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We enter the last month of the year, with this week being the last week of major releases, so why not take a look back at the Best PlayStation 2 games, especially considering that 2025 is the 25th anniversary of the highest-selling console ever? Sean and Marc give out their Top 10 Best PS2 games of all-time

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max,
so said four hundred and seventy two, and I'm your host,
Sean Dintgomer. Right here with me is always mister Murc Morrison. Howdy,
and well, we got some things to talk about here.

(00:37):
I've been playing Marvel Cosmic Invasion, Marksen playing more Red
Dead one. There's also a few things to talk about
in the news, like should AI tags be in Digital
sours or not? And Nintendo actually acquires a studio from

(00:59):
ben I Go, so that's kind of interesting. And we're
also going to do our best PS two games of
all time here is it's the twenty fifth anniversary of
the PlayStation two. If you're looking for the why we're
not doing the three sixty, that's because three sixty already
we already did that like many episodes ago. You can

(01:20):
actually just go search it my best three sixty games
ship hop up. So right, but all right, let's go
ahead and gets started. We're talking about all those things,
all right, Well, let's yeah, I I uh, we were
going to start at then almost six thirty times Eastern,

(01:42):
but I fell asleep because it's like the one time
we don't have overtime. Right after I get it done,
my Monday shifts, so it was like, let me take
a nap. And then I was like, oh crap, it's
six fifteen. Yeah, yeah, it's like I I've went an
alarm and then the alarm did not wake me up

(02:02):
at five point thirty. It just I just randomly moved
up at like six fifteen. It's like, oh crap. Right,
So thankfully I already had the news part done, so
it was just like doing all the description in the
banner and all that. But how was your Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It was good. I saw that New Knives Up movie
with my mom.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, cool?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And then UH got like rams Horn for dinner. So
that's all right.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
How's what I'm guessing that's a that's the thing up there.
I've never heard of rams Horn.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I guess it's a It's not national, but I
guess like semi national. I mean they have they're not
just like some like local diner. I've seen them around
and around or you know, there's kates and stuff. So
but it's it, you know, family dining basically.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, is it like American food.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Or yeah, I think of like eight, like think of
like a big Boy or like a Danny's or something.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That could picture.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Then yeah, and he had to work. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, I mean I had my birthday, which was funny
because my girlfriend thought that it was on the twenty seventh.
Uh so I had to like when people started calling me.
She was like, why are you getting all these calls?
I was like, because it's not birthday today. She's like, no,
it's a birthday. I was like, yes it is.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
She's like, oh my god, I would know.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, freaking out, you know. And so she's like, oh
my god, I want to go buy the cake right now,
and we're gonna and and so we ended up having
Chinese food and I told her I went Chinese food
cause we had pizza like over the weekend or whatever.
And so right, yeah, and my our our friend that

(03:57):
he watches the football with me just happened to come over.
So they all did happy birthday for me and everything,
and it wasn't anything a big deal. How you doing there?
But you know, like I said, I don't really care.
When when you get to that age, it did kind
of make me sad. I was like, I feel like
I gotta tell her because I think she loves he

(04:17):
doesn't know what I think. I'm gonna go the whole
day with the one person I'm hanging out with has
no idea some birth.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
So yeah, and then Thanksgiving I had to work, like
you said, so I was watched the game, worked and
Cowboys won that crazy game with the chiefs. Uh And yeah,
my daughter went with my mom to my sister's house.

(04:48):
They had a you know, the traditional Thanksgiving kind of stuff,
and my mom's birthday was on Sunday, so we went
to go see Wicked for good. Okay, I I hadn't
actually seen that. I had to. It would have been
nice for somebody to tell me we're gonna go see Wicked.
I would have made an effort to see it before
one before we actually went to go see that one.

(05:12):
So I wanted to want a bunch of those recaps
or whatever. And I kind of knew the story of
the first one, the first part before I went to
go see that one. Even though you know that story's
out there, it's not like it's original. You can just
find it anywhere. But I thought it was pretty good.
I'm I kind of have a soft spot for musicals,

(05:33):
and this one's actually it's nice because it's not one
of those like they sing constantly. It's like a sing
when they have actual song to sing, more like kind
of like a Disney movie. So yeah, I enjoyed it
for what it is. I wonder if they're gonna do
a third one. No no, I heard that they're they're

(05:57):
thinking about either doing like a sequel with one of
the other books, or they're like they could they be
doing like a prequel prequel. I don't know how that
would work.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
They've literally done both those ideas and movie form already
with you know, Returned to Oz and then that Teams.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Powerful, which is kind of okay.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
The one with James and Return to Oz came on
like the mid eighties and that was like a direct
sequel to like Wizard of Oz with Dorothy and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
So yeah, yeah, so that that was kind of That's
been my weekend of a lot of stuff going on,
so plus a lot of work, but all right, anything
but Black Friday or.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I bought some stuff at that was one of
the reason I went Homies as a local star like
to hit up and they had like a buy to
get too free sale. H for like Blu rays and stuff.
So I bought some stuff, the one, the two game things.
I bought one with my mom. We ad a store

(07:03):
on Wednesday of last week and they had a copy.
Ever heard a second in Charles?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I feel like I've heard that, but I don't know
what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
There are locations in Florida. I mean, I don't know
if they're close by you. But it's like a big
used store where they have like games and movies and
books and crape. Yeah, I've never been to Hastings. I
always wanted to do. And then they went out of business.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I had one here close to me and it
went I never I think we nen we talked about
when it went out of business for me over here.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right, It's basically that, but they do occasionally get new
stuff in, but like most of this stuff is used.
And they had a used copy of Tales of Destiny
too for the PS one. I never played that game.
I know it's a Tales game, right, And that's like

(07:57):
way before I got into the Tail series, and I'm
still not one hundred percent into it. Like I'm like,
I like one of them and that's about it. Yeah,
but this one was one hundred and thirty five bucks,
and I was like that that seems low. I wasn't
being sarcastic when I said that, Like, and I looked
at the discs and they were legit manuals, good condition

(08:20):
and even has like the registration card. So she grabbed
it for me, or she like basically bought it for
me as like an early Christmas gift because I'm not
going to go see her for Christmas. And yeah, that game,
I mean I haven't started it or plate or anything,
but it's like at least one ninety online. Wow. Yeah,
So I considered that a good deal. And then wal

