Truth Wanted 08.40 with ObjectivelyDan and Chris Mallard

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, I'm Objectively Dan and welcome back to Truth
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of atheism, critical thinking, secular humanism, and the separation of
religion and government. Every single week, folks, we always try
to have special guests. This week is no different. Joining
us back today is Chris Mallard. Chris, welcome back to
Truth Wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hello, thank you for having me. Nice to be here.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Nice to have you back, Chris. Welcome, Welcome again. It
has been we were just talking like you were on
the show like earlier this year. I think it was
like March or whatever, right before I got married, and
I had a good time. Glad to have you back on.
I've been talking to you a little bit about your
projects and what you've been up to. You've got a

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couple of things going on.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
To the worst I do. You don't got to do
any daily atheist morning show, of course, I really enjoy that.
And you know, I've got Ryan Foltastic, she's my co host.
I don't know if you know this or not, but
there's also a group of ladies who've taken on and
they've they've started their own show, and they actually let
me have the day off. It's great. Every Monday, they
run at my time slot and they even streamed my

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channel to let me have and they do the thing.
So that's pretty cool. And also, of course, you know,
for those of you who know me, hello out there,
Michael Wolfe and Secular Feelingists and all you wonderful people.
Stalkers I think they're called.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I also do the skits the father flannagainslide of you
know products.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Right right, right right, and maybe we can talk more
about those products in a little bit here. But folks, again,
this is the call in show, so lines are open
right now and we want to talk to you about
what's going on. Our poll question today was if aliens
came down and offered you to like get off of
Earth and just go like, you know, hang out with them, Like,

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would you do it? Right? And? Like, for me my
life situation right now, obviously politically everything's you know, kind
of going crazy, but you know what, I'm still a
white cisk guy at America, and you know what, whether
I like it or not, those still have the benefits
and privileges. So you know, there is that element to it.
And I don't know, I don't think I would take it.

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I don't think I could just kind of get up
and leave. What about you? Would you? Would you if
an alien's like, hey, come on down, come come with us,
you can get out of this this place, what would
you say to that? Chris, you're muted right now. I
don't know what happened there, but can I hear.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'd be out yea, so fast. I would my hat
would be floating in the air there.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Cartoons, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, I'd be like, oh wait then let's take the
evil one to bring my wife and my dogs, you know,
bring one dogs.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah. So they were like, you get the family, you
get the family pass.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, Okay, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yes, it's kind of like one of those animes where
it's like, oh, we're going to take you off to
another world, you know, to kind of restart your life
or go on to adventure, like a never ending story
kind of type of situation. Except uh, it's aliens, right,
So there is that you were saying you want to
take some alien calls today, So maybe if we people
want to, you know, call in about that. I know

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there was like there was some stuff about, uh man
was it that wasn't that's not an asteroid? Was it? Comment?
What was it the space object that like the sun
blew up or whatever?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
That was an inner solar? Comment? That's right now? Yeah,
it's coming through right now. And you know, if you
if you're not careful, you hear all kinds of things
about how it's it's a UFO, it's going to hit
the Earth, or if it hits Mars, all life on
Earth will be destroyed. I mean if you're if you're
not careful, you hear all kinds of things. Yeah, so

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be careful.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah that's what So like, that's one of those things
where I don't want to know about it, you know
what I mean, if it's gonna comment, it's gonna hurt us,
because like what do you do at that point? I
want to be aware of like tornadoes or like wildfires,
because like that's the situation I can get myself out of,
you know what I mean, What am I going to
do about the comment coming to hit us?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Are you don't look up? Yes, that's very Yeah, that's
a good movie.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And that's one of those movies where it's like I
hate how right this is and I hate how you know.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well. One of the things they really have though, is
like we're talking about the you know, if if the
graphics of you know, the destruction of Earth, and would
you would you go live on another planet? You know
those sorts of things or actually think, well, Goddess there
was talking about getting hit by a comment. You know
the difference that's yeah, because yeah, in.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
That movie, they do get to escape Earth. But it's
only for rich people, which is right, Like, that's that's
how that would be if we were able to get
people out of here. So so you and I we're
not making that boat.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't think we're going to be on that boat.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, but that's okay. We don't need to be on
that boat.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Do they take pretty people?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
They take pretty people, and they take people.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
They might take Kelly. Then if they take pretty people.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It would take Kelly. We would you know what, Let's
bring Kelly up real quick.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Actually is oh good, look at that.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Let me tell you so first of all, Kelly, how
long have I known you? The answer is to okay,
look at this shoe right now, because everyone knows Kelly
is a well dressed man, always has been, always will be.
Kelly looks like the front man to the Biggest SKA
Act in two thousand and four, like at the time,

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like you look like you're about to just tear the
whole house down with that man. That's awesome. I love
that for you.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'd like to let everybody know. And I walk into
a roomy yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Like if you're if you're going to room and you're like,
where's the plug at you don't even need to ask.
Kelly's there. He's there, and he's like gonna give it
to you with like a goodie back, like with like
a rapper on. It's gonna be great. Yeah, Kelly, shout
outs to you, man, Kelly. Every week we're asking folks
a question, and we got some answers to our question

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last week. What did we ask folks last week for
we Want the Truth segment?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We asked wrong answers only, why didn't the rapture happen
this time?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah? Yeah, that was the thing.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I remember that two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Everything. Wow, there's been so many things happening so fast, right,
So we did get some really good answers, though, number
three from criminal loadin I'm hoping I said that correctly.
The rapture didn't happen this week because the prediction did
not account for leap years.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Classic mistake.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I didn't know about leap years. That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, he's still using the Cesarean calendar.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Gregorian can That's what I've heard that God is not
on the Gregorian calendar.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right. That reminds me so like there's like a cool
project from like an artist where like they're trying to
like build a pyramid, but like they build the blocks
every like decade, right, have you heard about this? But
the problem was like it was like a plus one problem,
where like it's not it's supposed to they're supposed to
keep doing it to like the year three thousand, but
they did the math wrong and it's actually gonna be
like three thousand and five or something because they were

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off by one or whatever. It's like, Wow, you plan
out this whole thing and you've already screwed it up.
What are you gonna do with that? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's one of those things you're part way into it
and you're like, oh shit, we screwed up.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Man, we can't turn that around thousand years I don't know,
would cover it up somehow?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, So you just remember the big twenty twelve scare,
the end of the world twenty twelve of mind calendar,
you know when the calendar restarted.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's when all of our problems
started happening.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
By the way it really is, you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Good leaders supposed to go then, and we didn't.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Number two from Chuck Chatos the Rapture didn't happen because
Jesus's computer crashed when one BC rolled over to one
A D. Apparently gods are not quick at getting problems fixed.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
They sort of an it thing. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
He does patch having one dot one, but they didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Apparently, you think Christians would believe that we would have
like computers in heaven because like you get like other
stuff they talk about, like buildings and I don't know,
other goals, streets made of goal so there's some infrastructure, right,
you think there's public Wi Fi in heaven? Like you
think they got that going on? How does that work?

