Alien Intervention: Are We Being Farmed or Guided? | Christopher Macklin - UFOs and Aliens

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Christopher Macklin. Christopher, Welcome to the truth Taker podcast. Brother,
How are you?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
How wonderful? Thanks truth to having me it's wonderful to
be a bless your heart, and you do amazing work.
So I'd like to thank you for all the word
you do because it's important. You know, people don't realize
the amount of work behind the scenes and everything else
is involved with putting these things together, and the staff
involved and everything else. Yeah, thank you so much, blessure hut, thank.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
You, thank you for saying that. And yeah, I got
to thank my team too. We're building the team here,
beautiful people who are helping as well taking some of
the load off of me so I can pay attention
to the conversation and i'd be clicking and moving windows
in the background. So for sure, thanks Christopher. To tell
you how I found out about your work, I recently

(05:03):
found out about you. Didn't know who you were, and
you've got a large body of work. My wife was
looking up guessed that she thought would be would would
make a good interview to the podcast, and so she
found your work. I'd never heard of you, She's like, yeah,
I've been talking to the Christopher Macklin's people. I've never
heard of them. But as soon as we booked it,

(05:24):
I started seeing your stuff everywhere. All of my friends
have had you on their podcast and then you're healing
work that you're doing. I was like, wow, now that
we've booked it, now I'm seeing the meme of the
synchronicities of this man's work everywhere. So that was awesome.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Well, they always divine your lines, you know. It's funny.
When I first started this ministry, you know, I'll just
give you a little story.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I for Mabel.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
You know, they say build it will come, So open
the office. Where is everybody? Nothing's happening. I've got lasted
for about three months and I got fed up and said,
you know, and I'm not a you know, I don't
believe religion. I believe what God many paths, and I
define God as God. God has prime crazivil So I said, okay,
do you go on what's going on?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
You know?

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Where are they? I said, well, it's in here, take
it out where? Oh okay. You know, as soon as
a went out, bang, it's really started. It was amazing.
So you know, I think people just think you should
sit there when doors open. So many doors open, you've
got to step through those doors, and you know, and
it just evolves. You know, it's just incredible.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, it seems like one thing happens at a time
and it kind of builds your faith, like you try
it and wow that worked. You try something else, Wow
that works. You read this book, Oh that works too,
And then you get the whole arsenal of beautiful spiritual
techniques and modalities, and now you have friends in high
places that are here to help. And eventually you just

(06:45):
have all of this stuff that you're that you're lucid
of around you that can assist in whatever it is
that the Creator has for you to do here on
the earth.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Absolutely, and that's so important, you know it's important, And
I think gratitude comes with that. You know, the ministry
is very as you work on about eighty thousand people
a week. If you have a look at the numbers,
Who cares about the numbers? You know, people come on
if they need it, they don't if they don't. But
I think you know, one of your key instruments is
just being. And you know, to me, gratitude is a
way of life. It's almost it goes hand in hand

(07:16):
for my perception with surrender. So you surrender, you know
God's got your back. You don't have to worry about sales.
You don't have to worry about anything. All you have to
do is just do the work and everything else just
lines up. Like you say, it's amazing. It makes me
smile every day, actually every day.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
It's hard to stay in Yeah, Like, honestly that is truth.
As long as I just don't worry about it, it works.
But the moment I'm like fretting and trying to move
things around.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Good luck, It's very true. Actually, surrender. You know, I
talked about people about surrender all the time, and surrender
is a way of life again, knowing God's got your back.
Don't worry about all this stuff, you know. I mean,
the world's in a mess at the moment, but don't
worry about it. You know, you've got to, to me,
you've got to get in a you've got to get
in a high vibracial bubble with people around you love you,

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who don't shame you. You know, and I've had people
shaving the past. You know, my father shamed me. And
you know, so I set boundaries. You know we're not
you know, I love you, but over there, you know,
you stay over there, and you know the people who
are really close to you can come in and you know,
you're safe with them, and that's that's key, I think.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, listen, we're going to talk about UFOs, aliens, angels,
the melches at X, the Unseen Round. We're going to
talk about all of that. But first, for those people
in the audience who don't know who you are, what
you bring to the table. You just mentioned your healing
sessions that you do three times a week, just kind
of give an overview of who Christopher Macklin is and
what you bring to the table.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
We'll start there. Well, as born as will killed that being.
I've got about eighty four percent we killed that DNA.
You've got to have some Humdiana to make you, you know.
But the new cares who you are. The factors is
what you do. So I was gifted from the age
of four, saw Graptolian creatures, saw different things happening, saw
you know, flying sauce in the sky and head look
at that, you know, and oh no, it's just a

(09:00):
you know, you just make it up, you know, it's
it's it's your imagination, but it's there, you know. I'll
learned very quickly to manage this. And I think I
went through life when in a corporate place I wasn't
meant to actually do my work till later on in life.
And there's reasons for that, which we can talk about
in a minute. Anyway, you know, two thousand and seven

(09:20):
I went completely bankrupt. I was built a lot of
apartments in Manchester and God said, you know what, I'm
going to change your life like right now. Within forty
days and everything went bankrupt. You know where I lost
millions and millions of pounds. Who cares? I had a Bentley.
I was so embarrassed because I had a Bently. I
couldn't even to put gas into sitting there and oh
you know, and it really taught me a lesson like

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stuff doesn't matter. Marriage collapsed, everything clapsed them and what
a wonderful gift. You know the time, you don't think
it is like, you know, okay, God, this is not funny.
I had too literally two Walmart bags with a couple
of shirts, and well, I've worked for twenty one years
and I've got nothing. But what I didn't realize is
I had everything. And you know, the journeys started there.
I went all over the world, you know, to India

(10:02):
and all over Europe doing healings, been to Australia and
you know, started learning the gifts. But one thing I
would point out to people if I may, that gifts
are your gifts, you know, and your stars. If you're started,
you put down here because there's a free will element

(10:23):
in this third dimensional world and so unless you ask
for help down here, nothing's good happen. And people have said, well,
well the heck is God ring now? And the answer is, well,
have you asked him to come down and do something?
You know, whether it's the mckills, that Beings, Zactorians, Palladians, Atlantarians,
Lumerians Andromedin's, whatever faction it is, they're all whollier to help.
So if you if that's your starsy family, your job

(10:46):
is to you know, get them from the ethers and
bring them down here and hey, guys, we've got to
do some work down here. And that's the whole point.
So it gets over the third dimensional God can't get
involved without a request down here, so that's really important.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, well, since you mentioned it, let's talk about it
a little bit because I love to hear the origin stories,
like where did this start for you? Because I think
a lot of listeners are having synchronicities, they are seeing
lights in the sky, they are having prayers answered, and
so they know that there's a realm that exists between
the worlds and even beings that travel back and forth

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galactically from heaven to Earth, as we would call it.
Where did this stuff start for you? When you begin
to be approached by beings or know that you're not alone,
or know that you're being watched over. What were some
of the first things that started happening for you?

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Well, it was the biggest thing at the age of
four was I had a big old annarchy reptilion in
my room. And the things are about ten foot six twalllves.
Some of them they very in size, it'd be over
twelve four to or they could be smaller, depend on
their age. And the thing was in the corner here
and I could see it clearly, and I have this
really dark like whoa feeling, And of course the age
of four, god do's a reptilian. Of course, the follow

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guns up. You know, where is it?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now?

Speaker 6 (11:59):
That's not it's just imagination. But it was there, and
I learned to manage it, and I realized, you know,
with seeing things in the sky like craft, you know,
you can see interdimensional craft. A lot of people look
and because they can switch dimension, so where is it?
I can't see it? And it made me realize that
I've got a gift that other people aren't seeing. And
so I learned to manage it, even at the age
of four, you know, and then obviously went through lives,

(12:22):
kept seeing things, but kind of focused on and then
you know, when I went bankrupt. It was really interesting
because I used to meditate four to six hours a
day for quite a while, some like two or three years,
four years, and they were teaching me the cause and
effect of different elements of sickness, and you know, and
I was like, wow, Wow, that's amazing. And you know

(12:42):
when I saw the cause and effect, because one thing
you can't do is you can't heal something if you
don't understand how it works. And that goes with everything
you know, from cancers to you know, cystified gross too.
I don't know ms, Parkinson's, al zeimers, all these things.
You know, you got to understand, well, they're there. Something
happened to the body that you've got this condition, and

(13:03):
if you understand how it works, you can get rid
of the primary secondary cause and then heal the actual
the symptom itself, because all these things are just a
symptom of something going on in the body. So yeah,
absolutely you've got to get to the root of it.
And most of the cause of sickness is emotion. It
starts with emotion. You know, people think they're working on
emotions for all all these years. You know, I remember

(13:26):
seventy old lady, she says, Oh my god, I'm so
glad I met you. I thought I've been working on
my emotions. But clearly there's a lot there. But you know,
the sad thing is about it. In this world, we're
ingesting over probably one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand
layers of emotion, and I aren't way too much for
a human being, so you know, it takes a lot.
We have a fast trap method of the mckill's dep

(13:46):
beans going and pulling those layers out, so they can
pull that eighty one, one hundred and sixty two three
twenty four. We can even go higher, but you have
to get used to that level of you know, release
before you can go on to the next level. But
it's a good way of you know, getting I mean,
you know, me as a facilitator. I'm just a facilitator
to help people get to their sovereign self, get back

(14:08):
to their gifts. Like you know, your gift is music,
and you know you do podcasts. My gift is healing.
You know, I use all sorts of different techniques shown
by the because that beings. Other people have got art,
other people got sculpturing. Whatever your gift is, it's all healing.
You know, it might be you know, because it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
What is it about? Many people's introduction to the light
is utter darkness failure, meaning low level beings. Like wouldn't
it been cool if it was a melchesec that actually
appeared to your first and it was like a transition.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, then you then you being fuzzy like, oh my god,
it's incredible, But but it's not And you're right, you know.
I think what happens is, you know, there's a spiritual
battle going on here, dark versus Like most of the Actilian
elements here are manipula and dark, and so like Annarcha Draconians.
Draconians are really dark. You've got luciferiones attached Vatican, You've

(15:06):
got you've got first and second dimensional state being. You know,
you name it, they're there. You've got archons. They float
through dimensions, they have no body, and what they try
and do is attach to you. And when they attach
to you, of course, if your vibration drops, and always
tell people is they can attach to you if you don't,
if you don't protect yourself when you first start healing,
because your vibrations precarious. And of course if you depress,

(15:29):
you know, as soon as you find out, oh my god,
as the world is bad and oh just wait, you're
going to realize it's way worse, you know, and you
go down the rabbit hole, and people go through stages
of involvement, of understanding, even people who realize, yeah, the governments.
Sometimes it catches up with you and you know, you
bull your eyes out that you know for days, just
you know, feeling sad for humanity. It can't be this bad,

(15:51):
and it is. You know, everything's manipulated, water, air, you know,
TV programs, you know, it's got lucifer and symbology all
over the place. It's got to you know, the governmental system, religion, everything,
you know, everything's hijacked. So you know it's time to
take a step back, and you know, digest it, you know,

(16:11):
probably heal it because you have to release the emotion
around it. And then then once you understand you all right,
you become a warrior. And my you know, my job
here is to get people into that warrior state, you know,
where they feel really amazing, where they're leaping out of
bed in the morning. Oh my god, I feel incredible,
and you know, they feel like a warrior. Nothing's going
to touch me. I'm going to get out there and
do my bit for humanity and you know, service to others,

(16:33):
not service to self.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
As I said so in hindsight right after the attack
and being able to see those dark entities something that
was scary at the time and you're begging to get
out of it and you're kind of plagued by it.
Do you now see it on this side of it
now that you're able to look back at it as
a blessing? And like, are you glad that you encountered
that at such a young age?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Oh yeah, I think you know. To me, honestly, truth,
I've looked at everything in my life, the craziest things happened,
and they're all a blessing. It doesn't matter how bad
it is. It's always a blessing because it teaches you
so much. And I look at them now, we removing
from people's bodies every day, and the thing is about it.
They can't touch me because my vibrations got way way high,
you know, and I'm you know, I'm in that warrior state.

