December 22, 2025 • 29 mins
Unlock Your Potential: How to Rewire Your Brain & Overcome Subconscious Blocks
Are you tired of traditional talk therapy focusing on the past without giving you the tools to move forward? In this episode of Walk In Victory, host NaRon Tillman sits down with Master Conversational Hypnotist Deron Singh to reveal why the old methods often fail and how you can achieve a permanent mindset shift.
Work with Deron Singh:https://www.deronsingh.com/
Discover the science of neuroplasticity and how to use hypnosis to break free from limiting beliefs that are holding you back. Deron explains the secrets of subconscious mind reprogramming, helping CEOs and business owners change their state instantly to achieve success, peace, and true happiness. If you want to rewire your brain for victory, this conversation is your blueprint. Connect with Deron:
00:00 Introduction to Overcoming Subconscious Blocks
03:15 Meet the Master Conversational Hypnotist
05:02 The Power of Manifestation and Self-Responsibility
07:51 Reprogramming the Mind: A New Approach
11:45 The Importance of Changing Your State
14:12 Conversational Hypnosis Explained
20:19 The Role of Stories in Trauma and Healing
26:37 Conclusion: Walking in Victory
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Are you tired of traditional talk therapy focusing on the past without giving you the tools to move forward? In this episode of Walk In Victory, host NaRon Tillman sits down with Master Conversational Hypnotist Deron Singh to reveal why the old methods often fail and how you can achieve a permanent mindset shift.
Work with Deron Singh:https://www.deronsingh.com/
Discover the science of neuroplasticity and how to use hypnosis to break free from limiting beliefs that are holding you back. Deron explains the secrets of subconscious mind reprogramming, helping CEOs and business owners change their state instantly to achieve success, peace, and true happiness. If you want to rewire your brain for victory, this conversation is your blueprint. Connect with Deron:
- YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Deron_Singh
- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/deron_singh/
- LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deronsingh/
- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/deron.singh.334549
- Why changing your state is more effective than analyzing trauma.
- How conversational hypnosis works to bypass resistance.
- Practical steps to identify and remove mental blocks.
00:00 Introduction to Overcoming Subconscious Blocks
03:15 Meet the Master Conversational Hypnotist
05:02 The Power of Manifestation and Self-Responsibility
07:51 Reprogramming the Mind: A New Approach
11:45 The Importance of Changing Your State
14:12 Conversational Hypnosis Explained
20:19 The Role of Stories in Trauma and Healing
26:37 Conclusion: Walking in Victory
#WalkInVictory #Hypnosis #SubconsciousMind #Mindset #PersonalDevelopment
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support.
🎧 Thanks for listening to Walk In Victory with NaRon Tillman.
If this episode resonated with you, follow the show, leave a rating, and share it with someone who would benefit from the conversation.
📘 Read the Book — Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age
https://walkinvictory.me/awakening-i-am
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https://walkinvictory.me/victory-builders/Landing-page
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I work with a lot of business owners CEOs primarily
helping them with really helping them achieve peace and really
full state presence.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There are things that happens to us subconsciously that can
derail us from capturing what we think we ought to
fulfill in this life. They're blockage limits, whether it's in
the area of finance, creativity. It's like when somebody who's
(00:38):
an artist said that they have writers block or for
me early in business, depending on the number of the
size of the contract sending out that invoice. These are
things that we don't necessarily understand that's happening because it
(00:59):
happened under the surface.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It happens under the hood, and.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We don't really have any check engine light that tells
us that we need to change our oil or the
way that we think. What usually winds up happening is
if these blocks hinder us in our business, hinder us
in our deal making, hinder us in our creativity, us
in our performances, and we get with someone like our
(01:25):
guests today, they help us to work through it, and
then we can look back retrospectively with twenty twenty vision
and say, oh, that's what happened. These blockers. We all
have blinders. We all have them.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Can be worked through.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
There's variations of ways that they can be worked through,
but they're not worked through from the outside end. They
have to be worked through from the inside out to
transform the subconscious thought process. It's just not a work
of affirming. It's just not a work of manifesting. It's
just not a word because I can manifest to do
(02:03):
things that is just not going to be in the
cards to do.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
What happens is that we all have a blueprint.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And things that we are great at and purposeful for,
and when we align with our subconscious thoughts, we really
find how to harmonize our true gifts where we need
to be and overcome the thing that keeps us limited.
(02:33):
So we move from limiting beliefs to what we call
unlimited beliefs. My name is Noron Tillman. This is walking
victory where we sit you at the feet of the
masters and have conversations to help you evolve your life today.
Our master has a similar sounding name as my Doran.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Doing great?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And Iran, thank you so much joining us and sharing
a gift. If you don't mind talking to our audience
about how you help people to overcome the subconscious blocks
and what is your niche, audience and.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Core group that you like to work with.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, so I'm a master conversational hypnotists, So I use
hypnosis as a tool to help people actually reach their
desired state. So I work with a lot of business
owners CEOs primarily helping them with really helping them achieve
(03:36):
peace and really full state presence. That tends to be
a large portion of my audience where it's something where
on paper they have everything, the money, the wealth, the house,
the cars, and everything. However, deep down inside they still
(03:56):
don't feel fulfilled. And that can stem from so many things,
whether it be grief or whatever it could be. And
I explain to people that we're conditioned to think that
we have to go into the past to resolve something.