(08:45):
I hit that store and I bought a few blue
raising crap and they had a copy of Strider too
for the PS one also nice, which I already have
a copy of. Like I got a nice, very nice
copy of that game already that I paid like one
hundred and thirty thirty bucks for whatever up for fifty

(09:05):
five that was also complete, like the case, the front
disc cover, not the not the book itself, but like
you know, there's a plastic cover is is busted. Yeah,
it's fifty five bucks. So I bought it, right, So

(09:26):
that's kind of my two game things. I bought this
for Black Friday, how about you?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I did not. I bought my girlfriend an electric dryer
because she's been wanting the dryer forever, basically since I
bought the washer, which I finished off a couple of
months ago. She's like, so, am I getting the dryer
this year.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm like, okay, yeah, my dryer broke it months ago.
I mean, my mam eventually bought like another one. But
he you haven't been hod a little about it. But
it wasn't so so bad.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, it was kind of like rather not.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, he about the original, He about the original one.
He's just kind of waiting for like a good deal
or you know, just to try to find a good
one on Facebook, marketplace or something.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah. That's the tricky thing now with these, like you
never know which one's going to be better. Is it
going to be Black Friday? It could be Cyber Monday.
Like almost all the Black Friday happens online now, so
it's like, is there really even a big deal to
go to the store. I saw a lot of pictures
and videos of stores kind of empty.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah. I saw some. Uh, I don't know if it
was like clickbait or not. But like a video about
like Walmart kind of being empty for a Black Friday.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean, yeah, I could kind of see people are
like buying you know, groceries or whatever instead of buying
you know, TVs or.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I think also it's like the deals aren't as great
as they used to be.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
So, yeah, Amazon has happened great or I bought, I bought.
Yeah I did buy one thing from Amazon. It was
like a bye to get one free sale. Uh huh.
But it's not like everything was like marked off or
anything or that great.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, it just feels like, you know, the deals you
used to get back in the day. We're a lot
more like, oh my god, let's do the sticker shock thing.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, of.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh, let's slash like eight hundred dollars on this TV
one time. And so now it's like, oh, we're just
gonna do the same sale we've done like four times
already this year and hope you didn't see it right,
or hope you actually need the whatever it is now.
And I think a lot for a lot of people,

(12:01):
they don't really have that much discretionary yeah spending right now.
It's unfortunate the way things are. But yeah, that was
kind of. And I also finally bought myself my because
you know the end of the year insurance thing. Finally

(12:22):
got new glasses that I get tomorrow for the first
time in like six years.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
So that's good.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I guess that's my get to myself having better vision,
I will probably like I also, I went through the
sales and stuff, and like the only thing I saw
for like Toalan hill F twenty dollars. You know, I
know there was stuff like physically if you go to
the store or I don't buy physical, so I didn't

(12:48):
want to just have one disc of one thing just
to have like ten dollars more off or whatnot. Or
I already had the game that they were doing the
sale on, like Exhbibihly thirty three or something like that.
So like, yeah, like the only things I thought about
was like, Okay, Salmon Hill F for like what forty

(13:09):
eight dollars is not too bad, you know, it's kind
of decent. Des stranding too, I think was on sale too.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't know if it's still on sale. Like Medico
Solid three was like thirty bucks.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah that too, and kind of everything else, Like it
wasn't like that big of a you know deal.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So yeah, I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Hoping that with the Game Awards, with some of the
ones that I actually want to some of the ones
that I actually want to get, like the indie games
or something might actually be on sale, like I'm Solemn
or something of that effect would be good. So but yeah,

(13:58):
let's go ahead and unless you got anything else, let's
go ahead and get into the actual.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Games we're playing, all right, I mean, yeah, a little
more red did I haven't done a ton of gaming
this week because I haven't been home for like four days.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And right, don't blame me there.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Just a little of that. Oh well, sometime this week
there's a local arcade it's not local but semi local
that's closing down and moving, so probably hit up them
before it closes, because yeah, it's kind of like a
little landmark for the town. Yeah, all right, cool, but

(14:46):
that's about it for me. I know you're playing more
tactics probably, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I've been playing Tactics and I also got to play
some Marvel Cosmic Invasion that came out today. You know,
it's made by the same team that the Ninja Turtle
Shutters Avenge, So that was it's Yeah, it's a more
modern version of that. They obviously have the Marvel characters

(15:12):
a lot more characters than the Inja Turtles games ever
got to like this has fifteen.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well that's a consequence of like the Turtle there's four
man Turtles and Casey Jones and they kind a bolt
in more characters like Splinter, you know, April, but it's
like no one cares about like Mindo Gecko. You know.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, it's like they kind of run the game of it.
You know, you have like the kind of all the
ones that you're you kind of expect the Captain, American
Iron Man, right, Spider Man all that, and you get
like she Hulk and rock and Raccoon, Rocker Raccoons really

(15:53):
fun because he gets they all have like their own
special attacks, right, and Rocker Raccoon like those bombs everywhere,
and you know Cap can throw a shield around and
stuff like that. And they'll have like voice, they all
have voices, which you're really well done to. The music's
awesome as you'd expect. You know, the characters, you could

(16:18):
say that some of them do you feel like, Okay,
they have you know, similar moves as you get with
a lot of beat them ups.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, but you know the.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right it's and then this one obviously has like a
lot of because of Marble having all the lore. You
have like a vault section where you can you get
these little orbs that you get from completing the levels
and you can put them into this big thing and
then unlocks different things for that. And then they have

(16:51):
like a bio section for all the characters, which is
kind of cool, right, And there's only like really two
motors the camp Pain mode. This is the story mode,
and then there's the Arcade most so you can play
it kind of like a traditional beat them up game,
and you can't play with four other people, so you
don't have to play by yourself and that's fun. And

(17:14):
then also like yeah, it just and the cool thing
is that it's they didn't want like Marl versus CAPCOMs,
so like you could tag in somebody whenever you want,
or you can just decide that you want to swap
them out with the other character too, So that's that's awesome,

(17:34):
like just being able to pull that off whenever you want,
Like that's fun. Yeah, So, like I don't think this
is going to do anything out of this world if
you don't really like beat him ups. This is not
going to change your idea of that. If you love
beat them ups, then I think this is right there
at home with what the other ones that Tribute and
dot m you have done. Maybe. Uh, I still think

(17:59):
Streets Are very four is probably a little better. I
haven't beaten the whole game. It's something like five or
six hours, so it's not something that you know you're
gonna spend a lot of time with.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
But yeah, yeah, it's not the typical you like marathon
through either like and may play like a level or
two and come back later.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
The only one that the only thing that makes this
one a little bit different is that this one does
have like an RPG uh mechanic to it where you like,
you can get you a bit like you have different
level ups and so you'll get different stat boosts and
stuff like that. Right, But it's not oh really hard either,

(18:39):
So you know there's that it's but that it's that's
typical beat them up stuff, you know forever for To
be honest, betters Avenge is actually pretty much more challenging,
I think than some of the other ones have been.
But this one, I think they probably kind of dumbed
it down because you know, they expect a lot of
kids to play with their parents and stuff like that.

