Ep. 130-Dominion (The Sisters of Mercy)

After a super long hiatus in the land of the blind, Al, Louie & Ryan return with our takes on The Sisters of Mercy's anthemic "Dominion (Mother Russia)." Did we like this exotic spy thriller of a music video? Someday, you will find out!

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right, hello, and welcome to episode one hundred and
thirty of Throwback Music Video Review podcast, and tonight, finally,
we will be reviewing the Sisters of Mercies Dominion Mother Russia.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Wait a minute, that's really the title, Yeah, Dominion, But
Mother Russia was only the like it's like a b
sider that was part of the.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
No, it's part of the song, man. You know it's
in the lyrics of this song.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Ringing down and down, okay. Dominion is a song by
the Sisters of Mercy for their second album, Floodland. The
song was released as a single in February nineteen eighty eight.
The song's music videos, directed by David Hogan, currently has
two hundred and three thousand views on Rhino Records YouTube
in this initial upload five months ago, while a fan

(01:22):
made account uploaded three years ago and currently has three
point one million views.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, So, like I guess Rhino finally got the
rights that the HD rights do the music video and
uploaded on their thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
He it was Wayne Hussey who uploaded.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think Wayne Hussey held out on the ht AT
video for all that time. So guys, what is your
history with the Sisters of Mercy Are let Alone Dominion?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, you know what, of all the influential bands around
this era, there are the least explored for me. I
don't know why. Yeah, seriously, it's weird, but just kind
of getting to know them a little more now and
like kind of listening some of the songs, Like I said, man,
it's it's good stuff. It kind of reminds me of
a lot of Susie guitar work. But yeah, I never
really went down that rabbit hole with them. But I

(02:08):
just my recollections are mostly from club music, dancing to it.
Maybe maybe some of the videos. I'm not really sure,
but I do remember the music being played a lot,
and it's only just the hits to be honest. Rosion. Yeah,
the not not any of the other like the deeper
cuts or even like the early albums, but yeah, mostly
probably Floodland. This Corrosion was this album, right yeah. And

(02:29):
then Lucretia is the first one.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
First album Lucretia is also.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
This album the three singles, right.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, this is their second album. The first album was
the first and last and always Sorry and yeah, so
that one had like a few club hits as well.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And that's probably like the helter skelter club scene rather
than the you know, our usual Friday nights stigma. Yeah,
but that's pretty Yeah, it's very limited. But I'm kind
of like digging it now that I realized that the
influence that they had, so you kind of want to
go back and kind of check it out a little
bit more. How about you?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Me? Like, nothing, dude, same thing. I don't have. Other
than the hits at the clubs. I've never done a
deep dive on Sisters of Mercy. I mean I've seen
the shirts.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Everywhere, right, so many.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
They're kind of almost like the They're not as big
as like the Misfit shirts, but they're pretty big.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's that logo that star the star with that yeah right.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, and this song, I don't even know. I never
this is the first time ever hearing the song.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Really, yeah, never heard a song before, never at all.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I don't, I think because I like my goth music shredding,
like not shredding, but like loud ass guitars and more aggressive.
So I really not got I never got into even
like the industrial music more aggressive. This is more his
his singing. He's singing, you know, in that deep voice.
So I really not really never got into it, because yeah,

(03:50):
I would listen to when I was younger, when I
was more aggressive, you know. So even like Bajaus like
more punk, it's got like a punk it, you know,
Susie a lot of angst to it, so in them
and it's more of that. I really yeah it's weird.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And then and then just does with you.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah it's weird, and I always I never I did,
not that I lumped them into it, but into that
kind of what we were talking about, like that kind
of cowboy goth you know, where it's like even like
Lords of the New Church, The Mission, all those kind
of where they're almost on the verge of like rock
and roll sort of kind of singer song not singer songwriter,

(04:30):
but like they have an acoustic ballot like in the
middle of the album. So I was kind of lumped
them in with that kind of stuf because they dressed.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Like that, you know, cowboy hats like goth rock, yeah,
god rock, instead of just goth, you know what I mean,
at least to me the way I kind of.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
You don't really see like Andre Eldrich dressing in fish nets, right, yeah,
spiky bracelets and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
I think the rugged if I would have saw like
him in this video, I'm like, oh, this guy looks
fucking cool. But when they're wearing like kind of like
the cowboy thing. I love cowboy stuff, but I don't
like god all comeboy music, you know, when they pull
off the twelve string, you know, even to goth country music,
that goth country music. Who's things under the Milky Way,

(05:11):
the Church, like the Church, there's a lot of those
kind of you know, their goth kind of coded sort of.
But they were they were younger, they were kind of
more goth, and then they yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
They kind of mature, mellow, yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
And I've always felt that was kind of like too
old for me. I did. I just I was more
angsty and angry.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Ye you needed more.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, I think you're talking a contemporary goths, temporary god exactly.
It's good, but then you kind of it's hard to relate,
especially as you're growing up in that time.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, because if I'm then also if I'm listening to
like dance music, I'm going more and it's your EBB
front two four two. I'm going for that angry yelling
at you for you know, agreeing with society. You know,
like I'm going more of that, you know. Like, so
I just they just kind of I just kind of
like jumped.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I just really just skipped them.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, they never got into my radar because I was
always in that angry.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
And to be fair, he hates the tag of like
the goth yeah, that whole scene, because I think he
just he just wants to make music and music but
strictly rock ck.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
But unfortunately his music is so dark and it became music.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Boys, you know. There he them out of all of
those bands. I appreciate because some of those other bands,
I'm just like, I can't get into this.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
The splintered out of them.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, the Mission, the Mission that reminds me
more of almost like Sunset Boulevard pre Guns n' Roses
and hair Metal. I mean, even though it's it doesn't
line up right right right, you would like.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
A British version of that, because.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
When you see early pictures of like Guns and Roses,
they're dressed all in black kind of like that almost.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Sort of you know, and it's teased out hair.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
And teased out hair. The teas out hair is what
always pushed me away from that scene, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And you know what, we saw a lot of looks
like that in the club scene, yes, where they you know,
the tight leather right and yeah, shirtless still their jack
is and occasionally you'll see them working like at a
shop and it's like, oh, that's crazy. That's really the
lifestyle that they we need more, especially in La where it's.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah any more wide brim hats.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
No, I don't think it's bad. I just it just
never caught my like I need a little bit of anger,
so I back then and now I'm like like by
the time I got old enough, I'm like, oh, this
already passed me.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know, like before you jump into your experience, I'm
curious do you find their lyrics or their mood? I
don't say, depressing, but more into that kind of like
that darkness where it like brings you down and.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Definitely doesn't depress me.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
It.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Actually, there's a lot of songs that I love to
dance to, okay, because they do have some aggressive songs, right,
Temple of Love, you know those are those are rock
and bees like even marriage for sure, Mari and well
We'll drag you down. You just want to sleep and
you get on the you know, the stupid.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Because he's very I'm only asking, but he's very political. Yeah,
a lot of his anger.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Literally, I never really got into his lyrics. I never
did pay because it is very poetic. To me, I'm
call it a surface level listener when it comes to
especially Sisters of Mercy. Yeah, I feel off the vibes
of the song, you know, because when you're in the
goth club, you know, you're dancing, Yeah, you're dancing. You
can't really focus on on what he's saying. So to me,

