Ep.249 Visions (Throwback)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
It? We don't want to.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Report every thirty one. Do you wish to report a
UFO over, Hey, we want to one of those areas
thirty one. Do you wish to find a report of
any kind of it? I wouldn't know what kind of
reports clouds areas thirty one me neither. There were seven
one top golf if.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
It was actually above us to pass us, like thirty
seconds ago, we.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Were sending one top of golf native, Okay.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Off this the UFO. Yeah, it's murdered two nine o'clock. Yes,
if you passed over, I go. I don't know what
it was, but it's from at least to three thousand
feet above us. See, I passed out over the top
of us.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Ninety one one.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
You just called both to be be four.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes he.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
To God on an unidentified.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Object, every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified
flying object.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
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You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hello everyone, and welcome to this show. How are you
all doing this week? I'm Nick Canta and this is
the UFO Chronicles podcast. We start this episode off tonight
with Cameron in South Australia ring a possible gray alien encounter. Then,
staying in South Australia, we hear from Bevin about some
paranormal encounters he has experienced beginning back in the nineteen eighties,

(02:11):
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(02:32):
You can also find a link in a description of
this episode below. Any help is very much appreciated. Now
on with the show. Hello Cameron, and welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh, thank you for having little.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Thank you for coming on today. And you're calling from Australia.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, calling from Adelaide, South Australia.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Wonderful. Now, Cameron, you have some experiences to share. Would
you like to start at the beginning please sir.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, sure, so probably where I'll start off. So it
was in two thousand and six, so about seventeen years
ago now, which is crazy to think, but I remember
I was at school and it was about lunchtime and
one of my friends, Bois, he just sort of started
mentioning something. He was sort of talking to a group

(03:33):
of other people, and he's sort of quiet in down
a little bit, but I sort of persistent to find
out what he was talking about. And he told me
about something called Grays, and he goes, you ever heard
of Grays? Maybe aliens sort of the picture record painters,
like if you've ever seen that sort of South Park
with the aliens on there, And he basically said, just

(03:55):
me telling me, telling you about about Grays would make
it more make you more susceptible for them to make
their presence name. And I'm not a very skeptical person.
I don't believe in a lot of that stuff. So
I think it was either that night or the night afterwards.

(04:16):
I was going to sleep and I had heartburnens so
I couldn't sleep, so I was sitting out watching a
Spartacus movie. I was looking it up before. I think
it's the two thousand and fourth Spartaka's movie, and yeah,
that's where I forgets a bit weird, I guess. So

(04:37):
as I'm watching this film, something comes into the room
and I can see it between the TV and myself,
and it's like its hand was out towards my face.
There was a really bright light around it, so I
couldn't see its faith details or anything, but I could

(04:57):
tell that it handed out. And I felt like this
wave of energy or like a sound wave that seemed
to start from the top of my head and then
sort of slowly move down from my head all the
way to my toes and then up again. But the
whole time I was completely paralyzed. I couldn't move a finger,

(05:20):
but in perpetual fear as well. It was terrifying. I
actually found a sound like snippet just because I'm pretty
hard to explain, it kind of sounded like that if
you remember the dial up internet days and you had
to connect with dial up, similar to that. Obviously, I

(05:41):
couldn't find the exact sound, but from what I could remember,
so it's just going.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
To add on a lot with.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, yeah, just keep in mind as well, it's not
the exact sound but something that's pretty probably as close
as I could find without getting into details which probably
aren't important. And if someone's had a similar experience, I'm
sure they be able to sort of paint the picture
of what the sound was like.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
But this is the best second phone.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Sound sort of thing went on for a few minutes
from what I remember, and then the rest of it
is a bit sort of foggy. I believe I was
talking to some type of entity at a cafe or
a restaurant something there like that appeared to be outside,
but as the conversation ended, I was back in the

(06:56):
chair that I was sitting in, and it was not
like I was waking up. It was like I was,
you know, still awake, and I could all of a
sudden move again, and it was I've never had another
experience like it. I've never had sleep paralysis, I've never
had feeses, epileptic bits or anything like that. And they
just seemed to be coincidental to what my friend was

(07:18):
telling about two days after that. Yeah, so I guess
that most of my story.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, good stuff, And this coincided with a conversation with
your friend.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, my friend Boris, he told me about these things
called grays and he literally said, just me telling you
about them. He said they were like telepathic, and I think,
you know, if they were on my mind, maybe they
you know, appeared because I was thinking about them. One
thing that does come to mind, as well, as my
mum's house is on sort of like an edge of

(07:52):
a gully and you can see all basically from what
if you know that Gordon grab is all the way
to where the ocean is, so it's just and gully.
So it's possible maybe I saw a ship or something
and just me being aware of a ship flying past
and they had to erase my memory. I'm not sure,
but it just seemed to call one yeah, with what

(08:14):
Bora said. And like I said, I'm not a skeptical person.
I've never I don't believe in ghosts and all that
kind of stuff. But it's just to this day's just
a question that I want to know if other people
have had something similar, perhaps around the same time as well,
two thousand and six, and it'd be interesting to see
if people have had similar experiences.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So if you have get in contact and you had
no experiences prior to that or.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
After no nothing, that really. I mean I've had a
dream or something, but you know, a dream. But yeah,
it's definitely the strangest thing that that happened to me.
And I think a lot of times when I've told
people just get gooseb I'm thinking about you know, the
whole thing was just like terrifying. Really, I mean, not
nothing able to move any mind schools or that was

(09:01):
probably one of the scariest parts about it is that
it had me at its will. It pitted me down,
and it's like it was scanning my body. I don't
know why it was scaring my body.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But yeah, and do you have any idea of how
long this experience lasted for.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I have a feeling that there was. Yeah, there's a
period of time that I don't remember. And another thing
which is slightly weird about it as well, as I
had a bruise or I think it might have been
two bruises on me, And there were like really odd
shapes and I had no recollection of how I did.
The one was like a triangle shape. But I don't

(09:37):
think I was abducted. But then I don't, you know,
like I said, there's a period of time where I
don't remember, so but I've definitely never had an experience
like you know, when you wake up, you know you've
waken up. It was like you've been awake the whole time.
It was very complete.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
And have you heard anything from other family members of
anything similar to this happening?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, be honest, I haven't really told a lot of people.
It's just because probably obvious reasons. I think I'm crazy,
But yeah, I don't think I've even told my mum,
to be honest, I've sold a few close friends and stuff.
But you know, it's especially being older now, it's just
sort of almost laughable. But I think, as a lot

(10:19):
of people would probably say i've seen in your show,
I know what I saw, and I'm not a you know,
skeptical person, and there'd be no reason for me to
make this up and be thinking about it for this one.
So I guess that's why I sort of reached out
to you to see if I shared this, then perhaps
people have had similar things. Maybe they haven't spoken about

(10:39):
it much easier, but they want to know as well,
and you know, trying to work out what is going on,
because I think there's no denying with what we know
about universes and multiverses and how many stars and planets
there are, there's pretty much theoretically impossible for us to
be the only ones out there.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
You're absolutely right, and if if our listeners out there,
I've had an experience which is, you know, like a
one off, very similar to what Cameron has get in contact,
because just like anyone else, everyone wants answers.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, I look forward to her potentially people that have
had similar experiences. So I've researched this and specific on
the details, and I can't seem to find anything on
Google the same kind of experience. It's almost like it's
suppressed or something.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, people do get in contact. I mean we've
got such a vast archive of experiences, and we've had
tones before. I'm not sure if about anything like DIALP.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, it was like a line, so obviously the sound
came through my ears, but a line like started like
a scanner I guess from my head and then slowly
down all the way to my toes and then back
up again like a straight line. Again, if someone's had
the same experience, I'll know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. Sometimes it's difficult
to put into words certain feelings, and so yeah, well,
you know, like I said, I can put out an
episode and I'll get a ton of emails of people
saying I've just had the same experience, or this happened
to me, or you can do his hope that someone
else has.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I mean, I guess I'll end it here. I barely remember,
you know, what I exactly ate yesterday, and this happened
seventeen years ago, and I can still remember, you know,
if I could brought what I could details.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, these experiences tend to stand out a bit.
I'm exactly the same. I can't remember what I had yesterday,
but so much happened twenty thirty years ago, No problem,
something that stands out like this.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
The second freakiest thing I guess that's never happened is
I died in a dream month and I've met what
I imagine would be Jesus. But it's moreover a religious
sing then your pothing.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
So you can put it on if you like. I
get plenty of ones like that.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, yeah, it's from the same sort of time period
from me, maybe two thousand and five or six. So
I died in a dream, I think I got eaten
by a bull shark down on my body, and my
friends were obviously upset, and they all went back to
our other friend's house to sort of have like some
type of wake of memorial or something. And I was