And I explain to people that through my process, there
(04:19):
is no speaking about that past as if it were
a therapy session. It's all future focus, future oriented, So
it's really all right, where is it that you want
to be or who do you want to become, and
help them achieve that state by them really it to me,
(04:41):
it's not so much releasing blocks because what's there is
actually a protective thing is actually helping them to feel
safe enough to release their old blueprint, their old programming
in order for them they have the ability to actually
the experience whatever they are. So it's like one thing
(05:04):
you mentioned during the introduction about manifestation or manifesting, So
a lot of people look at manifesting is them getting
the things that they want. However, manifestation is actually everything
that's happening in your life, whether you want to label
the good, the bad, the ugly, all that stuff. We're manifesting,
and it's really very vital to become aware of your
(05:29):
surroundings and see what's happening in your life and to
really just take responsibility.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
So you'd be like, you know what, that's not me.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's me. That's me.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's not this person, it's not this company, it's not
this circumstance, Like I am attracting these things into my life.
Because by you doing that, you're giving yourself the ability
to take ownership for this magnet of our mind that's
attracting these experiences. And it could be as simple as
(05:57):
just going within to notice like, oh, maybe I'm attracting
this thing even though I don't like it because it
actually keeps me from being seen in the world. So
maybe my subconscious mind is actually keeping me small because
it knows if I'm being too big or if I'm
being too vocal, maybe it can create judgment, and I
(06:18):
don't want to be judged. So everything that our mind's
doing is to benefit us, even if it may not
seem like it. It just may be it old programming
that just has to get replaced with a different Program's.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Funnier that you said that, because when we talk, when
we think about like the law of attraction, we do
have these magnets that we pull people in to us,
to who we visualize ourselves to be. So when we
look around our core groups, whether it's at work or whatever,
it's really an external picture of who we think we
(06:54):
are who we are at the time mentally. And that's
why when people who grew up in unsuccessful neighborhoods has
the mindset to change from that poor mindset or they
build themselves up, the old groups say, oh, you change
on us. You didn't change on them. You just really
are attracting people from where you are. I like the
(07:19):
idea and I want to explore the idea of how
you are creating these new blueprints, so to say, this
new architecture for the mind pathways, instead of drawing back
from the old blueprints the old pathways, we're forging towards
something better. And where did that philosophy come from? And
(07:42):
how did you go about saying this is the lane
that I think works best for the people that I
work with.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, because it's it that process originated from the original
talk therapy model, where where people started to talk about
their past. They thought that talking about it was going
to help them with whatever they were dealing with. However,
(08:12):
by people doing that, they're reinforcing their past. Because if
you think about law of attraction, if you would experience,
let's say, physical abuse in your past, how could you
talking about it actually help you overcome that? Because it's
(08:33):
the metaphor or analogy I use. It's like a computer.
Your computer operating system is going to get updated. So
what you do is you just install the new operating
system and the new operating system is going to uninstall
the old one on its own. You don't have to
(08:55):
go in there and uninstall the old one first and
then install the new one. You just install the new
one and then it uninstalls the old one. And it
does that because those two systems cannot be operating at
the same time. They're gonna just butt heads in your computer.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's not gonna work properly.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So what people have been conditioned into thinking is, oh,
I have to talk about the past in order to
resolve it. And what's taking place is we have layers
of our mind that we have protective layers of our mind.
So when people do that, they may not be getting
through all these layers of protection in their mind. And
(09:38):
it says, how come some people believe that healing is
a journey? And I tell people healing is not a
journey whatsoever. That's just a what's the call. It's a
general statement that people have been conditioned to believe, like, oh,
healing is a journey, to the point where people use
it as an excuse nowadays, like oh, you know, I
did this because I'm on my healing journey, or I
(09:58):
did that because I'm on my healing journey.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And it's like, what is it? When does an end?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And they don't know because they're told, oh, you'll be
healing for the rest of your life. But like, why
would people believe that we were born to be healing, Like,
when do you get to enjoy your life? Because healing
is not a journey, which people when I work with me,
they realize that healing is just a decision that you
make in your mind. And when you make that into
(10:24):
your mind, your program, your mind, Oh Neron wants to
become a billionaire. We didn't know that. Okay, great, now
let's create that program for billionaire status. Where if we
keep perpetuating the past. Oh, I'm this way because of
my neighborhood. I'm this way because of my upbringing. Your
(10:45):
mind's like, oh, we're this way because of our upbringing, neighborhood. Perfect,
got it. That's the program. So now it keeps perpetuating
that system. It's just like a tape recorder. You're playing
it over and over again in your head. And people
think they can just sit down and do affirmations. However,
there's protective layers that are there in place to avoid
(11:08):
new programming to get in because it filters it out.