(08:23):
it's like, oh, I love the song, but I love dancing.
I love the way, you know, like I can maneuver
around this blah blah blah, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I was listening to them because of this, and I
was like, oh, wait, I was completely wrong about my theory.
I just lumped all those groups into one thing, you know.
So they're a lot different than all those other groups.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Definitely, way way different, a lot better.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
In my kind of the kind of music that I
usually listen to and you know that I want to
listen to again.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean they have a few copycats as well
that sometimes when you listen to it's like, oh, sisters,
Mercy is actually kept up with their trajectory and didn't
break up. They probably would have wanted something like this band,
and it's pretty cool, like you know, like there's a
band called but oh crap, man, I can't forgetting their name.
But there's a band like one to one singing with

(09:09):
the drum with the drummers, the voice and the vocal styles.
They're a German band. And that's where he lives right now,
is in Germany, right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And he's like fluent in French, French, German, all sorts
of different languages.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
It used to be fluent in Chinese, but he forgot
it about it learned.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
He's a learned individual.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
He's I pag him is one of those genius types
you know that can do whatever. He wants you know
what I mean like that kind of yeah, also very
difficult to do to work with.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
He's like a Kevin Roland.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We've you've gone through that in the podcast episodes of
the music that we've covered. There's so many of those
types of artists, you know, it makes sense, It makes
perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh, by the way that the band I was telling
you that was like wonder One sounds like Sisters of Mercy.
It's called The Merry Thoughts. What era is like late eighties,
early nineties Mary m E R R y Yeah, Emmy
R Merry Christmas. The Merry Thoughts Englishman. They're German German,
but the voice is so like almost the same as
I'm like, did he splinter off a new project?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
But these bands just carried the torch? Right?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And they have a song called Torch Would You Carry
the Torch? And that song is depressing as well, It's
so deep and all that.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
How did you fall into them out? Would you bath
House first? Or Mercy?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I got more into Bows than Sisters, But they've always
kind of were like, you know, next next to each other.
But I focused more on because they were just more
interesting to me, like musically, and they were so because
each song is always different than the other one, sisters,
you can kind of you know, feel you know it's
a sister's song.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Is that a criteria for you when it comes to like,
you know, like getting into bands.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Not necessarily just had that certain appeal to me, you know,
because they were artists and they all come from like
different kind of backgrounds. So the music they produced, it's
it's is fascinating to me. And I mean it's like
two it's also accessible, Like I think I can play it.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's a criteria for me. Yeah, if it's something that
I can kind of like, you know, I think I
can do right, And I.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Can't play sister's American songs when a guitar or you know,
I could program the drums for sure, but I can't.
I can't do the guitars, you know, or you know
that there's barely any synthesizers there, so I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
No.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I think that's maybe that's one of the cruxes for
me too, is like it I do like simplicity in
the music too, and and I do kind of gravitate
to stuff where I'm like, oh, I could do what
they're doing, and I see what they're doing, and I
could do that, where if it's like an orchestrated piece
like that, it's it's a little bit more. I have
to like kind of like listen to it a million

(11:41):
times and get into it and stuff like that. But
like I mean the hits that they play at the club,
I'm into that stuff, like, you know, because it's good.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's good, right, Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
By the way, Louiam And I ask you a quick question,
how about like do you prefer like when a band
has different types of music? Yeah, because sometimes I like
when it's a mood, right, Like an album is like
it's you know it's that band right now, you know
that's good, but you already know it's them. But sometimes
I kind of like a variety of Ah, they can
play that too, you know, like you know kind of
it's a different like angle in there.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think it depends on the band, because some bands
I'll be like, oh, this all sounds the same, and
I get kind of tired of it.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
The listen ability is not always there, right, yeah, like
you're fatigued.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
But then I all listen to like OK Computer by Radiohead,
which is supposed to be like one long piece, and
I'm like, fuck this rat, this is rat. But I
mean then also that there's I mean, all the songs
sound a little different, pretty different, So I don't know
it just it just matters, like it's weird. You never
know what you're gonna vibe with, and.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's true, and it's also your mood at that moment, right,
like that part of your life.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I think that's why I stop being such a like
a music snob, because I'm like, I mean, if people
were vibing with the Doo Cares, you know, like why
should I say like, oh that sucks. Because they're vibing.
It must be good if someone's vibing from it, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
So, And that's what I mean now, because you saw
you thought bath House is more like a variety of
the different sound each time, right each song.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, a lot of their songs sound completely.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Right because there's no they don't have any other song.
It sounds bell goes dead. Yeah, well it's this is
a mercy okay, like it can it can what this
kind of sounds like the other one, but you know
it's still different.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's different, but it sounds it's that same.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Feel, but bows like you know between like Bella Goes
Dead versus like watch that Granddad Gil, you know that song,
it's it's it's almost unbelievble. It's the same band.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah. No, I really appreciate that kind of stuff too,
Like it's just like whoa shoot, this is the same thing.
But it also keeps your attention. That's another thing about
what I like about music. When there's like those little
things that you listen to the songs or you listen
to the albums, you find something different every single time,
even if you've listened to it a hundred times and
you're like, wholl I never recognize that. But when you
listen to stuff that's almost the same, it just sounds

