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Our first guest we have tonight is Julian, and he comes to us from Columbia in South America, and Julian will be sharing four of his UFO sightings. Then we head to California in the US to meet Clay, and Clay will be sharing several experiences with beings, UFO sightings and his spiritual awakening, and strange symbols that his Father would draw while in some kind of trance.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report
a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,
we want to one of those data areas thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Areas thirty one me neither there were self.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
If it was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,
OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
I go.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
See, I passed right over the top of.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Us ninety one one. We just called both to be
be four.

Speaker 6 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
He is, I sear to God more calm on an
unidentified object every Liberty four call or calm on an
unidentified flying object.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
All Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you
all doing this week? I'm Nick Hunter and this is
the UFO Chronicles Podcast. Our first guest we have tonight
is Julian and he comes to us from Columbia in
South America, and Julian will be sharing four of his
UFO sightings. Then we head to California in the US

(02:09):
to meet Clay, and Clay will be sharing several experiences
with beings, UFO sightings and his spiritual awakening and strange
symbols that his dad.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Would draw while in some kind of trance. Julian is
up next. But first, if you enjoy the show and
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(02:41):
a link in a description of this episode below. Any
help is very much appreciated. Now on with the show,

(03:05):
a lad, Julian. Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Hi Nick, how are you?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm good? Thank you, wonderful to have you come on today,
and you're calling from Colombia.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yes, yes, in South America. Beautiful country as our region,
as our planet.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I hear it's a beautiful country and you're from Bogota.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yes, Bota is the capital district of Colombia.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Wonderful. Did I say that right?

Speaker 6 (03:36):
The last a has accent ah Bogo ta. Yes.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Now, Julian, you have some UFO science to share with us.
Would you like to start at the beginning please?

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Okay, I'll make a little introduction about me. I am
from Colombia. For to be more specific, I'm born and
live in Bota as in was. I am an agnostic person.
I study for a meanst two years journalists. In my life,

(04:08):
I have never seen anything about parallelmal activity.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Or UFO phenomenon. Forever look interesting for me.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
And when I in twenty twenty one after plandemic crisis,
I was having problems in my life and I hed
lot with my mom and then one day I just.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Said leave my home and in my bike aross the
city from north to so.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
I live in Suba Kahlida or neighborhood is big is
more bigger than neighborhood than our passed the municipality of
Swacha for being more specific the Thecondomic Faults is a
high waterful of bo hotel. Writer locate the in thirty

(05:00):
two kilometers south west in Boada. It's aknown Sadly's place
and known for suicides. People decide jump to the others,
but it is it's a really nice place, but the

(05:24):
smell is so awful.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
And passing this place, it was two and a half am.
Because I have I had an accident in my bike.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
I'm walking with my bike outside me and I saw
literally a black way in the sky near to me,
at least one hundred meters.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
It's really impressing for me. But I very in this moment.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't feel feared, I feel anxious, I know feel bad.
I didn't feel bad that that was my first sighting.
I have four sightings, two sightings the same night or
the same day.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Then history this day should be returned to the first sighting.
To be more specific with with the description of the vehicle,
it was a black play with four circles orange orange
reddish color, another one more bigger in the middle. His

(06:39):
bicle didn't emit any sound and moved slowly on the balls.
The circles turn slowly too. I'll continue with the circum siding.
The see that was it was a light red light
reddish as a play as a circles of the play,

(07:00):
and in this moment I was thinking it was shooting start.
But the color isn't any similar in photos photographs you
can see a shooting star is white or a little bit,
but never red or reddish, orange or similar. This object

(07:24):
start to fly normal normal in in the horizontal straight
but in the terminate moment start to erratic movement, to
make an erratic movement that the goal or star or
light since me in that moment makes me feel more

(07:46):
scared than before.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
When I show the play, I don't know for what, but.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Is it the third siding? It was here in Bogota Sua.
I have a with the of the blast two sightings.
I will tell you where I start. I was in
a like balcony with a friend named Niklas. I told

(08:15):
him my histories about you, that you were phenomenon, and
he don't believe me. It's really weird that I saw.
It's comprehenciple that the people think that I'm crazy or something, but.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I just I just want to tell the histories and
give you audience my opinion about the UFO phenomenon and
how how in danger we could be if they deceived
dibing bibles or something. Our technology is very primitive. That
I continue with sightings. So I was with my friend

(08:54):
in the balcony insula and it was I need to
aband half pm.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
The sky wasn't wasn't dark.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Were the diclimatic very clearly? But that was clearly this
day I saw a star that shine in colors. I
think that normal stars shining or flak white or black

(09:30):
or don't flick, just stay white. But this star looked
like green, hite, green, red, or and blue light. It
was far far away, but that I have a good eyes,
a good vision. I told him, my friend, if they

(09:52):
see and he was say yes, but nothing with this
moment when in the termin made moment was started to
move slowly, very slowly, and for the distance was a
little perspectable. It was difficult to appreciate or observe in

(10:15):
this moment. But I told him again if they is
seeing the same thing that I was seeing this moment,
and in the in the first time, she she told
me that see nothing the light say quiet and don't move.

