The Linwood Jackson, Jr. Interview.

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Lynn Wood Jackson Junior is an author, poet, and Bible

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philosopher whose work centers on personal personal devotion, self discipline,
and interpreting the Bible as a practical philosophy for inner transformation.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It's writing blends.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Spirituality, self help, poetry, and philosophical inquiry, guiding readers toward
a deeper devotional life. From perfecting and reforming personal Religion
to his poetry collection Growth and his upcoming work Becoming,
lynn Wood challenges readers to examine the self, discipline, the heart,

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and pursue wisdom with sincerity. So please join me in
saying welcome friend to Lynnwood Jackson Junior.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Hey, Hey, hey, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hey, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Thank you absolutely man, absolutely man.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
We are excited to have you a part of.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Our program here tonight.

Speaker 8 (05:45):
Man.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
So how's it going?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm good? And your introduction about a conversation and a dialogue,
whether it is with self or through writing, being a
source of a challenge for self is a brilliant to hear.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I loved it, absolutely, man. It was my pleasure. It
was definitely my pleasure.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
All right, So man again, welcome to this show.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Before we just really kick off everything, what's been on
your heart and mind lately?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Love? Honestly, it's been love. Not even gonna lie to you,
it's been loved. Looking out at what we have going
on in society, whether it is public society or the
private personal society of self love has been on my mind.
Self love has been on my mind. And the benevolent
empathy that we can give to one another through a

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form of conscious self sacrifice, that has been on my mind.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Now, I always got to ask, you know, some time,
well quite frequently, I won't say as of now, but.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Just growing up as.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
A young man, I have to ask, you know, my potential.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Partners what is their idea of love? Because we all
grow up with a different perspective of what love is,
how to give it, how to receive it, and what
it feels.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
So, Man, in.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Your experience with the four letter word, the action word,
what is love?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
To you?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I love answering this question. And to me, love is
not an emotion. You know, we falsely associate love with emotion.
Now that's a that's a story book that we have
been trained to believe in when we whatever what sex
we are, male or female, man, woman, we confuse love

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with what we are known and taught traditionally, so we
think that the other half of us thinks like we do,
and if we don't, we get our ideas from what's
going on out there. But love has nothing to do
with emotions. But love is not an emotion. Love is
actually a state of mind. So if we can actually

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have a state of mind that is just beyond the
word itself. And again it goes back to a self sacrificing, benevolent,
conscious level of compassion, that in and of itself is
the definition of love. Because there's no emotion with that.
There's no emotion with that, there is no I need

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to get something back from that, there's nothing you need
to forcefully reciprocate to me with that. There is only
I am doing only because consciously it is not going
to impact neither you nor I negatively, but only bring
a positive form of energy and outlook through and through.

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So to me, love is not there's no emotion tied
to it. The emotion will come later, feeling will come later.
Initially an overall there's no emotion. It is a state
of mind, and it is a state of being when
one is loving, when one loves, when one has love,
when one is giving love, and one is founded in love,

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when one is over love, when one is sick to
the point of love positive way, and even in a
negative way. It's all about being in a state of mind,
a state of just being. Is what I see love
as in my experience, my human, personal and devotional experience,

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in this living experience, it's a state of mind.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Wow, okay, okay, So Lynn would that is my first
time ever hearing that love is a state of mind.
Maybe I've been doing it wrong myself.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
Can you explain that? Can you explain that further? Like
state of mind?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, love is a state of mind only because one
cannot love until they love themselves. And in order to
love self, we have to be able to know that
there is ugliness within us. And that's not easy to comprehend.
Despite how wonderful we may think we are, despite how
much growth we think we need, despite how distasteful we

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believe we are, there is a point where the site,
the actual sight of self, when it lands in the
kind of reflection that's needed to grow up out of
that state of the discuss the natural disgust, because all
of us, if we have to look at ourselves, if
we have to go into self, we will see ugliness.

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We are born this way. This is our trait. No
one's walking around internally sexy. We are born ugly. And
everything that goes on outside of us is a society,
whether it is amplified by society, whether it is amplified
by family, whether it is amplified by how we were
treated as children, and then we grow up to now

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become that and develop certain personality traits that distort our
reality to make us believe we are more than we are.
The ugliness is always covered. When we can get down
to see what that ugliness actually is, well, then that's
when the source of love actually dawns, because we are
seeing ugliness in us to the point where we are

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going to be able to be patient to extend levels
of extense with others who have not yet had the
chance to see the ugliness that they have within, or
with others who have seen that ugliness but don't know
how to handle it themselves. It becomes a state of mind.
It only becomes a state of mind when we are
able to transfer our experience to someone else's, and that

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transference of experience can only take place when once we
are able to transfer out of our own living experience
to look at ourselves, not as ourselves, us as self,
and in that instant we're able to see ourselves apart
from ourselves, then gravitate towards an appreciation towards ourselves, And

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so now our state of mind, our being is more
informed as to the character of self, as to the
personality of self, as to the likes, the dislikes, the
what self is, the what self is not to the
point them that then once that is able to form,
we can take that out and give that to another.

