Ep.390 The Cancún Incident

Shawn joins me from Nevada to share an extraordinary account that began with a mysterious disappearance during a trip to Cancún, Mexico in 2012. This would lead him down a path of missing time, alleged implants, strange physical effects, electronic anomalies, and a years-long search for answers.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
It?

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least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
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unidentified flying object.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
Hello everyone, glad you could join me tonight. I'm Nick
Hunter and you're listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's
guest is Sean, and he joins me from the state
of Nevada to share an extraordinary account that began with
a mysterious disappearance during a trip to Cancun, Mexico in
twenty twelve, missing time, alleged implants, strange physical effects, electronic anomalies,

(02:12):
and a year's long search for answers. Sean is up next,
but first, if you enjoy the show and you would
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(02:35):
Now on with the show. Hello, Sean, Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Hi, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Sean. It is a pleasure to have you with us tonight,
and you'll come into us from the state of Nevada.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's correct, Yes, the UFO one of the big UFO
hubs for experiencers and reporters and investigators.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
It certainly is okay. Now, Sean, you have some experiences
you're going to be sharing with us. Would you like
to start at the beginning, please, sir?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Sure. It started as kind of an interesting story from Mexico.
I went on a trip. As a Canadian, we like
to escape to Mexico to escape the long, monotonous winters
and freezing cold. So I went to Mexico for I
think it was ten days with my friends and we
went on an amazing trip right on the beach, had

(03:45):
an all inclusive resort, and we were enjoying ourselves maximally.
We were having so much fun that our cheeks would
hurt from laughing all the time. And one of the days,
my friends decided that they wanted to go out to
a extra restaurant. They were looking to explore the local
kind of culture or food or whatever, and they decided

(04:08):
they were going to go to a bubgumpfish factory. And
I'm not a huge fan of fish, so I ate
at the resort before we left, knowing that I wasn't
going to enjoy myself at the restaurant. And we were
at the restaurant laughing and having fun, and when the
food came, I excused myself from the table. I was like,
I'm just going to run outside and grab a little

(04:29):
fresh air. So I go outside and I have a
few minutes to kill. I have a look around outside
the restaurant, and across the street I can see these
red and blue lights flashing, and I thought, that's curious.
Maybe I'll go over there and go check it out.
After that, I don't remember taking a step. I don't

(04:49):
remember going towards the lights, but I just disappeared, like
the whole world went black, like the place before birth.
The next memory I have, I am trying to pull
money using my room key out of a bank machine
I didn't have. I didn't notice at the time, but
I didn't have my wallet. I had left it with

(05:10):
my girl at the restaurant. So I'm trying to take
money out of this bank machine, and then the world
closes black around me again. The next memory I have,
I am walking down the street. It's dark outside. It's
freezing cold because I'm in board shorts and a tank top,
and I'm walking down the street. I can't talk, I
can't do anything. I look in my pockets. I've got

(05:31):
my phone in my room key, and that's all I have.
My phone is dead, so there's nothing I can do
with that, so I shove it back in my pocket
and I'm walking down the street and I come across
this hotel and I'm like, oh, thank goodness, civilization, someone
can help me get out of this situation I found
myself in. I walk down the road and I walk

(05:51):
up to the concierge who comes out to meet me,
and I can't talk. My brain is working internally, I
can think, but my motor skills and my mouth are
not working. So I pulled a room key out of
my pocket and I hand it to him and he
laughs at me, thinks I've been drinking all night and partying.
And he points down the road and he says, long way, Senior,

(06:13):
long way. So I walked back to the hotel or
a bath. Finally watched the sun come up, so I went.
I disappeared at dinner time, and by the time I
got back to the hotel room, I think it was
about two or three miles. I've went and looked to
see where all of this took place, So not that long,
but maybe half an hour walk from where I found

(06:33):
myself walking down the street. I watched the sun come up,
go to sleep, wake up in the morning, and my
friends are livid. They're like, where did you go? We
looked around everywhere for you. We spent hours looking for you.
And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know where
I went. Didn't think much of it, went back to Canada,
finished our trip. Went back to Canada. We would go

(06:55):
out to parties and stuff, and my friends would make
fun of me. They would tease me for that time.
I lost a day and met and everybody thought it
was funny. Checked all my body parts, nothing was missing,
so I wasn't sure what had happened. Then something really
interesting started happening to me. About six months later. I
started hearing voices in my head and I thought, like psionics.

(07:18):
You hear of psionics And I thought, well, I didn't
put two and two together yet. I thought, Oh no,
I've gone off the deep end. I'm crazy. I've lost
my marbles. So I do what anyone would do. I
go to my doctor and I tell them what's going on,
and I go and get a psychiatrist. I start talking
to psychiatrists and over the course of my experience with

(07:42):
the psychiatrist. The psychiatrist writes me a letter to my
doctor saying that my case warrants investigation. Now, the reason
that he did this is because the voices weren't just
random voices. They were saying really interesting things. They were
saying things like taking the said of me, why would
you drive your dog to the dog park to go

(08:04):
for a walk. I can see in your fridge, I
can see there's meat in there. Why do we meet
commanding me to go on the computer and look at
the Canadian budget because they had just released the budget
that day, and all kinds of other things, how often
do you pay your employees? And really weird questions that
it already had the answer to, philosophical conversations about the

(08:26):
meaning of life, all kinds of really really interesting things.
But that's not all they started teaching me. They started
teaching me sociology, communications, philosophy, physics, chemistry, astronomy.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And so.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I started to put the pieces together with what was
happening to me. And so when I talked to the psychiatrist,
he was like, this is not a normal case. I
had suspected that I had been implanted, And he wrote
a letter to the door. So I went to the
MRI clinic. Go to the MRI clinic. They're doing a
scan of my head, and the voices that are making

(09:09):
fun of the scan while it's happening. There's nothing that
the scan is going to do. We're going to mess
with the scan. This isn't going to work. So I
go back to the doctor. Doctor says, oh, The MRI
clinic says, it's normal. I'm like, there's no way that
it's normal. So I go to the MRI clinic, I
get my file. I come home, plug it into my computer,

(09:30):
bring up the images, and on the images there's a
giant hole in my face. In the image a little circle,
And I look through all the images and the size
of the circle is changing through all the images. And
with an inert piece of metal, from what I understand,
I'm I'm not an image expert, but from the research