(10:36):
But I asked him the light more clearly and more slowly,
and right, she's a start to see the same thing
that I saw.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
This star is moving.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
After that, two airplanes, but the first one past, you know,
pretty much near to the to the objects and nothing.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
What's happened.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
But the second one, that one, the second one passed
near to the object. I don't know for what, but
I told him that's going to disappear. And you believe me,
that object disappear without any acceleration or led a trace.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
Was really weird.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
With the same witness, my friend Nicholas, I saw the
glass siding. It was happening in Tuba for no going
to to Kota of Condina America and the municipality and Candama,

(11:41):
and it's a recate the municipality of.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Swatch some for the so well the full siding.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
It was to two stars, normally stars, I thought in
this moment, but really on the strange way these these
stars was very near and.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
I know that's an astronomical symbol, just.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Two stars near. After that, I look with my friends
the sky. It's strange to find the sky in Bogota.
Clearly it's very cloudy for example, today it was a
rainy day, pretty rainy day, and clothing this day was

(12:33):
very very thickly.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
And these stars start.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
To move in an opposite movement in the same velocity slowly,
but in the terminate.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Moment, one of these stars start to move faster. And
that was really weird.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Uh and uh as the second sept I didn't I
feel I feel a little scared to be honest. Okay, Nick,
thanks for your patience.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
It was really difficult for me.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
You can relax now you did find Julian. Don't worry
you did just find Oh.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Thanks, I have a B one level of English. Where
are you trying to improve my English too? I love
the British accent. Your accent is really nice.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Your English is better than my Spanish, so don't worry.
You know, we want to hear these accounts, and it
doesn't matter about how nervous someone.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Is or how their English is. The important thing is
is you've made the step to come on and share it.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I appreciate you. Also, I want to talk about our civilization.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
What really could represent the UFO or it's intelligent extrattera
as real life. Many people think that the ufo phenomenon
is fantasy or something. But I am in a diagnostic
I don't believe in gods. I don't believe the religion
is modern mythology. There are many gods around the world.

(14:08):
But I respect any any beliefs that I think that
believe is necessary to believe. Even you are if you
are actors, you need believe in something. In the humanity,
in love, I don't know, but I respect different way
to thinking expressions to faith. But many people, if they're massive,

(14:34):
view for siding as as I is so in a
new Narasian curally new about our prophet that say, the
very of may happen amasive, you go sidling. I don't

(14:54):
believe in this. I believe I could believe more if
he would be more specific time or vacation in the
world as a prophet. The talk about earthquakes, what happened
if the AMASU cited? The people still believe in in

(15:19):
e good or thinking. Our origin probably comes to another
origin or we have another origin. I don't know that
this is very interesting I think about it. The most
important for me is what danger for us is the

(15:42):
intelligent restical life, because if they could.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Make space draft or spaceship to.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Besite us or our planet. They might have I think
weapon really very very powerful. Our weapon most powerful is
the nuclear poond. But the human as a race, I
don't believe in grace. I at least I think really

(16:14):
there's a race human race within as a human race,
we we could start to think more in hunion, no thinking.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
In the wards.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Instead we could think in explore the universe, working ridge
like velocity. We just reached the sound or break the
sound velocity. But these objects I think have transdimensional As

(16:47):
I told you in the second in the second history,
the movement or movement of this object was very erratic
after be norma and disappear after accelerat But in the
in the third siting, it wasn't happened and they disappeared

(17:13):
without any acceleration. And I think that the aliens might
be have technology transdimentionment. They probably reach or break the
light velocity because it's really difficult to travel in the space,
and our physics and math could be primitive from the

(17:37):
the disciplines in another world.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I really I just want to give an advice as.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
A human the ure phenomenon normally taking as a fancy
that for me is very related to science.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I think you're absolutely right, Julie. You know, I think
if people have all got together and connected and put
their heads together instead of fighting, because human beings can
be very violent and very corrupt, and unfortunately these leaders,
they're no good for humanity. You know, we're not going anywhere.
If everyone connected, if everyone joined hands, we would be

(18:17):
capable of so much more. We would be so far
ahead than we actually are now, instead of just fighting constantly.
I think if whoever's in control of these UFOs, I
think if they were a threat, they would have been
a threat a long time ago, and they probably just
would have wiped us out, no problem. I think there
is probably benefit they have to earth. I'm not saying

(18:38):
they're all going to be good. You know, there's a
good chance that some are going to be bad. Some
we'll be negative. And you're absolutely right. A lot of
people do think it's fantasy, but it's happening. People are
seeing these objects, having these experiences all over the world,
especially in South America. You know a lot of people
are seeing these on a daily basis in South America.
So to our listeners, if you're in South America, you've

(19:01):
seen or had a strange experience emailing because you want
to hear these accounts. We have had a few around
South America, but we always need more.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Oh yeah, yes, but the people feel shamed to tell
the Even the third sighting that I told you, I
told her to practice my storytelling, but obviously in Spanish.
And one the guy friend of my friends save me

(19:32):
that he listened in the same place happened some UFO sidings.
But more than this, I believe don't listen much about
UFO sidings. I think it's similar to find treasures or

