The Things That Drive Us Crazy

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, goody being Welcome to Unveiled, where all conversations
are safe revealing an uncuffed. Tonight's show has partnered with
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(00:24):
have christ Jen, we have Banetta and Louise, and we
have car Mane and Kamberla. Don play our royal entrance
song now exactly exactly, Royalty has arrived, all right, everybody,

(00:46):
So we are in November already. What are we revealing tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's been cold, sweatingness.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's a revelation. I know, November, Chili, go with it.
I like the cold. I know you, yes, love it,
love it, love it all right. But what we are
actually revealing is the things that drive us crazy. And lord,
we have a lot of that going on, a lot
of things going on that are going to drive us crazy.

(01:22):
We already are are going to or we're picking up
things that we don't want to uh have to go
down the path, but they're there. So who wants to
start this conversation out?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Did you really break out a yellow memo pad.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's been yellow, absolutely incorrect, incorrect, always been yellow. See
see yeah, An, I'm just going to take that.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I can get a white pet if you'd like.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We did try to bring one out earlier because you're like,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Find one yellow my yellow notepath. All right, these are
the things that drive me crazy, the little nit noise
things like my yellow pad. I have to go with
a white notebook and she said, what are you doing
with that? I can't find my yellow pad. It's because

(02:26):
it's here, Oh thank you, dear. Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
The things that drive me crazy not so much Kimberly,
but the organization of things. Right, So it's.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like my pad is gone. She moved it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I didn't know she moved it, but she did the
right thing because it's all where it needed to be
with all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
But where it needs to be is subject to interpretations.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Where I believe something needs to be might not be
where he thinks something needs to be. And this can
end up being a fifteen minute argument.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
So this could also be a.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Fifteen minute diatribe because have you gone to somewhere You've
put something in the house, Chris, and it's gone, and
it's put in a different place because it belongs in
that different place.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, because we've done it so many times to put
it it once, it doesn't go in the same place.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love the finger pointing at this right now.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
He is famous for moving things around weekly weekly.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Everything has a spot.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yes, but you put it in spots.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
But why is it that spot.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
We're not supposed to be wait? Wait, wait this this,
this is this is the jigsaw puzzle of refrigerators.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You go in there, open it up.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You're like, if there is a space, put the flipping
food in the refrigerator.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
It's got two reasons to be in there, to gold
and to wait to be eaten.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But then like a month later, like I forgot this
was in there because it was all behind that there.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Was in refrigeration had you can't even identify, and it stunk.
The holy hell.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's been in there. You open the refrigerator.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yes, refrigerator organization one O one is definitely a challenge
in us. That drives both of us crazy because I
will put something somewhere like the eggs.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Why were the eggs.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Because we put because we shoved it under the ice
maker and they froze.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Some of the eggs, so I said, put them back
on the other side.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
But that's where your pirates dishes go. That you have
a stroke if the pirates dishes aren't.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
So the covers on your pirate so they glass on
your pirates dishes?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are they covers glass? So they call it coated to.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, they're red, they're not.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
They we have we have like four reds, a blue,
some weird color, and then another week.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Sometimes we do, but you with sharpie marker saying what.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It is, because if I don't implement like it. So
like a kitchen in a in the house, someone forgets
that there's food in there and to eat it even
though she opens.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It up, and it's like, damn, I put this it
was a month ago.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
With the expiration date with the bread. He has to
put it in magic marker so everyone knows it by
this date.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah later, I'm not even gonna get in that conversation
because I'm gonna hear nothing. But he doesn't even check
the express day. Yeah I don't. I'm bad about an
initiation date on it doesn't even go there.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm going to go there because.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I already admit it.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You haven't a problem.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
An example example well, looking for string beans because we
want to string this and we did not have fresh
string beans. We just finished the string beans since we
didn't go to the market. So I says, I think
there's a can in the cupboard.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, she goes, we'll go check it, right, peas, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Peace He's sorry, get it right, so I said. The
first thing I do is I turned that can over
and I say, best used by twenty twenty two. Oh no,
these things are going somewhere. And then the other one
was the corn. The corn was good, but the next year.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You didn't eat the peas.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Oh no, we got.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Another but.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Acquies like I used to be right, Okay, I'm not
going to argue, right, we would have been eating those peas.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know we wouldn't. You know, we wouldn't have I'm
not that bad.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
I mean exactly, I didn't give you within six months
of an expiration data.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right, it's canned, it's sealed. Well will The key
is is that we don't do it well. You know,
It's like we don't do a lot of cant good.
So we just happen to have a.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Few up there.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
First move three three cans? Right, So it's like okay,
because normally everything we do is either fresh or frozen.
And I was like, okay, we don't have any, but
I wanted peas to make for this dish that I
was making for dinner. I'm like, well, then get something
you know we don't have. You know what we need
to do, go to the store. Okay, I get it.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mess up.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I don't check the dates regularly. Stuff off the cheese.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Sometimes it's not good.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, we were growing up his kids. It used to
be told it was penicillin cooked right.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I said that the other day.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's the truth.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
She had made pumpkin muffins and it were quite delicious,
and she was cleaning the dish and I was like,
what happened?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
She she does? She looked at me and I was like,
they go back. Yes. I walked over. I was like,
oh what penicillin? I like, we just sut this all
and go to work.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hell no not I no, hell no? Like no, and
you had.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
All the good fuzz on it.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
It was like, yeah, that's definitely.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Not a.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yes. So now we really jumped into this.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's a really good place to start.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
So we're talking about things that you know, drive us
crazy amongst each other.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
We've got to venture out into the rest of the world.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Okay, I will happily adventure.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Here we go, before we do any other things that
you want to enlighten about.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I feel like this is a subject that we go.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Off for hours, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
There might be a part four. We have an Yes,
this is a great time.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
This is because let's venture out. What is something that
drives us crazy outside? People who tailgate when you're on
the highway. Yeah, oh, he ain't gotta be uh on
the highway.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel liked be looking.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like I am definitely one of those people. And I
own it. I do it.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
I will happily slam on my brakes if you're riding
my ass, I have no.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Problem you're doing it. Not only that, I will throw
stuff out my window and I won't do that that.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I won't.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I don't do pennies.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
I will better than that.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's called I will damage your asses.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
There tail getting you there on your phone? Yes, yeah, right,
that's that's that right there.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
That is my biggest thing that I hate is people
on the phones. How absorbed they are on the day
to day and they feel that they can't survive without
looking or being on their phone, put it down and
freaking enjoy life.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
God dang, Okay, but you know what they're doing and
enjoy others people's life exactly because life is sure and
you got to grab every moment.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
But I don't really care to hear about other people's lives.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's like, I don't care about their life. I mean,
what are they doing for me?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
They're not doing it. Excuse the language, damn thing. It's
like they're they're not paying my bills. They're not freaking
putting a roof over my head. I'm doing it myself.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's like reality TV. Why do people watch reality TV?