(17:16):
I let's remove them and I use portaling systems. I
use them kills that beings. They do psychic surgery. They're
removing some people and it's just amazing. But you know,
I look, I'll look back. We don't want to be
selling homeless again, living out the car and all this
sort of thing. Probably not. You know, I've had the experience.
I loved it, but don't want to get there again.

(17:36):
You know, we're done with that, you know, twenty one days,
you know, seven days whatever with that food. Don't want
to go there again. No, But it wasn't education at
the time. I was in Belize and I went without
food for twenty one days and I was getting really weak.
You know, I had water, but no food, and I
was getting kind of exhausted. And you know, wonder, I said, Okay, God,
this is not funny. I command that I have food

(17:58):
right now, right now, because I deserve it, and I
thank you God send you my own conditional love, so
be it. But then within fifteen minutes, the most dodgy
person and believe you know, he's looking around and never
gives anything away, nothing, and he came up to me
and goes, oh, it's fifty Bullize dollars, which is about
fifteen US dollars, and that gave me food for the
next two weeks, you know. So you know, again, if

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you learn manifestation, if you really believe it and don't
even think about how it were, it's going to come.
It'll just come from any of them.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
It's incredible.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, that's that's a faith builder like we have that.
It is the first time you're like, hey, let me
try this again, and then it happened, and then you're like,
hold on, let me try it for my friend, let
me teach people. And you understand that hold on, there's
something greater is going on here.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Absolutely, And you know it's like with the ministry. The
ministry does very well. It's always got enough, you know,
it pays. We have over ten staff, you know, doing things.
You know, as you know you've spoke to the pr
lady and you know, it just keeps going, you know,
and I never will What one thing I worry about
when I set this ministry up, I did the deal
with Okay, look, I don't like accounts. I'm not interested

(19:06):
in counting money because I'm not interested money at all.
I don't want to do sales. I don't want to
do it. I just want to do the healing. Now.
You know, I've seen a lot of people get so
frustrated because they'll they'll set a business on and try
and get the you know, oh I can't get the
website or can't get the computer going. Oh my goodness,
you know, how do you need accounts? And what you
need to do is let go of all that. You know,
we pay thousands, you know, like the account we paid

(19:29):
fifteen or sixteen thousand dollars a year and people say
that stupid you keep it. Well, it's either I stop
this healing today and go and count beans, or I
do the healings and just pay them, and then I'm
in my space and the accountant so I don't know why,
but they're in their space because they love counting beans.
And everyone's getting fed.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
That's the thing. Move the energy out don't hang onto
it yourself, because if you hang on to yourself, you'll
block the whole thing. There's always a balance, you know,
moving energy, which is money is just energy, and moving
in and out and making sure other people benefit as well.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
That's so good. That's so good, And I think it's
a part of getting clear, getting clear on your vision. Like, hey,
I want to do healing. I want to focus on this.
I want to be able to do interviews and connect
with people. I don't want to count money. I don't
want to proselytize and knock on doors and things like that.
Like there's other people that, hey, we we need marketing.
There's a person who loves to do it kind of thing,

(20:24):
you know, and manning social media and and those kind
of things. And finding those people and building that team
can be hard. Was this something out of the gate
or is this like one at a time you just
found those people who showed up in your life.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
It's funny because you know it went through a Journey's
probably the well, it's not a problem. The amazing thing
about the ministry, let's rephrase that, because it's is that,
you know, I keep a very high vibrational place, so
I've had people have come a word, And the problem
is when you hold a high vibrational energy, you know,
in this ministry, it brings all people's stuff up, all
their emotions and things, and so if they're not the

(21:00):
right personal they start projected on you. Well yeah, you know,
and then oh, well I love you, bye bye, and
you know, now we've got a great team, but it
takes sometimes a little bit to get the right people.
You've got to get really involved people who get it,
because if not, if you've got somebody who's got so
much emotion, you know, it's going to start coming up
for them and you're going to get reactions and they're
going to project their stuff on you. And so it

(21:22):
has been a journey. Believe in me, it's been a journey.
But we've got great staff. Now that's awesome. It all
works out for the greater good. So you shared the
story about dealing with the reptilian being at first, and
then you talked about working with the MALCHZDX, like, what
was the first encounter with the malchazid X knowing that
they were here to help and send healing and work

(21:42):
with you. Well, they're my starsy family, So I was
meditating every day. And you know, one of the things
you learn is if you're a starsy, which most people are.
You know, most of your you know, people who watch
your podcasts and things are star seas.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
And one of the biggest things about recognize your art
is well, I hear every day I don't fit in
this world. Well you don't. This is not your planet,
you know, this is not your people. So what you
need to do is learn to navigate it without stepping
into that matrix. You need to be on the preofery.
I always give the analogy like human graces in a
swimming pool. They're poohing and weeing. Would you want to

(22:18):
dive in that swimming pool? No, I don't think so,
So let's stay out of it. Let's stay on the side,
help pluck people out of that pooh and we wash
them down, dry them off, get them in a high
vibrational place. And you know, it's important to down the proffery.
Like like I said before, it's important to get into
your beautiful place with great people. You know, you'll find
that as you evolve, you'll lose friends like the bucket

(22:40):
load and friends you thought were there forever just fall
away because well you're not reacting and you're not you know,
buying into my I call it blah blah blah, you know.
And so you know, probably and I have one or
two friends, but those friends will be so solid and
just stay within them, you know, look for great things
in the day, and you know, do cooking. I find
it very dilt because of my gifts. If I go

(23:01):
out to a restaurant and the chef is like all
mad because you know, whether it's a lady or a gentleman,
they had a round with their husband and wife the
night before, and you know, they cook the food. I
can smell the energy on it, and it spells like,
oh this spell is awful. Now for the average person,
Oh yeah, it's a really nice dinner, but I can't
eat it. So I've learned to, you know, kind of

(23:23):
try and cook her own food, mostly in house, you know,
here either at the ministry building here or at home.
And you know, do things that give you jaw. You know,
it's okay to have a glass of wine. Now and
again people say I don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex,
don't don't Well what do you do? We're in a
third demensional world. Have some fun because you know what,
it's not an easy place to be. A glass of wine,

(23:44):
it's okay, A couple of beers, it's okay. You know,
don't shame yourself because if you shame yourself, you're just
ingesting your own stuff. Again, I've shamed myself in the past.
I've been there, got the T shirt on that.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
One, you know, Yeah, I mean that's huge. I mean
I talk about it a lot. It was like, listen,
there's no chocolate out there, like in you know, in
the ethers, like there's no grass like be present in
this life, in this body, because that's where gratitude comes from,
small as small as chocolate or small as it is

(24:17):
a breath. Thank you for my heart, Thank you for
this breath, thank you for this body. And move the
awareness to gratitude in the now moment. That's huge and
doing it with everything, A beautiful glass of wine, laughing
with friends and you know, having camaraderie, and that's that's
there's no money, that is that that could buy those
things you know.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Now and the people around you. You know nowadays, if
you look at the states of the world and you know,
like I said, I don't believe in beligion. I don't
believe in politics. I don't believe anything. I just believe
in one God. And I know God's got our back,
and you know, it'll evolve the way it's meant to.
You know, things will always unfold. We did a ceremony
last Saturday. We had four thousand and one on the

(25:00):
and ten people on it between YouTube and Facebook or
we did the ceremony. It's basically what it's doing again.
You know, I don't believe in judgment because my father
thinks everything's great with the who and everything else, and
you know, that's wonderful, you know, And he's taking everything
and done everything, and I don't. You know, So who's
right or who's wrong? And the answer is that there's
no right or wrong. His perception of the world is

(25:23):
his perception and his truth within his you know, within
his understanding. My truth is very different. But no one's
right or wrong. And so you know, I explained to
one day, I said, Dad, there is no right or wrong,
you know. So you know, And again, I love some
of Jesus teaching. I'm not a Christian, but I love
Jesus teachings. And that's don't judge people, stop it, you know.
And I said, you believe in Jesus, don't He goes yeah,

(25:44):
I said, well stop judging. Then you know us his
teachings and you know, and don't just speak about it,
show up and do it. You know, that's so important.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Your perception creates a reality. And you know, I get
those messages as well. I'm a Christian. I come from
a Christian background and call myself a CHRISTI mystic. I
still have that foundation. And and people will hit you
with all kinds of theories. There there's no end to
these theories and the ones that are doom and gloom.
And they say this is the truth, and I just
simply reply, so shall it be unto you as you

(26:14):
if you believe it, you it's your truth. It becomes
real to you, not only to you. And uh and
even Jesus taught on that. Jesus taught on like these
universal principles of the mind and belief in the imagination.
And if you believe it, it's going to be given unto you.
Ask anything, and it shall be given unto you. So
what are like the limitations on anything? My anything is

(26:38):
like believing for some really cool stuff that that I
have privy, I'm privy access to other people. No, you
can't do that. No, you can't do that because your
faith isn't there. But when you try, you step out,
you're like, wow, we have we have helpers like somebody consciousness,
God that is in our thoughts, that is in our life,

(27:00):
is listening to everything that we we ask. And so
it's interactive our faith in this life and the angels
in the chasidec and the beings like it's so amazing,
it's it's wonderful.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it's about unconditional love. I mean, you know,
I love Jesus teachings. I said, they're not unlike Buddha.
You know, I've got buddy Beard and me apologies self.
He decided he's going to keep it eie of but
his teachings are amazing. You know, just look at those
fundamental teachings. You know, if you look at the whole
Bible things, and you know that's people's perception again of
what they thought. He said, I think what you've got

(27:36):
to do to me is resonate. Does that resonate with
yes or no? And that's again that's your truth. Always
go I always going back to people listening to truth
seeking things, you know, especially some factions. And what you've
got to do is again, you know, even with my healings,
you know, does they resonate. If they don't, don't worry
about it. It's okay, you know, because you know my

(27:56):
healings aren't going to resonate for everybody. It depends where
they are, you know, how evolved they are, or they've
got ego. No, you know, and I've seen it, you know,
it's just amazing. So the only person you can believe
in is this intuition within yourself. You know, you you
are your own sovereign being. And I think you know,
I always encourage people, you know, feel it. You know,

(28:17):
if it resonates, great, you know, then then go with it.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, and there's a big there's a big you know,
spiritual war as far as that's concerned. Because you you're
believing for something greater. You know it's real in your heart.
You might not have no proof, you don't even your
outward situation doesn't even look like the things that you
see in your visions. And how do we bring it
into fruition? And you begin to talk about it, you
begin to share it, and then people begin to ridicule you.