(19:52):
money or a wallet street if you look up is
more probably ah, and declimatic factors I could to observe
is very probably you.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
You could see sighting so strange lights.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Absolutely, And so before you had your UFO science, you
didn't have an interest in the subject.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yes, yes, I loved my whole life. I really loved
sci fi films and another history. But as a robot,
Isaac Asimov have any day once idea about automatons, robots,

(20:38):
much of things that exists today. Firstly was thinking of
if you're thinking more about our ancient cultures, they might
have contact with UFOs. But the mainly question is what
would be the reason or why they visit us while

(21:03):
they looking for us of our planets water goal. I
think the goal has war because we believe in it
in the same form they weigh as money. But the
water is very very necessary to live and we as

(21:24):
humanity we waste the water in challenge of social media
or something in our houses. But it's important the source
to survive. And I don't know what reasons do would
have to be seit us.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Water is the life source. It's very possible that, yeah,
that could be what they're after, you know, if they
don't have a good water source from where they're from
or where they are traveling in between, and it's a
good chance that's what they are. Interesting. We have a
lot of UFO signs above rivers and lakes in the sea,
above the sea, usually around water quite often.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I don't know for what could be useful for the
water is very extrange element in the universe or in
our galaxy.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
You know it's our galaxy.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
There many galaxies and neither we cannot get out our galaxy.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I really feel about the power they.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Might have and it's necessary to the governments as the
facial station or together to protect us.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Even the movie the Uration movie of DiCaprio. Don't look out.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
It's really nice. It's really it's a really good film
about power. Independs. We are against any natural planetary phenomenon
being work together or work in improve our technology and
our vehicles.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
We we are a lot.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
There's there's always a threat from you know, asteroids hitting
the planet. I mean, we do have a lot of
close encounters with objects quite regularly, and of course there
was the famous one which came down, you know, not
too far from from you, you know, the big asteroid
which apparently wiped out the dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
So there's always, you know, there's always that threat. There
definitely has to be some kind of protocol in place
to deal with such things. But at the end of
the day, some of these objects.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
That do pass the Earth can be very large and
I would imagine very hard to change their course with
our technology.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I think that that we need start to educate the
people in Colombia is a particular political situation. I don't
talk much about it, but the youngest generations get out
to ask for right. If we wait for a best

(24:12):
place to live as a planet, we need educators. We
need learn about the universe, about three six, about many,
many topics. I think it's necessary that people learn English
is the universal language as the films. I think if

(24:34):
in determinate moment, if the Aliens Pacific race, or or
the different races be Pacific, English probably be the language
to communicate with.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Would they. I think it's a bad It's just a bad,
but probably happen.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Education is key. Yeah, they could speak English. Many people
have had encounters have said they spoken English to them.
I've spoken to people who reside in South America that
say that being spoke to them in Spanish. So who knows.
I mean, you kind of think that any advanced race
would speak many many languages to be able to communicate

(25:17):
and connect with people on Earth.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Our history is unprevent against any threat that happened in
the in this planet, in this beautiful plant.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It seems that the way things are going now that
the biggest threats to the planet are people waging wars
and destroying the environment. It is terrible, but hopefully things
will get better and people will start to wake up
and also start believing this stuff. It's not all just fantasy.
You know, these things do happen, and we have to

(25:53):
educate and learn and and then have more faith in ourselves.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Believe is very important to live or fight to live
or survive.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
If we still follow that it was for oil or
something that prisons people with power decide by probably don't
to extinction in this moment. The aliens can take the
planet easily. It's this crazy idea that this is reality

(26:28):
if they could happen.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Absolutely. The problem we have is our leaders. A lot
of leaders we have around the world are not doing
things that's benefiting people at all. So hopefully the future
of mankind lies in the hands of people which you
can benefit. You know, we need to out these leaders
that are corrupt causing us so many problems around the world.
So we need people to step up, which are only

(26:51):
going to be a benefit. That's wonderful, Julie in it.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Thanks so well done. Thank you. I appreciate that you'll
tell me my histories and very black.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Now other people around Columbia and South America were now
get in touch because they won't be nervous, you know,
they won't be nervous and sharing their UFO science.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
I'm trying to improve my life.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
I still have problems, but I have faith getting better
job and study again in the college. I will like
many things that my guilty dream or my guilty target
is sometimes make mystery journalists very It's a dream for
me about UFOs, the strange things happen in these people

(27:42):
and diverse plant.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Well, you know, life can be hard sometimes, so when
people self improve, they work hard, they try and get
a better job. Everyone goes through this all around the world.
Everyone has to struggle to make things work better for them.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
So we wish you the best.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Ye, yes, I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And if you can get into journalism and write about
UFOs great.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
In Colombia and there are two mainly shows I can
recommend you.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
One is El Carga and another one is not dem Steadio.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
You can search in Google. They are very interesting.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, that would be great. It'd be good to hear
other accounts from the area. Yes, yes, Julian, I really
appreciate you coming on the show and sharing that for
our listeners.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Okay again, thank you Nick, your show. Your podcast is wonderful,
is very useful for me to improve my own listening.
And I listen previous podcasts about a Spanish guy in
the Andes.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Really nice, really nice.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
I'm glad you enjoyed it. We always need more listeners
from South America and accounts. That's great, Julian, you enjoy
the rest of your evening and we take cat and
we will talk soon.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Okay, you two have a nice day, by Julian. Bye bye, Meek.
Thank you for you in and I'll.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
See you in another time. Bye for now.