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I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know. Recently on the Daily Atheist morning show, we
had the question of our gods or angels, I mean
God's angels whichever are they extraterrestrials. That was a sci
fi Friday show, and we have some interesting people in
the chat. Oddly, I find it interesting that Christians have
some Christians, let me throw the some in there, have

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a difficult time believing in aliens. Yeah, and then you're like, well,
God would almost certainly be an alien. He couldn't have
come from Earth, you know, they you know, and then
you tell them all the Horde of angels must have
also been extraterrestrial. You know, there's so many things. You know,
you can't really believe in a god that created the
entire universe that came from Earth, right, so that would

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make you extraterrestrial. But a lot of Christians they just can't.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Maybe maybe God was the captain and all the angels
were just the crew, right.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Maybe coming from another galaxy, or or we're just all
the spawn of some other alien creator thing. Know, there's
been movies about that.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, there's been movies.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
About for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Let's do our number one answer. How about that? It's
from Dino bot Full. The rapture didn't happen because Google
Maps took Jesus to the wrong address. It took them
to Proximus and Terry B instead of Earth.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
That makes sense, that is what it would be. I guess.
I remember like when I was younger and they came
out with Google Earth. But then they also had like
you can do the same thing with like the moon
and stuff, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Google, when you look, you can look through this your
phone at the sky and the moon, the stars, Google
Google Sky. Think.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that was that was pretty great. So I guess
maybe they already had that stuff figured out in Heaven,
well on their you know, maybe with their great internet
access and stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You may not know this, but I wrote a book
back in twenty thirteen, and in that book I speculated
about how it is because you know, if you know,
the Horde of Heaven is uncountable, it's an uncountable number.
So that's a large number of creatures. Since you so,
let's work to work with me here, How could Satan
have convinced a third of an uncountable number? I mean, like,

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did he go door to door? Really? No, they must
have had some kind of social media in heaven, like
on your Facebook or how.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Do you know when he got to a third?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, I think it's like an MLM thing where it's
like you tell one, you get one person in, and
then you get the next person in, and it just
kind of builds a pyramid from there. Right.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, I was just I was thinking, if you don't
know what the original number is, how do you know
when you get to one third?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
All right? Well, see that's the whole deal. If it's
an uncountable number, then one third two would also be uncountable.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Right. I don't know if a mathematics. If they have
great mathematical theories in Christianity that could account for that.
Maybe you know there's Christian science, right, you know there's
like Christian uh intellectual pursuits like that, is there, Christian math.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I could see that making some if you know math
wasn't working.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, well there's all kinds of people out there
using like numerology to try to find our pull information
out of religious text.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's true, that's true. Let's see math, right.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well he's the name of the principia just the principles
of physics. Isaac Newton. He's spent a good portion of
his life trying to find some code, some patterns, some reasons,
some higher logic in in the Bible, and he couldn't.
But I mean he found gravity with like nothing, none
of the tools, the modern tools we have today. He

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managed to figure out gravity and the moon and the
suns and how this and and.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yet he described gravity and like he like described the
laws of gravity. But I like the idea like he
found it, like, oh no, we didn't know where it was.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Got I just said the visual in my head of
moving a rock, Oh there it is.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, he was just kind of like swimming through space.
He was just like, there it is.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
We got that sounds put a lot of weight since
I mean, it's just how it is. You know, we'd
all be skinnier working out for him. Damn him.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
That isn't an interesting way people seem to think of it.
Wasn't he born? He was born on the same the
same day on Christmas Day?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Was he? Good for him?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
He was born on Jesus' birthday? Wow?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
All right, well that's a fun fact on that note.
Let's uh, First of all, we had what were you
gonna say, Kelly, I was going to.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Say, I got to do the prompt for next week.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's right, That's what I was going to prompt you
to do, so you should do that. But we did
get a super chap real quick from somebody. I don't
know if I got to say that out loud put
that on screen. Yeah, from Mathpig math Pig. What's up? Man?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Pig pig uh.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
At the damn show has such a good Irish accent
l O L.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
So there no, nobody said nobody has ever said that.
That has never been It's right there. I got notice
math Pig maphick did me the honor of putting a
question mark.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, I guess he was. It was a contested fact.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yes, I've never made that claim. I don't think anybody
else has made that claim. You know, I think math
Pig said he came and listened to my Irish accent
and he wanted some of my lucky charms. It was
that bad.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, all right, but that's disputed back then. But Kelly,
you have our prompt for this.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
You have prompt.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
For next week. We want to know which crypto creature
would win in a fight and why you got an answer?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Chris, Which crypto creature? Which one that's a good one?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Not crypto? We should it should be cryptid, not crypto.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Absolutely right. I'm reading it is as it's on the
thing there, But it should be creature, correct.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, I would, man, I'm gonna have to. I
would go with NeSSI. Yeah, she dragged Bigfoot's ass underwater
and he'd be done like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So I'm a mothman guy myself. I'm rubbing off man.
You know, I think he's got some He's kind of
a dark horse. We don't know what his whole thing is.
Maybe he's got some other powers. You know, what about you, Kelly.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm going with m Kelly mcbeenbey in this one.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Stop mckelum mcbnbay is again. We stand mckelumbnbe here. We
love him. In case you don't know, the secret dinosaur
that lives in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, uh
try to find to prove that dinosaurs are around humans
are around. So yeah, I love any secret dinosaurs. Really,

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I think have an advantage in a fight. Right.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I want to mention I was probably about maybe ten
nine or ten whenever I first learned about the seal camp.
That fish. Yeah, that had supposed to have been so
that story. I was reading that story and that led me.
That kind of led me down the road. Was I
was young, you know, and I was like, well, if
that's real, what other things could there be out there?

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But the older I got is this because it's like.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I know this, there's other examples in nature, right, Like
that's not the only one that's probably the most famous one.
It's like where like that's the one you hear about.
It's just a fish. Not saying it's not cool, but
it's just like, how come it's not like a pterodactyl.
You know what I mean, that's what I want.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, No copy is they found those right around
the time they found they caught the sela camp. It
looks kind of like a cross between the giraffe and zebra.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh I never heard of this. No, no, no, oh wait,
oh wait oh no copy?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah wait, I know the copies.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, okay, yeah, the ones with the little antlers, but
they got like zebra butts.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, right, right exactly. They find those in the jungles
of the congo I think in nineteen thirty two. Don't
call me on that, but it was right remember circa
thirty two.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
So that's true because that is an animal where it's
like if you just wrote that out on paper, like
it sounds like you're just making stuff up, right, but
it is there. That's my favorite kind of animal. I
think it was Laura.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
It was a large land animal too, which is pretty
surprising for that Leyden history to find something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, oh, copies is a crypt It is pretty good.
What were you guys say, Chris.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, you know, one of the things about dinosaurs et
cetera is that we don't actually appreciate the ones that
made it through like alligators, and they're not really dinosaurs,
but the creatures that lived in that era that were
monsters by our terms, who managed to make it through
the evolutionary process almost unchanged. I think like Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, exactly, Rosie. Sorry,

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if you're watching, we apologize.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't apologize. I don't apologize, and just kidding. You
were cool in Tarzan. But anyway, so Kelly, thanks for
your for the question this week. I am here to see.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I was just gonna say, I'll go back to the
green room. I found the snack because I have a
banana in my pocket.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
He's doing he's doing bits, he's doing he jokes. That's
a that's a call in for our call an in
joke for something that happened before the show. But thank you, Kelly.
It is funny anyway to have a banana around. And
I guess Kelly's gonna be that guy that just pulls
out bananas and various situations appropriate or not. But yeah,
Battle Royale for Cryptisa.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Is always a good thing to have on you in
case you need to measure something.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Obviously, you want to know something I know about. Yeah,
that's true. That's like a that's a that's the thing.
So you know that show? What is it called? They
just have it on History Channel. I can't rember if
I talked about this on Truth Wanted, where like they
would be like, oh, let's take the let's take in
ninjas from feudal Japan and pirates and put them together.

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And then they'd be like, yeah, we run this through
the simulation and stuff, and we and we found that
what is that show called, like it Battles the History
or something? Anyway, do you know it? Like obviously they
made that stuff up, but like the simulation they ran
was a video game that they that they made like
for that show, and it's like is a product that

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you can buy, like it's like Ancient History Battles or whatever.
But like I like the idea that, Like I don't
know if they made the video game. I don't know
which came first, the video game and then they made
a show around doing simulations in that video game to
promote it. Like I don't know what came first, But
I love that show as a kid, and I don't
know everything I learned about the History Channel now as
an adult. It's just disappointing. You know, it just gets worse.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
There were shows do you do you mean you're probably
old enough to remember that was a show called Beyond
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and it would cool.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
One of them it showed was a motorcycle and it
had instead of having two forks, it had a single fork,
and it had a balance on both on the front
end back, and it had auto balance. It had a
flywheeling it so it wouldn't lead. It had all kinds
of really cool stuff. It was like nineteen nineties. Some shit,
we still all have stuff as cool as the things
I saw on that show.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah. No, Like History Channel, I remember back in the
day in the nineties, it was like a third of
the shows were just about a certain German chancellor, and
then and then the like another fourth was like just
about Jesus and whether or not he was real or
was an alien or whatever, and then like another fifth
was probably like cryptids, and then maybe the rest was

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some history kind of sort of like about some sort
of like medieval village or some of those.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Things where they really should put quotations the Yeah, History Channel, Yeah,
what was it?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Pond Stars? Yeah, Pond Stars was on there, right, Really
was it wasn't it. Yeah, pond Stars got big on
that on that show Post pond Stars World, I think
History Channel got even worse. There was that one show
they did. I know, we talked about this like a
year ago, where like it's the guys they're trying to
find I'm trying to say, I've you said the word.

