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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All aboard the Truth expressed with your conductor Erskine, who
gives you the latest on national news, politics, policies, business
and government issues.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Fortunate today, So today, this morning, whenever you're listening to
the program, this is Erskine and we're talking with Claire Lopez,
founder Impressive Lopez Liberty LC, a mission to educate Americans
to the national security threat from the Islamic Movement Moslim
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Brotherhood as collaborators among the ranks of Marxists and communists
in this country, many of whom are in the government,
and this is a sad situation. She's also a former
career operations officer CIA a senior analyst for Ravenna Associates,
a strategic corporate communications firm. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty,
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she served as Vice president for Research and Analysis at
the Center for Security Policy. She's been a Senior Fellow
at the London Center for Policy Research and a member
of the Board of Advisors of the Canadian Mackenzie Institute.
We're going to discuss the new movie that they've just
come out with, Death Country and The River of Broken Dreams.
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This is one you don't want to watch. You don't
want to watch it before you go to bed. It
will upset you. It is upsetting a situation that we
have on the border. It's an upsetting situation we have
in the country, from a president who said he cares
about kids to one who doesn't even recognize his own
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grandch This is absolutely one of the most heart wrenching
stories you're ever going to see. Claire. This had to
be tough to make, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, I'm sure it absolutely was. No, I was not
involved in the making of this movie. It's called Death
County and the River of Broken Dreams. It features Tom Homan,
former acting Ice Director under President Trump, and it premiered
at a showing at the US Capitol Building on Thursday
evening July thirteenth this year, twenty twenty three, and that
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was sponsored by Texas Representative Troy Neils who got the
room for us to be able to show the film.
But it is heart wrenching, it really is. It's about
what happens to the migrants themselves, the illegals crossing over themselves,
not just to Americans after they are resettled across the country,
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but to the migrants themselves. And Tom Holman is filmed
talking with ranchers whose property is down along the border.
He's talking to CBP agents Customs and Border Protection, and
the hardest part of all probably is watching him with
CBP agents collect human remains of people who have died
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trying to make the crossing, or just left behind by
the cartels. When people can't keep up, the youngest, the
oldest of kids, injured, hurt, sick, whatever, they're just left
behind in the desert and there they die, and that
is really hard to watch.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, Bet, one hundred and nineteen degrees in Phoenix. Can
you imagine crossing the desert one hundred and nineteen degrees
little children? No, I can't.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That's what they're doing. That's what they're trying to do.
And again, when they can't keep up, they're just left
behind to die in the desert and animals come and take.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Open the border and people die. This is something that
they need to understand. This is something that I wish
the administration understood. Open the border and people died. Tom
Holman understands that he saw it. He's been there. I
don't think the president or the Vice president have ever
really been to the border. They don't really know what's
going on? Ask any of the farmers, ask any of
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the ranchers, ask any of the border patrol agents. And
as Ronald Reagan said, a nation that cannot control its
border is not a nation. End of story, Death Country
and the River of Broken Dreams Toyo's. He had a
trailer that they went to and there were seventeen dead
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inside this locked trailer in the heat in Texas. Seventeen
dead and one was a five year old boy. Now,
Tom Holman rough tough, He's as tough as they come,
and he saves the child to last. And he sat
down beside him. They kneeled down beside him, and he
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said a prayer for this child. This was very, very
heart wrenching. And he said, I'm thinking back, I have
a five year old child. This was his child as
much as any. So you have somebody who's like Pelosi says,
I care about the children. They don't care about the children.
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Tom Holman cares about the children.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah. Absolutely. And that is a story that Tom tells
over and over when he speaks in every single time
I've heard him tell the story now at least twice
in person, and he gets choked up each time. That
he tells that story because it's just so heart wrenching.
And you know, as he says, at that time, which
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was some years ago now, he himself had a five
year old child, and you know, that tractor trailer was
carrying illegals across the border. It was a steel box.
