Laura Eisenhower Exposes the Secret Space Program and the Eisenhower UFO Legacy

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a good one. My guest today, I've been following her
work for some time now. She is the great granddaughter
of President Dwight Eisenhower. And without further ado, Laura Eisenhower,

(04:20):
Welcome to the Trusika Podcast. How are you.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I'm great? How are you, Derek.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm doing really good. Been looking forward to this interview
for a while and glad we finally got the chance
to connect.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, I am too. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
If I was to try to introduce you, like I
could read a bio, you know, for people who haven't
heard of you, you can read the bio. But there's
so much that you bring to the table. I was
in discord with my community a little while ago, and
it's like, well, what does she do? Who is she?
It's like, well, there's a lot. There's a lot we
can get into. We can get into the off world
entity stuff, we can get into aliens, we can get
into spirituality, we can get into crystals, astrology, so much stuff.

(05:01):
So it's kind of hard to kind of tell your
story or what you bring to the table because it's
a little bit of everything. I think you're very eclectic.
But I told my friends straight up, I was like, well,
she's pretty much a hippie at heart. So it's going
to be a good conversation. We're going to get into
some good discussion here. So for those who don't know
who you are, if you want to kind of give
a little bit of background about who you are, what

(05:21):
you bring to the table, that'd be an awesome place
to start.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I think you mentioned just the Eisenhower connection. He's
my great grandfather, and so just since I was young,
I was always wondering how I ended up in this family,
and so I was always processing everything about kind of
his administration. But I mean that was kind of a
something that I ended up integrating into just a deeper

(05:45):
soul journey that has to do with moving this planetary
consciousness and humanity into ascension along with a lot of
other people. Of course, I mean it's encoded in all
of our DNA to do this. So it's really about
how can I help remind humans what they're really made of,
how to be sovereign and you know what is operating

(06:08):
on the world stage that is compromising us. You know
the different hidden agendas. You know we hear about conspiracy stuff.
I've been studying that kind of stuff forever and how
does that relate to like who we are and what
our potential is. So I've just been an avid researcher,
my backgrounds in wilderness expedition leadership. But like I said,

(06:30):
since I was a kid, I was just really processing
all the time just this mission that I have, and
it really has to do with healing the earth grids,
getting things out of reversals, you know, breaking free of
the controls, the social engineering, the mind control, multi generational
traumas connected to different world wars that have been fought,

(06:51):
and things in our ancient history like the Atlantean Cataclysm,
the Lamerian Holocaust, and then everything before that, like the
Lyrin Wars, the Orion Wars, and the exploded planets of
like Tiamata Maldex. So I got into a lot of
galactic history. And then my day job is I'm an
astrologer and I do readings for people. You can find
that on my website Cosmicgaia dot org. And yeah, I've

(07:14):
just been trying to figure it all out, like what
is going on here? What was going on in his administration,
which was pretty wild because he's a president that had
a lot of contact and a lot of things were
hidden from US since the Second World War, and there
was an infiltration of the Nazis through Project paper Clip,
and so all these mind control projects and all sorts

(07:35):
of stuff ended up coming into the United States and
secret space programs, infiltration of the defense departments. So in
two thousand and six, I was involved in a recruitment
to go off planet that related to that stuff. And
I blew the whistle in twenty ten and began to
be a public person. But it was mostly surrounding this
recruitment that I went through that you can google and

(07:56):
there's plenty of information of that, but that's what really
got me more into the public arena. But then I
was able to bring in all this other stuff and
all this other research in my greater mission, which it
all you know, connects into. So that's it, kind of
in a nutshell.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
The recruitment for something like that. And this was just
something that kind of came to mind while I was
stargazing a couple of months ago during the New Moon.
We had a big CE five thing that we did
on our site, and the information came to me. We
were seeing all these ships, man, all of this stuff
out there, and you know, you got to think about
the disconnect of like taking someone who has a regular job,

(08:35):
a family and things like that and just putting them
out there disconnected and telling them this type of narrative,
or like trying to change the narrative of what's really
going on. The space wars, the star wars, all of
this kind of stuff, it almost seems, and I know
there's stuff about this as well, where like you would
kind of have to be born into that, so that

(08:57):
doing even some of the evil stuff that the government
is doing to humans on the planet, like some of
the abductions and the my labs and stuff like that,
it would seem like there would be some type of
disconnect of people would have to they would have to
nurse someone into that as they were born into it,
taking them as children were like where do you give

(09:19):
off the the inhibition? Where does that go to? Like, Okay,
I'm leaving my family, I'm leaving everything I know to
head to the stars and like be okay with that
and not feel depressed or mis earth or something like that.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah. Well, I know a lot of people that have
been yanked into projects at a very young age. My
recruitment was different. It was just more I mean I
was never in those projects or programs growing up. It
was more I was pre targeted before birth, supposedly to
steer me onto a timeline that to me like a
New World Order timeline. You know, why would we evacuate
Earth and colonize Mars and keep humanity in the dark

(09:57):
and use their tax dollars and have all these little
black ops. Well, big black ops projects going on in
order to establish this and what happened to the surface
population on Earth, and why are we evacuating if there's superstorms,
if there's cataclysms, Well there's things like harp technologies, and
we've got you know, the weather modification agendas. These could
be all induced and artificials. So I started to get

(10:19):
in touch with that, even though I didn't have all
the research and information while I was going through it,
you know, trying to make a decision, because they were
just really like inviting me and trying to convince me
that it was for this leadership role and I needed
to go and it was for my protection, and I
was like, something's not right here. So the group that
was connected to it, I did a lot of research
on and now you can find a lot of the

(10:40):
stuff that I was feeling into on websites. They're called
the Aviary and they're associated with my labs, gang Stocking,
psychotronic weaponry, mind control. But they did that to my
partner who tried to pull me in. He was like
their my lab or. He was there the person to

(11:01):
control to approach me, to try and convince me to go,
because he had been dragged in at an early age.
I somehow, you know, missed all that. I think a
lot of it is multi generational. I think it's in
the family. If you're in a military family, if you're
associated with the Illuminati, if if you're in those bloodlines,
you're definitely targeted, you're definitely used. You're not going to
have a normal life. And so I saw this invitation

(11:24):
as an opportunity to blow the lid off these hidden
agendas because I haven't been again, I haven't been in
you know, a my lap situation. But you know, Corey
Good's a good friend of mine. He was brought in
at the age of six. I do readings and sessions
for people that.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
You know, have.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Gone through all that. A lot of times there's multi
generational or trauma based mind control. So you have altars
and when you go and serve, you're not really I mean,
you've been programmed to play this particular part. And then
there's the twenty in back where they actually age reverse
you and it's like you never went I mean, it's
so complex. Supposedly some of them were up there for

(12:02):
seventeen years or twenty years and age regressed like only
five minutes went by, and it's crazy, and it's really
hard for anybody to wrap their head around unless you've
met enough people and you've seen enough accounts and you've
heard enough stories to begin to say, all right, maybe
this is really true. The reason it was easy for
me to say no to going to Mars is because
I wasn't groomed. I had no inclination except I knew

(12:26):
since I was a kid that I had a mission
here with Gaya, and so they just tried to convince
me that the mission had to be on Mars, and oh,
will take care of that later. But none of the
recruiters wanted to talk to me directly, and that was
a big red flag for me. So all I could
do is follow emails and write down all the names
that my partner was talking about, you know, which had
They all had cover careers, and finally I found the

(12:50):
dirt on them and they were connected to all this
other stuff. But yeah, it's very complex. So you've got
the ones that they're trying to just manipulate the human
race that they're trying to control and steer into an
artificial timeline, and then you have the more concentrated versions
of people that are being engineered to be super soldiers,
genetically modified to be hybrids or be in breeding programs,

(13:12):
and I've never experienced anything like that. My only thing
was the targeting to get me onto this timeline.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
We've been kind of discussing that on the past couple
episodes when regarding the shadow people and the men with
the top hats and the shadow beings and sleep paralysis
and things like that. A lot of people have had
that happen to them when they were little kids. You
wake up and there's entities in the room being pinned
down to the bed. I've had it happen, and the
more you talk about it, the more people feel comfortable

(13:43):
and open with it. But something that changed their life
when they were man anywhere from four years old to
like ten years old, having these crazy encounters in the
middle of the night. And we've just been exploring the
idea of like it's almost seems like the people who
are having this thing happened to them are people who
were destined to kind of be healers, to bring light

(14:05):
and healing to the earth, and almost like they're targeted
as a child to stay away from spirituality or to
be stay away from tapping into other realms because there's
these monsters there, or there's these dark entities waiting for
you to cross over. Is there any connection there was
that something that is like whether it's done spiritually by

(14:28):
just offworld entities or some kind of government program where
they know who these people are born into certain families
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, I mean I think they can really track souls,
and even Alishair Crowley DIDs sort of rituals where you
could capture a soul. That's why they call it monarch
program because it's like catching it with the nets and
bringing it into sort of a ritual setting so that
it's born right into this scenario and then programmed or abused.
I mean, I've had clients that were born into it

(14:58):
and were dragged in later by some family member that
was really sick and twisted that did all this experimentation
on them, put them through all these different trials and tribulations,
and sometimes they're just watching and observing the effects that
some of these experiments have, you know, especially if it's
an advanced child that knows how to heal instantly, like

(15:18):
you can burn it and they can heal their skin.
So they're trying to understand how does some be able
to do this? And then you have other scenarios. I
mean there's so many multiple scenarios. Then you know it's
like all these implants, you know, abduction scenarios where there's
implants so that you're getting artificial telepathy or signals that
are going to impede your spiritual growth. There are implants

(15:40):
that we all carry from Atlantean times that are ethereal
implants that are supposedly at the base of our skull,
which I've seen doing readings to keep us from moving
into our galactic chakras, so that we keep looping and
reincarnating sort of in this trap and this three D trap.
You know, there's the off planet abduction scenarios and the