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I tried not to say the word for YouTube because
they do censor it out. But again, the party that
that German Chancellor was a part of, there are some
of them that apparently like ran away like Argentina and stuff, right,
Like that's that's kind of story. And this was them
like trying to find like the remnants of them, and
like they literally like went to Argentina and were like
going into like the airport there and they're like, yeah,

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there's probably some secret tunnels in here, and they were
like like just knock on the walls of these airports
in this airport and like try to find these secret
tunnels or whatever. And it's like one of the craziest
shows I've ever seen. But yeah, I know History Channel man,
lots of good stuff on there.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Really went downhill. Yeah, Well, one of the things they
got me about the History Channel was the constant alien shit,
it was all right, it was always alien this alien
aliens built this. I'm like, you know, people were pretty smart.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Right right? Not actually though it couldn't. We can't. We can't.
We can't give brown people, you know, uh, credits building things.
It has to be aliens, right unless but if a
white guy made it, No, that's that's legit.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
But anybody think about brown people, what do you think
that brown people may be? Period?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Anybody darker than people, yeah, anything, everybody darker than us
had to be aliens. No other explanation. Egyptians aliens.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
The way people think. Yeah, we think that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, it's bad, it is sad.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's just, uh, there were there's there was an ancient
Nubian kingdom, a kingdom of black people in Africa. It
was fantastic and wonderful. We don't nobody knows anything about
it because they don't they don't talk about it. They
don't get the credit for it. Yeah, those sorts of things.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's one thing. Uh, I don't know this,
This is a completely different topic, I guess. But like
when when people talk about philosophy and stuff, that's been
a big deal too, because it's like, wow, there's like
a bunch of other dudes that like aren't Greek that
people just like don't talk about, you know, I mean,
like and everybody, like, if you study philosophy, a lot
of it is just kind of history because you learned

(23:12):
a lot about who these philosophers were in the context,
and it's just like, Okay, we got the Greeks and
then like a bunch of guys in Europe and that's
like a lot. That's a big corpus of philosophy, like
not including anybody else from any other part of the
world who had some thoughts that maybe are similar overlappter
contributed ideas. And I think, you know, obviously there's a
lot of universities and stuff they are getting better about

(23:32):
that kind of thing. But yeah, you know, a lot
of history is just whitewash. That's a sad thing, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know I remember what was that it does and
nothing we want to go there, but maybe yeah, I remember, Ah,
I never even thought about it. It was just one of
those things. I was raised and Christopher Columbus was Christopher Columbus.
He was a guy the story, you know, even as
a kid I knew the stories weren't really kind of
his clothing, but you know, he was. And then it
was maybe I don't know, ten twelve years ago, maybe

(23:59):
not even that long, the whole Christopher Columbus awareness really started.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Right right, And uh, I live.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
In New Mexico, so the Native Americans here kind of
latched onto that and they don't want to sell here
it's Indigenous People's Day instead of Christopher. And I'm like, man,
that's kind of good. It's good.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's crazy that we do have a whole Like the
dude wasn't American, yeah, but we have a whole day
for him, right, Like, what's up with that?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Oh Columbus? Well he was, he was he was a Spanish.
He was Spanish.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, America wasn't even a thing yet, I understand, but
for some reason, like that's a day on American calendars,
Like why are we doing that? Right?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
He also he also killed thousands of people, and he
took little Native American girls and had an underaged child. Thing, Yeah,
this is Christopher Columbus. I didn't know this and people
were like telling me those things, and I was like, it.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Wasn't even like the first you can't even say, oh,
he was the first guy to go do it.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
He was just like, he didn't create that.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
No, no, he just like got the richest off it.
And that's what it is. It's rich people that make history,
I guess. But anyway, we're on a tangent, folks, we
still have open lines. Oh and this is a callin show,
so we would love to talk to you about whatever
you want to talk about. We were talking a lot
about sci fi stuff earlier. Chris, you're a sci fi guy.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I am, and we talked so much. You know, It's
Dan was so nice before this. She's like, what do
you want to talk about it? I was like, no,
not God, unless we have You're.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Like, not God, just because you want to about aliens,
which I think we can still make work today if
somebody wants to talk about that. Otherwise, you know, we
can talk about it. Ever, we talked about like we
talked for twenty minutes about like dead Space, and that
made me really happy because I don't talk a lot
about games, so this is not a video game show,
but I do like video games a lot, so that
made me happy. That you're playing the new dead Space

(25:39):
for remake, So.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yes, yes, yes, I am hard for Dead Space. I've
really enjoyed the new remake and all the things. Like
I said, just today I found out there's these cheak codes.
I guess they're called cheek because I don't know. I
think I see them as useless. But man, it's been
a lot of fun. Yeah, I want to tell you
here's a little story that's for fun. I don't drink
very often. And the reason why I don't drink very
because whenever I do drink, I get migraines. I don't

(26:02):
know why. I started about six eight months a year,
but I get really bad muggering. But I hadn't had
one in a while, and things were going good, and
the evil one had gone out of town. My wife,
for those of you don't know, she gone out of town.
So I thought i'd pick up some beer and have
a good time playing a video game, my Dead Space remaker.
So I picked up a six pack of beer and
I'm sitting here drinking it, and or actually a twelve pack,
and I drink I think six of them, and I

(26:25):
was I think I was beer five or six into
it before the headache started.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Okay, okay, but.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
The headache did start. I thought it wasn't gonna start.
It did start, so I had a migraine all night,
but I had played Dead Space all day. So when
I was up and i'd be up trying to puke
and headache, and I'd go lay down and try to
get some sleeping. All I can see is the back
of Isaac Clark's head as he's going through. You know
how it is when you play video games so much.
You had every time you close your eyes, it was

(26:52):
nauseating on top of nauseating.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And that's that game is very famous for its sort
of diegetic game design. So that like what I mean
by that is all the HUT elements, the heads up
display stuff is all like in game. It's not like
there's like a menu in front of you, so I
could see if you're like kind of kind of drinking
a bit where that could also kind of make you
nouxious if you're s.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Not help for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I do not help. I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But that was one of the worst headaches I'd had
them quite a while. I'm not a drinker anymore. I
give it up. I ain't evenna try.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, I hear you, I would, I don't know. I
I do like me a drink from from time time.
So again, I talked about this before the show, but
Haities two has been my recent addiction, and uh, it's
it's it's a genuine problem at this point. I'm not
I've been playing way too much, not been managing my sleep.
It's one of those games where I just go put
like one more run. I'm just gonna get it in

(27:45):
and that's it. But anyway, this isn't a video game show.
This isn't a show, but I want to I was
trying to make that connection to talk about sci fi
because you were kind of you're in a sci fi
mood sort today. From what I get, you want to
talk to people about aliens and stuff. What's your take
on aliens? Chris? Here, do you think aliens are around us?
And you know it's just a cover up? You think

(28:07):
they're just kind of maybe there, maybe not probably of course?
What's up at that? What's your take?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, here's my thinking. Statistically, I think it's statistically impossible
for us to be alone in the universe. Okay, okay,
now are they coming here and ripping the lips off
of cows and probing the buttholes of rednecks obviously. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know, you know, I'd have
to be convinced, you know, to see. So I believe

