February 24, 2026 • 53 mins
Indie folk artist John Kairis joins Vigilantes Radio Live to discuss his latest duet “Come on now, that’s not how you do it” from the album Magic Flag 🎸✨. Blending folk, jazz, Zen influences, and improvisational songwriting, John explores music as discovery rather than formula. We dive into his evolution from punk bands and electronic production to banjo, ukulele, and harmony-driven compositions 🎶. With over a dozen albums and a deeply human approach to sound in the age of AI music, this episode explores creativity, collaboration, spirituality in songwriting, and the power of authentic musical expression. 🌌🎧
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write a song. Others sit down and listen for what
the uni verse is trying to say through them. Because
creation at its perious form is not controlled. It is surrender,
It is in provision, It is trust and unseen melody
before it ever becomes a sound. Tonight's guest doesn't chase perfection.
(01:55):
He chases present from punk bands to scents from Joe
and ukulele to meditative folk texture, from solo work, through
brotherhood and harmony. His music reminds us that the human voice,
the physical instrument, and the spirit behind the sound still matter.
In an error rushing towards artificial creation. Are you guys getting.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Tired of that? Yet? Not yet? Are you? Are you?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I susiually want to know, because I don't know. That's
for another time, right, another conversation. But anyway, when music
is treated as a gift instead of as a product,
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who are out there giving it. They're all for me,
for you, and for the world. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
our special guest. He is a multi instrumentalist, songwriter and
indie folk artists with over a dozen albums showcasing his
artistic evolution from early piano lessons in Delaware to punk bands,
(04:43):
dem experimentations, and now folk driven compositions. John Cairis creates
music rooted in improvision, harmony, and spiritual discovery. His latest album,
Magic Flag, features the standout duet come On Now, That's
Not how You Do It, blending brotherhood, grit, and emotional
(05:05):
death through collaborative vocals.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So please join me, Insane.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Welcome friend to John Tyris.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hey, welcome to the show. Hello, Hello, thank you for
having me. Absolutely. How's it going.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
It's gone well, yeah, it's a nice evening. I'm in Philadelphia.
We got some snow yesterday. It's the slushy snow. It
just gets kind of kind of a nasty, swampy wet.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know. Yeah. Yeah, so well, first, welcome to the show, John.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I was watching the news yesterday and just I'm
from the South and that's where I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Currently at now. On the news.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, but yesterday on the news, man, just all the
blizzards that are happening like the New England North North
Eastern area. Have you guys experienced any blizzard or is
it just the slushy snow?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Oh? Man, I mean we got like a foot yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
I just saw melting really quickly, so I was just
like wet all over the city, you know. Yeah, this
one wasn't as bad as the one that we got
earlier in January that was rock solid ice for like
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
This one has not not being quite so fearsome and scary.
Yeah yeah, yeah, January was it was.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was bad, but not as bad as it was.
I went through one in the nineties. I was a kid,
but we didn't have power for like six weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Man, I was in Jackson, Mississippi at the time. The
only thing that was good about it school was counseling.
But that also but that also meant we had to
go to school in the song, which slept. But hey,
no school in the winter, Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I guess that's not bad. Yeah, as long as you got.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Something to do and you don't drive your your fellow
family members up at Tria, fine yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And then two it was the nineties, so we were
not yet digitized, so you know, we could actually use
our imaginations back then and not be like, oh my
my iPads. Did you know my Internet's not working? But
other than that, you must see yeah, oh go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, you must feel a little older than me.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I was born in ninety three, so you know, and
I never had a snowstorm that put me out for
like six weeks in Delaware, and you know, but there
was there was maybe a snowstorm that put out our
power for like.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
A week I think when I was a kid a
week or two. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
We did have board games and we had candles always
like candle in the winter if you got power on
her off.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, yeh see, that's what I'm talking about, board games
and candles. You can't beat that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, can
I beat it? Well, John Man, Before we just really
dive into everything concerning John the world of John you
know what's been on your heart and mind lately as
an artist who views songwriting more as discovery than construction.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Oh well, right now I'm in the discovery act. I'm
working on the next album, well, the next album after
this is basically done. Just working on my buddy to
say yes for album art so I'm gonna have other
one after Magic Flag called Villain that's going to be
out hopefully early March, just because it has a very
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early March vibe.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To the music. And so I'm working on the album.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
After that one, which I believe is going to be
called Cavalcade.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And what I'm doing in.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
That process that is a discovery act, is figuring out
how the songs are going to grow and develop from
the core structure that they begin at, which is a.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Companiment instrument plus my voice.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
So I'm practicing the songs and I can play them
all solo.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So now it's the act of seeing, oh, how do
how do we want to build this up? What ornamentation
do we want to put in there? And I do that.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
By I often ask, or lately especially I've been asking
friends to contribute stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Jay medow on, come on, now, that's not how you do.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
It is one of the first, like biggest collaborations that
I've done since releasing solo music, and then besides the collapse,
figuring out what other instruments I want to put on it,
the saxophone, a banjo, ukulele, guitar, piano, mixing and matching
all of.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Those right, right, right, man, you release music at a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Quick rapid pace.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm on the grind and you have to Yeah, you're
on a grind definitely, and you know you have to
push and market and promote all of these projects. So
do you allow yourself time to sit with it before you.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Move on to the next thing.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I sit with it enough, man, I mean sometimes maybe
sometimes I go I listened to an earlier song and
I play it and I'm like, well, I could have
done that differently, But that's okay.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The song is out in the world, and if someone
else wants to cover it, they can.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I think I've got a lot of songs that are
coverable material, And plus it's a cover for me. Every
time I play it live, I'm playing a song with
someone else wrote a while ago that happens to be
in the same body that I'm living in right now,
So it feels like a recreation every time I do it.
Though there are some that I played regularly that you know,
(11:04):
have been a part of me for a while, or
core repertoire. Right, But yeah, I released yeah twelve albums
over the past few years, like one.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hundred and twenty hundred and thirty songs. Yeah, you're working
very fast.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Is there are Is there an end goal here or
a purpose of the plethora of music?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Well, the purpose is that that is my purpose to
write music. It's something that I do that I have
an education at. And I've I've always been drawn too.
So I'm a I'm a theist, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
A God believing man, and I.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Think that since that's what I'm drawn to, I've pretty
good hunch that that's what I'm meant.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
To do, absolutely, man, and I believe that too. You're
using a gift that was given to you by God,
and why not use it? You don't use it, you
lose it yet?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, so you mentioned you know you're educated in you know,
in the music room. I would I would guess music theory.