(13:41):
the same and you're just like, oh, it's just another
one with the big orchestral piece. And I'm like, all right,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's predictable, yeah exactly. You know, when you don't know
what's going to be next played, it's like, oh, I
can't what is it going to be now? You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And sometimes I guess it's like a little musician we
have here, you know, we just gave a CDs today,
always different from the.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Next.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And sometimes I always think like, oh, let me, let
me pull, let me figure out what they're doing, or
I'll pull the sheet music for it and I'll see
and it's like, are they just hiding a really simple
song with like a huge orchestra. And then sometimes that's
the case. It's like usually it's just like you.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Know, over produced produce g ac over and over again.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
But it has a home, it has a humongous thing,
you know, And that's good too. But you know, sometimes
when you're just listening to the same chords over and
over again the whole entire album, you don't know that's happening,
but your your brain does, and you're like, oh, it
sounds the same because they're using the same, you know,
four chords the whole time.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
You feel insulted.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Are not insulted, but you're just like, oh, well, I
mean these guys they hit their limit on this, and
let me listen to the next album and see what
they're gonna do with over there, you know, because you know,
everybody makes music different.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think it's important that the essence of that particular
band is there, and then it it's nice when they
can change up their sound, right, and I think at
bath House does that even like Joy Division. We alway
talk about Joy Division. All their songs are Joy Division esque,
but each one could be like wow, you know, like
there's something else that came out out of it.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's like, yeah, very impressive. Ian's voice still mostly remains.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
The same, but the bass lines are kind of like
the same kind.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of groove but same formula too, front center bassline.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, but there's still something. Each one is like, h
so cravable, Like oh man, that's good. Yeah that's how
it is.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You know, it was sisters. It's a yeah, it's a
little you know, it's a little different. Very guitar driven
for sure, and then the drum machine could be pretty booming.
They did a pretty good cover that's also very popular,
the club scene of Rolling Stones give Me Sheltered.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh have you heard that one? Yeah? Yeah, once I
was watching.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, that was a really good cover. And actually the
weird part is that I heard that version way before
the Rolling Stones. I heard the original one. When I
started hearing the Rolling Stones version of like a Scorsese movie, Like,
wait a second, this is that Sister song.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'll tell you what though, do you think it has
something to do because it's him, it's mostly him. It's
not really a band per se. It's true.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, he did play all these you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Sometimes there's that one guy that's just very controlling with
what kind of music they make.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's not our first foray with that, you know, those
kinds of personalities in the show.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Is that's where you get into some of those those
pitfalls with where there's a band and it's led by
the one person. Yeah, and there's a lot of people
that going in and out. A lot of the stuff
will sound the same because there's only one person doing
it and no one else. He's not letting anybody else contribute.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
He's just orchestrating the whole the whole affair.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
So I could see that. But it's crazy how many
covers they do. I was checking out how they did
a lot of covers, but like weird covers, which is
really cold.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
On their ground.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, I mean it's just I guess if you're in
that post punk scene.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You just want to see you know, probably generation too,
you know.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
You just want to follow, you know, sing songs that
you grew up with. Like Bows did a billion covers
as well. But but yeah, like it's just I guess
just powerful. Of course, you know, you always have a
cover song if you're a music act, a post punk
music act. In the earleast, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
To hear him because you hear what their version of it.
It's usually, you know, especially with his voice and what
he is working with, it is usually it's usually a
lot different, which is really cool. Yeah, his voice is amazing,
by the way.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That Jesus, it's probably the main the focal point of
the music making. And his singing sounds.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, guy, a wiry, short guy like him, come up
with a vampireic and.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I can see why everybody would copy.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, that dark.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Sound, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
But but yeah, for me though, my experience with them
back in the early nineties, I was in my collecting
baseball card phase and I was also getting into like
rock music, metal and all that. And there was a
there was a pack of cards, like a setup set
of cards that they were selling called rock Cards. You

(17:59):
know what that is now, Remember we opened up or
the pro set music cards, right that we opened up
one episode, the Missing episode, and but there's this also
another set that came out around the same time called
rock Cards. So you open it up, it's like bands
for like ac DC, Mock Crew, you know, Guns and
Roses or whatever like La Guns or whatever hard rock

(18:20):
bands were at that time. I pulled a Sister's a
Mercy card. I haven't even like, I've never heard of
him back then too, I was like, this is a
Mercy such a that's such an interesting name. I mean,
they're all guys, they're like, you know, so how does
that because this is the time when Sister Mercy came
up with what the Vision thing album? This is where
this is the album after like yeah, like ninety one,

(18:41):
and he, like Patricia Morrison already left the band and
now he has like three other musicians, so they look
like a real like eighties band, you know, like like
a borderline like oh, you know, like another spin off
of the Cult to the uninitiated like me back then,
right because they you know, the Cult was also like
a goth post punk band that kind of they were contemporary,

(19:03):
but they also ventured into you know, hard rock. That's
just Mercy around that time. I pulled the card and
I was like, oh, how cool, and I just held
onto it. And I also pulled a Andrew Eldridge card
as well. There's a single one in a band card,
and you can also get like band cards of the
other members, but I got the you know, the ones
from Andrew and the band, and I just held onto it.
And then when I started hearing them at goth clubs

(19:25):
and I'm like, oh, I remember those guys in those cards,
and I still had those cards, so I now, like,
you know, all those cards are gone except for my
sister's Mercy cards. And then anyway, so yeah, like you know,
every other every girlfriend that I had in the goth
scene loves to Mercy, So I got really immersed more
through them and no regrets. That was cool. And they

(19:48):
got to see him a few times.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah in the in their.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Late nineties, they played i think in the Palladium and
that was kind of a mediocre show in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
What's the lineup just him?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And it's it's just it's just him at that time,
basically him, you know, it's and stage musicians right right,
you know Hitt, that Patricia Morrison with him, or any
other notable members from his first album or anything like that.
So that was cool, but you know, just you just
have to see them because fucking is a mercy, you know.
Lately they toured I think a year ago, you know,

(20:23):
with a new lineup, and it's always just him and
then yeah, new people right, yeah, so I mean I
think though, whoever's playing with him now they are official
members of the band, but just not as notable.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Because also they're not really recording songs.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
But he still does the music on his own still.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, I don't even know. I don't even think they
came up with a new album.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Or no, that's what his thing is no more. Yeah,
they have new songs, they just play live, but they
don't have actually released albums. It's crazy. It's not since
that time, nineteen ninety ninety one.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
No merciful releases from him. But yeah, so that was
my experience, and you know, like they're a staple of
the club scene untill to this very day. You know,
when I hear Alice or when I hear Marianne or
this corrosion, I don' dance too much. It's too long.
It's ten minutes, man, I don't have the eight minute
yeah that that stamina anymore. So yeah, but you know,

(21:16):
getting some rope. But yeah, yeah, so there's still you know,
I like that band a lot. Okay, guys, so you guys,
wanna go for some pop quizzes?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Pop it up?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Alright, tie for some pop Well let me oh, we'll
have some pop quiz after these messages. Sorry, he'll rust
in a while.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Man, that's been months.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Quiz you the buttons worked out?