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So we're now we're not driven by emotion when we
see another, when we see the physical or when we
hear the voice of another, or when whatever's connecting us
to someone else where. We are not going to be
driven by anything that is stuck to this body that
enhances the stimulation for us to get attracted to them.

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We're gonna actually be drawn to them intellectually and spiritually.
We're going to be drawn to them in such an
intellectual and spiritual way that their character and their personality
will be able to shine forth to us in ways
that will allow us to know whether or not this
is the person we should actually be wasting energy on
or time on to love and in different ways and

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in different context and situations for which that matters. So
it becomes a state of being when once we can
transfer ourselves out of ourselves to then get back into
ourselves to then understand what someone else may be going through,
to keep that experience aligned and our emotions in check,
so that when we do have this four letter word

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come up into our heart and mind, love. We're not
driven by impulse, we're not driven by sensuality, We're not
driven by false chemistry. We're actually driven by an intellectual
and spiritual behavior that is first enacted from within us.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
Hmm, all right. I love that.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
And you mentioned you mentioned how we.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Are born ugly. I hear a lot of people don't
think so. They think we're born innocent and.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Just full of all the characteristics of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
And I used to think the same way. But you know,
as I have grown as a Christian, understand that you know,
we do have a sin nature because of you know,
how sinner into into the world. So and for the
listeners out there, if you if you've never encountered a

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hungry baby, and then you wouldn't probably understand what you
probably wouldn't stand some of the ugliness that comes with
a hungry baby. They will manipulate you, gas like you
and straight up arsistic, and it's like, where'd you get
that from?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Already born?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
It don't got a tea. Yeah, literally, you don't have
to teach them this. You don't have it. You don't
have to teach a child how to lie.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's all innate in us.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
This is our general form. That's again part of the
distortion of love. Whether the first part is society, but
the second distortion of love comes from religion and comes
from the heroes of religion, because religion really in and
of itself, is a matrix that has some sort of

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conglomerate theological framework behind it that once you're in it,
you have to stick to it. And even if you
are in it and don't stick to it, the fabric
of the nature of what that is, it's gonna stick
to you even if you're saying that you're out of it,
and the distortion lingers. So in that distortion kind of

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kills what we see in basic reality, like for example,
a child, you know, have to teach them how to
lie because it's natural. But all of that carries over
and just again falls right back down to love, that
distortion that we in our that we carry within our
own self. That which is again why I always say

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love is a state of mind, a state of mind,
and a state of being, because once you get the
societal aspect of love into our personal growth, and once
you get the religious aspect of love into our personal growth,
now we're walking around with some image of an invisible
deity that we've never seen except drawn by some other persons,

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and you know, promoligated and promoted and amplified through religious
dogma from generation to generation to generation. Which is why
I like to, which is why I also like to,
when it comes to Scripture, encourage the personal reading and
the personal studying of it, because when we do, we

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will realize that the deity that we have attached to
whatever holy book we have is really kind of separate
from the reality of what's going on when we take
a glimpse into experiencing and living the actual words that
are there in the Bible and in Scripture.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
So Lynn Wood.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
When people encounter your work years from now, your poetry,
your philosophy, even your Bible step, what do you hope
they understand about all of your work?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
The first thing I would hope they understand is that
the person writing this is extremely broken. And as they
keep on reviewing my work, I would hope they understand
that the person reading this, although he is extremely broken,
he has unlocked some sort of understanding that one can

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find through going and reading what he's written or hearing
closely what he is saying. So I'm hoping that the
definition of brokenness is kind of flipped, you know, brokenness.
We see brokenness and we think fallen, we think separated,

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we think black sheep. But to be able to turn
the broken into the champion is something that is philosophically
a part of the Bible. If you go into the Psalms,
you will hear that God only responds to the broken,
to the contrite and spirit, and he will not refuse

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the tears of those who approach with a broken spirit.
We can read in other places, I would much rather
knowledge than sacrifice. We can read in other places, creating
me a clean heart and the renewer right spirit within
me everything from the Hebrew philosophical context minus the New

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Testament Greek context, but the original Hebrew context, which is
tied from Genesis to Malachi. It is about the champion
who is broken. The broken is the champion because the
champion is broken, champion of brokenness occurring through that brokenness
to the point where their recovery is their resurrection. So

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the resurrection of mind, the resurrection of self, the resurrection
of the personal devotional character, and the personal devotional character
is resurrected from out of the traditional religious dogmatic imposed
experience that resurrection only takes place through brokenness, and that