(19:00):
So but yeah, I've been enjoyed. It's on Game Pass
as well if you still have that, but you know,
you can definitely also go check it out on whatever
system you want to buy it on as well. So
but yeah, that's kind of the only thing I've been playing.
So let's go ahead and get into a little bit

(19:23):
of news that there is. Hopefully you don't hear my
dog chomping on her bone behind me, uh we have.
Tim Sweeney was on social media, mainly on x complaining that,
you know, because steem has that label of AI right

(19:48):
on when he AI in a game, and he is
kind of actually responding to a dev that said that
you shouldn't have AI labels on games because at at
this point almost every game uses AI for something, and
then that's just going to keep becoming a thing as
we go on in this, you know, going into the

(20:09):
next generation of consoles, as AI continues to you know,
build and build. We talked last week about how much
you know, RAM is getting preposterous at this point with
the pricing and how that might affect Xbox and Steam
Machine and everything else. I kind of feel like it's

(20:33):
good for consumers because we're still kind of adjusting to this,
and I think it's like the one way that you
have to fight against, you know, getting people to like
if you don't want AI to be a piltraining games anywhere.
It's like you're one way to be able to say no,

(20:55):
I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's a thing. There's two things. First of all, like
game maker or developers and stuff like that. They use
tools up to speed up game making, but it's not AI. Like,
believe me, Skyrim. When they made Skyrim, they didn't make
every tree. They just you know, hired or bought speed

(21:17):
tree and then plopped down whatever trees they want to do.
That's fine, right ah, But I think it's a very
gross and stupid thing for him to say because people
don't like AI except for like businessmen, Like if you
ask the majority of gamers like, hey, do you want AI,

(21:39):
and it's like no, like get the get the fuck
away from you know so. And also like they don't
make games like they make the one Fortnite. That's about it.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
So yeah, I mean, but they still have plenty of
devs working on that game, right.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And also it's like, okay, if you just want AI
to make everything, why do you guys make a game engine?
They just have AI do it?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, Like, and that's the thing too, is like you know,
Tim Sweet comes from that background of kind of creatives.
I've seen it said, and it makes sense like a
lot of a lot of people that want AI or
the people that are not creative right, right, so they
don't have to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
His last game was like nineteen ninety two or something,
so like, could you imagine if me and Modo got
on stage and said I want the new marketIn to
be AI made? Like, No, right, they think they think
he had an aneurysm. It is going crazy or something.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, I think it's good that they have these il Look,
maybe in the future, once we really get to the
point where everything is using AI, Okay, I think maybe
you have a point for a dev because it also
can be kind of shitty, right where like you're go ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Sorry, look what just happened with U? Is it the
first Ascendant? I think that's what it's called. That's that
like new?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean it's not that new, I guess. But then
that extraction shooter that has like AI voices.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, you're a gamer.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Gave like a four out of ten because of that, Like.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, and I mean that was a bit too much,
Like they went on like a TI rade during the review,
and it's like, I'm all for everybody doing their own
review the way they want, but you're also kind of
like taking away from the actual game at that point too.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Or even like the new I don't know if I
don't know the name of it, but there's some anime
series that I think Amazon is putting out or doing
a dubb of that's all like AI voices and it
so that sounds terrible, like even aside from the fact
that like it's taking work away from like legitimate voice actors,
like right, AI can't do like emotion or nuance that well,

(23:58):
like it's just gonna sound like dogs Legion and it's
like no, thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, Like we already have this problem like with Amazon
and Crunchy roll of a Crunchy role got caught really
bad doing it with for anime for like the book titles.
So I can't imagine what that would sound like for
actual like voices when you get into that kind of
work and then like for the son that they used

(24:24):
to for our creators is not too bad, but it's
kind of like the whole like, Okay, we're starting here
because they did it with the finals too, so it's
not like it's something new, right, but it's like we're
starting here, and then how bad is that going to
get eventually?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
And and I think that's that's sort of my issue
with all of it is if we don't do this now,
then you're kind of saying we don't care. We want.
I get everybody wants to make this normal, and eventually
when we get to that point, okay, cool, because I do.
I don't want people like not getting their game bot

(25:03):
because somebody used AI in the smallest thing possible, but
you're you know, preventing yourself and playing an awesome game
because of that, Whereas then you got somebody just infiltrating
their entire game with it. And then like I think
it's there should be levels to it, right, Like I

(25:25):
don't know how they would. You know, that might be
to have to eventually be slipped for like the ESRB
to do like like when you do writings for games,
you now have to report how much AI used eventually.
I don't know if we'll ever get to that point,
but yeah, it's it's unfortunate. Like even with the bubble bursting,

(25:47):
I think if the bubble happens to burst, I don't
think that that's gonna mean people are not going to
use AIS. This means we're gonna it's just not gonna
be as overt like it is right now, where it
feels like everything is AI AI, you know, right, But
I do think this seems doing the right thing right
now as far as like putting these labels in Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, and people you know, like I think people should
have a right to know if they're if the game
they want to buy has it or not, and if
they support.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
It or not, like right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I mean to me, it doesn't really to me,
it kind of doesn't matter, like personally, I guess it
depends on like the level. But like Watchdog's Legion, for example,
is impacted kind of a lot by its use of AI.
And bear in mind, that was like three or four
years ago, Like that was before a lot of stuff

(26:48):
more stuff even came to fruition. So I can only
imagine what that type of game that that would have
been like now.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right, Yeah, it's if people thought that was bad, you
just wait, it's gonna be worse yep, so get ready
for that. Unfortunately, even if we don't like it, it's
just kind of be the way it is. Yeah, I
forgot I asked to watch. I don't know if you