(28:42):
You're doing what you said? What? And so that journey
of bringing that I think it's a shamanic journey that
we go within and get get the information, the visions
and bring them out and manifest them before the people.
And that's a process. And uh, but somebody who hasn't experience, Yeah,
they're gonna ridicule. Yeah, they're going to point fingers and
name called. You've never been attacked by a reptilian in

(29:06):
in your bedroom, you don't. Let's start blind and look
at that.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
The things like ten four six, So what on earth
this is the age of four? What do I do
with it? And what I did with my dad? Father's
gonna get out of my bedroom when it wins?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know?

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Oh wow, that worked And I got this in the
power even at the age of four, you know, and it.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Will help me.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, Christopher, we're coming upon a short break and we'll
take a quick breaks two three minute break and on
the other side, I want to ask you about that
powerful symbol that you have behind you. So when we
come back and ask you about the flower, we take
absolutely we'll be right back. Thank you guys. Wow. So

(29:53):
the Throne Room meditation. Man, this was just like a
new level for me of creating encounter. Really, the process
behind it is going in for myself, having an encounter
with the Lord, tapping into the spirit and getting in
his presence and really just petitioning the Father's heart and saying, God,
what would you say to them if I'm bringing these

(30:14):
people with me here, if they're doing this guided meditation
and we're going through this journey, we're having fun, we're
seeing things, we're experiencing new feelings and emotions and sensations,
what would you say to him? So it's channeling the
Father's heart and relating it back to the people. So, man,
it's just a beautiful encounter. And I remember when I

(30:34):
wrote the first one, I was so excited about it
and it was just God speaking to my heart. I
was able to channel the Father's heart and I would
read the script to people because I was just so
excited while I was working on it. And every time
that I would just read the script, the presence of
God would just invade me and I just burst into
tears and I couldn't even read it. I'm just like,

(30:55):
let me copy and paste it and send it to you.
But every time I listened to it, I'm immediately translated
back into the Throne Room of God, and everything's good there.
That's the place where everything is okay. Where in the
scriptures it says that we are to hide under the
shadow of the Almighty. This is the Throne room of God.

(31:16):
This is the place that we can encounter for ourselves,
but this is also a place in which we dwell,
so a part of us is always there and we
have access to that low as people who have never
encountered this before in their life, and it's a totally
new experience for them. And almost every time I get
a testimony back from someone, they just say how God

(31:37):
wrecked their lives, that they didn't know what they were
getting into. The next thing they know, they're in the
presence of God, wrapped up in his glory. He's communicating
his love to them and it just totally wrecks their lives.
So make sure you check out the Throne Room guided
meditation visualization that I brought to the table.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
There are things that go bump in the night, pull
up a chair.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Don't be scared.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
But you have many friends unaware. On the Truth Seek
a podcast, we think apart.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
He seems like a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You're listening to the Truth seek a podcast. Now back
to the show.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Shit, don't get scared.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Now, all right, we're back, uh Christopher again, thanks for
being on. For those of you who are just tuning in,
we are talking to Christopher Macklin and I want to
ask you about that beautiful symbol behind you, the flower
of life. What does that symbol mean to you? And
there's so many explanations and people interacting with it and

(33:05):
just what it means when they glance at it. What
does that symbol mean to you?

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well, to me, you know, sacred geometry is about vibration
and the formulation for you know, it's basically look at it.
It's just lots of sphere you know, or circles around
and of course the infinite sphere is an infinite pyramid,
so's it's creating energy and it's showing life, you know,

(33:30):
whoever expanding in my opinion, because you know, spheres. The
whole universe is made up of you know, infinite spheres
and that's part of the sacred geometry going on. So
so it's a beautiful symbol and I think you know
the vibration of it's very very important.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah. For me, it's it's the oneness. How all of
these circles are all touching one another and are interlaced,
and so we are an extension of each other. We
are a family, we are you know, I am another you,
You are another median. So that's that's a big part
of it for me. I've also heard a lot of
people meditating upon the Flower of Life and also Metatron's

(34:09):
Cube and things like that, and meditate and stare at it,
and they talk about the symbol beginning to like unfold
and open up and become a portal. I don't know
if you've had any encounters with.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah, I have actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know,
you cannect in portals with things. It takes a while
because you have to. It's almost like you watch it
and you get into a trans mental, transnental meditative states
and then things, you know. I mean, I've seen some
extraordinary things, you know, I've created portals in the sky,
and you know, I've done a lot of teachings with
this thing, because I think it's very important for people

(34:42):
to realize that this is not the only dimension. You know,
there's infinite dimensions and you know. That's part of my
healing work is putting portals around people because if you
think about it, you know, it's very important if you've
got if you've got reaptive and beings in this in
a different time but same space, they're all around you.
So it's important to put people in portal. So I

(35:03):
put eight portals around them, bond it into merca bar fields.
So there's eight points in the mercer bar field. I
think I've got one here. This is a marker bar field.
It's just thing. And what you do is bond the
portals into the eight points and then the mas kids
that beings, because you're in a different vibration, the the
kids that beings can come through in that vibration and
do work on your body. And that's one of the

(35:25):
very important things. And the good thing about that is
is that you're not absorbing someone's energy. They're in their
own sacred space. And that's very important when you're healing,
because otherwise you can take people's energies and you know,
the energy of sickness or cancel whatever on and I've
seen people do that and they've got really sick, you know,
and help them get back to where they were, So

(35:47):
I use portal and systems nice.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
So is that would be something that you would you
would do in the spirit realm 're just seeing it
in your imagination and sending it to the person. I've
heard people doing it like that as well.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
I actually I can remote viewing people's body. So, you know,
it's interesting because people are how does the remote view
work in my you know, I think everyone's maybe slightly different.
But it's like having windows in your mind. So you've
got windows there, you know, and you open the thing.
So let me let me look at the kidneys. So
open a window, let me look at kidneys. Oh, and
I can see the video what the kidneys are like,

(36:22):
and if they look sick, and if they look great.
You know, I can see the lower and testing, I
can see the firewood, you know, I can look at things.
I can look at tumors and and you know, so
remote viewing is a very good instrument to look inside
the body and see how things are doing, whether they're shrinking.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
You know.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
I use that all the time. Yeah, So it's like having.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Do you think there's something similar to what aggar Casey
was doing. He would go into these trances and be
able to I've heard take a journey and be able
to see stuff and come back with the information. It
wasn't that he would go in a trance and immediately
know like he would actually journey somewhere to get the
answers for the what the person was dealing with the diagnosis.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Oh yeah, I mean when you go to a trans
meditation state, this is they've made it different. This is
one's like having a video and you're looking in people's bodies.
In a trans mental meditative state, your soul actually leaves
your body. I don't even know this, but when you
soul leaves your body, it's gone an umbilical cord and
it goes off traveling. You know, you can travel anywhere

(37:25):
and you can look at things, but because you know
your soul's there, you can see the things very clearly,
and then of course you know you need to come back.
It's very important when you do that to protect your
soul because if you don't, if they ever break that
an umbilical cord, you'll go to a coma. And that's
what happens when people, you know, getting car rex, they
suddenly end up you know, in a carrect. The body
gets really sick and the soul rips out of the

(37:48):
body so quickly the ambilical cord breaks and then you're
in a coma because the soul can't find its way
back into the body. So that's a very important thing. Always,
you know, protect yourself, Always encourage people. You know, lot
of prayer, the twenty seven esoteric Mercrobot Field prayer. It's
probably one of the most powerful prayers on this planet.
It's putting twenty seven layers of energy, you know, in

(38:09):
this formation around your body, so it can't be penetrated
for about a day. So do try and break you
down because of course we're in a spiritual battle, so
try and manipulate you any time they can.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
You know, early on, when you're having this awakening and
things started happening, just going a little bit further and
getting into you know, these communities that were part of
Was there anybody's work that stuck out to you early on?
Any philosophers, any religious leaders you mentioned, Buddha, things like that.
Were does somebody's work that really meant a lot to

(38:42):
you early on?

Speaker 6 (38:44):
I think all the mccius that lineage, Buddha, Jesus of Christ,
Enoch Baba Jee it's a mccuse that lineage. You know,
I don't know why you know that book and you
know these I looked at these teachings. They were fundamentally
the same. They were just put in a different way,
I think. And that's why I work with them, because
that being because I was you know, I am one,

(39:06):
you know. But obviously I've got human you know, DNA
as well to make you have the ability to have
a body. But you know, my body doesn't sit well
down here at all. It needs a better managing. But
that's that's what it is. But yeah, all all their teachings,
it's all about high vibration or conditional of which is
high vibration. Don't judge anybody, you know. I've always got

(39:28):
got that thing. You know, when we do prayers, you know,
to remove the empties. I said, okay, do you you
know I talked to kids that being, let's remove the
empties and send them back to God with unconditional of forgiveness,
because it's not for us to judge them. You know,
I never judge in the empties because you know that
if they're manipulated, it's not for me to say, hey,
you're doing right wrong because that's their perception and again
of their lives. So just send them back to God

(39:50):
and God deals with them in whatever way God decides,
you know.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, and it's for me coming
out of Christianity and like spiritual w warfareers, like anything negative,
any sickness, was like, we gotta get rid of it.
It's it's here to kill us. And this the devil
that comes to still kill and destroy. I understand that.
But eventually on this awakening process and journey, I understood that,

(40:16):
like the Creator kind of orchestrated my journey and put
these roadblocks and these bumps in the road to teach
me fire. It's trial and testing, and in that there's
beautiful things that come out of us. And so again
being thankful for all of that stuff in hindsight, not
going through it obviously we want to get out of it.

(40:41):
There became this difference of like trying to cast out
everything that was uncomfortable or anything we thought was demonic
as a hold on this being is a symptom of
your smoking habit, Like this this symptom is not We're
not just gonna deal with your cough. Yeah you gotta cough.
We gotta heal it, we gotta deal with it. But
it's much deeper. It's the smoking. You got to get

(41:02):
rid of that. And that's just one thing. There's many, many,
many things that happened, but everything in hindsight like there's
I send gratitude too. I'm thankful for those sleepless nights,
for those uncertainties where I had to get clear in
my vision. I was tormented in my mind by a demon.

(41:23):
You can call it a spirit, you can call it
an arkon. But I'm thankful that that thing showed up
because it made me man become a warrior and take
back my sovereignty and say, hey, I'm done with this.
I'm getting clear, this is what I'm doing moving forward.
But again afterwards, there's this immense gratitude. I'm like, thank
you God for lining that up for me and bringing

(41:46):
these things out of me that I couldn't take to
the next level. Doubt, fear, worry, confusion, judgments, worrying about money. No.
Where we're going through these next levels, you gotta leave
that below. That's lower level frequency stuff. In order to
assin you got to leave that at the door. That's
all part of this our chemical process.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Right absolutely, you know, and I think you know if
you look at you know, the programming this world, it's
MONTUK programming. You know, people you know are program to
go to work. How many people you know every day?
You know, I hate my job. Well, if you hate
it that much, let's change it right now, go resign
because it's not worth it. You know why you're there?