(28:32):
extraterrestrial life exists out there, is it close enough to
interact with us? I don't know. That's kind of my thinking. However,
Also I have another thinking that there's probably a lot
of extra terrestrial life out there, and whenever people ask
the question, you know, what kind of life do you
think we would run across when we do go out there,
it's really kind of they're all out there. So it's
just a matter of what region of space you're in

(28:53):
you're going to run ana ast, a hostile one or
a friendly one or something in the middle. It all
depends on just really where you are, because statistically there
are so many out there that there's going to be
a hostile one.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
What I like your idea of No, the aliens do exist,
and they are exclusively targeting rednecks, like maybe they are
just maybe aliens exist in their classes, like they just
don't like the poor. They are bourgeois aliens and they
specifically pick on you educated. Yeah, maybe that maybe that's

(29:28):
what it is. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Maybe they're time travelers coming back in time to study them. Okay,
next specifically, yeah, yeah, well to see where we were wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Okay, okay, gotcha, all right, Okay, so they're not culturally neutral.
They're like, you know, these people in this time period,
they had it wrong. Okay, this is.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Where inbreeding failed us. I think is probably the documentary
they're working on.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I feel like, I feel like you could go older
than just modern day rednecks, right for if you want
to talk about in breeding, you know, like maybe sort
of duke or something. I don't know, a lot of
those guys, the Habsburg fan Habsburg kind of yeah something there,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, that's the family right there, keep it in the family.
I was just watching for those of you who don't know.
They were so in bred there. They had jaw problems.
The last one could barely close his mouth breathe, you know. Yeah, yeah, Sam,
burning is not good, you know, one of the Here's
an interesting thing though that I've I've kind of thought of.
Whenever we look at other species throughout the world, most

(30:29):
of the time, all of those species are, for a
lack of a better term, homogeneous. When you look at penguins,
all penguins look alike. When you look at sharks, all
sharks look a lot. Oh yeah, there's a couple of differences.
When you look at chimpanzees. All chimpanzees look alike. But
it's not that way with humans. We're I think one
of the very female dogs. But dogs, we did that

(30:50):
to dogs.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, but maybe it's one of the things where like okay,
but like we don't look individually too much, like phenotype wise, right,
or or like we look different because we're humans, but
like the animals, maybe they can tell because it was like, oh,
this guy smells different. Oh this guy, this guy's vibe
is different from the other chimpanzees.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Right, that's kind of I just was pointing out that
we're like the one species that is that way that
I can think of it. Like if you think of giraffes,
they look the same, elk they look the same, deer
they look the same.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dogs, dogs look different. We did that dogs, Yeah, that's true.
Like they probably looked different before, Like okay, like.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
They were wolves, and all wolves look alike except for
different kinds of wolves. Red wolves like look like red wolves,
gray wolves look like gray wolves. Sure they have individual
characteristics about them, but as a species, they are homogeneous.
They pretty much all look alike. For humans to be
that way would essentially be the same for the same
thing to happen would be for all humans to be
Japanese and appear Japanese.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Okay, they've specifically, like nationally Japanese play that.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, you know, Japanese is a very specific Asian just
I mean, you could say you can cover a lot
of different people by saying Japanese. It's a very specific
group of people.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, yeah, Okay, I'm picking up what you're putting now.
I'm desperately thinking of a counter example here because I
feel probably there's probably like birds, some birds speak, I
don't know, but I think you're right. I think broadly speaking,
it is I guess like a lot of them do
to kind of look alike.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
But even whenever you get into inner species, like within
the bird, you're gonna go, oh, there's a robin, and
a robin is different than a quail. That's great, But
when you look at robin's all robins look a lot. Yeah,
and whenever they no longer look like a robin, it
becomes a different things We're not We can have humans
that are seven foot eight inches tall, that are black

(32:41):
one color, and then you know, really short a completely
different color, and we can have all different kinds of things.
Humans are extremely diverse, unlike most other mammalian species.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
That makes you think too because, like you know, every
time you watch a sci fi thing and you see aliens,
they all are like kind of one race, like they
all kind of a true like like that's like mass effect.
I feel like is a good example of a series
that like tried to make some of them look different.
Star Trek thing made them look different sometimes doing on
the alien Star.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Trek tried to explain it that they had a we
all have a similar lineage. You know, some alien species
came along. But what gets about the Star Trek is
whenever you see a Romulan, they all wear the same clothes. Yeah,
whenever you see a Klingon, they all wear the same clothes.
There's episodes of Voyager where they land on this planet
and the people wear this is like a red light,

(33:30):
you know, like candy corn. Their outfits look like candy corn. Right,
everybody on the planet wore outfits that look like candy corns.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
They're all communist. I think that's the idea is that
every alien species is communist and they all have the
right that they all share from the same sort of
resource pool.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's right. I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I think. I know I'm like half joking, but I
think like a lot of like depictions of like grays
and stuff from like the sixties are like the result
of like Cold War tensions in some ways. Like I
read a thing about it one time, like ten years ago.
I like, that's an interesting connection. But I could see,
I can see how that could be something.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
There some interesting things going on back then, because you
also had the McCarthyism, and you had the right wings,
the right wing conservative surge back then, So there was
a lot of weird things going on in our country.
And the way they treated Aleyens in nineteen forty seven,
the crashing Roswell UFO crash. Every time I go through Roswell,

(34:25):
I keep waiting for the mothership to take me back.
You never know, Yeah, yeah, well, you know, there was
a lot of a lot of hysteria that went on
about it.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Are you dropping a coin? Is that that noise? I
keep hearing?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Apologies? Do you keep hearing? I was? I was one
day I was standing outside at a get a water
place and I saw this coin and I'm like, what
the hell is that? It's a euro? Okay, pardon me,
it's a euro.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay. It's definitely getting picked up because I have to
point out now because there's gonna be a comment that's
gonna be like, what is that noise? Yeah, now we
can say, well we addressed it on the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yes, I put it down. It's my fidget spinner. Essentially,
it's a fidget spinner.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
You got to listen. You know they got products for that.
Now there's all kinds like I have several hold on, wait,
where's my I got a cube over here somewhere, Wait,
dang it, where is it? Oh no, I think it's
I think i'd have to stand up to go get it.
But like I literally bought like a fidget pack of
just like oh, here's a cube, and like here's a ball,
and like here's a bunch of stuff to you just

(35:20):
play with. I don't know, that's that's kind of my thing.
I used to have a pocket knife. Actually, I used
to show it on the show. And I shouldn't do
that because you probably shouldn't be displaying weapons. But yeah,
I kept messing with a knife, and that's not the
best fidget toy, I think.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
But another viget toy I have is a hole in
my head, and so I like to like that.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah that's good, bid yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, But what happens is I'll be playing with that
and I'll drop it and I'll be all there with
my fidget toy and it'll.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Across the audy listeners. They can't see it is in
fact a ball that is being keyed out from your
green screen. So it does look like it looks like
you kind of have an invisible sort of hob.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh that's a great idea, look at that. So what
I'm working on now, one of our Father Flanagan's products,
in Father Flanagan's laboratories is where we're working on Father
Flanagain's foreskin restoration kit. And uh yeah, all little costume
is an aeliad.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, all right, that's what I see it, all right, commercial.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And when I did that, I was like, oh, hey,
that's a good idea I could because I'm going to
use the eye from my alien Earth to make me
some parity commercial, you.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were talking about your your
parity commercial. I think we talked about it a little
bit last time you were on as well. You kind
of got a running series of these Father Flannagan sort
of products that people can buy.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm expecting a call from the Catholic Church or a
hit from the Catholic Church at any point. Yeah, the
Father Flanagans, the evil one. My wife got me a
full full blown Catholic priestyle fit, complete with handcuffs and
court dated kidding you know just how often it happens. No,

