Ep.389 The Highfalcon Road Encounter

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
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feet above us.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
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one one.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is swear to God more calm on an unidentified object
every liberty four call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show,
you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Hello everyone, good to have you here. I'm Nick Hunter
and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast where people share
what they've experienced. Tonight's guest is Ken Millanix, a UFO
researcher and experiencer, and he joins us from the state
of Massachusetts to share two remarkable UFO encounters spanning more

(02:09):
than twenty five years, from free amber orbs silently gliding
just above the rooftops in nineteen ninety eight to mysterious
dark spheres witnessed alongside his wife in twenty twenty four.
Ken recounts experiences that continue to shape his interest in
the UFO subject. We also explore his work creating a
UFO Index, an independent database dedicated to cataloging UFO and

(02:34):
UAP reports from around the world. Ken is up next,
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(02:57):
Now on with the show. Hello, Ken, welcome.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
To the podcast. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
You are welcome. It is great to have you join
us tonight. And you're cooled in from Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Great okay, Now, Ken, you have a couple of experiences
that you can be sharing for us. Would you like
to start at the beginning please, sir?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (03:34):
So I had my I've had two very close encounters,
and the first one I was nineteen years old and
I had not given UFOs really any thought at all.
I grew up in Terroustown, Maryland. I would spend the
summers in Huntington Beach, California, and I wanted to be

(03:58):
I wanted to get into a strong me. As a child,
I was always fascinated by the stars, but I never
gave a UFOs really a second thought. I used to
go to California and play my Microsoft flight simulator as
a kid with my grandfather, and yeah, I know all
the planes, and I you know, I went to space
camp when I was twelve, and you know, kids want

(04:19):
to be astronauts, and I certainly did. I always loved
space in astronomy, but I never went down the UFO
rabbit hole until I was nineteen, and this was a
random day in the spring of nineteen ninety eight. And
basically what happened. I was driving on Racious Town Road.
We lived in Sagramore Forest, kind of a wooded community,

(04:43):
and I was driving down Rightious Town Road and I
made a right onto high Falcon Road. Anybody wants to
google that, they can see that intersection of Rightious Town
Road and high Falcon Road. And I was driving my
mother's It was a ninety four Jeep Grancherokee, and I
was driving it is ten thirty roughly ten thirty or
eleven at night. I was trying to I still had

(05:04):
a curfew, still living at home and had a curfew,
and I was trying to get back for curfew. And
when I made that right, I saw something through the
windshield up above, so.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I made the right.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Directly in front of me on high Falcon Road was
a car dealership and I watched three amber balls of
light descend down over that car dealership start to kind
of fly around each other, and they traveled I want
to say, about three to four miles an hour over

(05:36):
the car dealership, like right above, Like if I was
standing on top of the dealership, I could have grabbed
one of them. And they were just balls of light,
maybe a little bigger than basketball's And there were row homes,
a set of three blocks of row homes on the
left of High Falcon I made the turn.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I keep watching them, and.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
They descended over those row homes, and they were kind
of moving around each other while at the same time
translating down the street at about three miles an hour.
And sometimes I like to say that it was almost
like they were caught in an invisible river that's traveling
three miles an hour, because they moved around each other,
but they always kept the same pace, moving down the

(06:17):
street at about three miles an hour. So I pulled
over immediately and got out, and I'm just watching these
three orbs, and I was completely shocked. And at the time,
on the right side of the street, there was a
man getting groceries out of his trunk, and to this day,
I wish that I called out to him, because I
would have had another witness, But I didn't call out

(06:40):
to him, and I just stood there in amazement at
watching this display, and I just couldn't believe what.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was seeing.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
So they kept moving over the row homes and they
I had the feeling that they were searching for something,
as strange as that sounds, but just the way they
were moving around each other and kind of moving slowly.
They eventually got they started to get far away, and
by far, I mean like a couple hundred feet away
from me. At the closest, I think I was within
fifty feet of these orbs.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
The entire time, they.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Did not make any motion that would lead me to
believe that they knew I was there, or if they
knew I was there, they didn't care that I was there.
I eventually I get back in the jeep and I
start to follow them because I don't want to lose
sight of them. And then on High Falcon Road, there
is a there's a cutout for power lines on the
right hand side, and in ninety eight, I don't think

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there were power lines there, but there's power lines now.
But they turned and crossed the street. They dipped really low,
and they crossed the street at like three or four
feet off the ground. So they crossed and they get
into this field and I immediately come up the street
and both of my windows were down, and through my
passenger's side window, I'm stopped there at the edge of