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Speaker 2 (30:12):
Hello Clay and welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Thank you Nick, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Thank you for joining us today. It's the early hours
for you as well. And you're calling from California.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yes, thor calling from Willets, California. It's in northern California.
It's a small town, probably about ten thousands.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
You've got like a national park on the one side
and mountains on the other.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah. There a want to bland here, which is land
management land, which is federal government land, and that's all
around us. And there's private properties up here too. But
we're in the right before the redwood start, so it's probably.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Pretty, really pretty, that is you know, that's a place
I've always wanted to go to.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Wonderful Clay. Okay, now, Clay, your experiences began in the
late nineteen seventies when you were a child. Would you
like to start the beginning please, sir.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Absolutely. It was around nineteen seventy eight. I was about
seven years old, and I lived in Friendly, Nevada, which
is about thirty miles east of Reno. And I got
four sisters and lived with my parents, and we were
living in a small neighborhood and we were outside playing
around and all of a sudden, you see these lights

(31:21):
in the night skyes slowly descend, and so they started
descend slowly and slowly and we went in to get
my parents in the whole neighborhood came out and kind
of watched this until you can't see the lights anymore,
and so that was kind of weird. And then that
I think it was the night of the night. After

(31:42):
laying in bed right front with the bed, all sudden
I heard these footsteps and it was dark, and it
came in and it sat on my bed. It was
all freaked me out. So I woke up and the
thing took off, went running through the house. So we
I grew up my mama. We looked all through the house.
Of course, we didn't find anything. So I thought that

(32:04):
was pretty strange. And that was my very first encounter,
and she said it was I told her it was
like an old man or something, but I don't remember.
I thought it was an animal, but I didn't know
for sure. So and then fast forward to the mid nineties,
about five friends of mine and myself went to look

(32:25):
at the moons from a telescope. We were checking it
out and I seen a star that was kind of blinking,
weird and shooting off little stuff hard to explain. That's
my telescope on it. And when we seen it. The
thing was shamed and shade, so it was doing all
kinds of weird stuff. This is in the mid nineties,

(32:45):
and I was just like, wow, what was that? And
so after that, my dad did some writings and my
and my mom witnessed together at the dinner table. So
I was spontaneously chant handled by something. And he wrote
these symbols down that are unexplainable, and I'm in searching

(33:07):
everywhere to try to find out what they need. And
he did it real quick, from top to bottom, scribbled
them out. Some people say it's on mad writing. Some
people say he's spirit writing. I've looked at he knocked
in linear a ind ancient Sumerian teeth in uniform, and
I have no idea what they I sent you a
picture of those symbols. Actually he did. It started in

(33:30):
nineteen eighty nine when my mom were coming back from
my grandma's funeral, And the very first one that he
did was in nineteen eighty nine, and my mom and
dad woke up in the morning. My mom found a
piece of paper with some scribbling on it, and she
asked my dad if he did this, and he said no,

(33:50):
he didn't. He had no recollection or even doing it,
so they kind of just she just threw it away
and just instead of keeping it. We also did a
few more to like twenty fourteen, and she kept one
of which I sent you a picture of, which is
completely different from the one with the symbols. So I'm
not sure what they mean. If somebody had to write

(34:12):
the symbols down, it had to come from somewhere. I
have no idea where it came from. So I tried
to find out what they mean by like posting them
on facebooks and stuff, and of course, you know, nobody
knew really what they meant. I've heard from it could
mean ascension, and it could mean just nobody's knows for sure.
I'll find never ever find out exactly what they mean,

(34:33):
but it'd be nice to find out. You know, how
God looked at writings and stuff, and nobody knows what
it means. I have an idea of what it might mean.
The very top symbol, it's the triangle with the three
lines underneath it, and now we got triangles flying everywhere throughout,
so it kind of, you know, couldn't even mean prophecy.

(34:56):
Who knows. I sure I'd like to find out though,
that's for sure. And then after I posted on Facebook,
a bunch of strange things started to happen, and I
was addicted to alcohol and drugs like paint holes for
about fifteen years of my life. And after I post that,

(35:17):
that comes that placed some story, and when I posted
them on Facebook, a bunch of strange things started happening
in our house, like paranormal type of stuff. I was
walking by a family picture and it just slipped over
on its own shelves for falling by themselves. In the
cabinet like that whole coffee cups and stuff, and shower

(35:39):
curtain falling by themselves, and orbs flying around too. I
saying that picture of those orbs when my dad was
playing the keyboard. And so we have a lot of
strange things, a lot of spiritual stuff, paranormal stuff. So
I'm wondering if that's where these I'm wondering if it's
the same things that channeled my dad to write those
writings things. I'm just not sure. And then started meeting

(36:03):
strange people as well. So a friend of mine picked
up these pitch hikers north of Wala to run into
his house and they stayed with him for a couple
of weeks. Her name was Pauline, and we'd just be
hanging out drinking or whatever, you know. And then one
time I seen her at the gas station and she

(36:25):
looked totally completely different from what she looked at my
friend Mike's house, and she there was no blemishes, she
looked perfect and was like blown away and she said,
she told me, this is exciting and so exciting what's
going on? And instead of asked her, like, what are
you talking about? I was just so blown away that
she looked different that, you know, I just took off.