(09:52):
that I've done, when you have a nerd piece of metal,
it gives you a continuous deflection or refraction in the
image because the metal is creating a magnetic signal which
is then which is then getting deflective. But in my case,
the size of the scan or the size of the
hole is changing throughout the images, which deduces that the

(10:14):
device is creating a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field
throughout the scan. But I get the scan, I take
the pictures. I take them into my doctor and I'm like, hey, Doc,
what's this And he's like, that's weird. Let's get an
X ray. No problem. So go to the X ray place.
X ray comes back. They're like, oh, everything's fine. Like,
there's no way that it's fine. So I go in,

(10:36):
get the image, take it home, and sure enough, on
the X ray there's a little pyramidal thing that is
in my chin and it's one or two point one
seven millimeters in size. And so now I have this
device measured in my face. There's other evidence to show
that the device is not an inert piece of metal

(10:57):
and is actively interacted with my brain. I'm laying awake
at home, trying to sleep, and they're keeping me awake,
talking to me. We're having conversations, and I'm trying to
go to sleep. I got to work in the morning
and I bought one of those Mews headbands. It's an
EG It's just a little kind of relaxing medication tool,
but it gives you EEG data, which is measuring brain activity,

(11:20):
and so I check it home, and I put it
on in one of these episodes where they're keeping me awake,
and the amplitude of the EEG spikes outside the limits
of what the machine can measure. So I took the
imagine now that have done some research, and I plugged
it into one of the AI algorithms, and the AI
predicts that the EEG voltage was somewhere around three or

(11:43):
four thousand millibles. Now, the brain's maximum output while chewing
or doing something crazy is five hundred, so that's between
four and ten times the maximum of what a brain
can put out. So it's not mathematically possible unless I
had my finger in a light socket, which I did not.
It wasn't holding I mean, I was holding my phone

(12:03):
when I took the picture, but my phone wasn't plugged
into the wall. There was no place for it to
get that kind of a voltage. And I got this
repeatedly at nights. People witnessing that it happened. My girlfriend
laying beside me would feel the energy in the room change.
My dog would react in the corner. She would start

(12:24):
crying and yelping like dogs do when they're scared at
some of these times, and so I knew that something
really profound was happening to me, and throughout my journey,
I was able to start to reverse engineer what was
happening to me, and so I figured out that this
implant creates radio frequencies that interact with the brain to

(12:50):
create thought manifolds. And these thought manifolds are how the
device interacts with my brain to create a computer brain interface.
And so the voices that I'm hearing are manifolds of
speech or sound that would reflect in the brain as
though you were hearing them. But your ear isn't hearing

(13:12):
any voices, just your brain is activating in the quadrant
where it would hear. And so I was able to
figure out how the device works, how their technology works.
Of course, this entire time they're teaching me. They're teaching
me all of this stuff indirectly. As a function of
us going through this, I learned a lot of really
interesting aspects about who these people are, why they're here,

(13:37):
what their culture is like, and all kinds of answers
to questions that I think all humans not only have
a right to know, but is healthy and intelligent for
them to know. And I think that people have a
right and a lot of interest in this topic and
they should know the truth. We should know that everything's

(13:57):
going to be fine. There's no external threat. A lot
of the narratives that are being seated are more than
likely disinformation campaigns driven on both sides. And so I'm
thankful for the opportunity to tell my story and talk
about this openly.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Thank you for sharing their interest in did you take
us back to can Kun twenty twelve?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Can you do?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
You tell us what exactly you remember when you walk
out of the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I walked out of the restaurant and I saw flashing
lights and then boom, the world went black. Now, since then,
I've figured out what happened to me, because about two
or three years later, I got these little gray dots
ones on the side of my head and ones on
the back, And through my conversations with them, they have
a thing where they believe that a person should know

(14:47):
what's happening to them. So they revealed what happened to me,
and from an invisible position because they have got cloaking technology.
They shot me with two intersecting lasers, which amplify their
phase amplitude on the pond of my brain, and they
subdued me. But yeah, so I don't really have any
memories from that time. Some people have suggested that I

(15:09):
get some hypnotherapy and see if I can see if
I can deduce like what happened or where I went,
or like the actual experience. But my level of understanding
is so deep that I know it's exciting for other people,
but for me it doesn't really matter because I know
they just took me somewhere, put the implant in my face,

(15:31):
trained it or tuned it to my body, and then
basically set me free.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
When you saw the light, it was straight in your eyes.
It wasn't across the road or in the sky or
anything like that. It was just in your eyes.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I thought it was I thought they were legitimate police
car lights that were actual police cars on the other
side of the road. I don't think it was induced.
I think it was a real image. But I don't know.
I mean, it was so long ago now well that
and I've remembered it so many times that my confidence
level in my memory is not high enough for me

(16:08):
to like open it up and try and expand on
that more.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
And you said your phone was dead.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I pulled it out in my pocket. I was
going to try and use it and it was completely dead.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Okay, what was your friends trying to call the phone?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, they tried to call a message and all those things.
And I mean it was on and charged when I
left the restaurant, So like, why didn't I answer the phone?
Where did I go? What happened? I was gone for
fourteen hours in total, just completely gone from the earth.
They looked around all and it's Cancun, so it's just
that tiny little band of beach. And if they looked

(16:43):
around for a couple hours, they checked for like a
mile in either direction and didn't find Like if I
fell down, heard or if something happened, they would have found.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
And were your friends concerned? I mean, did they go
to the police or anything that report you miss in
or did they just kind of think, you know, he's
probably find a bar or something.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
They look for me, and then they thought, well, maybe
he went back to the Maybe he went back to
the resort. So they went back to the resort. And
then by the time they were done, it was evening,
and so I think, I mean they didn't put up.
They didn't call the police because I hadn't been gone
long enough at that point. I'd got up from the table.
It was the evening when they got home, it was
still leaving, so I'd only been missing for a few hours.

