Ep.400 Aboard the Unknown

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO it?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you
wish to report a UFO.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Over, Hey, we want to one of those data areas
thirty one.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither. There were seven one.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
If it was anybody above us to pass us, like
thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,
OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over, I go.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us. See,
I passed out over the top of US ninety one one.
You just called both to be before they're after staying
the airplanes.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
He is, I sere to God more calm in on
an unidentified object every liberty or call or calm on
an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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Hello everyone, great.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
To have you back.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast.
For our guest tonight, we have Frankie call It from
Nova Scotia, Canada and his encounters began in the late
nineteen nineties when a mysterious voice called him outside to
a silent craft ho ring outside. Frankie believes that moment
began nearly thirty years of abductions, missing time, strange beings,

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and medical style procedures.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Frankie is up next, but.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
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Speaker 3 (02:38):
Now on with the show.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Hello, Frankie, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Thanks thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I love decided you're more than welcomes. It's great to
have you here tonight and you'll come in to us
all the way from Nova Scotia, Canada. Correct, I am sir, great,
I never guess with experiences there. Now, Frankie, you have
several experiences you're going to be sharing with us tonight.
Would you like to start at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Please, sir?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah? Sure.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I remember I was six and seven. I was a
little sick, so say, I ended up getting a total surgery.
I had my tatles taken out. So after I had
my tatle steaking out, I remember we moved shortly after that.
And this incident was the first time anything ever happened
to me. And it wasn't just oh I woke up.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was a ufol. I fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I remember waking up, and when I woke up, it
was almost like have you ever looked outside during a
thunderstorm and when you see the flash of light and
then it goes to dark, flash light goes to dark,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's what was happening in my room.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
My power was out, which was not odd because the
where I lived, the like electrical grid was really bad.
Everything was being updated, so that wasn't really anything. And
a sort what was that it sorts was it was
like a thunderstorm was outside and I was seeing a
light kind of shining kind of it was almost like

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I was watching the thunderstorm, but the light from the
thunder and lightning was going in a circle. And during
this process, I, as a little kid, decided I want
to go look out the window. I looked out the window,
and my bedroom window had basically a perfect vantage point,
almost perfect to a power substation right by my house

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where basically all the electricity for the camp got roded
through in that. So I look out the window and
I'm seeing the flashing low and I'm seeing a saucer
type crap like a UFO.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I can't explain it.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I've been asked numerous times, but I really can't explain
anything about it other than I had this kind of
like I looked outside. I remember propping up some Teddy
Bears and toys and stuff on the floor, and I
looked out the window and I'm like a thousand yardstairs
the best way I can describe it. And it felt
like I was being called to. I didn't hear someone saying, hey,

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come here, come here, you know, but it felt like
I was being compelled to leave. And a lot of
people say, oh, you're a little kid, you know, why
would you leave?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, your hairse Yeah, yea. Yeah. Well, back then
where I lived.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It was so safe that like in the middle of
the night, someone could knock on your door, walk in
have a cup of tea. You'd wake up and be like, oh, hey,
what's going on, Jim. It was just a really small town.
Everyone knew everyone, everyone knew what everyone throw in your garbage,
and no one cared about the type of thing, you know.
There was no crime, like I never heard of anything.

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The worst was like some person got drunk and started
a fight, basically it. So it was just a really
safe place to live then. And so I've had this
feeling that I was compelled. I walked outside. I remember
getting out and I went out the back door of
the house and there's this tiny little house. And I
get outside and I crossed the road. And the road's

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not a very long road. It's like enough for one
car and then another car on the other side of
the road.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Could barely be there.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I crossed over, and I remember going down and
up a little tiny ditch. I was just on the
train tracks. The train tracks were so close to my
house you could you could literally piss on it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Is what my dad used to say. And I remember
being on the train tracks.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I remember scanning the sky and this whole time in
my head, I know I looked out the window and
I know I saw something, and I knew it wasn't
a plane, and what I saw was very much just
a classic Saucer UFO and it's over the power substation

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and I don't know the exact like how many feet
away it was from me offhand. I did everything out
on Google Maps before and applotted everything and then that,
but I don't know that out by hand right now,
but I do know that it went from there. I
blinked and it was gone, and I'm scanning the sky.

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I can't see it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And at this point I'm kind of kind of getting
scared because I guess I kind of snapped too and whatever.
Some people said that it had an effect on me.
Some people said it made me come outside. I'm not
saying it did or didn't. I just know I felt
compelled I walked outside, and at this point, and I'm
assuming if it did have some type of effect on me,

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it wore off, because at this point I'm getting scared
a little boy. I'm not just like a little boy,
that's oh, you know, I'm gonna go with venture, which
I did, sure, But I was also very scared of
a lot of things then, just because I was a
little sick and I didn't have a lot of experiences
of a big world. I lived in a tiny town

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that was like ten thousand people down to less than
fifteen hundred people.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
There was like no one in this down.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It was the first time it was ever really truly
scared like that. And I blink, and then the whole
moment of me blinking, which running in my head is
this fear. And I see the lights coming down at me.
So I'm on a train track and about maybe two
hundred yards or three hundred yards away from me down

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is the craft in question, which the craft in question
is just hovering. One of the things I noticed about it,
and I know this is before I was on the
train track, but it had kind of like panels, I
guess you could call them, And it was very bright,
and the light seemed to be emanating from these panels.

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The craft was spinning, and the panels were spinning in
an opposite direction. I couldn't make out really any like
close up features, like, say, was there a you know,
letter in on the craft or anything like that. But
I was transfixed on this in the sky and the
lights that I saw, and it was kind of, I

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want to say, kind of oscillating a downward but not
like coming down to the ground of land. It was
almost like it was oscillating in emotion and keeping in
the same kind of reference plane, the same area, but
kind of oscillating up and down. So I'm seeing all this.
I'm quite terrified at this point, but also I'm one

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of those I'm terrified, but I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh, this is this amazing? What is this?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And very easy for me to say that now, but
as a kid, it was terrifying, but I thought it
was cool. But I was also as a kid, I'd
try to be cool so I wouldn't get to hear
the things that I didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So this is os lat and I'll say two three
hundred yards away from me. The best way I can
describe it is you ever see like a hubcap roll
down the road and it falls and it goes and
it kind of goes up and down almost like the oscillation,
and keeps getting slower and slower till it stops. That's
what it looked like. But it never got slower and

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slower and stopped. It just kept going, and I don't
know how it did that. It was mesmerizing all that's
happened and all that has happened. And I did see
this flying. I blinked the moment that blinked and it
real I finally did see it down where it was.
I know this what looked like a I want to say,

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a discharge or like a blue electrical type of build
up of electrical energy, which kind of like under the craft.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
But that dissipated.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I didn't see, you know, nothing like you know, rivage
or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
This thing made a.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Beeline for me within such a short amount of time
that I couldn't it wasn't oh, I blinked that it
was there. It was just there, like it was always
above me, even though I was looking at it about
two or three hundred yards away. It was so fast
my brain couldn't comprehend how fast it was. I can't
comprehend a fast it's coming. But it's also almost in

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a look. For half a second or so, it felt
like everything went standstill and you're watching something very slowly
come at you and your brain snapped back, and it's
just there. I remember how blind and the light was,
how warm everything felt. The next thing, I know, it's

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above me, and I could tell now as an adult.
As a kid, I didn't know, I didn't ever reference
for it. By the said of an adult thinking back,
it was like a perfectly three D printed mold object.
It was just perfect other than what looked to be
panels that I say almost wear a honeycomb or hexagonal patron.