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brokenness can only take place through again, going back to
the ugliness, accepting the natural taint that we are because
we are no one on this planet. And I will
always believe, and I will always say, there is no
one on this planet walking around that is here that

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has anything good in them. This planet is not designed
for good, for good for good beings. This planet is
designed for beings that are generally flawed for the purpose
of understanding what that flaw is to transcend them. So
everyone that is born here on this planet, they will

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all be born with something wrong with them. And depending
on their journey. Their journey is going to trigger something
that they didn't know, but it was benign. They didn't know,
but it was benign within them. Their journey is going
to trigger it. They're going to have to overcome it.
Something else is gonna trigger that. They're going to have
to overcome it. Because this plant it the way that

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it's set up, it is not designed. And again I
always like to say that Bible philosophical context does not
teach of a deity overseeing this realm. What we have
in this realm is our human beings that have things
spirit within them going through an experience because they themselves

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are tragic. We are all tragic, we are all, but
that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to remain that way.
We have to overcome what we are in this human
body and this flesh that we have is based off
of stimulus that resorts right back to our nervous system,
in which our nervous system traps trauma, and the nervous

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system that traps the trauma. Beneath this nervous system is
a energy of spirit that has the desire of its own,
a character of its own, has a mind of its own,
has thoughts with its own. Meanwhile, our nervous system has
thoughts in the minds and the character and personality of
its own too. So we are conflicted.

Speaker 9 (22:07):
And that's our challenge, our challenge to overcome this brokenness,
to transcend it. And whoever reads my work, you know,
I'm hoping that they see in my work just that
that they can see the being trapped.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Within the humans, and the human struggling to overcome for
the purpose of that being's excellence to the point where
they themselves can be encouraged to take up the challenge themselves,
a challenge they know they should be doing, but they're not.
But if anything I could say it can inspire them, well,
then that's what I want them to remember, is the

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brokenness of one that inspired them to the point where
they can then accept the necessary brokenness that each and
every single one of us that are ever born has
to access, so that by accepting it they can then
spark in another person brokenness for triumphs. And then they
can spark brokenness for triumph and then they can spark

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brokenness for triumph and they can just keep going.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
M What is the correlation between your personal life and devotion?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
How do you approach that.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
The correlation is once your personal devotional character, which is
a character that is built through you taking the words
of scripture and putting them into practice. When you can
bring that into your daily life as best as you can,
and there will be failures, always will be failure. When

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you can take that and bring that into your daily
life and in a practical way to where you're allowing
what you have retained to correct you, to send you
right back to the scriptures to receive philosophical corrections so
that you can get right back into life an experiment
and triumph or fail to receive morpheed to go right

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back in the scripture. It's just the cycle, the cycle
of being able to learn and gravitate towards what one
is learning and then practically applies for the purpose of correction.
So in daily life it is correction, a constant correction
from what is personally retained and studied and experimented with

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as it pertains through the scripture, how it is interpreted,
how it is then carried out, and then how it
is corrected, the reflection of that and the recycling of
that experience in the daily lives for the purpose of
practical growth that is in essence, How I could say
that the two connect with the daily life and then

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the renewal that comes from the devotional well being. And
I think that goes back to what even in the
beginning with what you were saying about, you know, not
a renewal of mind and a conversation and an inner
dialogue that fits with renewal. I think the daily has
to be aligned with what is renewal and what is

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practical and what is reflective. And that to me, that
to me ties in how I myself, despite all of
my failures and flaws to do so, and yet despite
all of my understanding and correcting and recycling as such,
how they all work together to form, you know, just
a learning based living experience.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
What about discipline? Are you familiar with Philip Anthony Mitchell,
I am not.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
No.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So he's a megapee preacher out of Atlanta, Georgia, and
he was saying his life requires a certain amount of discipline.
You know, people will say he's spiritually gifted, and he said, well,
that comes with being spiritually disciplined. So what is your

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correlation with discipline? How does that show up in your
personal life and professional.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Life, well, this is personal and professional life in one word,
is empathy. So whatever we are retaining, whatever sort of
spirituality we have, it should ultimately lead back to empathy,
and if not leading back to empathy, it should lead
back to experiences that allow us to find ourselves in

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humbling situations to the point where we are then able
to develop empathy. So in both the personal and spiritual
or devotional context, in one word, empathy, I personally believe
that empathy is the highest, the highest form of love.