(17:24):
And so you know, I mean, maybe I'll come back
with the story, or maybe something weird happened. So I
don't think they had escalated it to the police, but
they told me, they advised me that they were planning
and calling the police in the morning if I hadn't
showed up.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
And obviously it's a very cloudy, but what explanation did
you give your friends? Were you there with a partner?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I was, yeah, and she was furious, and I didn't
have an explanation to give her. I'm like, I don't know,
I don't know where I went. Just everything was gone,
like I just have no memory. Everything was black. And
I mean, this relationship that I went with this person,
it wasn't very it wasn't very they didn't have deep roots.
It was just still new, and so I don't think

(18:04):
she necessarily cared that much, but it devalidated the relationship.
The relationship didn't last much longer after that. Trip, and
I think that that I think that the abduction has
got a lot to do with that, the ending of
that relationship, because I mean, I can't imagine the undermining
of trust that she felt during that experience.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, that makes sense. We cancom were you win?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Sorry, We were on the I don't know that beach,
that area of the beach where all the hotels and
resorts are kind of the tourist depart and we went
to the there's a bubblegum fish factory on that arch,
and that was the exact restaurant where I was taken,
and my memory of the bank machine.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
There's about a mile away, a mile I think south
of the restaurant. There's actually a mall with two escalators
that go up and there's glass on the side and plants,
and I found a picture on the Internet and that
is the exact image. And at the top of those
top of those escalators, there's a bank machine there and

(19:08):
that's the exact bank machine that I tried to take
money out of or with my room keys roomkey.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
So this is quite a populated area, a lot of
tourists around. I'm wondering if there has ever been any
similar accounts from that that area, or even from Cancun.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I think Cancun was a hot spot in the eighties
or maybe the seventies for abductions and really interesting phenomena.
I know they like to be inclusive, they like to
include everyone. They'll make sure that they take a standard
distribution from from all of the countries and all the
places around the world. It's just the reporting metric is
not standardized, so we don't necessarily get reports from the

(19:46):
Third world countries. We don't necessarily get reports from the
other places around the world where this stuff is happening.
Different cultures handle this experience differently as well, right, And
so while our stigma may be waning, in other countries,
it's really taboo or it's really bad to say that
you've had an experience because of everyone's because of the

(20:06):
diversity of beliefs around this subject.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
And after you'd left Mexico and headed back to Canada,
was it the voices that you started to hear first,
or did you have any memories, any images or impressions
that surfaced after.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, so it's more than just voices they have. I'm
now my computer brain interface has been honed or trained
to the point where when I close my eyes, I
can just go into a virtual space and we have conversations.
And they use a lot of imagery to communicate, and
one of the most interesting things about them is their

(20:41):
ability to communicate thoughts and ideas, like they've really captured
or held onto the idea that it pictures a thousand words,
and they seamlessly integrated into their conversation to the point
where like verbal conversation like we have is too slow,
it is painful for them to communicate with the pace
you can express a whole sentence with a single picture

(21:04):
and so, or a single point of light, or to
make a point so that the person doesn't have to
finish talking, or all of what they do is trying
to conserve time, the only resource, the only resource you
can't make more of. And they like to take in
a very objective stance on things. One of their favorite
terms is to question the validity of something by asking

(21:24):
the question, is it you know, like ice cream is
the best favor of ice cream? And then someone would
challenge it with and is it Let's find out if
we can measure that objectively, right, and then getting actual
brain measurements in the brain and then scaling that over
like the entire population, and then measuring to see if
chocolate is definitively the winner.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Indeed, these voices, how do they sound to you?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
They can take on any like we can filter. I
could put a filter on my this call, so I
could sound like anyone I wanted to. I could sound
like George Clooney, or I could sound like Brad Pitt.
So they can put a filter on it, and they
have and they do. But they have just standard voices,
and there's a few different entities that they've talked to,
and so each one of them has a default definitive

(22:11):
voice that they use as there so that it's easily
distinguishable between them. But they sound like people.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Any accent or anything that we talked a little bit
at the very beginning about Canadian accents, is there anything
you can pick up on.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
That they can add accents to anything. They like to
joke around and have fun sometimes, and a part of
their world is making fun of things, making fun of people,
taking the piss out of things, taking the piss out
of people, And so they all do an accent, and
they can just add an accent to the filter and
it is on point. And so while they have the

(22:46):
ability to do accents, I do not sense any accent
at all. Although we have had to make some corrections
to the language, and we've had lots of conversations about
the progression of language over time, and there's actually a
learning rate or a change to the English language that

(23:07):
they've that they've measured, and so they know the frequency
that we change words because over timesh the English language
is not static. It is a dynamic thing, which is
why your accent, even though we both speak English, your
accent in my accent are different. And it's that rate
of change that are that the language takes as we

(23:27):
like separate from each other, right, and so they're constantly
having to like update the language with new words, new meanings,
new representations, and so that may be something interesting.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Not the implant. It's still there, still in your face.
Does it give you? Does it give you irritation? Does
it cause you any pain?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, it's it can it depends on the situation, but
for the most part, it's a nerd. I don't feel it.
It doesn't bother me. You can see it, like if
I take a flashlight behind the skin, you can see it,
but you like you can see the little black dot
under the skin. But no, it doesn't hurt me, not
the object itself.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
No.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Are you able to play around with it if you
can get the light behind it? Are you able to
move the round?

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah? Yeah, I can like touch it and squeeze it
and do all kinds of things, and it it doesn't
make It doesn't make any difference.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
And over time, has there been any movement in it?
Has it changed direction or traveled close to the surface.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, it is not.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yes, unusual because generally a foreign object will eventually make
its way out, So it's kind of like just structured
in there.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Well, I mean Jeremy Corbell has a movie about implants
called Patient seventeen, and when they took one out of
Patient seventeen, they also talk about Patient sixteen. Doctor Roger
Lear was removing implants from people, and this is years
ago now. They did some testing and they found this
really interesting coding on the outside so that doesn't react

(24:55):
with the skin, and then they cut it and they
did they did some spectral analysis of the implant, and
the implant was found to have isotopes, which is neutrons
that are outside of the standard distribution that we have here.
On Earth. I think one was particularly zinc. It had
non Earth isotopes of zinc in the object. It had yettrium,

(25:18):
It had all these rare Earth elements in it, which
are way outside the standard distribution. If it was just
a random piece of a Tonka truck or a needle
that broke off, or you know, a wire brush from
someone you know accidentally getting a wire brush stuck in
their face or whatever else, or I think it was
in his leg, so very very interesting piece. And I