(13:10):
in the car with them, but they couldn't hear me.
It was yelling, you know, I could hear me, And
after a little bit of that, it was sort of
driving me crazy or making me scared or something. So
I decided to get on a bus to the city
where I thought they'd be a larger number of people
and I'd be able to hopefully see someone that could
see me. So I got on a bus and I

(13:31):
went to Rundle Mall and I was running down I
had ever been to Adelaide the mall's balls, but there
were just thousands of people yelling and yelling and yelling
and no one. No one could hear me, And all
of a sudden, I see this Jesus liked figure is
the best way I could explain it, sort of hailing

(13:52):
me over, and he said something along the lines of
you know, I'm here, just take you where you're supposed
to go, etc. And led me into us a stairwell
and about halfway up the stairs, I felt right, so
I turned around and I started running away. And the
last thing I remember in this dream was two girls

(14:13):
as I've gotten to this park, and they could see
me as well, and they said the same thing, and
it was I just believed them straight away. And the
last thing I remember was Jesus liked to go with
It's like one hundred thousand of the craziest, scariest demons
I can imagine, And as they as sounded into heaven,

(14:34):
the hands were basically almost on me. And I woke
up and I figured that must have been a wake
up called to you know, if you don't change who
you are, and then this is what you can expect.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Interesting and you have much of a religious background.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, definitely do, but I think at that point
of my life it sort of strayed a little bit.
But needless to say, after that kind of dream, my
face became a lot stronger and still have a pretty
strong faith. But I'm not one of those people that
would force it upon other peoples. They don't want to
talk about it or like it. But I myself feel

(15:12):
like even that experience as well, with the gray and stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That I know this.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, I've seen something else there. Whether God is
an alien poor, whether we're an alien to the universe
or something, I'm not sure, but there's.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Definitely more out there, so interesting. You know, I hear
a few similar accounts like this, and most of the
time that the background with people's religious faith doesn't seem
to make a difference. You know, I've spoke to completely
atheists before that have sent visions of Jesus in dreams,
and yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I think some people sort of have the mindset of,
you know, if there's the existence of aliens, that proves
that God and Jesus isn't real. But I think it
almost proves the opposite. But no matter how smarts how
much they are, so they'll never be able to work
out where everything came from. Someone had to make it,

(16:06):
or you know, something had to be there from the beginning.
It's as logical to say that something made it as
to say that it's been there for all of the existence.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
A right, Yeah, I'm incighted to agree with you on that.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You are more than welcome, Cameron, no worries.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, thank you very much. A good night.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
You enjoyed the rest of your day and we speak soon.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right.

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Speaker 2 (17:07):
Hello Bevan, Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Hi Nick, great to stay with you.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's great to have you joined us today. And you're
calling from the state of Victoria in Australia.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I am, yes, in Apollo Bay.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Apollo Bay, Apollo Bay. That's along the Great Ocean Road.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It is on the Great Ocean Road. Yes, very very
close to Cape Otway, which is the lowest point on
the mainland of Australia. It's be beautiful, Da.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's absolutely beautiful. I traveled around that way back in
the year two thousand. I left Melbourne and went to
Geelong and traveled all along the Great Ocean Road, stopping
off actually in Bell's Beach, and I think we stopped
talking Apollo as well for a bit of surfing.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
You no doubt you would have. Yeah, I'm pretty lucky
to be here. It's beautiful slot, beautiful part of the world.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, now, Bevan, you have some strange experiences to share.
Would you like to start the beginning please, sir? Sure.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
A couple of dates on these I'm not quite so
sure about because they started when I was pretty young.
I've written down in nineteen eighty nine, So in nineteen
eighty nine, I was seven years old. And this story, well, no,
they're not stories, these are experiences. And I'm up at
my nana's place. Is it up in a small town
in northern and I'm just a little kid. It's nighttime.

(18:22):
There's a family about having a barbecue in the backyard.
It's dark, and I'm just a little kid. I'm like,
I'm going to say, about seven years old, and I
just was looking up into the sky and what I saw,
you know, well, I didn't tell anyone about this for
quite a long time. We're actually, you know, for many
many years actually, but I looked up into the sky

(18:44):
and saw it filled the sky. It was a full
blown image of Jesus, Like what I thought at the time,
I was just a little kid. Also, my nana's house
where this happened was a very Christian house. You know,
there was a crucifix in every room, very Christian related house.
So I looked up into the sky and it was

(19:05):
this sky filled image of a classic old image of Jesus,
the one where you know, he's sort of lift he's
got his hands in front of him and he's pulling
apart you know, his heart, you know, his heart is
there and he's like opening his heart, sort that classic
old image. That's a pretty old Christian image. And I
looked up and that was I don't know how long

(19:28):
was looking at this for not very long at all,
but that happened. And I didn't actually tell anybody about
that because it was I knew it was weird, and
so I said it. Kept that one to myself for
many many years. And it wasn't a clear image in
the sky. It was morphed into the sky. It was
there was no clouds in the sky that night. It
was pretty clear, but the image had color and it

(19:48):
was sort of waving, and you know, it was a
part of the sky basically. And there's also you know
something else that potentially happened in the same year, so
I'm not really too sure of timeline of this. That
something else also huge happened in ninety eighty nine, but
I'll I'll relate back to that when it's more relevant
in a couple of stories, so that could be relevant this.

(20:10):
So then I'm going to fall forward past forward two
years to nineteen ninety one, and that's when my grandmother
died and my family and I were staying in a
house on the night of her funeral, was staying in
a house in that town, and so I would have been, yeah,
ninety one. I was about nine, and I was going

(20:34):
to bed. It was very late at night, and I
was going to bed, and I was in a bunk.
I was on the top bunk, and I don't actually
remember falling to sleep at all. But what I do
remember was looking out the window and seeing my grandmother
standing outside the window looking back at me, and I
was staring at her, and she was a bit translucent.