Because once those programs get put into your mind, they
get locked in place, and they're there because once again,
they benefit us and they are protective things. So when
an individual not relaxed. But when they're safe in their mind,
(11:29):
the mind is open to new ideas and new perspective
of things. It's just like someone being chased by someone
and as they're getting chased, they're telling themselves, Oh, I'm happy,
I'm fine, I'm this, I'm this, and their minds like,
we're in a state of panic right now, like this,
that can't be true because the key is not about
changing your thoughts. The key is about changing your state,
(11:51):
and your state is not your emotions. Your emotions is
just a label that you use about your state. So
once you change your state, what happens is that will
automatically change those automatic thoughts that are going on in
your head. So it's like if someone's state is let's
(12:13):
say fatigue, they're feeling tired. That's their state. Now because
of them feeling that way, what will they start doing.
They're like, man, something must be wrong because I'm tired.
Now their mind's like, oh, something's wrong. Okay, great, So
what does their mind do. Let's show him or her
that something is wrong, and now they perpetuate this loop.
(12:34):
But then they try to change the thoughts, but they
don't change the state. What ends up happening is they
don't feel congruent. So it's about changing your state, not
your thoughts. And this is something that a lot of
we'll guess you say, spiritual books will talk about, oh,
change your thoughts, change your life. No, it's change your state,
which will change your thoughts, which will change your life.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, so it's the opposite.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Now that's a brilliant that's a brilliant, brilliant thing. Because
we are in the loop the subconscious mind does. It
feels like, hey, this is what we do, right, we
get paid, We sus sing the stone just got paid
Friday night, and that becomes the soundtrack of our lives
and we say, oh, I wonder why I leve from
track to check. That's the loop that we presented. And
(13:18):
now a subconscious mind and saying, hey, this is what
we do. We get paid, we get broke, we go
back to work. So we have to now create new thoughts,
create new ways of thinking, and then the mind, the state,
the mind state has to shift before the man, before
the thing that we desired manifest itself. That's why people
(13:40):
hit the lottery and become broke again because the finance
has changed.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But the state of mind didn't you say.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Technical conversational hypnosis. I like that term. How did you
what describe what that term means? And how did you
decide that working with entrepreneurs would be the thing that
you use this gift of yours towards.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So conversational hypnosis is me using like the name says,
using conversation to help someone get into a hypnotic state.
And once you got the keyword state, because it's all
about your state. So ultimately it's to bypass the analytical mind,
analytical mind, critical mind, the analyzing narration mind. They are
(14:37):
all just interchangeable terms for it. The mind that likes
to judge and be in control, So it bypasses that
controlling mind so that way things can be impressed onto
the unconscious mind. And once that happens, because for example,
it would be like if I was talking to someone
(14:57):
directly and I was like, hey, you're a billionaire, that
judging minds me like no or not. I have twenty
dollars in my bank account. There's no way I'm a
billionaire because I don't have that much money. But through
bypassing that part of the mind and talking to a
subconscious mind saying hey, you actually are a billionaire. Subconscious
(15:20):
mind doesn't agree or disagree, or it doesn't disagree, it
always agrees. So you say you're a billionaire's like okay, great.
So now because of that, it starts to draw those
resources ideas and feeling states and emotions for you to
actually physically experience that state. Because with your subconscious mind,
(15:41):
as you may have heard before, like it doesn't know
the difference between what's real and what's not. So you
just tell it what it is and what to do,
and it just always agrees, like okay. So it's no
different than when people are like, hey, I'm a loser.
Subconscious minds like okay, it's always going to agree with you.
(16:02):
The conscious mind is going to agree or discreete and
it's really looking for proof in the external world. That's
how come people are like, oh man, I keep trying
to affirm, but I'm not seeing it. It's like, because
it's not. It's not getting past that critical mind, the
analytical mind. It's trying to find proof. It's trying to
look for proof that that is actually true. And then
that's what happens. When people do that, they're like, oh man,
(16:25):
it's not working. Boom, their mind agreeds with it, and
now that sinks into their subconscious mind too. You're you're right,
it's not working. So now they're like nothing I do works,
and then that can perpetuate into a spiral of them
feeling depressed and apathy and hopeless. So and and I
explained that just so people know how quick that can happen.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And then your next part of your question, what was
this the second part of.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Work?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, as far as Niche Niching Niching down like, it
was just a natural process. I really didn't focus on
any particular audience at first.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
What I would do.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I just posted my message on YouTube and social media,
and that just tended to be the audience that came
to me. And I say that because I think a
lot of people look at people that own their own business.
Entrepreneurs CEOs are making six seven figures like clients I've
worked with and still work with as Oh, they got
(17:22):
everything figured out, they don't like they're no different than
the person that has five dollars in their bank account.
What's very important to be mindful of is even though
they may have more money, they still may have problems
that are very similar. They just found a tool like
(17:44):
money to become like their addiction. So it's no different
than someone that used alcohol to cope with things. That
person may use money to cope with things, where what
they'll do is they created a contract in their mind
of money's gonna make me happy. So what do they do.