Speaker 5 (10:39):
They want to see if somebody else's life is more
interesting than theirs.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's more tragic than theirs. It's just a ship show
to escape their own, right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Low Deck's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
What I don't even think that's reality Deck.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Have you have you seen that you talked about?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Those ones are on, Yeah, they're all the super yachts
we watch.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
We watched like a couple seasons of it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
We were at were like, there's no way first awesome, Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It is terrible to how people treat each other. That's
the reality of how people treat each each other right
every day, it's scary. It's scary, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
So being home and working from home, TV is on
for noise while I'm doing something in the kitchen, and
I got to tell.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
You it, I love having one order on because at
least I know my special victims unit. I know what
I'm going to get. Reality TV. My girlfriend, she swears
by watching the Oh what is that? It's a the
Real Housewives of wherever it is, uh, Potomac.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
I can't even as similarly in any way, shape or
form or identify with these people, with their lives, with
their alleged problems, the manifestation of issues for ratings like
I want to get up in the morning, have my two,
go for my run, do some.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Work, do some work, and do someone and then go
to the gym. Yes, that is quiet simplicity.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Who wants to know if Sally May and Lizzie Sue.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Or doing whatever the hell it is on real scary.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
A lot of people want to live in right agreed facts. Life.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Life is life, you know, But a lot of people
want to live on the on the fake side of
the world.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Imagine how much better.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't even think it's the face of the world.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think it's the fake side of like what's going
on exactly, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, you guys have youngins, right, so okay, you.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Grown stuff in the backyard. Now you're youngs.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
So have any of them be like I want to
be an influencer or something like that, you.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Know, not really thank god, like going to the video games.
But you know, he's not out there trying to be
an influencer or YouTuber or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
He just knows what he wants to do when he
gets older, just straight.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, so you guys have over retiring soon.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hopefully.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
But you know, about YouTube, there's different. I feel like
there's different type of streamer. There's the fake, they're the
pretenders and they're the real because I've seen both sides,
and there's people who utilize their money the right way,
right to help other people their influence.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yes, yeah, I agree, right, yeah, I agree with that.
I think that that there's nothing wrong with being influencer
as long as you're doing it for a lot of
the right reasons. And then they at the same token,
I'm not going to bash somebody who knows how to
connect with people and make them watch them, because people
do it every day if they're feeding them by by

(14:08):
being a part of their community, right, regardless whether we
like it or not. You know, at the end of
the day, I think that when I say feed, I'm
talking about the fact that these people wouldn't get paid
if people didn't watch them, right, right.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think it's a nomenclature that I find so offensive.
I don't like the word influencer. It's like that's saying
that you, as an individual, have the power over me
to influence.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
To God, that's what people are doing.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's how sad is that they're taking away independent ability
to make decisions, independent thinking, and dependent choice. Because I'm
going to see, you know, Carmine is wearing this great
you know, two thousand dollars jacket. Oh well, I have
to make sure my husband has the same two thousand
dollars jacket because.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
He has it. Wait, we know that. But at the
end of the day, the whole thing about being influenced,
we all know that whether they were on this is opinion,
whether you're on a YouTube scenario, whatever, people every day
influence you in some type of way. Right.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You have certain.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Things that we look at and we will be like, oh,
you know, this is something I might want to do,
you know, whether it's going back to school, you're influenced
by somebody's success. To some degree. People can't become successful
unless somebody's watching them becomes and helping them become successful.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think I think that's the problem though. It's like.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
The social media has degraded what the term influencer is
or who should be who should be influenced. You know,
like there are many people that can, like you said,
influence a person on a very astronomical scale, but today

(15:52):
society is it's the one person that they follow on
social media.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
But whose fathers that the choice? It's a choice that
people make. It's not social media, and social media can
only be so good or only be what it is
by what people put into it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, right, I agree.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I think the more interesting part about it is
that when you have these companies who are willing to
spend billions and millions, it's give you one hundred thousand
just to do one clip because that person's influenced by
whatever it is. That if it's a pair of shoes,
somebody's saying, these are the greatest things since life's pie.
You can't become successful when somebody makes you successful, right,

(16:32):
Nobody would pay attention to any of us if they
weren't listening, if they weren't influenced by what you're saying.
What you know, you don't have to be so much
in the negative of it. I think that it could.
It does have some positivity because you can't always be everywhere,
but there's an opportunity for you to look and say,
you know what, this kind of makes sense for me.
And obviously not everybody can be always telling the truth.

(16:53):
But people live in their own world, So how do
you stop that? How do you make that look as
if it's it's the wrong thing to do, where in reality,
it's just because people want this is what they want,
what they feel like they need at that point in time.
They may not have anybody else in their life to
influence them. You know, there's a foundation for everything. So

(17:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
I was gonna say, I'm not so bothered by the
word influence, but I don't like the word follower, kind
of like with Instagram, and I think that's why I
don't add so many people, because that follower makes it
seem like you're not the leader. I think if it
was like a supporter someone encourager. But the word follower

(17:34):
bothers me more than influence.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
I use it more an entrepreneur. You know, it's at
the end of the day, each individual influencer, but at
the end of the day they're they're entrepreneurs, you know,
I think that word fits more. It's a lot of
people don't realize what the definition of entrepreneur is.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Right.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
They may use as a oh, it is an influencer,
but they are a entrepreneur, you know, at whatever level
they want to take or whatever they do.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
At the end of the day, they work with their
own self.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yes, they used to they used the platform to be
able to gain the success, but at the end of
the day, they're.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Entrepreneurs, right. I agree with that. I mean, and I
can't even say even for my own business when I
was really into it very fully, that was that social
media was very important for me, Yes, because that's how
I was able to connect with people, That's how I
could get the information I wanted for people to be
able to share and mind was based all on business, right,

(18:27):
So that's being an entrepreneur. That was a way that
if I didn't have at that time that social media
I would not have been at the highest level that
I was at because you can't be everywhere, you know.
It's not like back in the old days where I
can remember early on being an entrepreneur you had to
be in the room everywhere in order to get people

(18:47):
to see you. Well, times are different. They're making it
where it's easier. You can virtually do whatever you need
to do, and some people are truly going to look
at you as, oh, you know, you influenced me. I've
been told writing a book, everything you said in that
book this was me. This is my life. So I
can't look at it as being a bad thing when