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I'm not one hundred percent sure of which one it was,
but it was like one or the other. And those
panels were going in the opposite direction of the craft.
So the craft, I remember the best of my ability,
was spinning in a right kind of oscillate motion. But
then when it was over me, it was just spinning
in the right motion, or maybe it wasn't spinning, and

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the lights that were lit up seemed to be going left,
and maybe that's why I thought the craft was going
right because the lights were going left.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Maybe I don't know. So it's over me. It it
felt like forever, and it was not forever.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
It was I want to say, look a second or two,
I had an intent ringing in my ear like tonight,
this but a thousand times worse, a million times worse,
and it was in both ears. I had a pain
in the left side of my head and it felt
like I was going to pass it out. My eyes
were fluttering, and I remember feeling not like I was

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being floated off the ground, but almost a little weightless
or a little bit like I have butterflies in my
stomach and all the hair and I'm a hairy guy now,
but even as a kid, I got picked on a
lot for this. All the hair in my body was
standing up, like rubbing up balloon on your head to
get that like static electricity build up. It was just

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like that, and then everything went black. Then I go
on to when I'm actually I wake up and I'm
aboard the actual craft itself. So at this point I
wake up. The best way I describe it is what
I just tell people. I it's like to ever wake up,
whether it's in the high boil, your wake up and

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it's bright and the sunshine on your face, and you
got all the white lights and kind of got like
your first wake up and your your visions. It's kind
of a little blurried. Everyone knows what I mean, so
to say, and that's what I'm seeing. It's kind of
like rub my eyes to kind of thing. That's what
I wanted to do. I noticed there's tiny little gray

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creatures actually running around a room. I kind of like
look up and I can't really move and my heart
handing out on my chest. One thing I want to
say is, besides the fact that it felt like my
heart was beard on my chest, even as a little kid,
I had a heart problem. My older brother did too.

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Part of the reason why I felt like when I
heard solved this cracked and when the electrical whatever it was,
and all my body here was raising off me kind
of like you know, the blowing. I mentioned that, I
feel like when that happened, something snapped or something happened

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that caused me to get injured or something like that.
Because I had a little bit of a heart problem,
and that's that's why I thought I was taken. Years later,
I was like, oh, maybe it because I was in
the wrong place, wrong time. I didn't know, but oh,
I am terrified at this point. Not just scared. I

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mean it was like trying to imagine laying there and
every part of your body, your spine, your organs, everything
that is you, that makes you besides how you think,
every part that runs your body is trying to get
away from your body is trying to escape center stage.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
So to say.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It felt like my body was trying to get away
from itself and was absolutely like rhymeal fear I was.
I've never felt anything like that in my life. Obviously
I was only six to seven years old, and sure,
someone say, that's not a long life, so you know,

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there's plenty of scary things out there. I've never experienced
anything that scary since because it's a weird thing to say,
but I've gotten used to it. But that fear was,
It's like my spine was trying to slither out my
body and say, now we're getting any here. We don't
want any part of this situation. Like every part of

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me that makes up me was trying to hear the
way because it knew something new. I should not be there,
or I should this is not a good situation. A
way I'd like to describe this is I felt like
I was a piece of male in a sorting room
at a post office. That's how insignificant I was to

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these creatures. I was just a piece of male there
sortin as being poked and prod it. I was just insignificant,
and that's just how I felt. I was getting warm.
I would start up sweating. I'm looking around the room.
They're scurrying around the area I'm in is in hot
though nothing feels hot. Everything's a very cold, like synthetic

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sterile situation.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's what it felt like. My voice is crackling.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I was nervous, and every time I would cry out,
I was screaming for my mother and my father anyone.
And every time I would cry out for help or
ask for any type of help or you know, it's
just done there, you know what's going on, my voice
would echo, and when it returned back to me, my

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voice almost sounded like a whisper. So it's like an
echo and comes back and it's like I'm whispering at myself.
It was a very it was a very odd situation.
I'm on this, Gabe. There's a blinding light above me.
Think of it similar to a hospitle light. And a
lot of people might say, oh, he's having a nightmare.

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He had a surgery and that's why he's having his
brain's just you know. It was a terrifying situation. He's
reliving that I did have a surgery. I have my tonsils,
So it was the best time in my life. I
say this to people. I was afraid of that. I
had ice cream every day, I had pretty nurses taking
care of me.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I felt like a king.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I was six years old, seven years old. I loved
every second of that experience. I was not afraid of
the surgery. I remember being a little kid being like,
bringing on, I can't wait to get my tonsils out,
my ad noid doubt, and I'm gonna have eat all
the ice cream because the doctor said I can eat
as much ice.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Cream as I wanted.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I was pumped, was not afraid. I remember waking up
from that surgery and being like, yeah, buddy, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Can we do it again?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just for some reason, it was a great situation for me.
Play with a lot of toys that have a whole
section of the hospital for kids. I don't buy into
the narrative that I had a nightmare and it was
reliving my trauma of having a surgery. So I have
these blinding lights above me and a bright piercing light,

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and it's still hard to make anything go because the
hell bright it is, and the room is bright in
a way of think you have led strip lights everywhere
in your room, and you set them in the white
you see that white glow, but there's no light, there's
no LEDs, there's no bulbs. It's just the glow of
the light. And I can't see where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
So I'm unable to move.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I feel like I'm frozen, but I can move my
head around, and it's not like I can sit.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Up at the table and move around.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And I taught bits and pieces of it where I
could see like a hand or I can see like
one of them leaning over and looking at me and
pointing the long finger towards me and then kind of
scaring away. It was almost like children were plicking on
another kid.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's what it was like.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
These whatever they were, felt like they were young and
picking on me or laughing and giggling at.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Me reacting to them.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
And they weren't very tall stereotypical everyone says it, but
three to four feet tall. They were very cold in
the sense of it felt like they're picking on me.
Then I was just a piece of male in the
mail room. They didn't really have a sensation to them,
like it didn't feel like they were freezing hot, a

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freezing cold or boiling hot, like they're skin or anything
like that. They just had this malicious well I shouldn't
say maliciousness, vibe to them like I didn't matter when
I was insignificant. At this point, I'm so you know,
I'm freaking out. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm panting.
One of them looked like he's holding an object, which
I assumed was a syringe or something similar. That's hard

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to describe, but it had a circular base with a
square head, and it was about eight inches in length
and silver. And it had two buttons on its side,
similar to like if you look at anyone has a
cell phone, you got your two buttons for a volume
up and down. Had two buttons on the side, like
almost like an up and down button, like the volume buttons.

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And it was, like I said, eight inches is like
silver metallic, And it had the square head and the
bottom part of it the base was circular.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
That entity came up to me with its big soul
as eyes.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
As I described it, they looked almost sickly, like frail, sickly.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Meet they didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
They didn't look like a perfect specimen that was fit,
and again reiterating how absolutely terrified I am at.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
This young age this is happening to me. I don't
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know why it's happening to me that I
still to this day. It's a weird way to describe this,
but I can't sleep with my back to the door
because I'm afraid I'm going to wake up, turn and
see something staring at me the same way this thing
stared at me as a little kid.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
So every night I go to sleep, if.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm not on my back, I have to be facing
the door because if I'm not facing the door, something
could silk at me.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
And that's what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Still thirty years later, and still thirty years later, it
still happens. I'm not going to say it happens every day,
but I still am terrified to walk get up in
my bed and go to my washroom in broad daylights,
and my washroom is maybe two feet it's very close.
He has walked into the room in the washroom crate there.