(27:16):
were into Stranger Things at all, but and I and
I watched all four of the episodes.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Pretty awesome to start. Now I gotta wait till Christmas,
so you know, it is what it is, right, it's
gonna be sad when the show's finally done.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Oh they got the anime. Isn't there some animated show
that they're gonna make or something?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, it's like the Tales from eighty five or something
like that. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, they are. But
it's good that they're doing it that way. That way
that you can still have the actors but they don't
have to like physically be right on camera.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You know, sin Wolf can still be voicing his character
when he's forty.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, they could just pull them from wherever they are
to the voiceover and they can just go on about
their business and not have to like, oh my god,
we got to figure out how to That's part of
the reason why it takes a long to make this
show is they got to like figure out how to
get all these people that are not doing something else
at this point because they've all become such big stars

(28:22):
to be you know, all available at that time to
do the the taping of the season. So but yeah,
I guess also Nintendo just randomly or not right, I'm
sure they've been talking about this for a while, but
Nintendo announced that they are subtly to approval. They're acquiring

(28:43):
eighty percent of Vandais Singapore Studio, which has been helping
with Platoon for a long while. Ye and they were
involved heavily in the development of s Platoon three, for example,
and then eventually they will acquire the rest of it
after a certain period. You know, Japan has different rules

(29:05):
than here in the United States. But you know, these
things don't happen that often as we see a lot
more here, but they are something when they do happen,
especially Nintendo, who doesn't really acquire a lot of companies,
but they're kind of similar to Sony, where they've only
really acquired companies that they've worked with previously.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, like has shown a pattern of like being good
for Nintendo or helping them out or you know, having
good I like following the company spirit or something like that, you.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Know, right, And like you know, Nintendo has done so
much work with ben and Namco over the years, namely
for you know, Smash Brothers and all that, So this
is kind of not anything unsurprising that if there's gonna
be one company that buys something from Ben Namco, who
would be them?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
But yeah, like that's uh. I do want to sometimes
like thankfully for ben on Namco. That elden Ring and
you know, Dark Souls have been such you know, big
boons for them because I wonder where they would be
at sometimes with if maybe maybe Sonny would try to

(30:20):
step in and have bought them or something like that
to try to get the anime game rights that they
have the anime show right to me.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
To me, it's kind of a double a sword, Like
it's good that they're successful, like what you said, elden
Ring and stuff, but like I miss Ridge Racer and
they've made one of those in fifteen years, you know,
and there are plenty other franchises and stuff they used
to make that they don't.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Man, is so awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I was really shocked and made that ace combat game
ace Kinbat seven. I think like for likes four because
it's like, wow, you guys have made one of these
in a while and.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Mhm yeah, and they're supposedly making the next one too.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I wonder if that's gonna get announced that the game
awards be awesome. Please bring it back, please.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Do not unbound, like bring back the actual good rate
Bridge Racer.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yes, yeah, we need the great Ridge Racer. Don't give
us the the battle one. Uh, let's see, there was
like gon, be honest, this wasn't the biggest we can use.
And then a lot of the stuff that everybody was
talking about we already talked about on Monday, like the
ram thing and and all that stuff. Middle gir Sawid
four has been in the news lately because you know,

(31:43):
more's been talked about for the possible, like collection number two,
that it feels like Middle Gris Sawid four has to
be in that right, that's the one game that everybody
has wanted to be on modern consoles. And with a
Japanese publication called Real Sound thanks to Yankee on X

(32:04):
doing the translation, they talked to Noriaki Okamura, who worked
as a producer on him, just for and on the
series in general, said that, you know, the hardware at
the time required a very particular design to produce three
D performance with the technology available at the time. It
was a PS three exclusive, and it also has some

(32:26):
unique code that would make it difficult for them to
port that over and not not I mean not just
like people have been talking about remake for it for
a while, but to even poured it over, which is
what people want in that collection, It's going to be difficult.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Here's the thing. There are plenty of PS three emulators
out there, like our PS three X what the hell it's.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Called o rs CPS three or something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, yeah, it runs a game pretty well. Like I'm
sure it's not one like Capcom Sorry Economy could message
the team or work with them or try to get
that team two hundred percent of what it should be
and then you know, licensing emulator and put it on
the disc.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, we'll see if that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm just going to get it. Wouldn't it wouldn't be
like the four K project that everyone wants or you know,
it's but if people just want to play it again
and it's stuck on this one console that they're not
obviously not making. And the PS three was never like
a the most like solid console in the first place,

(33:39):
Like those things are have slowly been dying and crap
like that, Like that game will if it's not if
it can't be ported or you know, it will eventually
become like lost media, not tomorrow but twenty years time maybe, right.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
No, I I do think that. I feel like it's
just so weird, like that would be the major pool
for the part two is having that game.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
So it's like, I mean I could see like Part
two being like, yeah, Mevaga Solid for the PSP games,
you know, portable ops and Acid one and two, and
that's about it. That's all I need. Yeah, give the
VR missions from Medaga Solid No.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
One two, Right, let's see that too. But yeah, I
mean yeah, they definitely, yeah, they definitely need to have
the PSP like essentially everything that hasn't been released on
like modern consoles yet, like that needs to get into
that collection for sure, right.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And I mean but hopefully they can get that number
three working. Yo? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
So number number four working or four?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I'm sorry that what you had three. Yeah, but at
least we uh, we know one thing that's coming for sure,
war Craft's newest expansion, Midnight. It's coming next year March second,
at three pm Pacific, which means that it'll probably be
available like out there March third. There is going to

(35:20):
be a Secure Housing early access next on tomorrow. Uh
so there's that. Are you excited about the next expansion
for well?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Or I mean I didn't get the last one, so no,
I know, but I didn't even really finding that they
were like oh I finally got player Housing. It's like, yeah,
the feature that was in the game twenty years ago,
Like yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
How So like those expansions never go on sale or anything,
like you weren't or you just there wasn't just anything
that you weren't very excited about.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Or I mean it's probably on sale like black. But
I mean I don't play the game with anyone either,
Like that's the that's the kind of the main problem.
Like if I had someone that's like, oh play wow,
I probably do it, but that'd be like way more
of an incentive than me just going through the content
and then going like all right, well I don't want
to raid right, and I don't want to get and

(36:17):
the stuff I want to do are the stuff I
want to get I can never get, So it just
becomes like it just becomes like annoying at the to
me because I was like, all right, I want this
one stupid horse, and I don't want to kill this
guy ten thousand times to get it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, don't blame me on it.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
One thing we do know is not coming next year
is Wicher four thanks to a Ernie's call the Q
three earnings call that they were asked about where they
were in development for witcherre for and he says, we're
not disclosing any details regarding the target release. This is