(20:56):
This wasn't a full body form, and I felt it
was one hundred percent real, and I was I got
really upset, and then the next thing I knew, like
my mum and my dad were there and my family
and were sort of, you know, telling I've had a
dream and whatnot. That sure as hell didn't feel like
that to me, Like I really genuinely feel as though

(21:16):
that was a very real thing, and she was standing
there looking at me outside the window. This is the
night of her funeral. So that's that one. And again
I didn't tell anyone in my family about that, or
anyone at all. Only a lot of these stories have
come out in more recent years when I've been getting
them all together, you know, my upbringing and teenage years,

(21:37):
twenties and thirties, where I've just had a pretty bad
experience with nightmares, to be honest, and right from when
I was a little kid also had terrible nightmares, which
was awful. But there's been a couple of dreams in
particular that have been very repetitive dreams that I've had
loads and loads of times, and for some reason, I
feel like there's more to those dreams I've had, just

(22:01):
like most people have had a billion and wacky dreams
that don't you know, mean anything or you can't make
any sense out of. And I just I haven't really
looked into my dreams that much, to be honest, But
I don't, you know, all of those crazy dreams that
we all have, I've never really and that I've had
to me have just been dreams, Whereas I've got a

(22:21):
couple in particular that they just don't feel like that,
they feel like something different. And these are the repetitive
dreams that I've had. And I've had many dreams of
like lavitation and flying, but there's these other ones where
I've had loads of times. I used to have these
dreams probably a lot through my twenties. Basically always it's
like me looking up into the sky. In my dream,

(22:42):
I'm looking up into the sky and it's always in daytime,
and there's other people around, and I'm busy, you know,
just maybe a street setting or whatever, and I'm looking
up into the sky and I see these ships flying
through the clouds and they're just moving along, not that fast,
you know, kind of but they're kind of just moving
through the sky, and they're like they look like a

(23:03):
cross between like a cargo ship and like a military
ship and like a truck, like a semi trailer truck
that looks like a if you can visu something that's
more full of those things together and these things just
they have a cargo as field to them. To me,
they're like cargo ships or something, and they're it's like
cruising through the sky. And there's you know, maybe three

(23:25):
at most that I could see at the one time,
and I'm looking around to other people like saying, oh, what,
like what are these like? Don't you? And other people
don't see them, and it's just me seeing these things.
But those dreams loads of times the same sort of
the same sort of dreams, but that I've actually never
really looked into dreams that much. They used to get

(23:46):
cracked out of me, to be honest, and because of
a bad experience with nightmares as a kid. So now
I'll go fast forward to year two thousand. This is
a pretty pretty some of these things that started to
happen was in the year two thousd them. I'm eighteen
years old and I've got a girlfriend and she had well,

(24:08):
you know, a few months after we were going out,
we started messing around with holding a seance because she
had done this a few times before and with her
friends previous. Me knowing her, and I was super super
skeptical about this. For the stuff I had never delved
into that world at all. I'd never really thought about

(24:28):
the spiritual world or anything like that, and I was super,
super skeptical, to be honest. And she was telling the
stories about, you know, how her and a friend had
contacted people and had spoken to people, and I was intrigued,
that's for sure. And at that time, I was, you know,
open to anything, anything new, So I was on board.
And but yeah, it was just the two of us,

(24:51):
and yeah, we held a first stance. It's one night,
and initially nothing really much happened for a sort of
a couple of minutes. But then you know, instantly someone
was there and we were contacting someone, and I could
tell very clearly that it wasn't my girlfriend moving the glass,

(25:12):
because it was a strong, strong force that was moving
this thing across and spelling out, you know, And we
had a notepad writing down what it was saying. And
we were getting, you know, names and dates that you know,
go back centuries and random names that didn't necessarily mean
anything anything to us, but lots of different names and
dates that anything from you know, like seventeen hundred is

(25:33):
up to like nineteen fifties, all sorts of things. But
then and I was blown away. To be honest, I
was completely blown away because I'd never experienced anything like this,
and you know, this was opening my whole brain up to,
you know, stuff that I didn't even think as possible. Anyway,
we're getting random names, and all of a sudden, someone

(25:55):
else comes through and spells out the name dominic And
I won't say his last name. I respect for the
family he spells out. I'll say his last name is
Dominique Donaldson. So I get very very emotional when this
name comes through because now I'm going to link back

(26:15):
to nine eighty nine I was talking about before, because
back in nineteen eighty nine, my best friend at school, Dominie,
died and it was a really horrible thing that happened,
and he got meningitis and it all happened super super quick.
And I was playing with him one day in the
classroom and we were throwing chalk up into the fan

(26:36):
of ty chalk and it was flying everywhere, and he
just all of a sudden started violently vomiting, like super
super something like I've never seen before. It was really
really full on. He had to go straight through the
hospital and then they got airfline to Melbourne and he
died the following day and it was meningitis and it

(26:58):
was horrible, but I was pretty I didn't really have
I don't really feel any grief back then from it.
I just knew that there was a very, very sad
thing that happened, and that was horrible. So anyway, I'm
now doing a seance, yeah, with my with my girlfriend,
and all of a sudden, it's Dominique, spells his name,
and I lost my ship. I was so emotional. I

(27:23):
couldn't believe that this, you know, that this was being
spelled out, and I had to then explain to my
girlfriend who that was. She had no idea who that was.
Told her who this was, and she couldn't believe it,
you know, And so that was just a name. You know,
I need I need more proof.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Now, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I was. This was only my first time doing a seance,
and all of a sudden, now I'm apparently speaking to,
you know, my best friend who died when we were
like about eight years old. And so yeah, I was
all over the shop and I was always now asking
more questions and I need more proof, and I'm asking
him all sorts of questions, you know, like what's your

(28:00):
parents name, you know, where do they work, and your
sister's name, and all sort of stuff, all this sort
of stuff that I know he was you know, every
single thing that I was asking was just being spelt
at perfectly, absolutely nailing it, like there was absolutely nothing
incorrect at all about any of the responses. And he
would also ask us stuff, you know, and we were
having a conversation. Now now, I'm just went out having

(28:23):
a conversation with my friend who had died, and it
was very, very emotional and completely you know, mind blowing,
to be honest, and we ended up ending that sales
and I was just I was just really really emotional
that night. I just couldn't believe what had happened. And
I remember going home and I remember seeing my sister

(28:44):
and she saw me and she said, what the hell?
I used to look like you've seen a ghost, And
you know, I sined what had happened? And yeah, I
was just I couldn't believe what was what had happened,
and I knew what had happened.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It was all very very real.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
And that was the end of that. Over the course
of the following weeks, we ended up doing heaps of
seances like, oh is now you know, I was. I
was into it, and so over the course of the
following weeks, we ended up doing quite a few more
and we were speaking to Dominique many many times, and
it was crazy, like I just couldn't believe this stuff

(29:20):
was happening. And I tried to go pretty you know,
I tried to go deeper, wanted to know where he
was and all these types of things, but I wasn't
really getting many deeper answers. It was it had to
be reasonably shallow. The best I got out of him
was when I asked, are you happy? And he said yes.
I was pretty extoical that. So this is this is

(29:41):
in like two thousand and one now when this is
happening and I'm doing course, this is I'm just out
of school and I'm doing this like of course, like
a performing arts course. Anyway, I'm at a party one night, right,
and there's a bunch of people around, and this girl
didn't know who was in a different course literally just

(30:03):
like started kissing me out of the blue, and I
was like, oh wow. And we kissed for a couple
of seconds, right, and then I had to stop that.
And I was like can't do this. Sorry, I've got
a girlfriend. And then that was the end of that, right,
And it was only a matter of a couple of
days later that we were doing a seance again at
least at my girlfriend's house, and were again having contact

(30:29):
with Dominique, and just, you know, similar to the previous say,
we were just having a conversation in general chit chat,
and I was not chit chat. I was really wanting
proof and I was still asking more questions about his
family and things like this, and he Dominique replied, and
he asked me. He spelt out, are you just kissing Bell?