(25:38):
think in the movie they had an analyzed and they
took it to a materials engineer and he was like,
this thing was definitely not made on Earth. It's an
extremely interesting piece of equipment. And I discussed the implant
with the entities that they talked to, and they explained
it to me like this Avagadro's number, which is one
times ten to the twenty three is how many atoms

(25:58):
there are in a mole, which is like some astronomical
number of atoms. Well, when you scale down to the
teeny teeny tiny you can actually this. Even though this
device is two point one seven millimeters, it's actually massive
at the smaller scale. So imagine and this is how
they explained it. They had a tiny robot, like we're

(26:20):
creating Optimists now so people can see this at Elon
Musk's new autonomous android robot. They built an Optimist bot
and they had it build a tiny machine shop, and
they had that tiny machine shop build a teeny tiny robot,
and they had that teeny tiny robot build a tiny
machine shop, and they kept going down until matter broke,
and then they started doing physics experiments down there, and

(26:42):
they validated quantum mechanics, they validated what light does down
at that scale, and they did actual experiments where they
could first person into a robot and do science and
check and see and look with a camera at that scale.
And so when you go down to that scale, this
two point one seven millimeter object, like in if you're

(27:04):
operating at the nanometer, that's like millions of meters, that
would be like two point one seven or two hundred
and two hundred and one two million, one hundred and
seventy thousand meters of space that you would have to
operate at the nanometer scale. So this thing could be
an entire warehouse of like stuff, right, and we don't

(27:28):
see that because we don't really understand the teeny tiny
world like they do, or like we're starting to see now,
we're starting to see this in our world. Nanotechnology coming out.
They talk about putting little tiny robots in your skin
that can attack certain certain pathogens and all kinds of solutions,
and we can, we can conceptualize this. But for a

(27:50):
civilization that's one hundred thousand years or maybe half a
million years ahead of us. To them, this is just
like everyday stuff. They don't even think about it. It's automated.
The computer does that job. We can see a thousand
years from now, the computer will be doing all the
jobs for humans on planet Earth. So for them, this
is old, tried and true tested science and physics. That's

(28:12):
why the device that they tested in patient seventeen was
so dynamic, because it's an engineered, built, designed computer interface
that's very complicated.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, I know a very small amount about nanotechnology. This
fascinating note. Have you considered having it removed?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So I have considered having it removed. And when I
was in Canada. In Canada, we have healthcare, and so
you don't really get to decide what happens. And so
the doctor wrote a referral. After all the investigating that
we did and the psychology and all the things to
go and see surgeon to have it removed, and for

(28:51):
whatever reason, the surgeon decided that I wasn't going to
get this thing removed, and so he refused to take
it out of me, and so I was stuck with
this thing in my face and there was literally nothing
I could do. Later on, I figured out I could
go to another country and have it removed. But by
the time I got through all of that rigormarole, because

(29:12):
you know, you wait for an MRIN for six months,
because it's Canadian healthcare system, you wait for your appointment
with the surgeon, it takes years to get through all
of these different appointments and doctors and stuff. And so
by the time the surgeon refused to remove it, which
I was still open to having it removed, they had
taught me so much physics and science and astronomy and

(29:35):
philosophy and all these things that now the object was
more valuable to me in than it was out, and
so I decided to keep it. And so I do
plan to get it removed, but I want to keep
it in place so that and I have an open
invitation to anyone to validate its existence with science. I

(29:57):
would have validated all kinds of things and have all
kinds of I have piles of data, but it doesn't
mean anything because I was in control of the data,
and so the chain of custody is me, and so
I could have altered it or whatever. And I want
an independent objective accounting or testing of this of this
device that becomes objective so that nobody can say, oh, well,

(30:19):
you know this happened or that happened to be legitimize it,
because the legitimacy of it is very important to me.

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Did?

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Speaker 1 (31:13):
It's time, It's ew, It's the x x X.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Would you be concerned about having it removed you think
it would cause you any problems? Yeah, I know you're
saying it's been beneficial over the time, but do you
think it would cause you any aversive thants to have
it removed?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I do. I do. As much as it learns my
brain through neuroplasticity, my brain learns it, and so I
have created a seamless interaction with this thing. And I
don't know what jobs or what functions it has taken over,
and so I would expect to have to like get

(31:58):
after getting in a car accident or or you know,
people go to rehab and have to relearn how to
walk or something. Some manifold, some function inside my brain
has been altered in a way that when it's removed,
I will have to rehabilitate myself to operate my brain
the way it was intended.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Okay, have you experienced any illnesses or symptoms since you've
had the implant? And also did you have anything before
that seemed to have got better and vanished completely?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
So I was a pretty healthy person. I'm a pretty
healthy person now, and so the device never had an
opportunity or they never had an opportunity to fix anything
in me because everything was fairly operational. So during the abduction,
I know that some people have reported having stuff fixed
and cured and stuff I do not. I cannot say

(32:53):
that that happened to me. And as far as the
negative implications of it, I went through some negative experiences,
but I would prefer to not include that in my
story because it's personal. But that's not why it undermines.
It undermines the bigger picture about our people needing to
see each other and understand and communicate so that we

(33:15):
can figure out a way to live together in harmony
for the rest of the time in the universe.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Okay, what about headaches? Is it caused any headaches or
anything like that, any migraines.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
No, it's it's caused the discomfort from time to time,
but it's if it does cause discomfort, it's done intentionally.
They have absolute control over it, so there's never a
need for anyone to go through any experience that's negative
as a result of the device. From the understanding that
I have of it, because there's multiple people in the

(33:46):
world on Earth. There's hundreds of thousands of these implants
that they put in people, and the whole point is
to get a first person perspective on their life so
that they can feed the algorithm, feed the data data
banks information about who we are, how we act, how
we think, how our emotions work, how we respond to

(34:06):
input and output, how we treat each other, the philosophies
that we have, our moral standings, what drives those moral standings,
and so that they can learn who we are so
that they know exactly who their neighbors are.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
And how often is the implant activated? Is it a
weekly daily thing? Is it something which just happens at
the blue.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
It happens to me all the time. It's on all
the time. And a lot of people are kind of
curious as to why my situation is different than a
lot of other people. And I don't know the answer
to that question objectively. I only have a subjective answer
to that. Some of it can be explained through scientific