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the field, and I'm watching them meander through the field
very slowly, just very gracefully. They go through this field,
and you know, after about I want to say, fifty
to seventy yards, they turned upwards and they started flying
up towards the moon. It was a full moon that night,
and I've always had that image of three orbs. I

(08:16):
actually have it on my website. I did an AI
recreation three orbs, you know, in a wooded field flying
up towards the moon, because that image has forever been
just burned into my consciousness. So I went home my
uncle at the time, he was a truck driver and
he was staying with us for a couple of weeks,
and I excitedly ran into him and I said, you know,

(08:37):
you never believe what I just saw. There were these
three lights and they were kind of moving around each other.
And he basically finished my sentence he said, did they
look like they were playing tag with each other?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I've seen that, and I was shocked, and like, you
saw that.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
You've never said anything about this, But from that day on,
I've known that we are not alone in this universe.
I know that those were alien and I know, we
didn't have technology like this. I mean, they're just balls
brightly like an amber, reddish color, like a red orange color.
They had a slight quality of a swirling I could

(09:12):
almost make out like some kind of swirling inside the
light to this day, you know, right after that happened,
I talked to my father and he said that he
had had similar sightings in the same area. He was actually,
if you trace back the path of these orbs, and
if I hypothetically say, okay, what were they doing before
they were on High Falcon If you go to Google

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Maps and you make a straight line, it intersects soldiers
the light, which is what they call a serpentine barren.
So it's a nature preserve with extremely high levels of
magnesium in the soil, and it causes pine trees to
have stunted growth, and you have kind of rare insects
and rare plant life that can plant life that can

(09:56):
only survive in that environment. So it's kind of a
unique feature. And it's strange that my family has had
so many encounter or not encounters, but just sightings, close
encounters with orbs. So apparently my father in the seventies
had had these same three orbs that I described fly

(10:17):
over him while he was night fishing off of I
believe it was Nicodemus Bridge Liberty Reservoir. So that area
has Liberty Reservoir and then Soldier's Delight and there seems
to be a lot of sightings in that area. But
I kind of I didn't know what to do with
my sighting. I didn't know anything. I didn't know where
to report it. I did not make a police report.

(10:38):
I was only nineteen. Looking back, I should have at
least wrote it down in a journal, so I could
have documented the day, you know, the time in the day.
But I kind of just went on with my life.
I went to college, ended up moving to Hawaii in
two thousand and I stayed in Hawaii from two thousand
until two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I finished college.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
My mother had a real estate company out there, so
I started selling real estate and Whai. After I graduated,
I always wanted to get back into science. I ended
up moving back to Maryland and met my wife, and
around twenty eleven I got back in to medical research.
So I was doing spine research at Thwson Medical Center

(11:19):
in Towson, Maryland, and did that for a while, and eventually,
when COVID happened, I ended up getting laid off and
I with so much free time. It was weird because
the sightings like this, you know, I can keep living
my life and not think about it, and if something
sometimes pulls me back to it and I kind of say, wow,

(11:41):
this is the most amazing thing that's ever happened to me.
I think at the time, I'm young, and I just
think the rest of my life is going to be
filled with amazing things. But in retrospect, looking back to it,
I always think, you know, this is one of the
most amazing things that's happened to me. So when I
was laid off because of COVID, I had a lot
of free time and I thought, you know, I should

(12:01):
build a website.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Maybe I can find others.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
There has to be people out there that have also
had these experiences. I'd like to communicate to them and
talk with them, because they kind of know where I'm
coming from, and they're not starting from the standpoint of,
oh my, that's totally ridiculous, because you know, I'm you know,
I wasn't hallucinating, and you know, all these different things
that people that people could kind of push your experience

(12:27):
off and kind of put in a bucket, say, oh,
it must have been a hallucination. I know that's not
the case. So I know this is something we have
to deal with as a species, that something is coming here.
So as a starting point, I wanted to find others
that might have had these same experiences, because that puts
us farther down the race, you know, of Okay, we

(12:47):
know they're here, Let's let's actually figure out what they're
doing here, what their intentions are? Should we even try
to document and get video without knowing what their intentions are?
Has this been going on for thousands of years? You know,
you can go down the rabbit hole. Once you know
something's coming here, there's a million different theories as to
what it is, why it's happening. So I started the site,

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and I started getting a lot of great reports and
made a lot of great connections from the website, and
I try to make the site easy and user friendly,
and also it's kind of a grassroots, kind of a
ground up organization where you know, if people have ideas,
I would love to you know, we can look at
different metrics and analyze the data different ways, or I
can build it in different functionality to the website. But