(16:01):
military involvement that can create false memories so that a
person thinks that they're having an abduction, but it's not
really an abduction. It's just a military thing. They can
actually clone or engineered beings to represent what would seem
to be real aliens, but they're not. And then people
have real encounters, and they know track those people to
wipe their memories to give them a different experience so

(16:24):
that they don't remember the contact that they had with
a higher benevolent being, you know, because there's a lot
of people that are connected to these higher councils or
these higher et groups that they're tracking so that they
don't remember those experiences, so that they don't advance as
a spiritual being. And then of course we have weather modification,

(16:44):
we have florid in our water, we have GMOs and
vaccinations and everything that we see being done to the
human population, so you know, it's a mass targeting of
the human population. But then yes, there's people of interest
or people that are threats or so that they recognize
as high vibrational beings that you know, are going to

(17:04):
be messed with, and it usually does start in childhood. Yeah, mine,
mine was mostly weaponry. I don't have I've had a
few contact experience. They seem to be of a sort
of a higher nature, and I did a little bit
of regression to see if you know, anything else happened.
But I think for the most part, it's really rampant
and widespread, and that's why it's so important to talk

(17:24):
about it into going crystal kids, you know, advanced children
being born, you know, and that's also what we see
in school systems with you know, the prescription drugs that
they're pushing on people. So this is a time for
us to really wake up and recognize what's going on.
Pedophilia rings are being busted, Hollywood pedophilia is being busted,
political crimes, and you know, child trafficking, pedophilia rampant everywhere

(17:50):
being busted. So this is a real chance to begin
to neutralize some of this weaponry and some of these
implants because we're beginning to see beyond the programming. Most
of those implants and most of those assaults is to
keep us locked into the trans and once we can
see above that, we actually can easily neutralize these things
because our higher frequency and higher dimensions it has way

(18:11):
more power over these lower frequency devices that they use
and technologies that they use, because basically it's a frequency worn.
If we can get our attention above that, you know,
it sort of fries it and it dismantles it.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
When we look at like Hollywood and stuff. I remember
like all of the movies when I was a kid,
firing the sky. I mean that's the big one, but
there were so many of them about on these TV
shows taken about these aliens are going to come and
abduct you, take you off planet and kidnap you, beat
you up, and maybe never bring you back. There was
always a fear there, but there was always a fascination
there for me when I was a kid. So when

(18:48):
I got into the spiritual work and then got into
seeing lightships and making contact and things like that, it
was always there in the back of my head that
you better be careful, they may come get you. So
it's like something that they're trying to push out there
to create fear in hysteria within that community, so that
when you see these lights in the sky, when you

(19:09):
see these cloud ships or whatever they are, you won't
try to shine a flashlight at it, you won't try
to make you blink your head lights at it and
try to make contact. That you'll be afraid. And so
even some of the most beautiful encounters, when it comes
down to it, there's still like this fear that we
have to get over there. There's so many people who
are still afraid of it. They want it, but the

(19:30):
fear is there from all of these movies, the Fourth
Kind and all of the stuff that's just been pushed
out there through Hollywood, is that part of the agenda
to kind of keep us away from making contact.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I think it's also a weird form of disclosure. It's like,
I mean, we have a mixed bag here where there's
definitely dark agendas. There's you know, there's beings that are
trying to heal themselves. They consider themselves a dying race.
They're digressing. They use technologies to keep their life cycle alive.
They need humans to help them. They need to take

(20:02):
our genetic information because in a way, there are future
human selves that made choices that cause digression. So there's
sort of this thing going on. But when they represent
its way scarier than it actually is, it can I
think create a lot more fear. Absolutely, But I think
everybody's kind of going to have different experiences. I've done

(20:23):
readings with people that have had hostile gray abductions and
ones that just say it was a peaceful, wonderful experience.
The thing is they can implant memories too, So I mean,
I like to expose the whole deal. I mean, there
are things to be concerned about, there's things that we
need to do to protect ourselves. But when those are
the only messages we're getting and we don't see the

(20:44):
larger picture, which is that there's way more benevolent beings
out there than not. Then I think we just close
ourselves off completely, or we might just look at it
all as just sci fi fantasy or just some sort
of Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I mean, well they get the sci fi fantasy from somewhere,
like that's not original material. Everything we see like in
Star Wars and all of that kind of stuff, they
take that from the ancient text and what's actually going on,
it's all encoded. They're just kind of they're almost just
like plagiarizing this stuff. You know.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Well, that's the thing. It's like religion. You can take
stories that once existed and shift them and twist them
so that when we're trying to get or gain our
galactic memories again, we're referring to a movie we saw
instead of what's really authentic within ourselves. And that's the
thing with.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Anything like it can help too, though, right.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
It can, it can, but one has to be sovereign
enough and have enough downtime away from the movies and
away from the electronics to be able to really think
for the self, because if it's just constantly being in
that trance, it doesn't give us enough time to kind
of meditate on what actually exists within us, you know,
where we can capture our own soul journey and the
beings that we used to associate with and the ones
that we used to work with. Because normally we're not

(22:02):
going to have an experience unless there's some sort of agreement,
unless we're connected somehow to that group, unless we need
to experience it in order in order to overcome it.
Because light workers or warrior spirits tend to come in
to take on the challenges and the difficults, the difficulties

(22:22):
in order to rise above it to help the rest
of humanity. It's very hard to be a warrior without
getting immersed in the darkest of things that are happening.
How else can we help people to wake up? So
I think some I think some people, some people, some
people experience break the programming of it to invite other
people to recover, because there's millions of abductees. But some

(22:43):
are able to be conscious of what's happening. They're able
to recall, they're able to remember, they're able to see
beyond it, they're able to get to the other side.
Most of the negative, I would say is military connected,
manipulated the reptilian aspect. Now, that would probably be the
most aggressive race when we're talking to there go reptilians,
But that's like something that's playing on bloodlines in order

(23:08):
to try and do humanity. So it's just really up
to us to not fall into the program. Otherwise, I
don't think they can really touch us. I mean, they
can have the artificial intelligence and manipulate, and yes they
use different beings to create certain abduction scenarios, but we
have to remember the military component and just keep our

(23:28):
minds open. I mean, I can't say I have all
the answers. I'm still always trying of sorted out. But
all I know is there's far more benevolent races. They're
helping us with this ascension. They're guardian host races of
this ascension. The ascension moved in twenty ten from the
Malchisa deck hosting to the Andromedin more goddess energies of

(23:49):
the Earth that got grounded back into the Earth Crystal
Star hosting the Aurora and all these Andromedin groups. Because
really this ascension window is the galactic core of Milky
and Andromeda being one again. So we're starting to be
able to activate our higher chakras, so anything that's been
negative or nefarious doesn't hold much of a chance. So yeah,

(24:12):
it's hard. I mean, I think Hollywood shows certain truths
that are important because there are negative races, there's positive races,
just like humans, there's criminals and there's good people. But
there's always going to be a twist to it that
you know, dramaticizes it or makes it difficult to get

(24:32):
you know, the real facts. And sometimes you know, there's
total disclosure. That's because in the illuminatis mind, they want
everything to be hidden in plain sight so that they
don't have the karmic backlash. You know, that's why they
use people. If they can get other people to do
their dirty work, then the people doing their dirty work
have to pay the karmic debt, not them. That's their belief.

(24:53):
But that's not true because the level of abuse that
they perpetuate on people. But that's a whole nother story
and kind of like how to process that one, I
don't know, But yeah, I mean the movie industry is
filled with pedophilias too, and pedophilia and it's just kind
of a mind control thing. And but again, just like

(25:15):
with anything, there's stuff coming out of the woodworks that
we see in movies that that give us a glimpse
of what truth is, and then our job is to
go back meditate on it and and find the authenticity
within ourselves of what that really means.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
When it comes to comes to getting no crazy feedback
right now, I don't know if you're speak louder if
it's out, can you not hear me?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well, I can hear me when I talk. Check check
one two two, Okay. I think that's better when it
when it comes to the abduction scenarios, that's something that
from my studies and from what I've seen as of lately,
like it's kind of being phased out. I know, you
talk to a lot more people than I do. You
may have more info on this, But as far as

(26:02):
like aliens appearing in your room, taking you and doing
all of these experiments on you and things like that,
like the fire and the sky type stuff or whatever,
I really haven't heard much about that or seen stuff
about that since like the early nineties and eighties and stuff,
and so like what I'm hearing now, when someone has
an encounter, it's more, you know, they don't really call

(26:25):
themselves abductees they call themselves contact these or experiencers as well,
and they almost welcome the contact as well. Are you
seeing that at all or is the abduction thing still
going on? I mean I talked to James Giller then
and he said that was, you know, kind of being
phased out.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Seems like it's being phased out. I mean, I still
have clients to talk about it, or I've had recent experiences.
They're still getting over some of their experiences. I Mean,
the thing is that I hate to say, is a
lot of it was a breeding thing, a breeding program.
They might have everything that they need, they don't need
to do anymore. I mean there's underground bases, there's you know,
filled with the results of some of these abductions and

(27:05):
things going on off planet. Same thing again, there's a
huge military component to it.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean some of the things that I'm getting a
lot of harassment, a lot of targeting more. I think
we're starting to see the military part of it and
the manipulation of it, you know, coming out a little
bit more. Uh. You know, there's there's different levels of
this breeding program where some are just willingly just creating

(27:36):
hybrid babies, and some that feel like they've been completely violated,
And I almost think it depends on the agreements in
the person and what they can and cannot handle, or
what they're remembering or not remembering. But I do think
it's phasing out and there's a lot more positive contact.
Even Travis Walton said that the way they depicted his
encounter in the movie was not accurate. They made it
a lot scarier than it actually was. So yeah, I mean,