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Still?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, guy, I still remember him.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
That was practicing.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
The drum machine again.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Doctor what doctor Avalanche?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
You have your own doctor Avalanche?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Third?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Okay. During filming a Bedouin Man in Petra, was so
enamored with Patricia Morrison, who is the woman music video
with the.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Other half of the Beautiful wife of David of Dave
Vanian amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Damn, CA can't can't blame him. He was so enamored
with Patricia Morrison that he offered David Hogan, the director,
this for hand in marriage. Okay, a his collection of
Damascus knives, b his storage house for ice see twenty
thousand Jordanian dinar or d one hundred camels.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm going to go for the dinar because the camel
want some kind of racist I'm.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Gonna go with the storage ice.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Rise. You're both wrong, camel.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Really he has many camels?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, apparently so damn it's like one hundred camels Bro
but you know, they laughed it offen he was in
the King's brother not that guy. Wasn't No, that wasn't
that guy.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
But but he said they had to have the royal
family security, right, yeah, I think security guards or bodyguards.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, Like Patricia was saying that if they did ask
Andrew Eldrich about the Hunter Cammel offer, he probably would
have sold her out.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
But she had a sweet deal. Like she was was
in the band, wasn't writing music. She was there, she
didn't play on the she.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Was she was there to just to look good.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, But he paid her three hundred dollars a week,
so she had like a salary which was a weekly salary,
which I was like, well that's kind of cool if
you're a musician.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You have that. And you know, I played pre places, stay, yeah,
everything else.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
But like I guess, you you know, like it's she
felt underpaid, and that's why there's the reason why she
left the band, right, Oh, it wasn't paid later.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, well later on when yeah, she started playing
live and stuff like that too.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, right, you know, three hundred dollars like they can
go a long way back then, right, Well.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Three hundred Bucks when she's just doing like press stores
with her. I was like, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
But with him, I mean, but yeah, but they spent
so much money on the budget of this one, right, yeah,
the studio. Okay, next question. In Dominion's lyrics, the line
in the Land of the Blind, King, King, King, You
know that part in the Land of the Blond anyway
is in reference to the quote in the Land of

(24:08):
the Blind the one eyed man is King, a quote
made by this pioneering fifteenth century scholar. All right, so
who is it a Sir Thomas Moore, b Erasmus, C.
Pietro Bembo or d Albrechdrere.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
What's the first two games?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sir Thomas Moore and Erasmus.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Let's go with Erasmus.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I did go with Erasmus.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Also, you guys are both correct. Yes, it is Erasmus.
I don't know much about Erasmus, but I did paint him,
Like my very first oil painting was of Erasmus.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Oh really, yeah, but you didn't know anything about him.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't know about because I just love the composition,
because it's a study. I was at an oil painting
class and they had us pick a study on, like,
you know, pick a painting that you want to repaint.
And I saw this one in my art book of Erasmus,
painted by Hans Hans Holbein the younger or the elder
one of those guys, and I've peened it. I'm sure
you guys have seen it.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Your version, yeah, my version, and.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I'm sure you guys have. I don't think you've seen
probably the original version, but my version, of course, I'm
sure I showed it.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
To you guys seen it that the two times I've
been to the loop.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Now it's not I don't even know where it is,
the actual painting. But okay, so now it's time for
the lightning round, cold, cold.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
The news Christmas a day.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Just record outside. It's probably raining, aren't you right?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Okay. Dominion Mother Russia in nineteen eighty eight was the
most expensive music video of the year, at the production
costs of six hundred and ninety British pounds almost one
million dollars in nineteen.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Six ninety thousand British pounds.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yea se hundred ninety thousand.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
That's pretty cheap man.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Oops. Okay, so yeah, yeah, it's almost one hundred it's
almost one million. Dollars in nineteen eight US dollars just
for inflation, that is now approximately two point six million
to shoot a four minute music video. A p did
a video okay in twenty twenty five and American dollars
twenty twenty five. Okay, now, so question is.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Baby budget too right?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Freak offs and the Land of the Lubricated the Man
is king right? Okay? True or false? Adjust for inflation?
Have these music videos surpassed dominion and production value?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So Ryan Thriller, yes, it has really Nope, Thriller costs
less really just for inflation, the music video only cost
it still costs one point five seven eight million.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Dollars one million dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Very interesting, okay, Okay, Louis we were we were in
this episode November Rain by Guns and Roses?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Did it cost more than Dominion?

Speaker 4 (26:53):
That's not the one with the dolphins?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Right?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
No? No, no, okay, so there's no cg on there.
I'm gonna say no.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Did Yeah, it did cost more? Really it costs more.
It costs it's adjusted for inflation. It costs three point
three six one million years.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
They're paying the director the money.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm sure. And it's a lot more. Bandman added in
the drugs and ship you know, okay, Ryan Ashes to
Ashes by David Bowie, Oh that was that with Yeah,
paint Box bro.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I'm gonna say, no, it's just a little under, a
little under. You are wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I got no, it's almost it's almost the same, but
it's still under. But it's still under. It's too it
made just for inflation. It is two million, two hundred
twenty one thousand versus two point six.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
They had to buy the paint box proes.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
That's right, Okay, Louis too Legiti quit by mc hammer.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Because I'm gonna say yes, because he probably paid his
whole family to work.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm gonna say, yeah, all right, you're right. James Brown,
Oh yeah, James Brown, Okay, Ryan Wild Boys by Duran Duran.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is eighty five, Yeah, eighty five.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I'm gonna say, jessep for inflation and that's not that's
not an a location video either, right, they've had a
studio there.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna say no, I would say, oh, false false.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You are correct, Yeah, barely though by one hundred thousand,
oh wow, two point five ninety seven million actually not
three thousand dollars really if you think about it, okay.
Louie Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley, Oh yeah, left, yeah, yeah, correct.
I don't even know how much it costs, but you
know it's cheaper than that. Okay, Ryan Toxic by Britney Spears.