(19:09):
I know that my whole goal was to provide something positive,
something to share that I've put here. I've put my
personal life on out there for everybody to understand that
you're not alone. These are things you can do, These
are things you can move forward and doing so that
you don't feel is if you have nothing to communicate with,
Because some people don't have somebody sit down and talk to,

(19:31):
and they use this tool as a resource for them.
So honing in I guess that's the part of what
drives me crazy, is.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
The negative connotation that social media brings and the exploitation
of children with social media, the lack of awareness due
to social media.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You can't be a keyboard warrior your whole life. And
I am notorious. I will put my phone somewhere and
I will forget where it happened. This morning, I put
my phone down somewhere.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I was getting ready to come here, and I was like, huh,
where'd it go? But there are people who will have
their phone locked in their hand all the time.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
And then it's what.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Are you sacrificing by being like this? Are you sacrificing
time with your significant other? Are you sacrificing time with
your children? I also think get encroaches on that static
of what does your.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Workday look like.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I don't begrudge anyone the ability to make a dollar,
I truly don't. And if social media platforms are the
equivalent to what advertising in a magazine or newspaper was
back when we were younger, that's great as part of evolution.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
However, where are your lines?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
You have to be able to draw lines and draw
boundaries so that your life is not existing in this
nuanced world of electronics as opposed to what is in
front of you, and you see it all the time
in restaurants. I mean, I'm sure you guys go out
as well with kids and you see kids sitting there
like this, parents aren't talking to them. And I know
this has come up in our previous conversation. How engaged

(21:09):
are you versus being disengaged?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
You started this by saying influencer is not really a
word that it is. But what they do is they
influence good, bad, and different. They whoever has a platform
or creates a platform to talk on the Internet is
an influencer. There's also there are also distructors. They're destructive

(21:38):
or someone says things that are there to stir up nonsense,
and we see that.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I got three great platforms for that one.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
And I want to hear about those platforms because there
are you know, I never used to get on Facebook
because I think that that is something that just gets
me either angry, sad and different instead of seeing things
that are on there that are you know, people that educate,

(22:13):
people that that show how to be an entrepreneur, things
that are constructive versus destructive. And there's more destructive than
there is constructive. So I like the stuff and I'll
listen to the stuff that I have a belief in.
But I still am the only one responsible for correct

(22:34):
that influence either affecting me or making driving me to
be that person that they want me to be, the
hater versus the lover right.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
And that's you at sixty plus years of age. Now
you've got fourteen, you've got twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old,
twenty some odd year old who don't have that foundation yet.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
No, because either they're too young, they haven't been properly
raised to understand the difference between good and bad, because
what they see is.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
What's on their phone. Ye, I agree, those platforms. Go
ahead and talk about those platforms.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
We're gonna we're gonna call it and sounds something like
news where it's nothing more like you go on to
any of the news platforms that they have nowadays, and
the first we're gonna say five things that you see
are nothing but filled with hate and anger and evilness.
And it's like, I don't want to I'm not even

(23:40):
paying attention to this. Yeah, I don't want to be
subject to that any anymore. I'll give a really good
example of hate and anger. I had a former soldier
of mine who posted something online and I was like, well,
did not see that every coming.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Without question anything.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I was like, you're gone, dude, you're gone for my life.
Don't care about you don't care about what you've been through,
but you don't post that on your social media after
what you went through on multiple deployments. And it's just
that type of anger and hate is what fills everything nowadays.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And to me, that's one.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Of those things that annoys me is some of the
keyboard warriors, or I'd like to say was my favorite saying, oh,
the fair weather excuse my language, protesters, right, if you're
gonna like be a fairweather protester, right, And then what
I mean by fairweather protester is that you people who
don't want to be out there when the weather's miserable,

(24:46):
or you wait till you're in school, and then when
school's out and you go home for college, that you're like, oh,
I'm just gonna go home now. No, you're a fair
weather protester. You don't really even really understand or.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Know what you're talking about. So know what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
I'm a little different when I see people who post
things that I don't necessarily agree with, you know, first,
it can be like very triggering, especially if it's against
like your beliefs or what you saw that person to be.
But I'm big on giving people grace, especially if we
have a longer relationship. So if they post something political

(25:27):
or you know, whatever they believe in, I'm like, as
long as you're not targeting me or you know, being
directly offensive to me, I'm more to let it slide.
Unless it's something that is significant, when you're in child
porn or whatever something, Then you know, I'm kind of
giving them grace because you know, we all have our
preferences and all have our biases, and it's okay for

(25:48):
other people to have it too, as long as you're
not imposing on someone else's will to kind of believe
in what they believe too.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So I'm a little different.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
I will let people slide unless it's something that's persistent
that I don't necessarily agree in, you know, then I
would delete them or something. But I think giving people
grace because no one is perfect and we all, you know,
have our challenges and disagreements.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
But that's kind of the way I see it.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
I think it's a it's admirable to give somebody grace,
you know, and there's only so much grace I'm willing
to give people. I will say, there are certain boundaries
I have put to protect myself because being Jewish, obviously
the whole thing with the Gaza and the Palestinians and
the warrant is or in the Middle East and everything
that is very triggering for me. I have family that

(26:36):
live in Israel. I have a very deep rooted connection.
I have very specific beliefs about holding people hostage for
over seven hundred days for torturing, for raping from I've clearly,
even as I say this, I am very passionate about it.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I have no wiggle room for people who are like, oh, well, what.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
About these people or what about No, I'm sorry, it's
not even about unfriending you. I will do remove you
from my existence because clearly you're missing the bigger picture here.
It's like, well, all lives matter, not just black lives. Right,
You're missing the following picture.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yes, all lives do matter, but right now this is
who needs your attention and your affection and your support.
Shut up, stop and focus. I can throw up a.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Jewish lives matter right now and you know what I'm
gonna get either your crickets or well.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
What about the gods?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
What about the Palestinians. First of all, I don't want
to hear it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
It's Jews being arrested for being Jewish, Jews being killed
for being Jewish, a temple being having two people murdered
during the highest holiday of the Jewish year, simply because
they are practicing their faith. Tragic and those are just
things I can't give grace to. And it, I'll say it,

(27:55):
and keeping it does drive me crazy that there are people,
to Chris's point and to your point, who are so divisive,
who are looking.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Almost like God.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Right, it's expression poke the bear, just to see how
much hate they can drive.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Well, yeah, and that's unfortunately. It's happened at every administration,
but this administration more so. And without getting too political,
you know, how is a nation so divided over the
Charlie Kirk incident? And why is it covered that way?