(28:02):
there's interesting things that I'm hearing, but I wouldn't say
that I'm getting a whole lot of clients that speak
about current stuff, So I totally agree with that. When
I first started to do readings, it was very much
about what was currently happening, like a person might have
just had an experience. A lot of my friends that
have had who are experiencers don't really have them anymore.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
So yeah, that's awesome that you say that everybody has
something encoded within their DNA to bring forth to help humanity,
Like it's all there. Because like I was doing personal
sessions with people for a while, and everyone that came
to me wanted to be a healer, like they wanted

(28:45):
to do that or profession they wanted to get out
of their nine to five and do their passion. They
wanted to essentially do what I was doing. And you know,
the message that I got from the spirit was heal
the healers. Everyone who's coming to you is going to
be a healer. Heal the healers, to send them out
and go forth and bring healing to the nations essentially,

(29:07):
And I'm seeing this in everyone. So whenever you said that,
it's more of just like, instead of thinking it's only
a few chosen people to everyone has that within them
that they can, you know, take the path of the
Jedi versus the Sith or whatever. It's like this path
that we have to choose, and it's throughout all religion,

(29:28):
it's throughout the Hero's journey, it's throughout you know, the
Egyptian mysteries and things like that, that you have to
make these choices to become that person. Uh, if you're
going to be good or bad, essentially you're going to
bring love and light or service to others or service
to self or whatever. It's that choice that we have
to make. What are some of the things that you

(29:51):
think people can do to kind of lean more to
the path of the good versus evil, whether it's tapped
and in through spirituality, being mindful, breath work, crystal energy,
just healing themselves, trauma regression, things like that to kind
of get to kind of heal themselves so that they

(30:12):
can bring healing to others.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Wow, that was all really well put too.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, I mean we all have the potential of twelve
strand DNA and beyond. We're floating in the lower lower
levels of our DNA expression. That's why people call it
a three D earth because on a DNA level, we're
not vibrating much higher because it's a program. It's a
three D program. Many of us are beyond that though
our consciousness is beyond it. But to bring it into
the physical, the physical needs to upgrade. So we need
to integrate. We need to integrate higher awareness into our

(30:41):
physical reality. We can't just go back and forth between Okay,
you know, we have these insights and epiphanies and awarenesses,
but then we're living a life that contradicts it. We
don't like our job, We're serving something that does not
really help humanity. We're in toxic relationships, we might be
stuck in addiction. So we have to really look at
how can we integrate this higher awareness into our physical

(31:02):
reality in order to heal the physical And that's a
clearing of the root chakra. You know, This whole bouncing
back and forth between higher and lower self needs to stop.
We need to integrate polarity. We need to bring balance
to the masculine feminine. We need to bring the light
and dark together, because the real dark is like the soil,
it's like the womb. And then the higher light are
like seeds and we plant them in the soil and

(31:22):
it grows new life and we become manifestors and co
creators of our reality. So we have to keep our
creative channels clear by setting strong intentions for ourselves, making
agreements with ourself this is what I devote to, this
is what I want, This is who I want to
be in the world. And then we start to encode
our creative energies with things that will help us with synchronicities.
It'll help to guide us towards the healing modalities that

(31:44):
are really in resonance with us. It will help us
to find the people that support our journey. The problem
is people make it about God or Lucifer or the
you know, people are making choices based on something external. Oh,
I don't believe in God, and you know, religion is
screwed up God, and so therefore I'm going to turn
to the dark side. Or it's just like forget it.
It's like be sovereign, connect to the zero point energy,

(32:06):
connect to source. It doesn't have to be about the
religions and what religion has done, because there's imposters, they're
not real.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
They create like in the UFO community, right, they're doing
you know, they're trying to change the scenario or change
the narrative, and they're taking something that I believe is good,
I believe it's beautiful or started out that way, and
they're trying to change the narrative a little bit so
that when you whenever you think about it, you're going
back to the trauma and the preconceived notion. Whether it's religion,

(32:37):
whether it's aliens, whether it's all men or pigs, all
men or jerks. So whatever the case is, you have
this preconceived idea that's not true. You know, they change
the narrative.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
On you, right, and then that creates rebellion or well,
I'm going to go to that side. Then it's like
Why do you have to go to any side? Why
can't you find that inner balance and the source within
yourself and the divine blueprint within yourself and just be
somebody that just doesn't need any of it. You know,
we have light and dark within us, but how can
we integrate in and manage it and drop the need
to join a cult, join a group, find you know.

(33:10):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with community and this and that,
but when it's based on belief systems that ask you
to do something because something else didn't work or you're
angry at something else, then you're not really in your
heart center. You're not really activating your DNA at all. Instead,
you're feeding some deity or some Satanic network or something

(33:32):
you know that is compromising humanity just out of some
level of victimhood or anger because you don't like religion.
It's like, hey, I don't resonate with religion at all,
but it doesn't mean I'm not going to be a
spiritual being. Nobody needs to join the dark side or
the side of like, join yourself, integrate both polarities. You know,
stand in your truth, allow yourself to be human. You know,

(33:53):
when anger comes up, look at it. Ask it what
it wants. Turn it into your passion, because that's where
your mission is. If you feel depression, ask yourself where's
that coming from. It might reveal to you what your
deeper soul longing is. You know, Oh, well, I'm looking
for love or I need this, or I'm sad about
that I didn't like the way I was raised. Well,
you know, there's spiritual community, there's connecting to the Earth,

(34:15):
there's connecting to the internal mother Father. There's ways to
take the things that we struggle with and flip it over.
That's the whole thing with correcting reversals, correcting the elementals
that have been in reversal mode where we haven't had
connection with the ether because that was all manipulated. The
earth grids have been manipulated, and everything has been put

(34:36):
in dark reversals, so that our elemental energy, earth, air,
fire water has been contaminated. Our earth energy is degraded
and become depleted. Our fire energy is turned into like
anger and rage or abuse. Our water energy is turned
into murky, contaminated depression. I'm saying that that's what they want.

(34:57):
Our air quality is like you know, chemtrail's mind. Can
all these things being emitted from cell towers in our phones,
and we have to look at those elements and get
them back and purify them with spirit. And it doesn't
have to be a religious thing. I mean, it's our
birth right. We have direct connection with this in our DNA,
and then we purify the elements, and then we recognize

(35:17):
our water energy is psychic and clear, and like the
healing waters, you know, our ability to have compassion and empathy.
Our earth energy starts to regenerate. We start to advance
our human vessel. We're able to move from carbon based
to crystalline. We heal the fire elements, we step into
our passion. We feel motivated again, and we heal the

(35:38):
air and we get rid of the mind control. We
can become free thinkers again. So we're all sort of
purifying our inner elements, and then the Earth is going
to respond to us. And that's how we clean the oceans,
that's how we clean the sky. That's how we help
the earth to regenerate by taking upon ourselves to be
the example. And then we start to shift into higher
earth energies. But it's based on our DNA activating because
our DNA holds the harmonic universe and the higher dimensions.

(36:01):
So when we start to switch on the strands, we
actually start to experience a higher Earth, you know. And
it's not about floating away. It's a very grounded experience
because the activations come from the core center of the
Earth and from above. But it's the sole architecture, and
it's also the energetic energies that we carry already within ourselves.

(36:23):
We're a replica of it all. We're a replica of
the multi dimensional cosmos, the Earth grids, and the stargates.
We're not separate from that. The programming and the mind
control has separated us from it. That's why artificial timelines
can steer people off that path, because it disconnects us
from nature, it disconnects us from spirit. Because this war

(36:45):
within religions, you know, this competition is conquer and divide
agenda to keep us separate, you know, and then these
belief systems that come out of it where we're like
blaming each other or ancestors for these wars. But it
was all set up so that in this window period
we would not be able to come together, because this
was the crucial window period that they've been preparing for,
just as much as people like us have been preparing

(37:07):
too for lifetimes.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
That's good man, You said a mouthful, definitely talking about
the depression and stuff. And I felt that coming for me.
Next month I would be one year into doing this
full time, doing this in my music. And what I
felt before going into that, I was on a cusp
of something. I was on a precipice of something happening.
But there was depression kicking in. There was autopilot, there

(37:33):
was I was just on default because I wanted more
than anything, beginning to get envious of seeing other people
doing what they loved for a living. And there was
depression and all of this stuff. And I don't care
what it was. I don't care. Like I have friends
who are tattoo artists, but they wake up and love
what they're doing. My wife goes gets up every morning
and goes work out in the heat, but she works

(37:54):
with horses and disabled children. She loves what she's doing.
She's bringing healing the humanity, you know, and all of
these people are doing what they were put here to do.
And that depression and the disease that you're feeling within
that it's an indicator that you need to find out
what's the root of that, what's causing that? Working at

(38:16):
a dead end job, building someone else's dream and doing
that and so that right there, man, just the beautiful
energy to be around someone who loves what they're doing
or they they know who they are and they know
why they're here. I don't care what you're doing. I
don't care if you're a doctor, a lawyer, whatever it
is that you love and you thrive doing it and

(38:37):
it makes your heart tick that that's that's beautiful. And
so I'm about a year in just doing this full
time now and I've shifted so much so and I
try to coach people on how to how to do that,
follow that voice, get that dream, uh and and and
and how to how to make it manifest. There's a
there's several comments here in the comment section. People are

(39:00):
wanting some information on the blood types. There's a lot
of stuff out there coming out about the blood types
about you know, certain blood types being not from Earth,
being from other planets type oh negative, I think it is.
They're saying it's not from Earth. And even when it
comes to diet, diet has been a tricky one when
it comes to the blood types, as well, everyone trying

(39:22):
to push this is the way to eat, This is
the only this is the model on how to eat.
But there's a lot of research now it's showing that
certain blood types need other things in their diet to
function properly. But as far as the blood types, and
because people are like, okay, I'm oh negative, Am I
from another planet? Who am I? You know what I'm saying,

(39:42):
So people are wanting some more information on that. Talk
a little bit about what you know about the different
blood types.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I might not answer this very well. So I
used to do a lot of research on it. There's
a lot of contradictory information, and then you know, just
tapping into my own intuition about it. I mean, I
think a lot of it has to do with just
your soul history. And if you think about it, I
came in as a Caucasian whatever, right, But it doesn't
mean I didn't have lifetimes where I was African American

(40:10):
or Native American or some other race. Right. So just
because I came in in this form and this body
doesn't completely give my soul history as far as what
my form has been. And I think the same thing
can go like blood type I know it's a little
bit different. I think it has more to do with
what you've grown accustomed to and what your blood has become.