(36:57):
it's it's a really good it's a really good costume.
So you know, I mean I've I've been enjoying it.
I haven't had fun with it.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Let me ask you, what do you think of this?
I had argue with this with a family member one
time who's Catholic, and I was telling them this was
like at Thanksgiving, like many years ago, Like, hey, the
Redskins as a football team is like kind of racist,
and it's also like is culture I use the term
it's it's cultural appropriation as well as they got the

(37:23):
headdresses and stuff right. And their counter argument to me was, well,
the Saints football team is also cultural appropriation and is
taking things from Catholicism. And like making fun of that
because it's like they're calling themselves saints but they're not.
They're not really saints, And that gave me I don't

(37:44):
know if I never heard that. I mean, they are,
but also like the Saints is like it's from Louisiana,
a Catholic state, you know what I mean, Like, I
don't think there's any native them the Native Americans, Native
Americans that around the area where the Redskins started to
not come together and call themselves Redskins, right, like that
was that's true.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I think the difference between these two is that one
group is an oppressed group of people. The other is
the oppressor in almost all cases. So where the Redskins
is a is a they're punching down right, not going
after But if they were, now we know you and
I know they were not trying to insult the Saints
in any the Saints of Catholic.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I haven't looked it up, but I'm willing to bet
money that it was probably by some people who are
pretty cool with like Catholicism.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Right, like the Catholics.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I'm imagining. I don't know for sure if it
came up with by Catholic people.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
But problem almost certainly, right, yeah, because that's the thing
they're saying. They're saying, so.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, so that's what.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I don't think that, but now have they? That's so
that's my thinking. Native Americans have been abused and whatnot,
and you really can't say the same thing about the
Catholic Church. You just can't.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's yeah, Like one of the one of them have
like reservations and the other one is one of the
largest landowners in the world.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So there's that, and there's also one of them is
actually pejorative.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, right, that's true, because right, yeah, because like that's
like I guess, I guess there are Saints fans that
you know, do they wear Catholic regalia? I don't know. Maybe,
I don't know, they don't know. If there's fans they
dress up as like Catholic priests, whereas like with the Redskins,
it's kind of different. Right, So ye.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So that's kind of think that's how it is again
with the Saints. Calling someone a saint isn't honorific, right.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's also true, you know, it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
So that's kind of my thinking on that circumstance. Is
there I'm from where I'm at in my age. I'm
learning the complexities of racism, and I'm so I learned
like Sathian McDonald, she she learned me things. And then
I get back into my own ways, I'm like, oh,
well that's but that's not that's bigotry, not racism, because

(39:57):
there's a class thing, you know, So it's it's kind
of on on that.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Really again in this case though specifically, and that's for
that person is a bad example. If you ever saying
the Saints is because they're not making fun of the Saints,
none of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I wouldn't think so, I mean, like even if if
there's probably at least one Saints fan that, like I
don't know, dressed up as a saint from history or something.
But like I guess the thing is, doude should people care?
I don't think people should care about that.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right, But you know, the redskins is equivalent to calling
someone a.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Wet back, That's what I'm saying. Like it's just kind
of a pejorative term, right, Like it's not really a celebration.
It is kind of like it is kind of.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Kind of right, Yeah, they were out in the sun
all the time. They didn't wear shirts. They you know,
they were you know, they was a pejorative. It was,
you know, kind of a I've even made the joke,
you know, with everything going the way it is, I'm
going to be going to Canada and they're going to
be calling me a snowback.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay, Well, I don't know if that's anything.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I don't know, it's never going to be a I
would say, except for I just ye, we don't want
to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I would pay it because Chris, this is a calling
show and we do have well you have some calls.
You want to talk to some people on the line, Yes,
some real people. We have a castle of ok calling
in from Canada, Castle of Ogg. You are alive, untruth.
Wanted what is going on?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Heyda, Well, I just wanted to call him because last
time I called, we had a little, like, you know,
discussion about the face on Mars.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yes, right, we did have a spirited discussion about the
face on Mars.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah, and I think we got the fact that I
wanted to get across that. I think you missed because
you said to me near the end of the discussion,
because we were talking about how they found the original
picture came out in seventy six, and then I think
there was a whole bunch of pictures were released, well

(41:54):
from the first, from the first set of photographs, and
then people started seeing the face, and NASA said that
they had required a second image several hours later over
the same area, and it showed nothing unusual.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And then so they said what I said. But they
would say that, wouldn't they. I was playing sorry, no.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
No, I'm sorry, it's no. The point I'm trying to
make is that so they they said it was. It
was just dismissed. And but it was years later or
some time later that two engineers, Vincent Di Pietro and
greg Lee Molnarch, they found that they looked for the pictures,
but they they were They found them misfiled and and

(42:37):
and not. On top of that, there was an image
of the face. The face could be seen just like
the other one, except it was a different time and
a different sun angle. But NASA tried to say there
was no second uh image. Okay, but in the Wikipedia
article it skips the part where NASA tried to uh
they lied about it. They said there was no face

(42:57):
in the second image, but they didn't really a picture
of it, okay, Like long everyone just said, okay, I mean, but.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, because the thing is, there's been other pictures of it,
Like I think we kind of talked about this before,
like okay, maybe there was a second picture closer to
the time of the original, but like there's they've taken
other one since then, so it doesn't really matter, Like
we have other evidence to show that it's not really
a face. It's just it's just mountains, right.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
No, no, I disagree. There are more pictures like from Google,
Google Mars and stuff like that you can still see
the face. The picture you're talking about was the one
released I think two thousand and one that was supposedly
of a higher grade picture quality, where like a fucking
kitty litter box. I mean, lots of but stupid analogy.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
But that's the thing, Like okay, like, because yeah, I'm
seeing one here from two thousand and one, I'm seeing
one here from nineteen ninety eight. But yeah, it doesn't
look like the thing you wanted to look like, So
so that one is fake, Like, I like, you can't
just say it it's fake because it doesn't look like
what you wanted to look like. You know, like, but
you can't pick and jews here, But.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
How could it looks But how could it look like
to face under any condition? You even said that, like
it looks like.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Because lighting can make things look differently in different circus,
like different resolution cameras and different lighting conditions absolutely can
make stuff look way different. Look I I don't have
the sets of Bluetooth. If I turn off my lights
right now that are on my face right now, this
camera quality would be very different looking. My skin tone
looked very different, my features will look very different. It

(44:28):
would absolutely be very different. You know, I know that,
I get that. Okay.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Actually I don't even want to reargue it anymore.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
All points okay.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
I wanted to make the only point I wanted to
make was that the Wikipedia article leaves out where NASA said, Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Edit it back in. It's Wikipedia. You know sometimes Wikipedia
is wrong. Yeah, put it back in.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
It's just part of the I trust them, That's all
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Who's them? It's a public What do you mean you
can see who edits wikiped It's probably other space nerds
that edit all other kinds of Wikipedia articles. You know,
are you saying it's this is a malicious and this
is this is NASA covering up the Wikipedia page.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
No.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
The only point, yes, whatever, whatever, only point I'm trying
to make. The only point I want to make is
that nineteen seventy six they lied about the second image.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Okay, well, you said there was like it wasn't filed properly.
I don't know if that means if they deliberately lied
about it, right, sounds like maybe is there's an administrator.
I don't know. I don't know the details.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, I got a couple of thoughts.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
One is it okay, Well, would you have this depictle Okay,
go ahead, Chris.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Well, you know you've got this picture, and we've got
this thing where it looked like X in a photograph.
But later when we photograph it later, when the sun
is different and all those other things, we see, it
doesn't really look like that. It doesn't really look like
a face when you see it under different lighting. That's cool, Okay,
We've got that. That's point one. However, if later on
they do happen, when if they do happen to catch

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that same geographic thing in the same lighting, it's cool
to look like a face again. Because the same lighting,
the same thing. You know, it's just an optical delusion
more than any illusion. Now, carry on castlebargon.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
I don't see how that could be. But it's not
all I've tried. My only point is, but nineteen seventy six. Wait,
what they did in nineteen seventy That's all I want
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Okay, are you asking us something or you just calling
us to tell us about some.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I guess he's correcting the record because but like again,
like so, but let's let's say that this is absolutely true. Again,
I feel like, like, okay, maybe I don't even agree
with the position that they lied. I don't. I don't
know the full details of this. Okay, so there's maybe
another picture, Okay, so what I don't really care. Why