They were locked inside. Whatever happened, the driver abandoned the vehicle,
and these seventeen people, including the father who died basically
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holding sheltering his child who also died, they were locked
inside of this steel trap, the steel box, and the
temperatures they said, you know, reached over one hundred and
seventy degrees inside. You can't breathe. Your organ shut down eventually,
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and they all died and he found them, and Tom
Holman was there when they opened it up. And the
story he tells is just heart wrenching because the cartels
do not care about the people. They get their payment,
they get their money, and that's all they care about,
and if anything happens, they abandon the people.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
This is chaos and death by design. Now talk to
Robert Massour, and Robert Massour worked as a person who
was la or laundering drug money for the cartels and
he was working for our government. And Robert told me,
he said, the most heart wrenching thing he saw was
with the cartel. He went into a town and when
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he went into this town, there were forty people who
were dead, dismembered. The cartels did that just to show
the town that we're in control. Now. These people are
completely ruthless. They have no soul.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Absolutely. But here's the part about it. You know, we've
talked about the Biden administration, the Secretary of the Department
of Homeland Security, Alejandro Majorcas, none of whom are obeying
the law as written. But there's another part of that.
Our taxpayer dollars would go to the Department of State
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help to fund all this. The Department of State funds NGOs,
non governmental organizations that include such as Catholic charities, Lutheran
social services, and many faith based and those NGOs, as
well as representatives of the United Nations and our Department
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of State, are all down in Latin America, particularly Central America,
providing assistance, monetary assistance. They're buying the clothing, the shoes,
the backpacks, the cell phones, and also handing out debit
cards to the illegals and giving them maps for how
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to reach the United States, head north on this pathway
and come to the United States. Our taxpayer dollars are
doing that. The NGOs are collaborating directly with the cartels
to traffic people, human beings up through the route from
South America, Central America across our border into the United States, and.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They're being encouraged by our president. Talked with David Stoddard,
who's a border agent, David's friend of mine, and said,
what is the difference between now and about two years
ago two and a half years ago under President Trump?
He said, it's day and night. They feel like they're entitled,
they feel like they've been welcomed, that they wanted them
to come. As opposed to Trump, he had the border secure,
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people were safe, they stayed in their own country. He
tried to help them in their own country. This is
total under this administration exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And here's the part of it too that people can
can hear about Sea Watch in our film. By the way,
you can watch that film anybody who would like to now.
It is posted up at our website Defend the Border
dot org. Defend the Border dot org. Your donations, uh,
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those who are listening can help us to get that
film out to more people across the country Defend the
Border dot org. But in the film it's described how
the cartels are trafficking human beings. Now many people already
have seen and more are flocking to see the blockbuster
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film Sound of Freedom at the movie theaters. This this film,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
If you've seen the Sound of Freedom, this is an adjuncts.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yet But I plan to and I want to. But
but that story is focused on child trafficking, horrific, horrific stuff.
But that story ends at our southern border. Our film
and our focus at Defend the Border dot org begins
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at our southern border with Mexico and the child trafficking
that goes on. The cartels, the NGOs, the Department of State,
all involved in trafficking children. One of the things that
the Biden administration just did end of May this year,
twenty twenty three, was to end the Trump era policy
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of DNA testing at the border for children and those
who claimed to be their family traveling with them. That
was a Trump policy, not a law, but a policy,
and it was ended by the Biden administration end of May.
There are bills now pending in Congress Marshall Blackburn Senator
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Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee I believe has sponsored one with
other people too. But that reversal of the Trump era
policy on DNA testing opens the floodgates for unscrupulous people
who are trafficking children into the United States for indentured servitude,
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involuntary labor. They've been found, kids have been found in
the middle of the night working meat packing plants, packaging
plants and what have you. Right, And that's not the
worst of it. The worst of it is they're trafficked
into sex, slavery little children.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right into pedophilia. Now the worst of it also twenty
twenty three, as of now, they know of eighty five thousand,
eighty five thousand missing illegal children who are supposed to
be with others and they aren't even tracking them. They
can't find them.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, I've seen those numbers. And the thing is that
when these people do come through, and they typically come
through the ports of entry, turn themselves into the customs
and Border patrol agencies, They're processed paperwork, minimum paperwork. There's
no background checks and again no DNA testing anymore to
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see these children actually belong to these adults. They're traveling with.
They're waved straight in the NGOs, pick them up, take
them wherever they want to go, and there's no check
on where those children wind.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Up, well at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
They have done on the recipient people who take these
children in. And there's the complete opening for you know,
child labor and child sex traffic.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We're going to take a break right now. When we
come back. Right after that, we're going to talk about
some of the other problems that you talk about in
your film, which is absolutely fabulous. It's called Death Country,
the River of Broken Dreams. The Biden administration is quickly
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that is that refers to the none other than the
Rio ground to where all of them cross. This is
an incredible story, incredible story. Defendthborder dot Org. Go up there,
look at the trailer. The trailer will hook you. Now.