(40:31):
If you've incarnated on the Earth for a really really
long time, or if you're kind of tracking back to
a previous lifetime where you're on Earth but was off
planet for a while, you know, based on the frequency
that you came in and chose to carry, you're gonna
have that blood type. Everybody has galactic et DNA. But

(40:54):
what are the conditions of our past lives and our
past experience set is going to give us, you know,
that imprint. So like when reading past lives and stuff,
you know people you know are from all over the place.
But when you look at an astrology chart, the south
note gives us an idea of the maybe like the
themes of the last past five lifetimes, you know, the

(41:16):
things that you've sort of repeated, the patterns that you've
repeated for quite some time that you come in with.
That's an energy signature. Then your north note is where
do you need to take it in order to evolve
in order to do what you came here to do.
So everybody's gonna have a different south node it's gonna
have different conditions. But just because their last five lifetimes
was like that doesn't mean that the ten before it

(41:37):
weren't drastically different. So just because somebody has O negative
in this lifetime doesn't mean that they didn't experience an
Earth blood type. You know, that grounded them much more
to the Earth. Maybe they left for a while and
their last five lifetimes they were off planet and it
morphed their blood into like an O negative. I mean,
that's kind of a theory, right, I have no proof
on that, But what I'm thinking is nothing's really fixed

(41:59):
when it comes to us. We need to have all
different sorts of experiences so that we can step into
our multidimensional awareness. You know, we might have BE positive
and you know, have that nomadic type blood that requires
this kind of food in a past like, but in
this lifetime, because we are all planet for a while,
maybe you know quite a while, you know, we've changed.

(42:19):
I mean, if we can change physical form and be
different genders throughout our lifetimes. We've been men, we've been women.
We've been animals, probably dolphins, you know, we've been maybe
even an elemental or a fairy or in Middle Earth,
you know or you know, Gandolf himself, I don't know.
You know, it's we've been all these different things and
everybody's so unique, like a snowflake. There's no real uh

(42:41):
I think general way that one can put it. But
I would say that just because you came in with
a particular blood site doesn't mean that's the only thing
you've ever carried throughout your history. Then there's the blue
blood factor, how much copper is in your blood? You know,
what is the consistency of your blood based on who
you were born into. Some people are going to be
born into families where you know, you might be positive,
but they're negative, and your mom has to have a

(43:02):
shot so or immune system doesn't destroy you. Right, So
then it looks like you're like the kid in the
tribe that's going to change the vibration. What does that
mean for future generations? Right, they might have been at
a different point in that ancestral line. They might not
have ever been in that ancestral line. So, just like
with abduction scenarios and agreements that we have with off
planet entities or subterranean cultures, every single persons different and

(43:24):
has a unique soul journey and that's I guess, a
really complicated way to answer it. But the negative tends
to be related to off planet stuff. It's very hard
to I think it's it's hard to clone RH negative,
but it's easy to abduct because there's already this off

(43:45):
planet connection. I think the positives are easier to clone
because they're more earth based. I don't know, but again,
our consciousness is always much bigger than our physicality. And yeah, there,
I was going to say one more thing on this.
I think I lost my train of thought. But yeah,

(44:06):
the food thing. That's what's so ridiculous about certain people
that eat a certain way. You know, when they get
in your face about it, like vegans or you know,
it's just like, just hush it. Already sound like you're
like a cult leader here. People need to feel into
what their body needs, and it's really important to do
the research once you find out your blood tied, what
kind of foods are good for you. I read that
book and I remember in my head, oh, I need

(44:28):
to avoid that. That doesn't do well for me. Yeah,
so I think it's just kind of a mixed bag.
But if you're RH negative, I think you're going to
be relating more to something off planet. But I wouldn't
say that necessarily means you've never had Earth based lifetimes.
But at the same time, you might never have. But
everybody's different. I've seen all sorts of things. I've been

(44:49):
doing readings for twenty years. It's like, oh, you're runner
for this song, and then you took off. You've been
gone for a while, now you're back. But see, I
don't do blood tests, so it's not like, you know,
I'm comparing it, and I have like this science of
it all figured out. But just because of the randomness
with everything else, and the fact that we can be
different genders and different you know, and and and manifest
and incarnate in all these different forms, I wouldn't say

(45:11):
that whatever we are, we always have been. But I
think our soul has been consistent. Like I know, I've
been on this mission for thousands of years. I've taken
different forms, though, but I've had the same mission. And
I think as a humanity, we all carry a very
similar mission. Is to be sovereign, to be able to
be fully all that we are, to help this Earth
to move into higher Earth energies. So I don't have

(45:32):
a mission that's unusual at all. It's just I'm awakened
to it just like you, and you're.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Open to talk about it. That's the biggest thing. There's
a lot of people, have a lot of friends who
have a lot of knowledge, whether it's come through came
through meditation, experience, will studying all of this stuff, but
they are too afraid to speak about it. They want
to with all their heart, but because of family, friends,
their job situation, they can't. I was, you know, grace

(46:02):
enough to just not care about that and know that
this stuff was so important, you know, not to keep
to yourself or whatever whatever it is, whether it was
like psychedelic experiences or whatever the case is, and they
were scared to talk about. Okay, if I talk about
my psychedelic experience, then my boss finds out, I'm done.
I'm promoting drug use or saying what I'm doing on
the weekends or whatever, and I'm done. So I've been

(46:24):
one to kind of just like it was so important
for me, like to to keep it to myself, I
would be doing a disservice to humanity. Something that can
potentially heal, you, cure depression, all types of help you
achieve your dreams, all of this kind of stuff. So
it's those people who face the ridicule, which that's gonna
come with it. You talk openly about all the ridicule

(46:46):
and the messages and the comments and stuff. You have
to use wisdom about which people to respond to and
who really is just being a troll. You have a
lot of those. But being okay with who you are
and being vulnerable and being authentic. Okay, this is me,
this is what I bring to the table. You don't
like it, there's other people you can follow, there's other videos,

(47:07):
whatever the cases. But if this is for you, then
let's build and I have something for you. I'm just
going to share my story and what's working. And that's
the beautiful thing. I think everybody needs to be there,
regardless of whatever your truth is. If it's working for
you and you're helping people and you're making other people's
walk a little bit easier, whether you're doing the energy work,

(47:28):
you're doing the healing and things like that, then that's
what I definitely encourage. When it comes to having encounters,
you mentioned fairies and the elementals and things like that.
Have you had any encounters with any on the planet
with anything like that? Any of the elemental spirits, whether
even through meditation or you can feel them or see

(47:49):
them in the wind blowing or any of those experiences
through meditation or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yeah. Well, especially when I was a kid, I was
just like I lived in nature. I was like in
this other dimension. Then when I went into Wilderness expedition leadership,
and I was just had a lot of downtime and
I could just wander off into the desert and you know,
I would have just really interesting dreams and just visions
and just I could see more than what was there,
you know, just diving into the ocean and just anchoring

(48:16):
the boats at night, and you know, it's just like
this whole other world was opening up to me, which
is a lot of why I do the work that
I do and have really come to understand. Guya. I
have just so many past lives of being in just
these higher Earth dimensions where the elementals were alive. And
I went to a clairvoyant institute for two years and
they're like, oh, yeah, you're a fairy queen in this

(48:38):
lifetime and you could just disappear into the woods and
open up a portal or open up a stargate and
you would never need to see a human again because
you And I'm like, okay, so I like trying to
open up not happening. It's okay, I'm supposed to be
here right now. I mean, this is the thing. We
all have access to this as multidimensional beings. And I
love what you just said about being authentic and true
to yourself, because you can't unlock these up dimensions without that.

(49:02):
I mean, I think part of the reason why later
on in life got a little hard for me is
because I started to go into the underbelly to start
to expose the really, really dark stuff, and that takes
a lot of attention. It's really hard to be in
the fairy realms, you know, while you're busting satanic networks,
right like, you know. So a portion of my life
has gone into this sort of low density with as

(49:22):
high a vibration as I can get. Sometimes I'm just like,
oh my gosh, this is so painful and so difficult.
But I think until that completes itself, and enough of
that is getting brought out in the open, which it is,
people are sharing this news right and left, and there's whistleblowers,
there's insiders. I mean, there's hundreds of people that are

(49:43):
exposing this stuff. So I feel like, ah, you know,
I can take a deep breath and kind of step back,
and in meditation is very possible. You know, doing detoxes
is really good too, to start to move the heaviness
out and you know, just know it's there, it's real.
So so a lot of my research and a lot
of the presentations I do are about those kingdoms are

(50:04):
all you know about Avalon, La Maria, Atlantis, you know,
even the higher realms before we sank into this lower density.
So I know, I have really really strong memories. I
definitely have visions when I was a kid, I have
amazing dreams. I used to have a lot more magical dreams.
I know I'm heading back to more of it. And
like I said, my energy has been more concentrated on
a lot of this exposure stuff. But you know, it's

(50:26):
not for sum, it's for all. I mean, we all
have potential, you know, to reap into this and the
fears about you know what others might think, it's a
really important thing to move through because that ends up.
I mean really, what it represents is a block within
yourself because you can move on from all that stuff
and rebirth your whole life on your own terms. I

(50:48):
know you did that.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I did that.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I hit the road and I car camps. I just
got away from everything for like a year or two,
and uh yeah, I live very simply. I went. I
was on food stamps for quite a while so that
I could afford it and just sort of develop skills
that I could eventually, you know, generate a little bit
of funds for And now, you know, it's like, it's

(51:11):
so surreal because I was really struggling financially. I was
leaving all those jobs and all those things that didn't
allow me to be who I am, all the people
that looked at me like I was silly or crazy,
and I just said, I can't do this anymore. And
you know, now I'm going to China at the end
of November with you know, people that I've read books
on or researched, and I'm and I'm doing it. And

(51:32):
if I can do it, if you can do it,
anybody can do it. And the thing is, depression and
anger are symptoms of needing to look at that for
what it is to start to move in the direction
of your true calling. Don't look at it like there's
something wrong with me. It's a healthy response to the
desecration of all that sacred in the world. It's a
healthy response to the bs we're born into. To feel depression,

(51:53):
to feel anger, but that's not the destination. That's a
symptom to be looked at because it holds the key
to your freedom. Allow yourself to leverage those difficult emotions
and feelings. That's why I give readings, because that's what
I work on with people.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Just to throw that in, that's awesome. I agree with
that one hundred percent. A couple more questions here. We're
talking about exposing some of the dark networks and satanic
stuff going on. Been a lot of stuff in the
news lately with the alternative media news with Gaya Gaya TV.