Yeah you started, Yeah, you started with piano basics as
a child, stepped away and then returned to a more
technical approaching college. What was going on in that gap
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of time between childhood and you know, college musically for you?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Here you're interviewing me, You're asking what's the gap in
my career?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
What is the gap employment? I wasn't working. Explain this
gap in your resume? No, I'm kidding just the time
I wasn't working.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Sure, no, man, I know, I wanted to be a
musician when I was a kid, but I just didn't
pursued vocationally. So I was under the impression that I
was going to be a doctor or a lawyer, and
then I was going to do music.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
On the side.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
And then at a certain point I decided I didn't
want to just do music on the side.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I wanted to pursue it as a primary vocation.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Now, even after I made that decision, there are certain
there are many points where music hasn't been my primary
for primary vocation.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
One of those points is still today.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I make the bulk of my money working as a mover,
and I hardly make any money at all doing music.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I make it a little bit doing.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Teaching a choir, a community choir for seniors in Philadelphia,
and I did teach music for two and a half years,
So that was more of you know, making a financial
living for myself with music. But yeah, you know, I
had some meandering this in my life, some uh, just
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the moments trying to figure out where I fit in right,
like a lot of people. So I'm in my early
thirties now, and I feel, you know, pretty uh, I
guess a stable and uh I've got a little more
stapaicility at least in my in my mind and spirit
I feel in this moment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Then I've had it a minute. But you know, sometimes
you do need to wander. You do need to wander.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Mm hmmm yeah, the wonder, Yeah yeah, yeah, and oh
yeah yeah, wonder in wonder. You know, you kind of
wander into wondering and wandering into wondering.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
If if you get my yeah, and that's a cool
that's a cool title.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Right, Hey, man, you got you We're right now, You're
gonna get at the next record you need.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Look at that. Man, your collaborative spirit is rubbing off
on me. I love that.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I love of the people making making songless really yeah,
one of my biggest stories.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So I would assume that there is a advantage of
being like educationally trained in music. I used to be
an artist back in the day. And you're right, I
am a little bit older than you, ten years approximately.
I was born in eighty three, so I'm so I'm
forty two. Wow, it's my first time saying on No Player.
(15:34):
But anyway, yes, prize forty two. But anyway, Uh, when
producers were making beats, you know, I was given like
time signatures and things of that nature, reading notes and
it's like, dude, it's not that serious, And say, what
do you mean it is that serious? I say, once
you understand what you're actually doing, you know the highest
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and lows the tones to beat per measure. Once you
understand those kinds of things from theory, you know, the
world is almost endless when you can read and write music.
So for you, did you find being educated in music
and advantage for you?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah? Yeah, it opened up a whole new world. Now.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I was writing music before I got a proper education
in it because I went to college and I went
to college for political science and I actually did house shows.
And while I was in college and was making music,
and I had a basic understanding of theory because I
played a little bit of piano and a little bit
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of guitar, and I could read music from the saxophone.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But I didn't have a proper like conservatory education until.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I went back to school and got a master's in
music composition from Temple.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And that was revelatory for me, and it really it
helped me see.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Songs from many different perspectives.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That that's helpful, and I love the process of writing
down the notes on paper.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You've gone from pump bands like Static X to electronic
aliases to andy folk. Do you see your journey as
reinventing yourself or more of a natural evolution?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Oh? Yeah, it's a fun question. I think it's I
think it would have to be both. You know, when
we uh uh, we.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
We have to reinvent ourselves, when we mature, when we age,
or when we change at all, there's a there's a
destruction of the younger self. It's like a destruction and
an assimilation of the younger self every time we change
or go through a new phase.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
And that is natural. Mm hmm. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
It's natural to go through phases, for the old self
to die and for a new self to be born.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
That is true. That is true.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So in the vein of birth, I guess you could
say the creation of Come on, now, that's not how
you do it.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
We want to talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
You describe the vocal dynamic as a disciplarian deity versus
earnest desperation.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I think that's a powerful concept.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Can you dive a bit deeper into what that means
for our listener.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, so.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
For me, the song in itself paints the picture. And
this is just my vision as I have it. What
I find great about songs, and anyone can recognize this
is that you know, a lot of times you don't
even hear all the lyrics, right, so you kind of
interpret what words you hear and what you pick out,
and you create a narrative from it, a narrative that.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Speaks to you and to your experience. So I wrote
the song and I.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Played it many many times, or the song was written
through me, so I know the lyrics well. And the
vision that I get is someone who is struggling against
difficult circumstances, and those circumstances are pollution, incoming, quality, poverty,
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the grit of working in this da and age in
this economy, and the voice in their head. You know,
that's the world and the voice and the world is
propelling forward and forward, and you have no choice to
move through but to move through it despite the consistent,
(19:58):
sometimes physically taxing.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Often physically taxing challenges the voice in your head, uh is,
But perhaps in the context of this song, not comforting
but stern and demanding, saying, come on.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Now, that's not how you do it.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And that that that I find a lot of humor.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Enjoy that because sometimes that is the voice. It is.
It is a it is a disciplinarian.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
And whether or not that voice is something that we
give space to, that's for each of us to decide.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Absolutely, absolutely so, John, I have a confession.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I like Colt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I like Colts, and I would I would join a cult,
you know, until you know they passed a kool aid around.
That's where I draw the line. That's where I draw
the line I from. Okay, yeah, so I'm just being funny.
But you created the first Unitarian Church of Philadelphia and for.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
For people saying, oh, that's a cult, you know. No,
like I said, I'm just joking, but it's for teaching. Yeah, yeah,
sometimes the cult.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, and Joan is kind of like a cult name,
you know, John, But yeah, but uh, you know this.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Church is for teaching people how to scene with others.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
No, no, that's not that's not entirely what it's about.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So yeah, yeah for me to no, no, no, it
was the church. The church isn't about that, like all
of churches, or.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
At least a lot of Christian churches specifically, but also
synagogues at least the the couple that I've been to
those communities singing, I've actually never been to a mosque,
but I've been to many Christian church which is Unitarian
universalism is a.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Christian fact that.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Evolved out of two a Christian sex universalists who believed
that everyone was destined for heaven and Unitarians who believed
in one God and decided to not honor the trinity
so much. But we're more fan of the oneness of God,
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and they merged at a certain point.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It is like the Senate. A Unitarian Universalism as it
exists today.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Is a very progressive community of believers, believers in many
different things, but guided by a series of principles that
involve the interdependence of life, the belief in religious and
secular pluralism, seeking the divine from many paths, as well
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as honoring the inherent worth and dignity of every human
being and for me, all life.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That is how the church exists. Now.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
We just have in Philadelphia, at the first Sanitarian Church
in Center City, a really great music program led by
the brilliant John D.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Hedges, who leads our program with.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Gospel songs, classic like classical choral stuff in.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The Latin or Italian or French.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
We've got a great rock band with a rotating group
of volunteers, right, and we do songs from classic rock
era into the modern era. It's just a great music
program that kind of showcases what the church is all about,
which is pluralism.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Everyone's got something to offer and we're alling in together.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yes, indeed, I do have to create myself. I said
that you created, and what I meant it to say.
What I meant to say was that you credit it.