(28:34):
I'm gonna say less, yes, you're right, it only yeah,
it's cost them one point six million, yes, okay. Louie
Scream by Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
No, that's that went over. There's a lot of TV
in there, yep.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Fourteen million dollars the most that's the most expensive music
video of all time.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Still, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Finally, Ryan Live in LaVita, Loka by Ricky Martin.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Two thousands. I'm gonna say yes, you.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Know, didn't even crack a million dollars forty three thousand,
seven sixty seven dollars. Okay. And then it's time now
for the second lightning round, because I yeah, I did
have a lot of normal populst questions, so it's gonna
milk the lightningness, okay. Dominion Mother Russia was of course
shot in Petra in Mahan, Jordan. In twenty fourteen. Petra

(29:27):
was honored as one of the New seven wonders of
the of the world. Okay, So true or false? These
other landmarks also received that honor. So are they part
of this.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Modern the modern one? Modern?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Alright, okay, so sorry Louis now Louis Machu Picchu, the
Kusco region of Peru. Yes, you are correct, okay, Ryan,
The Moai statues of the Eastern Islands Chile, the Easter
Island one. Yeah, these heads statues.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, the heads I'm gonna go with. Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, they didn't make it. They were a finalists. They
didn't make it. Louis, tim Buckto and Mali. No, yeah,
you got right, okay, Ryan. The Acropolis of Athens should
be ancient, right, it's still it's still around.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, okay, No, no, yes, you got it.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Okay. Louis Hanging Gardens of Babylon.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
What a trick question, I'm gonna sing.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, you're right, it's the ancient. That's the one that's
a wonder of the ancient world. Okay, Ryan worked the Princess,
a Subterranean River National Park in the Philippines.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's one.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
No, you're right, it is actually that it actually won
the Seven Wonders of Nature, of Nature, not the Okay.
Louis Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Gennaro, Brazil. It
is part of the Seven Wonders of the New the
New Seven Wonders made. Yeah, okay, Ryan in Yucatan, Mexico.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
No, it is.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yes, I've been to that one. That's it's pretty cool.
Pyramid one, right, yes, pyramids. Yeah, the one where you
like you yell, yell at you weird to echo back
at the.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I've seen that movie Ruin. I think it's filmed there
where the things come alive.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, it's not horrifying. Okay, louis the Great Wall of China.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
That's an ancient one.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
No, it's a current one. It's still around right now.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, I know what's false.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
False for your question, you think it's false, No, it's
it's Uh, it wasn't part of the It wasn't I
thought it was. No, not the ancient one, you know,
the it wasn't around with the Roman times, I thought.
But it is part of the newer ones. Yes, okay, Ryan.
Finally Stonehenge in Amesbury, United Kingdom, Yes it is. No,

(31:51):
he didn't make it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It was a finalist, but surprise, okay, popular it is. Yeah,
mystical it is all right, we'll.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Talk about the music video.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
These messages Stonehams can make it. I can't believe that.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'm sorry, bro Okay, guys, let's talk about the music
video for Dominion Mother Russia.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'm really getting Indiana es right right. And I also
like that he's wearing a white suit. I mean classic
hunger like the wolf vibes, you know. But he looked
fresh in the video, like this guy is.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I was surprised it was him, to be honest, I
was like, is that him? Really? He's doing singing, It's
got to be him. But again, he's got his usual
prop and staff.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Era he always had. He always had a staff his
music videos.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Today, I was actually gonna come with a letter jacket
with no short on, but I thought, you know, it's
a little cold. That's that's sporting the sunglasses. Let's just
go to look right, that shirt with the leather jacket,
I love it. But this time he's fully in nice suit,
beautiful skinny tie. Right.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
It looks like he's down there to do some business,
you know.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, it's always one of those spy themed or one
of those international espionage where he's meeting with like a
covert cia operative who's going to be exchanging some dossiers.
And because he comes out of one of those I
don't know what do you call that in the temple,
but right, one of those things, well whatever the facade

(33:19):
part of it, he comes out of knowing he starts singing.
And you got Patrischa Morrison, who's kind of she's also
she's probably the cia operative down top of That's.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
What it's feeling, right right. The thing is that, you know,
if you've got to do something like that, you gotta
like not stand out. She did both of them, and
well he comes.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Out of the Holy Grail, yeah area right, and that's
what I mean, that little section where he kind of
pops out, right.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
He didn't go do the what is it like for
the trial of the Trial of the Bridge or whatever,
the three tests before he gets to you have chosen
Wisley kind of thing. And then he comes out. Is
that what he gets the little leather Yeah, yeah, like I.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Guess he passes it on to Patricia Morrison's hanging out
behind him and his little little you know cafe. I guess,
have you ever had a Jordanian coffee before?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I never have?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Have you? No?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But I do have some sort of brood right there
behind Louie.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It's from Jordan.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's from the Middle East. I think from Egypt actually,
so it's a little further but you know, no.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Not that one.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Not the hot chocolate behind it, a little box of.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Eyes Trader Jordan's right there.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, that looks good.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's an edition. Yeah, so I don't know. I feel
like I'll be sinful trying.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
To brew it.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
You better watch out, like you might end in the
back of a.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
But my coat's sticking up. But yeah, this DOSSI to
her and she just like cat you know it, takes
it very stealthily, and then she walks away. What do
you guys think of her gloves? Those white gloves, those
white gloves, ther fingertips are cut off so to show
her sharp ass black nails gloves all right.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Does look like she could be like an X man
and and make those nails get longer.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Right, it's a weapon.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
And then he pulls his heart out. It is very
like she's Yeah, she's very rogue coded or her like.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, the eighties X men with a teas out hair
like that.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Their hair was another head, right exactly. He's insanely used
like the was flowing in that studio. I think like
half the budget for Her Dominion was aquint.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
And especially like how hot it is down there, like
you would think it would have like melted, right.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's probably why, like you know, like if I see
a woman like that, Henry camels.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And you know, for the for the listeners who are
not familiar with the video or you know, just a
little backstory from just our own research, right, they decided
to do the video there. Luckily they knew the brother
of the King of Jordan who was able to provide
bodyguards to assist. It hooked them up, It really got
hooked them there. And of course they got all these