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does that have to do with anything? Is this?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Is this?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
If this is maybe leading to a larger argument that
NASA deliberately lies and covers up things, maybe that's something.
But I don't even know if we have that right.
I just have hearsay about supposedly a second picture. That
doesn't matter because we have other pictures of the thing. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Well, I'm just saying, what what they what they did?
Seventy six. They didn't even they didn't release the picture.
They just they just told everyone, we have another pass by,
and there's no faith. And as far as I'm sure,
that's a lie, because it was misfiled, of course, that's that.
You don't find that Lisa slightly suspicious that was misfiled.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Of all pictures, they.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
They actually all the time. I don't know they over the.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Actual footage of the spacewalking. I mean that they they
weren't as meticulous as you might think. I'm just saying, okay, okay,
types of the original spacewalks that they recorded over.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Like again, like, I don't even know why, if, if, if,
if they were really so intent on covering this up,
I don't know why they would put it out in
the public in the first place, right, Like, why would they,
Oh they put this out there. Oh no, we gotta
we gotta we gotta tell we can't let people know
about it. Let's let's deliberately misfile this so that somebody
can come out with a story later to tell about that.
Like that doesn't make any sense. I don't understand the

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rationale here.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Doesn't Google Mar isn't there Google Mars.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Well, what do they come why would they The cover
to cover it up would be to not release any
pictures period, Right, that's what the cover up is. They
made a press announcement about this, They said, hey, everybody,
look at this. You know what you don't do when
you're trying to make a cover up is make a
press conference about the thing you're trying to cover up.
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
This is exactly the same thing they did with the
UFO crash in Roswell in forty seven. They made an
announcement about it and then took it back.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, but that happened after the fact they did.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Yeah, but look at that announcement that they made the
uh look at Marcel's says and the photographs that all
that stuff they had was sake anyways, right, well what.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Wait, what was are you talking about Roswell or you're
talking about this thing?

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Yeah, yeah, Roswell, Roswell.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, going back to this picture, right,
go back to the face. Explain to me the rationale.
NASA has a picture that they don't want people to
see of a face, so they organize a press conference
to say, hey, everybody, look at this face, and they
release it to news media. Explain that to me. How
does that happen if that's a cover up?

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Yes, okay, well they didn't hold it. What are you
talking about. They didn't hold the press conference, so they
didn't show the picture. They didn't show the second piction.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
No, that's why we know about it.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
What do you mean? My understanding is that NASA released
a bunch of photographs of Mars, and somebody who saw
it picked it up and said, oh, hey, here's a face.
NASA didn't come out and say there's a face on Mars.
Somebody saw photographs that they released. Their paradolia is what
it's called.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Yeah, I know what paradola is. No, it was seen
by the public.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yes, yeah, Why would they show a total public That's
what I'm trying to get at. Why would why would
it even go that far?

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Maybe they overlook the fa Maybe because they overlooked.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
It, overlooked it so they so it was an oopsy
they're putting out all these other pictures, but that oops,
we accidentally put out the alien pictures like that, that's
what you're.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Saying, and then we've got to retract fields of course.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Okay, Like I guess it's a nice idea. Why should
I believe that that's what happened.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
I'm just a theory.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
But again, we talked about this all the time, caller, Like,
we talk about this all the time. It's just a theory,
it's just an idea. We can talk about ideas all day, man,
it doesn't make them real. Why would we talk about
stuff that may happen or may be the case it
could be that the Bulgarian government secretly is controlling NASA.
I don't know, that's just a theory, Like who cares?

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Like why should I? Why should I care about some
theory if I don't have literally anything else to back
it up?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
And what does it change? What does it matter what happened?

Speaker 5 (50:44):
They?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Okay, So like you're establishing, trying to establish a history
of lying as an institution, and I just I don't
see it. I don't even know if we've talked about
other examples of NASA lying even if this was the case,
Like when else has NASA specifically been lying about stuff?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (51:04):
No, not nothing. I don't I don't think anything EVE
been lying about other than that.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Well you don't think they they So they just led
this one time and that was it.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
They talked about it, Well, did we land on the moon?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah? Like so, yeah, I guess you don't. I guess
you think the moon landing was real. Okay, that one's fake.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
That was fake moonlanded? Which one is real?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah? Like, I don't understand. You're saying this organization lies,
and you're saying this is the only time they've ever lied.
Now you're going to be really confused.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Well maybe not the only guy. I mean, it's it's
it's the one issue that they lie about. It's the one, Yeah,
to be the one important issue to lie about.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Well there moaning of it? Oh yeah, yeah, I remember
seeing stuff on that back in the nineties on Fox. Yeah,
they were peddling some kind of nonsense about the moon
moon landing being fake. But but really about the face
on Mars. Yeah, we have right now. I think we
even have so much as like they have Google Earth.
You're familiar with good. I think they have Google Mars,

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and I think you can go look at the Caledonian plane.
Is that the name of the thing if I remember.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, Google.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
But I'm just curious. So let's have a thought experiment,
a little exercise. What if it was a face on
the planet created by either humans who left and went
to Mars and failed there, or what it be by aliens,
extraterrestrial extrasolar aliens, which which do you think Castle of
Ach is more likely?

Speaker 5 (52:36):
I would think there would be a digitus on Mars, humans.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
That evolved to have faces like humans. That's that's tough, man.
That's a tough cell right there. It's a tough cell.
I know, I know, what are the odds. I'm just
curious what are the odds? However, I will go as
far as to say, I do believe that they have
found rocks on Earth that happened to have pieces of
Martian soil in the in the so there's been a

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meteorite that hit the hit Mars, scattered its soil or whatever.
So pans per me is a thing, so I could
see how But even on our own planet, in our
own thing, whenever you've got like things evolved, the odds
that we'd have a face like a human is just
so crazy. To completely evolve like that just kind of
just my thoughts. What about you, Dan, do you think that's?

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I mean, now I could actually I could be convinced
we humans. I say, I could be convinced with evidence. Right,
humans have been on this earth allegedly for between one
hundred thousand and two hundred thousand years, and what have
we been doing all that time? I would be more
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Well, okay, So, like again, the NASA being an arm
or part of the US government, I have no qualms
with the idea that there are images that they take
for they don't release everything they take in space out
to the public. Right, we already know that because there's
there's national defense interests, right, So like that's the thing.
You don't have to sell me on that. I just
understand why the face would be a big deal because

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it's just like that they described it, and then what
I'm seeing here is that they did release it like
a week later, so like somebody talked about it and
then they did get to the public. It just seems
like it would be cool to just show off. I
don't know, I don't know if any reasonable person would say, oh, yeah,
this is definitely the key like to the alien thing,

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you know, like it means to the Yeah, I don't know,
space exploration.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
They could have been, Hey, everybody, let's go to Mars.
It's cool. They really good. Yeah, could have stirred people up.
But they didn't. They didn't even recognize it as a face.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Having a hard time believe the castle while but yeah,
but well, but.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Dan, you're wrong about the second picture. It was discovered
several several years later. That second picture.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Okay, okay, they said there was nothing to be seen the.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Same way, a similar face.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
This is what this is from space. This is all
I care about. As the Viking one mission circle the
red planet certainly signs Viking two. It's sister ship. Viking
two snap photos of Mars for engineers at NASA to
study on July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy six. It captured
the image of a pile of rocks that greatly resembled
a human face. When NASA released the photograph almost a

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week later, they described it as a huge rock formation
in the center of the photo, which resembled a human head.
They released this photo with a description, with a description
like this was on purpose, Like this was not an accident.
They didn't get this out here and say, oops, we
got to redact this, like they deliberately release it to
the public on purpose.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Even well, okay, I mean, but I mean there was
still like people were noticing it and commenting on it
on the.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Fape Ooh who in nineteen seventy six, besides NASA was
taking pictures of Mars and saying, wow, we're noticing this.
We got to comment on this.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
And the information on getting it's from the book I
got from nineteen ninety one by a named Mark J. Carlettle.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yeah, he sounds like a liar, sounds like it doesn't
know what he's talking around, because I don't think there's
anybody else that was taking pictures from Mars in nineteen
seventy six.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
But he did sell a book.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
He sold the book.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
He did sell the book.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
Well, they have several you know, looks, you know, of
chapters on different angles and who from who?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I'm sorry? Did other nations have satellites that were orbiting
Mars besides the United States at the time. Did other
people know about this?