So a slight credited Yeah, yeah, slight differences in words
and ands why I wrote the bad jokes.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But we'll move along.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
No, I've not created any church. No, I'm a I'm
a member of the church. And you know what's what's
great about this community is my specific faith belief as
a member of this church community are.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Different than everyone else. Everyone else has different faith beliefs.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
There is no really overarching doctrinal though the church is
guided by principles and also politics that is consistently very progressive.
Right like the early days, the early days of the church,
they were one of the loudest voices for abolition here
(24:57):
in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
So they go away. Hmm okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I
I'm familiar with Unitarian just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You mentioned that executing music for the sake of God
and the universe.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
How does that perspective influence your artistic discipline? All right?
You know what? Better?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yet, does that create some greater sense of responsibility when
it comes to like the subject matter or the spiritual
part of me?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
It definitely creates a sense of responsibility.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I don't know how it guides subjects matter, though I do.
I do speak of God frequently in my songs, in
the lyrics. There's references in the divine all over the place.
But simply that's because is what that's what flows through me.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
You know. They call it a stream of consciousness because.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
It's literally a river, a river that flows through our minds,
as well as the minds of all conscious creatures and
probably the the corporeal and spiritual bodies of many different creatures.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Right. So, when you pull from stream of.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Consciousness, which is a way that I essentially write though
a narrative and a scene often comes from that. I
hope and I pray that it is an expression of
the divine or a communion of the divine. I'm simply
trying to get as close to God as possible. Not
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myself becoming God, but I want to become close to God.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The ego that it, that is that is me is.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Seeking just some some influence from the divine. And so
the songs that I write, I think of it as
just my small, my small offering to the world saying,
you know, I looked within and I looked without, and
this is what I found, and I hope that you
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find something in there as well.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So it's just it's a simple responsibility to do my best.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I don't know about the subjects matter, but yeah, I
think that faith ascribes the responsibility to.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Do our best, absolutely man, absolutely well, especially if like
all things, all people in the inn or you know,
led to the divine, uh, which I believe is is
you know, somewhat true. And music is a large catalyst
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of how we form our opinions sometimes and how we
you know, perceive emotions because you know, you listen to
a song like, hey, this is a soundtrack to my life.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You know this is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Happening right now, and you and you and the emotion
comes from the artist who has experienced that or walk
that walker, you know, writing a song about someone he knows,
you know, or watching a movie.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
That's that's how me and my bandmates do.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
We used to watch a movie and try to write
songs to the movie.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Because we know we were out of ideas.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I was pretty much like the action you know, jumping
out of windows rescuing damsels, and he was, you know,
the boring type. So we would have to just pick
uh movies to write to. But I said to say
that subject matter is an important.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Thing in music because you have music.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Like Michael Jackson's once said, you know, there's mantras in music,
and mantras can control not to sound witchy, but you
know you can you can put a spell on yourself
because there's power and words. So I think subject matter
is important if you're such a fore divine. But in
the same token, emptiness can lead to the fulfillment from God,
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you know, being in the best, but can lead to
one needing God. But I've also seen that destroy people.
To what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
So, yeah, mantras are are definitely important.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I feel like the mantra comes to me and sometimes, Yeah,
a lot of my songs do end with a mantra,
with a repeated phrase, and it simply seems like the
best thing to.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Do to end to the song.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
It's like there's a phrase that we come to and
like that's it, and I keep repeating it. You know,
there's great power and repetition. Sometimes the words can stop
meaning the things, right. That's my there's a part of
my brain that's resistant to the idea that these acts meaning.
If a word or a phrase in mantra can influence ourselves.
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The words definitely do have meaning in themselves, but there's
also additional meaning created.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
With the way that we say the words.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
It's not what you say, it's how you say it
and the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Meaning and the spirit behind it. I don't know what
that is.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
And then, as far as your thought on emptiness, get
emptiness is.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Something that I think about, a place to get to
that can be nice.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I mean, there's always something moving through us, right that
sometimes things are stale and need to be emptied.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And that's part of.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
My impulse to put songs out and not hold on
to them too long. I like to put them out
when they feel fresh. I empty my cup and and
then my cup is ready to be filled with new ideas.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And I'm so.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I try not to labor it too much, to give
the song as is, you know, enough love so that
they can stand.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
On their own. I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I really like that, especially, you know the cup analogy.
What is your favorite sound from Come On Down? That's
not how you do it?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh? My favorite sound in the song?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Oh, it's definitely my roommate's voice, Javante, because he is
not on any other things, and I'm just I was
really happy to get him on there.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And he does a lot of cool things with his voice.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
I mean, the first time his voice comes in with
this nice little ooh falsetto, and also.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
The da da dados that he does in unison with
me at the end of the song. There's there a
couple of great moments. Nice.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So you've added banjo, ukulele, guitar, since and vocals into
your tool kit. Which of those instruments do you feel
most connected to your emotional dispission right now?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Oh? Well, I I it's very it's very difficult having.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
When I got five different instruments that are my main instruments,
right Piano, guitar, ukulele, dan jo, and saxophone. So that's
difficult because I want to I want to show all
the instruments love, and you know those instruments, They instruments.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Like to be played. They don't like to be left alone. Though.
I have an old.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Guitar that's sat on the wall of my little home studio,
an older acoustic that I don't use anymore. I just
got two guitars and I just played my newer one
my tailor, and my older court sits on the wall,
and you know, she doesn't get played, but that's where
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she sits.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
That's fine. I think she's cool with it.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
As far as I mean in this moment, I'm really
I'm enjoying the piano in a particular way.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
The album that I'm working on, Cavalcade.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Has a lot of songs that are ukulele because I
was having a moment where I was waking up in
the middle of the night and just up for a
few hours, and the only instrument that I could play
at you know, two or three am without waking my
roommate was the ukulele. So I was writing songs really late.
So there's a lot of ukulele songs on the album
after the next one, and I'm building up these tracks.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I'm basically just doing ukulele and then some piano on
top of that.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
And I'm really enjoying writing the piano parts to the
ukulele foundation that I'm creating. So yeah, my piano I love.
It's a stamic, upright piano that I bought off Craig's
list nice for like six hundred bucks, great price, and
it's from eighty five. I think, wow, and it just
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as it is a really strong, really strong sound.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
This is it.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
H h h.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
M hmm.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
This is it with the soft pedal on right, So
the soft pedal is is quite lovely.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That all.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Here's the full sound, not much different, not much different.
It's a really pretty instrument.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I just love it when artists break out in song
or instruments and live interviews.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, it is all right, My listeners want to check
out some music and we have it queued up. It's
called come on now, that's not how you do it,
and then we'll be right back to put John in
our traditional hot seat to see if he wants to
perform for us. You know, he could play an instrument,
he could sing. He could rap, he could tell us
(35:30):
a story, a joke, inspirations, some advice, or he could
do nothing at all. That is cool as well, but
for right now here it is. Come on now, that's
not how it's done. Stay tuned, Cam's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Get away now.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
The serpents tide tight around your ankles and set in
poisoned pulses. The more you struggle, Come on now, that's
not how you do it. You gotta rip through it.