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That's how refining this was help soul this and just
devoid of any emotion. The eyes of this, this thing,
this was It was not a good situation. And I'm
a hyper I'm a wiry little kid. I did like
to adventure, but I didn't like to go out a loan.

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I like to be out with my friends or my sister.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Now I tried.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I always fixated on details as a kid, but it
was hard to, obviously, in this situation, to fixate you
on anything. And at this point, it's placing its hand
on my mouth or technically, I should say on my chin,
and held my chin down and took that device I
mentioned hit a button and I think it might have

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been the bottom button, but I'm not going to say
one was.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
And a light shined in my eye and in my head.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I instantly went, I'm being examined, and it's touched.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
It wasn't like, oh, a doctor was touch to me.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It was like nothing was touch to me, Like nothing
was touch to me. I couldn't feel a thing from this,
nothing other than the fear, other than the ugliness that
everything that was horrible about the situation. But the physical,
the physical touch felt like nothing nothing. It was like
fake and its skin was almost like a rubber malleable,

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almost like marshmallows, like marshmallows that people eat, it's kind
of like that in an outer layer of the marshmallow
itslf how it's kind of like everyone knows what they
feel like, but everyone eats them, but like you run
your fingers across the oulder layer and it's kind of
like that kind of slightly coarseness flip top. That's what
the skin kind of felt like. And it was like

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I was feeling a dead doll that was alive. It
raised its canned up over as I'm swirming and being
wiry and yelling and probably spitting, because back then my
list was way worse than I could barely speak without
s noises everywhere. And I remember its hand goes up

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from holding my chin down and covers my lower lip
and then tries to cover my top lip, and I
bit down on its hand. And anytime I bring that up,
people freak out and say, oh my god, you know
your bit one like you know, go you well didn't
seem to really do too too much, but it did react.

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But it was almost like how it described like a
rubber gelatin or like the marshmallow or elder skin, and
there was no like, oh, there's a bone in there.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
There was nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
And I remember when I bit down to kind of
looked at me almost and its hand and me again
almost like uh, and then just backed the way, almost
like confused at what happened, Not like, oh, the little
frigger bit me, nothing like that. It's almost like weird
puzzled this whole time this is happening. There's two other

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entities off to the side that are looking at me,
and they've at this point walked and on my side
partially so I can't fully see them. And I'm still
in a state of what I'd like to say is
near paralysis. I can move my head, I can move
it around, I can move my lips. I'm on this
table in this state of near paralysis, and I see

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to the side something has hit, something like a button
was hit, or or like a switch was flicked. And
I was able to look out at an angle from
the left side, and a wall opened up, not like

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a door when you know open the wall like it
was like the wall went up into itself.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't know how that happened. I don't know how
the wall.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Would go up into the ceiling part of the wall
where it meets the doorway arch. Let's say, try to
picture your door going up into the arch and the wall,
and none of the material is left over, and there's
no excess floating around. There's no bulge, it's just there.
It's like, Okay, I don't understand how that happened. So
this happens. Then that wall goes up and I see

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two long arms, a part of a torso, part of
the legs of another gray But this one was tall,
almost seven feet tall. This wasn't three to four feet tall.
Though this was tall, bony. This thing looked real. This
thing looked like it had weight to its movement. It

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wasn't like a little punched over gremlin or anything like that.
I'm still freaking out. I don't know what's happening at
the point, I can't see its face yet. Whatever this is,
I got a ability of a built on a human
being would be past the belly button, under the chest area.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
That's about as much I can see.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I don't and I'm not gonna say I heard someone talk,
because I don't remember if I heard someone talk, or
if I'm hearing this in my mind, I hear I
say I heard leave. You're not to hurt this one.
And it was in a soft male voice, and it's
almost like I heard it out loud, but more so
in my head. And I don't even know if that's
what I heard or if that's what it just that's

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the closest thing I could comprehend.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It said. I don't know. Some people have told me
they don't talk. You just hear what you want to hear.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I just know that what it sounded like to me
was leave, You're not to hurt this one. And I'm
a little kid. I don't know what's happening. I start
freaking crying. I'm asking as someone there, can someone help me?
And I remember being pleased God, please, because as a
little kid, I still believed in God and I was

(29:00):
for him to save me.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'm still this is all. I don't know how long
this says.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
If it's a minute, I don't know if this is
ten hours. It's so much it's happening at once. I
hear that, and I heard young male six years of
age earth. I think I heard beginning contact, as if, like,
you know, beginning contact with me, but I'm not It
was kind of muffled, kind of like I'm so overloaded

(29:26):
would stimuli. Everything was kind of like when you ever
had like your ears popping, it's really hard to hear.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
It was like that, but way worse.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
And so the lights, the sounds, everything was so stimulating
that I'm struggling to really grasp what I'm hearing. And
I know what I'm hearing, but not one hundred percent
if it's one hundred percent true, a one hundred percent
what I heard, but I know it's enough that someone
is saying something I could feel. At this point, this
is walking up to me. It had a presence, and

(29:58):
I'm told do not be alarmed. And then it says
the pests are gone because those I bit, the one
in the hand, and the other one's moved up, and
this one that I bit moved up with them. It says,
the pests are gone. You will not be harmed, and
you can move. And at this point I'm able to
actually move, like I can look around and I can

(30:18):
move my arms. I felt relaxed and calm. I literally
went from this insane stimuli overloaded. I was freaking out.
I was like, I can't even explain it. I can't
explain the fear. I can't explain any of it, and
then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, the way
I describe it now as an adult is you came
out of a surgery, or you've got a really bad

(30:41):
injury and they give you pain meds or something like that,
or if anyone's ever taken diazepin like a valume.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
It's like I was like that.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I was like, oh, I was completely tranquil and calm immediately.
And at this point I want to see its face,
what it looked like. I don't know why I wanted
to see its face, because up to this point, I'm terrified.
I didn't want to see any more of this, the
big black guys, the big head and the tiny bodies
and these long fingers. I didn't want anything to do

(31:11):
with any of this. But I wanted to see this
for some reason. And this one looked like it actually
had expressions like it had. It actually looked like it
had an arch where its eyebrows would be like us,
like approximal Cameran name or the actual name right now,
but it's an arch in your skull where your eyes sit.

(31:32):
It looked like it had that like us, and it
really he felt alive and I'd say he because I
feel like it is a male. And the other ones
didn't feel like they're alive. They felt like sold this
little drones. But this one felt real. It had real
bodily movements. It felt like it and looked like it
moved like it actually had a weight through it. It

(31:53):
almost looked like it cracked a smile when it was
looking at me. And I remember it's saying to me,
they are more harm than help.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
It appears.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Having them call out and take you was not a
good idea, as if, like, as an adult, what I
think is the call out and to take me? Was
they whatever it was that I felt compelled, that was
them then, and that he was like I saying that
it wasn't a good idea to do that, and that

(32:25):
those little grays were terrifying, and it just it was
not a good situation. And I did learn later on
because I want to say, and I get I said,
this isn't the one time thing. This has been my
entire life since I'm a kid. This has happened all
the time. I'm thirty seven now and it hasn't stopped.

(32:47):
It's not not nearly like it used to be, but
it hasn't stopped.