That's we're not even talk getting into the fact that
twenty twenty two, one hundred and seven thousand fentanyl deaths
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in the US, twenty twenty three, eighty five thousand children missing,
they don't know where they are given to people. Three
times as many Chinese illegals versus twenty twenty two are
coming over. They're not here to do good. Eighty seven,
six hundred and sixty two Moslims process for expulsion, those
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are the ones process for expulsion. We're bringing in our
next nine to eleven. They're setting up cells in this country.
I have no question about that, do you, Claire, No,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It's a matter of time. But you know, I want
to also focus on something you just mentioned, which is
the influx of young military aged Chinese.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Men, right, that's all it is.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That comes comes from reporting, excellent reporting done down near
the Darian Gap. That's that jungle terrain that that sits
between Colombia at the top of South America and Panama,
the southernmost country of Central America. And Michael Yan you
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can find him at Michael underscore Yan Yo n Jungle
on Twitter where he posts a lot of this reporting.
Also Todd Bensman and what they what what they reported?
And I wrote about this a couple of times at
the website Defend the Border dot org. They were observing
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these young Chinese military aged men who had made it
through the Darian Gap, a very rugged jungle area, and
they were they were relieved and tired and thirsty, but relieved.
And what the villages and others in Panama on the
Panama side of the Darien Gap we're seeing, and Michael
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Yan reported on this from the site, is that these
Chinese men then were in the village killing chickens and
drinking shots of their blood. Oh my, Now, neither Michael
nor I knew what that was about. With a mutual
friend of ours, Chinese virologist, doctor Li Mengnan, who defected
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out of Hong Kong back in middle of twenty twenty,
good friend of both of ours now, and we asked her,
do you know what this is about? And she said yes.
The drinking of chickens blood like that in sort of
celebration of, you know, having made the passage through the
Darien Gap is the signature training ritual of the seventy
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fifth Special Operations Brigade of the Chinese People's Liberation Army.
That brigade was formed by Shijingping back in twenty thirteen.
And they go by the name the Jungle Tigers. That's
who those people are. And then as I was on
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the phone one night with Michael Yan, and he's sitting
in a cafe in this Panamanian village, evening is falling,
and he's watching buses. These big coach buses hold forty
forty five people each loading up outside the windows on
the street in this Panamanian village, and then they take
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off and they're all headed north. They're headed north. Still
trying to find out who is funding those buses, don't
exactly know yet, but you know that had to cost
a lot of money to drive from Panama all the
way well probably to our border with forty forty five
people on board, with stops along the way and et cetera.
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But that's that's that's what's going on now. We can
expect that those Chinese men are not coming through ports
of entry to turn themselves into pete the CBP, like
other illegals may be doing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, that's why they're snaking.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Between the ports of entry. They're already here now. Add
to that, what we know from Department of Justice are
recent arrests at these special Chinese police stations across the
United States.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
We need to take a break right now, would be
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
We're talking about Claire Lopez. Where we left off was
the number of Chinese who are coming over istter of facts.
Not just Chinese. We've had people from one hundred and
sixty one different countries coming across, but the Chinese. The
police stations in New York other places which are used
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to keep the Chinese people here under control, as also
used to spy. There's no other word for it, is there.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, you're right, you're absolutely writers going to end. And
what I was, what I was drawing was the picture
of these various different Chinese elements now coming into and
present in the United States. You know, they've got the
main embassy of course in Washington, d C. There's the
UN mission in New York. But in addition to that
are four consulates, another in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles,
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and San Francisco. The one in Houston got shut down
by then Secretary of State Mike Pompeio back in the
summer of twenty twenty. In addition to those are these
police stations. There are at least a hand full of
them that we know about now, four or five maybe more.
In addition to that, there are other presence says, you
might call them special service stations as they call them.
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And these are not diplomatic missions. They have no diplomatic status.