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the craziest part about all of this is I never
thought I would have another sighting. I never thought I'd
have another siting so close, just because of statistics and
how rare this seems to be, but I actually did.
It was December sixth, twenty twenty four. My wife and
I were we were changing apartment complexes and we moved

(13:51):
to a new apartment complex that was sort of out
in the woods. And this was kind of right around
the same time as the New Jersey Drone it is,
and it was occurring. We moved to this new apartment
complex and we had like a one week overlap, so
we had one week to get out of our old
apartment into the new apartment. I think our lease was
actually up. I think Friday, December sixth was.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
The end date.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
So for a few days we're moving items into our
new apartment. So I would work all day at my
job in Massachusetts, and then I'd get off work and
we'd start moving. And my wife and I it was
dark when we were moving, and we kept seeing lights
fly around the complex. So the in the wooded areas,
the complex kind of backs up to a wooded marsh

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Marshy area, and we would see these pure white lights
kind of fly around the perimeter, and I kept looking
up and I kept asking my wife what is that?
And we would stare at it for a minute, not
really thinking too much of it. I didn't know if
it was a plane or a drone or just the light.
At this point, we saw them for probably three days

(14:55):
every night, you know, we just would randomly see it
once or twice. And to give you a sense of scale,
it was if you're standing in the middle of a
football stadium. These lights would be flying up in the
stands kind of around, kind of almost doing that same
kind of oval shape of a football stadium. So that's
a pretty good scale for where these lights were in

(15:15):
relation to us. So on the morning of December sixth,
it was a Friday morning, I'm leaving for work. It's
five point thirty in the morning. I walk out to
the parking lot and two of those lights that I
had seen the previous nights, two of those lights are
flying right over the trees in front of me, So
they're coming towards me, right over the trees, like low enough,

(15:37):
almost skimming the trees. And my first thought was, Wow,
this is amazing. I'm going to see what these lights are.
And they got over the parking lot and they turned
the lights off, and the instant they turned the lights off,
I could see two much larger dark balls where the
lights had been, and they haphazardly floated up and sit.

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They also had like a slight reddish like a reddish
static charge kind of around them. And it happened so quick.
They were out of sight within two or three seconds.
And I just stood there in amazement and thinking, oh
my god, this has happened to me again. Oh my god,
I don't have a camera again. And I was just

(16:23):
utterly shocked. So some of this because of the specifics,
I really think the government or someone out there knows
specifically what I saw, And the fact that it happened
during the New Jersey drone incident leads me to believe
was the New Jersey drone incident not really drones?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Were they these orbs?

Speaker 6 (16:42):
And maybe the government was coming to either muddy the
waters or using their own drones to try to intercept
or see what these orbs were. I just find the
timing incredibly coincidental. But the things that I can say
from that sighting. Specifically, they were pure white light. When
they turned off, they seem much larger than the white

(17:03):
lights themselves. They were just these dark orbs. I couldn't
tell if they were metallic, they were so dark. So
it was five point thirty in the morning in December,
so it was still dark in the sky, but they
were darker than the sky. That's why I could see them.
And I could watch them haphazardly float up. So that
was another strange thing because they they didn't float upward.

(17:23):
It's not like they left on their own volition. They
didn't fly straight upward. They it's almost like the gravity,
their gravity was turned off and they floated upward, kind
of the way a bubble floats up through water. It
doesn't take a straight path. It kind of haphazardly floats upward,
if that makes sense. And I could see the slight
red haze around them.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
So for me, you know, I'm.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Kind I'm kind of worried about giving details like that
because someone out there knows what I saw and they
know that exact description of whatever that is. But again,
like my sighting in ninety eight, completely silent, these were
larger balls. So I would say these were almost almost
car size. I mean, they probably had a three or

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four foot diameter, whereas in ninety eight they were small
like basketballs. But it led me to other questions because
if it looked like they saw me, I mean, if
I had to theorize, it's like, oh, here's a human,
we need to get out of here. And they shut
the lights off and left. One thing that's a little
disconcerning is they only had they only had to float

(18:28):
away maybe fifteen to twenty feet before I couldn't see
them anymore. So if these things are flying around with
the lights off, you'll never see them. So that was
a little disconcerting. And the one of the questions I
have is if they didn't want to see me, why
are they flying with the lights on. That doesn't make
any sense to me. You would think they could turn