(30:52):
And Bell is the name of the girl who kissed
me that night, just a a few nine months ago.
And I was just like, what am I getting busted
in a seance for kissing another girl?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Because this is.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Happening right now. And I did not know how to react. Honestly,
I think I brushed it off somehow to my girlfriend, saying, oh,
I don't know, I don't know what this is, even
though everything else that he was saying was absolutely spot on,
you know, there was zero mistakes and now it's just
busted me for kissing another girl. And I could not
believe that that happened. And I still can't believe that

(31:30):
that happened, but it happened. And yeah, man, like that
just blew my mind that that happened, because it also
meant that, you know, he sees everything and that he
watches me and he knows what happens, and you know,
it's just it was incredible that that happened. And that was,
you know, the last of the sort of stories that

(31:53):
I can remember from doing seances with Dominique at that time,
because you know, after a while ended up parting ways
with that dolfriend and then a couple of years later now,
so I'll fast forward to like, actually, no, I will
just go back to another thing that happened in that house.
There was another thing that happened in that house one day,
same house where used to hold those seances. I was

(32:15):
in the lound room one day and I was gone
to walk from the lounder room just out into the
hallway and there's a glass sliding door in the wall
of one that just rolls along like an old fifties
frosted glass. You know, it's just someone on the other
side of the glass, like you can clearly see and
It's a pretty light or pretty light door, you know.
It's on those old rollers and you barely put a

(32:37):
bit of pressure on it and it just rolls along.
So I've gone to walk over to the door, and
I put my hands on the handle, and it was
as if there was someone on the other side of
the door who grabbed it and just went wash and
like they took my arm with it, like they opened
it for me, and they took me with it, you know.
And I was looking straight through like there was no
one there and there was no one else in the house,

(32:59):
and I was like, oh my god, like someone totally
just took that door and just took me with it. Yeah,
that happened. That's kind of gave me a little bit
of a little bit of a fried that one. Yeah,
fast forward a couple of years. Who what are we
about now? Two thousand and three, So I'm now this

(33:21):
is in a different town. This is now happening in
a Polo Bay where I live now. So yeah, two
thousand and three, I'm working in the pub washing dishes
and I'm talking to the waitresses. The really really super
super busy pub keeps the waitresses a super busy kitchen
and I'm the dish pig and I'm chatting to the

(33:42):
waitresses and I'm telling them about the story that I
just said about values to contact my friends who had
died and all that sort of stuff, and they were
just like, you know, jaws on the floor, completely mind blown.
And these are local girls, and they were like, okay, well,
this is you're coming around to our place tonight because
we want to contact our friend who died probably you know,

(34:03):
he is earlier a local person in a really tragic scenario.
And I was super, super skeptical, like I did not
want to. I shouldn't have I shouldn't have done it,
but I agree, and I was like, all right, I'll
come around, because they were super you know, they really
wanted to do it. They really really wanted to do it,
and I said, we can do it. I'll come around,

(34:25):
I'll make up a board. I'll come around and we'll
see how we go. And I shouldn't have done that,
but I did. So anyway, we've clopped off for the
night and I've gotten quickly like gone home, and I've
made up made up the Luigi board out of I
don't know anything, because you don't need it, and it
doesn't know what it is. But I've just gone and

(34:46):
made up a board out of cardboard or whatever, and
I've gone around to their house and I'm going to
change the name of this person that they want to
contact out of respect for their family. I know her
whole fam anyway. So yeah, I've gone around to their
house and there's about five I think there was five

(35:07):
girls and met all the waitresses from the pub, and
I lit a candle and I started this thing, and
I've told them what we're going to do. And I
knew that. I knew. I just had a feeling that
you know, it was going to it's turned pair shapes,
and I knew that people are going to get emotional,
because that's what's going to have first time people experience
these types of things. And like it happened to me,

(35:29):
and I didn't want to upset anyone, but you know,
they were insistent that we do this. So I've initiated
this seance right and again, very similar to my first.
It was just a bunch of names and dates and
stuff like that we're coming through and they were all
completely blown away that that was happening, first of all,

(35:51):
and then after a little while a different name came
through and I don't know, I don't know the name,
but it was one of the girls great grand parents.
And yeah, anyway, one of the girls breat back down
parents and that's when you know, things got a lot
more emotional, and that girl was really upset, but also
just mind blown. Everyone's crying, and I was just I

(36:14):
felt bad for bringing this on to everyone, honestly, and
I was really glad that the girl they were trying
to contact didn't come through. But I ended it. I
was like, I think we've you know, this has done enough.
I felt bad for making everyone upset. So I've ended
up going out the candle on that that was it.
And I've gone home, and I've gone home and gone
to bed, and this is probably I don't know, maybe

(36:34):
like eleven thirty at night, going home, and I've gone
to bed, I'm asleep, and then what happens next is
the most terrifying thing that's ever happened to me in
my life. Man, Like it's real. So I go to sleep.
So at about two o'clock in the morning, I left
by myself by the way, So about two o'clock in

(36:55):
the morning, I got woken up to a voice in
my head and it's a girl's voice, and she's saying,
don't ask questions, don't ask questions, don't ask questions, don't
ask questions. She's just repeating that over and over and over,
and I am absolutely, I think I've lost the plot.
I've thought, oh my God, like there's a voice in

(37:16):
my head that's not my own thought, Like I've officially
lost the plot.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
This is not good.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I was terrified, absolutely terrified, so just for my own sanity,
even though I was completely you know, awake, and I
knew what was going on, and it was so real.
I was sitting up and this girl she's just repeating,
don't ask questions, don't ask questions, and she's actually, it
was getting faster and faster and faster and faster, and

(37:41):
it went on and on and on, and I am
lying there or sitting up in bed, and I'm just
I'm terrified. Man. It was you know, it was not okay.
It was very very fast from okay, and it was
getting faster and up to the point where she's pretty
much yelling at me now and she's like, don't ask questions,
don't ask questions, don't ask questions, and I'm like, holy shit,
like this is getting really really intense, and I'm not kidding.

(38:04):
This lasted for I didn't know how to end it.
So it went on for, you know, probably about two
hours of me the most terrified two hours of my life,
that's for sure. And yeah, like I'm lying in bed
with this girl screaming and we don't ask questions. Don't
ask questions. And then after a couple of hours, it's
like four o'clock in the morning. Now, after a couple

(38:24):
of hours, I just had this moment of absolute clarity,
right like it was just like a light bold moment,
and I was I wouldn't say I was calm, because
I was terrified still, but I had a light bold
moment where I knew exactly who it was and I
knew exactly what she was telling me. And it was like,
I said, I'm going to change the girl's name, but

(38:46):
let's say it's Jess. So I knew that it was
Jess who was speaking to me and who they were
trying to contact the girls earlier. And at the same time,
I just knew that it was her, and she was
literally telling me don't ask questions, like, don't do something.
Just don't mess with this stuff, basically, and I took
it very very clear because I was terrified and I
knew that that's what she was telling me. And I

(39:09):
literally like I yelled out loud and I said, I
spoke back to her, and I was like, I'll never
do it again. I promise never do it again. I
will never ask I won't ask questions.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'll stop.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
And just like that voice went away and I felt
fine and I was not scared anymore because I knew
what had just happened. I knew who that was, I
knew what she was asking me, and I knew that
I was going to keep that promise that's before and
I would never do that again. And I haven't. That's like,
you know, over twenty years ago now, and I'm sure

(39:41):
as I would never touch that again because I've got
a message, like very very clear. She froightened, it cracked
out of me, and yeah, I would never do that again.
And you know, it's a beautiful there's a beautiful cemetery
here in town where this person's buried. You know, it's
a really nice spot to go up and check out
to do something times And if I'm ever up there,

(40:01):
like I thank her every single time for real, because
she really gave me a really really important lesson that night.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
So that was you know, that just frightened the shit
out of me, Like that was the most terrifying thing.
But I'm just glad that I knew what it was
in the end, that I knew how to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Anyway, that's that one, I guess. So there's another thing
that happened, and this is actually not an experience, like
paranormal experience or anything like that, but I'm just going
to slip it in in about two thousand and four,
I should stay. I'm a a I'm at an art
gallery opening, like an exhibition opening out of art gallery.