(35:53):
uh Bedouin people right with their camels, and so a
lot of the a lot of the shoots, a lot
of the scenes were of them right kind of like
racing through the land. And then one of the things
that's very interesting is they they were able to get
a helicopter because the director Hogan, right, his lastname was
David Hogan. David Hogan's like, you know, it would be
really nice to have an overhead shot and there, you know,

(36:14):
guess what, give me those hundred camels and for you
they were they were provided I got you, I got
you man. So the helicopter was there to get this nice.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Their military choppers and there's like I've seen production pictures
of the chopper that they used and like Pratisan Morges
hanging outside all.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I guess, yeah, it's cool. The green kind of like fatigue.
Military said.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
The reason where they were able to get it is
because the political stability at the time, the y there
was a war going on for the monarchy was was
like really being favorable to anybody who was going there
to give them spend money there. That's pretty interesting. Yeah,
that was a very uncomfortable shoot too, because of just
where they were at. It was really like to get

(36:58):
to that place, it's really far, you travel way out,
so it seems like it was kind of like a
nightmare shoot.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And apparently too, there's you know, of course, there's there's
cultural issues as well, where like apparently only men can
be in camera, not women.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Right, because I think he wanted to shoot some women, right,
some local women, and they were like, no, sorry, you know,
we don't allow that.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I guess, yeah, like because they're covered in burkes and
all that, and Nope, that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Fly with us because she was the only woman in
the video. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I just imagine though, right, you lived all your life
in Jordan, and you see Producia Morrison.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Looking like, yeah, exactly like what an alien?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Right, yeah, because you only seem like women probably you know,
covered and probably not as the hair doesn't even get
that high at all, and you know the hair the
complexion is you know, like like the nail white and
the nails.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
She's wearing a dress.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
She's taller than everybody too, She's like enormous, right, she's
standing on that on that doorway. Yeah, and she's like
dead in the middle and she's like and she's she's
ready to.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like w NBA enup right.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I think I think the major question was like why
just the tips were cut off her gloves.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Was trying to figure that didn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
But you know there's a scene where she's driving a
car she has like full on gloves.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
There's no they don't talk about what it means, like
what even like it's hard to really apparently.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
They just did the little dossier thing, just kind of
come up with some story, but nothing really, there's nothing
really behind it.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
And if you think that's very eighties, you know, kind
of like that that spy thriller kind of genre where
they were kind of reaching forward. But I don't know,
I didn't really understand until the very end. But you know,
we can save that for a little later because that's
where we were having some debate. Yeah, but most of
it is really just them kind of you know, some
secrecy happening.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
We're like some covert activities, you know, some.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Information was being handed passed around, and he's there by himself,
but she has that whole like horse army with her, the.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Riders of the rear. Yeah, actually she has an entourage
and and he passes the dossier to her. I guess
he's probably works for the King of Jordan's maybe.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, I would imagine it was something like that. Yeah,
and maybe more than Russia.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I don't know that's true, because yeah, I mean lyrics wise, right,
apparently the song is about Chernobyl.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yes, there were some elements of.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
He's very political apparently with this song.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Well most he says, that's really his angle is really
talking about politics, right, m hm, But yeah, they were.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
He was fresh off the Chernobyl disaster, and uh, I
guess that's why the whole mother Russia line the anthem
the anthemic chorus of this song.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Also, how the US is houring out Europe. That's one
of his lines that he says. He's very angry Europe.
He's very angry about that.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it's a messed up world
even back then. You know, nowadays we're a lot more
blatant about things. And anyway, I don't want to get
through that thing. I gotta catch myself out it.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
We're not gonna talk about the box in the Middle
East right now? Do to talk with the politics, especially
in the eighties, Oh yeah, we'll be talking for hours.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But but you know, this video is kind of a
weird tongue in cheek sponage thing. And but but that
was like part of the course set with a lot
of English videos, you know, remember Span of Valley's Gold.
Also a bunch of Europeans hanging out in an exotic
Middle East and all the time, and you're like a wolf.
You know, It's just that's just part of the course
for these you know, in.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
The eighties, everybody wanted to wear white suits.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It's just crazy, especially when you're in the desert. Yeah, yeah,
or an island type nation.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
But yeah, but she's you know you got the Parish
Morrison riding the that Arabian horse. Yeah, she can ride
that thing too, you know, an experienced rider when they're
they don't fucking out they're riding horse. She was riding
that thing.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
And there's no, it's not like that extras or or
like stunts. Really it was really them and.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I don't know who the Yeah, the her entourage was
though they weren't really.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
How it's related to what's happening.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
I think there is the backup because they think she's
gonna well.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
They don't trust each other. Maybe right, she.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Takes something out of it. So there's a part where
he pulls the papers off and something's missing, right, He
like throws it out, throws it out, like, ah, what
the hell I've been duped there?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
The weird thing is is I think it's like Wayne
Hussy's head. There's like it's like expecting it there, but
it wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
One of the things I didn't get about the video
is because I was thinking, like, Okay, she should have
been duped, and then she brings the army and they
kill him for duping her. But instead she duped him and.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Then they killed him.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Like he's like, dude, why did you even show up?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I think I think they're gonna kill him regardless he
did good or did bad, because he's just you know,
that's that's for you not paying us our share of
this music. But there was a scene though, where he's
you know, kind of prancing around right on that side
of the column that very desert background, so burnt sienna
and ship and he had that, he had his cane

(41:56):
and he pulls out the cane sword. Right.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I thought it was so cool, but he was slowly
doing his song. Yeah, It's like it was very teasing.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Very sensual cane sword showing he was uncheathing, right, Yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Wasn't cheating it because I'm like, no, fuck with me.
I got a cane sword. He's a borderline, like, you know,
he kind of reminded me of the you know, fucking
Drew again.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Right It's very day.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, which backfires at the end of the video because
that was her trophy.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, She's like, guess what I want that come kill
those guys, Like I get this cane sort. I want
I have a question. Are cane sorts illegal?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Oh? Here?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, anywhere. I don't think you're allowed to get a weapon.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
You cannot carry certain a certain legs of a blade.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I think six inches.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Shre than five in just the blade itself. Okay I believe, Yeah, yeah,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
But it's you're prancing that thing around.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
You should have known that it's concealed. So I think
it's see.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Hold on, I'm looking about cane sword.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But in the Rules of Petri Jordan, though the Mascus knives,
I think you're good. I think you're you're This is like, oh,
there's like nothing at the massed them and pieces.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Ah, you generally cannot carry cane sort in California.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Does it tell you where you can?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
In California?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You could carry a cane gun? What have you ever
seen a cane gun that was a role man like.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
The Joker's kne gun and Batman?