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Speaker 2 (33:48):
And if you want it later in life that I
actually was taken because when they initially cooked me, I
don't really know why they initially cooked me, but there
was a more of a race to take me because
it was actually it was really something to do with
my heart, and I always guess maybe it was, and
I wondered if it was, but apparently it was something

(34:08):
to do with I guess. The only way I can
describe it is something kind of maybe similar to Travis Walton.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
But I didn't.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I there was no beaing hit me or anything like that.
Just I had a bad heart and maybe it was
too overwhelming to me. I don't know, And so this
is happening. I don't know why the process this. Remember
I'm a little kid and I'm asking where am I
I want to go home. I'm yelling and screaming. I'm
even cursing, which back then when I was a kid,

(34:39):
I was like whooping from my grandmother. She heard me curse,
and I kept asking where am I? Where am I
want to go home? I want to go home? And
it told me I was a bored his crack. He's
really returned me shortly, and that I was injured in
some way. I don't remember all the details of him
telling me that in the late around their found dude,

(35:01):
I was hurt, like my hurt. But then as a
little kid, I don't remember all the details of as
a kid being told that. And I remember it talked
to me. It was just like name, like as the
like if it wanted to know my name, and it's
not like being nice to me, and it's this very
cold and calculated kind of way of talking to someone,
and I'm just freaking out, like you're alien and freaking

(35:25):
and screaming, and my heart is beating at my chest
more and more. Again, I'm not tranquil and calm anymore,
freaking out, and it again started to feel like every
part of my body was trying to get away from me,
and I was in an intense sphere and I tried
to get up at this point and run away. And
in my head I'm yelling, run, please, God help me

(35:48):
anyone that I don't want to die. I told myself
I remember, and are plain as day. And I'm not
looking at him. I'm not I don't know if he's talking.
I don't he did have lips, but I don't know
if he socking is in my head. I think I'm
hearing it in my head though, and I hear after
I say someone helped me, I don't want to die,
I hear I did help you, and I promise you're

(36:10):
not going to die. And I was told to calm down,
and then it pressed some type of button on the
wall and I literally felt like I was drugged again,
like I was drank while I was calm and at ease,
and I'm asking, what are you doing to me?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Why am I here? What is this?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's just trying to reassure me at this point
that like, I'm not going to be hurt. I'm okay,
I'm aboard the craft. It's trying to help me, and
I'm a little kid. I don't understand any of this.
It tries to explain things to me that I have
no idea how to understand as a kid, and I

(36:47):
don't mean like, oh, it's trying to explain math to me.
It was trying to explain to me why I was taken,
what the whole purpose of this was. And I remember
I was just like, again, Frank won't coom, but I'm
old it would stimuli and freaking out and I blocked
out again and then I woke up, like literally woke
up in my bed the next day. So after that,

(37:10):
what happened was my mother was in a car accident.
It was asleep in the car when that happened. I
was actually asleep in the back heat laying down and
I should have been sitting up with my seatbelt down,
but it was the nineties.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
And a board came up a truck.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
My dad swerved and the board pinned my mom to
the to seat and went through her leg and ripped
to her pelvis and ripped her leg open, and it
was pretty traumatic for her my dad obviously. For me,
I was just like, what, what's well, it's glass and sirens.
I didn't really understand what was happening. And she was

(37:49):
in the hospital for a while, you know, and it
was really uh, you know, she lived, obviously, but it
was a very a week or so after that that
I wasn't taken. But this tall figure who I myself,
I call him a manual. This is the name I
gave him. Showed up in my bedroom. He showed up
in my bedroom. My bedroom had I don't know if

(38:12):
anyone would remember, probably would. Everyone had these old blinds
that sit in a little strip of kind of like
a very thin plastic. He showed up in the corner.
And for whatever reason, even to this day, when he
shows up, it's.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Hello, child.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's always hello, and calls me child, and I'm not
a child anymore, but maybe I'm a child to him.
It shows up and I thought I could see a
faint want of something and then I blinked, and it's there,
and it kind of running its finger down my blinds
and interacting with the blinds and peeled one of the
blinds down, and then you see the moon shining in,

(38:53):
and I remember it saying a little bit of light
won't hurt. It's talking to me, and it mentions that
my mom was in a car accident. I'm still freaking out. Obviously,
I'm a little kayd. I'm going to for each other
about this situation that happened to my mom, and then
this thing is in my room again, and that whole

(39:13):
process after that that happened, I didn't know how to
process it. I didn't tell anyone that I couldn't tell
anyone that I'm like. I just was terrified to tell
anyone in speech therapies and stuff because when I was
a little kid, my list was so bad. I could
not talk, and I had a lot of learning problems.
So I was afraid that if I did tell someone

(39:35):
and I was getting better at my speech, that I
was going to be put into the Butterscotch Palace, because
that's what the name was for the mental ward near
my town. And I was terrified of that contact. So
I didn't tell a soul and I just kind of
went on doing the same thing. I did all the
time as a kid, and this happened to my mom.

(39:55):
He shows up in my room again. I was terrified
of being taken again and seeing those little creatures again,
the little grays, And he tells me I'm not leaving,
terrifying to me that I'm closing my eyes and I'm
squeezing my fingers in and clenching the fists and squeezing

(40:15):
on my thumb.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Which is not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Gon go away, go away, go away, because I don't
want it around me.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I'm terrified.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
It says that he should have talked I'm not leaving
to going anywhere. So I opened my eyes. I'm looking
at him, and I'm about sticks feet away from him,
and I had just a normal sized bedroom. He moved
right to left, went over to the curtains, like I mentioned,
and let a little bit of light in, which fascinates people.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
To me, that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I didn't think anything of that, but the people I've
told that to, they're fascinated by the fact that it
interacted with the curtains and the light from the moon.
And I was just like, I don't know why that's fascinating,
but to me, just the room by a little lighter.
And I still to this day have a hard time
describing this. But the way he moved was almost unnatural,

(41:07):
like he moved and walked, but it was almost like
just the way he moved was almost very graceful. I'm
the flowing, He didn't float or anything like that. Just
I don't have a way to describe it. I'm trying
out saying what do you want?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
What do you need from me? Why are you here?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
And it says that my mother was in a car
accident and he's checking on me, and that my species
would call it curiosity. And he promised he was not
going to hurt me, and said I am going to
be making visits and some you will visit me and
come to me.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
And this is how it's going to work.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And I can take you from your bed at anytime,
I can take you from your parents at any time,
and I can take you from anywhere at any time
and take you to anywhere and no one can stop.
But I'm not going to hurt you or tried to
scare you unnecessarily.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And that's what I was told.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And the way it talks is just even as an adult,
I'm like as a kid, I can't wrap my head
around he because I'm like, as a kid, I was thinking,
what it is so freaking out, But as an adult
thinking back on that, I'm like, who talks like that?
It's not Shakespeare, because that's even worse. If if an
alien showed up and started talking like Shakespeare, I'd just

(42:28):
be like, I mean, it's happened out. I did enough
Shakespeare already. But this very eloquent and very articulate and
very to the point, and it's very mind boggling to
listen to someone Taco succinct. And at this point, I
don't really know what's happening with mom. I know she's

(42:49):
in the hospital and is that other thing. I'm sure
she's not gonna die, but it's really bad because like
when THEO the two by four went through her pelvis,
it basically shattered everything and there was they might have
had to amputate. It was not a good situation. But
she wasn't gonna die, but it still wasn't.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It was scary.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And he told me he's going to like that my
mother was gonna live, and that I needed to focus
on sleep and get better because when I had my
consoles and adnoids out. I also had tubes taken out
of my ears. They found out some irregularities with my
heart then, and then going through life with this happened.