(36:49):
And it's there's some older story in the sixties about
Valiant four about these people that are being there's nothing
wrong with the for skin or anything. So I'm not sure.
I think they were called they were from Venus or
something like that, and I'm not sure, and I'm not
sure they were from that either, but they're kind of like, oh,
it was a shell start and blown away. So then

(37:10):
the next crazy happened was I was at my son's
football game during halftime and I went out to have
a cigarette in the parking lot and there was these
two girls sitting in their car next to me, and
I was just gott these weird telepathic messages to like
open their car and ask them what's going on. I'm

(37:30):
not sure even why that why I even did that,
but I a so I opened the car door, asking
what's going on. They looked at me weird, and I
showed the door. Well that was that was kind of weird.
Why did they get that message? And all these crazy
stuff that's been happening to me? To me, I kind
of wanted my answers. I didn't know what was going on.
So I took off out of the parking lot and
I went up to the local airport called Broke Trail's Airport,

(37:54):
and these two girls actually went ahead of me. It's
like they knew where I was going and just to
kind of look at the stock for a minute. It
might I had to be back down at the game
to pick my daughter up. So these two girls opened
this chainling fence gate for me and we're smiling and laughing,
and I was all, okay, well that's kind of weird.
So I walked across the airport runway and laying down

(38:16):
at this where the wind flows. SLA can check the
wind gage from the airplane so they know which way
the wind's blown, and I laid down there on my
back and just put my hat over my head, just
started kind of crying, owing God to show if there's
a god, you know, I just wanted to show me
what was was really really depressed. I didn't know what

(38:38):
was going on. And all of a sudden, it was
a white grim hat, the hat over my head, and
all of a sudden, looking through my hat, the gallop
the stars just opened up inside my hat. I can
just see everything like the milky way through my hat.
I couldn't believe it. It was really weird. But who
were those girls who that let me in there and

(38:59):
just like, hey, come on in, you know. So I
thought that was pretty strange. And then I got I
got pretty depressed after a while. And I never told
anybody about this at all, about those girls. You know,
this was the first time actually told the story. So
I'm a little bit nervous, and I was getting depressed,

(39:20):
and I wanted to quit doing drugs. And I ended
up taking my mom's car, like on a joy ride
through through our county. So I took her car. We
went through Fort Bragg, not really caring. I wanted, you know,
if there's a God, then he'll take care of me,
is what I was thinking. And so I went through

(39:42):
called Fort Bragg, going through red lights real fast. It's
like times stopped. All the cars stopped and were like
letting me through. So I blew through a port Brag
and there was other cars following me but not really
doing anything. So I go through Fort Brag. I go
across this rewinding road and it was raining that day too,

(40:03):
and there was this car behind me that was keeping
up with me pretty good. So I'm going down this
road and I ended up losing control and hitting on embankment,
and this car behind me stopped with me, and she
she asked me if I ended up getting out of
the car. She asked me if I was all right?
I said yeah. So I got in the car with her,

(40:26):
and in her car there was dove feathers sent in
her passenger seat. Like, okay, who drives around with dove
feathers in their car? So I feel it was my
guardian angel. So she drops me off at this little
store called the Peghouse. And instead of calling my mom
to come, you know, hey, I wrecked your car, I just,

(40:47):
you know, was so blown and way by this lady
that picked me up with the dove feather in her car.
I wanted to follow her. She had taken off by
this time. I started walking north in the dark and
spired aroun eight o'clock at night, but it was dark
and it was a little bit rainy too, four miles
in the dark. I didn't know if I was dead
when I was walking. I just kept I just kept walking,

(41:09):
and finally, you know, I realized that what the hell
are you doing? Say?

Speaker 6 (41:13):
You know?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
So I ended up breaking into this little store called
Confusion Hill. It's a little trinket store. I didn't break
in there to steal any money or anything like that.
I just stroke ink soonted to ride back home. So
the cop insteads taking me to jail, and I tell
them where the car's at. So they have a tow
truck to come get the car, and I guess when

(41:37):
they found it. They told my mom it was flipped
over on the top of the tarok and I don't
remember flipping over flipping. I don't remember flipping it. I
just remember hitting the embankment and getting out telling the squirrel.
So that was pretty strange. So I ended up going
to jail, and in jail there was a bunch of
weird things that happened too. And I would hear voices

(41:59):
of familiar people that were like my friends, but they
didn't look the same. And that's what that went Pauline
and that girl at the gas station too. She told me,
don't don't you recognize me? And said, no, I don't
recognize you. You're not You're not the You're not Paulish.
But she said, well, my voice stays the same. My
voice saying he recognized my voice, said well, yeah, I guess.

