The Truth Behind First Alien Contact: CE5, UFOs, and Interdimensional Beings | Melissa Peabody - UFOs and Aliens

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I don't think I talk about this subject enough. I
do try to get a little bit of it in
on on every conversation, but I like to talk to

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people who have had UFO in alien contact, whatever it is, whatever,
we're trying to get to the bottom of it all.
You know, I think that everybody has a piece of
the puzzle. Everybody brings something to the table of their
own personal experiences, what they've learned, what they believe, and
we try to formulate a picture together. We bring all

(05:17):
our pieces of the puzzle, put it together. We tend
to formulate a picture. And that's what it's about. I
don't think that I don't take anybody's word one hundred percent.
I don't believe everything James Gilliland, Jordan Maxwell, even my
own experiences. I don't claim to have it all figured out,
but I think that the truth lies somewhere in the
middle of it all as it forms a picture. So

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today's guests, we're going to be talking to Melissa Peabody
of my first contact dot net. Melissa, Welcome to the podcast.
How are you?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm so glad to be here with you. I'm excited
to talk about this. And as you know, I reached
out to you not for promotion for my project because
you had and I was explicit about that, but you
had talked about during a show with James Gilliland that

(06:09):
you knew people who were very much triggered by deep
fear having seen films, Hollywood films about UFOs and ets,
and they were terribly frightened. And so I've had my
own experiences filming many unusual I'll call them objects in

(06:29):
my skies, and I believe they range from UFOs and ships,
crafts what you will, to light beings to orbs, to
energy chefts. We can go into all of that, but
my experience has been I don't watch those Hollywood movies.

(06:49):
I don't have that fear. So and I'm also a
documentary filmmaker and a journalist, and so my response to
something new in my sky is really very much curiosity driven,
and I want to know more. I want to know
what it is that I'm seeing. I have a camera,

(07:11):
I have an edit system, I know what to do here,
and so it's my nature to just film what I'm seeing.
It is completely without fear, and I wanted to offer
that to you my project. My films, they're very very short,
so that you could just literally if you talk to
someone who is very very afraid on this topic, you

(07:35):
could simply point them to this and just say, go
watch a few of these films. They don't have any
fear in them, and there are in my experience. In
my experience might be narrow, but I don't think there
are many things out there that deal with this topic
that aren't fear driven, and I personally believe it's perhaps purposeful.

(08:01):
We can get into that too, But that is why
I met you. That's why I contacted you, just so
you could divert people to an alternative, and you contacted
me then said let's talk. What do you have to
say about that?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
So you do have a website, I don't think you
have any products for sale or you're trying to convince anybody.
You're just simply showing up with your story and you've
been doing your own independent research by having your own encounters,
which anybody can do, and then we just show up
to the table and talk about them right exactly. So
this is your first interview as well.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, it's funny it's my first video interview. I have
had a couple only two other chances to exercise this
skill which I'm building, and they were audio. But yeah,
this is my first interview. And the reason is it's
a very important reason. It taps into the money thing.

(09:00):
I am doing this for free. I'm doing this for
my own joy and my own exploration of what is life.
And so I have a certain perspective. I'm being shown
certain things and I want to I want to I

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want to share that with other people. I don't want
them to have to buy my videos. And so in
terms of the joy factor, you know, I put that
into these videos and films. But I also want to
build a community, and so part of what my website
is is, as you say, people coming up to the table.
Eventually I'll have some other pages on there, like a

(09:45):
forum where people can just exchange ideas and perspectives with
each other. But I am somewhat new to this, and
so so far what I have is films and I
have a submissions page, and the goal is really to
build a global community of people who have maybe not
felt like they were welcome to share what they were

(10:07):
seeing and filming themselves, their own photos, their own experience.
I have a woman in Liverpool who emailed me shortly
after I started this project and she submitted, you know,
a picture of it, like the teeniest, tiniest little orb.
But she was filled with such immense joy in sharing
it because she was not made fun of. And she

(10:30):
had said that, you know, throughout her life she had
seen many many orbs and really everyone around her was
telling her it was not real. What she was seeing
was not real and they were just Chinese lanterns, which
is so creative, it's like, wow, why that? But she
was not feeling like she was welcome to share her experiences,

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and no one really believed what she was seeing. And
so my goal is to just create this very big
skywatcher community global. Anyone can come to the table. No
one has to pay. Borders of countries are meaningless. The
skies belong to us all. It does not matter who

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you are or where you're from. It's all part of
the experience and we share it and that's the point.
We share it. And so it's not me as being
like this star like having certain sorts of things that
only I get to see. It's really important to me
to welcome everyone and to show that, in fact, god,

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I don't even know how many, maybe millions are seeing this.
They're seeing this everywhere, They're seeing it, and they are
starting to share it. And so I'm creating a platform
where we get to support each other and show each
other that we are not alone. We are not alone,
and we're not crazy. We are actually seeing these things.

(12:01):
We're seeing a lot of similarity across the board. So,
for instance, I would just say, one of the really
interesting things that I'm filming is is what I would
call orbs. And I don't know what an ORB is.
I'm just saying it. What I came up with with
the beginning of my project, as you know for my homepages.

(12:23):
Let me just begin with this. I had never ever
ever been a part of any UFO community. I had
never ever spent any time investigating this. And we can
go into reasons for this. I've thought about it before
this interview, but just to stick with this ORB thing,
I had no language for what I was seeing. I

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did not know how to describe what I was seeing,
and so at first, when I was doing my first films,
I just called them light objects, and then with the orbs,
I called them orb because they were round. So what
is an orbit? And one of my sons asked me,
what is it? What is it? What are you filming?

(13:10):
And I said, I don't know. I just know that
it is a light object. It emits light, and it
has a structure, and its structure is round, and within
the round structure there are all there's a beautiful architecture.
It's like bones into humans or veins, but it's it

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is veins of light, bones of light within a round structure.
And he could accept them as like, okay, I can
go there. Personally, I feel like these are I feel
like these are beings and they are projecting themselves into
our reality, our visible reality, our visible light spectrum, so

(13:58):
that we can see them we are willing and if
we are ready. Yeah, so what are your questions about that?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, you've got some really awesome video footage on your
website where you've you've actually filmed them, And like you said,
I think we're seeing different things. It's not just UFOs,
it's not just aliens, it's not just angels and demons
or whatever. We want good or bad. There's a whole

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plethora of entities and beings and shapes and colors, all
types of stuff that's going on out there. You've got
some footage of these round or sphere looks like to
be vehicles with lights going around them. They'll light up
with maybe something looks like two big headlights that come

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on and turn off at will, and then another one
will pop up next to it. Really funny that because
I watched I watched that video you posted, and a
friend of mine who's in the chain right now home
saw so I'm gonna have him on the on the
podcast at the end of the month. He just went
out and filmed his own video footage and it looks
very similar to the one that you shared, but I

(15:12):
think it was. I think it was. It was during
the day and they lit up during the day, and
where there's one in the sky and then another one
pops up just a little ways off from it, like
the same distance and everything. It's very similar to what
other people are seeing. So we have what looks to
be craft. Maybe maybe entities or beings, physical beings made

(15:36):
of matter are on this ship. Possibly possibly it's some
type of drone, some belief. But then there's other things
people are seeing, like the orbs and things you're talking about,
or there's stuff out there that doesn't even have a
shape or form. It's moving like gases and changing and
morphing and turning into star patterns and weird stuff that's

(15:59):
going on. And I think some times we're seeing actual
entities or angelic host as we would call them according
to different religious text So what's the difference. Have you
seen what you look at and it's like an entity?
I was told that even even the term cherubim means

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a living entity, like it's an actual entity versus a
vehicle or something like that. Do you feel like do
you resonate with with that? That there's some that are
a machine maybe nuts and bolts, not necessarily by us,
but it's like a physical matter.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I do resonate with that completely. There's one film I did.
I was doing some filming of this red orange light
object that appeared really often above this sort of had
an angle away from but above this building, above my

(17:03):
city scape in San Francisco, and it moved around, it
moved around, and when I would go in close with
my camera and just to say again, I have a
professional camera because I'm a filmmaker, so I could go in.
I had a very good zoom, and this object was
really moving around the sky in this sort of small area,

(17:25):
but very very active. And later after I digitize my footage,
I could of course go through it slower and anytime
I stopped the footage or most times, it would take
on an angelic shape. So it was broadcasting light with
wings above the shoulders, arms shoulders, a body legs ahead,

(17:52):
and this happened again and again. It happened again and again.
Through the footage. It did morph into other shapes, but
it really made me. It made me wonder what it was,
and it made me reconsider. It didn't look like a ship.
It didn't look like as you say. You know, there's

(18:13):
other footage I have where you can see the little
round lights around the body of what you can see
is it has to be a ship. It is so
uniform and so structural architectural, and they stay in relation
to each other. So they do seem to be lights
around an object, which I consider to be a ship.