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these lights off and just fly in stealth mode if
they're not wanting to be seen.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
So kind of strange there.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
I don't know if the light is some part of
the propulsion system, and if they do turn the lights off,
then all they can do is float.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Upwards and out of sight.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Maybe they lose their ability for forward travel, but that's
just speculation. But Luckily this time I was able to
document the time and the date and report it on
my own UFO website, so that made me feel good.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
So yeah, that's that's pretty much my two sightings.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Thank you for sharing that care. Wow, interesting with your
nineteen ninety eight experience. Did you notice any sound whatsoever
coming from these orbs?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
It was completely silent, and the night was so silent,
and you know that guy that was standing there getting
groceries out of his trunk. I wanted to call out
to him, but you could hear a pin drop, and
I didn't want to attract these things. I didn't know
what it was, so I myself was trying to stay
as silent as the night was currently silent, if that
makes sense.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Did you recall hearing any sounds of wildlife or was
it just you your own breathing.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Yeah, I did not hear any wildlife, but I could
still hear traffic kind of from Rsioustown Road, so I
knew I could definitely still hear sounds. I didn't hear
any wildlife there, but it's kind of a it's like
a little residential area, so it wasn't like I was
in the middle of the woods. But it was very
eerie for these to be moving around completely silent.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
What stands out most about your initial encounter with these.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
I think the fact that they looked like they were
searching for something, because I, you know, ever since it happened,
I wanted to know what were they doing, Why were
they here? Why were they in the middle of a
residential area. They paid me no attention, but they just
crossed a major intersection at Reisious Town Road in high Falcon,

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So it's not like they didn't know people are here.
So I don't know what their intention was, or if
they were looking for something, what they could possibly if
they wanted to take a human, God forbid, I was
standing right there, so not really good at searching if
that was there, if that was their intent, So I
just don't know. My wife seems to think that they survey.

(21:02):
They come and they survey the land.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Maybe you're saying about Soldiers Delight the nature reserve. You
said there was a lot of unusual species there and
a lot of things you probably don't find in other areas,
so you know, so possibly if they were searching for something,
it was some kind of scientific test.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Maybe it's certainly possible Yeah, that area is it's called
a Serpentine barren, kind of a unique unique land feature.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And have you have you.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Ever got any reports on UFO index from this particular area.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
So I've gotten them from Maryland. There seemed to be
a large number of reports from Maryland, but not specifically
Soldier's Delight, but anecdotally from friends and relatives. I've gotten,
you know, people that don't want to report their sighting
and they don't want to be kind of known for
this have have come to me and said, this has

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happened to me multiple times.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
I wonder if you've tempted to dig up any that
history with the area, maybe old reports, maybe decades ago.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
There was there was a famous sighting in Tows in Maryland.
I mean there's that got pretty famous. Two people they
had crossed Lock Raven Reservoir and they were on lock
Raven Reservoir bridge. These things they seem to be you know,
there seems to be a high number of reports around
water bodies, but this Lock Raven Reservoir UFO sighting, a

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craft actually descended down and prevented their travel on the bridge,
and they got out and watched this craft kind of
hover above the bridge before taking off.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
But also to anyone listening to this and if you
live in that area and you've maybe send something very
similar to what Ken has in this area, Yeah, do
get in touch. Of course, we're going to have Ken's
link in a description and on the website, so report
report it to Ken. These objects from ninety eight, did
they appear solid or were they more like a glowing energy?

Speaker 6 (23:02):
So they were solid, so they didn't I could perfectly
tell their you know, they had they had a shape
to them, and they were they were spheres and they
were just glowing this amber red color. So it's I
don't know if they were metallic, and there was a
field around them that was glowing, but they definitely had
a substance to them.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know, they were perfectly spherical.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
But very different in size and shape from your sit
in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
They were large, They were much larger, and it was
it was odd because I would have suspected they were
tennis ball size based on the size of the lights
that were flying around. They almost looked like stars. If
I didn't if I didn't know how close they were,
and when they flew over the trees, they appeared to
be tennis ball size, and then when the light turned off,

(23:52):
they instantly were about the size of cars, you know,
like three or four feet balls. And then my mind
didn't didn't really grasp I didn't understand if maybe I
was looking at a small light that was on the
outside of the craft or maybe this light. The weird
thing too, was they were in the same position as

(24:13):
the lights. So what I mean by that it almost
could have. The only way I can wrap my mind
around it is if that light was in the center
of the object, like dead center, and the outside was translucent.
So I'm seeing, I'm seeing a light, and I can't
see the translucent part of the craft at all, And
then when the light turns off, now because it's so

(24:35):
much darker, I see the outside translucent part. If that
makes any sense, because you know, if it was a
light that was just on the bottom of the craft,
or you know, it's a round sphere, but like if
there was a light on some portion of that sphere,
when that light turned off, to me, it would look
like the craft moved by a distance of the radius

(24:59):
of that sphere. That makes any sense, because if the
light's on the side of the sphere or the bottom
of the sphere when it turns off. That's now the
craft is moved a distance visually, because now I'm looking
at a much whatever the radius of the sphere is,
we're able to appear to.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Move that distance.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
This didn't do that at all, which leads me to
believe it could have been a light in the middle
of the craft and the rest of the craft was
sort of translucent.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
If that makes any sense.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, it does. That's pretty interesting. Have you picked up
any reports that I've been similar to that?