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Money?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Wrong, wrong answer. Well it's not the wrong answer, it's
it's the right answer. But let's change that answer. And
you know, it's having that leap of faith, you know,
to to go out and do a gift because I
always tell people in a way I love goes, energy
flows and money is energy. So you'll always have enough.
You know. It might might have been a millionaire who cares,

(42:46):
but you'll always have enough. And that's that's kind of
so important. It really is important.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
And listen, they say, that's the uh, you know, the
greatest worship of God is to to understand why you're
here and use that that gift and that that ability
for the greater good, Like that's the your service to humanity.
And once you figure that out, it changes everything.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
But there's a there's a gulf there's a gap in
between of like, yeah, I want to be a healer
or I want to be a rapper, but it doesn't
bring in money, is it? Is it a pipe dream?
Do I leave it behind? And so that journey is hard,
and it is that the chemical process of getting stuff
out of me a bad relationship with money. Money means
that I'm not present with my family. Money means that

(43:32):
I have to work hard and long hard hours. No,
like we have this, you know, misconception of money is energy.
Money is value. What I bring to the table that
has tremendous value and there's no money that could measure that.
Once you own your worth and know that, it completely
changes everything and that's what it did for me.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Oh it does actually, and I think the stall seats
in particularly they do get attacked a law Yeah, I
speak to every day. I don't know what to do.
You know, if you look at your Casha records, you
know you know about Casha records. But the because that
being has created a Kasha records were the prime creator.
The reason is is because they didn't want people to
be able to go in the past and change timelines,

(44:14):
to misshape the whole time space. Continuum and this time,
and you would do so. Of course, when things have happened,
they've happened. They're solidly a casha records. You can't change that.
But of course, the future, your timeline, future is infinite.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
You know.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
You can you can go and work in you know,
a big grocery score. You know, Okay, you know that's
is that a divine timeline? Probably not, you know, but
who knows. You might be agreed to them, you know,
get people excited about going to that grocery sty. Oh
my god, you just look amazing. Give them jaw you know,
who knows? You know, you could spread your light. You
can go into corporate and you can change things. Okay,

(44:49):
let's do meditation in IBM or some big corporation and
you change their culture. That's just amazing. You can be
a painter, you know, I do. I mean, you know,
one of the things I think about finding your passion
is that burning thing inside you which allows you to
wake up in the morning and get excited. Most stour
seeds you know that I've spoke to until you get them,
you know, to a vibration from place where they can

(45:10):
really get back to our sovereign self. Or in a place,
you know, a life. You know, why am I here?
What's the point? Because there's no point. You know, you
were born here to spread your gifts and bring gifts
from the ethers. And and I think if you don't
find that, it's very sad. You know, I love what
I do, and you know it allows me to get
up in the morning and get really excited. And you

(45:31):
know I would be lying to say am I there?
One hundred percent at the time, I'd be lying to say, yes,
I am. Because sometimes you do get the odd hour
in the day sometimes now and a going you know,
you feel a bit lower, and then you go and meditate,
get back in your space, and right we're back to
it again. So you know, everyone must feel that because
the collective energy, you know, one of our jobs with

(45:53):
the Actorum Beings is there's a curstline structure around a
planet that used to be used for you know, telepathy
and all this sort of thing. So what happens is
this cryst line structure of humanity. You know, in the
state it's in now, there's a lot of collective energy
of lack, despair and disbelief and discopopulation that fills up
in this crystaline structure around a planet, and so other

(46:16):
people start seeds, in particular the mpath and they start
to take this energy on. Oh my god, I'm feeling despair,
like so residal almost. And the reason is, you know,
we clear this once a week. We used to clear
it once every three months and then it went down
to once a month, and that's once a week.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
But we can't.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
We actually can't clear any faster. And I think the
reason is is because it's it's up to people, you know,
we ever again in a prayer. It's actually on the
front of the website to remove the collective energy from
your life. And sometimes you have to do that three
or four times a day to bring that, you know,
so you get your joy back again because otherwise you're
suppressed by this collective energy. So there's all these instruments

(46:53):
that were created to try and help people navigate and
move forward in life and have a joyous, you know,
great experience. But but you have to show up, you know,
because all I want I don't want to do it
for me. Well, it doesn't work like that. You have
to show yourself. The instruments are there, you use them
or not, you know, and if you don't, you know,
it's going to try and drag you down. So so
that's you know, that's on the foot of the website

(47:15):
if anyone wants to see it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah, I've been to the website and man, you're you're healing,
working and doing three sessions a week like that that
are open for everybody. Like that's amazing. Thank you for
everything that you're doing. That's that's amazing.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Like, no, it's a pleasure. Well, that's that's thear to me.
I mean, this is a five to one C three.
It's very important because you know, I've been there without money,
like nothing, you know, annoy even for food. And you know,
I would have loved to get on someone's site and
you know, even doing meditation or something. But you know,
people always charge for everything. It's important to do some
something so everyone gets it here, you know, and I

(47:48):
always make sure.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
That you know that always for me as as an
entrepreneur and someone who makes a living off of my
art and things like that, that justifies the paid stuff
is like listen, we have more than enough for stuff
out there for you. You know, if you can't get
in this like that information is in the Truthy Podcast,
Like listen to my conversation with Christopher Macklin, Like we
touched and gave you techniques and things like. You can

(48:11):
listen to the podcast and get the information. So it's
not like privy or just you got to pay for it.
It's out there. You may have to listen to hours
of content, but even the prayer circles and things like that,
like making it, you know, with the karmic energy, Like
if you had everything that was behind the paywall, listen,
that doesn't that doesn't pan out right, but say, hey,
for those that we're going to meet everybody where they are,

(48:33):
there's something for everyone.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
That's that's huge, and I think, you know, I think
then it becomes balanced. I mean, you know, we've got
a few people try and shame and so well Jesus
never charged for you. Well that was two thousand years ago.
There was hardly any monetary system available. And you know
he used to get free bed and you know, he
used to get free rides the next town. So so
his needs were looked after. But it wasn't that same money.

(48:56):
It was just needs to look after in this world
wherever I and stuff like this, you know, I mean
it equipment. This ministry've got about eighty thousand dollars with
stuff so we can actually produce, you know, and do
the healings. And you know, it's paid for by the
goodness of people's heart, you know, and if it wasn't painful,
we'dn't be able to do it. And often say, well,
what do you want? Do you want the healing sessions

(49:17):
or do you want me to go on the end
of the street just beg for food.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
It's up to you.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
If I begged for food, I can't really focus on
the healings though, you know, I don't know what to say.
But you know, it's it's a misconstrued idea that it's
just a different energy. Were accepting. Jesus accepted clothes and
you know, travel and yeah, you know, food and things
like that, you know, and of course he got free wine,
you know, which is good.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
It was definitely well taken care of back then, and
it worked a lotle bit different. Like I like, you know,
that's my school of thought and the Old Testament. They
had something called the School of the Profits where they
like raised up people like listen, don't worry about where
you're going to get your next meal. From we have
people who are going to cook for you. You're job
is to meditate and learn how to go into the

(50:03):
astuals and bring back information and then go out into
the community and change people's lives. Like there was a school,
there was housing they were they were taking care of
and meals and all of that, and so they didn't
have to juggle a job and juggle you know, a
three hour meditation and your kids are trying to get
in the room, and the kids when it's spend like

(50:25):
it was something that that they were well taken care of.
The Old Testament school of the prophets, and even you
would see the communes in the New Testament where it's
like listen, go out, don't take anything with you. People
are going to take take care of you, and they're
going to give you places to stay and uh, and
we don't see that now, you know as much. And
even with even with people in the clergy and pastors
and things like that, like they they need to be

(50:47):
taken care of. You know, if you believe in that work,
it is a blessing to be able to sow into it.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
Oh yeah, and completely dedicate your thoughts and life ter
I mean, I do with this. You know, I've got
stuff who you know, people look after bookings, people, everything else.
I just come in and do the healings. And I
need to be in that space because if I get
things happening and have to start managing things, it takes
you out of that beautiful, high vibrational space. And I
think you're right, you know, profits did. I mean, one

(51:14):
of the things I do kind of want to bring
up if I may, is GOO stuff. You know, I
think I think it's really important. I've seen a lot
of people manipulated by in quotes goos and you know,
things like this, and and I think, you know, it's
all the time for Gooz has gone. You know, it's finished.
I think, you know, we are own goog. We're our

(51:36):
own sovereign being, you know, be your own Goo. You
don't need somebody else to do teaching. I mean, yes,
get teachings, get enlightenment, but you know, to follow somebody
is something very different. Follow yourself, you know, follow your
own intuition, follow your own sovereign self, you know, And
I really encourage people to do that at the time
of the gooz finish.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
You know, yeah, well, the spirit teaches you you know,
we call it absolutely, we call it a great spirit.
Like there's a lot of names for it. But it
teaches you, and praise God that it teaches you through
people at times, and through conversations and through books. But
to think that, you know, I'm a devotee of this
this this guru, No, there's many gurus. I have a

(52:15):
good friend of mine and I jokingly call him my
guru Illuminati Congo. He's a good friend of mine, and
I said, you're my guru. Brothers, Like, the only way
I can be your guru is if you're my guru.
It was like there's an exchange there, right, We learned
from each other, the collectives. One thing I wanted to
ask you about too. We put this on the thumbnail

(52:36):
and just to get clear on it a little bit.
The Galactic Federation. Now that's a term I've heard a
lot many the Galactic Federation of Worlds, the Galactic Federation
of Light, and there's I've heard, you know, pros and
cons for both. When you use that term being a
member and being a part of this order, the Galactic Federation,

(52:57):
What does that mean to you? And is it the
same thing as those two names that I just mentioned.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
No, not particularly. I mean there's a lot there's a
lot of federations to do with, you know, Palladians and Andromedon's,
so they're just with their people, this collective federation that
we chair, you know, I mean I'm one of the
three people we chair it, you know, and dog all
the time. No, it just depends what's happening down here.

(53:23):
But it's actually to police the whole time space continuum here,
So it's to look at it and see, okay, if
it's going off balance. For example, the Grays, you know,
the Grays have done a lot of damage since the
nineteen thirties, have come down here, given us technology that
we really don't need, and in my opinion, it's like
giving a two year old the keys to Ferrari. It's

(53:44):
not going to last long, you know, it's going to
be smashed up. And that's what's happening in the world.
We've got all this technology we have no business in
having because we're not evolved enough to be able to
handle it. In exchange for abducting people and stealing their
eggs and sperm. Why is that? Because the Grays have
destroyed the planet, you know, with the nuclear stuff, and
so they can't reproduce, so they're producing humanoids and they're

(54:06):
stealing people's body bits. Now, if you think about it,
what's the difference between education and violation? Down here? So
you know, you think, okay, well I'm coming down here.
Before you come, you know about the reptilian creatures. You know,
they're going to try and attach you in mess with it.
Is that an education or a violation? It's an education
because you have to learn, you know, with the power

(54:26):
of prayer and maps of intent to remove it. You know,
what about all the deep state or different things happening,
you know, and hijacked religion, you know, is that an
educational or violation? It's an education because you know it's happening,
so you know you have to learn to navigate it.