(52:27):
I watched your presentation or your discussion with Alfred Weber
on exopolitics and stuff, so I watched that. I haven't
been following it too close. I've heard a little bit
of stuff about David Wilcock leaving and stuff. Gaya has
been called the sugar Daddy of the New Age movement.
I've heard someone say that that they have all the

(52:48):
money to fund whatever you want to do essentially what's
going on with Gaya. I know people have been blowing
the whistle since they got big, Like now a lot
of people are starting to jump ship. There's a lot
of stuff going on with some of the employees. What
do you know that's that's going on with.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
That, Well, there's a Luciferian component. I think they're linked
in to what's going on with Denver Airport, like underground bases.
I mean, that's what I've heard. There's just a lot
of misuse of power, manipulation control, abusive treatment of employees.
So the GEM movement, which is Guya employee movement, have

(53:28):
been sending cryptic messages to my friend Patty Greer about
what's really going on there. It sort of forced David
Wilcock to, you know, just break ties. He probably or
hopefully was going to do it anyway, I can't imagine
why somebody would stick with that if they knew what
was going on, And so they're all kind of stepping
away and backing down from it. And you know, a

(53:50):
letter from David Wilcox came out and just basically revealed
everything and his feelings on it, which is he's absolutely
not Luciferian. I know him, and and he's a good
man and he cares about humanity. So what I think
is they ended up creating contracts or they joined and
then over time that Luciferian component began to take over.

(54:11):
And again it's not about the entity, it's just about
what Luciferians do. That's you know, because I'm not into
like getting into all that part of it, because to me,
it's all part of our sole architecture. We all have
these archetypes that we have to contend with. But when
a person chooses those names and these are the practices
that go along with it, that's the disturbing part. So
you know, when we look at Luciferianism, we see cases

(54:33):
of pedophilia associated with people that claim to be Luciferian.
We see cannibalism even and you know, these mind control
projects and just all sorts of really dark things. So
that's all coming down. People are walking away unsubscribing, I mean,
and Hollywood's being outed too, So all these different power

(54:53):
structures that are trying to run things, they don't really
stand a chance. But what's interesting is that they got
their great and hooks into the disclosure movement, which is
all about trying to disclose this stuff. So there's disclosure
within the disclosure movement, which is interesting. So I ended
up kind of getting into all this because Patty was
sending me all these emails from Jem and then I

(55:14):
got the David letter, David Wilcock letter, and then all
of a sudden, you know, I'm verifying with people that
work for Gaya that this is true. So if anybody's thinking, well,
maybe this is a sciaps, no, it actually is true.
I have a firsthand. I have to keep those names quiet.
But yeah, so that one's falling apart too. So this

(55:35):
is like really really good news. If we're getting it
in politics, Hollywood and the disclosure movement. We have nowhere
else to go but to emerge very clean and clear
from all these different influences that are using children in
their life force to feed so that they gain power,
so they gain influence, so they gain wealth, to infiltrate,
which is the name of the game. They've been infiltrating

(55:56):
everything since for thousands of years. The Templars, the Masons,
and any well intentioned group ended up getting infiltrated. But
we got to look at those groups, what was the
weak spot that allowed those infiltrations to come in. That's
what we got to do. When we look at ourselves,
how can we protect ourselves? We need to be real, solid,
real connected, real grounded, and real true to who we are.

(56:17):
If we don't know who we are, we simply just
need to show up as honest as we can with
ourselves until we clear out the toxicity, the programmings and
the contamination to get to the true core source of
our true nature and what it means to be ourselves.
And sometimes we don't have a label or an identity,

(56:37):
and that's great. I only do because I kind of
have to. Like, Okay, Laura, what's your title? I'm like
a global alchemist. I don't know, make it up like
a guidance counselor's not gonna tell me I'm a global alchemist.
But what the hell am I doing? I'm just trying
to turn the lead of this human experience into gold again,
because it's all within us. There's no chosen ones. Every

(56:59):
single person has like capacity in their DNA and DNA
damage and genetic mutations can be healed.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
You were just recently at Intact in the desert. Seems
like you had a really good time. How was that
experience for you, I mean it was great.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
It's my fifth year. It was at a different location.
I know, guy at TV had a huge position there.
I mean, I I was happy with the turnout. Seeing
friends and colleagues is always really fun. I think it's
a great venue. Hopefully it'll be cleared of any kind

(57:35):
of weirdness that might be there, because there's a lot
that's trying to hook into these events, a lot of
directed energy weapons that have happened before at some of
these events. But I love contact in the desert. I'm
always grateful to be a part of it. So yeah,
I did a workshop, a lecture, and a panel, and
I had so much fun with you know, people play

(57:57):
ping pong with Nick Pope. You know, it's just like
how random and funny. Yeah, No, I had a lot
of fun. I saw an edge of wonder there. I
don't know if you guys have seen their years.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah, I I've watched your interviews there. Those guys are
really cool man, pull.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Together great and I'm so happy to be exposed to you.
I mean, I love what you're doing and your knowledge
base and you're it's awesome. So, I mean, this is
the best part of it is meeting new people and
seeing how people are living their truth and their passion
and they're helping to get the truth out there. So
there's a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
It's contagious, man Like when you're around people living their
truth and being okay with it, it kind of moves
you to jealousy. It moves you to envy, but you
have to catch it. I feel like we're supposed to,
like even with alchemy, do something good with it. Okay,
you're jealous? Why are you jealous? Okay? Because they get
to wake up and do what they love for a living. Okay,

(58:52):
what can you do to stop that? You can neither
stay jealous, let it move into bitterness and you know
what was me whatever, that's not gonna help. What can
you do with the jealousy and the envy that's coming, Well,
you can try to do what they're doing. What did
they do to start walking in there? Calling? What can
you do to start walking in your dream? And so

(59:12):
it's contagious, Like I would listen to podcasts. I have
friends who were healers and they did yoga and breath
work and then their hip hop artists and they do it.
They get to wake They get to wake up and
their job for the day was to work on a
new song or whatever. And now that's my job. And
that seemed like something that was so far away that
I could never obtain it. It was, you know, not

(59:34):
possible financially, it wouldn't bring it enough money. Nobody buys
albums anymore. They download music for you and all this stuff.
But it's to get that vision, be consistent and whatever
makes your heart tick. Man. Like I said, if it's
a tattoo artist, I would go get tattooed and see
those guys. Love to do what they're doing, love to create,
love to do art and stuff or what that expression.

(59:57):
And it's contagious. You gotta like make a choice. Eventually
you're just gonna be mad and bitter. I'm like, man,
I wish I could do what y'all are doing to
do it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, totally. And this is a I have on my website.
If you scroll down to the bottom of the home page,
you can subscribe to my newsletter and for four ninety
nine a month, I will do mini sessions, one mini
session each month, and I put out astrological reports. And
the mini sessions are really what is your mission, what
is your passion? What's getting in the way. Being able

(01:00:26):
to look at the astrology, you can see the blocks,
you can see the unconscious blocks, you can see the fears,
you can see you know, you can understand, like how
you tick, what's getting in the way, and what's available?
What is the potential? Everybody's got avatar consciousness potential in
their chart. I've never seen a chart that doesn't hold
that potential. But how can one get there and change
their life so that they can step into their mission?

(01:00:47):
So people out there that are listening are like, oh,
you know, I want to feel free. I want to
be doing what I love to do. You know, I
would recommend maybe subscribing because you know, you get a
phone call with me and you can see how the
stars are affecting you. You can ask me any questionquestion.
There's discounts for some of my longer readings, and it's
all geared towards exactly what you're saying. How can you
turn that jealousy or envy or being like how come

(01:01:09):
they can do it and I can't? You absolutely can?
I mean I was like you, I was stuck in
I mean, I don't I don't quite know your full story,
so I won't say that, but you know, I was
stuck in jobs. I mean I was jobs at you know,
some of them I really did, Like I love landscaping,
and I love some of the other things. I like
interacting with people in this and that. But I mean
it was like, I'm not going to survive my path.