(37:02):
the company spokes for some of Michael Nowakowski, he's the
joint CEOs of cdp R by the way, and he
says that there's no timetable for when they're going to
release this. They have a six year window to try
to release all of the games like four, five, and
six within two years of each other, so like they're

(37:24):
trying to at least by what would this be when
they know that they're going to have them already like once,
which are four releases that Cher five will come out
two years after and then Witcher six will be two
years after that. I think that's great. If they can
actually do that.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I think that's incredibly ambitious. Let's say that because like
that was like the old StarCraft two release plan kind
of and that didn't turn out well, and these are
these are big ass games.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean, let's be fair. The reason why they're
doing it is because they don't want to repeat of
Sarbon twenty seventy seven. They want to have every like
kind of all their ducks in a row kind of thing,
which I'm four, you know, like, yeah, at least it
when it's ready, Like, you know, people are going to
be hyped for that game regardless. I'm sure that it

(38:24):
will have another big reveal at the Game Awards. That
was a was it last year or the year before
that they had which are four it.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Was last year because they had that trailer and people
were pissed.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, I mean yeah, people were, well whatever, right, you were.
People were pissed about the dumbest stuff. So it's like,
you know, they get mad about about things that you
know aren't needed, right, but especially when it was like
this is already kind of in the works, like you're

(39:02):
getting mad about things that you already knew were coming.
You just don't want to be honest with yourself. So yeah,
I do think this is great. Hopefully we do get
more just to kind of know where the game's at
as far as well, we're not gonna really know where
the games are, but just kind of like get more

(39:22):
about it. See if you get more kind of gameplay
elements for it and stuff like that, even though you
know it is continuing that series, but kind of like
what makes Siri different?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And again, like I'd be happy if they just showed
like a mission or like, you know, here's two minutes
a gameplay or something like that, like if doesn't need
to be so well it doesn't actually be like a
full mission, but like at least like an element or something.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's been like five minutes doing that.
Like I don't think that go ahead.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Sorry, No, I was gonna say. Bear in mind like
Fables supposed to come out next year and yeah, they
still gameplay, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Well, but to be fair, Microsoft does have like their
own little show that they do in January, right, they could
show that off.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
So yeah, but I'm still saying, like you know that
game has been in development for years. It's that it's
rough patches, don't get me wrong. But even compared to
like Perfect Dark, which they showed and people were excited
about that, guy canned and Fable hasn't and it's like, you,

(40:30):
you haven't shown this game at all, Like, so it'd
be nice if they showed the Wacher four. I don't
think they will, but they've at least shown more than
like Elder Troll six.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, definitely, so, I mean that's that's positive. Well, but
other Scroll six, it's like, you know, who knows how
any we're down the line that game is, right, so
they're still they probably have a sizeable teamworking on that,
because I'm sure that they've made the scene that's doing

(41:05):
anything with Starfield much smaller at this point if they're
even doing then they announced like essentially this nast like
big update that they're doing. That's pretty much it, and
then it's kind of ready to at least on PS
five whenever they want, right, So I guess get ready

(41:25):
for that when that happens.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Maybe I don't know how much this excited you or not.
The studying of the Assassin's Creed show got leaked. Yeah,
it looks like it's going to be Rome fifty four
to sixty eight a D during Emperor Nero's.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Reign, So they're just going to reuse the Rome sets
from that Rome fur that it is brought back from HBO.
It's so I know they announce like the main actor,
I don't know his name, but it's just like some
dude like I did speaking of that. I don't know

(42:14):
if it's in your news or not, but I did
play that Assassin's Creed shadows like Attack on Titan DLC oh.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Okay, yeah, we talked about it last week.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, so like it's interesting. The main mission is
actually kind of cool because you're in this big crystal
cave with nowway like jumping between pillars, Like it felt
like an actual Assassin's Creed game or like a level
or something like that. Like you're jumping between like these
crystals and ladders and crap and killing people and then

(42:46):
it just kind of ends with you as yaske like
running away from the Titan, and like the crossover is
like barely there because like I don't know much about
Attack on Titan personally. I don't have you watched it much.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Oh yeah, I watch all of stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Okay, so I was like, are these like characters from
this world or you know, am the are? No, they're not. Well,
who who the fuck is this guy? Like the type?
You know, it was like some evil captain guy. And
then the main girl is like, I think her name

(43:25):
is like a D or a C or something like that. No,
it ain't her.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Oh yeah, like a lot of the known stuff apparently
is like the clothing.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah where uh but yeah, it's not like, oh this
is I think it's the guy from the show is
like Aaron or like that. Yeah, it ain't him. So
there's like made up characters for this crossover. And it's like,
what why didn't you just need you know, you know,

(44:00):
a fantasy world anyway? Why don't just call them that
they're by the characters from the show or the manga
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Maybe they just didn't want to you know, that that
costs more, I guess, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Well, I mean it's a crossover, so it shouldn't you know,
it shouldn't cost anything. It's the two companies working together.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
But I don't know, but that I agree with you.
It does seem kind of weird that you're not using
But I guess then they have to tie that if
they if they do too much with it, then they
have to like tie it into the.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Oh, the main girl's name is Ada, that's it, okay. R.
The guy she's trying to rescue starts as like a
G like Gustaf or something like weird like that. Okay.
But the other funny thing is I guess they're the
kind of just said that, hey, we're going to disass
to speak Shadows, like we're not making any more DLC.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
But that's good that they're not just over doing that constant.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Only well they didn't like we're going to get the
next one soon, and Shadows ended very badly, like they
should make more DLC to like tie more into the
franchise or for tied into the actual lore of this France,
you know, the Greater as a whole, like not just
go okay this even though we claimed this sold well,

(45:23):
apparently didn't or not enough for us to keep making,
you know, content for it. Said, here's more content for
the for the Crew Motorfest. It's a great banks too fair.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's not a live service game, right, you know, they
aren't trying to you know, they do kind of need
to move on to the rest of the assassas green.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Stuff, right, so you know the one that came out.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
You know, you need to have the Savidies decide that
they want to invest in shadows or or you know,
or all.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Right, replace with Mohammad, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Or well no, like what they'll do. You know, you
have to get the Japanese government to want to.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Or just suddenly cut out the entire female character. You're like,
it's a glitch in the animates. No, but.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, I guess the next one is that Hexy game.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, well the next four I mean, oh.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Well, yeah, that one, but like that one somebody kind
of like, you know, if the rumors were to be believed,
that's kind of already got a release date. So it's like,
you know that's I'm talking about that. I guess the one
we don't know about.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, like the new one, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
As somebody that's been the room and I you know,
Italian and as they that is kind of they did
have CEO from Italy, so I guess the school that
they're going to reuse that, but it is gonna be
kind of it seems like it's gonna be its own
original story. So yeah, that's good. Well at least they

(47:15):
don't They don't have to like worry about getting stuff
from the game, right.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So right, I mean it is not like the focal
point of the franchise. Sorry, I forget the guy's name,
Desmond Miles, Like they have other teams and ship in
that world, like just it'll just be about them. But
that movie just did it so badly, you know, a
decade ago that they told you how not to do it.