(54:46):
But if someone actually paralyzes you and takes you on
their ship and steals your body bits, that is a
violation that goes beyond free will. There's no free will
in that, you know, because they weren't given the opportunity
to say yes or no. The governments signed a contract
say oh you can do it, So that's not okay.
So about three years ago we had this discussion in
the Glacter Federation, lots of being different types of beings there,

(55:08):
you know, all the major ones that we talk about,
and others as well. We talked about, okay, the close
call between violation education, and it was agreed that the Grays,
the Tall Grays, were violating humanity and they were removed
off the planet. So the Actoians took them off the planet. So,
you know, it does please things, but it's got to

(55:29):
be pretty extreme, you know, because if it's education, you know,
there's like you said together, there's there's extreme education down here.
I mean, things happening. Oh my god, how did this happen?
But I think when it comes to violation, they can
step in and do something about it. So they were
taking off the planet. I think it was June three
years ago.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Yeah, I've heard that that because that's the deal. Like
with UFO phenomena uphology, you don't hear the term abductions
too much anymore. You do hear experiencer in contact e
and people who are having beautiful encounters with with off
world entities, not being kidnapped from their bed. Obviously, in

(56:11):
the in the eighties and nineties, that was that was huge,
but around the two thousands. I've heard that that that
was being phased out, So it makes sense for what
you said the last three years that it is something
that's totally stopped because people are even welcoming. I mean,
I know, you know about the CE five initiative and
people out there making making contact with benevolent entities as well,

(56:31):
something that really changed my life. Can you speak to
that a little bit to see five initiative and people
who are wanting to make contact with their extended family,
if you will, and the councils and things like that
from that they're a part of. Is that something that
they can do easily.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Or well, well, well think I've loved I mean, you know,
I want to maybe pointing this out to people, people think, oh,
I just want to come something. I stall see fum me,
So let's just do it. So you lie to that
and I decide, well, are nothing's happened, and then you
do it tomorrow, Well, and that's happened. So how long
did it take me to to really connect to the

(57:10):
MCUs that beings? The answer is it took me something
like two and a half months meditating every day. And
I'll tell you why. And it sounds brutal, but it's true.
They don't want to waste their time with people who
were kind of not dedicated. So if you you know,
if you do a couple of five meditations, are they
going to contact it? Probably not, because that's that's not dedicational.

(57:31):
Oh I've got to and off. You know. It's like
it's like with gratitude, the gratitude stare. We all know
where that came from. Okay, God, I'm going to give
you five minutes. I'm grateful for my wife. I've got
a bit of it equipment, I've got a nice car,
I've got lovely food, and i love living on his
planet and I'm still alive. I'm grateful right wed on
because I've got my time by you know. And that's
not gratitude to me, that's just that's just talk is cheap.

(57:53):
To me, Gratitude is feeding it. Every single day, I
feel that joy of Wow, we can do this and
it's a way of life. And I think and I
think it's the same with contact these stuff. If you
really want to do you have to go into transmedal meditation.
It can take you two months, it can take you
two weeks. It depends on your star Seed family and

(58:14):
how they feel you're dedicated to work with them, because
they're not going to it's brutal, but they're not going
to waste their time with someone who's just going to
give them five minutes. It doesn't work out that, So
you know, to me, I would, at least if you
want to contact your star seed family, get into a
meditative state. They said, we'll watched meditation. I use that
would be nothing. Let your mind go and learn to

(58:35):
let your mind go, and okay, I'm here, you know,
And whenever they show up, if it's two months, if
it's a month, you know, I always tell people God
works at one second to twelve and not a second before,
so they want to see if you're dedicated. Suddenly, I
remember when them kills, their beings did stop. It. Weird
things happen, you know. I have massive vortexes. It was
interesting because I have a massive vortex. I'm going It

(58:56):
looked like rain, but like the rain drops were huge.
It was like anointing type energy stuff and it was
coming in, you know, through the and oh my god,
have we got to leak in the ceilings. It was
this vortex coming in to me and I'll lay there
for six hours and that carried on and I felt
the energy shifting in my body and things happening. I
could do some extraordinary things, you know. We vibrate water

(59:18):
in various forms, put your hand through a wall, different things.
But it took me a long long time to get
in that state. But you know, people say, we'll show me.
The answer is, you know, these these gifts are not
they're not circus acts. They're gifts that you may need
in the future. And therefore, you know, I know I
could do you know, believe it or don't. So it's

(59:41):
it's up to people. But but you know they're not
there for circle. Well, I'll show you because because of
what Because they do take gifts away if you start,
if you start, you know, getting the ego up and
being a circus act, they're gone. You know, it's huge.
So you know you've got to use them in you know,
within God's limitations for humanity and for for God, not

(01:00:03):
just to profit to you and have a circus act,
you know. And so I never use them, Yeah, just
saying look what I can do kind of thing. Yeah,
it's just ego.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
People may say that. Even with miracles, it was like
look what I can do. Now, follow me kind of thing,
you know, but it's not a circus act. Like but
for those people, you know that because I'm getting those
messages to that. There's a couple of memes that I
posted of stargazing and calling your your family in and
stuff like that, and they're like, I've been doing this
for a while with zero results. But like you said,
it could take too much, it could take two weeks.

(01:00:32):
However long it takes, be consistent because when it finally happens,
it's so worthy, it is so worth it. It changes everything.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
It'll blow your socks off. I would normally say it'll
blow your pantaloons off, but I'll just I'll just stick
to socks. Well, no, it's it's amazing. And when thing's open,
you know, you start I think the other thing about you.
You start downloading things, you know, things that you didn't
know and suddenly start knowing things, and you know, you
just got to have that confidence. You know, it's not

(01:01:05):
really challenge. It's actually downloading information you know in sleep state,
because of course in sleep state there's no time, so
you can be in the sleep state for like one,
nine do ten years with the work, and then when
you come back. How on earth did I know this?
How did they know that? You know, I've seen things
with leukemia and different things. You know, gone to sleep,
woke back up. Oh wow, that's how it works, you know. Okay,

(01:01:27):
let's let's let's heal it. You know. Yeah, And I
think it's incredible. So those download states, it's just a
knowing and all knowing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Yeah, that's awesome. And man, the information that comes through
is what you need at that time. It's usually not
useless information like I download it. No, it's like what
you need for your service of humanity, what you need
for to build your faith. All of that I won't later.
I know that on this episode the phone lines aren't open,
But if you guys do have a question posted there

(01:01:56):
in the chat and I will get it over to
Christopher Macklin. If you have a question you want to
ask here in the last few minutes of the episode.
One thing I wanted to ask you about because I've
had a similar encounter. There was this experience that I
had where I was trying to make contact all day.
Why driving? So I'm driving because I should do it
for a living, and I would be looking at the

(01:02:17):
sky at the same time my job and I would
see stuff. I'm trying to communicate telepathically and watch traffic,
you know. And so I pulled over towards the end
of the day at a rest stop and I went
and the weather was amazing, and that's huge for us
down here in the South because it's usually humid and nasty.
Cool breeze was blowing. I lay down on this slab

(01:02:38):
of it was a table, but it was made out
of a concrete slab. And I laid down on the
table and I'm just looking up during the day and
I just closed my eyes and begin to meditate and
ask for a sighting, asked for the you know, the visitation,
let me know you're out there. And I had this
encounter that I heard you kind of speak on something similar.
This was the first time, but it was as I'm meditating,
are you there, Are you there? Boom, A big sonic

(01:03:02):
boom happened. And I was listening to one of your
interviews the other day. That same day, I saw a fleet.
The sky was filled during the day with these starships
and it freaking amazing. And but I heard you you
share a story where you heard a sonic boom, and
the ships came through as well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
Yeah, I went to a ranch because the grays at
the time, it was just about five years ago. What
was happening. It was a ranch and it was a
horse retreat, you know, for horses who were you know,
they were old and you just needed looking after. So
what was happening is that these grays were coming down
and you know, a horse would be dismember the next day.
They were eating the thing, you know, and so you know,

(01:03:43):
I thought, okay, this istar okay. So I went to
the ranch and there was a portal there, you know,
with these grays coming through. So I spent probably about
a day day and a half, got the portal open.
There was a sonic boom, and it was amazing because
normally he said, they opened the portal ad at ground level,
but they know, I'm like, I'll just walk through it,
you know. So they they would about films of feet
up and you could just see like craft and things,

(01:04:06):
you know, this circle and craft just passing through and
things dropping out. It was incredible. But you know, we
have watches because because that being you know, we worked
with very close to the acty and so we have watches.
You know, you're not talking about watches, And they're basically
there to protect us, takes us off planet if things
go crazy, because I'm meant to do some particular things
down there, which is our pyramid project, which you know

(01:04:28):
and talk about later or you know, another time. So
I've got watches. And so as soon as I saw it,
boom happen. These three craft Actorian craft came about a
mile away and they were just sitting there and then
going into one flying behind each other, and three and one,
and they sat there. Five minutes later, the military helicopters
came out flying around, and I got, what do we

(01:04:48):
do with these things? And anyway, I worked on this
portal forty minutes. I shut it down and we actually
got rid of it. As soon as I shut it down,
these guys were gone. So they were there to basically
just make sure I don't do something silly and if
they have to take us off planet. And yeah, it
was amazing, but the sonic boom was you know, that's
a portal opening, you know, you get like a sonic boom,

(01:05:09):
you know, and then suddenly you feel did it feel different? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Yeah, yeah, I fell the energy it felt like I
caused it in in the level of expectation was like, Okay,
they're out there somewhere, they just have to uncloak, you know,
and then when they did, it was a supernatural experience.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
I would say, no, it's brilliant. Yeah, absolutely, But so
they're really contacting. But you know, it just takes time
for like I say, you know, I don't want people
to just give up. Oh, nothing happened. I made it
if for five minutes, for two weeks and nothing happened, Well,
five minutes doesn't cut the mustard. You've got to ready dedicate,
you know. I mean I dedicate my life to this.
You know. We do things all the time, you know,

(01:05:48):
and I love it. You know. We do have a
little bit of time off, but a lot of time
there's always something to do. You know. That's the way
it is. But it's a way of life. You know.
I always joke on Saturday, yeah it's my day off
because we do the Generic group at eleven o'clock Central time.
It's my day off. Oh that would be or not
because we're always doing something and I love it, you know.

(01:06:09):
So it's a way of life.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Can you speak to maybe a little bit about seeing
things visually, like we want to see a ship, we
want to see a being come into our room. And
and you know, once we have certain experiences, it opens
us up to kind of feel the energy, because you
do feel different when they are present, when they are

(01:06:33):
sending telepathic information and downloads like you said, and you
don't actually have to see something. Do you think like
eventually we move from having to be able to see
something all the time to just knowing, Okay, they're they're
up there right now and watching over me, and something
is going to happen. That kind of thing like this
inner inner knowing.