Speaker 5 (56:33):
No? No, no, no, I'm talking about the book. I have
these guys. They they just looked at the photo from
all sorts of different angles and all sorts of different Okay, no.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
But but I'm talking about you made a specific claim
that other people were talking about this, like you were saying, oh,
they're talking about this face, So we need to make
a statement about the face, like that's what you made
it sound like. Is that all you were saying?

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Yeah, Well that's that's the way I read it. That's
the way I read it.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I have a question though, if, if, if the main
of your argument to begin with, which has really apparently
bothered your mind a lot, is that the military accidentally
didn't want to release it, then they released it, and
then they hit it. But then, Dan, here is literally
just proven to you that they didn't hide anything. Your
entire initial premise has been destroyed. Even if there was
a second image, it doesn't matter because they openly came

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out and showed us the first image to begin with.
So wit So it's like, what your entire argument is gone?
Right gone? Why are you even arguing about it? Dan said,
I mean what he's.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Say And that's why you said, Well, other people were
talking about nobody else was talking about nobody else had
an image, nobody had satellites looking at Mars Mars.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, in seventy six that wasn't a thing, right, Am
I tripping?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (57:44):
I think I still think you're wrong. I still hate wrong. What,
at least according to this book. They said that there
was a second.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Did your mother ever tell you not to read every
believe everything you read in a book?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
So some book from nineteen ninety one says somebody else
was looking at Mars and NASA was what responding to
the public controversy of faces on Mars by releasing their
their the face.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
What's the name of the book, if I may, The
book is called The Martian Much Martian? Okay, cool, okay.
You know, have you ever heard of Eric Vondanakin You
ever heard of Eric vondanikin.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You've probably heard of it. He came out with a
lot of the same sort of things of ancient aliens
and stuff. And I remember I was probably twelve to
twenty issue. I was really into a lot of that
ancient aliens and all this business, and then all kinds
of stuff. I saw all kinds of stuff on the
Internet that was very convincing, And then one day I
watched a three hour video that blue holes in every
single one of those arguments. You've seen the Aztec on

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the lid of the thing poling a ship that's not
a ship, it's the tree of life. And they perfectly
explain now everything fits. It's just all a bunch of nonsense. Ye,
sadly because I want to believe, I actually want to believe.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Well, I mean that's just one aspect the whole UFO.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I know, it's always one aspect, even though we talk
about it. We talk about every aspect that you bring
to me and we dis mantle it piece by piece.
But there's always another aspect, I know. Man's it's endless.
It's endless when we talk about this stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Well, actually, there are a lot of different things out
there too that are kind of similar to this. Now
that he's gone through this, maybe he'll find something else
to go. There's a lot of interesting things out there.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, a castle, vall. We got other folks that want
to talk to us, so we do got to let
you go. Any last comments you want to make before
we let you go here?

Speaker 5 (59:32):
No, I like it said. That's a part of the military,
and they do what they say. I think there's a reason,
you know that they'd lie about it.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
So all right, man, I don't even know what the
lie is for at this point, Like, I don't know
what the deal is. You seem to have a different
ideas of history than what I literally just read to
you from the sources I've been able to provide it.
Some book in nineteen ninety one says differently, So I
guess you should just go with that, you know. But anyway,
I'll let you go now. I hope you have a
rate the rest of your weekend. Yeah, just just frustrating, Chris.

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You know, we've talked to this collar before about stuff
going on on Mars, and it just doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter, you know, because there's always some other source
that says otherwise. Right, that's just the age we live in,
I guess, but.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Whatever, we have very limited sources. And again, like the
whole thing, you can see different images of that very
same rock structure from different lighting angles and it doesn't
look like a face. Yes, again, if you photograph it
from again the same angle or a similar angle with
similar lighting, it's gonna look like a face. Again. So
it doesn't matter if one day it looked like a
face thing, they showed another image that showed it didn't

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look like a face. Oh, this is the real image,
And then later they showed a face. Again. It doesn't
mean it's a face. It's just looks like a face
under certain light.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I don know. It gets frustrated entirely to a
certain point before we get to our next caller, though, Chris,
I have to let some folks know about some stuff.
One is our weekly watch parties that are happening at
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We had a couple cam in. One was from Jimmy
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It says if the fate, if the Mars face is fake,
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He's right, I can't explain it, so that's it. He's

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is on standby right now. Check out the crew. Eli's
got like a crazy background right now. He's doing some
alchemy or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, he's taking the drugs that Kelly offered him in
that suit, I think, and that is the results.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Let's go ahead and take our next caller, Chris. We
have a John from Canada who wants to talk to us. John,
you are alive, untruth wanted. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
Chris?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
John doing great, doing great, excellent.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
I heard you guys speaking about aliens and I found
it interesting that you're talking about aliens. But I just
I just started was thinking. According to the Bible, they
say that God fred man and his own likeness, that
we literally look like him. So if we find extraterrestrial
life that looks completely different from us, what didn't that

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be controduction or okay, the least such a big Christians
pause in their belief, don't you agree?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah? I mean we've kind of explored this topic. Before
a little bit on the show. Right, So, like, I
think a lot of big reason why Christians have hard
concept with aliens because like it does kind of go
against that whole narrative.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I've heard some Christians say, well, if aliens do exist,
then Jesus died for them too, Right, So that's an
idea that's out there. But like the whole you know,
humans are supposed to be special and we have our
own free will and stuff. Like if you are a
Young Earth creationists, like you can't vie with aliens because
our intellect and our desires and everything kind of comes
from very specific stories that have to be real that

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aliens just kind of really wouldn't fit in the picture of.
So yeah, I imagine if you're a fundamentalist Christian you
have a hard time with aliens, right, Chris, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
You know what's interesting is we were talking earlier about
the human species seems to be one of the few,
probably not the only, but one of the few species
that we don't look alike among our own group we are.
There's a very wide so which one of us does,
which one of us looks like God? Is that people?
Is it the heavy people? Which one God. Does God

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have foreskin?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Well his head? I mean I guess I guess he
didn't at some point when he was when he was
doing the earth thing. I think he didn't like he
was Jewish. Maybe I don't know. We're just putting our thoughts, John,
what do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Thoughts? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
John?

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
You know it's such a thing that you spoke about
saying that Christians said that if aliens were found, God
would make them too, and he died for them. See here,
but here's the reality. Okay, I wan't see the valuity.
But here's what canamed the Bounder of Answers and Chances says.
He says that he says that if it's impossible or
it wouldn't make sense that God will create will create aliens,

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because if he did, that means that they are sinners too,
which means that he would have to die for them.
And if he creates aliens on each planet, that means
he would have to do the whole death resting on
each planet, and he would and he wouldn't want to
do that. So therefore it makes sense to him that
is that he only made life here And the quote
Canham he said God came down to be the God man,

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not the God clean on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Maybe he's really limiting, is God, isn't he? Yeah, it's
pretty small if all he can do is Earth. There's
trillions of universes or galaxies out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
That maybe God, maybe God has a different sign. Yeah,
you know, maybe Jesus is the sort of Earth version.
But then we also have uh logy. No, I don't know.
I don't know. Teases maybe or or Jesus right for
like some other civilization. I don't know, Like why has

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it got to just be that? Then I guess that
messages with the Trinity a little bit. Maybe, I don't know.
Speculation doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I think if if here's the deal, if they go
out and we find an extraterrestrial intellectual intelligence species and
they don't look like us, which is most likely, I
think that's gonna be like nothing. Nobody's gonna think nothing.
It won't really rock. Most religious people know that business.
If they do look like us, that's gonna be a
game changer. That's gonna be a little The odds of

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them looking like us are significantly small. So if they
look like us, either we came from them, they came
from us, or as your god would have it created
humans in different places. So yeah, I think that's the
only time I would get weird is if they were
locked us.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I don't know what's just saying when I'm gonna
find fault?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Maybe probably not, though probably not as we mentioned earlier,
Statistically speaking, it's almost certain that you know, treadons of
trions upon the trillions something else, But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, I don't know, John, I think we're on the
same page here on this though. Was there anything else
you want to talk about?