Speaker 6 (25:32):
So I have not, really, I've picked up a lot
of ORB reports that have witnessed orbs.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I've not seen any.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Reports where the reporter was that close to make those
type of detailed observations.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Definitely been an influx of ORB experiences putting over the
last couple of years at least, But it's something which
seems to have always been around, right, well.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
When that's that's exactly right, and when I when I
first started researching this in the early two thousands trying
to figure out what my sighting was, one of the
first things I stumbled upon are the Foo fighters from
World War Two. You know that their description of these
these amber balls of light fit what I saw perfectly.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, they just always seemed to be in back history,
the Foo Fighters, You've got the Matha lights, right, you
got the Willow, the whiffs up in Scotland. It's lights
and stuff. So yeah, something which isn't just a new thing,
but more people seem to be experiencing them now. Ken,
When you first witnessed this in ninety eight, did you
reach the conclusion that it is possibly not something of

(26:41):
a right away? Was that something which gradually happened?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
No, I think right away.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
I think within the first five seconds of it happening,
I knew this was something else when my thought process
when it was so when I first I made a
right on the high Falcon when I first saw them,
I saw.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Red light and I looked at it like, is that
a tower?

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Because you know the red light from towers kind of
how that looks, and I then that was my first thought,
is that a tower? And then I see two more
of them, and then I see that they're dropping right
above the car dealership. So then my next thought was
pull over and watch what this is. And when they
started to kind of fly around each other and move

(27:26):
down these row homes like right above the roof, and
I realized there's no sound, Like I'm extremely close and
there's no sound at all. They moved with such just
gracefulness that I knew this was alien. I knew this
wasn't from our planet.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
And in these days of all a lot of interest
in UFOs now UFO UAPs, and it's it's bringing so
many more people forward. It didn't really want to share
what they'd experience or had any real interest, but now
obviously did the government's heavily involved, and we got all
these whistleblowers and all this new information files of people
coming out. There is such an interest now it's just

(28:04):
absolutely booming it.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It really is.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I think I think we're on the precipice of I
hate to speculate, but I just I feel like we're
on the precipice of major disclosure.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Just more and more of these.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Happening, and you know, I think they're happening to an extent.
The government just can't keep it under wraps any longer.
And you have whistleblowers coming out, and there's been such
a such a push from people, you know, in the media,
all of these whistleblowers. There's been just I think it's
coming to a head. I think the government can't can

(28:38):
no longer contain it. Even this, uh, the New Jersey
drone incident in twenty twenty four, I had watched a
podcast from from like an ET six in the military
who said, no, I was flying these drones and it's
a cover story. It's a cover story because there's ORBS
coming to coming to New Jersey and the government doesn't

(29:00):
know what to do about it, and I've not been
able to Maybe someone else can find that video, but
I've not been able to find that video since. So
I kind of I feel like, if whatever these are,
if we start having more and more encounters, and more
and more people have these close encounters and realize we're
not in the alone in the universe, the government can

(29:21):
keep secret whatever they want to keep secret, but you know,
there's going to be so many of us that know
we're not alone in the universe that the government's either
going to have to disclose because now they're just they're
starting to look, you know, very deceitful, when when they're
still trying to hide what the public actually knows.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I think that for as long as possible, just trying
to give us little bits of crumbs, you know what
they think they can satisfy us with. But at the
end of the day, you're not going to satisfy everyone.
Think they're you know, they're definitely holding back on the
good stuff. It's a very difficult thing because they're showing
these videos and obviously people won't close ups. People want
to see detail. They want to No, it's it's alien,

(30:01):
you know, they want to they want to know this.
The problem is if they get too good, people just
turn around and say, oh no, that's fake. So, you know,
it's it's difficult one exactly.