(01:01:30):
It'd be even surreal or a miracle if I even
get to talk about my mission. I never imagine that
it would end up where it did. But I had
visions and a knowing this that it needed to not
so much in the speaking so much and being so exposed.
I wasn't really thinking like I'd be such a maybe
public type person. But you know, if you have the vision,

(01:01:53):
your creative energy is already on it and it's working
on your behalf to manifest it. But you have to
be willing. You just have to be willing to not
give up. It's pretty wild. But yeah, I was just like,
if I live to tell the tale of my mission
and path, I mean, it's it's going to not even
be a miracle. It's like, because sometimes we're in the underworld,
we don't have any help. You have to find your

(01:02:14):
own light in the most horrific darkness. And that's kind
of what my books about, going into the underworld, not
even feeling like there's a spiritual presence there to help.
Why because oh my gosh, it's right inside of me,
And this is an initiation for me to understand that
it's inside of me. It doesn't mean that it's not
outside of me anymore, because it's a part of the
multi dimensional cosmos and Earth. But there are certain initiations

(01:02:36):
we go through that throw us into some of the
most horrific things so that we can recognize in that
space what we're truly made of. And if we don't,
we become victims, We become bitter, We can even turn
to evil.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
That you to evil? Yeah, Ca and Abel, I mean yeah,
I mean just looking at the story, the archetype of
canaan Abel jealous of his brother. Oh he gets all
the good stuff. He's the Why am i not the beloved?
Why don't Why doesn't God help me? Why doesn't Gaya TV?
Help me? You know? They people can look at you
where you are now and think that that you just

(01:03:14):
you know, you know, somebody put you on or somebody
retweeted one of your posts and now you're this this
this personality or whatever. They don't know the sleepless nights
and the tears and the things that you've cried because
you have this story within you that this is you
have to get out. It's not an option like these
things that you have to get out. And this stuff

(01:03:34):
is years in the making. You just didn't start doing
this yesterday. You said you've been doing readings and stuff
like that for what like twenty years? Now you've been
doing it for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Yeah, I mean I have to carry like a full
time job is like a landscape or I did it on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
This side you get home.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah, I eventually like had my whole mission and everything
take over. Now it's my full time job, just like you.
But it wasn't like that. And there's nothing glamorous about it.
So even if a person looks at it with envy,
there's targeting, there's having to dive into information that you
have to figure out how to articulate that is so disturbing.
You have to really reach into like the positive message

(01:04:10):
and and and if people think it pays well, no,
I mean most of the stuff I do is for free.
I go to events. You know, they're not big money makers.
There are ways to create more abundance. So once you're
in it, because there has to be some sort of balance.
But you know, I get a lot of criticism. You know. Oh,

(01:04:30):
you know, when you're a part of the Eisenhower family,
you're probably we don't have trust funds. Eisenhower didn't sell
himself out to the illuminati. We all have to work
our butts off. I wasn't born into any wealth. I mean,
we even grew up going to thrift stores. I mean,
my Ike's son, my grandfather helped us every once in
a while. But it's not like we're presidential families sitting
on a bunch of wealth. So there's a lot of
projections that can create emotions that aren't necessary. You know,

(01:04:54):
we really all got to know each other. We got
to know we're in it together. We signed up for
different roles in different parts. But if a person feels
like they're not playing their role, then look outside of
yourself for inspiration, not envy, because if you feel it
in you and that's where you want to go, that's
where you're meant to go. Allow inspiration and and uh gosh,
some people go into such bitterness and envy, and it's

(01:05:15):
just like, I don't think you realize, but it's okay,
that's why we're here talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And I mean the loss of friends sessions, what's that,
you know? The loss of friends like having good friends
that once you reach a certain level, they can't go
with you there you know there, you know, bitterness kicks
into them, like these people that you've been friends with
for so long, and then they're bitter, they're envious, they
don't know how to act now that you're getting attention
or whatever, and all of these different reasons. Man, where

(01:05:42):
your friends are just falling off, you can't bring them
with you to the next levels. That's not easy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Nope. Yeah, I probably had two friends before Facebook. I
mean I mean not, and I wasn't even known. People
just couldn't handle my information. And it's just like, while
I was also raising kids by myself and so it
didn't give me much of a social life. But then
when I started to become public, some people were like,
oh my gosh, okay and would come to me like,

(01:06:09):
oh geez, now I kind of get what you were
all about in high school because I'm one most out
of touch with reality for the senior class. But then
a lot of people, I mean, nobody was really there anyway.
But as I joined social media and I started to
post and I started to become public, it definitely also
created that where a lot of people just walk the

(01:06:30):
other way and just didn't like it. So, you know,
don't let other peoples the way that they perceive you
determine your own self worth. I mean, I look at
it like we're in a parade. We're throwing stuff out
to the crowd. We just need to keep moving forward.
If we jump off and we see what they're doing
with it, like are you eating it? Are you put
it in your pocket? Are you stepping on it? Are
you throwing it at somebody, then we lose our ability

(01:06:54):
to stay focused. You know a lot of people pay
too much attention to what everybody else thinks, that they're
not moving forward and just planting seeds and sharing information.
Everybody who's listening to this has something to offer your
friends and your family. But again, you know, you got
to feel into who's ready who's not. So you know,
we don't want to get into battles and conflicts. So
there's an art to kind of like you know, how

(01:07:15):
to wake people up. But there's always something that people
can do UH and and that's kind of the nature
of what the readings can be, like what what what?
What did you come in? What's important for you in
this lifetime to completely achieve?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I don't think that there's any excuse because the
majority of us have one of these. And for those
of you who are listening on UH on the podcast,
I'm holding up a smartphone, there's really no excuse. You
can create whatever you want to create, whether it's a
persona whatever. If you want to start a YouTube channel

(01:07:47):
that bakes muffins and cooks ramen, noodles and weird ways,
what anything you can think of, Like, you can make
a living doing it. You can find ways to get
people to support you or pay you, or once you
get a big enough audience, you can have advertisers things
like that. There's no excuse because we all have this,
the Internet. If we take advantage of it, it's changing

(01:08:09):
the game. And you don't I mean anything, whatever you
want to do, like you can reach the world through
this this phone here, and so I don't think there's
any excuse for any of us to be like, oh,
you have a shot or you have this or whatever.
Create it. If it's not there and there's a need,
create it, and then that's when the people come that
when you when you're you see a need and then

(01:08:31):
you fulfill it, whatever role it is, whatever you want
to do, even if nobody's ever heard of it. What
is a global alchemist, Well let me show you. I'm
gonna show you what one is. You haven't seen. Stick around,
you're gonna find out what it is and what we do.
And it's essentially it. Man. One last question. Someone in
the chat was saying something about spiritually, those who are

(01:08:54):
so going into the ethers and the astro realms and
meditation and talking to fairies and aliens and all this stuff.
They basically alluded that that was a form of escapism
and that it's doing a disservice to spirit because they
would rather be in the now moment and be present
and enjoy this life. It's not a cop out. I

(01:09:15):
think that comment is kind of a cop out. But
to understand how it's a relationship the spiritual aspect of
not being so spiritual that you're no earthly good, but
being so spiritual that you're earthly and credible really to
be able to tap in, tune in, go into the ethers,
find out who you are, find out what you want
to do, get the game plan, connect with your higher power,

(01:09:37):
the angels, the guides, whatever that is. That's the way
we're created, that genetic makeup. Something that's happening there. It's
not just fantasy la la land. I created and in
my mind and so it is something's going on. Where's
the connection there as far as being so spiritual, but
then we bring it down so that we're impactful and
it's in our knowledge, it's practical that it the power

(01:10:00):
to change lives and help people who are suffering with depression,
who doesn't have people who don't have friends, you know,
this type of stuff, to make it practical. Where's the
connection there with that for you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Well, I said that earlier. You know about integrating higher
and lower self. I mean, yeah, we can't just be
out there or so grounded an earth based that we
shut ourselves off. I mean we're only denying ourselves the
fullness of our multidimensional body. I mean we want to
be whole. The ether is an element just like Earth, air, fire, water.
Ether is a part of the cosmos, which is a

(01:10:30):
part of the Earth. The Earth energies have different harmonic universes.
Gaia is multidimensional, this Earth is multidimensional. It was seated
with the thirteen dimensional core, but it ended up being
programmed into a three D planet. But there was a
sphere that was morphed into the core that represented a
part of the mother energy that actually left because of
all the wars it got ungrounded, wasn't able to be

(01:10:50):
in the body, and in this essential window period has
been grounded back into the Earth body, which activates the
diamond sun DNA. And I have a lot of research
on this. I do presentations about it. Even though I'm
just saying it quickly. You know, people might be like, well,
what's that all about. That's all just bs. I mean
when we get super grounded into the Earth, I think
it opens us up. I mean I did not choose

(01:11:11):
to be out of my body. Most of my life.
I was out of my body for about twenty years.
I had to go get help to get into my
physical body. I needed a lot of help because I
was out there. It was like one person at the
Clairvoyant Institute said that I actually died and I went
through the whole journey that his soul goes through when
they die. But I was able to maintain my physical
through my Conlan and bringing in other guides to help

(01:11:36):
run my body that were similar enough to me an
agreement with what I'm in agreement to, so that I
wouldn't have something negative come in. I mean, I was
like a crazy astral traveler. It's not really a choice,
so to say, like, oh, well that's escapism. Okay, well,
I guess I was born in escapism mode. But where
was I escaping too? I was working on Well, they
told me I was clearing wormholes from inorganic entities. I

(01:11:59):
was like, okay, you actually, you're right, because that is
what I was doing. I wasn't really sure. I was
just a kid, and I was growing up. I was
a teenager, and then I was an adult that realized
I can't get into my body. What have I been doing?
What is this about? And I knew, but I needed
the clarity too, and they gave me the clarity. So,
I mean, everybody's built differently. Some people are completely shut off,
that's all bs. Those things don't exist, And okay, fine,

(01:12:21):
I mean that's kind of a limitation. I knew that
I was missing something. I could admit it. I need
to be in my body. I need to be present here,
I need to be on Earth. So as I started
to come back into my body, I was able to
just learn things like astrology, you know, things about the
earth grids, things that are very much about the here

(01:12:41):
and now. You can be in the astral and connecting
with fairies and guides and still be in the now.
How is that not being in the now? How is
that escaping anything? I mean, if we wake up in
the matrix every day and we're answering to mind control programs,
social engineering, that's the worst form of escapism because that's
not even authentic. That's something that is telling us how
to think and how to be. So if whoever made

(01:13:03):
that common is a completely free spirit, that is just
living a life that has nothing to do with television
or movies or program things. You know, right on, But
I don't know how you're being a sovereign, authentic being
without recognizing your multidimensional self. The goal is is to
be grounded here in the now, awakened to all that
we are. You know, but we can't do it all

(01:13:25):
at once, because you know, there's a process where there's
different stages of development, just like as a plant grows
just as a child grows up. As a humanity, there
are different stages of development. I started off in the ether,
though now I'm back on Earth, so I know those
realms are real and but at the same time, when
you look at a planet like Neptune, which is a

(01:13:46):
planet related to our multidimensional energy, it also rules the
creative imagination. Where do you think we create from? Where
do you think anything manifested out of? But the great
cosmic imagination. That's where why there's so much diversity in nature.
I mean, look at the oceans, the octopus. I mean,
it's like the insect kingdom. There's thousands and millions of species.