(18:35):
In this case, it was not that way. It was
an energetic being that was just in my skies and
it came again and again to this angelic shape again
and again, and it's exquisite and it made me consider
our history. So I did a film on that where

(18:58):
I went back, I found all it's really beautiful of
four thousand year old rock paintings, you know, petroglyphs where
you could see you could see a being with wings.
And then you know back you know, through the centuries
there were many wonderful paintings with beings with wings, and

(19:21):
fast forward to today to that shape. And that's what
I was saying, is you know, if I were walking
down the street three thousand years ago and it was
at night and I saw this being and it showed
these wings and it was sort of blasting in its
light in and out of the sky around me, I
would just say, that's an angel And people can agree

(19:45):
with me or not. It kind of doesn't matter. It's
really what you it's what you want to believe. And
the shape, what is so beautiful is that shape is
consistent over time. And that leads me to think that
this angelic being and also the ships they are, they

(20:07):
have been with us over time. This is not a
new thing. It's new to us, and more and more
of us are able to see it and film it.
But it's not new. They've they've been with us through time.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Do you think that you just happen to catch these
these sightings and then get them on video. Do you
think that it was just coincidence how everybody's able to
see them? I mean, because there's people who don't believe
who are who are filming things going on in the skies.
Do you think or do you think it was planned?

(20:42):
Do you think you were somewhat contacted, like they wanted
you to see them and record it and thus change
your life course essentially to start this website, try to
start this community. Do you think that they contacted you
for that reason?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I do. I do think that, but I think they can.
I think they contacted me because I was ready and
I can. I'd like to go into that because this
really might help your viewers and listeners just as a
consideration something that they might want to consider for themselves.
But first of all, I have the equipment, I have

(21:24):
the skills to make these films. I know how to
do narration, I've made documentaries. I have an edit system.
So you could look at it as just like the
physicality of it and the skill bit was there with me,
but the consciousness was not there with me until I
began seeing them the first time on March of twenty seventeen.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
And wow, it hasn't even been that long.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's not been long. It's been like a major like
torpedo into my life and it has changed my life completely.
And I have a funny thing I'll go into why
I think my consciousness changed. But somebody was asking me
what I call myself, and my nickname is Missy. I said,
you could call me Missy and one of my sons

(22:15):
piped up, he goes, or you could call yourself starchild
because it's just been a big it's been a big
thing for everyone, Right where's this coming from? But for me,
I don't think it's a coincidence. And I'd like your
opinion on this, because I think that you've been in
this so much longer than I have. Okay, but it

(22:37):
was in the late fall of twenty sixteen, so literally
six months before I began seeing the ships, only six months.
I had a tremendous urge that I could not deny
to meditate. And meditation is not in my family background,

(22:57):
It's not almost no one I know does that. So
it was odd that it would come in so strongly right,
and that the urge was coupled with that I needed
to meditate with crystals. And so this was way outside
my box. It was way outside the box of really
anyone I hang with. And yet I, you know, I uh,

(23:21):
I did it. I just I needed to do this.
I did it. I wanted to do it, and it
led me into a really open doorway of looking at
what is inside, what is inside me as opposed to
what is outside me. And it was an introduction. It

(23:45):
wasn't my first introduction, but I'll keep it simple. It
was a continuing introduction that there is life beyond the
five senses, and that life beyond the five senses is
equally real, perhaps more powerful, perhaps you know, many more
opportunities for life and for living, for experience, for connection.

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And so I really loved it, and I meditated often
with crystals, and I had many, many beautiful visualizations. It
was it was just an internal adventure is really not
the right word. It's almost too cheesy. It was. It
was a blissful experience that I had never had before,

(24:34):
and I had deep respect for it and wanted to
continue Okay. So six months later, I get up in
the middle of the night, I can't sleep. It's three
thirty in the morning, and walking around in my bathrobe,
you know, for an hour to then try and sleep again,
and I look out my windows and I see something

(24:57):
I've never seen before. I see these two massive if
you compare them to the buildings, you know, two very
very large orange round objects that glow orange red, and
they're just hanging there. They're hanging there above the buildings

(25:20):
in San Francisco, and I think, wow, I mean, am
I really seeing that? And so I went and got
my cell phone. I took some still images, and I
also took some short videos, and I get up the
next day and sure enough, they are just exactly what

(25:40):
I thought they were. They were I will call them
UFOs because I have no idea what they were to
at this point. I think they were craft of some
kind from this perspective, but then, you know, Okay, So
the next day, I wake up at dawn. It's very ray,
very gray light, and I see these. I look out

(26:04):
the window just because of what I'd seen, and I
see these very softt gray too orbs just sort of
floating around and I take some pictures a video of
that too, very short, and I'm really starting starting to
get my attention in a serious way. The next night,

(26:26):
I wake up. Let's just say one again. You know,
I'm going through a period of life which is perhaps
purposeful that I'm being waked up. I'm being waked up
on many levels. I'm being waked up, spiritually, waked up
in terms of my consciousness and physically they are waking
me up. So I get up awakening, having it awakening

(26:49):
on all these levels. And so I take my camera
and I go look out my window, and I see
the most beautiful, unusual red light, which is not the
ones that I saw before. As I go in close,
it splits into two two owls right next to each other,
and the patterning on the outside of it is just

(27:13):
it's gorgeous, and it's really unusual. And perhaps it's a
marker of who and what it is. Maybe that's its ID,
you know, what it puts on the skin of it. Shit,
lets everyone know, here's who I am, Here's where I'm from.
But it was something I had never seen. And after that,
you know, I just got up the next day and

(27:35):
i'd like to get into the fear aspect of this topic,
if you will. The next day I woke up and
I just said, for whatever reason, for what, because you know,
probably because of meditating, I am experiencing a different level
of reality than I've ever experienced before. I have the
equipment to explore it, and I have the curious nature

(27:58):
to explore it. I'm not afraid. All of these encounters,
I didn't run in fear. I didn't have a trigger
for that. I simply had a trigger for I was very,
very very excited and joyful to see what I saw,
and I was very curious. And so I think that

(28:22):
that too made me somebody that they would come to
and say, you do it because you're not afraid. However,
I know there are lots of people around me who
are afraid. And there is an aspect of fear that
I'd like to talk about that I did participate in.
It wasn't really fear, but this would get into Project

(28:42):
Bluebook and our the way our culture, our government strategically
in doctor makes fear on this topic or it says,
go away from this topic. So here I was my
entire life. I never had anything to do with UFOs.
I never I'm a. I'm an extremely curious person, which

(29:02):
is what led me into journalism and filmmaking and all that.
It is a leading aspect of my mind, of my personality,
and yet I stayed away from that. And it's such
a beautiful, interesting topic, right, It's huge, it's huge that
we would not be alone in the universe is really important.
So I started to think, leading up to this conversation

(29:26):
with you that actually I did participate in an aspect
of fear, which was I stayed away. I definitely was
alive and a way to the shunning that is strategic
on this topic, and I just didn't look into it.

(29:47):
So I wasn't afraid per se. I just didn't do it.
But when this happened, when I started seeing this, I
just decided, this is the most fascinating, unfold holding story,
and I'm going to follow this wherever it leads, and
I'm going to enjoy every step of the way. And

(30:12):
I would just like to say that these holly Hollywood
movies about I just want everyone to remember, Okay, these
things that I'm filming and other people around the world
are filming in their own skies, all of us together,
there might be a million of us that might be
worn people who are just being quiet. These are real,
whereas the Hollywood movies are fake. They're fake, they're fiction.