(47:43):
So hopefully hopefully this TV show does it correctly.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, that too, Please do it correctly.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Don't cat you know, have that main Have the guy
they announced be the like hero for the first series
or first season, and then next season, new new hero
and new setting and go from there and have like
an actual overarching present day storyline because the game's abandoned that.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, I hope so like I do hope that they
go that route of not just try to make this
one person the the same the whole time. Like, you know,
if you're really gonna go this route, like give it
every season is somebody different and and in a different setting. Also, Yeah,

(48:35):
unless they're gonna do like their own like Indiana Jones,
I guess or and he just goes to different different
places each season.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, another glitch in the animus. It's the same character
model in Japan. And then then you know New Orleans
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Right, I guess they could do that, but yeah, it's
I think the only other thing I saw that was
last Damage is suffering layoffs after they had their Transformers game,
uh canceled. Yeah, it's basically a studio wide thing, so

(49:18):
we don't know the amount of numbers yet. But they
also had the problem with Star Wars Hunters getting canceled
on them too, so.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
That other Transformers game, the Xcom game, is getting delisted
from like Steam at the end of the month.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I think, uh, which to be like bringing back Transformers games.
We keep keep canceling, so you know.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Speaking of well, some news today they're making well, they
announced for release date for Sonic for the movie.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Wow, really okay.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
And then they also announced so they're like, okay, sign
I think it was like sometime like September like seven
or something like that. And then they're like, oh, oh,
we also have another Sonic movie the next year after
that that's not Sonic five. They just said like it's
a Sonic movie, like it's they said, like Sonic Universe movie.

(50:15):
It's like, okay, all right, I guess like.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, like whatever, you know that kind of that. I
guess that is what it is.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I mean, I assume that'll just be like a Shadow movie.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
You know, yeah, you probably will. Did you see also
that they're they canceled the Ninja Turtles Dark Running.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, because they want to make Sonic They want to
like Sonic fi the Turtles. And it's like that's why
that's a horrible idea. Like I don't know if that
Last Runner movie would have been good or not, but
it would have been interesting at least. And you know

(51:03):
that making just another dumb kids Turtles movie sounds like
boring as hell. And you already have it. You know.
They at last Turtles movie, Mutants in Mayhem or whatever
it's called, actually really good.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, people liked it. That's what's so weird about it.
It's like, it's not like people hated that movie and
you got to go backwards and and like try to
revive the whole thing, or.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's yeah, they just canceled the TV show like the
cartoon based on it. But let's say they're still making
another movie based on that.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I think what's up to you? But yeah, I know
it's oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
And the rumors are making another Dead Dead Rising game.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, hey, that's good. Hopefully that means that the whatever
with that remaster remake, that they did so well enough
that they decided they wanted to do that loves loves
bringing back their old franchises.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
So right, and that game doesn't need to be some
like huge graphics like show Piece either, Like it's more
about how many zombies can you cram on screen, not
if they're all four K or not.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know, focus on fun, don't.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Well, apparently this is gonna be like more of a
throwback to the first one with like all the timers
and ship So I don't like that. I mean, to
fans of the franchise, it's good, but like to come
and folk or you know, the people who like fun games,
it's not yeah, because it's the same argument as like,

(52:49):
oh people, you know, Demon Souls has like a lot
of fans because it's brutally hard, but like Elder Ring,
it's a lot more approachable and it's a lot more
popular as well. Right, so yeah, we'll.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
See, all right, anything else you want to bring up?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
One last funny thing before we get into our list.
Did you see the thing that like Bloodlines Too didn't
do too well?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
That's not surprising.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, it's like what do you expect when the game
has been in development for like eight years and.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It also came out I think like in the middle
of like just felt like a this got put out
there to die.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, it didn't have a lot of buzz or you know,
and it was I didn't review that well either, and
people weren't happy with it. So it's like, yeah, I
can I can see why this didn't do too well.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah. No, I mean it felt like that came out
and you know, you don't have, like you said, no buzz,
nobody's talking about it. It was a super niche thing. Anyway,
you haven't made it gout.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I'm I mean, I'm amazed I got made in the
first place. It's it's like the same like Rationale. It's
like the making Tron three. It's like, oh, people love Tron.
It's like, yeah, it took them twenty years for people
to like Tron, like people like vampires like Bloodlines won.

(54:24):
But it's like that game wasn't a success when it
came out, Like it took them like fifteen years for
people to like like it, and this is like radically
different from that. So why would you expect people like
this one?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Because you know, it's uh, you have to like it.
It's no.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Recognition doesn't do it alone these days.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I mean that the what was it, the one before
the most recent one was actually kind of like good
in a cult way.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like the last actual game.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
No, I was not about the Tron movie.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Sorry, oh you mean Tron Legacy. Yeah, that like that
was all. That's all right, don't get me wrong, but
like that wasn't a success when that came out either.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Right, that wasn't something like, oh my god, that means
we're gonna make a third one. It's like, I mean,
I guess it's cool that they let them like do it,
but I hope that like Disney wasn't sitting there going, oh, yeah,
this is gonna make like a gazillion dollars or what
you know, like hopefully you radured your success there with that. Yeah,

(55:35):
because yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Don't worry. When Tron three eventually turns a profit in
like twenty forty three, they'll make in the third, they'll
make a fourth one.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Right, That's that's the truth, but all right, anything else
therefore you Okay, Well, like we said, there our big
thing this week, which I said, I thought we're gonna

(56:05):
do a couple of weeks ago, but then like we
had a bunch of news, so I kind of like
pulled it, and so I'm sure there's gonna be another
week where there it's like nothing. So we're gonna do
our best PS two games of all time here since
the twenty fifth anniversary of the PS two. You know