(42:21):
So there's these people out there that their voices stayed
the same, but their bodies, you know, they're in different bodies.
So I had all these familiar voices when I was
in jail of these inmates that had the same voices
at my friends, but it didn't look like them. So
that was pretty bizarre. That was really weird. People think
I'm you know, my opinion, I'm crazy, But I'm okay

(42:43):
with that. So I ended up getting sober. I got
out of jail and went to a rehab in Oakland, California,
Salvation Army and also and I was standing outside some
friends and looking at the stars, and there's buildings by
two with all the stars. The whole sky also just
moved all at once, like they're right above us, you know,

(43:04):
all the time, and I think they cloak actually right.
So that was pretty weird. So I end up getting
sober in twenty eighteen and got out of rehab and
I've been sober ever since. And then I started really
meditating pretty hard. And when I meditate, I'll see a
green tunnel that's here. Late I'll be flying through it,

(43:28):
and one time at the end of this tunnel also
in the window opened up. Then I've seen Saturn black
and white. It has its very distinct it's very vivid
you can see and the rings around it, and Saturn
all of a sudden, I like fly into it. Then
I see mountains and stuff on Saturn, and I thought
that was pretty bizarre. Then I'll have like visions of

(43:51):
flying over country roads and stuff, and it's like I'm
looking through the eyes of like an eagle or something.
And these names of math names start popping in my
head when I medicaid as well, So I looked up
all these names. There's probably about four or five of them,
not all of a sudden, just popping my head. Never
say one of them is a mathematician and they were

(44:12):
all real people because I googled their name. So I've
had hieroglyphics that go by real fast. People say they're downloads.
I'm not sure exactly what it was, but these hieroglyphics
still buy is super fast and you go by so fast.
I can't I don't, I can't write them, nounce. I
don't know what they are because they're just going by
way too fast. We've also had a hat Man experience

(44:35):
as well. This one's a little bit different than most.
I think everyone's different. When I was asleep in my
bed and I got this throw a blanket at the
end of my bed that was I thrown it around
and goes to sleep. All of a sudden, my blanket
starts raising up, and this is I would mostly just honestly,
and but there's a wide grid hat at the top

(44:57):
of this blanket that was raising up, and it really
really scared me, so I to get up for a minute.
Then I went back to bed, and then another one
was calling this one like a vision or something, because
this happened right in my head to the pillow, like
within five minutes, I wasn't sleeping all of a sudden,
I see this alien walking through this corridor, and instead

(45:21):
of wearing like like an all blue outfit like a
lot of the people, this one was wearing like a
yellow shirt, red pants. It was three different colors, so
that was pretty weird. And he was just walking down,
strutting down the hallway, moving his shoulders, walking down the
hallway strutton. Then he looked straight up and so it

(45:42):
looks like I'm looking at him through a security camera
and he's looking up at me as he's walking, and
all of a sudden, he puts his face up to
the camera and it really startled me. I jumped back
on to get up from minute on that one too.
I went back to bed and then nothing else happened
with that, and then no one's kind of embarrassing to

(46:03):
talk about. But I found out that Whitley Streeber had
a very similar account, and that's the only reason why
I'm sharing. This one was pretty bizarre. I woke up
on like a table, of course, with three little gray
aliens around me, and they had this tube inserted into

(46:23):
my rectum, and, like I said, this kind of embarrassing.
But since another person has had almost the same experience,
It's why I'm sharing. So I woke up my legs,
one of my legs vibrating whenever doing this procedure, and
it felt like they took sperm from me, got up
out of bed to go to the bathroom. Of course

(46:45):
they're gone. And once I found out that Whitley Streeber,
I didn't even know about his experience, and this little
gray alien runs off with his sperm. Whatever that happened,
but it seem pretty real to me, really scared the
shit out of me. In twenty twenty, I was a
security guard and I worked the Graveyard Ship. As you

(47:09):
can imagine, I see a lot of weird stuff on
the cameras. Share a few of those. One I was
watching the cameras about two or three o'clock in the morning,
which is usually the time that things happened. All of
a sudden, there's this image of like an animal just
floating across the screen across the sidewalk, and I thought
it was our local cat, but I went outside, had

(47:31):
to check the skids out was there. The cat was
fast asleep inside of the lunch m so I I'm
not sure what that was. It was floating across the
camera and it looked like a cat to me. I
also seen a huge orb come down over the top
of my car, went down slow and just hung there
on my car, stayed there for a while and went outside,

(47:55):
and of course I hadn't see anything. Then they also seen.
I was on my break outside having a cigarette and
we had a patrol car, and all of a sudden,
I see this rainbow orb changing colors. That's inside of
the cab in my troll car. Well, what the heck
is that? So I started taking pictures of it. I

(48:17):
found you a pictures of that orbit, and on the
blue or when it's blue, you can actually see the
image of a dog inside of that window. I didn't
even know that that image was there until somebody pointed
out to me. And if you look close, you can
actually see it looks kind of like you we do.
It's kind of weird, but it's definitely there. And if