(30:37):
They are not real, and they are designed. I'll go further.
You know, everybody growing up, we all know this. We
like a good thrill, and especially if it's a contained thrill.
So it's only contained in two hours. It's a two
hour movie and then boom, we're gone. But what I
really have come to think is that actually the way

(31:02):
energy works is that that fear, that tremendous fear that
that movie is designed to deliver to your energy field,
to your mind, to your subconscious, perhaps to your heart.
I don't know, that stays with you. It is almost
like it becomes it becomes a button that can be

(31:29):
pressed whenever that topic is raised. Then you go and
you see a really scary movie about ET's and UFOs
and they kill you and they do whatever they do
to you. And then somebody ten months later raises the
topic of ET's and UFOs, and boom, that presses that button.
It's a trigger, It becomes a trigger, and then what
you have to do is you have to do the

(31:51):
work of getting rid of that fear. Fear is. Fear
is a really useful thing. I'm not dis in fear.
So when we walk down the street and there's something
scary happening, we are wise enough through our fear to
know to run. And so it's very good. But what
fear does. Fear takes you out of the larger part

(32:13):
of your mind. It takes you out of your heart,
It takes you out of any part of you that
allows you to have a higher perspective on what is
going on in your life and what's going on in
front of your eyes. Right. It basically takes you into
what's called your reptilian brain. It's the oldest, oldest part
of your brain, maybe as old as the dinosaurs, and

(32:35):
it is the one that tells you run run now.
It's a very narrow bandwidth and it does not allow
critical thinking. It does not allow curiosity, it does not
allow love, it does not allow a friendly interaction, doesn't
allow any of that. And so I guess my advice

(32:57):
would be, don't watch those scared movies about ET's and
UFOs if you would like to contact them.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, definitely, I like, uh, purposely didn't watch it. Was
a movie came out called The Fourth Kind, somebody commented here,
and it was definitely an abduction, you know. And it
was done in the in the form of like the
Blair Witch Project, almost like it was a documentary or
something that was real, these these real experiences, but in

(33:27):
the end it was made up, you know. And so
I made sure when I seen those previews and stuff,
I made sure I didn't watch that because I'm going
out having my own encounters, and it was already hard
enough to get over the fear that I had from
the stuff I seen as as a child. Thankfully, I've
seen some good Hollywood movies as a child too, you know,

(33:50):
Close Encounters of the of the Fourth Kind. There was
Flight as a Navigator. There was Cocoon was a really
good one. So there was us still some good stuff
from like the eighties and stuff that I seen when
I was a kid that I remembered. So those battled
in my mind what was real. And I guess when

(34:10):
it comes to the whole discussion of good aliens and
bad aliens, that's part of that battle there as well.
So yeah, getting rid of the fear and what you
do with the fear that comes some people, it gets
them out of trouble. Some people make the right decisions.
Some people, if there's an intruder or a robber who

(34:31):
comes in, you get into a defense mode and you
subdue that robber. Some people, when that fear comes in,
they clam up, they can't move, and when they should
do the right thing, they don't. So fear affects people
people differently differently, So when it comes to that, I
would definitely say stay away from any of the of

(34:53):
the scary stuff, and most of that stuff, like you said,
it's fake, it's Hollywood renditions, and some of the good
stories now, like the movie Fire in the Sky was
a big one which scared a lot of people scared.
I was a little kid and watched that that come
out to be the essentially the opposite of what really
happened of what Travis Walton really experienced was something beautiful

(35:17):
and Hollywood. He sold his story to Hollywood. They painted
it and made this fear based video. So if you
if you do see craft, if you're on the side
of the highway and you're broke down, or you flash
your lights in a vehicle and there's a ship or
something that flashes back at you in the night sky,
that you won't try to make contact with it. So

(35:37):
as far as stepping back and seeing what's going on,
I strongly feel like the good guys are out there,
that those are the angels of the Holy Books and
things like that, and those who were who are we
would call fallen angels or the bad guys. I think
they're running the show down here on the earth, and
they are the ones with the smear campaigns, and stay

(35:59):
away from from that. And you're going to be targeted.
And if you talk about this openly, we're going to
come after your family. I have people I'm trying to
get interviews with right now and they will not go
live with me because they're scared of what's going to
happen to them, you know, and things like this, And
so it is about moving past the fear of every
aspect and living in your authentic self. And if you're

(36:21):
interested in this stuff, I come from the fear base
as well, because I come from religion. I come from
Christianity where and the main thought in Christianity is that
these are demons, These are fallen angels abducting people, patrolling
our night skies and things like this, deceiving people. This
is what they believe. So for me to come out

(36:42):
of a Christian background, and I was an evangelist in
the Christian Church, and for me to start talking about
my encounters and even want to pursue these encounters to
be authentic with myself, that was a big fear that
I had to get over and many people watching who
come from that background, because if you start talking, you
have to be led to podcasts like this, you have

(37:04):
to be led to documentaries or websites like yours where
you see people talking about it freely without judgment. I
had no idea who to talk to. I had to
find podcasts and stuff like that for my own. The
next question I wanted to kind of go into is like,
when you're having these contact you feel like it was
set up for a reason, which I do too. They
maybe they targeted you because they knew that you would

(37:27):
do something about it, that you would make their presence
known or tell people, and you wouldn't be afraid and
things like that. I believe that with contact comes awakening.
Maybe they go hand in hand. Maybe there was some
consciousness stuff going on first, and then the UFO stuff
just like propelled it. I know it did for me.
It took took it to new levels and new heights

(37:48):
that those realms were real. Where did they go when
they leave? Like all of the creativity, the awe and
the wonder and we're not alone, All of that stuff
just fed into the awakening process. But I wanted to
ask you with the cloaking mechanisms and stuff like that,
we see them, they appear, they're gone. They let you
see them. A lot of times when I would have sightings,
they would show up, they say, hey, look at me,

(38:10):
I look, Oh my god, and then they were gone,
and it was like, Okay, I just wanted you to
see me to let I wanted to let you know
I'm watching you and everything's okay, like I'm your guardian angels. Essentially,
was there any telepathic communication that happened when you would
when you would see these crafts. Were you getting what
we call downloads of whether it's a consciousness shift and upgrade?

(38:33):
Do you feel like they're saying hello? At least I.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Do feel they are, and I feel like that is
more of that is to come. I feel like I
feel like so far what it is is that they
wake me up and they say get up.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, to get up we're out here now, And I
get up and I pick up my camera and there
they are, and.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
So I spend some time with them, and in some
of my films, I do absolutely feel telepathy is happening.
I feel it's really happening more on their side, although
I am becoming more able to be that on my
side too. It's been a year now, and so I
feel like there have been films that I have and
experiences I have where I ask them with my voice,

(39:26):
so not telepathically. Okay, can you you know, very simple
things like can you move to the left, can you
dine your light brighter? YadA, YadA YadA? Do you hear me?
Flash three times? If you hear me? Or if I've
seen you before? Are you someone I've seen before? And
they'll do it, And so they just realistically and just

(39:48):
think about it. They are way outside my window, They're
a few miles up in the sky, they are surrounded
by wins and you know, city noise and all that.
There's simply logic would lead you to know they can't
hear my voice behind my window.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
In my house, even if it was the government, because
some people think that it's the government. We're seeing government
and craft. But then I think the telepathic communication gets
in it totally, you know, dismisses that that the government.
We're communicating with government agents out there.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
You know, I totally agree with you. I think it's
entirely possible. Let's just say we know that now that
let's get into this a little bit. This is really fun.
We know, for the first time in the history of
the Pentagon this year, the Pentagon is being audited, and
we know it's because there are as much as twenty

(40:48):
three or twenty plus trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon budget.
No one knows where it went. It's it's not accounted for.
And so what I believe, and there are many others
who believe this choose it's going into you know there.
Why wouldn't they into their experiments in terms of their

(41:09):
space program things they don't want people to participate in
or know about. So I don't really get the vibe
that like a government, even if there is a government
spaceship up there, I don't really believe it would be
in their interest considering their secrecy, which I think is pathological. Personally, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Think they want us to know any of any of
that stuff that's going on. I think that even the
stuff that they've been releasing lately, even the stuff that
I think it's because they have to be because disclosures
taking place within dis guise like disclosure is happening with normal, average,
everyday individuals, so they have to well, we know what's happening.