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And this is just me personally, because when it comes
to the ability to empathize with someone, we're doing more
than getting stepping into their shoes, which is what the
basic definition of empathy is or would be, is being
able to rationalize someone's experience from their own point of

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view or perspective. But empathy is a bit more than that,
because empathy has to do with short perspective, but also context.
It has to do with context, it has to do
with self, it has to do with personality, it has
to do with circumstance, and if empathy is involved, empathy
can solve a whole lot of problems, whether it is

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in personal or professional relationships, in workplace dynamics in the
education field and in the medical field. Empathy to me
and in my own experience, it plays out and has
allowed me to continue to learn what it means to

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be an intelligent young man, and an intelligent young man
that comes from diversity and how to be able to
handle diverse situations and diverse individuals because of the training
that empathy can give when placed not just in heart,

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but in mind and then ingrained through experience. So if
I had to answer, I would say empathy to me,
to me is the key because when we can actually
going back to the state of mind, state of being
that love is an intelligent form of love is empathy.
It's being able to rationalize the context, the circumstances, the perspective,

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the logic, and the reason for why someone has been
hate or acted in the way that they have or
why they have said or done the things that they
have to where we can then go back into our
journey and go through the files of our own self,
cleansing our own self to be able to connect with
them in a way that lets them know that they
are seen, felt, heard, understood. That that takes that takes

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some time. I'm not gonna lie that takes to me.
That's our life work. That's our life work as human
and spiritual beings.

Speaker 10 (29:31):
Yes, indeed, uh, you mentioned earlier about how God likes
to receive us, you know, with the countryrite heart and
open heart, with some level of brokenness, even if it's
complete brokenness.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
And I believe that as well.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I believe a self heart it is perfect soil for
the planning of new things.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And you get a self heart from being.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Broken from crying, you know, watering your your own heart
there allowing God to grow something and do something new,
So in your in your life, knowing that God prefers
us in a broken state where he can use us
because we're looking for answers, we're looking for healing, we're

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looking for understanding of why we're hurting.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Do you consider yourself whole?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Absolutely not, feel like no, I would be I would
be lyingest if I ever did, I to be honest,
I don't even think wholeness, wholeness can be caught in
this lifetime. And then if I could be honest again,
I don't even think wholeness is the point of this lifetime,

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I would I would say that the journey to wholeness
is what's more important I think of. You know, the
the Kingdom of God is like leven, leavening until it
is leven, that example, you know that that takes some
time until completion, and even then it is not completed
because what it leven then has to be broken and

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then consumed. So there's a finality to it. So for
us as beings living beings right now, our finality isn't
to be whole. Our finality is to be consumed. And again,
you know we can do that in different ways. But
going back to your example of how I want to

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be remembered, you know, we can be consumed through our words.
You know, we can be consumed through our energy, We
can be consumed through memory, We can be consumed just
by again empathy. So I don't think that wholeness will ever.
I don't think the point of this living experience is
to be whole. And I'm going based off of the

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Hebrew philosophical context, which does divert from the Greek Christian
where wholeness plays a different philosophical part. But sticking to
the Hebrew philosophical context, that brokenness is what's necessary for
the purpose of leading us into an experience where Wholeness

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isn't part of what's to be achieved. Wholeness is a mystery.
Wholeness is what is to be grassed, and that grasp
may be that there is a grip on it, but
it's never to truly be grasped. And if it was,
then the essence of what it means to be human,

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I believe would be ruined because we look around and
we see so much deception, materialistic deception, and it's clearly
a deception because we are not material completely, despite what
we may look like. Within us is immaterial, and that's
the whole intention of this experience is how to experience

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immaterial and material and how not to let material conquer
You know, what is within us in a metaphysical immaterial way,
and that that there is no wholeness to that, and
there should not be, because that would completely taint the
beauty of what this life is supposed to in essence

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be for the spirit within us.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Absolutely behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
You've asked whether poetry, philosophy and self development and spirituality
for mental health would fit this platform, and I would
say yes, of course, But why do you think, Why
do you think those subjects belong together?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I believe they belong together because this may seem weird,
but you know, we don't sync with our brain. You know,
our brain is only a pathway for our nervous system
to enact organs. So there is something beyond this AI

(34:19):
system that our brain is to where it can sink
and while thinking, it can reduce the feeling of our
heart beating and our stomach producing bile, and our digestion
happening to numb though, so that we can have a
more a good living experience without feeling those things, and

(34:40):
yet at the same time throwing consciously, subconsciously within our
nervous system trauma. So that's that's the point of our brain.
But the health that comes from within what we are,
our minds, that's a completely dif different, a completely different thing.