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And why is it you know, h no one should
lose their lives over what they're what they because free
speech is a.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Great right, but I think it comes from you know,
people's roots, just like you said, being Jewish and knowing
your history of where you came from, you know, it's
a stronger hold. Same thing with being African American. We
know where we come from. When you see slavery and
hangings and stuff, it's like it's a passion, you know.
And then for people who maybe had their own person order,

(29:05):
you know, then it's like, oh, we have to stand
up for this person. So now they're you know, holding
on to that. And that's why I think everyone has
their own bias, their own personal beaks because of your experience,
and you have the.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Right like that, you know, whether good or bad, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Know, as came back bring this up.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
I just came back from alab A lot of people
don't realize that here in the.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
States, the United States, that we have.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Freedom of speech, we have some type of degree of
freedom because of the military, you know, a lot of
different people. But a lot of people don't realize that
up in Al Sabrad or that they have a free life.
They don't have to be worried about certain things that
we have to be worried here. It doesn't make a
different Jewish if you're Hispanic, if you're African American, if
you're Asian at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Anywhere you go in the United States, you can feel
that division. Now yep. I went to DC. They used
to go talk to want a security and you can
feel that vibe.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
I went to a I just felt free, free as
totally to me, not about politics, not about black Hispanic
down the door. You have all different type of people.
They doesn't make a different for your phone. Everybody, yes, everybody.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
When I went there, I was the only person that
looked like me that I saw.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Right areas we were. But everybody enjoying life. Everybody. People
know something.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Everybody was saying I hear you and just living life.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
When I came up here back again. I came back
here Thursday night Friday morning.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
You feel that that tension. It's like you can't It's
like should I say this? Should I say that?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Should I? It's sad from the.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Leadership, that's sad, right, but it also the th it
comes from the foundation of who you are. You know,
you don't have to stay. I don't need somebody stand
up at the top telling me you gotta be this
way together. No, who are you If you don't know
who you are and know where that comes from? And
within yourself, you're the one with the problem, because can
nobody make you do anything right? And I think that's

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the bigger problem that we're seeing, is that you have
when you have somebody saying you can all of a
sudden just spew how you feel. No, you've always been
that way. It was just this is giving you the
opportunity to the platform to, as we've been talking to,
get it out right. But you cannot tell me that
you didn't have a choice. Everybody has choices. But if you,

(31:42):
if your foundation believes within yourself that this is who
you are, and you hate that or dislike that person
because of what they look like or what they're saying,
and you don't agree upon it, that's your ignorance. There's
nothing to do with me. You can stand up there
all day long and spill to me that I'm supposed
to hate you because you from the Caribbean and I'm
only from I What kind of stupid shit is that?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
But that's the world we live in because of ignorance.
And until people decide to look at themselves and realize
that I can sit across this table and talk to
you like any other human being, You're never going to
get past that. I can't change ignorance, but I can
stay away from it. I don't have to be a
part of it exactly. Those are the things that drive
me crazy, is that people are so ignorant. They don't

(32:25):
even know they're ignorant. They don't know how to spell
the word.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Have you ever heard, I'm pretty sure everybody's heard the
analogy you always eat with your eyes.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
You eat with your eyes first.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yes, okay, yes, people need to take that analogy and
look be able to look at a beautiful plated dish,
I know, chef thing here, play a dish and put
that into what you see in America today. Don't look
at the hate, look at what the beautifulness of the
people are. So now this brings me back to what

(32:58):
you said. You said earlier is you used the word
community and you said history. Those are two of the
biggest things in this country that we have lost. We
have forgotten about the history of how the United States
came to be, what we fought through to make it.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
But I'm sorry, did I hit the table? What we
what we went through to make it.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And the whole thing behind that is that how it
all started was because a group of people got on
a boat, came across the water as a community, got off,
built a community, and it's like, you know what, we
like this, we like this kind of freedom. We want
to be here and not worry about people coming after
us or being very hateful for us.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
The real story is the real story.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
No King, even though nobody really understands what the heck
they're protesting about, that's.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
The problem, right, And that's part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, So if you people are on the side of
the road with your friggin signs today, shut up, go
home and do some education, Like you have no clue
what you're talking about right now.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't agree with that. I agree with that. I
absolutely do not agree with that. If I'm on the
side of a road protesting for something, one, I'm going
to make sure I fully understand what I'm protesting for.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
Two.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
To that end, if I am willing to risk life
and limb to do that, I damn well better.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
I don't know what have a conviction, and I don't
believe that people are just randomly expressing themselves. When three
point five percent of the population go out on October
eighteenth and say we are not happy with the current administration.
I truly believe that that three point five percent of
the population have strong convictions toward the injustices.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
That are going to get So one of those things
that annoys me is people who don't remember history. Okay,
so we're going to get back to what Louis said about,
you know, us having a military or in the Obama administration,
everyone hated being in the military because he did.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Not take care of us.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
And yet we're here talking about No King's Day and.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's a two different things.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
It's two different things, yes, But why is it that
we want to pick on what currently is versus what
got us here?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So I agree with you about like no Kings because
it's focused on every other poster that was out there, right,
But really, what does it mean versus what they're really
trying to say is that we have we have a
ruler in this country who is taking us down the
road of fascism, totalitarianism, whatever you want to call it.

(35:48):
You know, him saying I'm not a king. You're right,
You're not a king. You're not neither a king nor
a president. You're just a destructive force in a world
today that needs sanity and stability. And what you're doing
is you're putting people out of work and you're you're
you're invoking laws or trying to invoke laws, and you're

(36:11):
taking shit away. So what's different about the military today
than it was in the Obama it's it they're still
feeling the same pain today.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I don't I disagree with that because for me as
a person who served through Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and
I'm old son a bitch, she's my leg delete that
out is that I saw when I first came in,
we were like, oh my god, this is what this

(36:43):
is to me. This is what the army was going
to be like. We were here to get ready to
go to war, to defend this country, plain and simple.
When we did go to war, the first part was, yes,
somebody attacked us, let's go get them, let's go. The
second part should ever happened at all, and yes, we
know where that started. But as it progress, it was like,

(37:05):
we get to engage in the enemy, shoot back, protect ourselves,
come home, and then it can turn into you have
to ask for permission to shoot back and you're still
getting killed and no one's taking care of you.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
You know, it's still getting killed to day and nobody's
being taken care of, not just one person.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Is everybody only focuses on what is today.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You can only but to some degree, you have to
focus on what's going on today, because we're going four
hundred years backwards. We ain't going two days backwards. They're
literally everything that we believe in the try to improve
throughout the years is being taken away with the swipe
of the pen a fucking pin. And that's the part
that bothers me. That's the part that that people are missing.