(01:14:07):
I mean that came out of somebody's imagination. So our
spirituality and our clairvoyance has a lot to do with
the creative imagination. But what we have to check is
is it distorted? Are there distortions in our imagination which
can lead to being haunted, being in fear, creating delusions
that don't serve us because it's not in alignment with

(01:14:28):
the frequency of our physical body. So when we're healthy
in our physical body, our creative imagination is healthy and
vice versa. If our creative imagine is creative imagination is healthy,
our physical body is healthy. They go hand in hand.
Energy is the precursor or the predecessor to physicality. Energy
happens first. So if you have a lot of pain

(01:14:51):
and fear and trauma, your physical body is going to
reveal it and show it through physical symptoms. But if
you're energetically clear, your physical body's probably going to be
a lot healthier. And if you take good care of
your physical body, more than likely when you go into
your dream realm, you're having better experiences than somebody who's toxic.
So there's no separation between the ether, the astral, our physicality,

(01:15:14):
and what's beyond the ether, which is zero point and
the actual earth energies in the core of this earth
actually connects us with the zero point. And I have
a lot of information on this, so you know, if
anybody wants to send me an email, like I want
to see that information and some real articulate, intelligent communication

(01:15:34):
about it, you know, I can supply that to you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Yeah, it's it's I think it's it's a part of
it is like being a true shaman h as one
who's able to go through the ethers. One who's in
what we talk about go through the ethers? What does
that mean? You can go to sleep every night? All
of us have to put our head on our pillows
and then the the DMT is released into a pineal

(01:15:57):
gland and we go into the ethers and astral travel
and get premonitions, all kinds of stuff. But it's about
being a shaman to be able to go into those
realms and pull out the information and make it manifest.
I mean, whether you're an artist, whether anything that you'll create,
I'm on this kick right now. You're talking about the imagination.

(01:16:18):
All of this stuff coming out of something's imagination, whether
it's a creator, God or whatever. But us being as
little creators when we create, we kind of give glory
back to that infinite creator and we're made in the
image and likeness of that creator. Whatever we create. If
I create a song, I have to go into the ethers.
I have to go in here, experience, put all this

(01:16:40):
stuff together, and then birth something that never existed. If
you're putting together a seminar, a webinar, Okay, this webinar
don't exist until you build it, until you brand it,
until you birth, it, a picture, a painting, whatever it is.
All of that is part of the spiritual alchemy, is
going into those ethers and making it manifest something that

(01:17:01):
didn't exist. This podcast did not exist, you know, all
of this stuff didn't exist until we created it. And
that's part of it, is just learning how to do that.
You can have all the dreams you want and all
the fantasies and this dream life and a dream husband,
dream wife, dream career or whatever. It's going to be
a dream unless you set goals and you understand how
to do the alchemy of grabbing that stuff out of here,

(01:17:24):
out of the ether and berthing it into the now moments.
So I think they work hand in hand.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Ye, And that's so well put bravo.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
I appreciate you coming on. Go ahead and share your
links again. Let people know about what you got coming up,
and maybe they'll go over there and subscribe to what
you have going on over there at the website.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Yeah, so cosmigaia dot org. You can subscribe at the
bottom of the page. If you go to the bookings
page you don't want to subscribe, there's all sorts of
sessions and readings just to help you really know who
you are and what makes you know just I already
kind of explained it not to kind of promote, but
it just seemed to fit into what we were talking
about as far as my offerings, because all this is
very important for people to just really be who they are.

(01:18:05):
The events I have coming up should be listed on
the website. It should be all updated. So that's Cosmicgaia
dot org. I've dimensions of disclipp and I keep things
pretty updated just as best as I can. And I
really enjoyed being on. This is a great conversation, and
thanks everybody for listening.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
All right, Laura, we'll have to do it again soon.
Thank you so much, my friend, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Thank you as well. Take care all right, by bye.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Laura Eisenhower, great granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. Really
good discussion. I've been trying to make this happen for
a while. We finally got her on as a guest.
I enjoyed it man so much. She is. I mean,
we could have just named almost any subject, and she's
like a walking encyclopedia. She has so much information on

(01:18:52):
all of this stuff. We could have just talked about crystals,
probably for the whole hour we could have talked about
astrology and talking about astrology, man, her stuff. I love
listening to her go on other people's shows and just
go in on astrology and the planets and Saturn. What
the Saturn mean and how does it relate back to
us and all the planets, Like we're going through that
alchemy as well, like we're going through the planetary allegory. Essentially,

(01:19:16):
She's got a lot of information on that stuff, way
more than me and I love to kind of have
people on who are studied in other realms and we
can just roll ideas off of one another to get
to the bottom of the stuff. Right, That's what we
have to do. We have to be able to bring
our piece to the table, piece of the puzzle, put
it down. Laura brings hers, Ory, Good brings his, Christy

(01:19:38):
Lee brings hers whatever. We all bring our pieces to
the puzzle and we're like, look, we're starting to see
something here, something is a picture is starting to form.
That's really what it's about, man, It's about you know.
I don't think one person, any one person has the truth.
I think that they have their truth and that they
can bring their truth to the table and hopefully that
truth is something that can help you, that can heal

(01:19:59):
you and bring forth write knowledge and understanding in whatever
place you are in your life. That's what this podcast
exists for. And I'm bragging it's thriving. You guys are
listening and you're resonating with something. You guys are supporting,
like something is up. I'm doing something right, whatever it is,

(01:20:20):
I'm gonna be consistent and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Chris Barr says, where can I find her on podcast
Truth Seeker? I don't know about podcasts. I'm sure she's
been interviewed before. So if you go to wherever you
listen to podcasts and look up her name, I'm sure
there's podcast episode, you're definitely gonna find her all over YouTube,
but definitely look her up. Man, your dreams manifesting and

(01:20:47):
bringing them into this reality, being a shaman, being able
to travel the realms, I mean, and it is practical.
We make it sound esoteric and beautiful. That's my job
because I think it is esoteric and beautiful. I think
that it is intriguing and sparks wonder and awe and
all of these things. Anything spiritual, anything practical, But it's

(01:21:08):
a part of going into the dream state or just
having a thought. Let's just you know, going in and
grabbing that thought and bringing it out. And think of
that though, something, no matter what it is, it didn't
exist until you created it. If you didn't create it,
it would nobody would benefit from it, nobody would be

(01:21:29):
able to see it or experience it. But since you
did the due diligence, the hard work that pays off.
I mean, your whole life is this though, Like your
whole life is alchemy. People are getting to see, like
on a public scale, most of the time, they're getting
to see the good stuff. They haven't seen the bad stuff.
They haven't seen the base stuff that you went through

(01:21:50):
of the years of regret and mistakes and trials and
error trying this doing that. And they haven't seen the
heartache and the discouragement. They just see the well polished you,
the well spoken you. You know what I'm saying, Look
at any of these people, Look at Laura Eisenhower, look
at you know. Go back and listen to early versions
of the True Seker podcast. I mean, there's some really

(01:22:11):
early ones that you may even be able to find
under different names online, and they were weird, man. We
had to learn how to do this stuff. The more
you do it, you get better at it. Whatever it is.
If it's astral traveling, if it's leaving your body, if
it's meditation, if it's contacting ets like whatever it is.
If it's doing music, go listen to early Truthseeker music.

(01:22:33):
Oh my god, I'm two hundred songs in. Go listen
to song number one and two. You know what I'm saying.
Quantity eventually produces quality. And the more that you do
something you have to train yourself, playing basketball, playing a sport,
you get better. You get better, you build endurance, you

(01:22:54):
learn tricks to the trade, you learn new moves, new
things that you can add to your arsenal, all of
this stuff creating what you want for yourself. And it's
such a blessing. Like I said, if it didn't exist
until you created it, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
What it is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
I don't care what it is. Well, if, like I said,
my tattoo artist, like those guys are doing beautiful work, man,
Like that tattoo didn't exist until I went in there
and thought about it and connected with this person and
network with them and love my tattoos. You know what
I'm saying, Like, whatever it is, man, we are really
I believe we're made in the image and likeness of

(01:23:32):
a creator and we emanate that. And I think the
highest form of worship man is when we do what
we're put here to do and we resonate at that
higher level. Man, something that didn't exist, whatever it is,
go out there and paint a picture, or you're a painter,
write a poem, something, Man, you can do it. You

(01:23:54):
can birth it, a job, a career, a need. If
you create a need, if you fill a need, people
will pay you for that. Like if you can bring
something to the table that people need or people want,
people will pay you for that. The Internet is so
powerful you can create whatever you want, even on a website.