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
Oh yeah, I mean you know, some people have the
gift to see it. It's almost like tuning your eyes
out to a different frequency. You know, it's weird. I
can It's for me a while to learn to switch
you on off. Because if you go in a restaurant,
if there's a big old reptilian stock to somebody, you know,
you don't want to sit at that table. Oh I
don't know what to do with that, you know, So
you just tune them out because they're not going to
touch it, and I just enjoy yourself. But I think

(01:07:13):
you know, it is tuning your eyes up. It's like
if you look up in the sky, and everyone should
try this, look up at the sky, let your eyes
go and focus on just you know, like let them go,
you know, focus on nothing except you know, and you'll
start seeing like little angelic beings. I don't know anyone's
seeing those around, and there's billions of them, and they're
all part of this like flower of life. They're all

(01:07:34):
connected together. It connects to the you know, prime creator.
It's amazing. So I think I think i'd encourage you,
you know, people to do that. You know. And what
another thing you can do as well is if you
see these angelic beans, put your finger and look at
the side of your finger and you know, let your
eyes again go beyond and just focus unconditional love on

(01:07:56):
the end of that thing. You'll you'll see these things collected.
It's amazing. People say, oh, yeah, they're just like it's
just floaters. It's not, because you know, if you put
your finger up, focus on comditional love, you'll see these
things start to collect around. They love on conditional love.
So you know, it's an angelic instrument that connects all
the angelic beings together. Wow, you can try it out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Yeah. Yeah, And there's techniques that you can do and
with energy work and you know this, you teach this.
There's where you can feel your own energy and things
and push and pull and it's awesome all the tools
that we have little practices like that that just like, hey,
if I can see it on my finger, can I
see it here? Can I see it there? And then
you just begin to move out. I want to ask

(01:08:37):
you about sigils, like during meditation or sungazing. I do
a little bit of that a lot of times. Get
I see symbols and and I'll write them down or
draw them with my hand and things like that. Do
you ever get any of those like weird maybe it
looks like Enochian sigils or symbols for the angelic and
things like that. Is that something that you ever receive

(01:08:59):
in downloads?

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I have. I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
It's interesting because we've got a meditation technique that is
is like and I'm just going to give an example.
And the magi. The magi is part of the m
Kills deck, you know, and that's all Mkill's deck being
talking about the last past lineage. The magi writing is
odd symbols if you look on the internet, you'll probably
see it and they've got symbology. So we used to
do a manifestation technique. Now it's usually the pentagram. People

(01:09:28):
all are dark. Well, it's not dark. It depends what
you do with it, you know, it depends on your intent.
So it's a five pointed start, so it's five pyramits
pointing in. So this is like this comes from the
knights templar. Originally who were the knights of the temples,
and then it got hijacked like everything, So you know,
on the pentagram, it's who, what, where, when? Why? Now

(01:09:50):
if you write who, which is you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
What do you want? A car? What do you need? When? Where?

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
Why?

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
You know, you write all that in the magi symbology,
what you do as you write it backwards like Hebrew,
and then you replace each letter with the magi symbol
that it represents. Now the magi is makilsdet, which is
you know, angelic or you're going to use loos affair
and symbology which means you're going to sell your soul
if you get anything that's just not good. So so

(01:10:18):
again you know, the pentagram, all these things, pyramids, everything
can be used for good or evil, you know, but
I'd say good or manipulative. It depends on your perception.
So you know, people say, oh, I'm not using that pentagram,
Well why not? You know, it's it's just it's just
five pyramids pointing in. What happens is when you put
the energy hear, what, where, when, why? It actually points

(01:10:39):
in and it creates the how, you know, and then
it sends it out to God.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
So it's a it's a.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
Sacred geometric structure. And any sacred geometric structure can be
used for good about it? You know? Obviously I use
it for good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Yeah, yeah, I remember doing that knowledge and I've got
I've got sacred geometry all over my hands and I
love it. And uh and people are like, oh, you
got the seven pointed star, the six point the five
pointed star. And you know, the mind mostly goes immediately
to the negative, like hold on, you're trained in the negative, right,

(01:11:12):
you know those things? Google the positive, see what the
positive uses for this these symbols are, and retrain your mind.
I remember when you know, segarinicity was was huge in
my life, and I started seeing six six six everywhere,
and and other people are starting to see it two
and they're like, oh, it's that's the mark of the beast,
Like six six six is like something bad's going to happen.

(01:11:32):
Like wow, there's a beautiful side to those numbers as well.
To think that anything in and of itself is demonic
is is not the case? Everything has polarities, right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Oh yeah, I mean numology any multiples of three is
is christ conscious?

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
The you know, so six at six nine nine nine,
And you know, if you know what's on our website,
you know, if we sell any meditations now it's always
you know, you can add the numbers up and you
don't get a circle number. It's always multiple nine or three,
you know, and that's important. So yeah, absolutely, you know,
it depends on people's again perception.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
You know, Richie, are you there, brother? Do we have
any questions in the chat that are people are asking
that are conducive to the conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Yes, there is one question about gratitude for the time,
by the way, gratitude question for daily meditation practice. Is
there a recommended technique or practice that Christopher can share it?

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
What I would do is learn, you know, if you
want to I think if you want to connect start.
I've had this question a lot people, So which meditation
should I use? One of yours and what somebody else's
And the answer is, you know, I think we're creating
one to connect to your starsitya family. It's not finished yet,
so but I think, you know, for your starsy family.
I just think it's just important to learn to let

(01:12:51):
your mind go, you know, don't think about anything. And
it takes training. Oh yeah, but I'm thinking about what
dinner I'm going to cook, or you know, we're going
on vacation next week, and how an't going to how
you know? And you get all this, but you know,
letting your mind go is a really difficult thing to do.
And I've learned it and I can do it, and
it's almost like again transmittal. And when you do it

(01:13:12):
and you really let your mind go, and you get
this overwhelm, like relaxation of your body, you almost can't
get up, you know, it's almost like your body is
paralyzed and you're ready to receive, you know, but it
takes time, you know. So I would I would learn
to lie down in bed, try not to go to sleep,
of course, let your mind go and just focus on
you know, focus on maybe a particular area of the

(01:13:34):
wall and just allow let your eyes go as well,
because they start creating things. I remember when I believe
they showed me all my past lives for four thousand years,
because you know, before that it didn't really matter because
a lot of star Seeds have been down back here
to train to train in how the Earth's evolving. For

(01:13:56):
the last four thousand years, it's gone really quickly, and
so they show the past lives and it was almost
like having a third dimensional light video going. I was watching. Wow,
you know, they've shown me different things and it was extraordinary.
That was in Belize and san and Nashow and it
was just an amazing experience. So but it does take

(01:14:17):
time to learn, you know, to really train yourself to
let your mind go and get rid of all the
monkey mind and the things that are going on. So
I just keep practicing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
That's still actually connected to his starsy families. Other meditory,
I mean, we have meditation for detox in you know
that they're really healing meditations. We have one for past
life clearing. We have all sorts of things, you know,
but but fundamentally for the star sege, you just gotta
let your mind go and then you start getting downloads.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Beautiful, beautiful, I got. I got a friend of mine.
This is a good friend of mine, Stephen Cook, with
my awakening experiences, and he's been there for the whole journey.
And so I guess he's coming in with the question again,
he's been there with my journey in seeing ships and
all of that since the beginning. Is your micro on, Stephen,

(01:15:06):
do you have a question? I guess he's enabling it, so,
but I guess let me know when you're able to
come in and turn your micro on, Stephen, and we'll
let you ask the question, Richie, anything else on your
own brother.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
A lot of gratitude for the information that shared, a
lot of questions about the angel numbers and the origins
of those, but mostly grateful to hear elders shared speak
of this.

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Angel numbers everyone's seeing in three thirty three, eleven, eleven, two,
twenty two, those kind of things.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
I think that's the involvement. You know, you see things,
which is syncredicity again, it's Lascy family. It can be
from different frequencies and you know the other is changing
of course right now and you know you can feel it.
You know, there's different energies coming through, There's different planetary alignments.
You know, there's a whole slew of things. You know.

(01:16:06):
SIGRed distes is just you know, little nudges that hey,
we're here.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
You know, can you hear me? Now? Got you man?
Got your mic working brother? Welcome man?

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
How are you trying to go through Facebook?

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
And zoom? I figured it out though.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
So at an early age.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
I started seeing things, and I mean things that I
could tell when I would try to point it for
other people to see, like I as hand as fast
as my hand would move, it would dip down like
and thinking back, I could tell, you know, it was
connected to my mind. And uh, It's been around a
long time and I've developed a sense of like friendship

(01:16:53):
with it that I can't explain what it is. Only
place I can find any recollection of anything that looks
like kid is in the Bible. I mean the burning
Bush and Moses the star that the magi I followed.
So like you know, me growing up as a Christian
old school my grandpa was a Baptist, I couldn't, you know,

(01:17:16):
just push it away, you know, like I literally you know,
studied and seen in the Bible that you know, Elijah
was swept up until a fiery shared all these things.
And it just so happened during the significant points in
my life they showed up. My grandfather died was when
I really really really started seeing them. But every now

(01:17:39):
and then I would get so pissed off and I'd
be like in my head, I'm not saying this out loud,
you know, what the hell do you want with me?

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
You know, like they're like.

Speaker 7 (01:17:49):
Flying over and because you want to know you really
it generally part of you, especially if you're young, and
I was, you know, younger, I think, younger than thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
What do you want with me? What you know?

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
What? What do I mean to you?

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
And Uh? Anyway, I stayed outside and I was working
out a little longer. It never happens to where I
go outside and meditate. It's always I get an insinuation
to walk outside for something and boom, and I don't
have many areas in my neighborhood where I can see them.
And uh, and then like that night, that same night,

(01:18:28):
after I hit a couple on the bench, fresh sit
up and there's like this light like two houses down.
It doesn't look very big. It doesn't mean that it's
not doesn't mean that it's you know, doesn't shine bright.
But in that moment, it's like just going down straight
down over the house, and it's like I could feel it,

(01:18:50):
like I mean something to it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
But and then the next night the opposite happened. I
walked out there. I didn't yell, I did and something
told me go out there, and two hours is down
one was going up real slow. I mean, in my
whole family, all three of my sons see them all
the time. And I know it's a generational thing. I
know that's why the Bible is like a you know,
the genealogy is a big deal. But I'm thankful for

(01:19:19):
them because just just about every time now that I'm
about to go through a rough time in my life,
I get a sign. I like, I'll have like a
formation flyover.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
And what that sign is?

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
I used to think, Oh, yeah, it's great. Now I know,
like I'm facing to go through something that I'm not alone.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, well that's key,
I think. Yeah, I mean, they sometimes show up as orbs.
Sometimes they show up as beings. It depends, you know,
if it's if it's people have crossed over, they can
obviously come back in you know, energetic form. Sometimes they
come back as orbs. Sometimes they come back as actual people.

(01:20:00):
But you know, if it comes back as a person,
it freaks a lot of people out. So sometimes they
just show us an orb, you know, so it doesn't
freak you out. But the angelic beings also show up
as sometimes orbs, like orange orbs or white orbs as well,
you know, as well as you know, I can see
them because that beings they show up in maroon, but
they show what they've been in the past, you know,

(01:20:20):
they show their form, what they've been in the past.
Oh you know, like mother Mary or whatever. You know.
So so yeah, that's that's really good. Just send them
loads of love because if they are there and I
think it's a sign and say, hey, yeah, just about
to tank and something's happening, well yeah, you know, well
yeah here for you, you know, and it's wonderful. It
really is wonderful.

Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
But yeah, I mean there's been a bunch of it's
been a bunch of experiences like that. And then on
the flip side, at an early age. Before I learned
about all that, like you know, there was the darker
side of it. I would wake up with dark beings
on top of me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
And to this day I don't sleep with the light.
It's all lay all the way off, like.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
You know what I'm saying. I mean, even though I
know what to do now, if I get attacked, it's
still not very fine, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
No, no, it's not you know, I mean the attack
though if you use the twenty seventy start Mergapo field.
And also we have a spiritual tack prayer, the because
that beings. You know, we're talking about the lineage of
like Jesus whatever them because that beings. They're very powerful prayers.
But they're not like they're not powerless victim prayers. They're
very you know, and people have a hard job of them.

(01:21:30):
Like I command you God to and then at the
end of it we say and I thank you God,
send your mind condition lover. It's a very well balanced prayer.
So you know, don't worry ever worry about the word command.
Demand is different. I demand you God. That's rude and obnoxious,
but my command is given the invocation of I really
want it doing. Now you know you're putting your power
behind it, and at the end it says, and I

(01:21:52):
thank you God send you my own condition loves. So
if you feel attacked, use this spiritual tap prayer. You
know it's really powerful, and use it in multiples of
three that will really help.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Awesome. Oh, Christopher, thank you so much for coming on
and being a part of this with me. I've thoroughly
enjoyed it. Had so much fun picking your brain and
hearing about your encounter. Thanks man, I've enjoyed it. You
got so much that you bring to the table and
so much that you offer as well. Let people know
where they can go to follow your work, get in

(01:22:24):
on your your healing sessions that you do and and
everything that you bring to the table. Just go ahead
and let everybody know where's the best.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
If you go to Global Enlightenment Project dot com, it's
part of Crystal macklementtries. If you go to Global Project
dot com, if you have a look at the website's
you know, there's meditations to help you, you know, release
like detos the body, different things. The three times a
week is the healing. So it's on the front. You
can actually register on Zoom. You know, we normally have

(01:22:53):
about six hundred people registered, depends who comes online. But
if you're registered for that, you know it's three times
a week. It's by donation. If you have no money,
please again, never shame yourself. I've been there, got the
T shirt on that one. So just come on because
it's going to really help you get back to a
realigned state so that you can, you know, then get
in divine alignments and everything. I'll come flooding in. So yeah,

(01:23:16):
and you know, if you want any healings personally, we
do one to one session, specialized groups, a whole host
of things.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Awesome, Christopher, thank you so much. It's been such a blessing.
And enjoyed it picking your brain and growing deeper on
my journey, like I want to know these things too,
I have questions. Thank you so much for coming on
and hanging out. I'll have to do it again. Thank
you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
Yeah, well just do it again. Thanks for having me.
I really love you guys. Pleasure heart and keep your
good work up. You're doing amazing, amazing than you blessure.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Thank you many blessings. Brother, thank you God, bless all right,
ladies and gentlemen. Christopher macklin. Ah, that was good, really good.
Enjoyed it hearing those experiences I've been listening to is
been listening to him sharing and speaking on other people's
podcast And when you hear about similar experiences and stuff

(01:24:08):
that other people are going through that sound a lot
like yours. It allows you to bring pieces of the
puzzle together. And so man building faith. And I'm reading
here in the chat how people are like, Yeah, your
story encourages me. I'm gonna keep going out. I'm gonna
keep stargates and I'm gonna keep going out until something happens.

(01:24:30):
You know, you have the acronym push pray until something happens.
And so keep at it, Man, keep at it, don't
give up whatever it is that you're believing, for whatever
it is that you believe in. For me, listen, it
changes everything I'm doing, what I'm doing today because of
those early sightings, those early encounters, if you will, with

(01:24:55):
with the seraphim, with the chairbrim, I mean they go
buy many names. You know, there's the angelic aspect of it,
and I think that the you know, the wording is
it's not about the names, but it's really about the
energy and about the encounter. So man shout out to
everybody hanging out with us in chat, I see you guys.
Hopefully next time we will be able to open up

(01:25:17):
the phone lines and get that figured out. We got
a reply here to Stephen Cook all China says, that's
exactly what's going on too. I feel you, my brother.
That's actually happened to me yesterday. As soon as I
was leaving my house about six thirty, I felt their
presence and look up and there's a light ship. I
have a picture of it and I put it up

(01:25:39):
on Facebook. And then the same night when we got home,
there was a huge one above my house. I'm house big,
I'm talking big, but it was there and it moved
slowly and then it vanished, but it stayed above us
for a while, and then I started and then it
started moving slowly and just took off. My wife and
son did see this video. I've been getting people in

(01:26:02):
boxing me with videos lately. I've been which is really cool.
I've never been able to capture them on camera. I've
never been able to pull out my phone when I'm
having an encounter and record it. You know, you have
to be usually what I've tried, but it usually ends yeah, right,

(01:26:22):
you don't have proof by what authority. You haven't seen that.
It's like, listen, my goal is not to prove it
to you. I don't need you to believe in what
I've experienced an encounters. But there's a reason why these
conversations are resonating with people. It's because they've experienced something
very similar. So I don't need to prove to you.

(01:26:44):
I don't need you to agree with me, which I
have to state that because I come from around where
I needed you to like. You know, if the more
people that believe that, the merrier and the more validated
I felt for being crazy or believing something weird. I mean,
that's where I come from. And Christian circles and denominations
we need to convert you to our way of thinking.

(01:27:06):
For me, listen, this is my story. If you resonate
with it, you know, try it, and then you find
out people like, yeah, I've experienced the same thing. I
had nobody to talk to. So let me call into
your podcast. Let me listen to these people's experiences that
are talking about this stuff. So there's a beauty when
you give up your right to be right or to

(01:27:27):
have your narrative be the main narrative as well. So
super good. I love these conversations, and you know, my
mind and imagination race and wonder what it's like and
put myself there. But when you hear those testimonies, obviously,
that's what a testimony is for, because you know, the
scripture says that God is not any respector of persons, like,

(01:27:51):
there's no reason that I could have it and you can't.
When you hear that, my first notion is to run.
There's something we call the Messiah complex where it's only
for us because we are initiated and we're gonna flaunt
it openly. I do believe in initiations, and I do
believe that's a lot of this. These sidings are initiations,

(01:28:16):
and meditation happens. Listen that you know, twenty four hours
of meditation or thirty six out whatever it takes to
you learn and you graduate and you keep showing up.
That's an initiation. Like Christopher said eleven fifty nine at
the midnight hour, he said, listen, I'm gonna stay out here.
People do in stargates and stuff, and they hear these

(01:28:37):
stories and listen to the music. But again, they do
what Christopher said and stay out there for five minutes,
didn't see anything. Man might try again tomorrow, might not.
Maybe it's just not for me. Do you know. I
would stay out there for hours, for hours until I
saw something like days, And it was because watching documentaries.

(01:28:59):
It was it was like what was birthed within me
of seeing people doing it on camera where they actually
did catch it on camera. And so my prayer life
begin to change and I begin to ask for these
sightings and if it's real, because first of all, I
need to know that it's real. It could be people
making stuff up. A bunch of Charlatan's out there tickling
our ears. Right, It's like, listen, this resonates deep down

(01:29:20):
to my core. I'm having dreams about this stuff. I'm
seeing it in the Bible. I'm led to certain documentaries
and stuff. So let me find out for myself. I'm
drawn to this and then to go out and have
the encounter. But I would be out there for hours
on in and show up really early, like four in
the morning. And I worked a job that allowed me

(01:29:40):
to do that. But even when I wasn't working, to
set my alarm at four in the morning, and go
outside and look up, you know, and go out there
and pray, and go out there and meditate. There's a
reason why we talk about the Witching hour, why people
are fully awake at that time. Something's happened and something's
going on. It's up for you to engage that. Or
they've initiated it, they've dropped the breadcrumb, but it's up

(01:30:03):
for you to go out there and say listen. I
want to know more. So, Richie, we got any any
more comments in the chat?

Speaker 6 (01:30:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
One sharing from a SETI experience. Looks like somebody was
Renee Hill experienced a huge ship slowly crossing over the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Wow. Yeah. I almost went to uh E Seti with
my family this past vacation that we did here in
June where we went to Utah and Arizona and we
shot the new music video from my album White Magic
that's about to drop. So if you guys who haven't
seen that video, go to the YouTube channel. The name

(01:30:45):
of the song is Whispers from Eternity by TROUPSI can
make sure you watch that. But we shot that on
vacation and I wanted to go to SETI. I love
James Gillilan, I love his work and the energy and
the spirituality and everything that happens at the SETI ranch,
and I've had them on the podcast twice, so I'm
plugging those episodes too. Go listen to those talks. I
picked this brain early on, like the first episodes, I

(01:31:09):
was freaking out, Hey man, what's going on? And so
there was a hungry young truth seeker back in twenty twelve,
twenty eleven when I had him on. But so I
didn't get to go there just because we couldn't book
it soon enough where we had to you know, book
tickets and stuff. But we did go to Arizona, and
I did get to visit Sedona, and I did get

(01:31:30):
to visit the Energy vortexas and every night outside of
our airbnb or four hours outside of any city in
the middle of Monument Valley, which is where we were
in the video, like we're just seeing just portals, They're
just going like it's just one after another, leaving going

(01:31:52):
into portal ends. I'm just staring at him and asking
for sightings and just let your eyes adjust and you
see him everywhere, and it's just that now at this point, yeah,
I still want to see them, you know it reminds
me of something that, you know, why I got started,
and those beautiful encounters early on and what's possible and
what's out there and uh, and it does stir something

(01:32:13):
up within you and even to let you know that
you're not alone, that you're on the right path and synchronicities.
It's all tied in together. But shoot, Arizona is a
hot spot outside of our airbnb, not even way out
there in Monument Valley, but there were just you can
see so many, so many stars and for those of

(01:32:33):
you who want to see, you know, I would definitely
tell you a caveat. You know, to see things is
actually to go out during or as close to a
new moon as you can where the brightness of the
moon is not there. You can't even really see the
moon maybe the outline, but more stars are illuminated and
you can see more things in the night sky with

(01:32:55):
the naked eyes. You can also watch with night vision goggles,
which is one of the cool things that he said
he does and has made popular. But there's so much
more you see what night vision goggles. But those are like,
you know, three grand for the cheapest pair. So I've
never even been able to use them, but binoculars just

(01:33:19):
hunting binoculars or binoculars that you use for whatever that
you can get at Walmart for fairly cheap. I remember
just walking outside of my porch at four in the
morning looking up and just see stars, and stars are cool.
I love astronomy and astrology and astro theology and all that,
but I'm looking at that. But then I'm like, let

(01:33:39):
me use these binoculars. You put the binoculars on, and
then you see things moving, move the binoculars, just stars,
binoculars on, little things moving, and listen, they go into stars.
The stars are like portals. The stars are beings that
they're going into like it just opens up for so

(01:34:00):
much more. And so we're out in the morning looking
at these stars in the morning and doing the research.
And then you led the books and and uh and
and phrases in the Bible. When synchronicity starts happening about
the morning stars, the morning stars singing forth in their glory,
singing the praises of God in the morning. And then

(01:34:24):
I'm finding celebrity UFO sidings, and then the celebrities are
talking about their their experiences. One in particular was Muhammad
Ali who would jog at three and four in the morning,
wake up really early and go out, and he said
he would see UFOs playing tag in between the stars.