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, yeah, they have. They're like, uh like old timey
things from like the Cowboys. It doesn't say where we can.
How about if I but where can I carry a
cane sword? It seems like you really can't carry them anywhere.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, I don't think you can. That's what makes this
very spicy adventure here.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I'm just thinking, I just have it in America. I'm
sure in the world it's different, but in America you
really can't carry them anywhere.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
But yeah, you can just show up at a gun
right anyway, carry man.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I thought this country was free. I can't carry a cane,
Sordez about a sugar canees, I thought, I thought, we're
sure when I hit my eighties, I'm gonna get a
cane sort just walk around freely with.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Right, Yeah, technically would you consider the cane because he
really had more. It is sort of what do you
call those when it's.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Just a walking stick? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Staff It kind of all as you Yeah, staff is
with like Donald Telly.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yes, there's a cane.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
There's a cane story.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
But you know your traditional cane, of course, is to
help you walk.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
This is a you know villains use in movies, a
bit of a sceptor.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, yeah, kind of a scepter.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
He is the king, right.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
It's almost like a tool, right, like where you can
lean on it, you can like put people with it,
move things using it, and then also you can.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah you can point out stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, can you get that for me?

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So it's not let me get that king hat.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Well, most people that carry I mean, if you would
you say it's an accessory.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
If you're carrying a king and you don't have a
disability that where you need the king, you're using an
evil person and you use.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
It to hit people, usually some sort.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
You're usually beating small children, some of your lackeys.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
For you know, not doing what you're bidding for your
bidding for you.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
That's true. I mean we have to see if there's
a limp, there's no limp, then that yeah, he's rather gracefully.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Or you can bust like the shows that you think
he doesn't have he has a limp, but he doesn't
have a limp. Hey, spoiler alert, Sorry, it's a twenty
eight year old movie, and I spelled.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
This guy might be doing a prestige.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
You know, he might be an old man.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
He might be a young man dressed like an old man,
carrying a long contra.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That's what Andrew. He was trying a long con, but
he got long conned himself. Like most spy thriller movies.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah you got you got it.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Apparently that it's too powerful.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
That dossier was worthless then we got when the turn
happened during.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
The But who do you think is trying to get
the information. He had the dossier first you pass it
on right, so.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And then he's driving. He's being driven, So that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
He got he tried to double double cross.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah, he pulled out the paper whatever he wanted, gave
it back to her and then she noticed it was on. No,
he noticed, No, he knows it was gone. He was like, all,
you know, pissed, like, so you you double cross me?
But yet she's still gonna kill him. Yeah, so no
matter what, he was dead.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
He was gonna die cause I think you know, we
double crossed him, and he's gonna inform his masters. I
don't know, says yeah, So, like you know what, it's
better we have no witnesses, especially a guy with this
cane right here.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
She had to clean up the whole situation by offering
him and burying him, like you.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Know, they fed him to some ravenous.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Fed him like in Hannibal with the Pigs. The music
video basically ends with in a dark garage, desert garage.
I guess, I mean, I'm sure he took off.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
He was trying to catch his plane, his desert plane,
and she caught him. They caught him on the horses,
killed him, bludged him with his own with his own sword.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
And then put him in the back of the in
the boot of the car. Yeah, this is directed by
Quentin Tarantina. You'll have that classic trunk angle, right, you
know every it is every movie. He's looking down at him.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I was like, don't kill you don't technically see his body, right,
you just see.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
His code and she grabs the cane and she kind
of smirks out the Audi's like wink wink, I got
him what. I'm like, Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
All this waste number one hit right there. Oh man,
that was they just scammed.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
He spent almost a million dollars to fucking assassinate.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Like a weird gentleman anyway in.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
The place where's probably legal. Then they'll get away with it.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
In a war torn George and again had nothing that
you didn't play live, you didn't record in the video.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
It was clean off, no fingerprints at all in any
instruments because she had her gloves.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
On her nails and gloves.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
We'll be right back after these messages, all right, guys,
it's time for the second, second, third, third, Lightning ran
notable YouTube comments. Alright, not too many because it was

(48:38):
a recent upload, but Adel Wright says. Asked about her
favorite memory of the Sisters of Mercy, Patricia Morrison recalled
Petro riding my little Arrabian horse throughout the Magnificent City.
This on location for the music video of this music video,
the shoot of his music video. So that was that
was cool, you know, and so murdering.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Andrew Eldridge.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
At Jim Cameron. Oh the Jim Cameron six eight oh three,
says Andrew Eldridge. We're not goth, Okay. Also, Andrew Eldridge
grows a beard, puts on a white suit, and still
manages to at goth Basically anyone who ever got.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I love the fact that he's always like I'm not
going Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
A longgoing meme about him, you know, like, oh, I'm
posing this way so brooding and dark.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I'm not goth.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Marcos Deluxe says, I still can't figure out how they
gave Eldridge the funding for all of this.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yes, seriously, right, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Because like apparently a condition was It depends too on
how the this corrosion song went and it became a hit,
so they funded the second the second single from the album.
So I guess that's like you're fine green Light the
six pounds and at Gilmeyer one says Indiana goth and
the Raiders of Mercy, perfect and fine. Eduardos at six

(50:01):
six ninety six says, this is a little more, you know,
like in praise of the song, this is a hymn.
This is one of those songs that you can hear
over and over and over. You can never get enough
Mother Russia forever in the mind of rockers and goth community.
Even though this is Mercy, they are not Gothic.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
They are.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
And there's also a lot of people who praised like,
oh this is from Grand Theft Auto.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Four yeah fair apparently many Yeah, So to a new
generation they got induced to Mercy instead of a trading card,
which is through Grand Theft Auto, which you know a
lot of our podcast shows.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah, goes towards Grand Theft Auto. Okay, guys, dominion Mother Russia,
would you keep it or would you throw it back?