(34:49):
theory if you accept that the computer chip or the
implant is a sensor, like we tag geese or we
tag dolphins on our planet to watch migration patterns and
to learn data about them, so that we can learn
how to live with them harmoniously. If we accept that
as a frame, and you accept that in the future

(35:10):
all jobs are going to be done by a computer,
then you know that the system is mostly automated because
it becomes a job watching someone else's life. That's not
living your life at that point. You're living someone else's life,
and so the computer, their AI does that job. But
when you have a scaled system with one hundred thousand
or half a million implants or whatever it is, in

(35:31):
a dynamic system such as the human culture, which is
constantly changing. There's two hundred countries with knowable number of
languages and situations, you need a way to know that
the data that's being collected by any given data point
where any given implant is correct. And so the way
that they do that is the first person in to

(35:54):
the actual extrastrial biological entity, the alien itself, the biological being,
first person in to a person's life, like you first
person into a robot. We've seen we can see some
of that. I think Japan is doing some really cool
stuff with that, where you can first person into a
robotic body. We've got exoskeletons that can operate and stuff,
So they first person into a person's body and they

(36:14):
validate that the computer's translation of that is valid. So
if I watch a sad movie, am I experiencing sadness
in the same way that they would, so that it's translated.
And so there is the language changing. I mentioned how
we talk about the changing language and the learning rate.
So making sure that that one sensor is fully operational

(36:38):
allows them to scale that validity to the whole network.
And so it's taking little tiny pieces of data. If
we had temperature sensors outside at all of the airports,
once a year, somebody goes out with a mercury thermometer
and they test it and they go, yeah, this mercury
thermometer and the digital thermometer we have are reading the

(36:58):
same thing. This is valid. And so my experience is
different because I just happened to be the person that
they turned on that they watched as a first person
position so that they could validate the data. And some
of the conversations that we had sparked interest, and so
they took an interest in me. I remember one of

(37:21):
the first times that I realized that I was talking
to extraterrestrials. I think she was telling me a story
about something, and we were having a good time, and
somehow I ended up saying that she's an alien, and
the whole conversation stopped, the images stopped, and everything stopped.
She said to me, why aren't you scared of me?

(37:42):
And I had always been interested in the Seven Wonders
of the world, Egypt and Peru and all of those things,
and so this was kind of before ancient Aliens took off,
or at least I had discovered ancient aliens. And I said,
if you've been if you've been here for thousands of
years and thousands of years ago, all we had to
defend ourselves was wooden sticks, and you have like advanced

(38:05):
technology to travel across from one star system to another,
I have nothing to hear from you. And she paused
for a moment, and she said, I never really thought
of that as an answer, And so I think that's
a reflection of maybe some of the interesting viewpoints I had.
Another thing that makes me unique is that I am

(38:25):
an atheist at heart. They tried to sell me hook
me with several different religions because it's one of the
methods that they use to interface with people so that
people can relate. It gets rid of a lot of
the noise, prevents a lot of the repeated questions from
coming up when they interact with people. And so I
think that because I was an atheist and asked questions

(38:46):
in ways and tried to interact with them in ways
that maybe they weren't used to, they took a particular
interest in me, And I think that's why I ended
up with the science and the technology and the interesting
perspectives and stuff that I carry with me today.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Now, does this happen more during your waking period? So
always this active during your sleep patterns.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
It's active during waking periods. Although they have kind of
I've seen behind the veil on how the sleeping thing works.
They have spooled me up in the virtual space while
I'm sleeping, and the dreams. The space that I go
into while I'm asleep is indistinguishable from reality. If I
didn't know what I knew and I was spooled up

(39:31):
into those spaces, I would think that it was real.
So they can control your sleep state by controlling your
brain frequencies and iterations. I'm working on a company to
bring some of this technology to humanity. I'm going to
have everything open source and share everything with everyone for free.
So it's not like I'm trying to grift off of

(39:52):
this or anything. I just want to improve the human state.
But they showed me that you can control your level
of sleep. So there's like four different levels of sleep one, two, three,
four ms sleep, deep sleep, and then the states as
you're waking up, and they can control the level of
depth that you are in sleep and keep you at

(40:12):
a certain point so that your brain doesn't really know
if it's a wake or not. And they can take
advantage of that state to interact with people in a
way that seeds a lot of confusion because there's obviously
everything is top secret. Our governments don't want us to know.
Perhaps they don't want us to know, I'm not sure,

(40:32):
but the secret is being kept from us, and so
as a function of that secret, they have to operate,
you know, in the gray areas where maybe it is
and maybe it isn't. Because I was fortunate enough to
see both states or all states, I can make that
correlation very clearly. Hard to articulate, hard to prove at
this point, but that is my goal moving forward, is

(40:53):
to is to validate all of this obviously bring the
technology to humanity, and you know, show people what I
see so that they can put some they can put
some closure to their experiences. I know a lot of
people have had traumatic experiences. Oftentimes just knowing what happened
to you or knowing the truth is enough to give

(41:14):
them some closure and give them some peace. And so
I would like to very much to help people achieve
that state experiences of duckies, that type of thing.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Of course, of course, it's a very broad spectrum when
it comes to people's experiences. Is there anything in your past?
Was there anything that happened when you were young that
you were cool?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
No, I had a very normal childhood, grew up in
a small town. I was a skeptic before this happened
to me, like until I started hearing voices, and I
didn't even put it together. Then it took me years
to figure out what was going on. I was a disbeliever.
I can remember having conversations with people and saying that,
you know, it's the science is very much in favor
of there being life in the universe, life in our galaxy,

(41:56):
even but I'm a scientist at heart. I'm an atheist
at heart, and I need the physics to work. And
you know, you can't break the speed of light. It's
the speed of the energy. So it is a really
hardline barrier. We have some theories and stuff, but we
don't have anything definitive. And so if you hold light
as a twelve the time of light or the speed
of light as a barrier, then traveling to another star

(42:20):
system becomes a very difficult challenge due to the time requirements.
And so you need a pretty significant motive in order
to travel to another star, like we'll do it one day,
but will we send people or will we send a
robot there? Like project the timeline ahead one hundred years,