But you know, like you just said, And in addition
to the police stations and probably out of the diplomatic
facilities too, the Chinese are keeping tabs on their own
nationals who may be present in the United States right
but who may be dissidents against the Beijing regime. And
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they're harassing them, intimidating them and sometimes even coercing them
to return back to China to face who knows what.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
If they don't go back, They tell them they have
family back there that will not be the same, right.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, But all these different elements of a presence in
the United States, the military men coming on up through
the migration routes, the special police stations, the special service stations,
the consulates, and the embassy. Now add to that what
we've just learned kind of recently that the Chinese have
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already taken over an intelligence listening and collection post on Cuba, right,
probably the one that was originally run by the Soviets
at Leurs back in the day.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And in addition to that, on Cuba, the Chinese planned
to establish a joint military training program. Now it occurs
to me that maybe all these Chinese in the United
States that we just talked about need a command and
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control post. Where better to put such a command and
control post than Cuba, ninety miles off of Key West, Florida.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Look at what President John F. Kennedy did with the
May of Pigs. He went in there obstensively to enforce
the Monroe doctrine.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's no longer it's no longer being and they were
all slaughtered or imprisoned.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Right, but it's no longer being in forced. The Monroe
doctrine and the Chinese are also allowed in most states
to buy land as law times next to military installations.
This is wrong. Can we buy land in China? No
we can't. No, no, we can't.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Now this is a Certain states are waking up to this.
South Dakota all name with their wonderful christ right is
very much aware of this. Other states too. And again
it's not the amount of land that China is buying.
They're like fourteenth on the list of foreigners.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's where they're buying it. Where they're buying next to
military reservations and that type of thing, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, hopefully that word
is getting out and places like South Dakota are taking
steps to ensure that there is no Chinese presence established
near their military.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
This is an issue for us.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The balloon's flying overhead, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, they wait until it went all the way across
the country to shoot it down. Did you notice that, right?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Public safety definitely a concern. National security definitely as a concern.
We are in a fight for our life. This is
a asymmetrical warfare that the Chinese are casting upon us.
We're fighting without that, and where this is just a
horrible situation. Two hundred and sixty six thousand, two hundred
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and sixty six thousand unaccompanied children since Biden took over
have come into this country that we know of. That's
the ones that we know of. There are a lot more,
aren't there.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
There may well be that many more lost track of them.
Don't keep track of them. Don't keep track of where
those children are going or into whose hands they're delivered.
I mean back to our film Death County and the
River of Broken Dreams showing now you can watch the
entire thing. I think it's about forty three minutes long
right at the website.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Don't watch it, don't watch a night before you go
to bed. They'll keep you awake. This takes off where
the other film, Tim Ballard film, The Sound of Freedom
leaves off. This is in our country, and it also
shows the economy of pedophilia and much more. In that film.
Tom Holman is a hero. He is an absolute.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Hero to me, absolutely to many of us. He's a hero,
and we can only hope that he comes back along
with a second Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Absolutely Trump had the border. When I talk to David
Stoddard and others, Trump had the border under control Mexico
was dealing with us. He knows, he knows the art
of the deal. And I'm not sure what the president
president knows, but it isn't much. He's looking like an idioto,
especially with NATO and everything Elsewhay, I mean, the difference
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is night and day, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It's completely night and day. And the thing is that
I think many of us now realize that, you know,
President Joe Biden is not really in charge of his
own administration. A junta. I think of it as a
junta around him that that's running things, and unfortunately they
are turning a blind eye, if not worse, to the
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trafficking coming across our southern border, especially the trafficking of children.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You've given your life to service to the United States
of America, Claire. You have been at so many different places.
Are we going to get through this? Are we as
a nation going to get through this?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yes, we absolutely are. We have a lot of work
to do. But what is happening is from the grassroots up,
ordinary everyday American citizen patriots are realizing thanks to radio
shows like yours, thank you very much, other programs, they
are realizing. Movies, you know, like Sound of Freedom, like
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Death County in the River of Broken Dreams. What's going on?