(48:41):
you look at the other pictures of the orb when
it was yellow and or orange and green with changing shapes, well,
I mean looks like a little anient head. But you
know that's I guess people are going to see different things.
And also I was out one night and I've seen
a constan elation, the Sickness constellation, which is like this

(49:03):
flushyal swan and there's a planet called Vega as part
of this constellation. While was outside one night, all of
a sudden I seen I thought it was starling. At first.
There was three stars traveling with it. Where's the white
one which was Vega, and two fainter stars behind that,
And I've seen them move for about five seconds there

(49:24):
or not, I who thought they were starling, But all
of a sudden they stopped. Satellites don't stop, so and
this was Vega, but there's also the two stars behind it.
If you really look really close to Vega, you can
see three stars form a perfect triangle. These two other
stars that were traveling with that stopped and they did
they met up with that other start and that's what

(49:46):
form that perfect triangle. And so I'm not sure. After
all the stuff has been happening to me, the synchronicities
have been off the hook for me. I always seem
to be people in the right place at the right time.
I see series of numbers all the time. One of
the cars that I bought had three hundred and fifty
five thousand, five hundred and fifty five miles on it.

(50:07):
I've seen five five five seconds twice in the same day.
I'd see four four four, three, three, three, eleven eleven
a lot. I see all of that. I guess that's synchronicity.
And that's where I'm at today. And you know, there's
gotta be a reason why this stuff has been happening,
and it started. This all started in twenty sixteen after

(50:28):
I posted those symbols on Facebook. That's my story.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Good stuff, Clay. Your father was he aware that he
was doing these drawings?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Okay? The first one in nineteen eighty nine, my mom
and dad were coming back from up my grandma's funeral
and they found it in a motpel room, and the
other time, I believed it was they were traveling one
other time, and the last two were done here at home,
and the one that me and my mom went together
was done at the dinner table. All of a sudden,

(51:00):
my dad's eyes just kind of like lost over in
the back of his head, and my mom knew that
he was doing these writings on the tap, and so
she asked him if he wanted to have a pen
in piece of paper to write and get He shook
his head. Yeah, and that's when he wrote those symbols down,
and we were both just like, that's the only one
that I witnessed someone with those symbols and he just

(51:22):
darged them down real quick. Didn't even think about it.
NER's spirit writing automatic writing, which I kind of looked into.
But nothing's been a match yet.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, I made these joints available.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I'll put them below this episode so people can go
and take a look and see if they recognize these
writings at all.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You know, I've looked everywhere and they definitely look aliens
to me. You know, I've looked up anxious Samerians, Enochian
script all that stuff, and I have no idea and
nothing's really a match. Some of them got closed, and
I would love to know what it means.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well, like I said, you know, when you know, when
you you know when you and you're seeing these symbols
and there must be some reason why you know why
you're seeing them and what relevance they have. So were
your father did as he had other things happen over
paranormal experiences or was it just the writings?

Speaker 1 (52:18):
It was it was just the writing. And I asked
my mom about that last night if he had any
other experience, and she can't recall any. It's just been
specifically these writings that he that he does and he
hasn't did any since twenty fourteen. She heard him say

(52:39):
that this is going to be the last one. So
who is that talking?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
My mom had a thought that came through her head
a couple months ago saying, and this thoughts said that
I'm on my way back home to Earth, and she
typically remembers I thought that was in herneat. It wasn't
a boy, she said, with a thought, but it was there,
and it was distinct. Is this correlating with these symbols
or what?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
So there must be some kind of relevance to you know,
why your father was writing these symbols down.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, for sure. And you know the top symbols are
triangle with three lines underneath it, and right now there's
so many instances with flying triangles, it's unreal. Could this
be prophecy? But the thing that resonated me the most
when I first started researching this was communication or transmission.
I was kind of consumed by this for a while

(53:31):
as far as what these could mean, and then I
kind of gave up on it, and I started listening
to your podcasts and anytime anything with symbols come on
the TV, and me and my mom go, oh, you
know it's not a match. Why would ever know what
it means? But it sure with me. I forget clothes.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, of course, it always good to know, isn't it.
This has any reason behind it, because you've had experiences
on off for your whole life. You've met some strange
individuals which seem to just come out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah right, And these people look perfect or these being
and whatever you want to call them. You know, I
don't know if they're shape shifters or not, because that
Paulinea girl even told me, well, my voice is the
same you recommends my voice. So I'm just so blown away.
But she told me that that I never called it,
but I tried to call it actually last year. A

(54:19):
fax machine sounds it's really really weird. But her figure
was perfect, no blemishes on it at all. And she
looked totally different from her being a hitchhiker that my
friend picked up. Totally different because she was overweight, and
you know, she was okay, but nothing like what she
looked like when I seen her at the gas station.