They set out, They hustle their grind, They do everything
(18:06):
they can to make money. They build businesses after businesses,
and then they're traveling the world and then they're like,
I'm not happy, Like I guess I gotta do more.
So then they do more of it and they're like,
still not happy. And then they come to me like, hey,
I got everything I got, I got everything I want,
I can buy whatever I want, but I'm still not happy.
And then they realize, oh, oh, maybe money's not gonna
(18:27):
make me happy.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Just one example.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, no, And that's a great example because someone may
be listening right now who has a state of mindset
that if I just get a little bit more money,
then it's going to change everything else in my life.
Or I get another contract, then the business is going
to be okay, and then I'm going to be all right.
But if we don't change the state of mind and
(18:52):
I love that. I'm start using that when I'm working
with my.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Customers. I'm worried to just letting you know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now, if we don't change our state of mind, which
is actually creating what we call a new neural pathway,
which is a new way of thinking, without attaching ourselves
to that old way, because some people are not equipped
and let's we'll wrap this blow like this, some people
are not equipped to bring us out of that state
(19:18):
if they tap into our old worldview or old childhood
traumas and they're tapping into it. We are explaining and
we think that we're sitting across from someone that's going
to help us graduate or move to a new state
of mind, and we now leave there feeling worse than
we did when we got there because we're and we're
(19:42):
opening up old wounds that were we should be trying
to create new neighbors for that, because that old state
is still going to be there even if we tap
into it and help a person to try to build
a bridge rather than through hypnosis or mindfulness or metaale,
whatever tool that people use to build a new pathway,
(20:04):
that oh thought process is still living there, but we're
able to disconnect ourselves. How do you feel about that
philosophy or with the way that you do it? That
old process is.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Just it's the old process, isn't there. It's a good
example of that was I tell people that your story
is going to change around something. Because people will sometimes
(20:37):
get on a session with me and the first thing
I want to do is to start to talk about
their past and their traumas and this, that and the other,
and I'll tell them like, hey, like none of that
actually matters, and they get confused, and they get confused
because they've been so used to talking to people about
their problems or all that stuff. Like I don't even
(20:57):
really ask people what their problem is. I just say,
what do you want? Because when I asked, when I
used to ask, like, hey, what's the problem, what's going on? Well,
what ended up happening is well, you know, thirty years ago,
I dealt with this and it's like thirty minutes later
and I'm like, okay, so that's a lot that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So what do you want?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And I've had people just go into a hypnotic state
just by me asking them what they want. They just
go into a hypnotic state, just like that mainly because
they've never even asked themselves what do they want, because
they've been so attached to their story, and they're like,
I don't even know, and that I'll say, don't I know,
(21:41):
you don't know because you've been so attached to your
story about who you believe you are, because yeah, you
went through. Because it even goes back to people using
the word trauma. It's such a huge, huge word nowadays.
And I know someone was really upset at me on
social media. I made a video and I said, trauma
(22:02):
is not the event.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Trauma is what you believe happened.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Because if you're someone that experienced, let's say I was
use abuse. Since I'm on that abuse it earlier, you
use abuse like you could admit to yourself, yeah I
was hit or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Okay, that's a true statement.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
However, by you saying, oh, I was hit by my
mom because she didn't love me, that's a story, because
now you made that attached to this story, like, oh
my mom doesn't love me, so that's a story.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And then people are like, oh, you know I dealt
with X, Y and Z and da da da da da.
It's trauma.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But trauma like people think trauma always lives and stays
in their body. That is so untrue. It stays and
lives in your body because you keep holding on to
the story about trauma. That's all it is. So the
key thing for them is to let go of the story.
And once again, it's protective. They use that story to
(23:06):
keep them protected. And it's just like someone saying, Oh,
I can't do this because I'm tired. That's a story,
like I always tell people, like something that you can do.
That's really simple. It's just be mindful of the stories
that you tell yourself throughout the day, or you tell
other people, Oh, I don't have the money, story like.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You can buy money, like you could, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I've had people where they're like, I don't have the money,
and it's like an hour later they find the money somehow,
like oh, yeah, yeah, I found money this way, this way,
this way. It's about being resourceful with it. I don't
have the time, I don't have the money. People call
them excuses. I say, there's they're just stories, their narratives.
But when you perpetuate that, you're just locking those into
your mind even more so.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
It's going back to the question I know I I
love this.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, so the thought process they they're nonexistent, and that
that is not you forgetting what happened, it's you just
looking at the situation differently. I had a client recently
and she had this idea about this very strong inner
(24:16):
critic she had in her mind that she believe was
her mom. And during our session she came out of
her trance and she was like, my mom was always
a little kid, and she was always a little kid,
and she's like, I have so much compassion. I was like,
so upset because my mom never taught me how to
be confident. But I realized her mom was inconfident and
(24:38):
she was never an adult. She was always acting in
living like a little kid, and for her, she had
so much compassion. So because of that, she released this.
I will say this blame. She pit towards her mom
for her not being confident, because she in her mind
thought her mom was supposed to show how to be confident.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
But she realized, how can I learned how to be
come from someone that's not confident.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, it's I love, and then I'll let you go.