(41:52):
You know, they have to. Now they're going to give
us some information you know, they can control, so that
they can control the narrative or try to anyway, but
they can't.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I agree with you completely, and I agree with you
that you know there are the Guardian Angel type of
ships that are up in the skies. They could have
they could have destroyed us, Oh yeah, millions of years ago.
I mean if they can come in, pop in and
pop out of our dimension, our reality. I mean it's
just impossible to think that if they've wanted to do

(42:26):
as harm, they would have done it. The ones that
are doing is harm are on this planet. Yes, I
completely agree with you.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Messing with our food and doing all types of wickedness
and the really we will talking about what's demonic, you know,
this type of stuff that they're doing, and say, if
they wanted to destroy us, they would have been did
it a long time ago? They've been here since the beginning.
They've been here since we were a very primitive people.
It's recorded throughout the art. It's recorded throughout the history book,

(42:55):
the books, the cave writings, the Renaissance religious art, the
early Christian mystics in the early they all believe that
these were the angelic heavenly hosts, the angelic armies, which
those terms break down to. I love it because in
the scriptures it talks about the Seraphim, which talks about
it calls them the fiery ones. These are these angelic

(43:17):
armies that travel back and forth from heaven to Earth,
and they're called the fiery ones or the fiery serpents.
Serpents as one who brings knowledge, and these are angelic
beings that have our greater good in mind, and we
just so happen if we want to, if you're curious enough,
if you have the time, you can go out there
and see them. You can make contact with them. That
they appear to the prophets and disciples throughout the religious texts.

(43:41):
And I like the Renaissance art, even some of the
earth the newer stuff anyway, with just the last couple
hundred years, we're showing Jesus hanging on the cross with
men flying these little bitty fiery ships with little men,
and I'm piling them back in like from the fifteen hundreds,
and stuff pictures of the Mona Lisa and Mother Mary.

(44:03):
If you look in the background as a person standing
on a mountain pointing up at a little UFO, and
there's pictures of UFO sending laser beams towards people's head
giving them downloads of knowledge. This was very much a
part of the early religious traditions, whether it's Christian or whatever.

(44:24):
They're in every holy book, they're in every people group,
and Native Americans talks about the the star beings who
came here and was their ancestors that seated them here.
All of it ties in together and it's nothing to
be afraid of. It's very much a part of our
fabric our DNA, and if you're religious, it's part of

(44:47):
your religion.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I totally agree with you. I mean, I would like
to go. It's sort of an offshoot into Project Blue
Book because it's sort of like it's a part of history.
It's really not taught in schools. It's only if you
want to seek outside of what you've been taught that
you actually come upon this and you learn about this,

(45:12):
and then you start seeing it in the art, as
you say, you start seeing it in the oral tradition
and histories of the native peoples. It's there, it's been
there forever, but it's not taught to us. And so
why is there such a wall? And there are I
have some ideas on that, but I would just say

(45:32):
that one example of how we are forcibly repelled from
pursuing any interest inns and any sort of deep dive
into our own history and to the presence of these
beings and these ships, you know, throughout time as helpers
is there was this really interesting program which I know

(45:57):
you know about, started in the late forties, went through
the late sixties called Project Blue Book in the United States,
and it was overseen by the United States Air Force.
And what they did is, you know, purportedly they were
going to investigate citizen sidings of UFOs. What they did
instead was again very pathological and it was very strategic.

(46:20):
What they did is anytime somebody reported, you know, some
Joe Schmoe in his backyard, you know, saw a ship
for seven seconds. They would come, they would interview Josh
Woe and then they would go and actually interview his boss,
his colleagues, his neighbors, his friends, and they would the

(46:42):
interview would be based around a character assessment. Was he
a good human? Was he a good person? Was he
a good citizen? Was he an enemy of the government?
You know, it was this kind of stuff. It was
very scary stuff. I mean, think of that time was
after World War two, really really scary era.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Almost like almost like the witch hunts.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
It's like I was just saying, it was. It was
very much witch hunting. And so if you were a
person and then what they did with that, So, first
of all, the fallout of that would be I could
imagine there could be some big fallout on your job.
You know, your boss would be like, hey, you're doing
some crazy stuff here.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Hey business my podcast?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, definitely you're threatening by business here. Your friends would
be like, oh, I need to melt away from this person.
They're kind of they're getting the negative attention of our
US government. You could easily imagine the fallout of that
that there would be an isolation factor that would happen,
and then that person would be scared into silence. If

(47:48):
they ever saw another thing, would they ever report it? No,
they would have a record, and then this is a
pathological part or one of them is. Then Project Blue
Book classified the sightings. And so by doing that, you
know that is just like a that is like a
control thing, that's control freak to the nth degree. But

(48:12):
also it keeps people separated from each other. So there
might be somebody in your neighborhood that saw the same thing,
or perhaps saw something similar a week later, and eventually,
through the grapevine you would find each other and you
would talk, and through the graape mind you'd find other people.
What they did is they created silos around people of

(48:35):
individual sightings, and they created fears so people would not
say another thing again because they might use their job,
they might lose more friends, it might create friction in
their family. And so that happened in that time period,
and then you follow it and trace it through the
films which continue that of like, this is a scary thing,
this is not something to be sought out, and you

(48:58):
can understand why people would have just like it would
be a very fringeified topic. And I think it's the
goal of many of us, including you to say, all right,
it's time to just get rid of the fringe aspect.
We're just normal people out here and we're going to mainstream.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
This definitely, and I talk about it all the time,
and it's something that I had to overcome and step
out there and say, you know what, I'm doing it regardless.
And I'm not the only one who had these encounters.
I was alone for a lot of it, but eventually
my friends came with me. They had very similar encounters.
We would go stargazing for hours. We would spend nights

(49:37):
under the stars and see amazing aerial phenomenon. They would do,
like you're talking about, hey, can you move to the left,
can you show up? Can you show me two or
three of them? I mean, just insane stuff that we
were seeing. And I wasn't alone, but my friends were like,
they would tell me not to talk about it because
what if they found out on your job, what if

(49:59):
the parents find out, what if my pastor finds out?
And it's the very things that you can consider. I
had to consider it. I didn't. I didn't want to
be the UFO guy or the weird crazy guy at
family reunion that type of thing too. But It comes
down to how bad do you want it? Like we
would I would be doing somebody uh disserviced not to

(50:22):
not to speak about it because I fear about my
reputation more than I care about the truth, right, I
care about the truth, and that that's what it comes
down to me. Whether people say, oh, man, I want
what you're on, whatever you had, I want some of that,
like look completely sober, having these encounters and things like that.
But my friends told me not to speak about it,

(50:43):
and many people it was a bunch of us have
these encounters and they won't speak about it. So therefore
I say it because I have to. I have to
say it because they won't, so I have to say it.
But it's paid off. Now now you got a good podcast. Now,
oh you're known for that. Now you can talk about

(51:03):
it because you got a pocket. I didn't. I haven't.
It has always been like that, like I started talking
about it, and then you become a beacon or other
people beay, hey, man, I have similar stories too. Everybody
comment in the chat section. Everybody's had their own encounters.
Everybody's had something similar, and they're waiting. We're waiting. I

(51:24):
was waiting for someone to stand up and say, look,
this is what I'm experiencing. I'm this, I'm that. I
definitely cater more towards like the religious community or in
the spiritual community as well, because those people who call
themselves Christians or whatever have that belief. They're having these
encounters too, but if they talk about it, they're demon eyes,

(51:44):
they're called crazy, You're in a UFO cult, whatever people
tend to say or whatever. But that's why there's a
responsibility to talk about it. And it wasn't always easy.
Now it's kind of paid off. I have people who
support me, They follow it, they share it out, they
love it, they can't wait for every episode. They loved
the discussion. It wasn't always like that, Like it totally