(42:41):
and now our AI has got a thousand IQ and
it's smarter than us, and it's better at doing tasks
than us, and it's taken overall tasks. Why would we
even send a person to sit in a spaceship for
a thousand years to travel to the next star to learn?
And then that becomes a function of how do you
keep somebody alive for a thousand years? Do they have
children on? Is it like a generational trip? And so

(43:03):
the problem becomes very very complicated to solve. As you
start to dig into more and more and more and
more details. And so I as a kid or as
a person before my experience, I always thought that they
were real. But I didn't think that they were visiting
us because I couldn't put them on a motive. I
couldn't give them plausible reason to be here. I was

(43:25):
very much interested because it's one of the most interesting
things in the world. I just didn't think that it was.
You know, the governments are denying it. We're denying it,
especially back then hard you know, all the people who
tell stories, it's all so diverse and so different. They
talk about having multiple species being here, which now I

(43:45):
need more than one motive. I need ten motives or
eight motives, or however many species there are here. It's
a long way to go for Luki Lou. I need
to travel faster than the speed of light, which we
have none. There's interdimensional stuff, which we have some theories
and math and stuff, but like it didn't hold any
any real clout. There's no you know, signals down at
the quantum level. With none of our experiments, like we

(44:06):
can't we struggle to validate any of the stuff. We
can come up with some math where it starts to work,
but the energy requirements are astronomical, and so it really
becomes an implausible kind of solution to that problem. So
I had just wrote it off as the simplest answer
is usually the right one. It's with science commands, and
so I was like, they're just not here and people

(44:28):
have got there's a Mandela effect happening where everybody kind
of believes the same thing because well, you know, I
mean that's a human kind of tendency.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
And said, they give you information, How has that changed
your behavior? Is it got you to create things? Do
things change opinions? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, absolutely, it's been massively influential. Probably the most impactful
change that I've noticed is I've become more objective rather
than subjective, which has been very It's been very strong
change my life. I try to come up with an
objective truth. I try to be objective about situations, almost
to a fault. I push the limits of what's acceptable

(45:08):
around me. So there's a measurable change to me as
far as my personality goes and my state goes, but
as far as the information they've given me, Like I mentioned,
I've moved here to start a tech company, and I'm
reverse engineering the technology, and I'm going to start seriously
improving our systems and states to improve the human condition

(45:32):
so that we've got the foundation knowledge and education systems
and stuff so that we can meet them at their level,
because we're really not there, Like our species is still primitive.
We like to think that we've got a bunch of
stuff figured out, but we're really still just rubbing rocks
together trying to figure out how to get from point
A to point B. We have people on the planet

(45:52):
who don't have clean drinking water, you know, and struggle
for food and struggle for just the win of a
life without discomfort, and to them, we just look like
animals in the wild because they've solved all these problems
for thousands of years, and so it's difficult, a little
bit arrogant, but it's difficult for them to even conceptualize
how it can even be in this state. And so

(46:14):
it's you know, we need people to step up to
the plate and help drive the human condition forward. I
think that I want to make it my life goal
to try and to achieve as much of that as
I can.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
And you say you've been in conversations with them, have
you ever engagement conversations about them, about their origins, where
they come from, that along those.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Lines, absolutely, yes, I have. They're from a planet long
ways away from here, and they actually left incredibly a
star map. The Pyramid of Giza is a starmap that
goes that is, the directions back to their planet. The
angles and the big Queen's chamber queen shaper is a meme,

(46:57):
a symbol for traveling through the void, which is space,
and there's an inflection point where they bend around the
star to come. And the reason that nobody has really
decoded it is because it if you notice, the Pyramid
of Giza has got four sides, but on the summer solstice,
the one side shows you that it's actually got two sides,

(47:18):
and so it's an angle. And so that's the key
to lock the pyramid to the summer solstice or the
winter solstice, I'm not sure which. And then on that
day the sphinx points to a specific constellation which locks
the daytime to a specific date, and on that specific date,
at a specific time when the sun is at the
highest if you if you look from above at the pyramid,

(47:41):
you notice that the Orion's belt is inverted there's the
three pyramids are positioned in the position of Orion's belt,
but they're not linear to the sky. They're inverted. And
the reason they're inverted is because this position you're supposed
to take is from behind Orion Star, way back up there,
so that they align, and if you go to the

(48:02):
other side of Orion Star and look at the Earth
and look through that line, it will actually take you
exactly to the planet that they're from. And the reason
that they did that is they expected other life in
the galaxy. When they came here and they found us,
they were pleasantly surprised, or maybe not pleasantly surprised, as
we posed challenges, but they left. The Pyramid of Giza

(48:24):
is at the speed of light angle from north from
the equator. It's positioned at the center of all land masks.
It's supposed to be an objective or definitive proof that
intelligence has been here. And you're supposed to scan the
pyramid in three different frequencies of light. And there were
supposed to be a square, a triangle in a box
inside which got pilfered, and each one was made of

(48:46):
a different stone which was key to a different frequency
of light. To scan the pyramid with It was supposed
to reveal all of the secrets and of who these
people are, giving people little hints, and it was a
declaration that this was their system, which I don't think
anyone really has that narrative. But that's the conversations that
they revealed to me. So that's where they're from as

(49:06):
far as like where they're from, and their world was,
from what the conversations I had with them, was very dry.
It didn't have nearly the vast oceans that durs did.
And the majority of their evolutionary existence, once they became
intelligent enough that they would consider themselves like sentient, they
lived underground. They built large cave systems and lived underground

(49:30):
because we use geothermal energy for heating and cooling houses.
And the reason that we do that is because when
you go layer down into the earth, chemacter becomes constant,
and so you don't need heating and cooling, you don't
need It solves a lot of the energy problems. It
solves a lot of the issues. It's safe, your space
is controlled. And so they built massive structures underground and

(49:53):
they lived in these structures and they farmed insects, which
is their main primary source of food was before they
became more technologically advanced and changed it. But there have
a completely different biome than we did. Their planet wasn't
nearly as diversus ours. We had conversations about when they
came here and they discovered that we go through the

(50:17):
twenty six thousand year cycle oscillation cycle in our solar system,
which creates ice ages. They were fascinated by that, and
I think one of the reasons that they decided to
give us a hand with farming and teaching us the
summer solstice and winter solstice, which we can see evidence
of in Peru, and we can see evidence of it
in Mexico with chichen Itza and other wonders of the world.