Speaker 4 (50:48):
First?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I like this video.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
It's a cool video, man. I love the videos with
stories and crazy locations and you know, it's it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's like, I think, the very first music video to
ever film in that part of the world.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Really really.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, apparently like Steven Steven Spielberg used this music video
as a reference first to Scout Petra for Indiana Jones.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
If you asked me if Steven Spielberg ever listened to
a Sister of Mercy, I would say probably not, but
I guess so. Damn No, it's a really cool video.
It's really it's really well done. I mean, the story
makes no sense, but like it's weird. I don't understand
why he died.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
When he dies, you know, he's up to some sneaky
sneaks over there, you know, dangerous this.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
He's probably like a he probably runs a brothel something terrible.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, to get killed anyway, So okay, that'd have been
funny if the song just starts and then he just
dies and then the video ends like they just wanted
to bring him there to element.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
How long is the song?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Four minutes?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Four minutes song? You know what? This is gonna be
a soft throwback for me, and for the sole reason
that they spent all that money, I didn't get a
lot of the story. Man, I needs some unfolding to happen,
some revealing, some unrambling. I kind of missed a little
bit of it. I do like the location shot. That's
pretty cool, it's amazing. I like the backstre it's pretty funny.
But there was just I just needed one, just one

(52:31):
last thing to really get me to like, all right,
that's it. That's a good video.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
If they would have changed her opening up the dossier
and they're missing papers and then they he ends up dead.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yeah, because they're pissed, right, Yeah, it would make more sense,
so much more sense. Yeah, I got yeah, exactly. Something.
Just need a little bit more explanation for me. But again,
the soft throwback, I do like the idea of where
they shot it. That's kind of inventive, like let's do that.
And the way they connected with the government and the
royalty and they got this treatment. That's cool man, it's
some cool right there. But it's a soft throwback for me.

(53:02):
I'm not I'm not mad at the video.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Still a throwback though, it is, okay, that's for me.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, I love this song.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
It always packs the floor when it comes on in
the club. This music video though, yeah, you know, like
I hear I hear both of these stories. But the
fact that I know orright we have read that that
they just added that little spy element to this just
can make it more interesting. Kind of why why then?
Why bother? Like it's just just be on the location

(53:34):
and revel in it. That that's the part, right, just
haven't been driven right car You can do all that,
But the whole dossier passing thing, I don't. I can
go with I could do with that. How much?

Speaker 4 (53:42):
How much does this video costs me?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Six hundred and ninety thousand pounds, but like in today's
so it's like two point six million now and twenty
twenty five dollars.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Two point six million. It costs forty eight million to
make Indiana Jones and the tep ward in the last Crusade.
I mean it's that's a fraction of the millions, but
it's still it's minutes long.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
It's a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
It's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, you have no idea.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Hard is to smuggle the Mercedes Benz in Jordan. It
was the King's card too, right, I think so, I
think he's still in the body. But yeah, you know,
like I like those I like the elements of just
Patricia singing along, looking down, looking all cool. The writing
that Raven is so bad ass, right when she's riding
the horse, and it's just like that's super cool, and

(54:27):
yeah they both look amazing. I mean yeah, like I
kind of I kind of want to said would ride
with the soft roll back because you can do without
that little story little more maybe, right, but you know,
like they had all that time, maybe extended to five minutes.
Maybe I'll be cool with that, so.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
They could have done like like a little pretty cool
before the music starts.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yes, like a little just a speaking part, right, Yes,
that's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Maybe he has a monkey or something, you know, the monkey.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
He's just petting it, right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Still something from her and then brings it back to
him and then boom the music video starts, and then
there's no way to kill him.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yes, yes, yeah, a little more addition there, unless there's
a director's cut that we that never unearthed itself.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
So yeah, unless he stole the staff from her the
King's right, and then she got it back at the end.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Because she was very happy getting it back here.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, but you know the little breaking the fourth wall
there that I thought was God, his stupid ass Kane
sor I'm going to go to the America now and
break some laws. Okay, yeah, soft throwback. I love the
band though. All right, that concludes episode. Wow, it's been
a while since we had two throwbacks and one key.

(55:40):
I know it's rare, right, Yeah, and I didn't expect
us to actually kind of throw this thing, but okay, right,
well you got it for us in one thirty one.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Well, since we missed all the high holidays Halloween, you
no Halloween, no Christmas. But hopefully we can get this
out before then year. It's it's very common to still
have the Christmas spirit happening, with the holiday spirit happening
before or even through the year, right because I celebrate
until the three Kings Day of January sixth, I want

(56:12):
to do a Christmas Christmas one. We'll do We'll go
year back with Christmas of ground Zero. You guys familiar
with this no Weird Al Yankovic nineteen eighty six, so
we'll be doing that. It's a Christmas song, so Chris
and the original Christmas song. Yeah, so Christmas ground Zero?
All right, weird? I know it also has a regular
not so weird Al has some stories about weird. Al right,

(56:34):
Oh yeah, I just had a brush. I had a
brush with greatness with a weird You just want to
do something Christmas Eve? Since awesome, it's interesting, all.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Right, cool, all right, cool, all right, guys, thank you
for listening and we'll see you. Happy holidays and happy holidays.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
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Speaker 2 (57:14):
I went to a club once I forgot that one
of my props had a hidden blade in it, and
they confiscated.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Really, yeah, it sucks. Wait a minute, yet, what kind
of proper it was?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
A it was it was more of a pull, right,
it was. It looked like not sure that cane, but
it looked like a bow staff. But but you can
split it up and you'll have two blades with it.
And when you break it up in two, I completely
forgot that, Oh, ships blazed in it, and I just
I tried to like.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Sneak it in the but wait a minute, did they
the guy, the bouncer.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Well, the guy saw its, like, hey, can nice look
at that. I'm like ship just you know at that time,
we resur oh shit yeah yeah, so like yeah you
can bring that inside. So I have to like hide it,
and I tried to hide it, but you know, I
just like it. It's gone.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
His forfeit, somebody, you just lost it. I just lost it. Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
That was like a Halloween from like I don't know,
thirteen years ago. Oh man, I was getting at some
club in La