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
I heard you're also saying that it was are so
a long time ago, would it? But I didn't. Just
from feudal Japan against a pirate you're talking about is
called the Deadliest Warrior.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
That's right, Deadliest Warrior. Thank you for reminding me on
that you had a game. Yeah, they had a video game.
Apparently it's terrible, so of course, right, but that is like,
that's I thought about something I thought about, like the
Deadliest Warrior sort of podcast version where you just take
historical figures, right, So like if you had to take

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Amelia Earhart versus like Harriet Tubman, for example, like who
would win that fight?

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Or you get like, you know, Abraham Lincoln versus John F. Kennedy,
you put him in the ring, who's gonna win? I
don't know to me that Abraham Lincoln, come on, okay, yeah, okay, okay,
all right, okay, yeah, let's do some empowerment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I like that. You know that should be a new thing. Anyway,
kidstory channel, contact me and we can make it happen.
I don't know, I don't think. I don't think they'll
pick me up on that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
But then then before I leave, just one last matchup
with a good matchup. Do you want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Okay, yeah, go get give it to me what you got.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Objective versus Matt Dylan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Listen, I'll take Matt on any day of the week. Okay, listen.
That's that's that's no, that's no issue. I'm comfortable saying
that because I know man so but you know it's
it's not a contest. But anyway, you know, if we're
talking physically now in a debate, you know some people
might say differently. I still think I can win, but

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don't tell them I said that. Okay, d.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Dan is not a little man, Danny, that's sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I am I am a much bigger guy compared to Matt. Also,
Matt is like, uh, you know, kind of older than me.
So there's like there's a thing there too. But you
know we should do it with Like, Okay, this is
a good idea though, because for a future sort of
atheist community of Austin event, you know, we're always talking
about like, Okay, how do we draw people in? Maybe

(01:08:44):
we do just need to get our own version of
like just getting all the content creators in one room
and just have them like fight it out, just like
box it out. Like maybe that's something we gotta do
to get those numbers up. I don't know, but anyway, John,
thanks for calling it and appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I want to battle royal against godless Granny that yeah,
see take her or I can outrun her one or
the other. I could either take her, I can outrun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I can see God there. Yeah, that we do need
sort of a we need to make up the bracket.
I think of who went see and and we're talking
about Jimmy. You know, Jimmie Jr. Would Would do an
absolute sweep because he's got that military training.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
Okay, and so he's got a bald head, which makes
it which like in the sunlight would distract you because
the light kind of shines off that, so that that's
true as well, So I don't Yeah, there's we we
could lay out the specs at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But anyway, Chris, we're getting towards the end of today's
program here. I really appreciate you being on and talking
to us. So, uh, we're well, we have open lines
right now unless somebody wants to come in. We've still
got a few more minutes towards the end of today's show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
But it's fun when you're having flies. Thank you for
having me. This has been a good time. Yeah, I
appreciate you. Next time I will. I promise I'll talk
God all you want. I promise. Thank you for talking
aliens with me this time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely we can do We can do both, baby,
you know we can go both ways. Here's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
God is an alien, He must be must must be
an alien, so we can talk both.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
There is that too. There is that too. If people
want to find your stuff, where should they go?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
You can find me on YouTube at the Damn Show
d A m Show, Dai A Feist Morningshow, dot com.
I'd stream live Monday through Friday, not name Eastern. I
do atheist morning show in case you didn't know, it's
just like a morning show. We talk fun stuff. We
try to keep it a lot harder than this crazy world.
Occasionally we slip into some of the harder stuff, you know,
but but most time we try to keep it lost

(01:10:53):
so people can have a good place to come. I
have these funny skits. I got Father Flannagan. We got
Father Flannagan's you know, skin removal kids, all kinds of stuff.
We've got lots of fun. You should come check.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Yeah, yeah, everybody should. You know, go to Chris's channel
if they want to see more of his content. And
I want to bring Kelly back in from uh, you know, Kelly,
our backup host today. There he is Kelly again, just
rock and just the most amazing suits. Like you always
answer yourself, my friend, it's it's incredible. Remind us Kelly.

(01:11:25):
What is our question this week?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
The question this week is what which cryptid creature would
win in a fight and why which crypt to get
the guy in there too?

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Yep, yep? Which one? So leave your con below again
Deadliest Warrior style, give your best argument, okay, and we'll see. Uh,
we'll let the judges, you know, come to whatever conclusion
they need. You there, I want to again give it
thanks to the crew for uh working on stuff in
the background for this show, and thanks to everybody that

(01:11:58):
called in tonight before we leave, Chris, you got any
words of wisdom? Words of wisdom before we do?

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I want to say either those canna be kind of weird.
But this is kind of to the castle of because
he's very passionate, he sounds smart, sounds like all he
needs to do is focus, So he's he's got a
very sounds like, a very fun, passionate mind, and he
needs to explore other things. I take it he's a
repeat offender on your show, calling back for the same thing,
and I think there are so many other things that

(01:12:28):
he would have such a wonderful time out there if
he would, you know. Yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Specifically calling one of our callers out. You're like, Hey,
this caller needs to look at other things. That is
an interesting that is an interesting tactic for it is
what party deal is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
It's just like, I hate to say this, despite our
differences of thought, I saw a potential.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, yeah, I think so too. I think uh,
there's there's there's ever to believe that that caller is
a smart person. I know that because I've talked to
them before about other things. But man, when we disagree
on stuff, it's just like it's like we don't get
anywhere sometimes, and it's just it's very frustrating when that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
But you know what, did we have a Patreon of
the week, mister Dan, Do we happen to have one
of those?

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Did I skip the patron of the week, because it
would be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Very sad if we didn't have a Patreon of the
week the day I would be so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Say, you're right, And you know what, the crew has
been saying it here in the chat and I totally
missed it here. So I am going to give a
shout out to the patriot of that we before we
leave today.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Wow, I'm not doing my job tonight, guys, folks. The
patron of the week is going to be insert your
drum roll here please. As soon as crew puts it
on the screen, it is Jonathan Hall. Thank you so much,
Jonathan Hall for being our patron of the week, and
thank you to everybody that donates on the Patreon. You
guys are amazing for that, and I think with that, folks,

(01:13:59):
we are. Oh there's another super chat to wait, hold on,
what's the super chat crew?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Crew?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
We got a super chat? Put that on the screen here,
Oh we did. We got a one pound from a
Crispin slid. Thank you Chrispin for giving a pound. I
think that's a pound, right, I'm not crazy this pound? Okay, okay, great,
you always you know, I'm like confident. Was it a euro?

(01:14:24):
Is a pound?

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
It's okay, we got that up there getting Yeah, that's
a pound because it's got the little fancy thing in
the middle of there. Okay, all right, okay folks. Now
I'm gonna say we are done. Wow, is like already
they didn't let me do the outro. Here are We're
going to the outro now, We're into the outro now
and wrap up this mess of a show. Okay ready,

(01:14:48):
I'm objectively dan. This has been another episode of truth wanted.
Remember to always keep wanting the truth, and we'll see
you next time. There we go, bye, everybody. H I
would see the other SEC chair, watch the nonprofits, and

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