(35:02):
Mental health, a personal devotion, and spirituality. They all should
be tied together because they all combat the diagnosis of
what we are, which is the diagnosis of being humans.
So and in order for that, you know, diagnosis to

(35:22):
really take place, the diagnosis of being humans, there should
be or at least a thought that our emotions are
not physical, So where do they come from? Can't feel
an emotion, you can't physically feel an emotion. You can't
do anything with an emotion. Where do they like? Where

(35:44):
do they come from? That's a realm outside of anything,
and that's where the mental health kicks because with mental
health there is a disturbance, or I should say there
is as in the quality of emotional outbursts that should
be given from a normal to a non normal action

(36:08):
or act or point of view. The one that is
having a problem with their mental health, they're going to
be doing things that are beyond the norm for things
that should be normal. They're going to be reacting differently.
They're going to be thinking or overthinking to the point
of where their health is going to be in jeopardy.
Sirtuality kicks in because what's going on in that dimension

(36:32):
of the mind, Well, it's missing or it's lacking a
crucial character, and that is being mind plus that being
equals the full character that should be overseeing the humans,
not the human overseeing the mind and the being we
live from the point of view of our human being

(36:54):
overseeing the mind and the being attached to that mind.
It should be reverse. And that's our struggle. And that's
where the blending where I see or the fixing of
mental health. Spirituality and a devotional culture fits in because
once we can get aligned mentally and spiritually, that's when

(37:16):
we can also have a level of consciousness to be
able to make wiser decisions with our physical bodies, and
we can put our physical body into environments and into
situations that fit our specifics, talents, and skills and games
of persons so that we can get the best out

(37:36):
of who we individually and uniquely are. So I believe
that they are tied together for the purpose of unleashing
who we are to be in this living experience.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I totally agree. I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
But why do you think time is now to have
this conversation with our listeners?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, because it's I've been I've been, you know, doing
public public speaking about the philosophy that is within the
scriptures for a couple of years now, and you'd be
surprised how many even pastors reach out for me and
tell me that they do not even believe what they're

(38:19):
teaching from the pulps. There's a shift that has been
going on, and I'm finding the dialogue becoming more relevant
because still there are people that have conversations with that
tell me church isn't doing it for me, The community
at church is ruining my experience in church, or what's

(38:40):
being taught isn't actually what I know to be actually
in the Bible itself. So these kind of conversations are
necessary because it's absolutely time that we wake up to
what is actually happening, not just around us politically and

(39:03):
not even just around us spiritually, but what is happening
around us dogmatically. Because there is a shift where we
can see in science things are transcending. AI is taking
over jobs, things are happening. Everything seems to be either
growing or declining, whether it is our job market that

(39:27):
appears to be empty but for some reason no one
can get jobs, or jobs are being taken and removed
by non humans or things of that nature, and even
resumes being scanned by AI now keeping individuals from getting
into the job market for which they should be in.

(39:47):
You look at the states of religion and it is
completely like placid, like nothing is either growing or getting
better with it. It's neither growing or declining in a
way that is satisfactory. And all of the sub conversations

(40:11):
around that, whether it is the atheistic conversation or whether
it is the evolutionary biology conversation or whether it is
the Christian or religious conversation. These things are not helping
to advance anything. These conversations are not helping to advance
anything that has to do with the actual reality of

(40:32):
what this matrix is that we are in and what
is actually going on within us at it relates to
the living God. Meanwhile, what's being talked about and not
talked about is the deitya fabrication of which we in
a Western society and in today's modern society called God,

(40:53):
but is ultimately feos, which has nothing to do with God.
And so we are building a frame around that and
building an identity around that. And meanwhile people are losing
themselves completely to it, and they are dying in their beliefs,
not physically, mentally, spiritually, they are dying in these beliefs

(41:14):
and are continuing to go back and are continuing to suffer,
and are continuing to hold true to something that within
themselves they do know there is something wrong with it,
but yet we will not dig into it because of
a fear of going against traditional thought, or a fear
of going against mother or father, or a fear of

(41:37):
going against what that means to family, ties to franchise,
or to even ties to self being ingrained in these things.
So these conversations are relevant now because the level of
consciousness that we need in the type of society that
we are now living in. If we just look around,
a higher level of consciousness is absolutely needed for where

(42:01):
we are intending to go because if we are even
paying attention, things are not like the same as even
like last year, like goals are different, people are different,
everything is different, and that difference, that difference is trending

(42:22):
towards a realization that we need to kind of step
back from what's going on out there and step more
into what's going on with than us. So I'm finding
these conversations relevant for the purpose of what I see
being a need for a consistent elevation of mental, spiritual,

(42:43):
devotional development, and also for the purpose of the development
of personal, unique, individual philosophical culture that each and every
single person that is alive right now they need philosophy
like they need philosophy, and not philosophy of someone who

(43:04):
wrote something that was taught in the seminary and now
you're believing it. It's a philosophy that is developed through experience, structured,
scrutinized and recycled, rehashed within self and to the point
where we can then then as an individual, go out
and do a service that is fitting for the type

(43:25):
of character and personality that we are born to have
and do. So, you know, I find these conversations like
this necessary because someone, someone has to say something, Someone
has to say something beyond the normal traditional Jesus, Jesus, God, God.
There has to be someone. There has to be a

(43:48):
conversation that's willing to make someone be broken, whether they
want to hear it or not. And that conversation, whether
you know it, gets them upset in this moment. Six
months from now, something may happen and whatever life is

(44:08):
doing to them, they're gonna realize or have a memory
of the brokenness that's needed for them to transcend what
they're going through. So these conversations are needed for the
ripple effects for those that will hear them totally.