(36:17):
Take it off now. Swimming in the sewage, you gotta
key moving bearing fists and rocks, fucking with the hair clocks,
something up the stocks with excisement, losing steam on the
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crag and mountain gleam, and the rocks aren't what they seem.
If you take a closer. The pages me in peace,
and I don't know how to read. I'll offer you
a bean if you teach me how to cook, darling,
please my angel page. Come live the dream out of
(37:15):
your cobweb. Crook Lovers seek an enchanted beam that leaves
a green path underfoot. Come on, now, that's not how
you do it. You gotta rip through it. Take it
(37:36):
off now. Swiming in the sewage, you gotta cave moving
bearing fists and rocks stucking with there fox something up
the stocks, who.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Come on?
Speaker 10 (37:58):
Now, that's how you do it. You gotta rip through it,
take it off now, swimming in the sewage. You gotta
keep moving, bearing fists and rocks stucking with their clocks.
(38:23):
Something off the stocks with excitment dot dotto excisement. Yeah,
with excisement dot ato excisement. Yeah, with excitment dot at
(38:48):
of excisement. Yeah, with excitment, not atto excitment.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
All right, all right, welcome back again.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That was come on. Now, that's not how it's done
by John Tiris. Some real beautiful.
Speaker 9 (39:12):
Oohs and ahs, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Mixture of there's a lot of sounds, but if you like,
close your eyes and haun in on one particular one
that you like. I know it's a little hard, but
gotta really really just focus on one sound that's really
driving it, and then you play it again, listen to
(39:38):
the next sound, play it again, and listen to the
next sound, and keep going until you fully embody the
melodies and everything that's happening all at once in this track.
So try that, Yeah, try that after the show, right,
the show, and let us know your thoughts as well.
I would love to hear them all right, the spring
(40:00):
going back. Hey, hey, welcome back. You're back live with
us and in our hearts.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Are you going to perform for us? That's what I
was thinking of. If if you're down to hear a
song at a live one, if you want, absolutely we'll
love to hear it. All right. So I got I
tested the sound earlier. I got AirPods pro in. I
(40:29):
got my guitar here, and I'm gonna singing something. I
think it'll I think it will sound all right coming through.
All right, all right, you can hear this guitar a
little bit faintly, all right, cool. The guitar will be
quieter than my voice. That'll be fun. Here we go.
Speaker 8 (40:47):
H I miss you, but I know it's me who's
(41:15):
always pulling away. I can't grow if I keep casting
myself in the shade a home Kenndly, live so long
on the faith.
Speaker 11 (41:32):
Oh that's forever, pever in your arms. Oh, I park
my car, O goden back of them barn where you are.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
Laying in the hay day.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Let's pray one send her hole. I'll sheathe my blade
ells and may killed many men up till today on
made on day, to the fire merge unscathed. Cast my
(42:26):
dane upon the fool who lives for a game.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
May he fall. I kiss you.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
Like you're the only one I've ever known, But we
both know how I've.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
Betrayed you, lied and dismayed you. I'm lucky you would
take me back, and I won't run if I could
only stick to the sack.
Speaker 12 (43:24):
Oh, that's forever, forever in your arms. Oh our parkner,
car ou babum, back.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
Of them barn where you are playin' in the hay, Babe.
Let's pray once and for all. I'll save my blade
ells in make killed many a man up till to day,
(44:08):
on the on day, and to the fire merge unscathed.
He knows, alcol if I'm gone before she wake. Goodness
sake is that the mist upon the lake gathered in
(44:32):
the sun as.
Speaker 8 (44:34):
The earth resumes it shake.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Fade. Let's pray you.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
And send for all the silent spray. He cracked the case,
bounced the ball upon my face.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
There's that.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Wow, thank you so much, man. Yes, I enjoyed it.
So we're not gonna take Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna
take too much. Of your time. We know that AI
generated music is definitely on the rise. There are now
radio stations dedicated to all AI music. There are AI DJs,
(45:26):
AI podcasts, you name it.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
AI is here to stay.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Unfortunate, unfortunate for some, I'm not going to say that
it's an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It gives an ability to those.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Who can't create somewhat of a lead way to create now,
so you know, kudos for those people. But what do
you think listeners risk losing if music becomes less human?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Well, you know, I'm really not that worried about AI.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Honestly, as long as there's means on the planet, there
will always be humanity in music.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
I I mean.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
People are always going to need to connect with other people. Uh,
you know, our bodies and our minds suffer when we're
not connected with people. So it's it's our natural and
a I can I think be a part of people's lives.
But uh, you know, it can't be your only connection
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to other people, but it can that I'm sure there
will be a place for it in many people's lives.
I mean, I I google things. Anyone who googles things
already uses the AI, right, I just don't use AI
too much to write my songs, but I'm sure there's
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ways that I do that.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I'm not totally aware of. The thing is AI came
from humans, right, computer programmers created.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
AI's it's a baby of the people, the whole community,
the companies that may it. So there is already a
human touch to it, a particular human touch of those
who created it. And I don't know how it affects
people and how it moves the world. Is it's a result,
(47:25):
and it's a part of the interweb of of lefe itself,
I think.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
But what we'll see, right, right, we'll see what happens. Yes, indeed,
we will see what will happen. And finally, for artists
who feel pressure to follow trends instead of their creative instincts,
what would you tell them about trusting the discovery process?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Oh, well, you already said it yourself. I mean that's good,
that's good advice to trust the discs every process. Yeah,
I mean, like.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
It's it is very very easy to second guess yourself
with anything. But at the same time, some people find
you know, so some people find it hard to question themselves.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
And and and there are.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Very sure of themselves and and might need to be
less for of themselves sometimes a little bit of questioning.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
I don't know. I think that art is a conversation
with with.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
The universe, right and not everything we say is is
going to be a perfect and just that like you know,
you spoke briefly on perfectionism earlier, perfect perfection is an interesting.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Concept.
Speaker 7 (48:53):
I can't even think of what would be right a
single pearl even that, what is a single pearl?
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Perfect? Four?
Speaker 7 (49:02):
Can I use it to hammer a nail? I don't
think so can be can't be perfect?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Can it? It can't hammer a nail? And so I don't.
I don't know. It's nice. It's a blessing to create
anything at all?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Absolutely man, Well, John, where can our listeners con it
with you? On the internet and champion out more music?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah? I mean I got on streaming platforms and on
bands camp.
Speaker 7 (49:31):
I've got locked lots of songs, and I'm on Instagram
that if you, if you'd like to follow me, sometimes
I post things. I used to post more live videos
of me playing, but just have lately spend less effort
in doing that, more effort just producing it.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
But my Instagram is John Terrris Junior, j O H
N K A I R I S j R. And
yeah you can. You can even email me if you want.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
To say hi, might email by John Daris Junior at
gmail dot com. But yeah, you know, my music is
out there, and if you like listening to it.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And I've done something.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Good deed indeed and listeners. Just in case you need
those links, no worries, my friends. I will have it
in the description of this episode and in the show notes.