(50:41):
They gave us that knowledge so that we could have
a little boost because the ice ages. You take the
land mass now where the mind calendars said the twenty
twelve we went through a reset of the mind calendar,
and so our calendar got reset, and so we're going
through our galactic summer, and so our plant and it
is at the warmest that it will be. Well, it

(51:02):
gets a little warmer because it is the beginning of summer.
It gets a little warmer, and then it starts to
cool off and we go into an ice age state. Well,
when you go into an ice age state, ice covers
seventy percent of the land mass fifty percent of the
land mass, depending on the intensity of the ice age,
which is a cyclical cycle that's relative to the galaxy.

(51:22):
But when the land mass shrinks, the competition on that
land mass increases. All the tigers, all the lions, all
the elephants, all the snakes, all the scorpions, everything has
to converge at the same land mass, and so intelligence
doesn't rise to the top in that state. Physical dominance does.
And when physical dominance presents itself, creatures die, they go extinct,

(51:45):
and the ones that survive are the ones that are
tough enough to claim the resource of plant life, which
is the ultimate driver for life, because all of the
complicated life eats. Like a tiger eats a rabbit, and
the rabbit spends its whole life gathering vegetable energy, grasses
and other seeds and stuff, and then the tiger will

(52:08):
eat that rabbit and eat its entire lifetime worth of
food gathering, and so the chain, the food chain goes
works that way. And so what they found was that
really violent tendencies get reset intelligence every twenty six thousand years,
and so they gave us the methods to successful farming
and all these things because they recognize how smart we

(52:30):
are and how long we've been trapped in this twenty
six thousand year cycle, and they decided to give us
a little boost. And that's why we see all of
these megalithic structures around the world, is because they build
things different than us. They don't build stuff with engineering failures.
They build stuff to last as long as possible, trying
to maximize the respective work. Because if you're going to

(52:51):
ask somebody to sacrifice enjoyment to go to work, they
want that work return to be maximumzed. And so when
they build stuff, they build it to last thousands of years.
The pyramid are still there, the walls they built improve
are still there. Are stuff maybe not so much so.
When you understand their culture and you understand who they are,
and you understand how they think and how they how
they feel and how they act, all this stuff all

(53:13):
starts to make sense and forms a linear path of
reason which can be validated externally through the artifacts and
the spaces on the earth that we can go to
and see and touch and look at and question and
be like, well, why would they do this and why
would they do that? And so it all starts to
make sense with the story that I was given.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
They mentioned where they presently occupy, Yes.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
They did. So we hear the military release of information.
We see we hear timber chat talking about it, see
him on the X and all over the place, trying
to get as much interest as he can in the subject.
And we hear of the underwater they call usos. So
there's UFOs and there's usos. Anyway, the ones that go
into the water, and they talk about it in Ages disclosure,

(53:56):
how they can seamlessly go from water to air to space.
And so the entities that are here working are actually
in the ocean. They have big kind of like they
made a movie about it, the Abyss. And in the Abyss,
which is a movie from the eighties and the nineties
or something, at the bottom of the Mariana Trench they
found aliens there and they had a conversation about you know,

(54:18):
humans fighting and all this stuff that actually resonates very
strongly with the truth and the reason that they're in
these trenches. They have operations all over the place is
because we can't get there, and so it's just as
difficult for us to go to the bottom of the
trench Mariana's trench, or as it is for us to
get the space. And so they operate from these positions

(54:39):
as the Earth Workforce. So the people that are here
working to monitor us and do data collection as that
part of their job, are here doing that, and the
rest of them live inside the clouds of Jupiter. And
I know that no one else is saying this narrative,
but it makes the most sense. And I'll tell you why.
As you your economy, energy economy moves into the future,

(55:03):
eventually we run out of hydrocarbons, and when we run
out of hydrocarbons, we're going to need to lean on
renewable energy. But there's only a certain amount of sunlight
that hits the planet in a given day, and our
energy needs now don't even come close to what our
energy needs are going to be when everybody has a
robot and everybody's three D printing all of the things
that they want. And as our technology advances, the amount

(55:26):
of energy per person is going to increase, and so
we're going to need to find them a solution for energy.
And the next logical progression for energy, which we are
currently working on is fusion, where you take two hydrogen
atoms and you push them together really hard and you
to turn them into helium, and that gives a whole
bunch of energy. But the problem is it turns into
the same exact problem that we had with hydrocarbons. Where

(55:48):
do you get the hydrogen from? And so you have
to have a supply of hydrogen. And yes, hydrogen is
the most abundant resource in the universe, but you need
it at scale bathtub of water at least, this is
our human calculations. If you check it on the internet,
and they'll say that a bathtub full of water is
enough energy to power and energy a person's needs for

(56:11):
a lifetime. Now, two molecules of that are hydrogen, one
molecule is oxygen, and so we get a bunch. But
once you convert water into you peel off the hydrogen
from water and you turn it into helium, that water
is now gone. You can never have that water again ever,
so it turns into the same non renewable resource that

(56:32):
hydrocarbons are. So where you're going to get your hydrogen
from and you start looking to space and well, okay,
we need hydrogen. We'll wear is hydrogen collect naturally in
the Solar system in the universe and then collects naturally
in gas giants. And what makes our Solar system particularly
interesting to these beings and to us and to other

(56:53):
life that maybe out in the universe is that our
solar system has four gas giants, which is extremely rare.
We are aware in our astronomy is changing all the time.
And I don't want to put a line in the
sand because people will say that I don't know what
I'm talking about, but gas giants are very rare in
the Solar system. We only know of a few solar

(57:13):
systems that even have one, let alone two, three, or four.
And so when you start to think on the timeline
beyond like a five year plan or a ten year plan,
and you're planning one hundred thousand years in the future,
you're planning a million years in the future like a
species that lived in space, like an advanced civilization, would
you start to need a source hydrogen? And if you

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use the Earth's ocean, so if you take all the
water on Earth and you turn it into a unit
of matter, so a volume like imagine how big the
ocean is, right, you turn that into a unit of measurement.
Jupiter alone, that's one of the four gas giants, has
half a million earth oceans of hydrogen, not water hydrogen,
it's one hundred percent hydrogen, liquid hydrogen, liquid metal hydrogen,