Speaker 8 (44:26):
Your upcoming book is titled Becoming.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
I really love that title.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
What does becoming mean to you spiritually, as.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
You know, on the philosophy.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Side, Yeah, it means the going back even to the
question of fullness. It means the chase of wholeness. It
means the grasp of wholeness. It means the art of
what it means to be human and the art of

(44:59):
what it means to be human. It's an art of
learning how to play while at the same time fight
with self and the end goal being marriage. So, you know,
a lot of my poetry it's it's got a context
that is based in love and that is based in marriage.

(45:24):
But the ultimate root of that, the allegory or the
metaphor behind that, is the poetry is symbolizing one's marriage
to themselves, to their selves, one's marriage to self. And
so when becoming, you know, we are the first couple,

(45:44):
the first couple that is supposed to exist before anyone
else reaches out to become a couple with someone else.
The first couple that should exist is mind and self
or personality and character. And so when becoming, we we
are going through the art of what it means to

(46:04):
fall in and fall out and fall in and fall
out of affection with character and with personality. So in
a spiritual context, in a philosophical context, that really means
being willing to confront what we are for the purpose
of learning who we are and who we are not,

(46:26):
and in that and through that and through my works
of poetry, I'm hoping to convey the art of what
it means to become.

Speaker 8 (46:40):
Absolutely is there is there a date on the book.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
There isn't the manuscript. The manuscript just got finished with
editing and now it's going through its publishing a book
cover process, So there isn't There isn't a date yet,
but it will be twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
All right, I love it.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
We have a piece of music called Jokers Revenge. And
is this something you composed, you wrote?

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (47:13):
You rap songs?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, this is actually that is that is me I do.
I love to write music, I sing, I do raps,
and I love to write and record. All of my
songs are still even though some of them have you know,
lyrics in them that are from familiar things like this

(47:39):
song jokers Revenge. It's all of my songs are about
the same things that I write about, except in music
it's a little bit more fun to you know, idealize
and to embell the situation. So in this song, I
wrote a song and recorded a song called Jokers Revenge
because you know, the joker is a character that is

(48:05):
always going against a Batman and always continually losing. But
at the same time, he's always there and philosophically, he's
always present to challenge Batman, and he's always laughed at.
But if you have to pay attention, if you had
to pay attention to this character, how he was created

(48:27):
by the creators, and the growth of this character over time,
you begin to see a sort of philosophical dialogue between
what it needs to be a live and what it
means to be conscious, because he's the character, the Joker,
that is conscious. And I wrote the song Joker's Revenge

(48:47):
of putting my own self as the Joker because I've
gone through so many situations where I am confronted with
within the religious world, because a lot of my work
does challenge conventional, traditional religious thought, and I get treated

(49:07):
as the Joker was treated. So I had fun making
a song about me as the Joker and what that
would actually mean, what that actually looks like, what that
actually feels like. But from a you know, from my
own living experience. So I the song I had fun with.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
All right, and guys, we have the song because I
know you want to hear it is called Joker's Revenge
by Lynnwood Jackson Jr.

Speaker 8 (49:35):
And then we'll be right back with more Lynn would man.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
You're just a fountain of talent. I love that.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
All right, here we go, stay tuned.

Speaker 11 (50:00):
Chris in the rooms, Chumpers in the room, think him,
Why you got him?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Why don't you just move? Don't sit because Seeking Tube
bust up Bruce's move? Why are you so seriously chokers
in the room.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Every time I see you walking through the room, it's
like a cannon fires, upper candle dies except for one
best of the face, the bob that I get when
this side desires to see you Crustafi sideways, white side
upside down inside. And I'm not as tired Anti Barbin, tired,
more obsessed with the child in the network, out the
higher and seeing you from the sky.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
The sign is always high.

Speaker 11 (50:31):
You know that a single back cause set up the fires.
Seeing it's south COVID started with descend their minds a rumor, right,
bet Bomino High couldn't ruin the love.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
That we have for Brutus ban Ors Lucive.

Speaker 11 (50:42):
It's not the kay Wait, this pandemic's designed And if
I'm the joker, you must be blind maybe if my
suit was made of t taining your plates on microwavable
message so flexable that I could do anything except when
I talk ut it see me, you would smile. Chunkers
in the rooms, Chokers in the room, think him, why
you got him?

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Why don't you just move? Don't sit because he can
do bust up move? Why are you so serious of
jokers in the room? Bet man Darling? Can I show
you my toys? Bet Mandling? A little anarchy for noise, Bet.