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One person decided Nope, I don't like this. I'm taking
your history of I don't want you to know shit
about this.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But that happened during the Body administration too, when we
started taking away statues of history. Yeah, but it's actually
a cause. It's actually part of the constitution where if
we remove history, you're removing okay, So.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You're telling me that it's okay to not bring in
the good history to of who people are. All our
history has been hidden and taken away from us for years,
and it continues to go down this path. Nobody gives
a shit about who we are. This country wasn't just
made by one group of people. It's been made by
people that they want to erase. Yes, and it continue

(38:34):
to race. All that man was trying to do was
bring history to people and knowledge to people who need
to understand that we're not alone. These people did this.
It drives me insane to sit down and think about
I know a man who is the general live right
down the street. You're taking this man's name in vain.
You're taking away because of hate, not because he didn't

(38:56):
do something right. It's because of hate. Those are the
things that we're seeing more of today. It's not about
the fact that it's about history. You don't give a
shit about No, this isn't about history. It's about hate.
Every little thing that's going on in this country today
right now is going back hundreds and hundred of years
that we have all tried, whether we all agreed or
not on how it's being done.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
The hate is real.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I agree, and it's it sickens me to have to
see this and feel this and know that I gotta
sit back and explain to my child who's grown. But
at the same token, we have to watch our kids
go through something that our families have been fighting for
for years. You gonna sit here and tell me slavery
didn't exist. How are we gonna take that away? Because

(39:40):
agree with him?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Same thing what you were saying earlier, All these things
that we're trying to say is that. And I get
what you're saying. I understand. I know. I was in
the military too, and I've seen things that despised me
being in the military because my heart couldn't agree with it.
That's the reason why I got out.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'm not gonna go out here and kill nobody. That
just wasn't a part of who I am. So you
have to make those decisions right. And I understand that feeling,
but also coming elements in all the years that I served.
They don't want to take care of me. Why do
I got to fight for something? I know that you
that's been wrong to me and has done and every
day physically medically. I know it's an issue, and they're

(40:20):
telling me, no, we don't want to pay for this.
This didn't happen to you. How did it not happen
to me? It's it's in writing, understand I'm saying. So
if they weren't taking care of you then, and they're serious,
how they trying to take care of you? Now none
of that has changed, and it's still a fight. Now.
Veterans are constantly woring even more and worse predicament because

(40:41):
they're taking all of her stuff away as quickly as
they can. Right, we're fighting for the same shit. You
shouldn't have to fight. That's where I said earlier.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Everyone has their own experience, and you're coming from your
own place of like hurt or injustice that you felt,
whether Jewish, military, being African, American, Italian, Hispanic. You know,
we all have our preferences of what we want to

(41:09):
be better for us. But you know, I think we're
called the United States for a reason. The idea is
that we have to unite together and still move forward somehow.
And that's been hard to do. And over the decades,
you know, that was the civil rights movement and everything
else that's trying to you know, move us forward. But
now we're at a place where everyone is moving backwards.

(41:31):
It's like each group is having their own struggle, and
I think the idea is, how do we pull together
despite our differences to still move forward. Hey, we still love,
we still want health, we still want to you know,
be stable. If we can agree on some of those
things to move forward instead of pushing two three groups backwards,

(41:52):
so we can move forward. That would be the idea,
to have everyone take a step forward. But some don't
want others to move forward. Others think like, well, hey,
you had enough steps, I'm gonna push you backwards, or
hey I used to be in the front, so I
want to be in the front now.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
And that's kind of what's happening.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Well, we're gonna we're gonna go back to where it
looks for for me, everybody get back in line to
where it used to be sixty years ago, seventy years
ago or so. And that wasn't moving us forward. That's
why we changed it to begin with. But if we
can all find a way to, you know, take a
step forward where it's not hurting everyone else, I think

(42:29):
that would be the goal. And that's what drives me
crazy injustice for either side, but I understand it for
for every angle. Maybe that's the therapist in me. Yes,
we wouldn't want to disrespect our military. We don't want
to disrespect you know, the Jews and the glass Hispanics.
But how do we move forward? And yeah, I think

(43:12):
the idea is love, And I know cliche, But if
we could learn to love each other for just being people,
because from the.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Inside, we're all the same.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
And just like you said, judging, we see with our
eyes and we want the best thing. But what is
on the inside. Is it the nutrients? Is it, you know,
what's going to help us grow? And if we could
focus on whatever we eat from the inside, is it
really having helping us to grow? Is it, you know,
making us healthier? And people can make choices for what's
actually going to be good, we would be good. But

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because we make choices from what we see and what
we think and what we heard from previous generations, it's
holding us back and killing our country.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Not being able to keep history as part of history,
I think is a problem. We have to understand that
there's a time and a place for everything. And historically,
when I was younger, I was always told there's two
conversations you never discuss in company politics religion, And what
are the two primary topics that will cause any argument
to ensue?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Politics and religion? And that's what's happening today.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
People are either trying to identify politically, or they're trying
to identify based on religious preference or they're trying to
grab something that that's that speaks to them because that's
what they know. And it's easier for and I don't
like using the word easier, but for lack of a
better word, it's easy for me to hold on an
express hatred than it is for me to express love.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And why is that?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Does love make you weak? It is you being accepting
of somebody else a stigma?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
I think people are uneducated on how to be respectful
and love each other.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, the emotion is definitely a problem, you know, because
people are not emotional or empathetic to other people. Agree, right,
I don't know what fixes that.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
They want to hold on to their identity too.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
I've been attached to this, you know, being African American
all my life or so I've got to put my
foot down. Or I've been attached to you know, this
religion and it doesn't mean you lose it, but you
can still embrace and give grace to other people instead
of just holding in on what you feel like is
you know right or what you felt was wrong to

(45:26):
you back years ago or.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
So, I'm going to put in a different angle. I
hear everybody here everybody's hurting. Let's see everybody like everybody.
That's one thing that I have learned based on the
platform on social media or walking in life on a
regular basis, what impact can we do to other people?

(45:51):
First of all, see people as human being.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's one.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Yep, I don't care where you're from. Second, let's say
hello to somebody. Because I had experienced when I was
coming back from there was this lady. I'm not gonna
say what color, whats It doesn't make a difference that
she was on the wrong side of the bed and

(46:14):
me being me, I like challenge. I was like, how
you doing? You know, I had to break that ice.
But she was able to have a conversation and after
we had the conversation listening to her. But sometimes we
gotta take over eyes of our own self and put

(46:35):
in somebody else because we don't know how people are hurting.
People hurting all different angles, if it's a death, if
it's politic or whatever the case is. But you're saying hello,
having a conversation and say you know what, you're gonna
be okay. Us as people, we are focused more of
what's going on instead of seeing exactly what's happening in

(46:57):
front of us, not going into politics and not going
to this, not going to that, just hey, how you
doing to I was.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Happy when you said hello to me?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You feel special?