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Speaker 1 (31:01):
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Speaker 5 (31:10):
I definitely think it will hit a kind of list
and it will break and they will be forced to
release everything. But you know, at the end of the day,
is the government.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
So yeah, it's true and they they have you know,
we have so much. We have so many credible witnesses,
and you know, anyone can be a credible witness as well.
I need to bring up that point is that I
really I hate when they say, well, you know this,
it was a military pilot who saw this, as if
anyone else can't be credible. I mean, you know, you're

(31:40):
your everyday citizen walking down the street that has a
close encounter.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
That, to me, that's credible.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
I mean unless we find something in his past that
says always schizophrenic or something like that. I think we
need to give people the benefit of the doubt of
they really can be credible witnesses. They don't have to
be in law enforcement, they don't have to be military pilots.
But those are the those are harder to disprove and
harder to kind of push away and say no, I
don't believe that. When you have a military pilot who

(32:06):
sees something like David Fraver. You know that with the
tik Tac incident, all of these different encounters the government has,
you know, they have four K video, but they give
us the fleer and they give us the fleer data
the infrared because you can't really tell what it is,
you know, is it this? Is it that we don't
really know, So it's going to be a put it's
going to just be a it's an uphill battle to

(32:27):
get the really good quality footage from the government. Luckily,
that's one of the things I like about UFO index
is it's not government run. If someone has a close encounter,
we can get the video, we can get the images,
and hopefully not let it fall into the government's hands.
I know there's been a lot of speculation over the
years and anecdotal evidence that if you get that.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Amazing video or amazing.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Photos, people show up at your house and they confiscate
it and they threaten you and that's the last we
hear of it. Hopefully that that doesn't happen. Doesn't happen
to me with UFO index, where they come and say, ken,
you're getting a little too close to the truth.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
We have to we have to shut you down, not yet.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Can. The good thing about UFO index dot com it
is it's great website and it's anonymous, so if you
want to come forward with your encounter, so it's best
to get the information and get these experiences out there
as opposed to keeping them to yourselves.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Right. Documentation is the key.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
And I also I recently built a function into the
website where I'm kind of crowdsourcing it a little bit
to get some help with with making some of these connections.
So if you if you happen to be browsing the
site and say, oh, this is just like the report
that I just uploaded, you can make that connection on
the site and it'll actually connect those two encounters and say, hey,

(33:47):
these two might be related to each other.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
That is certainly something we find on this show. We
have these little connections and just sometimes it just be
a small detail and experience. And what year did you
start sorry, you start in.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
It was twenty nineteen, so it was during the height
of COVID.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, that was a time when a lot of people
created and developed stuff and kind of went their own
way and sometimes their own new careers began that way.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yeah, that was definitely right. I mean it was for
all the downsides of COVID obviously were there were some
good things that came out of it and kind of
woke people up and they said, wait, you know, I
started doing something else and I kind of liked doing
that other thing, or I didn't realize I was on
this treadmill of just living life and I never got
that chance to just stop and reflect. So yeah, there's

(34:37):
always a little a little bit of good and every
every tragedy, and I think for me that was one
of them. With COVID, it's getting this site out and
letting people report their UFO sightings.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, it's great. This goes to our listeners as well.
Always if you've had an experience, report it. And with
UFO intex it's the perfect place. It's just down below
in the description. And what I'll probably do is I'll
keep it now in all my descriptions. So say someone
having to who aware, can I report this? Just report
it to Ken.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh that would be amazing.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, you did a great job on night.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
And what about your wife? How does your wife feel
about all this? Does she ever have an interest in this?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
So she has an interest. She doesn't have the kind
of interest that I do. So my wife, we've been
together for fifteen years now, and you know, I love
her to death for the fact that she knows I'm
an honest person. So it's like I would never make
up something, you know, and so she has had to

(35:39):
rectify that.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, I know you saw what you saw.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
And luckily she saw this last sighting that I had
in December twenty twenty four. She didn't have the close
encounter that I had, but she did see the lights,
so we can connect those dots. But she, yeah, she
supports me with it. She's kind of jokingly doesn't want
the government to show up at our house.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So sometimes she's.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Like, can hold back a little bit, hold back on
what you say. But you know, that's mostly she's joking
about that. But unfortunately it as you know, we recently
just had, you know, all of these these scientists go missing,
and you know, it's hard to say which ones are connected,
but I think they were up to fifteen or sixteen
possible possible connections. And although I'm a scientist, I'm a

(36:23):
medical researcher. Luckily I'm not doing anti gravity propulsion or anything.
That the government might might connect me with I mean,
I am I'm kind of worried about It's weird, you know,
I'm kind of rebellious in the fact where it's like,
if I know I saw something, I'll keep saying that
I saw it.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I don't, so hopefully that's okay.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
But I know these, I do know that these exist,
so it does worry me, you know, especially my last
sighting in December. You know, I gave I give such
detailed information about that sighting, and it was during the
New Jersey drone incident, which if it is true that
those are actually orbs and the government trying to find them,
they probably definitely don't want that out.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Man.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
They might not even know that they were coming to Boilston,
Massachusetts and not just New Jersey.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Yeah, the thing is so many people having these experiences now,
they definitely can't keep a lid on anymore. I think
those days those are gone right, definitely.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
But I'm you know, I really I'm curious about the technology.
For me, it's mostly the medical technology. You know, there's
so many if you look in abduction reports like Travis
Walton or you've got the Berkshire incident in Massachusetts. It's
people being being healed medically of their ailments. And then