(52:05):
wasn't always like that. You had to keep doing it.
And it's essentially like being the forerunner or breaking the
you know, the hard ground to plant the seed and
now the harvest is coming. Now people say, oh, I
want to do it too, I want to do it.
You're like, fine, good, I'm glad that I'm that beacon.
But it wasn't always just easy, man, you know, it

(52:27):
was not.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
And I'll pick up on that, like when I began
this project. It was pretty interesting because I felt all
the things that you're talking about, the potential pushback. So
one of my sons even was concerned that it would
affect my career, that if anyone found out that I

(52:49):
was doing this, that I would lose clients. Yeah, and
so that was exactly what you're talking about. I decided
I was going to do it anyway. And he had
a really interesting perspective. He just said, Okay, what you
in doing this project? You have taken on a mission,
and your mission is to shake yourself up, and you're

(53:14):
in shaking yourself up, in showing these films of things
that people don't want to acknowledge are real. You have
decided that part of your mission is to shake them
up to and I respect that, and I think there's
part of that that's true. But I would take it

(53:34):
as a much more benevolent mission, which is that I
have taken a mission to open myself up to explore
reality that's larger than what I knew, and it's very beautiful,
and to offer it up to anyone who wants to partake,
and if they don't, that is fine, and if they do,

(53:58):
here you go and it's just like what you said
you started your podcast. You're just offering it. People can
come to it, they can listen to it if they want.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
It's the beauty of it now, the people who res it.
I don't have to proselytize. I don't have to knock
on your door or show up at your Bible study
and say, hey, you guys believe in UFOs. I got
a podcast. Like search terms and the Internet and Spotify,
everything's in the way now that whatever you're looking for,
just like the universe, whatever you're looking for, you're gonna

(54:30):
find it. You have to get on there and type in,
or you have to click that video that says, you know,
Melissa Peabody my first UFO encounter. You have to click
that video and watch it. That's your own free will
that led you here. And so that's the thing. We
don't have to force anything down anybody's throat. If you're
not ready for it, if you're not open to it, fine.

(54:52):
There's some especially on YouTube, like right here beside my head,
people who are watching this, there's probably a ton of
other videos that you can just scroll through and click
about any other subject. But you're here for a reason.
You know, if you're led here for a reason, you've
been listening for this long, something within you has called
you here for a reason, and that's what it's about.
That reason is what brings us all together. And there's

(55:14):
something of substance here. It's not just you're here by
accident or anybody you know, for the larger picture that
anybody's here by accident, Like, there's stuff going on that
lets us know that we're not alone. If it's a
belief in God, now, if it's a belief in the divine,
if it's a belief in my life has meaning, whatever
it is for different people, it brings something to the

(55:36):
table that matters for me. Like a lot of my
Christian friends early on, they would get scared of this
subject because there's the whole thing that aliens seated you here,
and then the Bible is fake, and the Bible is
made up in all of this kind of stuff. And
so they if for some reason in their head the
understanding that if these aliens exist, if these entities exist,

(56:00):
then the Bible is a hoax. But for me, like
these encounters prove the Bible, like it talks about these
angels flying back and forth and fasting, going out on
a mountain, and these angels appearing to you like I've
done it, like it's in the scriptures, the Universal Law
and all of these beautiful things. So it doesn't take
away that the fact of the that the Bible is

(56:22):
fake or whatever the case, doesn't bring that to the table,
but it brings the fact that, no, it's real, like
there's something that's physically going on out there, not when
you die and your spirit travels to another place, like, no,
there's another place out there right now, and they're traveling
back and forth, watching over us, communicating, sending messages. It's encouraging.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I find very encouraging too. I find it very very comforting.
One thing that I would like to say it is
really interesting. I definitely wanted to say this because I
know that James gilllan interview and I've heard some other
ones with him, and he's very good about he's very
good about I forget his but basically clearing negative unseen entities.

(57:07):
So I would like to say, you know, for anyone listening,
I'm completely not a Pollyanna on the subject where I
just assume everything is rainbows and my experience, my feelingling
from orbs that I am seeing. I get a very
definite feeling of love from them. I would call it love.

(57:30):
Someone else might call it it's a good feeling. Whatever
you're comfortable, whatever words are comfortable. It's very positive. Let's
just say that. And I trust in my gut feeling
of what I'm receiving from them. I also very consciously,
and this is what I would vise anyone who's listening
to do if they want to have it counters on
their own. Just like you look at the spectrum of

(57:51):
humanitis globe. The spectrum, you know, can go from really beautiful,
intensely beautiful, loving beings in so to others, and then
you can go to the other end of the spectrum
and they are hideous and they're in service only to
themselves in any hideous way that they can get away with.
That spectrum is.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Real on our planet, just like people.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah, just like people. And so it's unrealistic to think
that in the universe out there, if we're talking about
ets and UFOs, it's it's not possible to think that
the entire universe is all beautiful and good. It is
very possible to know that there's an entire swath of
beings who are dedicated to the good, who are dedicated

(58:35):
to service to others, who are here in service to us,
who are here to help the planet. They're here to
help us, and that's why they're here. But there are
other entities around and about, and I would would I
would add to what James has to say in that.
My own version of that is when I want to encounter,

(59:02):
you know, see, if there's anybody in my skies tonight,
I opened my heart. I consciously open my heart. So
I'm sending out a frequency of love energy period and
there's nothing, there is nothing that can come into that
frequency that is less than that. I'm setting the table.
I'm setting the boundaries of the encounter, so whatever I

(59:26):
see is matching that frequency. Another way to do it
that I've been advised is and it does the same thing.
You basically, you basically decide, you know, in and of
yourself as a conscious being, that you are sovereign. You
are your own sovereign being, and nobody can control you, nobody,

(59:49):
and so you control your experience. You are sovereign, and
you set a boundary saying I call in, I call in.
Only the ships of the life is one way you
can say it, I call in the beings of the light,
or if you're uncomfortable with that kind of language, and
there is actually a metaphysical reason for that. Language is
very precise, and I can go into that like but

(01:00:12):
you could also say, I call in the ships that
benefit me, that are beneficial. I call in the beings
that are beneficial. And if that's more comfortable to you.
When I say of the light, it is from my
own researches over this past year. It's very specific. And

(01:00:37):
so when you have beings, whether they're human or not,
and they are basically in service to what anyone would
call the light that is around us literally the energy
they bring in their life force by being open to
receiving the energy that is around us through your chakra system,

(01:01:02):
let's just call it that or whatever. If you do that,
if you consciously want to be a part of this
light universe, and you bring in your source energy, you
bring in source energy through your chopra system, and that's
where you get your energy, then you are a being
of the light. You don't have to bring in Jesus

(01:01:23):
or anybody else. You're simply a being of the light
because you were supported by the energy that is swirling
around you that comes from source. There are beings that
are not of the light, and this is what in
the Bible you would call the fallen angels. And these
are beings who have said I want to set up

(01:01:43):
an anti universe. I don't want to bring in I
want to cut myself off from the light that is
literally around my body. Okay, it's just right there, but
I'm not going to take it. And they bring in
their energy from dark sources, and that would be from
other people were to say a lie, that's what they do.