So all you guys have to do is just click
those links all right. From songwriting to spiritual discovery, from
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reminded us that music is not just something you produce.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
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Speaker 3 (50:48):
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It was a pleasure. Hey, thank you for your timing
for having me absolutely man, take care all.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Right, Bye Deddi, Bye, peace to all.
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So please join me, Insane.
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Welcome friend to John Tyris.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hey, welcome to the show. Hello, Hello, thank you for
having me. Absolutely. How's it going.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
It's gone well, yeah, it's a nice evening. I'm in Philadelphia.
We got some snow yesterday. It's the slushy snow. It
just gets kind of kind of a nasty, swampy wet.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know. Yeah. Yeah, so well, first, welcome to the show, John.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I was watching the news yesterday and just I'm
from the South and that's where I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Currently at now. On the news.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, but yesterday on the news, man, just all the
blizzards that are happening like the New England North North
Eastern area. Have you guys experienced any blizzard or is
it just the slushy snow?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Oh? Man, I mean we got like a foot yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
I just saw melting really quickly, so I was just
like wet all over the city, you know. Yeah, this
one wasn't as bad as the one that we got
earlier in January that was rock solid ice for like
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
This one has not not being quite so fearsome and scary.
Yeah yeah, yeah, January was it was.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was bad, but not as bad as it was.
I went through one in the nineties. I was a kid,
but we didn't have power for like six weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Man, I was in Jackson, Mississippi at the time. The
only thing that was good about it school was counseling.
But that also but that also meant we had to
go to school in the song, which slept. But hey,
no school in the winter, Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I guess that's not bad. Yeah, as long as you got.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Something to do and you don't drive your your fellow
family members up at Tria, fine yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And then two it was the nineties, so we were
not yet digitized, so you know, we could actually use
our imaginations back then and not be like, oh my
my iPads. Did you know my Internet's not working? But
other than that, you must see yeah, oh go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, you must feel a little older than me.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I was born in ninety three, so you know, and
I never had a snowstorm that put me out for
like six weeks in Delaware, and you know, but there
was there was maybe a snowstorm that put out our
power for like.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
A week I think when I was a kid a
week or two. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
We did have board games and we had candles always
like candle in the winter if you got power on
her off.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, yeh see, that's what I'm talking about, board games
and candles. You can't beat that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, can
I beat it? Well, John Man, Before we just really
dive into everything concerning John the world of John you
know what's been on your heart and mind lately as
an artist who views songwriting more as discovery than construction.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Oh well, right now I'm in the discovery act. I'm
working on the next album, well, the next album after
this is basically done. Just working on my buddy to
say yes for album art so I'm gonna have other
one after Magic Flag called Villain that's going to be
out hopefully early March, just because it has a very
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early March vibe.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To the music. And so I'm working on the album.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
After that one, which I believe is going to be
called Cavalcade.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And what I'm doing in.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
That process that is a discovery act, is figuring out
how the songs are going to grow and develop from
the core structure that they begin at, which is a.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Companiment instrument plus my voice.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
So I'm practicing the songs and I can play them
all solo.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So now it's the act of seeing, oh, how do
how do we want to build this up? What ornamentation
do we want to put in there? And I do that.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
By I often ask, or lately especially I've been asking
friends to contribute stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Jay medow on, come on, now, that's not how you do.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
It is one of the first, like biggest collaborations that
I've done since releasing solo music, and then besides the collapse,
figuring out what other instruments I want to put on it,
the saxophone, a banjo, ukulele, guitar, piano, mixing and matching
all of.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Those right, right, right, man, you release music at a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Quick rapid pace.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm on the grind and you have to Yeah, you're
on a grind definitely, and you know you have to
push and market and promote all of these projects. So
do you allow yourself time to sit with it before you.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Move on to the next thing.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I sit with it enough, man, I mean sometimes maybe
sometimes I go I listened to an earlier song and
I play it and I'm like, well, I could have
done that differently, But that's okay.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The song is out in the world, and if someone
else wants to cover it, they can.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I think I've got a lot of songs that are
coverable material, And plus it's a cover for me. Every
time I play it live, I'm playing a song with
someone else wrote a while ago that happens to be
in the same body that I'm living in right now,
So it feels like a recreation every time I do it.
Though there are some that I played regularly that you know,
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have been a part of me for a while, or
core repertoire. Right, But yeah, I released yeah twelve albums
over the past few years, like one.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hundred and twenty hundred and thirty songs. Yeah, you're working
very fast.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Is there are Is there an end goal here or
a purpose of the plethora of music?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Well, the purpose is that that is my purpose to
write music. It's something that I do that I have
an education at. And I've I've always been drawn too.
So I'm a I'm a theist, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
A God believing man, and I.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Think that since that's what I'm drawn to, I've pretty
good hunch that that's what I'm meant.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
To do, absolutely, man, and I believe that too. You're
using a gift that was given to you by God,
and why not use it? You don't use it, you
lose it yet?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, so you mentioned you know you're educated in you know,
in the music room. I would I would guess music theory.
Yeah you started, Yeah, you started with piano basics as
a child, stepped away and then returned to a more
technical approaching college. What was going on in that gap
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of time between childhood and you know, college musically for you?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Here you're interviewing me, You're asking what's the gap in
my career?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
What is the gap employment? I wasn't working. Explain this
gap in your resume? No, I'm kidding just the time
I wasn't working.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Sure, no, man, I know, I wanted to be a
musician when I was a kid, but I just didn't
pursued vocationally. So I was under the impression that I
was going to be a doctor or a lawyer, and
then I was going to do music.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
On the side.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
And then at a certain point I decided I didn't
want to just do music on the side.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I wanted to pursue it as a primary vocation.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Now, even after I made that decision, there are certain
there are many points where music hasn't been my primary
for primary vocation.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
One of those points is still today.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I make the bulk of my money working as a mover,
and I hardly make any money at all doing music.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I make it a little bit doing.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Teaching a choir, a community choir for seniors in Philadelphia,
and I did teach music for two and a half years,
So that was more of you know, making a financial
living for myself with music. But yeah, you know, I
had some meandering this in my life, some uh, just
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the moments trying to figure out where I fit in right,
like a lot of people. So I'm in my early
thirties now, and I feel, you know, pretty uh, I
guess a stable and uh I've got a little more
stapaicility at least in my in my mind and spirit
I feel in this moment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Then I've had it a minute. But you know, sometimes
you do need to wander. You do need to wander.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Mm hmmm yeah, the wonder, Yeah yeah, yeah, and oh
yeah yeah, wonder in wonder. You know, you kind of
wander into wondering and wandering into wondering.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
If if you get my yeah, and that's a cool
that's a cool title.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Right, Hey, man, you got you We're right now, You're
gonna get at the next record you need.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Look at that. Man, your collaborative spirit is rubbing off
on me. I love that.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I love of the people making making songless really yeah,
one of my biggest stories.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So I would assume that there is a advantage of
being like educationally trained in music. I used to be
an artist back in the day. And you're right, I
am a little bit older than you, ten years approximately.