I love the whole trauma because I trauma being wrapped
into the story, because the stories actually live in a body.
And I used to tell people up until after this
(25:23):
interview that trauma store is in the body. But it's
not the trauma. It's the story that we connect to
the trauma.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Trauma is just trauma. Trauma is a tool, right, just
like joy is a tool. But yeah, it's something like
this just trying to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like, if someone used the word trauma, you can
ask them what is trauma?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Nine times ten?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
They don't know what, Like, they're going to tell you
a story.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It's a story.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
There is no word that you don't even know. And
it's because you've been so conditioned to our society saying oh, trauma,
because if you really think about it too, we use
this word so loosely now, and it's like, well, if
we're so aware of trauma, then why are we still
experiencing so much trauma in our world?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, maybe it's not about labeling it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, And we don't really have a working definition
because everyone is going to give you the story.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Exactly, so it goes back to okay, yeah, it's like
it's just something almost like hey, yeah, I know you, Yeah,
you dealt with this trauma. Okay, well I'm sure you
don't want the trauma, so what do you want instead?
And then once again they'd be like, oh, I've never
even thought about that. Yeah, because at the trauma, but
what do you want?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The mind only works can only focus on one thing
at a time, So either focus is going the past,
worried about the future, or being present into what do
we want right now? And most people don't do the
true intentions because we don't we don't see it down
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and where when we sit down in quiet time, we're
worried about what we can't pay or focusing on trauma
instead of saying, how do I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really maximize what it is? My true? I am itself?
My true I.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Am and create because we create from within the life
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Speaker 3 (29:02):
Peace,
I work with a lot of business owners CEOs primarily
helping them with really helping them achieve peace and really
full state presence.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There are things that happens to us subconsciously that can
derail us from capturing what we think we ought to
fulfill in this life. They're blockage limits, whether it's in
the area of finance, creativity. It's like when somebody who's
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an artist said that they have writers block or for
me early in business, depending on the number of the
size of the contract sending out that invoice. These are
things that we don't necessarily understand that's happening because it
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happened under the surface.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It happens under the hood, and.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We don't really have any check engine light that tells
us that we need to change our oil or the
way that we think. What usually winds up happening is
if these blocks hinder us in our business, hinder us
in our deal making, hinder us in our creativity, us
in our performances, and we get with someone like our
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guests today, they help us to work through it, and
then we can look back retrospectively with twenty twenty vision
and say, oh, that's what happened. These blockers. We all
have blinders. We all have them.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Can be worked through.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
There's variations of ways that they can be worked through,
but they're not worked through from the outside end. They
have to be worked through from the inside out to
transform the subconscious thought process. It's just not a work
of affirming. It's just not a work of manifesting. It's
just not a word because I can manifest to do
(02:03):
things that is just not going to be in the
cards to do.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
What happens is that we all have a blueprint.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And things that we are great at and purposeful for,
and when we align with our subconscious thoughts, we really
find how to harmonize our true gifts where we need
to be and overcome the thing that keeps us limited.
(02:33):
So we move from limiting beliefs to what we call
unlimited beliefs. My name is Noron Tillman. This is walking
victory where we sit you at the feet of the
masters and have conversations to help you evolve your life today.
Our master has a similar sounding name as my Doran.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Doing great?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And Iran, thank you so much joining us and sharing
a gift. If you don't mind talking to our audience
about how you help people to overcome the subconscious blocks
and what is your niche, audience and.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Core group that you like to work with.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, so I'm a master conversational hypnotists, So I use
hypnosis as a tool to help people actually reach their
desired state. So I work with a lot of business
owners CEOs primarily helping them with really helping them achieve
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peace and really full state presence. That tends to be
a large portion of my audience where it's something where
on paper they have everything, the money, the wealth, the house,
the cars, and everything. However, deep down inside they still
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don't feel fulfilled. And that can stem from so many things,
whether it be grief or whatever it could be. And
I explain to people that we're conditioned to think that
we have to go into the past to resolve something.
And I explain to people that through my process, there
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is no speaking about that past as if it were
a therapy session. It's all future focus, future oriented, So
it's really all right, where is it that you want
to be or who do you want to become, and
help them achieve that state by them really it to me,
(04:41):
it's not so much releasing blocks because what's there is
actually a protective thing is actually helping them to feel
safe enough to release their old blueprint, their old programming
in order for them they have the ability to actually
the experience whatever they are. So it's like one thing
(05:04):
you mentioned during the introduction about manifestation or manifesting, So
a lot of people look at manifesting is them getting
the things that they want. However, manifestation is actually everything
that's happening in your life, whether you want to label
the good, the bad, the ugly, all that stuff. We're manifesting,
and it's really very vital to become aware of your
(05:29):
surroundings and see what's happening in your life and to
really just take responsibility.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
So you'd be like, you know what, that's not me.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's me. That's me.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's not this person, it's not this company, it's not
this circumstance, Like I am attracting these things into my life.