(01:24:14):
Like I said, talk about planning seeds to fulfill your destiny. Whatever,
planning seeds, sewing seeds, whatever that is comes in the
form of sending emails, starting instagrams, starting website, you know, blogging,
writing blog create something, man, birth it, use your phone,

(01:24:35):
use your whatever. There's so many free resources man out
there that you can use. And it's alchemy. You get better,
You get better. You can get money and buy better equipment.
You get a good camera, you get a good microphone.
Whatever you want to start a podcast, you got something
to share with people. Are you entertaining? Are you funny?
Whatever you want to do, you can do it, and
then you can thrive and make a living doing it

(01:24:55):
as well. I try to be as open and honest
as I can with you guys from the pitfalls, the
things that work and the things that didn't work. And
I and I you know, if you're just listening for entertainment,
I don't. I don't think this is an entertainment podcast.
I'm just trying to give you the game. I'm letting
you know you're playing the game. Most of you don't

(01:25:16):
understand the rules. Whether we're talking about universal law, whatever
we're talking about see time and harvest karma, all of
these laws. Man, that whatever you put out you're going
to get back. You know, we talk about this all
the time. You want support, you gotta support people. You
want love, you gotta find somebody in love on them.
You know what I'm saying, Like Chris Garner says he's entertained, Yeah,

(01:25:41):
you know, but I think you're doing it too. I
don't think this is just just for you to listen
to I want. I want you to. I want you to.
I want to say that in the right manner. I
want you to be moved to jealousy. I want you

(01:26:03):
to in everything that I do. The Bible says, I'll
make you the envy of all nations that they want
what you got. I want you to want. I think
I got what you want. I think I have that
in many aspects. People are in different places. Man, wherever

(01:26:24):
you are listening to this, if I'm talking to the
young Derek, I'm talking to the young truth, he could
drive in the truck. Hey, man, do it, bro. You
can do it. Man, don't give up. You can do it, Man.
Send that email, Derek. Come on, I'm about to cry

(01:26:45):
talking about this. You could do it, Bro, don't give up.
I'm saying that to you guys. Man, you can do it.
Don't give up. Whatever it is. I don't know, like,
this isn't the model, this isn't you know? Whatever it is. Man,
you want to start a YouTube channel with your family

(01:27:06):
family vlogging, you can do it. You could do it
full time. Do it, man, make it happen. You know
you know well I got kids me too, do you Man,
understand what it is. Manifest it be consistent. Chris barrs

(01:27:27):
he's repeating what I say. Consistency is key. I can
continue to name those friends who aren't consistent. They're changing
with the wind. The Bible says, don't be pushed around
by every wind of doctrine. I say, don't be pushed
around by every wind of new idea. Get your idea, man,
we could solely do something. I could start a podcast.
I got so many cool people in my circle, man,

(01:27:49):
and I would love I can fathom. I can go
out there and ether I can think about starting a
podcast with each one of these people. I could do
a podcast with this person. I could do it. So
I'd rather just start up my own podcast and get
them to come up. I want to have this conversation.
You know what I'm saying. But you only have so
many hours in the day to make something happen. We
have the same amount of time. We only have twenty

(01:28:10):
four hours. But what you do with that time, you know,
you can't get it back. You can't get that time back.
Time wasted, you can't get it back. So just make
sure that you're taking advantage of the time to send
the emails, to create the goal, to write it down,

(01:28:31):
get a vision, make it plain. You know, if you
write down your goals, you're not just by writing them down,
you're seventy to ninety percent more likely to achieve them
just by writing them down. A to do list. I
have a honeyde list right here for this. If you're watching,
I have a honey do list. Don't read it. That's

(01:28:52):
stuff I have to do that my wife wrote for me.
And since she wrote them down, I'm consciously aware. Okay,
got gotta make that happen, Gotta do this. I'm consciously
aware of it versus forgetting about it. I got so
much stuff going on, it's easy to forget. So if
you write this stuff down, man, even something that is

(01:29:13):
just a reminder, get the vision, write it down, make
it plain, seventy more able or apt to fulfilling it,
whatever that is. Get those people in your life who
are going to help you. Get people who are feeding
that dream.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Carrying other people, y'all, You guys are empathic, and you're
letting other people dictate your feelings and emotions. Man, get
those people out your life. People. You're dealing with toxic people.
People who don't have anything to contribute to your relationship.

(01:29:54):
They don't have nothing to give. They just want want want.
They take, They take, they take, They judge, they judge,
they judge, they criticize, they criticized, they criticize. Get those
people out your life. Why are you entertaining it? Do
you just like what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
You know you can thrive and deal with without those people,
right like if they're not if they're not contributing something
good somebody, because they talk those type of people out
out of your life. Chris Bars in the comment, we're
talking about people who call you out, who challenge you,

(01:30:28):
who think that you're in error, who think that you're
doing it the wrong way, and they try to make
a spectacle out of you on an open platform. Like
they'll use Facebook or something like that to expose you
or whatever the case is, to call you out, set
you straight. You know, they do it on an open platform.

(01:30:50):
They'll maybe make videos or whatever the case is. That's
not love, man, brotherly love, sisterly love, Like you have
to come to that person and in private. The scriptures
even tell you to do that. Go to that person
in private. You got people that's putting all of your
personal stuff out there on the on on on the internet.

(01:31:11):
They're just you know, doing all that stuff that's not good.
That's not good, especially like conversation. You got people screenshot
and conversations. People screenshot and stuff that that you've told
them in private and through messenger, and then they shared
out there with the world. And these people are cutthroat

(01:31:31):
out here, you know, and you got to learn get
people in your life who love you and who support you,
and uh make it happen. Man. Oh, I just got
a donation live from my good friend Christy. Folks, Thank
you Christy for that. You rock. Thank you so much

(01:31:51):
for your support. Thank you everyone for your support supporting
my work and what I'm bringing to the table. And uh,
like I said, it's it's I think it's resonating with
with some people, so I'm gonna play it. Thank you.
Thank you for the donation, Christy and everybody else who

(01:32:12):
has been donating and helping and encouraging all of that
good stuff. Get those toxic people out of your life, man,
Find people who support you, who believe in you. We're
rooting for you, not working against you. They're out there.

(01:32:32):
You're in a situation in a group of people where
you're just being tolerated, just being tolerated. Don't go to
don't go where you're tolerated. Go where you needed, go
where you want it, and there's something, there's a place
out there for you. Like you just think that this
is it all because you've been doing it for so long.
You better change you, better get a change of scenery.

(01:32:54):
Find your tribe. I love my tribe. I love you guys,
really do for those of you. Christy Lee did leave
a comment right when we went live, and she's telling
she's beckoning you, Christy folks, I mean beckoning people to
join Discord. That's where our tribe is. We hang out

(01:33:14):
on Discord throughout the week. That's for patrons, and that's
just for people who need community, want community, want like
minded people to talk to throughout the week. There's voice chat,
there's text messaging. It's a really cool app on your
phone or on your computer. I try to jump in
there as much as I can. If I'm working on
a song, if i'm doing graphic hard, if I'm getting

(01:33:35):
stuff ready for a podcast, I'll try to jump in
there and chat. We jumping in We just listen to
music We've been listening to music all morning chatting on
There a lot of people who are on here. So
if you're looking for community, the link is in the description.
This is Discord. Get it on your phone or get
it on your computer. It's voice chat and it's typing.
Some people, are you know, weird about jumping in the

(01:33:56):
voice chat. I stay on voice chat. I don't try
to type too much. So if you don't see me, comment,
and I'm always watching y'all's conversations. Man, keep an eye
on y'all. So, yeah, if you're looking for community, make
sure you take advantage of this technology. Like I said,
we don't have an excuse. I fell alone, man, I
have nobody to talk to. You're a liar. You are
a liar. You're lying, Discord. You got a whole community,

(01:34:22):
family of people who are looking to help you, to
encourage you, to equip you, and just to say what's up,
just to say how you're doing, if you need prayer,
any of that stuff. We got a team of people, man, beautiful,
beautiful community that's growing and that's thriving. I mean, we
go on vacations together, we take trips. We're all kinds

(01:34:42):
of cool stuff. Man, you got to get with the program.
Don't say you don't have nobody to talk to. Don't
say you don't have nobody to encourage you. Like we
have tools, we have radio shows, we have podcasts. We'll
encourage you, equip you. This is what a community is.
It takes a community. We hop on Discord Lincoln in
the description it's free and get it on your phone

(01:35:03):
or your computer. It's a community to thrive with telling
you good stuff. With that being said, I'm going to
say peace and shalom again, thank you guys for supporting
the work. And you guys, you know I talk about
creating this. Yes, I showed up. I created this. I

(01:35:23):
did a lot of stuff to make this happen. I
did my own research. I've watched interviews and podcasts also
to get inspired to make this happen. But at the
end of the day, it wouldn't be possible without you guys.
Thank you guys for co creating this with me. This
Laura Eisenhower interview that we just did. This encouragement that
I tried to share at the end of the show.

(01:35:45):
It's lighting a fire under your butt, lighting a fire
in your heart. Man to get up and do something. Man,
to breathe upon that fire spoken word, prophetically call it
out of you. Breathe upon that fire like Jesus breathed
upon his disciples. I'm trying to breathe the breath of
life over you to encourage you to seek your calling,

(01:36:07):
seek your vision, whatever it is, do it, make it
come to pass. I couldn't do it without your help
and support. So we created this together. It wouldn't exist
without you. So again, thank you guys who have been
supporting via Patreon and other donations and things like that.
Thank you guys for praying for me, lifting me up
in prayer, being there when I need someone to talk to,

(01:36:29):
giving me advice. Thank you for being a part of
my life. And yeah, that's all I want to say.
Thank you guys for being in the chat too, those
of you who can't support like just being here making this,
you know, a collective experience. Thank you guys for listening
to this and continuing to listen and continuing to tell
people about it. Everybody, man, everybody plays a part, and

(01:36:53):
I'm thankful and I want you to do what you
were called to do, what you were put here to do.
And if you don't I'm gonna be mad. You're doing
it wrong. Love you guys. Join us for the after
party over in Discord linked in the description Love you guys,
Peace and shalom, shalom, Joe so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Much, so much, so much.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Well, that does it for this episode.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
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