I was born in eighty three, so I'm so I'm
forty two. Wow, it's my first time saying on No Player.
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But anyway, yes, prize forty two. But anyway, Uh, when
producers were making beats, you know, I was given like
time signatures and things of that nature, reading notes and
it's like, dude, it's not that serious, And say, what
do you mean it is that serious? I say, once
you understand what you're actually doing, you know the highest
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and lows the tones to beat per measure. Once you
understand those kinds of things from theory, you know, the
world is almost endless when you can read and write music.
So for you, did you find being educated in music
and advantage for you?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah? Yeah, it opened up a whole new world. Now.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I was writing music before I got a proper education
in it because I went to college and I went
to college for political science and I actually did house shows.
And while I was in college and was making music,
and I had a basic understanding of theory because I
played a little bit of piano and a little bit
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of guitar, and I could read music from the saxophone.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But I didn't have a proper like conservatory education until.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I went back to school and got a master's in
music composition from Temple.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And that was revelatory for me, and it really it
helped me see.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Songs from many different perspectives.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That that's helpful, and I love the process of writing
down the notes on paper.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You've gone from pump bands like Static X to electronic
aliases to andy folk. Do you see your journey as
reinventing yourself or more of a natural evolution?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Oh? Yeah, it's a fun question. I think it's I
think it would have to be both. You know, when
we uh uh, we.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
We have to reinvent ourselves, when we mature, when we age,
or when we change at all, there's a there's a
destruction of the younger self. It's like a destruction and
an assimilation of the younger self every time we change
or go through a new phase.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
And that is natural. Mm hmm. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
It's natural to go through phases, for the old self
to die and for a new self to be born.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
That is true. That is true.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So in the vein of birth, I guess you could
say the creation of Come on, now, that's not how
you do it.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
We want to talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
You describe the vocal dynamic as a disciplarian deity versus
earnest desperation.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I think that's a powerful concept.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Can you dive a bit deeper into what that means
for our listener.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, so.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
For me, the song in itself paints the picture. And
this is just my vision as I have it. What
I find great about songs, and anyone can recognize this
is that you know, a lot of times you don't
even hear all the lyrics, right, so you kind of
interpret what words you hear and what you pick out,
and you create a narrative from it, a narrative that.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Speaks to you and to your experience. So I wrote
the song and I.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Played it many many times, or the song was written
through me, so I know the lyrics well. And the
vision that I get is someone who is struggling against
difficult circumstances, and those circumstances are pollution, incoming, quality, poverty,
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the grit of working in this da and age in
this economy, and the voice in their head. You know,
that's the world and the voice and the world is
propelling forward and forward, and you have no choice to
move through but to move through it despite the consistent,
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sometimes physically taxing.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Often physically taxing challenges the voice in your head, uh is,
But perhaps in the context of this song, not comforting
but stern and demanding, saying, come on.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Now, that's not how you do it.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And that that that I find a lot of humor.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Enjoy that because sometimes that is the voice. It is.
It is a it is a disciplinarian.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
And whether or not that voice is something that we
give space to, that's for each of us to decide.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Absolutely, absolutely so, John, I have a confession.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I like Colt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I like Colts, and I would I would join a cult,
you know, until you know they passed a kool aid around.
That's where I draw the line. That's where I draw
the line I from. Okay, yeah, so I'm just being funny.
But you created the first Unitarian Church of Philadelphia and for.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
For people saying, oh, that's a cult, you know. No,
like I said, I'm just joking, but it's for teaching. Yeah, yeah,
sometimes the cult.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, and Joan is kind of like a cult name,
you know, John, But yeah, but uh, you know this.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Church is for teaching people how to scene with others.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
No, no, that's not that's not entirely what it's about.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So yeah, yeah for me to no, no, no, it
was the church. The church isn't about that, like all
of churches, or.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
At least a lot of Christian churches specifically, but also
synagogues at least the the couple that I've been to
those communities singing, I've actually never been to a mosque,
but I've been to many Christian church which is Unitarian
universalism is a.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Christian fact that.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Evolved out of two a Christian sex universalists who believed
that everyone was destined for heaven and Unitarians who believed
in one God and decided to not honor the trinity
so much. But we're more fan of the oneness of God,
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and they merged at a certain point.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It is like the Senate. A Unitarian Universalism as it
exists today.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Is a very progressive community of believers, believers in many
different things, but guided by a series of principles that
involve the interdependence of life, the belief in religious and
secular pluralism, seeking the divine from many paths, as well
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as honoring the inherent worth and dignity of every human
being and for me, all life.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That is how the church exists. Now.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
We just have in Philadelphia, at the first Sanitarian Church
in Center City, a really great music program led by
the brilliant John D.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Hedges, who leads our program with.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Gospel songs, classic like classical choral stuff in.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The Latin or Italian or French.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
We've got a great rock band with a rotating group
of volunteers, right, and we do songs from classic rock
era into the modern era. It's just a great music
program that kind of showcases what the church is all about,
which is pluralism.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Everyone's got something to offer and we're alling in together.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yes, indeed, I do have to create myself. I said
that you created, and what I meant it to say.
What I meant to say was that you credit it.
So a slight credited Yeah, yeah, slight differences in words
and ands why I wrote the bad jokes.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But we'll move along.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
No, I've not created any church. No, I'm a I'm
a member of the church. And you know what's what's
great about this community is my specific faith belief as
a member of this church community are.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Different than everyone else. Everyone else has different faith beliefs.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
There is no really overarching doctrinal though the church is
guided by principles and also politics that is consistently very progressive.
Right like the early days, the early days of the church,
they were one of the loudest voices for abolition here
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in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
So they go away. Hmm okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I
I'm familiar with Unitarian just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You mentioned that executing music for the sake of God
and the universe.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
How does that perspective influence your artistic discipline? All right?
You know what? Better?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yet, does that create some greater sense of responsibility when
it comes to like the subject matter or the spiritual
part of me?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
It definitely creates a sense of responsibility.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I don't know how it guides subjects matter, though I do.
I do speak of God frequently in my songs, in
the lyrics. There's references in the divine all over the place.