(40:40):
That's a thing.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
There's people standing out on a footpath a glass of
wine in hand, you know, talking to other talking about things.
You know, that's sort of scene. There's this old lady,
like an old manner, who I've never seen before, from across,
like from across the whole crowd. She's just staring at
me like she's just she was just staring at giving
me the eye in a really nice way, but she

(41:03):
was just she had you know, we locked eyes and
she was staring at me, And after a while she
walked over to me and she says to me, you
don't have to worry so much, and then she there's
you know you're psychic, don't you. And actually, I don't
even know what I said back to her, to be honest,
just because I was little taken back and I didn't

(41:23):
know how to react. For real, I didn't know how
to react. I think I have. I actually had no
idea what I said back to her. I don't think
I said much at all, if anything, but yeah, like
I totally thought about her a lot. Moving on from that,
that's for sure. So we'll move on forward. Now what
have we got? So we're in about two thousand and

(41:44):
seven now, I'm living in Melbourne on and off, So
in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote. Used to go around
to my friend Mark's place for a beer, you know,
on a Friday night or on a Friday certain all
afternoon after work beers on a Friday afternoon. So I've
gone around two Mark's house and it's like, you know,

(42:04):
to last five on a Friday afternoon. I've only been
at his house for like, you know, probably five minutes
at this point, I've just gone in and said gooday.
We've walked out into the backyard and I've grabbed a
seat and we just talked for a couple of minutes,
and then Mark Scott de tried to grab a beer
and he was only going for like I don't know,
you know, fifteen seconds or so, twenty seconds whatever. But

(42:27):
within that short period of time, I was sitting at
the back and I'm looking up at the sky and
what I saw, why across the sky like at rapid
rapid speed. Yeah, like ridiculous, ridiculous speed. Nothing nothing that
of this earth, that's for sure. But what I saw
was this shadowy, smoky, hooded demon creature thing I've never

(42:51):
I only learned the word dementtor for a few weeks
ago when looking up this stuff that I'm not a hab,
quite a fan, never really been into it. But when
looking up images of what I saw, type you know
what I saw, and then images of the demental came
up and for real, like it's just exactly what I saw.
I can't describe anything different than the classic dementa or

(43:14):
the image. And it just flew across the sky like
super super quick, as if it were you know, just
and it was gone. And there's no way that it
was a it was a funny day. There were no clouds,
no wind you know, even if you know, if it
was windy and it was at a garbage bag, there's
no way it could like that to be like this was.
This was a creature, demon, smoky, demental thing that just went,

(43:38):
you know, and just flew across flew across Northcot in
two thousand and seven. Anyway, that was I didn't I
didn't tell my friend about that when it came out.
It is not really so much on the level he
just would have thought I was nuts. So like most
of these stories, they go under, they go under the
wraps and then you know, you dig amount years later
to the right people. So, yeah, that happened. That was

(43:58):
a good one.

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Speaker 1 (45:45):
So skipping forward a few years now to two twenty fourteen,
and this part for me is absolutely crack up because
it's just it's a shared experience. Luckily, it wasn't just
me saw this. My wife and I both saw this.
And if this was one of those things that if
you saw this by yourself, you probably wouldn't tell anyone.

(46:06):
You think you have totally have just made something up,
like people would not believe this. But that's why I'm
so stoked that there's a shared experience. And this completely
opened up my mind again to what was possible because
this is something different altogether, and also to my life.
It wasn't my wife then we were engaged. Yeah, it

(46:27):
completely blew her mind. And basically this is in a
calla bay where now, and we're just sitting in a
little small backyard, tiny tiny little we lived in a
unit and we're just sitting in this tiny, tiny little
courtyard backyard surrounded by fences, and you know, you've got
this guy up above you. But that's that's about it.

(46:47):
It was a blue sky day. There were maybe a
couple of tiny fuffy clouds in the distance, but not really.
It was pretty much just a clear sky, blue day,
clear boost by day. And we were looking up into
the sky and this is about lunchtime, by the way,
it's probably only about midday or one o'clock. We were
just sitting in the back out of the chair and

(47:09):
we're looking up at the sky and we're both looking
in the same area of the sky, and I started
to see something and I knew something was happening. And
I stared at what I saw for a probably I
don't know. It's really hard to gauge time, and there's
things that maybe like somewhere between ten and twenty seconds,
and I was locked on this, and I then looked

(47:30):
at my wife and then fiance, and I could see
that she had also seen something. And I didn't want
to say what I saw, but I was so glad
to see that she had seen something. And I said
to her, like, have you just seen something? And I
could tell her look in her face obviously, and she
said and she's like nodding her head like yes. And

(47:50):
I'm like, oh my god, because what I've just seen
I do not understand. And I'm really hopeful that we've
seen the same thing. And we were both described what
we saw, and luckily we did actually see the same thing.
But I've really struggled with this one because it's really
hard to put any kind of explanation to like, I'm

(48:12):
sow into this subject, and I listened to accounts. I've
listened to thousands ofccounts or whatever and all types of things.
You know, it would be far easier to explain that
we saw a UFO basically, because that would actually, you know,
oddly enough, be far more common. But it's just not
like that. It's not what we saw. Unfortunately, that would
be awesome. But what we saw or was it sounds

(48:34):
nuts and we saw basically it was like an image
and vivid photo quality image. I was about ten wolves,
like a pack of wolves, basically that all of their
heads like there weren't really bodies, bought his heads and

(48:54):
they filled this section of the sky right that I
don't know if it's perspective, say, if you're sitting down
and you hold up a piece of paper or like
an a four, like more like an a three. If
you hold if you're sitting down and you hold up
a piece of a three paper, it's a section of
sky that it filled with like a pretty decent sized
section of sky in a blue sky day, crystal clear

(49:16):
image of about ten wolf spaces. There was no color.
It was just black and white. But it was just
like what like what the hell? Like hell? You know,
Like I said, it would be so much easier to
explain if it was a UFO or if we saw
a bunch of rbs or a black triangle or whatever.
But because I just haven't heard of anything really similar

(49:38):
to this, to be honest, and that just doesn't make
any sense to me. I don't really like the idea
of simulation theory, but I don't know. This one has
got me stumped. And I'm so stoked that it wasn't
just me. We experienced this. And I did make an
image and I sent it to you. You know, we've
recently tried to create a couple of images and some

(49:59):
of the things that I've seen, so I did send
you that one. And even though I'm really bad at editing,
and the image of the wolves is in like the
oval shape. If anyone is going to like, if anyone
ends up seeing image, you'll see that it's in like
an oval shape. Just forget that it was just blended
into the sky, just these wolves faces just blended into
the sky beautifully, as if it was we were looking

(50:22):
into a different dimension. Honestly, it was like it was
so out there, and I'm so glad that it wasn't
just me who saw that. I haven't really told anyone
about that. I don't really talk to people about this stuff.
Like you know, many of your listeners will know. You
keep this stuff yourself until you find the right people.
That's why your show has been you know, awesome. Really,

(50:44):
So I've been really back into this subject a lot recently,
obviously been documenting all of this and putting it all
into a timeline. So this has been on my mind
a lot, all of this stuff recently, and I've been
putting a lot of brain power into it. My wife
has also, and she's really tapped in and there's totally
you know, feeling a lot of stuff herself, which is

(51:05):
really really cool. But anyways, like maybe three about two
weeks ago, I'm putting ways to bed. I'll put a
two year old, beautiful boy, but I'm putting him to sleep.
This is like about quarter past eight, about three weeks ago.
Of course that's stayed at night. I'm putting my little
fellow to bed, and I'm thinking about all of this stuff.