(56:28):
if actually I don't think we've done we haven't done that.
Did we do Original Xbox at one point?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, so we got to do Original Xbox at some point.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Trying to find ten games for that, I.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Mean, technically you could do ten games, it just it
might be you know, it's a very short list of
ten games right for that for sure? But all right,
what are your like? So we're gonna do like a
top ten uh whatever crime to your you want, But
basically it's supposed to be your whether it's your ten

(57:02):
favorites or you want to say the ten greatest or
whatever it is. But what's your like seven through ten?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
My number ten is Psychonauts And I tried to pick
games that were like, it's not exclusive kind of least
lead on the platform, right, So number ten seconds, number nine,
shim go my tense, not turn Number eight, twenty Hawk
Underground the first one, and then number seven is Kingdom

(57:37):
Hearts won.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Ah. Interesting. I love Kingdom Hearts one, but.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I recognize that, like, don't get me wrong, Kingdom Hearts
two is a better game than Kingdom Hearts one, right.
I think Kingdom Hearts one is a more ambitious game though,
and not everything they tried work. Don't get me wrong.
That that little Mermaid level sucks ass and the Gummies
ship thing is nonsense and everything like that, but I

(58:11):
like it more, even like rough Edges and all. Personally.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, I don't blame you. I loved One was like
the game I played over and over and over. Obviously,
you know I was gonna say it too, is gonna
be on my list.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Sure I expected that.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It's It's obsessibly the better game, no doubt. It is
them at their peak with everything when it comes to
like storytelling, the gameplay, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I think one is like a more charming game.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Though, yes, no one like especially because it's like it's
so novel at that point, like to go into the
Disney Worlds feels like kind of special because it's the
first time. Uh, it's like mysterious and all that too.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
And it also had the more like the Final Fantasy hook,
yes it did, right, which has gotten way away from.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Which the like you know no more was explained why so,
which I I don't. I hate that that is a thing,
right right, Like I wish that it wasn't, because that
is the foundation of that game. Without Final Fantasy, you
don't have Kingdom Hearts, right. I kind of get it though,

(59:29):
as Disney has allowed them to use more Disney care
like letting them use Mickey is such a huge deal.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah, they have more like more Disney shit in Kingdom
Hearts now than like Kingdom Hearts three versus one, obviously,
but I still like the Final Fantasy stuff in it more.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Oh but three. Like man, I hate the fact that
they like went too far on in three, like you
didn't need the whole l so yeah thing in there,
and yeah, it just it almost sold like an afterthought,
like they could have really done the game almost with

(01:00:13):
less of the Disney stuff because they have so much
of their own stuff to tell. So but my Uh, well,
where's my list? Said, what did I do with this? Here?

(01:00:36):
SSX Tricky is my number ten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
There was like a lot of them, like I don't
know if I wanted to put this on there, putting
a different one on there, and I kind of had
to like go through that process of I'm like, all right,
I don't know. Mvuh. Prince of Person's Sense of Times
number nine. Love that game. Uh. I feel like it's

(01:01:06):
that true what they wanted Prince of Person to be
when they remade it, and they kind of made it
more into like an action right game after that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Which it used to be a platformer and then got
to work him out and then like, I don't, let's
make one of these. I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
NBA Street Volume two is my number eight, and uh,
God of War two is my number seven.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I probably my favorite of the God of Wars, but
God of War one is also great too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So see, I don't like any of those old God
of War games.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You don't, okay, I mean yeah, and Cradles is a
terrible character at.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
That yeah point, but I like I like the Norse
ones obviously, but yeah, like those old ones. I'm just like,
ea all right, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, what's your I guess all the way to number
three or number two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I'll just go to three. My number six was grandfather
thought of Vice City A number five is catemoried to
MASSI and number four is MEMBERGA Solid two and number
three is Persona Persona four.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
All right, any of those of like why.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Or for Vice City? Like I think like GTA three
and Vice City are basically the same game more or less,
but like Vice City adds a character and like a
story and it is like much more representative of like
what GTA is now, uh like with the satire and

(01:02:58):
you know, the specific music cues and stuff like that.
Ah Katamario Demasu is fun, like it's a still an
inventive and interesting game. And then Persona fours kind of
where the series blew up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, I am five blew it
out of the you know, right for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
H And Also I think, like I honestly think that
GTA game or not GTA, but like Rockstar games are
getting like worse, Like I'm excited for GTA six, but
I'm dreading it. How bloated it It's it's gonna be
and like that's why I've been playing Red Dead Redemption
one is because that game is like slightly bloated, but

(01:03:44):
it's still pretty decent about like the length or like
you can ignore a lot of the side stuff. But
that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
It's unfortunate that they had to like decide that Grand
Theft Auto had to become their game, right, their their
live service thing, yeah, instead of just oh, it's a
game in along with other games that we make.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, like that's what I never finished for a Dead
Redemption too, because I just got bored of the story,
Like it's just so meandering and it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Come on, like, yeah you I was similar, like I
didn't well, I didn't want to keep going. I didn't
really like the thing is in general, just because it
was so slow and yeah, it's like, yep, I'm not
getting the why this is great thing, but I can
understand why people would think it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Like, yeah, you want to spend ninety hours playing this game?
You know, I'm sure it's great, but I don't really
want to do that, so I'd better pick up a
twenty or thirty hour game instead. I agree, what about
your six through three?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Number six is resident before?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I So okay, I was going to have that on
my list, but I consider it a GameCube.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Game, right, Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Saying with that Beautiful Joe, like, oh yeah this came
out see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Like beautiful Joe, I didn't even think about for PSC
because that I really do consider a GameCube game, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Which is funny because the PS two version is a
much better version of that game than the GameCube one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Uh, we'll have to do top GameCube games. At one point.
I feel like, okay, well they did do it with
the putting it on switch to but like Nintendo has
not really been doing a oh this is the anniversary
of the GameCube.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Right because like this is like only like three game
GameCube games that people care about, and one of them Darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Well that game. Who knows that they're ever gonna like
that would be amazing if they could put that on
switch online, but they won't, right. Shadow of the Colossus
number five, yep, amazing game obviously has been you know,
remastered now a few times. Simpson's Hit and Run till
the best Simpsons game. Uh. I will never forget coming

(01:06:08):
in there my dad watching it and going what are
you doing? Like you know, because I didn't play Grand
Theft Auto, but this was like you know Simpsons. Grand thought,
He's like, why are you running over someone? What is this? Like?
I was like, are you playing that GTA? And I
was like, no, no, this is not it. You see
the Simpsons there, this is the Simpsons. He left me alone,

(01:06:29):
but he didn't know that it was supposed to be
a gtaqual and on purpose. Three is Okami. I think
I've talked about how much I love that game in
the past, but Capcom it's awesome that they're making the sequel.
I never thought there would be a sequel to that game,

(01:06:49):
so right, yeah, especially coming here coming back for that. Uh.
You know, if you, for some reason you haven't played
that game by now, yo, it's yourself. It's an amazing
Selda like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Everybody should play be fair and then you can probably
guess my number two and one. Number two is the
Keen of Arts two h it's the best keen of
marts has ever been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
What about Chain of Memories? Man, come on the card game?