(01:02:05):
And so when I say I call it the ships
of the light, it's very metaphysically precise. It's not religious
and it's not your or whatever. It's like I want
those beings who are bringing in source energy the same
way that I am, and that way we have a
connection that's natural.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Yeah, it's very you know what, I like the science
behind the spirituality, and so you know, the way my
mind works is I did I come from a religious background,
so I know the religious thought here I'm reading some
of it in the chat right now. Well, just let
it by know. We welcome everybody to the podcast, no
matter your religious background. Or upbringing no belief system. But

(01:02:48):
from a biblical perspective, to say the same thing that
you're saying, it's just sending that making that declaration. You
know you have to say a prayer, it's a declaration.
I'm declaring it, I'm speaking it. Therefore I'm creating it
as I speak it. My words are powerful. But from
a biblical perspective, there's a story where Jesus talks about

(01:03:09):
those of you who are asking your heavenly Father. So
when I had my encounters, I'm out there spending time
with my heavenly Father in prayer, reflecting about my life,
reflecting about my journey, and wanting to see asking my
Heavenly Father through the Holy Spirit. Can I see the
seraphim and literally quite God, if the Cherubim are real,

(01:03:31):
if the elohem are real, and they're traveling back and forth,
please allow me to see one. I'm your servant, I
trust you, I believe in you. Will you allow me
to see one? Anything out there that has my greater
good in mind? Can I see it? And then I'm
almost begging. I really want it to happen. I'm willing
it to happen. I want it to happen so bad,
just to know the way the universe works, the way

(01:03:52):
God works, the way the Bible works, all of this
kind of stuff. And so there's a scripture where Jesus
says that those of you who ask your father for
a fish, he's not going to throw you a serpent.
Those of you ask your father for a loaf of bread,
he's not going to throw you a stone. Essentially, if
you're asking for something good, if you're declaring it, I'm

(01:04:16):
asking for an angelic encounter. I'm asking to see the
angels of light, the seraphim, the fiery serpents, if I'm
asking to see them. But he sent a demon to
me to abduct me, or a demon to deceive me.
It doesn't work like that, Oh yea of little faith.
Some people's mind works like that. And I was told that,
you know, be careful, you might get abducted. Say no,
I'm one with my father, like I'm connected with the

(01:04:39):
source of the one who created all of this. We
all are. We have to tap into that and know
who we are. But there's a confidence in that and
not knowing that, what if I did get abducted, Like
we created, we're creating this right now, even this is
just a piece of our ability. We're made in the
image and likeness of that creator to breathe and create

(01:04:59):
something like this beautiful episode and have this conversation that
we're doing now. That is, I believe, given strength to people,
given letting people know, like you said, that they're not
alone in the universe or in these encounters. It's okay
to be different, It's okay to have these encounters. It's
okay to not know what the hell is going on.
Sometimes we're trying to figure it out. And that's the

(01:05:20):
beauty of it. Not to demonize everything or to think
that there's wicked behind every corner. Trust me, there's people
out there like that who can't see the good in anything.
But I'm with you in the battle of good and evil.
I'm with you. I mean, that's just universal law. For
there to be anything positive, there has to be negative.

(01:05:42):
If there has to be if there's anything light and
that is good, we have to have a contrast of darkness.
How good. We don't even know that it's light unless
we have something to contrast to, if it's something in darkness,
if we've ever been in a time of darkness, if
we've ever been in a state of of living hell
on this existence. How would we know what is good

(01:06:05):
and what is to be cherished and what is to
be respected unless we have that contrast, So that's universally.
We can look at who they are, what they are,
what is it? Is it in your own imagination? Is
it what the Muslims in Islam would call jihad? The
holy war that's taking place within our own brain and
within our own spirit. The Bible goes into much detail

(01:06:27):
about that being symbolic in the Old Testament of these
nations fighting each other that represent aspects of our own
humanity and our own psyche that's at war within itself.
So the positive and negative negative definitely does exist. And
what side wins the side that you feed more, the
side that you pay attention to, that you speak, But

(01:06:52):
all of it's part of the game. All of it's
here for a reason. The good and the bad in
every aspect of our life is and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
I totally agree with you, it's what you feed. It
is what you feed that will appear in your life.
So you could go back to the ets and UFOs.
If you're feeding the positive, the loving, the trusting in
this world it's a difficult thing to open yourself up
to just trust it's something to learn and to practice

(01:07:24):
because it's not normal. If you do that, then you're
going to be getting these different kinds of experiences. But
I would add a little bit more to this dark
and light, which is its fascinating what you were talking about,
and I really agree with you. I would just say
I would go a step further, and I would say,
you know, as you choose to not be on the

(01:07:46):
dark side of the coin, if you will. I mean,
first of all, you're given the option, the opportunity to choose.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Yes, the scripture that says exactly what you mom, I'm sorry,
that's just the way my mind where its just choose
light or darkness. You know, you get to choose.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
It, you get to choose. It's here. And I would go,
you know, those beings who have come into this world
to play these roles that are dark. So if we
want to follow this through even further, we could just
say we owe them gratitude. We owe them gratitude even

(01:08:25):
if we don't like what they're doing, because they're showing
us something that we have chosen that we don't like.
We can see I don't like that. I don't like
what you're doing, and so I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to do this other stuff that feels good.
And so they provide, they provide something that we can
push back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Against the contrast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
They will the contrast, and they will go on and
they will they will reap the karmic rewards of whatever
they're doing. But they do provide us a service, and
for that we owe them gratitude. I know. It's maybe
a parimilar way will be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
At No, it's one hundred even we're talking about it
as a form of ets or angelic beings, but even man,
if we look at just our own darkness that we've
been through, like I've you know, and I've had pastors
on this show and good friends of mine. We talk
about in the spiritual aspect, which demons do we cast

(01:09:20):
out and do we rebuke and say get out of here?
And which demons are sent here by the Creator to
teach us lessons and to buffet us and to get
us ready for Christhood. You know what I'm saying. So
I've gone instead of like when I was going through
my struggles and my really hard times of darkness and
depression and what's called the dark Knight of the soul.

(01:09:41):
When I was going through that, I would have did
anything to take that, to get somebody to give me
some solace and take that away from me. But now
when I look back at it, I'm thankful for it.
I'm thankful for those times. So now my relationship with
those demons have changed. I don't rebuke them and which
death upon them. I'm thankful that Odd the supreme creator

(01:10:02):
of the universe, sent them into my life for a
reason and for a season, to buffet me into creating
me the person that I am today, to give me
that contrast, I'm thankful for the light now that I
have spent time in the darkness, and so even the
relationship changes with that on a very spiritual level.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I just love. I love that. I love what you
just said. I would say, just to take a step
aside for a second, I want to say that I believe,
and i'd like your opinion on this. I believe that
these UFOs are showing up in our skies more often,

(01:10:43):
and they're doing that to support us in what you're saying.
They're supporting us in our evolution as we are making
better choices. Because we've been buffeted, as you say, and
we have emerged victorious, then we are more able to

(01:11:04):
by necessity, we have emerged at a higher vibrational frequency
and consciousness by having dealt with our demons, by having
looked at them, dealt with them, seen them. And I
would I would say, I have a really great rock here.
Speaking of crystals, A lot of this is a great rock.

(01:11:30):
I love this crystal because it shows, Uh, it is
very beautiful. And the reason it's beautiful is because it
reveals it includes the shadow side. Right, It is a
very beautiful rock. And if it were only just the
white side, it wouldn't be as beautiful. And so in

(01:11:52):
terms of the wrestling with our demons, what I would
say about that is that we wrestle with our demons,
and I would put it in a different term. We
deal with these emotional traumas that we experience in life,
and they're part of life, and they shine us up.

(01:12:14):
They knock off our rough edges. But the goal is
the goal is not to amputate those experiences such that
they never existed. The goal is to the goal is
to wrestle with the demon, or deal with the trauma
in such a way that you accept it, you remove
the bad feelings associated with it, but you keep the learning,

(01:12:39):
and that's part of your beautiful life. The trauma is
part of the beautiful life, just like this stone. I mean,
the dark is part of the beautiful stone. It's part
of it, and so it's yours, it's precious, it belongs
to you. And as you do this, I feel like
you become more accessible to the UFOs. And I also

(01:13:04):
believe that they encourage relationship. And the way that they
do this is in my experience over you know, what's
been a little bit more than a year of filming.
What I noticed is that there are there were certain
ships that would always seem to be at a certain
time in a certain place in the sky above San Francisco,

(01:13:28):
and they would come there again and again. I would
film them there again and again and eventually and they
would be in their own place. They would each seem
to have their own place. And so that led me
to wonder, what's going on here? I mean, do they
have they divided our sky up into territories so that

(01:13:49):
they can be there like almost like they can schedule it.
And what I've come to learn instead is that they're
there so that you can find them, so that once
you deal with your demons, once you rise up to
a certain point and you can perceive them and you
want a relationship, and you're not in fear, you're not