And they're organizing. Parents are organizing because when they come
for the kids, that's the red line. And parents have
begun to stand up, to organize and to push back. Yes,
we will save this Republic of Arts.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
We've got two things that kids are being attacked from
three different levels as I see it. The first level
is the pedophilia from the people coming across and the
forced labor of them coming across and using them. For that,
the people who are using them should definitely be put
in jail. People bring them across. I don't care what
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you do to them. I think they need to be
taken out because they're just evil. This is evil when
you mess with children, I mean suffer the little children
come to me, said Jesus. This is not not anything
that anybody would ever think about doing. I mean, it's
just horrible. Then you've got the we're here, we're queer,
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and we're coming for your children. That's another one. And
then you've got the teachers, the garbage that they're teaching
children in schools. They are indoctrinating. We have a class,
we have a group of children who have been indoctrinated
into this, that this is normal. We've got a group
that they're saying children are just almost disposable in right now.
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I've never seen anything like this. The government wants to
take over our children instead of the parents.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, that's that's the red line. And you're absolutely right.
We have become unmoored from our moral underpinning.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We've lost our value system. And when America's lost its
value system, it has lost itself.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But I think not the majority. And this is the
program of a communist Marxist option.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Going back, well, you use the term it is godless,
it is almost I would have to go say it's
Luciferian or demonic what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Well, it is organized, and this is the thing. It's organized,
it's intentional. It is a program that began just as
you were saying, by infiltrating, co opting, taking over our
educational system. You know, go back to the book The
Naked Communist nineteen fifty eight, written by former FBI agent W.
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Kleon Skousen, and chapter thirteen. Never mind the whole book,
but chapter thirteen, which lists what it calls forty five
goals of communism today. Number seventeen of that is get
control of the schools, the curriculum, the teachers associations. Others
of those forty five goals include things like make obscenity
and pornography commonplace and normalize. That is what has happened
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is it is a a methodical, organized infiltration of our institutions,
beginning with academia, but not stopping there. Hollywood, entertainment, media,
social media.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Even even though even the churches now are even traded,
co opted, corrupted.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
This is communist, and this is Marxist, and it is
a plan.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Even the churches are woke now, even the churches. Right.
So when you're looking at this and when I when
I see the president of the United States biting or
kissing the little child's back, I mean I just got
sick that this is the image of America today.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, I can't imagine those parents. I think we're talking
about the same uh clip that we probably both saw.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
They were smiling, And imagine the.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Father and the mother standing there and not whisking their
child away. They didn't. They smiled and took photos.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
The child didn't watch child.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
They are back to children. Know the parents are the
ones who were I don't know, oblivious.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I just the only thing I think is it's time
for Jesus to return. I mean, I've been doing more praying.
I think a lot of Americans have been doing more
praying about everything that's going on.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Well, this country does need to return to its Judeo
Christian ethos moral roots, it really does.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
This is what set us aside from every other country
in the world is the fact that we had a
strong Judaeo Christian value system. This says aside. Without that,
we're just another country.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
We can bring it back, though, and I am seeing
I mean back to what I was saying, the parents,
the local American citizen patriots across the majority of this country,
they are still moored to these moral and ethical Judaeo
Christian principles are.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Back, I hope. What what else have you been writing
about that you might be might be adventurous to the audience.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, I've been writing a lot about China recently, and
you can look for some of that at my NEWSMACS
blog site, which is called in Defense of Liberty and
cross posted in many other places, including the United West.
But they're been writing about China and among among the
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things that we're talking about here, but also China's offensive
biological weapons program, because everybody keeps talking about COVID, COVID, COVID.
We're not interested in COVID. That's the disease, and everybody
knows perfectly well where the disease came from. He came
from the virus. The virus is called stars COVID two.
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So I've been writing about the Chinese biological weapons program,
which to me very oddly does not resonate. You cannot
get anybody in Congress to care about it. I've tried
and tried to contact them. They do not care about
the Chinese biological weapons.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Pro Only one who cares is Rand.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Paul, and he's really going after it. I got to
give him a lot of credit, right, And maybe I
should name a few others that are with Rand Paul.
But the point being that open source publications for a
long time have shown what the Chinese are doing with
what they call a civilian military fusion program, which means
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that all of their ostensibly civilian labs, like the Wuhan
Institute of Virology, which is not a lab, it's an
institute that contains many labs. The one that we care about,
the most is, of course the BSL four Biosafety Level
four one and others there that did coronavirus gain a
function research. But civilian, ostensibly billion research facilities like that
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are obligated by Chinese law to collaborate with the PLA
People's Liberation Army military labs, sharing all their research, all
their their experts, all their data with each other. And
that is the combined civilian military fusion biological weapons program
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that goes back decades.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
And we helped, We helped to weaponize it's for gain
of function through doctor Fuci, through Bill Gates, through people
like them, fell all down at the University of North Carolina.