(51:27):
I'm thinking about all of these experiences and all of
this stuff, and I'm thinking about all this stuff. This
is where my brain is at, even though I'm in
a dark room and I've got my boy, I mean,
and I'm patting him on the back, and I've got
a blanket over us, and it's a totally totally still room.
I'm patting him to sleep, but I'm thinking about all
this stuff, right, And I basically put a message out there,

(51:49):
and in my brain, I didn't wasn't speaking. I put
a message out there, and I basically said, you know,
if there's anything or anyone out there, feel free to
to let me know and and let's do it. So
I think and basically, within like a half second, as
soon as i'd finished that thought, like one of my

(52:10):
son's toys is like moved across the floor as if,
you know, if someone had just kicked it. Like there's
a few plastic toys on any toddler's floor, and it
was just as if someone had just walked into it
and just kicked it. And this plastic toy just like
stuttled across the weatherboard floor, and that was instant, you know,
like I asked for it and I got and I

(52:30):
got it straight away and so much so that it
gave me a little bit of a fright. And then
I said again like in my head and I said,
oh my good, Like I like, thank you, but I
don't want to I don't want to get scared, but
thank you. Yeah, Like that was just you know, you
asked and you know you might receive, and in that
day that that was pretty clear. That was very very
instant when it happened. So now they're given to it.

(52:51):
That's only three weeks ago. So we've been talking a
lot about all this stuff in our house recently, and
it's also seems to be just creating more more events,
to be honest, because since I've documented all this stuff,
all of a sudden, there's just like it seems like
daily now, which is just a few little things like
as so much as like up until a few hours ago,

(53:12):
to be honest, but like yesterday, no, sorry to another one,
Like there's one today, another one yesterday, and then there's
other one from about a week and a half ago,
right where my son who is such a special little dude,
Oh my god, like he was just he's in his dummy.
He's in a little onesie. It's nighttime. He's wearing a onesie,

(53:33):
and he was just he was holding around him like
this towel sort of thing. It was just this small
poleef towel. It's got no pockets or anything like that.
If it is his onesie, there's no pockets anywhere. And
he was just he was actually wearing running laps around
the kitchen day were holding the little things. And that's
my wife and I in the kitchen and our little man. Yeah,

(53:53):
running laps around the kitchen table. And then all of
a sudden, he stops right and he just like he
hands me. It's like it's like he put his hand
in his pocket, but he put his hand inside, like
inside this case sort of thing, even though there's no
pockets anywhere. And we'd also been with him for like
the last twenty minutes. There's no way he picked up
this stuff for it. It just wasn't wasn't possible. But

(54:15):
he just stopped in front of me. He put his
hand in like into this, you know, as if there
was a pocket there, and hands me this plastic coin,
which isn't even from our house. It's from a house
where where my wife works, like as a house where
she claims. It's from a different house. It's from a
different property. It's not from me. He pulled out this
thing in his hands to me, and I said to him, I.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Said, what where did you Where did you pull that from?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
And as soon as I said that, he put his
hand back in there, right into the same spot and
he pulls out a train like this. It's probably like
fifteen center meets a long plastic train. And my wife
and I were just like, oh my god, like and
I'm like, dude, where are you pulling this from? My
wife said, but I'm not ready good, and you know,

(55:01):
if he left the room, and I was just yeah,
he's a special little guy. That cracked me up. It
was just it was mary popping stuff. He was just
pulling this stuff out of absolutely nowhere. Like yeah, that
people who both our minds. So that was yeah, that
was just you know, a couple of weeks ago. But

(55:22):
then there was looking here. So yesterday, I mean, I'm
digging out a new veggie bed. They were going to
play tomatoes and stuff, digging out a new veggie bed.
Got my son out there with me, we're waiting for them.
I wife to get home if she's been at work
afternoon to do home at any point, who were out there,
and we've got our backs faced to where she would

(55:44):
walk from. We're out in the backyard. We've got our
back face to where she would walk from if she
was to come home. Even though if she was to
come home, I would have seen her first anyway over
the fence. I would have seen her car rocked up
and her walk the driveway. But anyway, that didn't happen.
We were just digging into the ground and I saw
someone move around through the trees behind me, through the

(56:05):
fruit trees, and I didn't turn around. I just assumed
that it was my wife because she was due home.
And even though I would have seen a car rolling,
whatever reason that didn't come to mind. I didn't turn around,
and I just assumed that it was my wife. And
then I thought, oh, cook, she's probably just come around
and just seen that I'm out there, little.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Fellow, and that we're okay.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
So she's probably just like gone up to the house
for a quick sect, you know, get changed, and then
she'll come out with like totally normal. So that cool.
That's you know sort of why I did turn around,
so just assumed it was her. And then a couple of
seconds later I did turn around, and I thought, cool,
let's go up, and let's go up and find one.
So I've taken a little fellow up to the house

(56:46):
and I've looked around, looked out bradway, and the car
was not there, and there's no one and there was
someone there. And when I would not necessarily someone, but
I feel that there was something there. When I actually
think about it, it wasn't actually a person that I
saw at all. It was just there was a white

(57:06):
you know, I guess a spirit or something, but it
was just white like this is obviously out of the
corner of my eye. I didn't turn around, so I
saw this out of the corner of my eye. But
this this thing moved through the trees, just as if
it was my wife's coming home, moved through the trees
and then stood there and then sort of moved back,
and it was just it was all white. And that's

(57:27):
all I've got from that. Also, I just wanted to
mention with the thing that happened when I was putting
my fellow to sleep coup with strong feeling as if
that is, yeah, one of my wife's friends who died
tragically about ten years ago and who she feels very
very much and really you know, missus her and I've

(57:48):
had very strong feeling that was her. She's with us
quite a lot, actually, So we had the backard Lady.
I think from yesterday last thing is to this one
is just ridiculous. And this just happened a couple of
hours ago because I've been thinking about this stuff so
much recently, and now I feel that because I'm thinking
about this stuff so much, it's like things are happening,

(58:10):
you know, it's like I'm creating these events. So I
just think a couple where hours ago, I get home
from work and I'm thinking about speaking to you doing
this it's been really great. And so I walked into
the kitchen and a banana is just like was moving,
like it just rolled like it was as if there
was someone standing there and they just put the banana
down and then it just had to like settle itself,

(58:33):
which you know, there was a completely still room and
that's not a rocky like fruit bowl or anything like that.
They were sitting there and I just walked in and
it was like it just moved through a quick half
second and I squatted it and I cocked it, and
I was like, okay, here we go, Like all right, well,
just because I'm thinking about this stuff tonight, I'm thinking
about having this conversation and yeah, it's just like I'm

(58:56):
creating events, it seems. I guess that's pretty much it,
to be honest, Like sie experiences, I think I've I
think I've pretty much crossed them all off. There's a
lot more, you know, than I initially thought when I
first started a few months ago writing down all the
things that had happened, because I just had a few
in line, like the main big ones that said would
pop out, and then I thought, oh no, I've actually

(59:17):
got all these other things as well. So I thought
once I actually wrote them down, I was like, holy crap,
I actually got like an easy handful of experiences here,
Like I need to actually write these down in order
and get on top of it and just keep these events,
you know, and actually have the experiences on papering. And
you know, it turns out there's a lot more than
what I initially thought, which is interesting. And what's happening

(59:40):
in the last few days. Yeah, bring it on. It's
just like more and more it seems.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Well, good stuff, Bevan. We you know, we're glad that
you did write them down.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
So much going on, man, there is a lot going on,
and it's all quite random and different things.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
There is a bit going on interesting. But we're going
to you know, we're going to we're going to connect
the you know, these wolves in the sky to your
nineteen eighty nine vision in the sky. Maybe I'm not
sure you said you saw the form of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yes, yeah, so that was in well, I'm going to
say it was about non to eighty nine. I actually
don't know, but I would say that I was about
seven years old when I saw that. So I think
about that one a lot recently because, like I'm not,
I was raised to Christian I come up with a
pretty old school Catholic family. I'm certainly not a part
of that anymore, that's for sure. I despise the Catholic

(01:00:33):
Church anyway. That's a whole other story. But that image
I have struggled with throughout my life because I don't
necessarily believe in Jesus. But you know, since gotten into
these topics and I've become to learn a lot more.
I understand that might just be a sign sent from
someone else, or you know, things imagery can be perceived
as different things, so that can also be I say,

(01:00:55):
I was about seven, but maybe that was two years
later when my grandma had died. I mean, I saw
my grandma. Maybe it was also around that time, or
maybe it was also in nineteen eighty nine when my
friend Dominic died. That happened in that year, you know,
like there was the exact timeline is a bit is
unclear there, so I can't nail what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
And yeah, we're not talking about seeing the form of
Jesus actually in the form of a cloud.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
This is a completely clear Yeah, the Jesus thing, and
absolutely not neither of these things that I saw was
especially the wolf thing. Like neither of these things was like,
oh like that that crowd looks like a rabbit or whatever.
Far from it like this, you know, vivid image. And
the Jesus image was color. And this was at nighttime,
so it was you know, it was a crystal clear

(01:01:44):
night and up there it's like there's no life looks
at all, like stars are shining. It's really open. And
this was a full blown you know color image, which
is actually the classic image. Like if you look up
old school Christian images of Jesus, it's like a classic
image is probably from the you know, thirties and forties, fifties,
like there's so many images that represent the same thing,
where he's holding his cloak open and his heart there.