Speaker 11 (51:13):
Mandling, the order with chaos rise iss, bet Mandling, if
you're a knight? What am I just sit in the
cave with the bat which just turns for service to
cary with me.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
She could hardy.

Speaker 11 (51:23):
Stop worrying where she's the how the Smith and Wesson
may file. We're excited to broos the sception to follow
those indy cameras that he keeps for the interception. She
sent the messing with everything, so I had to string
out with up by a strain of thought so she
could have something to get distracted with me while.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
My spider sentence marble.

Speaker 11 (51:38):
Let the scene I have before me to destroy the
semblance of perfection. This is the septionus weapon society made
him into a LEXICONO.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
We turned to defining who we are.

Speaker 11 (51:47):
That's why when they pulled me up out of that
police starver.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Sent me under hood. I got up in a because they.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
Saw what was wrong.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
The chance and all hope al well be.

Speaker 11 (51:55):
Promised next time about getting the back gostom. It is
good enough, feelers ball and I got a riddle for Edward.
Don't back off a while before to switch your running
back for you? You driddling thought, Junkers in the room. Chunkers
in the room thinking why you got him?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Why don't you just move? Don't sit because seeking too?
What's stop Bruce's move? Why are you so seriously.

Speaker 11 (52:13):
Junkers in the room, Batman doling?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Can I show you my toys?

Speaker 11 (52:18):
Batman dolling? A little anarchyper noise, bat Man doling. The
order with the chaos rise is Batman darling?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
If you're a knight? What am I?

Speaker 11 (52:26):
And yes I hurt? So when I laugh, do not
look first at actions heard. I'm psycho third secondary weiss though.
First I see what works that you worship?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
What is servant? And I confess that I'm involved in it?

Speaker 11 (52:39):
I see the fraud, living manipulating society caping all with it.
I might evolve with it, but I won't stop with it.
The Regentda is something different than what you imagine. It
really isn't a hero and building, but about how Billin's
reversus central vetis to get some belief that a million
times right here than the height of buildings that are
at the heart of God the city.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
It's pathetic house.

Speaker 11 (52:59):
They switched flip narvratives just to get them looking better
than get woman in the poison, Ivy under the ladder.
And it's a fact promised that before I die, I
will expose their acts. So while the coming repeats itself
inhabit match un Kris in the room, Junkers in the room,
think him?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Why you got him? Why don't you just move? Don't
sit becuse seeking to bust out Bruce's move? Why are
you so serious of junkers in the room? Batman Darling?
Can I show you my toy? Batman Darling?

Speaker 11 (53:27):
A little anarchy for nause, bet Mandling, The order within
chaos rises, bet Vandalding.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
If you're a knight? What am mine?

Speaker 4 (53:57):
All right?

Speaker 8 (53:57):
All right?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Welcome back, Welcome back. That was Jokers Revenge by Lynn
Wood Jackson Junior.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (54:07):
I love it so My favorite part of that record
is why so serious?

Speaker 5 (54:11):
If jokers in the room, that's rights everything so tense?
Why you're so serious? Oh my gosh, she should relax?
All right, anyway, let's bring back lynn Wood. Hey, Hey, hey,
welcome back, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I love it, I love it? Why so serious? You
know you should be scared? You know, if I'm in
if you're saying, I'm in serior to you, If you
don't like what I'm saying, if you won't let me
speak because I won't teach what you're teaching, why are
you afraid?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
That is the question? The question? All right, lynn Wood?
And are closing?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
For someone listening who feels mentally heavy, spiritually confused, drowning
even or emotionally disconnected, what is one principle from your
philosophy that could help them begin the process of seeking
or becoming whole?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Write to yourself. You know this is something that I
still do. I like to write out everything that I'm thinking,
and when I do finish, I like to go back
and read it and then rewrite again or write again
just based off of what I just read. The purpose
being the more that we can, and this is an

(55:33):
exercise called a medicognitive a medicognitive practice. So a medico
cognitive practice is a practice that involves thinking about thinking,
and the aspect of thinking about thinking doesn't really just
mean on a basic surface level, I'm gonna think about
what I think. It actually means to emotionally connect and

(55:55):
to resonate with what you are reflecting within, what you're writing,
and the you in all of that. So you know,
an activity is feeling distorted as a human and as
a spiritual being, the activity of setting time aside to
be with yourself personally and in an intimate way through

(56:18):
writing for the purpose of being able to understand what's
really going on within and how to get at what's
going on within, so that you can begin to question
why you think that, you can question why you feel that,
you can begin to understand that what you're feeling it
does make sense and you are valid to feel that.
But at the same time, reviewing your own thoughts, you

(56:41):
can then pick out your errors of your personality, so
that now you can begin to understand your trait, your personality,
trait character, so that when you find yourself in situations again,
when you find yourself in moments. You can then have
a working knowledge of you, going back to you and
being able to track how not to fall back into