(01:14:10):
in the fear mode anymore. Because I don't believe that
they would show themselves to you if you were in
the fear mode. They wouldn't do that. Why would they
do that. First of all, you would be in a
completely different resonance, so that would not be possible from
an energy point of view. But also they would not
want to inflict more fear on you. But if you're
not in the fear mode and you go out, let's

(01:14:31):
say any of your viewers decide to play with this,
go out, you're not in fear, and you just start
talking to your skies, you say hello, hello, who's up there?
You can make up whatever language. I do believe that
they want to create a connection. They're here observing, obviously
in my view, but also they're here to create a

(01:14:53):
connection when you're ready, when you're done dealing with the
vast majority of your demons. They can be a comfort,
they can be a support, they can let you know
you're not alone. You can have a relationship. You can.
You know, I have conversations with the ones that I
know up here again in the same places in the sky.
I know where they're going to be, and I believe

(01:15:15):
that what they're doing is they are they're doing that
on purpose so that those of us who can see
them and want to see them are ready to see them.
We can find them when we need and want to
find them, and so they it's almost like a reward
and a comfort and a solace all at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Like I said, it's a sense of magic to let
you know that it's real, not that it's a theory
or just the old religious text that never existed or
whatever the case is, or transcend the text like it's
the legit experience from it. And I like what you
said about the rock, and you have the rock that
shows the you know, the black and the white merging.

(01:15:55):
As far as the colors and stuff, somebody mentioned over
in the chat. They said, just like we're talking about
like the Yin yang symbol. You know a little bit
of the black and the white and the white that's
in the black there, and it's part of it. And
like you said, it's about learning from your mistakes or
what I like to talk about learning from other people's
mistakes too. Those who aren't able to learn from their

(01:16:16):
mistakes or learn from the past, they're doomed to repeat it.
I forgive, I don't forget. Like if there's a certain
type of person or people that you let into your
life and they just use you and abuse you, Like
if you what's the saying, fool me once, shame on you,
fool me twice, shame on me. It's my fault for

(01:16:37):
letting this person back into my life or creating this situation,
or giving myself over to this type of people, or
whatever the case is. A lot of the stuff we're
creating on set ourselves. And I believe that, I really
believe that in this life, we're on a spiritual journey.
We're all put here by God, our divine creator, and

(01:16:58):
we take tests in our spiritual evolution, their test, and
we have to pass these tests. We have to show
that we're going to respond with love and respond with
an integrity on the road to our destiny, to walk
in our divine destiny. And these are steps that I've
been taken since day one, especially since i've become aware
of it. It's helped me to take the test to

(01:17:20):
know to respond with love or respond like Jesus would respond.
You know what I'm saying. In this type of effort,
I think when we do we pass the test and
we can go a little bit deeper, then we could
be trusted with more and our maybe our reach gets bigger,
maybe more people are to come to listen to what
you have to bring to the table. But we all

(01:17:43):
go through it, and nobody's exempt. And it's these testings
and to see if we will learn to love. And
we'll repeat those tests over and over and over again
until we pass it. Then we pass the test, we
can learn it. We can go deeper and deeper and deeper.
And the scripture says that those who are trusted with
the few, and I can trust you with a little bit,

(01:18:04):
I'm gonna be able to trust you with a lot.
Let me tell you the deep things that I have
for you. Let me show you some stuff I've never
showed anybody like This is the type of stuff I'm
talking about. And who is teaching us this stuff. We
have some leaders out there who are starting to definitely
hats off to James Gill and Steven Greer Project Camelot
some people like that who have been talking about this
stuff for years, but they've since opened up the door

(01:18:26):
for us to come into it now. So now the
ball is in our court and we could be trusted
with more and more and more and with encounter all
of this stuff. I mean, it's so beautiful, and I
think that every I think it's I think it's an
equal playing field. You one thing you talked about, like, yes,
we're all special, Yes, we're all chosen to have these

(01:18:47):
encounters and to have these experiences. There's no Messiah complex though,
like some people tend to get into the Messiah complex
as far as I'm the chosen one, I'm the one
that is having the contacts or they chose me to
bring a message, and I'm the only one. I was
going to have a guest on here, and I'm glad
they backed out because like when we were prepping for

(01:19:09):
some questions, she was like, I want I was prepping
with questions and she said mentioning that she is the
only one who can have this contact, and I was like, Oh,
that's not what I want to promote at all, you know,
So you know, it's something that is. It's whatever you
want the universe. Like I said, it's set up in
a way. Whatever you're looking for, you're gonna find it.

(01:19:29):
If you want to know how angels operate, if you
want to know how this spirit realm works, if you
want to learn the laws of manifestation, you're going to
find it. But if you want to learn the evil
and the demons and the devils that look around every corner,
they're there if you focus on them, if you feed
them your time and your energy, your ara. If you
feed them, they're gonna grow and they're going to be

(01:19:50):
more present, and you're going to see them in everything.
The same with the love. If you want to feed
the love and expression and creativity, you'll begin to feed
that and that's going to be have a more evident
in your life as well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
I agree. And getting back to just what you were saying, Yeah,
the goal of my project is anti Messiah. It is
border busting. It's like everybody, come to the table, come out,
come out, come out and show what you've seen. I
know you have, and you're safe. This is a safe

(01:20:24):
space to show what you yourself have seen and experienced
and just to give us all the uplift of knowing
we're in a large community of like minded people, if
you will. But certainly like experienced people that they're not
showing themselves to just one person. They're showing themselves wherever

(01:20:46):
and whenever they can't. They want receptivity. This is this
is what I'm getting from them, is they want they
want as many people to see them as possible. You know,
there's there's this whole thing. I don't know if you
know that there or if your viewers and listeners know
about the disclosure movement. This is a really interesting movement

(01:21:09):
where there are many people on this word. Many of
us do believe that our governments know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Yeah, the Vatican like they know some stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
They know. They know, they know that there are UFOs,
they know that there are ets. They know like, for instance,
if you put together you could not if you were
in a math class, you could not create a statistical
equation that would say that we humans are the only
intelligent species in the multiverse. You couldn't create that equation.

(01:21:45):
It's impossible. And so if you if you accept the
impossibility of that, then you have to accept the possibility
that we are not alone. And so there are many
people I'm including in those people who believe that, as
you say, the Vatican, our governments, you know, our military,

(01:22:06):
various aspects of them, not all, not all levels. But
there are people in all of these that know that
there are UFOs, they know there are ets, they know
they're in our skies right now, but they have chosen
not to share that with us. And there are reasons
for that, and I would like to just say I'd

(01:22:28):
like to go into some of the reasons I'm thinking,
but first I want to just say that's the disclosure movement,
that there are people around the world who are just saying,
say it to our government, to the Vatican, the military,
just say it, say it publicly, say what we know,
we know what we're seeing, we know what's out there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Just admit it, just like you're saying, we know what's
out there because we've done the work and we know
what's in here exactly as within so without. And it
goes hand in hand with the encounters and the awakening,
the outer awakening, with the inner awakening and being. It
all goes hand in hand. I don't think it's just

(01:23:12):
to just to leave you in awe and wonder. I
think it's to awaken something within you, something good, something
that makes you more peaceful, more loving, you know what
I'm saying. You have a hope and things like that.
That's what's so cool about it. And it's not just
about oh, have you ever seen the UFO or whatever
the case is. No, it starts that we're talking about
even going out and having our own contact, and like

(01:23:34):
it's one thing when when when when they contact you
or they shine out your window and say, hey, look
at me, and then it gets in. We didn't talk
to it too much. I think we alluded it, alluded
to it. But to go out there and have your
own contact, where not the CE five initiative, which is
where you go and contact them, which we've been talking
talking about. So that's really cool. We're supposed to be

(01:23:55):
planning like a global one soon that I'm going to
lead up. So I'll show that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Let about that. I agree, I you know, I feel
like we're closing in closing in the show. But I
really really really encourage people to go outside, look up
and start trying to establish their own contact. It will
benefit them. It does bring an enormous amount of joy

(01:24:21):
and peacefulness. So it's really the opposite of the alien
invasion the army. It's the opposite of that narrative. And
that is a narrative. It's a fabricated narrative. It's not real.
They could go out and just begin expanding their own
life by just talking to whatever they think might be

(01:24:47):
in the sky that they can't see, and they might
not be able to see it for a while, and
then eventually they can. One thing that I'd like to
say to help them, and again it's because you know
my own experiences, they said, hey, we're here, pay attention.
They want us, not just me, they want all of us.