Because by you doing that, you're giving yourself the ability
to take ownership for this magnet of our mind that's
attracting these experiences. And it could be as simple as
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just going within to notice like, oh, maybe I'm attracting
this thing even though I don't like it because it
actually keeps me from being seen in the world. So
maybe my subconscious mind is actually keeping me small because
it knows if I'm being too big or if I'm
being too vocal, maybe it can create judgment, and I
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don't want to be judged. So everything that our mind's
doing is to benefit us, even if it may not
seem like it. It just may be it old programming
that just has to get replaced with a different Program's.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Funnier that you said that, because when we talk, when
we think about like the law of attraction, we do
have these magnets that we pull people in to us,
to who we visualize ourselves to be. So when we
look around our core groups, whether it's at work or whatever,
it's really an external picture of who we think we
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are who we are at the time mentally. And that's
why when people who grew up in unsuccessful neighborhoods has
the mindset to change from that poor mindset or they
build themselves up, the old groups say, oh, you change
on us. You didn't change on them. You just really
are attracting people from where you are. I like the
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idea and I want to explore the idea of how
you are creating these new blueprints, so to say, this
new architecture for the mind pathways, instead of drawing back
from the old blueprints the old pathways, we're forging towards
something better. And where did that philosophy come from? And
(07:42):
how did you go about saying this is the lane
that I think works best for the people that I
work with.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, because it's it that process originated from the original
talk therapy model, where where people started to talk about
their past. They thought that talking about it was going
to help them with whatever they were dealing with. However,
(08:12):
by people doing that, they're reinforcing their past. Because if
you think about law of attraction, if you would experience,
let's say, physical abuse in your past, how could you
talking about it actually help you overcome that? Because it's
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the metaphor or analogy I use. It's like a computer.
Your computer operating system is going to get updated. So
what you do is you just install the new operating
system and the new operating system is going to uninstall
the old one on its own. You don't have to
(08:55):
go in there and uninstall the old one first and
then install the new one. You just install the new
one and then it uninstalls the old one. And it
does that because those two systems cannot be operating at
the same time. They're gonna just butt heads in your computer.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's not gonna work properly.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So what people have been conditioned into thinking is, oh,
I have to talk about the past in order to
resolve it. And what's taking place is we have layers
of our mind that we have protective layers of our mind.
So when people do that, they may not be getting
through all these layers of protection in their mind. And
(09:38):
it says, how come some people believe that healing is
a journey? And I tell people healing is not a
journey whatsoever. That's just a what's the call. It's a
general statement that people have been conditioned to believe, like, oh,
healing is a journey, to the point where people use
it as an excuse nowadays, like oh, you know, I
did this because I'm on my healing journey, or I
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did that because I'm on my healing journey.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And it's like, what is it? When does an end?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And they don't know because they're told, oh, you'll be
healing for the rest of your life. But like, why
would people believe that we were born to be healing, Like,
when do you get to enjoy your life? Because healing
is not a journey, which people when I work with me,
they realize that healing is just a decision that you
make in your mind. And when you make that into
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your mind, your program, your mind, Oh Neron wants to
become a billionaire. We didn't know that. Okay, great, now
let's create that program for billionaire status. Where if we
keep perpetuating the past. Oh, I'm this way because of
my neighborhood. I'm this way because of my upbringing. Your
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mind's like, oh, we're this way because of our upbringing, neighborhood. Perfect,
got it. That's the program. So now it keeps perpetuating
that system. It's just like a tape recorder. You're playing
it over and over again in your head. And people
think they can just sit down and do affirmations. However,
there's protective layers that are there in place to avoid
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new programming to get in because it filters it out.
Because once those programs get put into your mind, they
get locked in place, and they're there because once again,
they benefit us and they are protective things. So when
an individual not relaxed. But when they're safe in their mind,
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the mind is open to new ideas and new perspective
of things. It's just like someone being chased by someone
and as they're getting chased, they're telling themselves, Oh, I'm happy,
I'm fine, I'm this, I'm this, and their minds like,
we're in a state of panic right now, like this,
that can't be true because the key is not about
changing your thoughts. The key is about changing your state,
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and your state is not your emotions. Your emotions is
just a label that you use about your state. So
once you change your state, what happens is that will
automatically change those automatic thoughts that are going on in
your head. So it's like if someone's state is let's
(12:13):
say fatigue, they're feeling tired. That's their state. Now because
of them feeling that way, what will they start doing.
They're like, man, something must be wrong because I'm tired.
Now their mind's like, oh, something's wrong. Okay, great, So
what does their mind do. Let's show him or her
that something is wrong, and now they perpetuate this loop.