Speaker 7 (47:18):
Yes, when you cannot know what that conversation, that thirty second.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Conversation is going to create.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
What we do that on the regular basis right, you
don't treat people as a human being, not as just
what color are you base?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And that's going to make a big difference.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
That's one of my philosophy is on the regular base,
when we go out, how am I going to say
hello to?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Somebody?

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Will say, you know, have a great day, whatever the
case is. I have seen positive result.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Time or even just doing simple things like holding in
the door up for somebody or asking somebody if they
need help, yes, you know yea. It was like, I
don't know, I think it was like last year there
was this old man not it was probably a little
bit older than.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
He was at Lows.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
He was at Lows and he was lifting, he was
putting stuff into his truck and I was like.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
This dude, looks like he's about to collapse. He was
like the man with the suspenders, let me go I'm
getting that for you for Christmas. Carme my suspenders.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
You're not putting let me go, Let me go over
and help him, and he and you would just the
the the life that brought gave it to him, Like
somebody is helping me do this.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
You see me struggling, and he knows of age, like dang,
this is awesome. Like just those things. But on the
flip side, I don't know how many times I've held
the door open for somebody that I didn't know.

Speaker 8 (48:50):
They're just like, yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, you're gonna
be annoyed by it.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I'm gonna show you like you're very welcome, proud.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And they look at you like that totally right.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Yeah to self awareness, that's I like that too, because
I am definitely guilty of when people are like, ma'am,
would you like help one? As a New Yorker, I'm
still not used to being called man. Living in the South.
That's still it's like what, oh, okay, I'm getting better
at that too. But then it's like, oh, do you
want to help lifting this?

Speaker 6 (49:26):
No?

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Would you like me to tell you how much I
can deadlift?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Fin out? Wait? Wait? Attitude wish attitude.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Now now so here comes to things.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That's the one thing that annoys me. My wife said that.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
And my wife does you know she's been doing cross
for for about a year and a half now and
she just deadlifted like one hundred and eighty pounds one
hundred and ninety five pounds the other day.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
But let me tell you, honey.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I can't open this jar.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Can you please help me? It's like he said, you
are strong at the gym, but you are I get you're.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Like trying to open up a jar or something. But yeah,
self awareness is important because you do want to like,
they're not being nasty asking if I need help. They
don't know what if I'm capable or not, And you know,
the gray hair kind of gives it away.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
But that's okay. And being able to self actualize.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
And realize that you have room for growth, I think
is something that you have to be present with all
the time.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, and go ahead, Oh no, I was just gonna say,
I like what you were talking about me is the
fact that just saying hello and you know, the conversation
hanging out lows and just thinking of a story. When
we were out lows a while ago, we were trying
to get some stuff to put together for the outside deck,
and this man, Yeah, and he just literally out of

(50:56):
nowhere to start talking to us, to the point where
we were probably there what thirty forty minutes. I just
had finally walk away and he was still talking.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I can't walk away from a good story, right.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
This guy went through like ship, I mean a lot
of ship, and he was very knowledgeable about things that
I really didn't want to do.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
But if I needed to.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Do them, you needed his story, right.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
So it's like, but we needed we needed to get
out of there.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
It's like an hour later, I'm still having a conversation
with this guy.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
He obviously needed to talk, right.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I don't like to walk away from somebody who I
don't know what pain they're going through.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
That he's not just a chatterbox.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
He's just he needed to communicate the community.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Let me be a Christian, right and not being well,
did you fuck you? I got things to do?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Catholic? What you're Catholic?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Is there the same thing?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
No, educated one of the women in my life, that's
a knock.

Speaker 9 (52:02):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm not the same religious. I'm a good person. So
I use the word Christian Jewish Catholic.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I just said you could believe in Satan and still
be a good person.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I believe in Satan.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Okay, So the things.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Back to the handler. I forgot what I was going
to say, but that's OK.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
I just need I you know, look, I can't walk
away from someone who needs to talk. You know, if
they were talking nonsense, if they were talking to political
or something. But this was somebody's life that they needed
to talk about. And I said, I'm going to listen.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
And you know what, you made that person's day yep.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
And and and then you'll find the person that you
leave you you open the door for and they thank
you for it. I find I when I do that,
I mostly get people to thank me. Then there's people
that are indifferent and just walk through and don't say
a fucking word. And do I get.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
To be what it's like sixteen minutes in my ears
with the so what do you? What do you do?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
The good experience is outweigh the bed. So there are
people say, well, I am going to open the door
for nobody anymore because they don't appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
That's not true, that's not fair.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
The majority of the people appreciate the little things that
you do right, and that's why I continue to do
them as opposed to you know, not doing them right.
But but it does bother me that nobody says something
or they give you that stink eye like what do
you think I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
To hit you? Hit up on it? Hit you or
hit up on you? Right?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Take you out at the door?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, panhandler is annoying me. I said that path so
much like I got it.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Some people are are authentic, but then there's ones where
like you, I literally watched people sit on the side
of the road panhandle and walk over to their car.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Or they had their brain, or they had the latest
iPhone and you know, or the clean shoes and stuff like,
you're not faking me.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I know. Okay, I'm done. So where do you draw
the line on that, right?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Because there are obviously people that are in need and
are are, but but you see so many of them
in your saying self, how do we change this right?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Because either they need to be off the street because they're.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Not really panhandlers. And and an example I'm going to
give is a short example. But when I was in
Manhattan working and I was walking from the pan Am
Building through to forty sixth Street. Through that tunnel, there
was a guy with a cup in his hand. He
looked destitute and and people were just putting money in there,
putting money in there. And then I see him at

(55:02):
Sparks restaurant because you can't forget the face and saying
what is this guy doing here? And he's he's making
bank right, So that that led me to believe that
not everybody out there is.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
But depending on the day you give that dollar versus you.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Walk, you look away and you say, no, where where is?
Where is the Christianity?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
In going back to what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
My father, my father, my mother as have said to me, son,
if you can help a homeless person, do it.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Whatever they do is between them and God. That's great.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
Because if we if we see of and we have
been we have helped people, and we have seen them
walking through their nice car. But at the end of
the day we did the right thing. Whatever they do
after that is between them and God because you can't
control it, can't control And that's a period for me
right now.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
But you know the thing like I've I've tried this,
like I did my own like little social experiment like
some of the panhandles. Yes, I've really done this, and
granted I've done it without the wife and the car
because she'd be like what are you doing? Where I've people,
they'll have their signs and say we need help. I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna give you an address and I have some
work for you to do and then I will pay you. No,

(56:31):
I why don't you just give me the money? Like see,
like you know.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
You still got to be able to work for you
earn your key.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I started doing a different I don't give up money.
I give them food.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, I got.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
People reject me with food like no, no, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I always tell about the story.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah multiple times, absolutely say something, tell you what.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yeah, I was about to say something's gonna be really bad.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
They came back and said, okay, you're gonna give me food. Bough, No,
I don't have a bathroom. I mean, if you really
it makes sense right and some type of degree.