(37:39):
you know, in my mind, it's like if if something
is so advanced, they can traverse the universe, the galaxy
and they can get here. Everyone is so concerned or
they want to understand the and reverse engineer the propulsion system.
But me being a medical researcher, I'm fascinated by this
type of technology for medical applications. And I feel, you know,

(38:03):
the government actually holding all this technology and keeping this
secret so they can reverse engineer it, and they cannot
let it fall into the hands of you know, adversaries.
It's only the craft that we have, and if we
if the government came out and said, yes, we do
have these, we're trying to reverse engineer them. They're only
worried about military applications and propulsion systems. But I feel

(38:25):
like if they do make their presence known and they
can give us technology, you know, this would end cancer,
This would end any disease.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
You know, we're.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Still comparatively, we're likely still living in the dark ages
where you know, they they have the real technology, and
it's just sad that the government has compartmentalized.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
All of this of course, obviously, if they're looking at
it from from a military standpoint, you know, it's how
we can use this to furvor us, you know, how
can we use this in war? And you're looking at
the benefit of medical research. Got this technology is I'm
sure we can solve and cure so many of our
our medical problems exactly.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
I'm not sure that we can reverse engineer any of it,
but they could certainly help us. You know, I know
a lot of times there's the analogy that when we're
trying to reverse engineer these things, it's like if you
sent a cell phone back into the nineteen fifties, they
wouldn't not only they might be able to turn it
on and kind of get it to work and understand

(39:28):
how it works, but they don't have the manufacturing processes
build up to build the screen and to build the
microchips and to build every component of that. So technology
kind of advances as a whole. So when we get
one of these crafts, we might understand it, we might
be able to fly it, but we don't have the metallurgy,
and we don't have the manufacturing process the processes that

(39:50):
could have taken millions of years to develop or they
could be beyond our capability altogether. You know a lot
of times they'll say, well, you know, this alien race
coming here could be a thous years more advanced than us.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
They could be a million years more advanced than us.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
But I tend to look at it as we're not
the most intelligent species on this planet. We have these
you know, whatever's coming here could be ten, fifteen, twenty
times more intelligent than us. So it's not just length
of time that we need to be allowed to develop
these technologies. They could be operating on a level that's
simply beyond our comprehension. If you take a chimpanzee and

(40:25):
put them in a room with a typewriter, it doesn't
matter how long you let him sit there, he's not
going to write Shakespeare. So we kind of have to
realize we might in relation to these different beings, we
could be at a major intellectual deficit. So, you know,
they could help us. I don't know that we could
ever understand the technology.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
No, No, I agree with you that it's a bit
like trying to explain strength furry to my dog. Yes, exactly,
And that's nothing against dogs.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
Yeah, you know, speaking of a string theory, I really
like michi Okaku. He's he's kind of come around to
the whole premise that that aliens, you know, could possibly
be here, and I'd really like to see that because
they jump to a different topic. But but physicists up today,
you know, they can seem overly closed minded and uh,
you know, they get they get stuck analyzing these uh

(41:19):
these you know, they're their mathematics and their their laws
or what they're calling physical laws of nature, and uh,
in reality, it's like, well, you have to open kind
of expand your mind, do the research, look into this.
Things are coming here. We we can't, you know, we
can't just ignore it and say, no, this isn't physically possible. No,

(41:42):
that they you know, they would have to travel faster
than the speed of light to get here, and it's
not physically possible. We first have to accept no, they're here.
Now we have to figure out the math that could
potentially make that possible, because it's definitely possible because they're here.
But Michio Kaku is great, and there's some other ones,
some other physics just that I like that are doing

(42:02):
good work. Just to you know, they're kind of in
the public eye and they're They're saying, well, evidence is
kind of shifting, and this seems like not only a possibility,
but it seems to be, uh what we're dealing with.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, he's one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
He is.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
And they asked, Yeah, they are coming on board a
bit now. But that's science.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Science isn't just about what you've got in front of
you know, it's it's forever evolven, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It sure is.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
But I'm excited to see where where these next couple
of years go. As far as UFOs are concerned, I
think one way or the other, our civilization is going
to be unrecognizable. I really think within the next five
five to ten years, it's either going to be AI,
you know, AI hitting the singularity and our civilization becomes