But simply that's because is what that's what flows through me.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
You know. They call it a stream of consciousness because.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
It's literally a river, a river that flows through our minds,
as well as the minds of all conscious creatures and
probably the the corporeal and spiritual bodies of many different creatures.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Right. So, when you pull from stream of.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Consciousness, which is a way that I essentially write though
a narrative and a scene often comes from that. I
hope and I pray that it is an expression of
the divine or a communion of the divine. I'm simply
trying to get as close to God as possible. Not
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myself becoming God, but I want to become close to God.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The ego that it, that is that is me is.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Seeking just some some influence from the divine. And so
the songs that I write, I think of it as
just my small, my small offering to the world saying,
you know, I looked within and I looked without, and
this is what I found, and I hope that you
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find something in there as well.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So it's just it's a simple responsibility to do my best.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I don't know about the subjects matter, but yeah, I
think that faith ascribes the responsibility to.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Do our best, absolutely man, absolutely well, especially if like
all things, all people in the inn or you know,
led to the divine, uh, which I believe is is
you know, somewhat true. And music is a large catalyst
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of how we form our opinions sometimes and how we
you know, perceive emotions because you know, you listen to
a song like, hey, this is a soundtrack to my life.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You know this is.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Happening right now, and you and you and the emotion
comes from the artist who has experienced that or walk
that walker, you know, writing a song about someone he knows,
you know, or watching a movie.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
That's that's how me and my bandmates do.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
We used to watch a movie and try to write
songs to the movie.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Because we know we were out of ideas.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I was pretty much like the action you know, jumping
out of windows rescuing damsels, and he was, you know,
the boring type. So we would have to just pick
uh movies to write to. But I said to say
that subject matter is an important.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Thing in music because you have music.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Like Michael Jackson's once said, you know, there's mantras in music,
and mantras can control not to sound witchy, but you
know you can you can put a spell on yourself
because there's power and words. So I think subject matter
is important if you're such a fore divine. But in
the same token, emptiness can lead to the fulfillment from God,
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you know, being in the best, but can lead to
one needing God. But I've also seen that destroy people.
To what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
So, yeah, mantras are are definitely important.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I feel like the mantra comes to me and sometimes, Yeah,
a lot of my songs do end with a mantra,
with a repeated phrase, and it simply seems like the
best thing to.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Do to end to the song.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
It's like there's a phrase that we come to and
like that's it, and I keep repeating it. You know,
there's great power and repetition. Sometimes the words can stop
meaning the things, right. That's my there's a part of
my brain that's resistant to the idea that these acts meaning.
If a word or a phrase in mantra can influence ourselves.
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The words definitely do have meaning in themselves, but there's
also additional meaning created.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
With the way that we say the words.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
It's not what you say, it's how you say it
and the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Meaning and the spirit behind it. I don't know what
that is.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
And then, as far as your thought on emptiness, get
emptiness is.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Something that I think about, a place to get to
that can be nice.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I mean, there's always something moving through us, right that
sometimes things are stale and need to be emptied.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And that's part of.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
My impulse to put songs out and not hold on
to them too long. I like to put them out
when they feel fresh. I empty my cup and and
then my cup is ready to be filled with new ideas.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And I'm so.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I try not to labor it too much, to give
the song as is, you know, enough love so that
they can stand.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
On their own. I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I really like that, especially, you know the cup analogy.
What is your favorite sound from Come On Down? That's
not how you do it?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh? My favorite sound in the song?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Oh, it's definitely my roommate's voice, Javante, because he is
not on any other things, and I'm just I was
really happy to get him on there.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And he does a lot of cool things with his voice.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
I mean, the first time his voice comes in with
this nice little ooh falsetto, and also.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
The da da dados that he does in unison with
me at the end of the song. There's there a
couple of great moments. Nice.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So you've added banjo, ukulele, guitar, since and vocals into
your tool kit. Which of those instruments do you feel
most connected to your emotional dispission right now?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Oh? Well, I I it's very it's very difficult having.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
When I got five different instruments that are my main instruments,
right Piano, guitar, ukulele, dan jo, and saxophone. So that's
difficult because I want to I want to show all
the instruments love, and you know those instruments, They instruments.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Like to be played. They don't like to be left alone. Though.
I have an old.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Guitar that's sat on the wall of my little home studio,
an older acoustic that I don't use anymore. I just
got two guitars and I just played my newer one
my tailor, and my older court sits on the wall,
and you know, she doesn't get played, but that's where
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she sits.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
That's fine. I think she's cool with it.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
As far as I mean in this moment, I'm really
I'm enjoying the piano in a particular way.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
The album that I'm working on, Cavalcade.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Has a lot of songs that are ukulele because I
was having a moment where I was waking up in
the middle of the night and just up for a
few hours, and the only instrument that I could play
at you know, two or three am without waking my
roommate was the ukulele. So I was writing songs really late.
So there's a lot of ukulele songs on the album
after the next one, and I'm building up these tracks.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I'm basically just doing ukulele and then some piano on
top of that.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
And I'm really enjoying writing the piano parts to the
ukulele foundation that I'm creating. So yeah, my piano I love.
It's a stamic, upright piano that I bought off Craig's
list nice for like six hundred bucks, great price, and
it's from eighty five. I think, wow, and it just
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as it is a really strong, really strong sound.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
This is it.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
H h h.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
M hmm.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
This is it with the soft pedal on right, So
the soft pedal is is quite lovely.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That all.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Here's the full sound, not much different, not much different.
It's a really pretty instrument.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I just love it when artists break out in song
or instruments and live interviews.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, it is all right, My listeners want to check
out some music and we have it queued up. It's
called come on now, that's not how you do it,
and then we'll be right back to put John in
our traditional hot seat to see if he wants to
perform for us. You know, he could play an instrument,
he could sing. He could rap, he could tell us
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a story, a joke, inspirations, some advice, or he could
do nothing at all. That is cool as well, but
for right now here it is. Come on now, that's
not how it's done. Stay tuned, Cam's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Get away now.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
The serpents tide tight around your ankles and set in
poisoned pulses. The more you struggle, Come on now, that's
not how you do it. You gotta rip through it.
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Take it off now. Swimming in the sewage, you gotta
key moving bearing fists and rocks, fucking with the hair clocks,
something up the stocks with excisement, losing steam on the
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crag and mountain gleam, and the rocks aren't what they seem.
If you take a closer. The pages me in peace,
and I don't know how to read. I'll offer you
a bean if you teach me how to cook, darling,
please my angel page. Come live the dream out of
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your cobweb. Crook Lovers seek an enchanted beam that leaves
a green path underfoot. Come on, now, that's not how
you do it. You gotta rip through it. Take it
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off now. Swiming in the sewage, you gotta cave moving
bearing fists and rocks stucking with there fox something up
the stocks, who.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Come on?
Speaker 10 (37:58):
Now, that's how you do it. You gotta rip through it,
take it off now, swimming in the sewage. You gotta
keep moving, bearing fists and rocks stucking with their clocks.
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Something off the stocks with excitment dot dotto excisement. Yeah,
with excisement dot ato excisement. Yeah, with excitment dot at
(38:48):
of excisement. Yeah, with excitment, not atto excitment.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
All right, all right, welcome back again.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That was come on. Now, that's not how it's done
by John Tiris. Some real beautiful.