Speaker 9 (57:09):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, I've had that happen to me,
and I always told them the store where my son
and I had at one time we first moved here,
volunteered down in DC at a church.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
You know, we were all back there cooking all this
huge food for so they can get ready to serve
these to the people, you know, who needed help, and
so we get we couldn't even eat the food, but
we had to serve it. I got cussed out that day,
was told I'm not eating the slop, and then I
was like, yeah, I go next door give it. Sure enough,
the same people are cussing us out. We're right next

(57:41):
door eating a hamburger at a very fancy restaurant in
DC that cost them ten times more than what it
would have been to get a meal because it wasn't
good enough for them. So those type of experiences do
make you kind of feel a certain way, right because
you know, you're volunteering, you're giving your time, you're giving
your money, you're giving your whatever you need to because
you're feeling, hey, I can help these people the best

(58:04):
that I can. And then you have then you're literally
getting cussed out in a food line because they to
them it was slop. That It goes to show that
but what we do provide here in America, in this country,
people are abusing the situation right. They're taking it for
granted that that is with everything.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Like, I was just having a conversation with a woman
the other day who she's a newer friend of mine,
and she and I have been chatting and getting to
know each other, and we went for a walk and
we were actually talking about Chris and his time in
the military and coming out and what transitioning was like
and all the normal stuff. And one of the topics

(58:46):
that came up was that her relative worked for the
VA or recently left the VA, but was in claims processing,
and how many of these veterans allegedly are one hundred
percent disabled. Y're trying to get their ratings improved, and
they're perfectly fine. They did not serve in a combat zone,

(59:07):
they did not have any crazy health situation go on.
But because they know how to play the system, they
are now receiving certain benefics. Right, So let me say
that that is something that drives me crazy because I
know what it's like to have a spouse who's having
night terrors and thry it, thrashing around in bed because

(59:30):
of events that happened to him, and have people come
up to me and be.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Like, are you okay? Are you in a domestic violent situation?
Because I'd have black and blues.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
On it and.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Dight not to laugh.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Like, Okay, one time we woke up and I went
downstairs and she had a black eye. I was like,
what the hell happened to you?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
She's like you.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
So I look at.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
This and I'm like, all right, I know what this
situation is, right, and so I can appreciate in it.
And it drives me crazy when I see that those
are the same people who are also double dipping in
working for the government and collecting the double pensions and
they've got these just they're abusing the system. But any
abuse of a system I find a REPREHENSI absolutely if

(01:00:16):
you're capable of work, whatever the work is, as long
as it's honest work, there is nothing that's beneath me.
And like my father always told me, you can go
work your ass at a fast food chain and you
can mop a floor just as well as anybody else.
There is no work that is beneath you. And he's
absolutely right. I can go to a store, I can

(01:00:37):
get a job, and whether I'm making and I obviously
couldn't tell you right now what the going wages to
work at McDonald's, I just don't know or any fast
food chain. There is just a level of ownership and
responsibility where the system should be in place to support
and to help.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Those who genuinely but it shouldn't be permanent. It shouldn't
be permanent, and it shouldn't be abused.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
It's right back to let me tell you. Let me
tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
If I work to soup kitchen and mhmm, somebody would
tell me I might eat this because it looks like slop,
I would have flashback and I'm going to pull out
an m R E and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Give it to you to let me tell your man
that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I know, yeah, believe me, I understand. But I like
my it was a couple I enjoyed and number four
the omelet was good, but like like my corn beef
pashed and the peanut butter. Let's go back to these
lantern bugs. Oh yeah, they're annoying that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
But why do they want to land on me?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
What they like?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
That's the problem because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
When they see that tree that they want to infest.
They just pop off. They said, Hey, I'm not going
to fly on aimlessly because my wings get you can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
See our ring camera.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
I'm going off on these bugs, yes, because they like
to be where I need to be and I don't
like this, and then that drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
But sometimes I see her grabbing the broomline. What are
you going to do that here? I like what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
You are too funny.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
She's doing the Picho routine in the shower.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Oh my god, you are too funny.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
No, you're not win every time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yes, you see and I've only seen like three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Oh no, they're all over. You've got to be looking
for them. Because I was in the cleaners picking up
stuff and this this woman starts screaming outside because the
line goes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Outside screeching, and then she looks at me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Just kill it because it's in the store, right, I'm saying.
And it's just just somebody waiting to drop off their laundry,
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I just started laughing. No, I'm not doing that. You
kill it. I'm not going to kill it. You know
they're killing our trees, and so kill it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Why do you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
And the guy behind the county just.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Ass off, and the woman behind me she just didn't
know what to make of it, because it's like, is
she with you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
But people?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Here we go again. People are on two different extremes.
It's not killing me, and this is the environmentalist on
the other side. But I have to kill it because
they don't want to step on it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
She does not want that karma. That's like, is the
distance you keep.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
A distance from me? I'm fine, but if you invade
my space the lantern bugs, I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Become a ninja with a spider.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
She does not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
You know what she does, Honey, come kill this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
It's a jumping spider.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
You don't jump, I mean kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
You're you're twenty five feet away. It could jump that far.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
You've never walked into a web. I'm like this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah, Now I have to investigate my entire body and
cleanse and scrub because there could be US fighter hiding
somewhere in my hair that is going to end up
like infiltrating my bloodstream.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I don't know when we came in.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
That bee was in the car and he just let
it fly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Out a car.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Trying to get a free.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Get out is hard. It's hard hanging on to the wind.
It was inside.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yeah, did you kill.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Fly away? Open the windows? Kill the pollinators. No, killing
the pollinators, don't kill the pollinators.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
Staying outside in our space. That was in the space,
and the car is in the space.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
You know that is discrimination because if it was a
cat probably.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Be now that would be out to and that's some
s O b over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Listen, you gotta be polite, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
The spider in the car would have the.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Same problemolable talk about the kittens.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Okay, we should dog you'd be okay, depends.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I haven't.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
I'm not big on pet Stead much, but I'm like,
it's just a space, procious the space without invitation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
So I have that issue with people. I don't like
when people invite invade personal space. I don't know why
people do it more now or I'm just more cognizant
of it. But ever stand online and go pay for something.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
And as you're sneaking right upon you literally can smell
their breath.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Oh my god, we hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
We were at a baseball game, and I'm not going
to name the team, but let me tell you we
stood in line because we wanted to be a fang thing.
I don't even know what to call it anymore. I
was gonna say somebody, I know that's very doraritory, but
we were standing in line to get a jersey and
this guy comes up and he was literally six inches

(01:06:24):
from us, and I kept stepping forward. I kept stepping
back right left, just to get him out of the bubble.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
I was like, what is going on with this dude?