(01:02:07):
That's what it was. That's what I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah, And it was the full form of Jesus, not
the full.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Form, pretty much like the same that you would see
in the pictures, like a classick framed picture that you
would see in a very patholic house, which is exactly
where I was, you know, from the waist up. So
I think, just like a Torso sort of image. I think, Yeah,
it wasn't the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Full full body, okay, And could you make out details?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah, absolutely, like it was. It was very very clear
what I was seeing, and yeah, absolutely have to make
out details. And the sky was still black around it
stars and it's like this thing, it's like I was.
I guess I could see through it. I guess it
wasn't like a solid image or anything. That's for sure.
It was a part of the sky, you know, it
was almost translucent, but it was it was a part

(01:02:55):
of the sky and pretty much filled the sky. It
was huge. It was just massive, Like I was looking
up and it was because it filled the sky. You know,
I was just a little bit. I didn't know what
the hell was going on. I just sort of kept
that for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I wonder if anyone else had seen this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Well, honestly, not at that particular party, because like I
was a little kid, and everyone else is still up
about to go to bed. You know, I've got older
cousins and uncles and arnies and everything, like this is
a big family party. There was a lot of older
adults up in my partying in the backyard. You know,
they would have been if anyone was going to see it,
they would have all seen it because there was a

(01:03:32):
lot of people there. But I was sort of in
my own little world, just like looking up at the sky,
and I don't know if I saw it. Maybe it
was just for me. Maybe it wasn't there for everyone else,
and maybe maybe it was just for me. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
There's a course, over the years, there's been people which
have witnessed apparitions in the sky, whether it's been of
Jesus or of Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
It's tricky it's tricky because I struggle with the Christianity
aspect of it. And even though that's just how I've
been brought up, the imagery that I saw is a
classic image. It's not like a saw. You know, I could,
I could google the image. I actually have made an
image of it. I'm sorry, I got to so I
actually have made an image of it, and I'll send
it to you, because I think I've made one of

(01:04:13):
the wolves, and I've made the demental image. No, I've
made one of the g image. I'll fire it off
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, do that and I'll put that on the website. Yeah,
I've got the wolves as well. And again, the wolves
are an interesting one. Does wolves have any anything to
do with you in it at all?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Nope? It really puzzles me and my wife, No, it doesn't.
Since then, you know, like we spot like if we
see an image of wolves, will like send it it
to each other and oh yeah, our mates, you know, like,
but no, like we know, I just can't think of
anything that relates to the image, what it means to us,
or or how it's even possible to see something like

(01:04:51):
that in the sky. This is you know, I kind
of wish it was something different like a UFO because
it would be so much easier to explain, to be honest,
because this one's really really difficult to explain. I find
it really hard to explain this fine, and I just
I certainly don't tell people about this, that's for sure,
is they think you're nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Well, it's important to share it because you could be
one of many which have sins of being like this
and everyone else right there saying the same thing. You know,
I haven't told no one because it's so strange thing, anyone,
believe me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I've got your image right here, and it's just
different profiles of wolves exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
So in that image, it's very close to what I saw,
but it was more vivid, like it was. It was
a photo quality image what we were looking at in
the sky, like it was clearer than that. And yeah,
the edges of it sort of just blended into the sky.
Really didn't necessarily have a shape, did the image that
I guess the edge of the image was the shapes
of the wolves, you know, like the all the shapes

(01:05:49):
of their heads and everything like that against the blue sky.
So they were, you know, they were like a black
and white image, but just yeah, crystal clear photo quality
image of that was like I don't know, it's hard
to say how many, but like approximately ten. Yeah, all
his head. It was just incredible. I can completely blew
my wife's mind absolutely, but yeah, of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Course, yeah, it's a good thing that it's a shared
both managed to see this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
No, I'm really really storked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I mean, the question is, you know, do we have
that kind of technology where we can project images like that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
I mean, nope, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Back in the night, is you know, I would definitely
have said no these days, if someone does have this,
the type of tech, you know, it wouldn't be just
your next door neighbor, or it wouldn't be someone down the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Road had been Absolutely not a sophisticated gear, Absolutely not,
especially where we live, Like it's it's a very small town,
you know, down the Grados around here, Like that sort
of gear doesn't even exist. From what I know, I
can't project an image into a like a hot sky,
like a hot summer's day blue sky, I can't project
an image into that, but I know of I mean,
this is a remote, you know, small town, like partway

(01:06:57):
from the sea anyway, like, it's just not even feasible,
to be honest, there was something else that we thought
and I wish I could explain it more, but it's
a difficult one to explain that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, of course says it. You know, there's that conspiracy
theory with Project Bluebeam projecting images in the sky to
make people believe some of them, whether it's religious icons
or an aiding invasion. You know, but right this is
strange because you know wolves this would be surely would
be the talk of the town. I mean it was
a large image.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Huge, yeah, huge, a big section of the sky done
my head in over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
So to our listeners, if you've experienced something like this,
no matter how strange the image is, do get in contact,
because Bevin would certainly not like to be the only
one him and his wife absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
I'm started to said that because I've been listening to
so many different accounts on your show and some of
the things that people are saying. I really wish I
could remember this guy's name. But there some people talking
of the day that Bop was talking on one of
your old and he was talking about things that he'd seen,
and it just made me feel so much better. About
what I've seen because it makes no sense. It just

(01:08:05):
doesn't make any sense. But he saw it, and what
he saw his wife also saw, which was fantastic because
I was like, oh wow, another husband and wife, this
shared experience and what they saw was off for shame.
Like he was describing his wife was describing like a
bunch of like Christmas presents coming towards the bed or
something like that, and he saw they was saying the
same thing, but to him it was represented as something different,

(01:08:28):
keyboards or something. But it just doesn't make any sense.
But they knew what they were seeing. It was very,
very real. It made me feel so much better about
some of this stuff, especially well obviously the wolves thing,
because he does two things that I saw inspy, like
the dementor and the christ thing. At least you know
it's crazy, but at least I know what they are
and I can relate. I can't relate to them, but

(01:08:50):
you know I can explain them easia than the wolves thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I've repeated this on probably two or three occasions on
the episode. Now, I've said to people, don't leave anything
out if even though it sounds completely strange off the charts,
say because there is a good chance that someone else
has experienced the same thing, Like, don't leave that out.
Don't just give us the experiences where you know, we
accustomed to listen, whether it's just UFOs and the occasional ghost,

(01:09:17):
you know, if it's completely crazy to you, tell us,
because I guarantee it, you're making someone else, you know,
like yourself, feel better for what they've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Agree.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
More so, would you say you're susceptible to certain energies
and experiences? Would you say you were psychic in any way?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yes? So yes, but I do feel that, but I
don't want to tap into it, to be honest. So
I definitely feel my took tricky one because oh man,
this I absolutely feel things I don't necessarily. I kind
of just don't want to tap into it, to be honest.
I feel enough on an over and that's being as