(43:31):
It made sense that when I first was taken, why
it was such a rush to get everything done, Why
it was such a like whatever way I'm I'm held down,
why they wanted to get done. Was they needed to
get done because I have like the regular heartbeat and
electrical issues with my heart, So that makes sense why
maybe the electrical feeling I felt out the craft and

(43:54):
my hair raised up. What happened to me then? And
maybe not that I was taken to heal me because
they made a boo boo, But it was more like
maybe I was taken and then that just happened and
they had to forth correct what happened. So that was
another instance. That was the next That was the very

(44:14):
next thing that happened to me after my first time
I was abducted. And usually at this point I have
talked to other people and I've moved on to other
things that I've talked about, and I always kind of
I try to say what I can't, but there is
things I want I've never really got the chance to.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Talk about and I want to talk about now.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
So I don't remember exactly, but i'd say in the
age range I was twenty twenty five years old, I was.
And to put it in perspective, this started out as
something that happened maybe once a week, maybe once every
two weeks. Sometimes in a week could be two or
three times. Now it might be once or twice every

(44:56):
couple of months. So it wasn't always really really like
all the time. And I remember being taken, and this
time I was taken, I was to say it, To
put it bluntly, it's ludicrous because in my life of
what has happening to me and has happened to me
and being abducted, and people think this is crazy and

(45:18):
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
That doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I've talked to plenty of people who claim they're abducted,
who claim they've seen big pot I've done, you know,
all kinds of things. I never judged anyone for what
they says they've experienced. I've interviewed myself over one hundred
and fifty people over the course of being a little kid.
Do an adult talking to people well, whether it was
just text or get their phone number, we talk. I

(45:41):
know what it's like for people to tell a story
and feel terrified or ridiculed. I went ridic cooled myself
by the entire town made fun of me, like I
lost most of my friends. But what's ludicrous is that
I've been abducted. I've been taken from my bed. I've
seen them. They look to visit me. And it's not
just a tall alien that's about seven feet tall, who

(46:06):
has little tiny like let's say three or four little
gray aliens. Let's just say they're worker bees, you know,
the little drones, little people at work in the mailroom.
I've been abducted, and it seems to be that who
has taken me has nothing to do with whoever, this person,
this this entity that I call a manualist. It's almost

(46:27):
as if I've been taken and then I got abducted
by a different enemy or I don't know, but I
was taken. I woke up and this doesn't look like
the normal.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Craft I'm used to.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
How I like to put it, is I normally taken
by this entity I call a manual I just gave
him that name because it popped in my head. My
mom was very religious, and that's just the name I
gave him. And his craft was like beautiful in the
sense of everything seemed clean to everything seemed great, Everything
was normal in the sense of nothing was dirty. It

(47:02):
wasn't like I was looking around into a bunch of rust. Now.
But I've been taken at times where it seems like
I got abducted by this anything called a mandol that
I call got the Mercedes bend of beautif, I was
left say, and then it's like I'm taken, and I
just got abducted by someone who's driving up broken down
bus with three wheels. And that's the difference, like a

(47:24):
vast difference in what I call quality. It's not like
a soft glow everywhere. I remember, I literally just woke
up a border crack, terrified cold. It's damp, it's not wet,
but it's all kind of like a mildewy metal smell
in the air. And there's no lighting. There's no sockt
beautiful glow. There's no niceness like that. Everything seemed steel

(47:45):
and gray, like gun metal gray and very it's not
nice and.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Ugly, to put a better word on it.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
And I'm at this point pretty, you know, pretty used
to this, so to say this used one can be
with this.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So I actually look around the room and I'm like, okay,
where am I? What room is this? Where's you know,
like where's a manual?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Am I?

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
What's it happen?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Because usually if I'm taking I finally wake up and
then someone's there. And by the way I say someone,
I mean they're there. I don't mean a human and
that's a whole other thing to get into. Where I
have seen a female woman aboard the ship, and that's
a whole other topic to get into. But this craft
was very much nothing like the mangals. This was just

(48:36):
not good where I was able to see and I
got up and I walked out of the room, and
that's not something that I normally get to do or
have been able to do. And I remember I walked
out of the room. In one of the rooms I
went to had people low in like suspended in a

(48:57):
fluid inside what looked like pods. So think of like
a mechanical pod, gray metallic, and this fluid in this
room itself is very bright, and some of these people
looked odd and how I just say that is primal,
like an ancestor like it might sound crazy, but it's

(49:17):
almost like I was abducted. And I walked into a
room and there was about thirty of these tanks, and
some of the people was as if they were abducted
two thousand years ago, or you know, a thousand years
or five hundred years ago. Some of them seemed like
they were almost from like a different time period of Japan,
a baroque style of clothing, Native American. It was like

(49:40):
every race, various time periods blow in these tanks. They
didn't look dead, but they know their eyes weren't open
or anything like that. Some even seen I think it
was two of them. I believe too. It was like
they were an uncontacted tribe that had tattoos that tribe
would give themselves, and they were in a like alive

(50:00):
but almost like a lifeless condition. Like I could tell
they look like they're alive, but they weren't moving.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
They're just float this.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I wish I would have stayed in that room more
because I didn't like poke and prode and look around.
It was just very It was very strange. I don't
really tell a lot of people these parts. But another
room I went to was like you ever look at
a museum. You go into a museum and you see
the dinosaurs on display. You see dinosaur, let's just say

(50:32):
it's a t rex or whatever dinosaur. It's a display
and it's held up. Sometimes it almost looked like there's
these wires or whatever, and now the bones are in place.
Museums they'll have the bones on display and kind of
space the parts so you could kind of walk in
between them.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I've seen pictures of it.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
This looked like I walked into a room and what
was on display was people like a baby, a child,
an adult. Not to get ruesome, because I don't want to,
I'll just say this. It was like people were on display,
like we would put the dinosaur bones on display, floating
drung up with wires or something like an exhibit in pieces.

(51:14):
It wasn't a human and the arms were detached, the
legs or detached that the head was detached. I could
see inside of the body. Every pieces of the skin
were cut up. You could see different levels and the muscle.
That's what I'm talking about. It was.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
It wasn't nice.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's a way I put it, pretty gruesome experience, and
that abduction was very short. That was very It was like,
I see these two rooms, and there was another room
which was kind of like a mat with a bunch
of Plott points on it, like a bunch of dots,
and I have no clue what those dots meant, and
a bunch of them were like right across the various

(51:53):
points of the world. I'm just like, I don't know
if these are bases. I don't know what it is.
And shortly after that I rushed off and that entire
incident was over and done with. That's one of the
ones where everyone will say, oh, every UFO abduction, every
abduction is good, or every abduction is bad, and I

(52:13):
don't follow into either camp, because how I see it is,
I'm not going to impose my morality as a human
onto an advanced life form that may be good and
it may be bad. How I see it is, I
might not be able to understand where they are coming from,
I might not be able to understand what they're doing.
They might be bad, they might be they might not be.