(42:48):
unrecognizable from what it is today, or it's going to
be you know, confirmed alien contact with the transfer of
information and technology, and our civilization is going to be
unrecognizable from today.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
So it's exciting stuff to look forward to.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
It is exciting times, it is, for sure. And for
a lot of people which have been in the field
for so long, things got a little bit slow. You know,
you wouldn't really getting much. But these days just things
just seem to be accelerating. Things just seem to be
getting faster. As for things that are going to be
recognizable just a year ago, two years ago, AI couldn't
even get hands and teeth right now, look.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
At it right, you know, it's increasing incomplexity and what
it can do exponentially. And now you have AI software
that's writing itself, and so where is the limit? It's
a logarithmic expansion of capabilities. I just I have no idea.
I can't even fathom where it's going to be in
a few years.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, okay, Ken, Now what advice do you give to
anyone out there that has had an experience and they
have nowhere to report it all they're ensure.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
So if they'd like to report it, my best advice
would be to come to UFO index and report it
and also search reports and see if if there's been
other sightings of the same. You know, if anyone's reported
something similar. They can also contact me directly, so you can,
you can fill out the contact form on the website

(44:12):
and and let me know because I have I don't
listen on the website, but I have a vast repository
of UFO experiencers that are willing to talk to others
about their experiences. And for me, you know, the biggest
thing for me, both of my sightings, most particularly the

(44:34):
first one, caused anxiety throughout the years. And I really
if I can help other people, you know, if they
can connect with another UFO experiencer and say hey, I
know this is here, that can actually help a lot.
So it really depends, you know, if someone says, hey,
this is weird, I want to report this and they
don't have a deeper kind of angst, you know, a

(44:57):
problem just developing in their psyche from this sighting, I say,
that's fine, go on the website, report it. You know,
that's fine. But if they do start to have this
anxiety that no one's believing them, no one understands, you know,
they kind of just shrug it off and they don't
realize how much this has changed them as a person,
I would say, contact me on the website directly and

(45:18):
you know we can talk about it. And I definitely
know what that feels like, and I I do, I
do have resources that can help you. Kind of depending
what you want to do, you might want to you
might want to get so involved because you realize this
is the biggest thing that's happening. You know, this is
the biggest news there is, and you want to get
more involved. You know there's pathways for that, or you

(45:40):
might just you know, you might just want to get
this off your chest. But yeah, I really, uh, really
welcome anyone to contact me on the website.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
We can sort of go from there.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Great stuff, And obviously this has changed your life in
a big way.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It certainly has.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
I uh, you know, I know, I'm less believing of
just society and the sense that a lot of it's
hard to conceptualize this as a whole, but a lot
of society and academia and the military and everyone says, oh,
we have all the answers.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
And I feel like this.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
You know, throughout history, everyone always thinks they have all
of the answers. But from ninety nine, from ninety eight on,
I've known that we don't have all the answers. So
I've become very skeptical of basically everything in life, in
medicine and physics, I've been skeptical of, well, there could

(46:36):
be something else, you know, I'm not sure what I'm
being told is the truth because I was always told
that no aliens are science fiction, and knowing that that's
not the case, I just like, Okay, you know, I
don't think humans as a whole, you know, we try
very hard, but we just don't have everything figured out.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Yeah, that is true. And that's not just something which
happens with age either.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
And anyone out there which which claims to know it all,
they really don't. None of us do. We just all
have a little piece, a little piece of a puzzle,
big old puzzle exactly.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
It's life changing stuff. Yeah, it's cathartic to do this
sort of thing.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
It is.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
It's liberating for the guests and for the people listening
out there, which you know, whether they're longtime listeners or
they've you know, just stumbled upon the show. You know,
it helps them too, right, But Ken, I wish you
all the best with UFO index, and I hope more
people certainly come to you and report their sightings.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Yeah, thank you, Nick, and thanks for getting the word
out there about UFO index. And it's been great to
meet you and chat with you this morning, and it's
been wonderful. Well, thanks again, Nick, You're more.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Welcome, Ken, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing
this interesting accounting with us.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, thank you, Nick, I'm glad I could share.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
It's wonderful to meet you, Kenn. Okay, keep in contact
and we will speak soon.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Sir, all right, talk to you soon. Thanks to care
bye for now.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Well that is all for this episode. Keep updated and
connected with the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And
if you have an encounter that you'd like to share
on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles
at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to
me via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles

(48:18):
podcast dot com. A big thing to Ken for sharing tonight,
and thank you all for listening. I will be back
next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,

(49:14):
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