(01:10:01):
as told as it is. I think I'm feel en
us as it is, and some of these experiences, you know, incredible.
But yeah, I do feel stuff, and I feel I
definitely feel really followers to try and tap into that
a lot more. I think it's all right there in
front of me, it's all right there. I kind of

(01:10:22):
hold back to be honest on that. Really, what else
to say on it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
You know what they say just because you just because
you can, doesn't mean you should. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Absolutely, And I'm always told very very strongly you know
that I shouldn't. Well, that's that was specifically not messed
with to say out dou believe and you would And
a lot of time, you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Know, when you do open yourself up to these kinds
of things, especially if you've got a lot going on
in life, family life and work life, some of this
stuff can get very overwhelming. You know. I've spoke to
many of psychics over the years, and they, especially the
ones which are not doing it for a profession, they
just have everyday lives difficult. You know, you're in a
room with your child and you're trying to put them
to bed, and you've got spirits coming in and want

(01:11:01):
you to want to tell you stuff. That kind of
thing I get a bit much for.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Some people, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
And of course, you know I never say that people
don't hold sounds is don't mess with weigie boards. You know,
people are free to do as they please, but people
should always be aware of kind of what they're dealing with. Really,
what they can kind of bring into their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
That's really I can't believe people is to think of
it as a toy. That's just wild because it's so
tough from that and people have no idea of the
power of that, or people that don't even believe that
it's real until all of a sudden flowing some really
terrifying things happen to them, and a lot of people,
it really messes with a lot of people up and

(01:11:41):
you know, my experience a bit it was just, you know, wild,
completely wild. And then I'll give it a very very
strong message to not do it. And yeah, I'm definitely
definitely listening, that's for sure. It's good to absolutely crack
out of me. I thought I was insane for two
hours and it was screaming at me at the end,
so don't do it. And then I knew who it was,
and I was certainly going to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
This happened for two hours straight. Don't ask questions, don't
ask questions.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Yeah, yeah, uh huh, two hours. I can't believe it
when on for that long. But I don't really know
it just I don't think I knew it hadn't occurred
to me yet. Who it was, I guess and or
what it was. I was just in a state of shock.
I was in a state of full on shock that
I was. I thought I was insane, So I was

(01:12:27):
just in shock. And then you know, yeah, after about
two hours, it's like four o'clock in the morning, you know,
and then it was just it was just like a
light bulb moment where I knew who it was, I
knew what she was telling me, and and it ended instantly,
and that was it. That's just a scary thing that
happened to my life. And you know, I've certainly warned
many many people. I was not messing with Weezi boards

(01:12:49):
because of that. It's just that was terrifying for me.
Do what you've got to do, and you know, find
find things out and explore whatever you have to do
your things. But you got to know some risks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Yeah, if anyone out there and you you are getting
involved Wiji boards and that, just be aware, read up
on it first. Unfortunately that a lot of the ghost
TV shows that I've been around for the last few years,
you know, they do it all the time, you know,
and it's kind of commonplace. Whereas before, you know, mess
over wheel board was kind of just only done at
sleepovers and hanging around a haunted haste with your friends.

(01:13:21):
But it's not something rich really to be taken lately.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
No, Well, for me, it was just, you know, it
was just one of those things. It wasn't a party thing.
It was just a you know, I'm young, opening the
mindset everything that's out there, and that was just one
of those things that happened to be one of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Literally all it was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I certainly didn't have any interest in it before, and
I was very, very skeptical up until only a couple
of minutes into doing the first line and I realized,
holy crap, everything's now not how I thought it was,
which is one of the hugest things to take away
from that, because you go home. I went home that
night after speak my friend right to had died, and
I was just like, what the hell, Like everything that

(01:13:58):
I've thought, you know, is is possible, or of things
that you get told you know, what happens to you
die or whatever, just like everything was just completely out
the window, and I was charging full into finding out
new stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
The things we do when we're younger.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Absolutely, yeah, I don't regret it. I don't regret it,
even though that was terrifying, and it's a great experience
to talk about. I don't talk to anyone about this because, yeah,
like I said, yeah, you know why that Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
It's all good, all good, all good. I mean, of
course everyone froze around the term demon, this demon that
you know these days, which I think is yeah, a
little bit over top, it over on a lot of
these TV shows, but you know, it keeps the viewers
coming back week after week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yeah, I don't like that word at all. I think
it's a terrible word. It's just you know, some old
Christian words. It's been overused, you know, billion times, and
time for something new, I think, because yeah, I don't
really I don't relate to that word at all. I
guess that's probably what it is to me. I just don't.
I don't feel anything that's demon related, you know, I

(01:15:03):
don't feel that at all that word. If it was,
if it was something like that, I would probably find
a different word, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I agree with you there. You know,
we've got enough problems in this world. You know, you're
still having things happen up until you know, up until today,
pretty much. Yes, and your boy, you've either got a
future magician there or a little uri gala.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah, he's a special little guy. He's a special little dude.
I definitely I feel like he has taken on, you know,
a lot of stuff that I feel and I think
he has that one hundred percent. I don't doubt that
in the least. And I don't know what happened the
other night with him, this film stuff out. It just
seemed too unusual to be honestly, especially the second thing,

(01:15:52):
which was quite large out of nowhere. There were no pockets,
and there's no way this stuff could have been like
stuck to his clothing or anything. That's just impossible. It was, Yeah,
like Mois and I looked at it like we felt
that it was something else, you know, like we really
felt that it was something else. And I guess that's it.
You know. We looked at each other and she was
just like, what, I'm sorry, not ready for this, and

(01:16:13):
if she was out of there in a good way,
like she want to freak out that bad, but she
loves it. He's so on on board. But that was
that was pretty faun to see stuff like that, you know,
and physical stuff is something else and not to see
something physical, I guess. And again tonight like that was
a physical thing. I walked into the into the room
and the banana's moved as if someone's just dropped it.
And yeah, there's something physical like that in broad daylight. Yeah,

(01:16:37):
that's something else, and I don't really have those. That's
that's very very new. Actually that's only the last of
a few weeks for these couple of things have started
happening to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Well, keep us updated if anything else does happen. Yeah,
we'll do. They have an interesting stuff and hopefully you know,
I'll get emails back about somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Yeah, great, and I'd be secretly here if anyone's got
anything to say or similar stories, especially the wolves thing.
I need some I need to know what's going on
there a big time. The demental thing, I've heard many
other people describe exactly that thing, so that just makes
a lot of sense to me. But the wolves thing, yeah,
I love to hear if anyone have experienced anything like

(01:17:17):
that anyway. Yeah, that's been great to have a chat. Nick.
I love your podcast. It's really cool to have the
opportunity to tell these stories. Sorry, experiences have changed that
word in my head because yeah, like many of you
listeners know, you don't talk to people about these things
and you keep them hit them inside, and you know,
good to get them out there because this stuff has happened,

(01:17:37):
and everyone knows that this stuff has happened whatever whatever
it is that they've done, have experienced, and it's like, yep,
it's happened. So you don't have to tell everyone about
it because some people will think enough, So that's okay,
just tell the right people, like like on here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeah, you've got it. It's my pleasure to hear these accounts.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
I really appreciate you coming on to share that for
our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Really really great chat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Nick, It's been great speaking to Okay, keep in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Contact, thanks a bunch, Thank you bye for now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
That's all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with
the show on x, Facebook and Instagram, And if you
have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,
you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
or you can reach out to me via the contact
page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

(01:18:25):
big thank you to Cameron and Bevan for sharing tonight
and as always thank you all for listening. I will
be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep
watching the skies. Goodbye to

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
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