(01:34:44):
And then here I am stargazing seeing the same thing.
You think you're crazy. You know, the stuff hasn't talked
about openly, and when you try to start talking about it,
people kind of back away. Yeah, man, that's demons, bro,
You're you're asking for the demons sightings. And you know,
people are just weird with their theology and what they've
listened to and with garbage that they've put in their head,

(01:35:06):
and they begin to see demons everywhere and they start
to think that that's what it is. And so the
study of seraphim and light beings and fiery serpents in
the Bible that were God's messengers called the Seraphim and
the Cherubim and the Marcabas which are the light light
ships and chariots of fire in the Bible, like, all

(01:35:26):
that stuff started to come become real for me, and
I begin to see it, And so that's available for you.
I'm not any more special that I get to see it.
The only thing I did differently was I showed up
And so if you show up, I believe that you
can have those encounters too if you want to. So
we hold retreats. We go out into fields and we

(01:35:47):
do the energy work and we go out and have sightings,
and it's been beautiful because for me, I don't go
out at four in the morning anymore to try to
make contact I need to, I probably should. But that's
one thing that I look forward to on the retreats
because we're doing the energy work and there's an expectancy.
We do the CE five meditations and then we go

(01:36:07):
out with the collective and we have encounters and so
that's awesome something that I always look forward to on
these retreats, and so mentioning that just go to truth
seeker dot com for those of you who are interested
in being a part of the next retreat coming up
in November with myself and Illuminati Congo Richie Man. Any

(01:36:28):
closing remarks, any more questions, any questions or comments that
you have.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
I think he's been a really excellent conversation. A lot
of individuals connected dots and ideas looking through all the
different jets. So I'm excited to see where the conversation goes.
Excited to see what kind of happens next. Not too
much for me on this one right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Nice nice, well, thank you for doing what you do,
brother and holding down the back end and asking the
having people in here with the questions. So and Richie
has given you guys those links. So anything that I'm
mentioning Richie is is better than young Jamie from the
Joe Rogan podcast. And he's putting those links out there
for anything that we mentioned. So he's putting the James

(01:37:10):
Gillilan links out there too. That the past episodes, man,
I say four hundred and thirty. There's probably more at
this point or around there, but there's a lot of episodes,
and some of those gyms get buried, like some of
those really good early talks with a young, untrained, spiritually
hungry tru seeka that I got to have these people

(01:37:31):
on my show and pick their brain for two three
hours sometimes, you know, Jordan Maxwell, Tricia mccannon listen, y'all,
like for me as a seeker, like listening to four
hours of Coast to Coast AM episodes with the Tricia
mccannon and she's talking about the Great White Brotherhood and
these beings that appear and wearing robes and long beards

(01:37:55):
and stuff like that, and they would interact with her
and teach her and and then and she would say
that non chalantly and go to the next thing. And
I'm like, wait, I want to know more. How do
we contact them? Who are they? How did you figure
it out? What was your first experiences? You know, because
I'm having those encounters too. So I end up going
back and emailing Tricia mccannon after the Coast to Coast

(01:38:20):
to interview, Hey, will you come on my show? I
have a podcast called The Awakening and I would love
to have you on. Love your word blah blah blah. Sure,
So I get to kind of pick up where George
Norrie left off on Coast to Coast and get the
pride and ask those questions that he didn't ask. Wait,
we want details, we want details. And obviously that's one

(01:38:44):
thing that I find that the audience of the Trustika
podcast really enjoys is that we double down on some
of these things and ask these not hard questions, but
the right questions, I would say. So that's been something
that's been amazing because I get those comments every day,
and obviously to a lot of the guests or they
come on this show and they're like, Wow, this is

(01:39:06):
fun because most podcasts or episodes that we do, they're
just like by the book and it's the same questions
every day, every time, and I'm like, hold on, you
said you've seen this ship, what did it look like?
What did it sound like? And so just getting clear
on some of that information. And the guests love it too.
So that's a huge compliment that I've been getting from

(01:39:28):
some of the different guests that we've had on here.
So Eric Hype thirty three says, set your intention with
no judgments, and you are on your way. This is
the way, Yes, it is. This is the way being
able to see that stuff. And I would say, not
any judgments, but gratitude, gratitude, thanksgiving, you know. I sample

(01:39:53):
James Gillilan and some of his interviews in my music
and he recalls in my song A Flight of the
Navigator where they were trying to make contact and nothing
was happening. They're trying to will it to happen. They're
sending thoughts and intentions and care Bear stares out into
the universe and if anything's out there, say hello, please,

(01:40:16):
we want to make contact. And then they don't see anything.
And then finally this little kid just runs up and
breaks the circle of all of these serious people trying
to make contact with the galactic federations and angels and
light beings and all this kind of stuff. And little
kid just runs up and says, hey, mister spaceman and
waves at the sky. And when the little kid does it,

(01:40:37):
out of nowhere, the ships appear. And it took like
the faith and the childlike faith of this little kid
in order to facilitate that experience, And in my mind
immediately goes to well, the Bible says that you have
to become like little children in order to engage in

(01:40:58):
the Kingdom of Heaven, engage in the realms unseen. Why
because the imagination has to be free. You have to
be open to experience such things. So it's huge to
be able to embody that and take that with you
wherever you go. So much beautiful music came out of

(01:41:20):
it for me, many beautiful conversations documentaries that we've worked on.
And once you open that portal, it's a good portal, right,
you get to name it, you pick it with your intention,
and then you start to see other things. You start
to be a conduit for love and of light and

(01:41:41):
of the beauty of God and all creation, and that
stuff just begins to pour through you. And so people
will call it channeling.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
I remember even yesterday, I know I'm plugging and talking
about my music. I don't do it a lot, you
know what I'm saying. I love the podcast and the
music is there for those who want to check it out.
But I was listening. I have a CD that is
stuck in my CD player in my car, and its
colors my album. I put it in to listen to
it when it first came out, and I just got
it in the mail and then it won't it won't eject.

(01:42:11):
So it's either the radio or that. So yesterday I
was I was driving and UH on the intersetate and
I put Colors in and I listened to it from
start to finish, and like I'm getting ministered to from
my music, like these phrases and these things that that
that came through me. You know, your music's awsome. I

(01:42:32):
love you like I'm a conduit, but man, I just
it's it's something that that that that I get to
benefit from myself because I wrote that no way, it's
no way. Am I that good?

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
I don't. I don't think I am. Yes, you are,
You're that No. Like to write art, poetry, create something
beautiful and then to go back and it be able
to lift your spirit later of what's possible and and
something that didn't exist now exists to raise the vibrational
frequency of whoever listens to it, even me, because like
the more that you listen to something, it's like I

(01:43:07):
played out, I created it, I'm mixing in and master
in and all that stuff, and so a lot of times,
you know, it's monotonous. So I don't want to hear
this stuff when it comes out. Yeah, I've heard it
a thousand times. And my wife used to joke because
back in the day when my studio was in the
living room, we would listen to this stuff and mix
it and she would just hear the songs all day too,

(01:43:29):
And so it's yeah, the songs are played out. But
to be able to revisit some of your work when
you need to, and it's like it's an upgrade. It
is a word of encouragement. Creativity. Man, I am super
privileged to be a conduit of such energy, and I
want to continue to do that in everything that I

(01:43:49):
bring to the table. If we do a guided meditation,
if we do a prayer session, even in the midst
of a conversation with whoever it is, to be mindful,
to be tactful, to have your conversation seasoned with salt,
to know that there's people listening who need hope. There's
people listening who who are believing for the miraculous. There's

(01:44:13):
people who are sick and hurting in their bodies. And
how can we speak healing in the midst of a
conversation and not even have to do a whole prayer
or listen to this meditation, or even listen to this song.
But you can listen to the voice because the voice
is light, and it is love, and there is intention.
When we speak. All of this is coming from the heart.

(01:44:34):
It's through the intellect and through the heart. But when
the mouth connects it with the vocal vocal cards, we
begin to create it as we speak it light, love, healing, expectation,
everything that comes to the table in the midst of
a conversation. And Renee Hill here to hear it. She's
mentioned in my book Enjoygia book Just read it a

(01:44:56):
couple of weeks ago. Thank you. I will say that
one of the concepts in the book is the notion
of what I call casting out demons through conversation, just
by answering questions and exposing lies, not combatively, but just
simply sharing truth that sets the captives free. That's what

(01:45:19):
it's about, guys, and so I'm mindful of that, I'm
tactful of that. Thank you guys for believing in my work.
Thank you guys for partnering with me on Patreon, buying
my music, my album listen, every little bit helps. And
for those of you who can't support financially sharing episodes,
tagging me using my music in tiktoks like listen, all

(01:45:39):
of it. Everything. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
It is amazing. It's letting me know that this stuff
is not falling upon death ears and that when the
word leaves, it will go out and do the thing
that it was designed to do, and that's the blessed people.
That's to take you to greater levels, that's to open
your faith and uh and it's working. So thank you

(01:46:02):
guys for returning the favor. I would say, by whatever
modality and whatever way it is that you interact with
this podcast and with this great work that that I've
been entrusted with, And uh, it is no no small feat.
And everybody, I see everything you know, I I Google,
I search, I look at I look my name up

(01:46:22):
on TikTok, and I find people meditating to my music
and uh Instagram and dude everything And to see it working,
my god, there's no greater, no greater joy for me
as a as a creator to be able to do
that and to be able to know that it's helping people.
So thank you, guys for everything. Partnering, sharing, retweeting, being creative,

(01:46:44):
taking that creativity to the next level, being inspired to
go stargazing, being inspired to start your own podcast, being
inspired to create your own rap album, all of it,
all of it, all of it, all of it. And
I do think that everything comes full circle and that
we can we can reach more people together than we
can by ourselves. So with that being said, man, thank

(01:47:06):
you guys for for being here so much available check
out my Patreon. Tonight is the School of the Mystics.
We're gonna tap into some prayer, some meditation, some breath work,
and we're just gonna hang out and have discussion with
like minded individuals and creators. So if you're looking for
community and you want to talk to me and people

(01:47:26):
in the community, and Richie and Sion and Adam Starceed
many of the people who are in chat right now.
They are part of that Mystic circle as well and
the School of the Mystics, So make sure you check
it out Patreon dot com. Backslash Truth SEEKA Love and
light to each in every one of you. Thank you'
all for the beautiful comments and and all that good stuff.
With that, with the peace, We're gonna do it again

(01:47:48):
very soon. Shallow peace, so much, so.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
Much.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Well, that does it for this episode.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
Folks.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
To hear more episodes of the Truth Seca podcast, head
over to truththeca dot com and if you're wanting to
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