(52:34):
But I'm not going to impose my morality or my
ability system and get very upset that I don't like
what they're doing because I can't really do anything about it.
How I look at it, But that one was one
of the ones that I went this is like the
dark side of it. There's been other things that have
happened that was dark. Talk about that opting. But I

(52:56):
feel like you're not being violated. Like I don't mean
like if you'l violated, if I had to put me
that shouldn't be put somewhere. Just feel like your entire life,
your everything. I don't have a whole lot of control
over it. Even now, Like there's ghost things that happen
in the place I live. My my wife's mother who

(53:16):
stays with us. She she's like very oh, it's so
and so they're trying to, you know, contact us. I
think it's aliens messing with me and doing things. I
have no control over it, and I just it's a
very hard thing to deal with at times because I

(53:37):
will wake up and I will remember everything that happened
to me, but I don't want to talk about it.
My wife is very believes me. She she helps me
with everything, but sometimes I don't know what to do.
Or I'll wake up and she looked at me. She knows,
she's look what happened where you're taking or because I

(53:57):
can't move, I'll be just so terrified them and Bed
I can't move. So for as laborious as it might
be to listen to me, or as hard as it
is to believe me for some people, that does not
matter to me. What matters to me is that I've
been dealing with this my whole life. I've also researched

(54:17):
the topic my whole life, and I try to stay
away from a lot of the bs of the topic
and the hard thing to deal with. So I appreciate
anyone listening, especially to someone like me, because like I've
been dealing with this for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Thank you for sharing that, Frank Kee, I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Okay, So tell us you grew up in a very
small town in Nova Scotia.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I grew up in New wather Force, Nova Scotia and
Cape Breton, so basically east coast, very tip of Cape Bretton.
And if you look my town up, New wather Ford,
it's known for coal miners, the movie newather Ford Girl
and the eight thirty Whistle. I'm pretty sure it's still
on the Wikipedia article New Waterford, where I grew up.

(55:07):
Every night at eight thirty at night, there's a air
raids sire in that place, and if anyone knows Silent Hill,
that's exactly what it is every night at eight thirty
pm since like I want to say, eighty five or
one hundred and fifteen years something like that. It's been
ongoing since forever, sometime post World War One, because it

(55:28):
originally was if a coal miner got injured, they would
have this air raids iront going. Because my town used
to be called I think it was Bearschwa Cove or
the Bearschwa. It's coal mining town. That also it's only
other industry is crab fishing. Anyone who got injured, they
played the eight thirty whistle, and then it turned into

(55:49):
on the coast of my town there's a new water
ford and then maybe about ten minutes by Carraway, there's
a section that has a fortress that was active during
war World War two that would spot look for German
U boat and eat in the ocean, so they also
used it for that, and then it just turned into

(56:09):
this is the curfew. And everyone I grew up with,
if the a thirty whistle went up and you weren't
at home or you weren't running home, your parents were
gonna be human.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Wow, that's unusual, wasn't it. When you say Silent Hill
you think of like.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Just missed everywhere, your spooky missed.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, it was when it would get misty, like that
foggy in town and the thirty whistle will go up,
I'd be like, oh, this is creepy.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
And I love Silent Hill, but yeah, be cleepy.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So yeah, I'm from Payper and Newadford, Nova Shotia's people
call it, and I moved out to where I am
currently live with my wife, and I am kind of
about two hours away from Halifax in Nova Scotia. I'm
not going to say the exact you know, I mean
because I like where I live, because I just like.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
My privacy understandable. So predominantly most of your experiences with
them happened in New Waterford.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, mind, I lived there until about two and a
half years ago, roughly quit smoking a little over two
years ago, and then I moved up here.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
And what about the place you are now? Has these
experiences carried on?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Have they got less? Have they got more?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
So they've gotten less, But it's not because of where
I live they've gotten less, just over time. I mentioned
briefly that it used to be like once or twice
a week, or a couple times a week or so on,
and then as I got older kind of got less
and less, and then every now and then it might
be I might not have an experience for two or
three months, and then I might have four or five

(57:40):
experiences in one week and then not have any for
a couple of months. So it kind of sporadic right now,
Like the last time it happened was probably three and
a half four and a half weeks ago, So it
happened up here, it's just not as much. But I
think it's more about my age.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Maybe I don't know what the experiences when you had
taken the day always follow the same path, when the
experiences of being on this rickety craft unusual human zoo,
the best way I could describe it, Did they vary
in what you experienced on those later encounters.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
No, it wasn't always the same, Like whether I was
a kid, whether I was an adult, it wasn't always
the same.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
By and large.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
More so, it was always the same kind of when
I was younger, but in my twenties on and even
a little bit before my twenties. Maybe when I was
like sixteen seventeen and on. It was more like, oh,
I'd wake up, I'm already taken, or I'd wake up
and I always have a tell I get to know
this just in the left ear, and it's a way

(58:42):
more high pitched, and my head will burn on just
the left side with it. And sometimes I will be
like I said, I'll just be taken. Or sometimes I'll
wake up and I'm already on the craft. Sometimes I'm
in the middle. Look at nighttime in my room now,
or like am I twenties and I'd just be doing whatever,

(59:03):
and then I'd hear the tonis and all of a
sudden everything would get dead calm, and they could, you know,
one or two of them walk in the room, or
I'd blink and there in front of me. So it
wasn't always they'd show up and taken. I'm gone, I'm
on the craft. It's this, It's always the same. It
was never always the same, stimilar, but different enough that

(59:23):
it wasn't the same.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
And were they mostly medical related or something to do
with your body?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Most of it was, Yeah, it was like like I
talked about like a sixth I got older, it was
mostly medical things that was mostly like random dams, or
I'd be taken and I'd be showing images of things,
or the only way I can describe it, you know,
it was like I was getting downloads in my brain
seeing images, or like I was experience and memories that

(59:50):
weren't mine.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Or I'd be taken and I'd be.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
On the craft looking down and the floor of the
craft would be transparent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
They'd be showing me things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Whether that was like, oh, this is your can and
this is what it looked like from above, ask me
like how long do I think I've been done for
like two hours a minute questions or asking me literally
asking me questions like how my school's going, or like
is there anything I'm interesting? It felt like at some point,
if it wasn't medical type things, it felt like I

(01:00:24):
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Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
And collectively in all these experiences, it was always the
same type of beings that you would witness.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, basically, it was always, how I put it this way,
it was always the really tall one, the manual or
these little what I call the little workers, almost like
male room workers. It was always that group, or as
I said, seemed like a more rinky dinky type of
maybe completely separate group would take me. But it wasn't

(01:01:37):
always just him or just the little ones with him.
It was also just like kind of seemed like another group.
I don't know, maybe they're separate, maybe they're not. But
it was always him or one or two. It was
never like four or five showed up in my.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
Room and the tall one you saw in the doorway
with the soft male voice, was that the same one
that was messing with you blinds.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It was that seems to be the one that, as
I call say, initiated first contact. Seems to be the
one that, for no other exclanation, I have no other exclanation,
seems to be nice, seems to care about me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
And anytime I was taken, through being a kid up
until at least seventeen eighteen, he was always there. There
was never a time when he wasn't there. And if
he wasn't there, there was someone else present. And I
kind of vaguely mentioned that there was. There was times
where when I was taken it was like a human
female was there, but he was always there, and if

(01:02:40):
he wasn't that woman was there. But yes, it was
him that I saw my bedroom went to blind. That
was him the initial time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
And the human female was she part of the setup
or had she been taken as well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
This human female, one hundred percent was not taken. She
definitely was part of the set up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
She was perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
She was literally you looked at her and went, that
is the perfect human female. She stereotypical, which I now
know as an adult, seems to be. It would be
what everyone would call it Nordic. I'm not saying it is,
but that's what everyone would call it. And that was
more so when I was a little kid up until
rape before I became an adult, like eighteen years old,