(01:25:09):
They want us to know they're here, and they want contact,
they want relationship, they want that, but sometimes it's kind
of hard to get it if you're always working in
your imagination, right, And so one thing that I've experienced
that is so wild, But it's not just me. I've
been with people in different places and we've all had

(01:25:31):
this experience where, for some reason, a digital camera, whether
it's a cell phone or another kind of camera, it
can see. It sees what we see on what I
would call the visible light spectrum, what we can see
with our eyes, but it sees beyond that as well.
And so I've had experiences where I've pointed my cell

(01:25:51):
phone up and I can't see anything there with my eyes,
and I look at what I recorded on my cell
phone and there's a ship there. And I would just say,
I would encourage your viewers and listeners play with that. Know,
there is a reality beyond your five senses. And that's
what that cell phone experience, you know, reinforces for me,

(01:26:13):
is that the reality is bigger than what we see,
can feel, can taste, can touch and smell. It is
just it is bigger than that. And beautifully digital cameras
can capture some of that. And so you could have them,
you know, they could go out and just start talking
to whoever they think might be in the skies. Again,
not in a fair mode that ever, if.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
They're in I don't do anything out of fear.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Man, Yeah, don't do anything out of there, and then
point there a cell phone at the sky and just
start seeing what they see. It could be really just
a fun pastime.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Yeah, Bill Bean did that. He I've had him on
the show a couple of times. Good friend. He was
somebody cool because I got to talk to him as
a Christian He's a Christian minister who was doing this
and going out and he'd have demonic and so he
can tell you the difference between demonic demons and angels
and stuff like that. But he would go out too,
and he would take his camera out and he would
be prompted to say, hey, look over here, take a picture,

(01:27:10):
and he had he'd have the film developed and every
time there was a ship a craft that was that
was on the film. He had all those pictures on
his website and stuff too. He has pictures of demons
and all kinds of stuff that that was haunting his
family as when he was growing up and stuff, so
really interesting stuff. Melissa Peabody, thank you for coming on
the podcast. Your website is my first Contact dot Net.

(01:27:34):
Let people know how they can connect with you through
your website or through the submission form. If anybody has
any videos of what you got coming up, go ahead
and give a quick plug right here at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Well, first of all, I want to thank you truth Seekut.
I've had such a great time talking to you. People
can contact me. They can find me through the website
my first Contact dot Net. The submissions page is there
so people can send in their videos or their photos
of anything that they see that's unusual or interesting in

(01:28:06):
their skies. Again, so that we can create a sharing
we can just expand this globally. Everybody gets to see
what's in their skies. Everybody gets to participate and see
it together. And so I would encourage you to send
me anything that you think might be interesting and so
we can expand our community.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Sounds good. Definitely do that, And that's like that goes
so far for like a lot of reasons. At this point,
I don't seek out a lot of footage anymore, but
there was a time when I didn't know what was
going on. I needed people to talk to. I was
all over e seti dot org, like I was all
over James Gillen watching their videos and we're very similar

(01:28:50):
to the things that I was experiencing as well. So
the videos, especially for those people who are just now
getting into this, they want to see what it looks like.
It's like it's some type of proof to show you
something is going on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
These podcasts and these guests and things like that are
here to help us get to the bottom of the narrative.
And I love that people can approach this without an agenda.
I don't think that you have anything to gain. You're
just being honest with your experiences and what you believe
it is. And the funny thing is is that when
we come together and we do that, we're telling a
very similar story, which is the beautiful thing about it.

(01:29:27):
And that's why I think this podcast is worth it.
And as many people tell me not to talk about
this or don't look into it, don't do it, there's
worth in it. And it's just to help people just
like myself who was going through even you going through
this stuff early on. It's scary. You know, you've watched
all the fear based stuff. You need to hear the

(01:29:48):
other side of the story. You need to hear about
people who are literally having contact experiences, people who can
make it happen at will, things like this, and so
it's for everybody. It's not just for one person, no
longer is it us four and no more. But it's
for everybody who wants to seek out those encounters and
they're beautiful to me. So Melissa people, I thank you

(01:30:08):
again for coming on and we will connect soon and
I'll let you know about that date. I'll tell you
the date now, we're shooting for the New Moon, which
is May the fifteenth, so it's on a Tuesday night,
so next Tuesday, I believe it is, So it's the
new moon. So we're going to plan a global thing
where we all go out and I'll go live on
YouTube and just do like a meditation and a prayer

(01:30:31):
and just do what we've been talking about. I'll go
out and lead that and we'll see how it goes.
We got a lot of people all over the country
who are wanting to tune in and do it themselves
and make contact. We have people who are already who
are there's people who are seeing stuff every day and
it's blowing them away, and then there's people who have
never seen it at all. So everybody's at different ends

(01:30:52):
of the spectrum on that. So the fifteenth, which is
the New moon, will do it then. So if you
want to be a part of that great cool and
I think Homesauce he's in the chat, good friend of mine.
He's going to be sending you a video. Make sure
you go to her website, brother, send her that video.
It's he got a really cool video, trust me. And
it looks a lot like some of yours. But during
the day, the daytime. The daytime videos are awesome too,

(01:31:15):
because I was having so many nighttime sightings at first,
and then you try to rationalize it and you're like,
maybe it's a satellite, maybe it's this, maybe it's that,
maybe it's a plane. But then you're like, let me see,
and I'm like putting the thought out there, let me
see something during the day just so I know, you know,
I can actually see something. And I've seen fleets appear
out of nowhere, like forty of them appear, do weird

(01:31:38):
aerial phenomena and then disappear, and I'm like, oh my god.
So I'll let you know they something's going on. We're
connected there spiritually, angelic realm. Who they are, what they are,
They they're watching over us. They've got everything. Okay, there's
footage out there, and you should upload some of this too.
There's footage out there of like asteroids and comments that

(01:32:00):
are headed towards the Earth. There was one in Russia
which it dissipated at the last second, right before impact.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
It split and you know why because they blew it up.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
There's the footage of it. There's footage of this little
craft flies in shoots a laser beam through it at
the last moment and it dissipates. There's footage of that. Yeah,
so we got to have a place for everybody to
come some of these footage, footage, Like we forget about
this stuff because this was probably eight years ago now,
so you know, we kind of forget about that stuff.

(01:32:30):
But when it was news and when some of the
UFO guys were talking about it, it was like the
big thing. So to have a database with all of
these videos and footage, it's awesome. So everybody head on
over to my first contact dot net and subscribe, do
all the good stuff over there, and follow her work.
Thank you again for coming on, Melissa.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Oh, thank you so much. Take care.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
We'll do it again soon. Yes, right bye. Enjoyed it.
Enjoyed it, ladies and gentlemen. Enjoyed it. I have to
jump off of because I have to go cut this
thing short. But yeah, I really enjoyed this interview. I
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(01:33:12):
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(01:33:33):
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to Home Sauce, Christy Folks, Carolyn, Michael, Adam, Starseed Bay,
everybody else has been hanging out with us here on
the live stream. Chris barrs what's up? Brother? So with that,
I'm gonna say peace and shalom. I love each and

(01:33:54):
every one of you, guys. We will do it again
soon this Thursday. Everybody, right now, let's put this in
tension out there. Who's listening live next Thursday? This coming
up Thursday, I'm supposed to be interviewing Gemini from the
group Conspiratuality. I was supposed to have him on the
podcast like two or three times in the past six
seven years. I have a long up in podcast and

(01:34:16):
each time something happens in the interview doesn't happen. So
let's put the intention out there that this Thursday I
will be speaking with Gemini of Conspiratuality. He's been a
big influence on me musically and when it comes to
research and doing this kind of stuff. So let's hope
that happens. So Thursday, I'll see you guys again. Peace
and shalom, so much, so much, so much, so much steer, Well,

(01:34:47):
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