Speaker 9 (39:12):
Oohs and ahs, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Mixture of there's a lot of sounds, but if you like,
close your eyes and haun in on one particular one
that you like. I know it's a little hard, but
gotta really really just focus on one sound that's really
driving it, and then you play it again, listen to
(39:38):
the next sound, play it again, and listen to the
next sound, and keep going until you fully embody the
melodies and everything that's happening all at once in this track.
So try that, Yeah, try that after the show, right,
the show, and let us know your thoughts as well.
I would love to hear them all right, the spring
(40:00):
going back. Hey, hey, welcome back. You're back live with
us and in our hearts.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Are you going to perform for us? That's what I
was thinking of. If if you're down to hear a
song at a live one, if you want, absolutely we'll
love to hear it. All right. So I got I
tested the sound earlier. I got AirPods pro in. I
(40:29):
got my guitar here, and I'm gonna singing something. I
think it'll I think it will sound all right coming through.
All right, all right, you can hear this guitar a
little bit faintly, all right, cool. The guitar will be
quieter than my voice. That'll be fun. Here we go.
Speaker 8 (40:47):
H I miss you, but I know it's me who's
(41:15):
always pulling away. I can't grow if I keep casting
myself in the shade a home Kenndly, live so long
on the faith.
Speaker 11 (41:32):
Oh that's forever, pever in your arms. Oh, I park
my car, O goden back of them barn where you are.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
Laying in the hay day.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Let's pray one send her hole. I'll sheathe my blade
ells and may killed many men up till today on
made on day, to the fire merge unscathed. Cast my
(42:26):
dane upon the fool who lives for a game.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
May he fall. I kiss you.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
Like you're the only one I've ever known, But we
both know how I've.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
Betrayed you, lied and dismayed you. I'm lucky you would
take me back, and I won't run if I could
only stick to the sack.
Speaker 12 (43:24):
Oh, that's forever, forever in your arms. Oh our parkner,
car ou babum, back.
Speaker 9 (43:42):
Of them barn where you are playin' in the hay, Babe.
Let's pray once and for all. I'll save my blade
ells in make killed many a man up till to day,
(44:08):
on the on day, and to the fire merge unscathed.
He knows, alcol if I'm gone before she wake. Goodness
sake is that the mist upon the lake gathered in
(44:32):
the sun as.
Speaker 8 (44:34):
The earth resumes it shake.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Fade. Let's pray you.
Speaker 8 (44:41):
And send for all the silent spray. He cracked the case,
bounced the ball upon my face.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
There's that.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Wow, thank you so much, man. Yes, I enjoyed it.
So we're not gonna take Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna
take too much. Of your time. We know that AI
generated music is definitely on the rise. There are now
radio stations dedicated to all AI music. There are AI DJs,
(45:26):
AI podcasts, you name it.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
AI is here to stay.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Unfortunate, unfortunate for some, I'm not going to say that
it's an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It gives an ability to those.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Who can't create somewhat of a lead way to create now,
so you know, kudos for those people. But what do
you think listeners risk losing if music becomes less human?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Well, you know, I'm really not that worried about AI.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Honestly, as long as there's means on the planet, there
will always be humanity in music.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
I I mean.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
People are always going to need to connect with other people. Uh,
you know, our bodies and our minds suffer when we're
not connected with people. So it's it's our natural and
a I can I think be a part of people's lives.
But uh, you know, it can't be your only connection
(46:31):
to other people, but it can that I'm sure there
will be a place for it in many people's lives.
I mean, I I google things. Anyone who googles things
already uses the AI, right, I just don't use AI
too much to write my songs, but I'm sure there's
(46:52):
ways that I do that.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I'm not totally aware of. The thing is AI came
from humans, right, computer programmers created.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
AI's it's a baby of the people, the whole community,
the companies that may it. So there is already a
human touch to it, a particular human touch of those
who created it. And I don't know how it affects
people and how it moves the world. Is it's a result,
(47:25):
and it's a part of the interweb of of lefe itself,
I think.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
But what we'll see, right, right, we'll see what happens. Yes, indeed,
we will see what will happen. And finally, for artists
who feel pressure to follow trends instead of their creative instincts,
what would you tell them about trusting the discovery process?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Oh, well, you already said it yourself. I mean that's good,
that's good advice to trust the discs every process. Yeah,
I mean, like.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
It's it is very very easy to second guess yourself
with anything. But at the same time, some people find
you know, so some people find it hard to question themselves.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
And and and there are.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Very sure of themselves and and might need to be
less for of themselves sometimes a little bit of questioning.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
I don't know. I think that art is a conversation
with with.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
The universe, right and not everything we say is is
going to be a perfect and just that like you know,
you spoke briefly on perfectionism earlier, perfect perfection is an interesting.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Concept.
Speaker 7 (48:53):
I can't even think of what would be right a
single pearl even that, what is a single pearl?
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Perfect? Four?
Speaker 7 (49:02):
Can I use it to hammer a nail? I don't
think so can be can't be perfect?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Can it? It can't hammer a nail? And so I don't.
I don't know. It's nice. It's a blessing to create
anything at all?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Absolutely man, Well, John, where can our listeners con it
with you? On the internet and champion out more music?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah? I mean I got on streaming platforms and on
bands camp.
Speaker 7 (49:31):
I've got locked lots of songs, and I'm on Instagram
that if you, if you'd like to follow me, sometimes
I post things. I used to post more live videos
of me playing, but just have lately spend less effort
in doing that, more effort just producing it.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
But my Instagram is John Terrris Junior, j O H
N K A I R I S j R. And
yeah you can. You can even email me if you want.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
To say hi, might email by John Daris Junior at
gmail dot com. But yeah, you know, my music is
out there, and if you like listening to it.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And I've done something.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Good deed indeed and listeners. Just in case you need
those links, no worries, my friends. I will have it
in the description of this episode and in the show notes.
So all you guys have to do is just click
those links all right. From songwriting to spiritual discovery, from
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harmony to collaboration to the humanity of real instruments, tonight
reminded us that music is not just something you produce.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
It's something that you uncover or discover.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Be sure to screen Magic Flag and the duet Come
on now, that's not how you do it on all
major platforms, and follow John Carris for more authentic, soul
centered And if this episode resonated with you, subscribe to
Vigilantes Radio Live, share it with the fellow music lover,
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revivable for your mind, body, and spirit. Thank you so much, John,
It was a pleasure. Hey, thank you for your timing
for having me absolutely man, take care all.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Right, Bye Deddi, Bye, peace to all.
Speaker 13 (51:30):
My name is Deni and I am the host of
Vigilantes Radio Live. I think that.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
We are beyond est.
Speaker 13 (51:40):
You're asking cool questions and getting cool responses. I think
that we are here as creatives to provide an example
that you can do things different outside of expectations, because
some of us simply we're not going to the club,
(52:01):
but there is perhaps a door, window or backgate.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Then we can leave a clue for.
Speaker 10 (52:08):
You to get into.
Speaker 13 (52:10):
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try and get it right. You're suing your dreams and
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Come on, now, that's not how you do it.
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