(01:03:21):
and it seemed like for the most the vast majority
of my childhood. I was taken and get some medical tests,
and they take some blood, or they checked my eyes,
take some saliva, hair, skin cells, and they'd asked me questions.
They would whizz me almost like they were seeing how
intelligent I was, seeing if I could do things.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
That's sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Or one time they made me wear something similar to
if you ever seen anyone get a brain skin and
they have like a cap on with all those like
electrode or whatever on the cap It was something similar
to that. It was like I was being tested and
asked if I could move the objects front of me.
Is what I was being asked with my mind, which

(01:04:03):
I could could not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
The Nordic female, how did she treat you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That was literally very I don't want to sound road
or into my own mother, but this Nordic female, as
whether we'll call her, she treats me better than my
own mother.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Okay, do you remember what she used to wear?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, she wore very not always, but she wore a
very like a scientific looking no fit. It wasn't like
a white lab coat and glasses, but I was looking
kind of at like a librarian. He'd have like a
brown top on blue looking normal gene. She dressed like
a human, one hundred percent like a human that was
usually for the most part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
And would she speak to you, Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
When she spoke to me, it was I could see
the lips movement. I'm not going to say she spoke
to me in my brain in my mind, because I
don't know, and I'm not going to say that she
didn't speak to me in my mind, but it seemed
like it was just vis a vis.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
She was talking to me with her actual mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
But I got an inclination that she would talk to me,
it would be normal, and if I thought something, she
would answer to my thought. So I realized she could
read my mind or head maybe an intuition to what
I was going to say or think.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Okay, And you saw this individual several times of the
course of many years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Yes, I can't say it was like fifty or one
hundred times, but between ages like sixty seven to seventeen, eighteen,
twenty times, fifteen times.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Several times in and did she ever appear to change
any aspect of herself?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
No, no agent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
She from the day I was a little kid to
the last time I saw her. She looked the exact tame.
Even her clothes looked the exact tame, as if they
never the closed themselves, never had any wear and tear.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
And a lot of these these experiences are medically related.
Do you remember after set experiences any like unusual marks
or bruises or anything like that afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, There's been plenty of times as a kid or
as an adult, I'd wake up I have a trial
and gold mar on me, or I have like an
inprint or something I might think is a bladmash and
I'm like, oh, well, I have a raised bomb. My
wife and I make a joke that I always say,
I'm not being serious when I say this to people.
It's my way of dealing with this is I jokingly

(01:06:17):
say I have an implant, because not to make light
of anyone who says they do. I've had something on
the side of my leg since I'm a little kid
that a doctor told me it was collagen, but no
one would no doctor would ever take an X ray out,
And it feels like a perfect circular little circle basically
the side of like a little baby that's there. And

(01:06:39):
if I try to touch it and squeeze it and
moves away. I don't know anything else about it other
than it kind of feels like it moves away and
it burns. And I have plenty of times where I
wake up and I have like marks on me. I'm like,
how do I have a mark on the back of
my back in the same place where it was like
I had a bunch of needles put in during the experience. Though, Yeah,

(01:07:00):
I've had times plenty of times where I've had bruises
or cuts or things like that happened to me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
And after every experience, it would always be a case
of you just directly straight in your bed or is
there anything that does happen differently?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
No, it's not always saying sometimes I'm in my bed,
I came back and I've been in the middle of
my living rooms standing up literally.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
And the weird thing is if I'm in my bed or.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
If I've been in my living room, I've woken up
outside when it first started happening. How I describe it
is this It's like they were taking me and whoever
was doing the whole aspect of it, and then looked
at I blackout and they got to put me back.
It's like they didn't know for a very long time
had to put clothes on because my t shirts would

(01:07:48):
be on backwards or my pants would be on backwards.
And as I got older, that seemed to not happen,
So it wasn't always woken up in my bed and
my clothes would be on wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Okay, And when these experiences would happen, would you ever
ever have a feeling that they were going to happen?
Or is there any any particular pattern to times, dates,
times where you were alone or in a certain location.
Is there anything that happened that you could see patterns in?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Well, what patterns and all that? Well, I will say
it's this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I not guarantee, but I know almost for a guarantee
when something's gonna happen to me, because like I said,
I'll get a tonight this and then tonight this is
like nothing like any other tonightis, and I'll get a
burning sensation on the side of my head. I don't
think I'm using the right word here, but I know
it as an ice pic headache, like when you're get
a very quick shirt like stab and headache and the

(01:08:44):
side of your head or your temp or whatever that
like might last for a second or two. It's like that,
but then it dissipates out and it's very hot on
my head and then in my face. And this is
a very certain way, and that will always happen. I'll
also get a weird way to say this, but it's
I'll like, I'll get that or whether it is with

(01:09:05):
it or isn't it with it, I'll get a sensation
like almost like a googsbumps up my spine and high strangeness.
Things will happen and lead up. I'll say to my wife,
like something to happen. I know I'm gonna be like
I'm gonna be taken or I'm gonna be visited, or
I'm gonna look out my window and I'm gonna see
something something weird, like that's gonna happen because I charge

(01:09:26):
my phone and I got a brand new phone like
a and I charge my phone and then literally within seconds,
it's dead, my laptop dead, my batteries and my Xbox
controller dead, my Xbox turned top, my TV will turn off.
Weird things like that or things that people stay it's ghosts,
and I don't think it's ghosts. Maybe it is, but

(01:09:47):
I think it's them either showing me they can interact
and do whatever they want or giving me a hey,
we're around and whatever that's supposed to mean. Like, I've
had stereotypical ghost things happen, you name it. So there's
always seems to be a feeling, a sensation, and the

(01:10:08):
tonight this and I know, I just I know when
something going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
So physical and electrical. Yeah, okay, it was. It's the left.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Side, left ear, left ear, and left side of the
face and head. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
What about your sleep patterns? Have you always been a
good sleeper?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
No. When I was a kid before this, yes, and
and I had like I didn't have nightmares. I didn't
watch anything scary as a kid. I wasn't like, oh
I was watching the X Files or watching horror movies
or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I had great sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
This stuff started happening, and then it was explanation for
it that my my family always has is oh, I
just took after my dad, who slept bad. But I
used to sleep great. I never had a problem sleep,
and then this stuff started happening. And my sleep habits
are basically I might get four hours a night and
then I'll have a little nap later on. If I'm lucky,

(01:11:01):
and usually I don't sleep. Like my wife going to
sleep at night and everyone's in the house.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Is sleep, and I help you up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I'd be up until twelve, one o'clock, two o'clock, or
I'm up. She hits up at five am gonna work
and I'm still up because I have been able to sleep.
I go through these motions up where I will get
the almost near perfect amount of sleep, and I've gotten
stuff bad sleep, like the four or five hours my
whole life now, and I sleep like full eight hours.

