a corporal because because he was just a little smarter
than a constable, but not smart enough to be a sergeant.
All right, tell us a little bit about your comedy career,
because I've got less than five minutes now, all right.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
Well, all of it, all of it, meaning my five
shows that I've done total were in bars that had
comedy clubs. So the ninety nine point nine percent of
the material I did is not suitable for over the air.
But one of the sets I started out with this
(50:43):
and it is clean and so it can go on
your show. A neighbor told me the other day that
the President's program saying that we are lacking in America
and education is absolutely true, and I said, oh, really, well,
why would you say? He goes Well, the other day
my teenage son was heading out the door to go
(51:05):
to go to school, and I stopped him. I gave
him a five dollar bill. I said, here, this is
for your lunch, and I can't ate it. So I'm
pretty sure that maybe the President's got a point there.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
My favorite bar joke is two guys sitting at a bar.
One guy says to that guy says, you know, I'm
really lucky, and the guy sitting again the cross room
and says, why is that? He says, well, you know what,
my mother in law's are real angel. The other guy
put down his drink and he says, you sure our
mind's still alive?
Speaker 5 (51:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (51:38):
What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Ah? The amount of beer one less drunk fire. I
knew it had to be something with that.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, before we go, has what you've seen after
your your career in the in the CIA, have you
found it to help you when you're you're looking into
the paranormal, the strange, the weird, the bizarre.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
Yes, because it gave me additional critical thinking skills on
top of what I'd already developed as a as a
street cop. My entire police career was as a street cop.
I sergeant was the level that I got to, so
I was still out on the streets and CIA just
(52:32):
enhanced some of the critical thinking skills I developed there.
So yeah, it definitely helps me.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
When you're growing up in your younger years, did you
ever imagine that you would have accomplished what you have
accomplished at this point in your life. No.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
I grew up in a little town of five thousand
or so in north central Indiana, and I was, like
most kids, a television enthusiast, and I wanted to be
like you know, John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart and all
the people you saw on there and live a life
of adventure. But I didn't envision the specifics of what
(53:13):
that might be. So no, I had no clue what
I was going.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
To be doing over the years as a police officer,
as a and an officer within the CIA, voice artist,
media person, comedian. What has been the highlight, the top
highlight of your life so far?
Speaker 5 (53:35):
My CIA career, probably because it exposed me to the world.
Some of the finest people on the planet that I
met were in law enforcement. They were the cops I
worked with. But CIA gave me world travel, and you know,
about two percent or less of CIA applicants actually are
(53:59):
taking on board. So for a small town kid from
Indiana that didn't have an Ivy League college degree, it
was probably the pinnacle of accomplishment for me. And I
met my wife there, who was also a CIA of.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Oh really wonderful. Yes, she was an.
Speaker 5 (54:19):
Expert on financial crime, so and following the money, which
is the same way you catch crooks, same way you
catch spies.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
So you've got to make sure that the budget balance
is at home.
Speaker 5 (54:29):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, she's always watching.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Well. Once again, thank you for your service. It's been
a great, great hour talking to you. Are you going
to be writing a book about your life?
Speaker 5 (54:46):
My wife actually asked me that I think it'd be
a great book. I I might someday. Right now, I'm
focused on getting a job in radio or on television
or you know, in that realm, and it's kind of
consumes my focus right now. And I've spent a lot
of money getting the training and getting an agent and
(55:08):
all that. But yeah, I wouldn't mind writing it someday.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Thank you so much for being with us, Philip, take
care of yourself and to you and your family. If
I don't have the opportunity of speaking to you in
the near future, the very best of the season to you,
and nothing but the best in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
Six and the same to you and yours.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Have a nice days, all right, x O nation. Our
guest this hour has been Philip Humphreys or Guy. We'll
be back on the other side of this break as
our number two of the xone continues right here from
our broadcast enter in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada. X on
broadcast network Xon TV, tuber Shaw Rogers, Videotron, and your
(55:54):
hometown radio Classic twelve twenty dot, ca
Speaker 2 (55:58):
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