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But then they try to change the thoughts, but they
don't change the state. What ends up happening is they
don't feel congruent. So it's about changing your state, not
your thoughts. And this is something that a lot of
we'll guess you say, spiritual books will talk about, oh,
change your thoughts, change your life. No, it's change your state,
which will change your thoughts, which will change your life.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, so it's the opposite.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Now that's a brilliant that's a brilliant, brilliant thing. Because
we are in the loop the subconscious mind does. It
feels like, hey, this is what we do, right, we
get paid, We sus sing the stone just got paid
Friday night, and that becomes the soundtrack of our lives
and we say, oh, I wonder why I leve from
track to check. That's the loop that we presented. And
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now a subconscious mind and saying, hey, this is what
we do. We get paid, we get broke, we go
back to work. So we have to now create new thoughts,
create new ways of thinking, and then the mind, the state,
the mind state has to shift before the man, before
the thing that we desired manifest itself. That's why people
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hit the lottery and become broke again because the finance
has changed.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But the state of mind didn't you say.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Technical conversational hypnosis. I like that term. How did you
what describe what that term means? And how did you
decide that working with entrepreneurs would be the thing that
you use this gift of yours towards.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So conversational hypnosis is me using like the name says,
using conversation to help someone get into a hypnotic state.
And once you got the keyword state, because it's all
about your state. So ultimately it's to bypass the analytical mind,
analytical mind, critical mind, the analyzing narration mind. They are
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all just interchangeable terms for it. The mind that likes
to judge and be in control, So it bypasses that
controlling mind so that way things can be impressed onto
the unconscious mind. And once that happens, because for example,
it would be like if I was talking to someone
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directly and I was like, hey, you're a billionaire, that
judging minds me like no or not. I have twenty
dollars in my bank account. There's no way I'm a
billionaire because I don't have that much money. But through
bypassing that part of the mind and talking to a
subconscious mind saying hey, you actually are a billionaire. Subconscious
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mind doesn't agree or disagree, or it doesn't disagree, it
always agrees. So you say you're a billionaire's like okay, great.
So now because of that, it starts to draw those
resources ideas and feeling states and emotions for you to
actually physically experience that state. Because with your subconscious mind,
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as you may have heard before, like it doesn't know
the difference between what's real and what's not. So you
just tell it what it is and what to do,
and it just always agrees, like okay. So it's no
different than when people are like, hey, I'm a loser.
Subconscious minds like okay, it's always going to agree with you.
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The conscious mind is going to agree or discreete and
it's really looking for proof in the external world. That's
how come people are like, oh man, I keep trying
to affirm, but I'm not seeing it. It's like, because
it's not. It's not getting past that critical mind, the
analytical mind. It's trying to find proof. It's trying to
look for proof that that is actually true. And then
that's what happens. When people do that, they're like, oh man,
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it's not working. Boom, their mind agreeds with it, and
now that sinks into their subconscious mind too. You're you're right,
it's not working. So now they're like nothing I do works,
and then that can perpetuate into a spiral of them
feeling depressed and apathy and hopeless. So and and I
explained that just so people know how quick that can happen.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And then your next part of your question, what was
this the second part of.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Work?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, as far as Niche Niching Niching down like, it
was just a natural process. I really didn't focus on
any particular audience at first.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
What I would do.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I just posted my message on YouTube and social media,
and that just tended to be the audience that came
to me. And I say that because I think a
lot of people look at people that own their own business.
Entrepreneurs CEOs are making six seven figures like clients I've
worked with and still work with as Oh, they got
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everything figured out, they don't like they're no different than
the person that has five dollars in their bank account.
What's very important to be mindful of is even though
they may have more money, they still may have problems
that are very similar. They just found a tool like
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money to become like their addiction. So it's no different
than someone that used alcohol to cope with things. That
person may use money to cope with things, where what
they'll do is they created a contract in their mind
of money's gonna make me happy. So what do they do.
They set out, They hustle their grind, They do everything
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they can to make money. They build businesses after businesses,
and then they're traveling the world and then they're like,
I'm not happy, Like I guess I gotta do more.
So then they do more of it and they're like,
still not happy. And then they come to me like, hey,
I got everything I got, I got everything I want,
I can buy whatever I want, but I'm still not happy.
And then they realize, oh, oh, maybe money's not gonna
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make me happy.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Just one example.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, no, And that's a great example because someone may
be listening right now who has a state of mindset
that if I just get a little bit more money,
then it's going to change everything else in my life.
Or I get another contract, then the business is going
to be okay, and then I'm going to be all right.
But if we don't change the state of mind and
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I love that. I'm start using that when I'm working
with my.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Customers. I'm worried to just letting you know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now, if we don't change our state of mind, which
is actually creating what we call a new neural pathway,
which is a new way of thinking, without attaching ourselves
to that old way, because some people are not equipped
and let's we'll wrap this blow like this, some people
are not equipped to bring us out of that state
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if they tap into our old worldview or old childhood
traumas and they're tapping into it. We are explaining and
we think that we're sitting across from someone that's going
to help us graduate or move to a new state
of mind, and we now leave there feeling worse than
we did when we got there because we're and we're
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opening up old wounds that were we should be trying
to create new neighbors for that, because that old state
is still going to be there even if we tap
into it and help a person to try to build
a bridge rather than through hypnosis or mindfulness or metaale,
whatever tool that people use to build a new pathway,
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that oh thought process is still living there, but we're
able to disconnect ourselves. How do you feel about that
philosophy or with the way that you do it? That
old process is.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Just it's the old process, isn't there. It's a good
example of that was I tell people that your story
is going to change around something. Because people will sometimes
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get on a session with me and the first thing
I want to do is to start to talk about
their past and their traumas and this, that and the other,
and I'll tell them like, hey, like none of that
actually matters, and they get confused, and they get confused
because they've been so used to talking to people about
their problems or all that stuff. Like I don't even
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really ask people what their problem is. I just say,
what do you want? Because when I asked, when I
used to ask, like, hey, what's the problem, what's going on? Well,
what ended up happening is well, you know, thirty years ago,
I dealt with this and it's like thirty minutes later
and I'm like, okay, so that's a lot that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So what do you want?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And I've had people just go into a hypnotic state
just by me asking them what they want. They just
go into a hypnotic state, just like that mainly because
they've never even asked themselves what do they want, because
they've been so attached to their story, and they're like,
I don't even know, and that I'll say, don't I know,
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you don't know because you've been so attached to your
story about who you believe you are, because yeah, you
went through. Because it even goes back to people using
the word trauma. It's such a huge, huge word nowadays.