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
No, I can't card stuff. You just don't even get
me started with that. I think it's a great idea
for like, Okay, we have to have these on this
system that obviously cannot do the graphics or whatever. But
if you tell me I want to go back, I
definitely don't want to go back and play those, right,

(01:07:43):
there's a reason why they made those into movies when
they did the collections to go see what. Don't want
to go back and play them either. And then a
number one is I've talked about why ten is important
to me. I wouldn't like j RPG's without Fantasy ten.
And it's a great game in its own right. It's,

(01:08:03):
you know, in my top five Silicon fantasies. And I mean, hey,
the vowel system is awesome, the music is awesome, the
stories it is what it is, you know, but it's
got its emotional moments there. But yeah, what was your

(01:08:24):
number one?

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
My number? My number two is Bully welly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Okay, Yeah, you've always been a big champion of that game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, I consider that like the picture perfect like Rockstar game,
and I'm forever pissed and they're not gonna make a sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah, I know it sucks. And of course Dan Hauser like,
you know, just poo poo that idea. He's like, there
was never a Bully to everybody's just wishing to get
into existence.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
It's like, yeah, why why bother giving people what they want?
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
And then my number one is actual O Comy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Okay, I'll be down for that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah. I love that game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, so, like seriously, it is an awesome game if
you have not played that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
The only the only real problem for Comedy is like
the first area is a little slow, like once if
you get outside the town.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Then yeah, because they're trying to do all that exposition story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Part right, Yeah, I just like it does like side quests, right,
and that's something that Zelda has never really done correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Oh sacrilege talking about well, I mean, but something isn't
really is it really about side quests. It's definitely feels
more like you're just going on adventure and there's stuff
that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
It's like, you know, well, the newer ones that definitely
have them, but even oh yeah yeah, even like the
old ones kind of did, but it was just like
it's like one or two usually like trading quests and
that was about it. It's like, all right, I guess
i' trade this flower for a chomp chomp or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Yeah, all right, that's our top ten PlayStation two games.
I'm sure if we had somebody else in here, I
forgot to ask for Randy with his stopped in I'm
sure his would be completely different. He probably have a
Jack and Daxter in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
But I didn't like those games at that era, So
his number one so or like Sly Cooper or something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, Sluckepers also was great. That's the era when those
those three platformers were awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
You know, uh, prefore being fell apart.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Right, there's Dragon Quest eight in there too. That that's
where Dragon Quest kind of like was the first time
I kind of blew up here a little bit was
eight game to de Yeah, it did that helped it
also right off past the twelve demo, so I did not.

(01:11:04):
He might have on past the twelve, I did not.
I just like, yeah, you didn't have it because you
liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Yeah, but I like the fixed version so okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah, true, the the one that they brought it up
in age. Yeah, so tendically you can buy it on
a PSC, but you got to buy the Japanese right version.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Like I think Toman ten is like a flashier game
or yeah, it's more about like it's more about like
tom of Pansy seven, but like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Twelve, it's much more like you know, it kind of
definitely comes from that tactics background with the Town because
it makes you think with the Gamut system, right and
all that, which, Yeah, then of course they had to
go release all those spinoffs which weren't right. Yeah, greater

(01:12:01):
that's what it is. But this week is like the
last week of a lot of stuff releasing. This is
like the last major Okay, you've probably got something you're
you're excited about for this week, and then after that
it kind of drops off. I mentioned Marvel Cosmic Invasion
is out on everything today. Uh, if you're waiting for

(01:12:25):
the Switch to to get Assassine Creed Shadows, that's out tomorrow, right,
Destiny two Renegades that's got the Star Wars stuff in it.
That's coming to everything except Switch and Switch too. You've
got to read the Redemption coming to the modern consoles

(01:12:47):
right on December two as well. You got the some
Mogo Legacy collection, which is like all of Likeo's old
stuff before they released oh god, they had I can't
think of the name right now, like a big release

(01:13:08):
that people loved a lot, and then this kind of
led them to releasing this like it's escaping me at
the moment. The Leaded Dianferno game is also coming on
the third.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
You have.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Culture Lamb Hitting Phones, the Elden Ring Night Rain for Sake,
and Hollows is also coming on the fourth, Metro Pime
four Beyond on the fourth, Octorpath Travelers zero on the fourth,
Routine is coming also. I think that's in game pass
on PC on Sonic Racing Cross Rolls comes to switch

(01:13:50):
to AH and you got the Thief VR game, which
that's one of the first times when I saw a
VR game really kind of wanted to play it, right,
And then also you have is that there's something else
that was coming this week also but and the Toss

(01:14:14):
of Crusaders it's also coming. Uh but yeah, man, there's
this's a lot in this one week, right. Uh So, yeah,
I'm sure that there's something uh there. I don't know
if I want to get a review code for the
Ocoba Traveloys zero. I still need to play a little

(01:14:34):
bit more, much more of the demo before we get
to the fourth. You're gonna get that Metro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Prime probably eventually. I never played any of the Metro Prime games,
so so you didn't. Okay, I have a GameCube for
a while, and I'm not one told in that, you know,
first person, first person perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
But yeah, I really liked the first one. Yeah, I
never get to play the second or third one because
you know, once you got to the Wei that was
not for me. But and I wonder if the second
there one ever gonna come out with. It's like it
feels like that was just holding those right. But all right,

(01:15:16):
that's about it for uh this week. Thank everybody for watching.
If you watch live or listen later, check us out later.
You can on the Day two network YouTube channel. If
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(01:15:41):
you're broadcasting. They're probably doing their movie review shortly here.
I forgot which movie it is that came out this week.
That was big.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
I'm snives out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
And then yeah, we'll be back next week. Uh. Until then, everybody,
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