We helped them to put it together and they stopped.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So the thing is, honestly, the Chinese learned how to
do gain a function from the Soviets way back, I
mean decades ago. They didn't need us for gain of function.
Then they're going to take our money, They're going to
take our research, and I think deliberately lured in our
own senior public health officials in a kind of elite capture.
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Doctor Ralph Barritt of the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill,
James Leduke down at the Galveston National Laboratory retired. Now
the public health senior officials like a doctor Francis Collins,
former head of NIH, in twenty fifteen, signed an agreement
with the Chinese Academy of Military Medical Sciences that is
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under the PLA collaborating with them on their offensive biological
weapons program.
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professors and one thing another now Falci Visa Vi Francis
Collins gave money to China directly from the US. And
when they gave it to them this actually President Obama
stopped it or suggested they quit. President Trump stopped it,
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but they went around the back, went around the corner,
and still kept giving. This is how deep the deep
state goes. But you also had this professor at Harvard
tell a little bit about that one.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Right, So the Chinese Communist Party has multiple programs for
co opting Americans in what again they call the elite capture,
and that means through various inducements like payments, like funding
grants and so forth, they lure in our scientists, our
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deans of academic institutions. And you're talking at Harvard there
about a doctor Charles Leber, who came to public attention
and what a year or maybe even two years ago
because he had been taking funding, large amounts of funding
from the Chinese under a program called the Thousand Talents programs.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Getting half for a million dollars a month or huge.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
And thousand talents is a Chinese Communist Party program to
pay money to again researchers, scientists, professors, deans of academic departments,
and so forth, to rope them in, to lure them
in to collaboration with the Chinese Communist Party. And when
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they don't report that income as they are obligated to
do by the university, if not by law, then they're
they're they're compromised, and then the Chinese can hold over them. Well,
you know, you violated, and if you don't do what
we want, well that that just could come out publicly.
You know that's right they.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Do, right man. The mafia worked the same way. Yeah,
you kill somebody and then if you do, you we
own you now because we could turn you and a time.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, but then we find out you know that there
are many, many of our senior scientists, researchers, professors, and
so forth ensnared in this thousand Talents program. Remember what
was it about a year ago or maybe it's two,
something like sixty two if I remember the number right,
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Chinese scientists departed wait for it, Los Alamos Right Nuclear
Laboratory and returned back to the Chinese, the Chinese People's
Liberation Army from whence they came? How on earth do
these people pass background investigations in the first place.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
They didn't, They absolutely didn't. We were asleep at the wheel,
or we acquiesced to it. Somebody got paid one thing
or another. The Chinese are fighting from every front. They're fighting.
We're going to see stories coming out very shortly about
what's happening to the Internet. They're going after the Internet,
and this is happening all on every front. We've got
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to be more diligent, We've got to be more awake.
That's why people like yourself are so important to read
your works. That's why it's so important to go up
to defend the border and some of the other organizations
that you work with, because otherwise we're in the dark.
We've got to be shouting this from the rooftops so
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that people are aware and are awake on what's happening.
I don't want people woke, I want them awake.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, exactly what the Chinese are doing. I mean, you
nailed it. Their Arskine, which is what the title of
their book was, back in nineteen ninety nine unrestricted warfare.
And if you go to the middle page of that
book or so, there is a list of a couple
dozen areas of warfare that the Chinese consider normal part
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of their arsenal, right, and it includes, as you would expect,
military conventional warfare, technological warfare, but there's also diplomatic warfare,
economic warfare. Oh, by the way, biochemical warfare is listed,
information warfare, and so forth, and so across the entire
span of our society and of our societal institutions. The
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Chinese Communist Party and the PLA are as I said
before infiltrating, co opting.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Look what they've done with their Project Society. Look what
they've done there, Silk Road project. Look what they've also
done with the other one that is taking over the WHL.
Now we were out of time. Somebody wants to get
in touch with you. How can they do it, Claire, Well.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Please do for beginning, go to Defend the Border dot org.
But you can you can look for my writing at
places like the United West, American Truth Project, lots of places.
I'm also on social.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
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