And I know someone was really upset at me on
social media. I made a video and I said, trauma
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is not the event.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Trauma is what you believe happened.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Because if you're someone that experienced, let's say I was
use abuse. Since I'm on that abuse it earlier, you
use abuse like you could admit to yourself, yeah I
was hit or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Okay, that's a true statement.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
However, by you saying, oh, I was hit by my
mom because she didn't love me, that's a story, because
now you made that attached to this story, like, oh
my mom doesn't love me, so that's a story.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And then people are like, oh, you know I dealt
with X, Y and Z and da da da da da.
It's trauma.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But trauma like people think trauma always lives and stays
in their body. That is so untrue. It stays and
lives in your body because you keep holding on to
the story about trauma. That's all it is. So the
key thing for them is to let go of the story.
And once again, it's protective. They use that story to
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keep them protected. And it's just like someone saying, Oh,
I can't do this because I'm tired. That's a story,
like I always tell people, like something that you can do.
That's really simple. It's just be mindful of the stories
that you tell yourself throughout the day, or you tell
other people, Oh, I don't have the money, story like.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You can buy money, like you could, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I've had people where they're like, I don't have the money,
and it's like an hour later they find the money somehow,
like oh, yeah, yeah, I found money this way, this way,
this way. It's about being resourceful with it. I don't
have the time, I don't have the money. People call
them excuses. I say, there's they're just stories, their narratives.
But when you perpetuate that, you're just locking those into
your mind even more so.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
It's going back to the question I know I I
love this.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, so the thought process they they're nonexistent, and that
that is not you forgetting what happened, it's you just
looking at the situation differently. I had a client recently
and she had this idea about this very strong inner
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critic she had in her mind that she believe was
her mom. And during our session she came out of
her trance and she was like, my mom was always
a little kid, and she was always a little kid,
and she's like, I have so much compassion. I was like,
so upset because my mom never taught me how to
be confident. But I realized her mom was inconfident and
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she was never an adult. She was always acting in
living like a little kid, and for her, she had
so much compassion. So because of that, she released this.
I will say this blame. She pit towards her mom
for her not being confident, because she in her mind
thought her mom was supposed to show how to be confident.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
But she realized, how can I learned how to be
come from someone that's not confident.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, it's I love, and then I'll let you go.
I love the whole trauma because I trauma being wrapped
into the story, because the stories actually live in a body.
And I used to tell people up until after this
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interview that trauma store is in the body. But it's
not the trauma. It's the story that we connect to
the trauma.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Trauma is just trauma. Trauma is a tool, right, just
like joy is a tool. But yeah, it's something like
this just trying to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like, if someone used the word trauma, you can
ask them what is trauma?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Nine times ten?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
They don't know what, Like, they're going to tell you
a story.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It's a story.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
There is no word that you don't even know. And
it's because you've been so conditioned to our society saying oh, trauma,
because if you really think about it too, we use
this word so loosely now, and it's like, well, if
we're so aware of trauma, then why are we still
experiencing so much trauma in our world?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, maybe it's not about labeling it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, And we don't really have a working definition
because everyone is going to give you the story.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Exactly, so it goes back to okay, yeah, it's like
it's just something almost like hey, yeah, I know you, Yeah,
you dealt with this trauma. Okay, well I'm sure you
don't want the trauma, so what do you want instead?
And then once again they'd be like, oh, I've never
even thought about that. Yeah, because at the trauma, but
what do you want?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The mind only works can only focus on one thing
at a time, So either focus is going the past,
worried about the future, or being present into what do
we want right now? And most people don't do the
true intentions because we don't we don't see it down
(27:00):
and where when we sit down in quiet time, we're
worried about what we can't pay or focusing on trauma
instead of saying, how do I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Really maximize what it is? My true? I am itself?
My true I.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Am and create because we create from within the life
that I really desire to have. And that's why you
are the goat. I told you guys, we sit you
out the feet of the masters. You've heard us work
through this this beautiful session, and these are tools that
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you can actually apply and use today, but more so
if you want to continue to grow in the path
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Peace,
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