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I think they call it. And so it becomes this
a man's resource of energy, sustainable, not really because you're
turning it into your turning into helium, but it's an
energy source that you can tap into. And when you
start to look at the astronomy of the Solar system,
which is another thing that they taught me, you learn

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and when we've only been looking at our galaxy for
maybe fifty years or maybe one hundred years, not very long,
and on the scale of the galaxy, things move very
slowly relative to human time, and so one hundred years
is a very small sample size. It's like taking a
picture of a car and trying to figure out how
fast it's going. It's very difficult. But when you start
to learn more about the galaxy and how the galaxy works,

(58:39):
you learn that all the planets, all the stars sorry,
are at a different radius from the center and if
they're all at different radius, that means that they're all
traveling at different speeds. And if all the stars in
the galaxy, and there's trillions of stars and millions of
stars in the galaxy, if they're all traveling in different speeds,
that means it eventually they catch up to each other.
And when they catch up to each other, they turn
into binary and try in air systems. And if we

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look at the and if we look at the galaxy,
we can see that I think it's between forty and
sixty percent of the stars in our Milky Way are
binary and triin ay systems. So we know that this
is a true and real phenomenon. There's a show on
Netflix called three Body Problem. The reason that that show exists,
in my belief, is because we haven't solved the three

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body problem. A three body problem can't be solved. You
can't have two stars orbit each other and have planets
around them. So if the planets disappear from just from
the their star, if they lose their gravitational pull when
they run into another star, or the star burns out
or whatever happens, then you need to have a plan
that is an independent of a planet. And so they

(59:43):
saw all of this, and they traveled to a place
where there's four gas tents, and so they live. They've
created a structure that they live in inside the clouds
of Jupiter, and they have the mathematical perfect number of
people to maximize quality of life for each individ creating
a state of plenty and having enough energy that they

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can survive on that planet until our star runs into
another star and it turns into a binary or trinary system.
The planets leave, and then they'll go and find somewhere else,
which I'm sure they have a plan for, but they
haven't told me. Because they can track the movements in
the galaxy a lot better than we can, because their

(01:00:25):
astronomy is obviously significantly better than ours. They've been looking
at the galaxy for one hundred thousand years or two
hundred thousand years, and we've only been looking at it
for like twelve minutes. So for us to expect them
to have a deeper understanding of the galaxy and astronomy
is I think to be expected.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
So obviously they've been very open with you. Have you
ever said to them to maybe pay you a visit?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
So that's not a real thing. When the conquistadors, which
are humans, went from Spain to South America, they down
there killed all of the indigenous population. And the reason
for that was because the people couldn't handle the pathogens right,
the viruses, the bacteria. Our people can never interact. There

(01:01:10):
is no way that our biology could interface. It would
be absolutely catastrophic for both parties. And as far as
seeing an object, it wouldn't help me do anything, or
it wouldn't do anything to push anything forward, because there's
objects everywhere. They shut down airports just to be you know,

(01:01:33):
just to whatever purpose they're doing there. So we see
their objects all over the place. And I don't. I don't.
I've never actually seen I've never actually even seen. I've
never actually seen a saucer or a ship or an
entity like a physical manifestation of one. I've never actually
seen one. Despite all of my stories and journey and

(01:01:53):
conversations that I have had with them and stuff, I've never
I've never been fortuitous enough to get to see. I've
seen lots of pictures and stuff online, and I know
how their ships work and I can explain all of it. Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I haven't seen one, Okay, And you have put this
down in a book called mind Hacked.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yes. Yeah, I go into quite a bit more detail.
I talk about their culture more. They have rules in
their culture that they've shared with me. I've been allowed
to argue those rules because there was enough content with
me interacting with them that we needed some form of
like right and wrong or some form of what's okay
and what's not okay. And they believe in arguing, and

(01:02:35):
so they allowed me to argue for my position or whatever.
And so they as a function of that, they shared
some of their rules with me, the ones that I've
needed to survive in their world and have conversations and
be there, because I mean, not every conversation is even
I'm sure. I'm sure even with your wife, you get in.
He did arguments from time to time, and so some

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semblance of order is a request.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
After twenty odd years now, we don't argue.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
She just plots, adding and scheming. Yeah, what I'll do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Is to our listeners, I will make Sean's book available
down in the show notes and on the website to
check it out. And you've got a YouTube channel, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I have a YouTube channel, and I go into some
of these theories with a little more depth. I'm constantly
working on stuff. Again, it's different than the narrative that's
out there. But I mean, I've seen, I've seen behind
the veil, and I know who these people are, I
know what their culture is like. I know it's a
lot easier for me to suss out their motives. And
I think, I mean, I call my channel maximal truth

(01:03:38):
because I tried to take a scientific frame throughout this
entire experience. I tried to figure out what the chip was,
how it was working, how it was interacting with me.
I learned all the science that I could to fill
in the gaps on our end, along with the supplemental
that they taught me and gave me. So I tried
to find the truth. And I always held on to

(01:03:59):
the idea, the scientific principle that the simplest answer is
almost always the correct one. And so in my channel,
even though it's different in my book, a little bit different,
the simplest answer kind of rises to the top. It
doesn't need any physics to break. It doesn't need it
doesn't really need anything to break, except for, you know,
to open our minds to the idea that our government

(01:04:22):
tells us that they can't explain it. We say we
can't explain it, and there's more questions than answers. And
if there's more questions than answers, then we don't really
know definitively what the truth is, including myself. But it
is my best guess. It is my best attempt to
find the truth and to share it with the world.

(01:04:42):
And I'm always learning and honing my skills and trying
to learn more and talking to other experiencers and trying
to find that objective truth. And I want to I've
made it my mission to try and share that with
the world. So the channel in the book, are in
this interview are my way of bridging that gap. So
I do appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Thank you so much, No problem, Sean, I really appreciate
you coming on and sharing that for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Okay, thank you and having a wonderful day.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Take care of yourself and we will speak soon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Thank you for the opportunity, have a great day. Bye
for now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Okay, Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated
and connected with the show on x Facebook and Instagram,
and if you have an encounter that you'd like to
share on the podcast, you can email me at UFO
Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out
to me via the contact page on my website ufo

(01:05:37):
Chronicles podcast dot com. A big fanga to Sean for
sharing tonight and thank you all for listening. I will
be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep
watching the skies. Goodbye, s