(57:02):
that trap that your personality trait will fall into given
that certain instance or circumstance. So there's a lot of
personal health and well being when going back with yourself
through writing, reviewing what is written, and then further digging
into what you're writing. So I will always say, if

(57:24):
feeling scattered, if feeling out of place, right, it doesn't
matter if you don't know what to write, just start
and the moment you start, you will not be able
to stop. And when you do stop, you're going to
hit on something that's gonna make you wanna just to think.
And from that point of thinking, moving to rationalization, even

(57:46):
if you don't realize it in the moment you leave,
go about your day, go about your time, you go
to sleep, or if you're doing this in the morning,
you wake up and go about whatever you're doing. Everything
is going to play back, whether you wake up or
you're going for your day, Everything that you have discovered
about yourself is going to play back, and you're going
to find strength slowly developing within you. Just from that

(58:08):
one act. So I always say, if you feeling scattered,
if you need help, you actually are the help. Like you,
the answer is inside of you. And if you can
get to that answer that is inside of you, that
answer that is inside of you, that's the answer that
is going to boost your spiritual culture to where then

(58:31):
the relevance of scripture will be able to make a
greater impact on you. Because scripture isn't going to do
anything for anyone unless there is first a culture for it.
And developing a culture for the scripture first involves developing
a culture and a love and a gratitude for self.
Which again, if anyone is always scared that I always

(58:52):
tells them, just begin by writing and whatever you do,
whatever you find, whatever you're writing, it's going to lead
you somewhere to where you're gonna get answered.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
All right, lynn Wood?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Where can our listeners connect with ste you on the
internet and uh stay up to date when the book releases.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You can catch up with me on my website. It's
Lynnwood Jackson Junior dot com. That's l I N W
O O D. Lynnwood Jackson Junior dot com. You can
also go to my go to YouTube. Actually you could
just type my name into Google Lynnwood Jackson Jr. And
everything about me is gonna pop up, and my website

(59:37):
will be there. And uh my Facebook business page where
I post my blogs on certain topics related to personal growth,
spiritual development, and also the historical context of the Christian
religion and also of the Bible. So my website is
the best way, and also videos on on YouTube and

(01:00:00):
also my Facebook business page.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
All right, and listeners, Just in case you need those links,
and I know you will, I will have them in
the description of this episode and in the show notes, So.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
All you guys have to do is just click the link.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Tonight's conversation reminded us that poetry can be more than expression.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
It can be examination.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Philosophy can be more than theory or.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Something you learn a seminary.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
It can become a discipline for life. Philosophy is something
that you're going through your experience, and you know you
may not have all the answers to why you're experiencing
certain things, but there are lessons in those experiences. Every
choice we make lead us down a different path. So

(01:00:51):
I think philosophy plays a huge indicator in that as well.
When you understand the understandable and sometimes you know, you
got to leave that room for God. You know, I
won't say sometimes you always have to leave that room
for God to direct you or shepherd you when you
don't understand the philosophy behind certain things that you go through.

(01:01:13):
And in scripture, when approach with humidity, with hunger, when
sincerity can become a mirror that reveals the condition of
the heart. Not going to say it's going to always.

Speaker 8 (01:01:23):
Be pretty, it's going to always be a proper reflection.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you will find some darkness and cobwell,
some bricks, some callous, but don't worry about that. When
you recognize it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
It's up to yous, up to you to let God
fix that for you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
You don't have to come to him perfect and well balanced.
You can come to him rag, tad, broken, crawl.

Speaker 8 (01:01:53):
Whatever it is, come to God's come to God and
let him deal with the conditions of your heart.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Lind Would Jackson Junior challenges to slow down, to think deeper,
to examine ourselves. Honestly, I really love his his view
on what love is. Even I learned some things tonight
and approach wisdom not as information but as transformation because
We're always changing, right at least I hope so yes.

(01:02:22):
All right, well, guys, make sure you connect with lynn
Wood expo his previous work Growth, looking to perfecting and
reforming personal religion, and stay ready for his upcoming poetry
book Becoming, because this isn't just radio, this is revival.
Thank you so much, Lynnwood. Thank you, Hey, my man,

(01:02:45):
take care, have a wonderful night. Thank you, take care,
Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 12 (01:03:05):
Give cool responsible I think that we are here as
creatives to provide an example that you can do things
different outside.

Speaker 7 (01:03:16):
Of expectations because some of us.

Speaker 12 (01:03:20):
Simply we're not born to the club. But there is
perhaps a door at one window or back gate, and
we can leave a clue for you to get into.
Life is short, that there are plenty of moments to
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(01:03:40):
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if you're a knight, what am I?

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charts for service.

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She sent the messing with everything. So what happen to
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What she could have?

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