(54:41):
I mean, there was nothing wrong her. It looked like
a clone to me kind of because she was she
was just so perfect, really good looking. And the same
thing with these girls at the high school might open
the gate for me, and I might have some missing
time on the high school as well, because my mom
ended up having to pick up my daughter down at
the high school and I'm just sitting, you know, just

(55:02):
blown away about what just happened. I came back home
and they were mad at me. And I went down
there around seven point thirty and I felt like it
was only like I was talking about an hour, so
I knew I had to go pick up my daughter
at the high school football game, but apparently it was
like three or four hours, so I don't know. I
didn't remember being that long, so I'm not sure if

(55:23):
I had missed some time or not. And why they
were so happy to like, you know, open the gate
for me or whatever. It's like they knew that I
was going to have an experience that's like crying and
show me a sign something what's going on. And that's
when the like the stars opened up inside my hat.
I didn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And then the woman could we have been a guid
an angel when you had this accident.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, absolutely, because she was keeping up with me pretty good.
And I got in her car and there was dove
feathers in the passenger seat, and she had a dream
patcher hanging from her mirror. And instead of asking her
question to use the phone to call my parents, say hey, look,
this is what's going on. Like I said, I didn't

(56:06):
know if I was the live or dead. She dropped
me off, and I was following her when she dropped
me off at the store and she took off, and
I thought I would catch her somehow. You know, I
was so and I couldn't remember a lot of stuff
after that accident either, So I don't know if I
had a really bad concussion or not. Because when I
got out of jail, I could barely remember how to

(56:27):
use the ATM. I didn't recognize nobody for a while
until my Mary started coming back slowly, so you know
who was she? And it was everything was kind of
like a dull color. When she picked me up. It
wasn't like any vibrant colors. It was just like a
dull color. She gave me a rolle cigarette. Have a cigarette? Fine?

(56:47):
We've all got one who knows when you're gonna be
talk talking to them? You know, I think beings are
already here, and that they look a lot like it.
And you don't know who's going to be following you.
You know, it could be your guardian agent. So and
I tried to my thoughts right now we're being read,
and John how a thought. All of a sudden, someone
down another inmate would say that same thought or answer

(57:08):
the question that I had in my head. So it
was like my thoughts were being read. And to this
day too, I'll be standing in the line at the
grocery store, I have a talk in my head, and
all a sudden I'll get a notification on my phone
or a hornal home. You know, it's really bizarre, and
I just learned to deal with it. Now. It still happens,
but you know, you get used to it after a while.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
It can be beneficial, especially when people have these feelings
something goes wrong. But people do have these these intuitions,
these I premonitions.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Maybe yeah, that's what that's what's been happening too. I'll
see stuff or heard about stuff like right before they happen.
Sometimes it's five seconds ten seconds. Sometimes it's even you
know the next day when it'll come true. It's like
a manifest thing, you know, stuff pretty easily. Wish I
could manifest, you know, like now all the money.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
In the world, I'd be rich next week's Yeah right,
Why don't you tell me that this is not what's intended?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (58:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
What do happen till present day? You still having experiences?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, the ones the one with the Whitley streamer one
I had last month, and the same thing with that
alien walking down the hallway too. Those were both last month,
and those were right almost right next to each other,
there like two nights in a row. And the one
with the alien walking down the hallway, I wasn't even asleep,
and then I just like laid down and that happened,

(58:31):
and it startled me because he looked straight at me
and right into my eye. It was like whoa, And
then I woke up right away. Then the next night
that one of the same one with that Whitley streamer
had happened that next night. That was all last month,
So this is ongoing, you know. And yeah, I even
looked into remote viewing too, because I'm seeing so very vividly,

(58:53):
like when I meditate, all of a sudden things will
just open up. There's like a window they might call
it the veil, and all just start seeing things, especially
like I'm flying, and it's really cool. I know people
have out of body experiences. I don't know if this
is what's happening, because I don't see myself. I just
see like I'm looking through the eyes of like an
eagle or something, and I can just see country roads.

(59:15):
And that was when I was going through a green tunnel,
like it made a graph and stuff, and all of
a sudden, just a big window opened up and there
was Saturn. It was black and white, but it was
Saturn to have the rings unless there's another planet out
there that's got rings around it that you can distinctly
see the rings around the planet. And all of a sudden,
it's like a fly into the mountain, you know, fly

(59:37):
into Saturn and there's a bunch of mountains on it,
and it's all really vivid. I mean, I see things clearly.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Definitely keep us updated if you have any more recent occurrences.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah, well for sure, absolutely, And I want to thank
you Nick too forgive me. It's the opportunity. Hope it
came out right. I know it was really nervous, but
now thank you. I know it's a good thing that
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Thank you, Claire, you did just find and good on
you again and over your clean Now. I know it
probably took a lot of doing, and it's not the easiest.
It's not the easiest thing. And I've had a lot
of guests, you know, I've had troubles over the years.
Everyone has troubles, addictions, whatever, you know. People struggle to
get over things, you know. But and and your testament of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
That, and it's been definitely a long while journey. And yeah,
for sure, and my chest because I've been wanting to
tell his story for a long time. I just didn't
know how. But thank you so much for giving the
opportunity to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You're more than welcome, Clay. I really appreciate you coming
on sharing that for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, it's really nice to meet. If you take care, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You too, keep in contact and I will talk to
you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Well, thanks, thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
That's all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with
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or you can reach out to me via the contact
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(01:01:02):
big thank you to Julian and Clay for sharing tonight,
and thank you all for listening. I will be back
next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching US skies.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Goodbye,
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