(01:11:30):
I feel sick, doesn't feel good. So my sleep is very,
very not that not good. And I'm also just terrified
at nighttimes sometimes like there's noises I hear or things
I feel and I go, that's them. And on the
other end of it, the way I cope with all

(01:11:51):
of this is I started to like horror and like,
you know, like horror movies and got into that stuff,
and it was a way for me to not be
so scared of what would happen into me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
And what about your wife? Your wife ever experienced anything
some of the things that you've gone through.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
She never had any sit in or anything like that
ever in her whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
She met me, she saw something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
She used to come down and drive down to see me,
and it was like she'd come to see me, drive down,
and that's how we were together for.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Shortly after I told her about all of this, and she,
you know, she was okay with it, and she didn't
freak out, and she was very understanding. She saw something
that with everything that has happened to me and how
I look into everything, I'm very like analytical when it
comes to this. Someone will say, oh, I've seen a
uf phone. Look okay, where give me the data long dude, latitude.
I'll go check satellite. I'll go check for airplanes. Like

(01:12:46):
I checked everything. I got a buddy who's an air
traffic controller. I'll last came every now and then if
you can look at anything for me, and ninety nine
times in the one hundred, I can explane away something.
She saw something that I couldn't explain away. She's also
had experiences where she's seen things. She's she works for
Vo Invatorian Order of Nurses. She's a continuing carriageing and

(01:13:08):
she drives from the house to house and she'll work
two in the afternoon to ten at night and then
she switches over after a rotation to seven am to
three pm. And one of her nights she saw she
was saw an actual like gray in the bushes outside,

(01:13:30):
almost like someone was watching her, and it terrified her.
She's had experiences in the house with like kind of
like the ghost like activity or hearing things or hearing
sounds that I know what it is, but she's never
seen like meaving and taken or anything like that. She's

(01:13:50):
woken up and I'm not in bed. She can't find me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
When that happens. What does she do? Does she go
back to sleep or does she tend to look for you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
She's got up and looked for me, and usually how
it pans out, it's always been, she gets out up
and look for me, and she looked everywhere. And then
when she finally say comes back to the bedroom or
goes back to the washroom, I'm somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
She's already looked.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
Did you ever tach your parents about any of these
things that were happening to yet?

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Not my dad, my dad, I've never told my dad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
My dad heard this, He would tell me a crazy
crack pod who needs to be on medication. My mother,
I never told her. I told my parents about the
Ufo Sitan I had at thirteen, but I've been abducted
and these things have been happening. But I was only
comfortable about the Ufo Sitan, which was terrifying of itself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
It was very strange.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
And when I told my dad that he'd laughed at me,
my sister giggled. My mom didn't laugh. My mom took
it seriously, and I later found out that my mom
and dad had a own kind of experience where they
saw something and had a little bit of missing time.
And my dad will not talk about it. He gets
very upset and very like leaving it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Don't talk about this. That's how he is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
But my mom told me all about That's very My
mom died in twenty twenty one the pancreatic cancer, and
my mother told me on her deathbed that she could
see him. I never told her abo anything like that
that happened to me, never mentioned an abductor, never wrote
it down. The one person ever told was two friends.
One never opened his mouth about it and one friend

(01:15:30):
told everyone. But I never told my mom about that stuff.
She never heard about it. Did my dad, and my
mom told me on her deathbed, she could see him
in reference to Emmanuel, and that she knew I was
being taken. And in her words, it was that she
knew I was wasn't abducted. She just said she knew

(01:15:51):
I was coming and going. That's how she put it,
and that when she was a little girl, it happened
to her and she was able to reconcile it and
process it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
We're never going to talk with it, and that's how
that was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
I don't know, worry, I understand. I'm sorry that you
lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I appreciate that it was a hard time because, as
I told my wife, I take my mom to the hospital.
I'd go with her dollar her visits. My dad wouldn't
be able to. He was a coal miner in our
town who got injured. The mind collapsed on him. And
there's lucky he's alive. It's lucky he can walk. He
is missing a portion of its spine in the lumbar
section from that acting, and there should be no way

(01:16:31):
he's able to move. So I was doing a lot
of that, going to get to the drug door for
my mother and my father.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I did all that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Everything that has helped take care of my mom and
I put my life on hold, and then my mom died.
Then I had to take care of my dad. And
then I got out and I moved out here with
my wife, and the first time in my life I've
been on my own. I like it, and nothing against
my parents.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
There was just that whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
And when my mom died, she was young, she was
fifty three. She basically was like, I knew you've been
coming and going. I can see him. I was taken
and I wasn't able to reconcile with it. I wasn't
able to deal with it. I struggled with it, and
I learned as I got older more aspects of my
abduction had to do with my mother's abduction. Whoever it

(01:17:15):
was that was taking her showed themselves as angels to
my mother, so she was able to handle it because
she was a Catholic woman, but it wasn't angels. And
then I had a moment working where collaps that work
had a heart attack. I had i'll call like a
near death experience. That was a really wild time for me,
especially like I talked to my mother and all this stuff,

(01:17:37):
and it was incredibly beautiful and it was emotional, and
I wish I could talk to my dad about this topic.
We talked about UFO, so he knows I'm interested. He
knows I've been researching this my whole life. But if
I talked to my dad about being abducted, he will
literally just say, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Don't bring this up ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
So I don't even bother to have this conversation with
him because he's older and he's in a like a
nurse at home.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Now I understand it, But I was going to say,
a small coastal town like New Waterford. Oh, I guess
you would have either been a miner or a fisherman.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Yeah, and you coal miner. My grandfather was a coal miner. Two.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
I'm guessing that they would have been closed down by
the time you would have reached maturity.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Yeah, the last mine closed in New Waterford by the
time I was in like Great Primary or Great One.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
And I remember the whole Great one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Two and three years of my life where everyone I knew,
all my friends, everyone's dad had no work anymore because
the coal mine shut down. And when the coal mine
shut down, all the people in Sydney, their parents had
no work because the steel plant shut down and the
steel plant in Sydney was making coke with the co covens,
so that entire industry ran by with the coal mines

(01:18:46):
with Debtho shut down the steel plants and the coal
mines all at once, and Nwarleborg went from like end
of fourteen thousand people too. There might be five thousand there,
but all year long there's only about fit fifteen hundred
and arrest work at Weston, like Alberta and Edmonton for
the seventy percent of the year to make money.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
It's very soon to what happened in the UK when
the industry and the factories closing down still works the
minds or that very similar.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
So now you've moved.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
Away, you live in somewhere different, you're happy, much quiet place.
So it's like a new chapter in your life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, and this stuff still happens, sadly, but yeah, definitely
a new chapter.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Great stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
And how do you feel about these experiences? Are you
happy they happened? Are you kind of like, well, there's
not much I can do about it, you know, there's
no way I could have stopped it. How do you
feel like experiences over the time?

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
How I like to say, is this a lot of
people say it's all bad or it's all good, and
I say it can be all bad, it can be
all good. And like I said earlier, I don't like
to push my morality or how I as a human being,
how we as human beings are on another species that
is way more advanced than us, and I take it

(01:19:58):
as I can't do nothing about it. I can't stop it.
There has been hard things that have happened and bad
things that have happened to me. For the most part,
it's been incredible. I've seen things that I don't even
know what I was smoking at. I've seen things that
are just crazy exparience, things that are wild, learn things.
I can't say it's a positive experience, but it definitely

(01:20:20):
wasn't all negative. It's been eye opening and it's definitely
not something I would anyone else to go through. And
it's not something I wish I have ever gone through.
And if I could change it again from being a
little kid, I would say I still would want it
to happen. I would want to make sure it didn't
happen to some other little kid. That's basically my answer

(01:20:41):
on that, even if it's not that great of an answer.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
No, it's your answer is fine, good stuff, Frankie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Frankie, I really appreciate you coming on sharing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
That for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Yeah, no, no problem. I appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
It has been wonderful to meet you. Okay, take care
of yourself and we will speak soon. Likewise, bye, back
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to me via the contact page on my website ufo
Chronicles podcast dot com. A big fang it of Frankie
for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I
will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and
keep watching the Skies.

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