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
It was horrible the smell that came off, like he
had breath odor and body odor.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
And it was July and it was a hot that's
a bad company.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
It was, so let me tell you the stench like
we've rather.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Been smelling barroom floor than smelling this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
We were actually taking breaks by stepping the way each
just like gets my birth bro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I was super thinking when we were at the post
office the end of the day and I was like, hey,
did you smell that? What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Well? It was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
He didn't spell, being very cordial too about he had
to come and tell the postmaster that one of the
block boxes was open, right, And I wasn't really sniffing
she she just picked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
And the reason why I could smell it was because
the lady in front of me thought it was me, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
She kept it's my black.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
She moved up and I'm like, why is she keep moving?
I'm not you know, I'm nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Near She was moving up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
She was moving. She was in front of him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I thought she was trying to get contact it was
me and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I'm like, no, it's not me, because it's this guy
is standing next to me. And thing actually didn't state,
but he even though he was some distance, he smelled
so bad. It was so strong, my god, that he
literally walked out and left. But it was it was
really strong. And that was like and as soon as he left,
it was like, it's.

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
Like like I just do not know how people somebody far.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
How bad it is. Yeah, Sometimes you go to area,
you know area and it's like I go, damn, who
is doing that good thing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Today?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
We have a place that we go to right and
across this like literally across the parking lot. We will
come out from this particular place every sophone We're like, man,
better not get tested tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
So strong? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Is it is?

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
You have to have a mean ounce. Yeah, you can
carry with you. But if you go over the anus
is you you know, you go to jail, bud thanks
people smoking in their front yard backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You know, it's like it's nothing like nothing. Yeah see
that I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
It still strikes me so odd. Tell you drive down
the road somebody's puffing in their vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Next to me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
I'm like, oh right, right, I remember doing that in
my twenties. But okay, you grandma.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
I feel I feel sorry for all those people that
will put out of business.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
On the street car.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Yeah, because legal dispensaries, knowing that that ship's not going
to kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
What's not laced with cyanide.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
I don't know where you were getting your ship, but
we never worried about that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
When the bag gave you five joints.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yes, and I can get papers for three roll wide.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Very important.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
I'd be happy more coffee today. I remember I was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
At the point when I was a kid saying, just
bought this nickel bag. I got two joints. What the
hell happened?

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Wow, well, we know what you've been doing in your life.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
One day when we are not on the job, please
take this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Right, I'm not a government employment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Uh, you ain't at me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Just go and just tell her to go outside. Don't
stand down. Win, that's all I gotta exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
That's what thing we'll do is we're all not government people.
Get high, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
When you retire.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
This is something I've never been interested in, so I
don't have that thought.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Never. Nope, I haven't had it for a long period
of time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I haven't had her. I haven't had the thought.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Yes, I haven't had marijuana. In case you didn't know
what we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Thank you, we're glad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Next we're going to have a wine as you should. Mister,
why are you back so soon for your retailt.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Ken's fall?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
My wife threw out my marijuana.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
She said the counter, said the counter was dirty, and
I swept some green stuff. I don't know. I thought
it was a ragano.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I don't know, trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Organize the fridge. Well, that understand why we go through
so much oregano.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Okay, that's pretty good. Don't tell anybody we grow a
lot of it in our backyard.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Great, when the helicopters are flying over exactly the f
t A is going to be there, my gosh. All right, Well,
on that note, on that, I think we have definitely
conquered the world of what drives us crazy for real.
But we all know that we have Father Pesci in
the house because he needs to save us right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Absolutely, I think we all have issues.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
On the things that what is so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You said it?

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Well, because the things that drive us crazy. It started
out with the little things like husband and wife stuff
and people other people's stuff and workers and instances and
stuff like that, which is all great, and it evolved
into a very philosophical discussion about how cool good and evil.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
But but you know I was getting ready to talk
about so we'll have a second or the third one.
You talk about, you know, life after retirement, the things
that are my pet peeves about that, But uh, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Worried about me about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
We started going to the dark side. Uh, I don't
say the dark side. It's about we started.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Talking about influencers, the word influencers YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
We went from inspirational to destructive or somehow how someone
who just says things to stir up stuff and and
and get a rise, and how those things are I
think we all were peeved about that, right, So those
are the things that drive us crazy. How it's shaped

(01:14:05):
where we are today. How influencers today.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Have a.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
How should I say it, a loungterior motive? And if
it could just be I see somebody who.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Wants to tell.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Me how to make a good baked z D versus versus.
But anyway, many things drive us crazy. Right, Some are
very little, they're pet peeves, and others are big. The
hate and the fear, and and that's what we covered.

(01:14:48):
I I I don't know how to leave this without saying, really,
we have educators out there that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Are not really educating but pontificating.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
We have entrepreneurs who sometimes try to tell us good
versus bad, but it doesn't work out. Most of our
posts on social media are hate and hate and violence injustice.

(01:15:20):
We don't see a lot of education on social media,
and we covered that. And I just needed to say
that because it took a good portion of our our
talk today.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Luis's comments about treating people as human beings, treat people
like you would want to be treated. I think that
resonates very well, and I want to not call you
out on it, but I think it made a statement
which we.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
All share here. We have lost our ability to be civil, caring,
empathetic towards others.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
And that's something that I think is very important when
we talk about the things that drive us crazy. It
drives me crazy when I see the destructive force of
those people think and what they do versus what they
can do, and what what what what we want them
to be. And given that, that's all I really need
to say right now, I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
You're gonna start another whole conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I thought we were going there with the retirement after
federal service thing. I was like, Oh, this is gonna
be good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
That will be a new time, that year's time exactly
exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Would you what to do with your life in retirement? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Okay, I definitely appreciate your comments and your summary summarization
of today father past. You appreciate you because we all,
like I said, needed some saving at the end as usual,
you know, I definitely thank you for coming out tonight
and hanging and talking about the things that drive us

(01:17:05):
crazy for our listeners. This is the last one for
the year. If we want to be able to come
back stronger next year, have some more great conversations. We
know that at the end of the years and obviously
here yet, but we really like to take that time off,
of course too, and spend time with our family and
friends towards the end of the year. But this definitely

(01:17:28):
has been a very interesting year. We come together, we're
doing this new podcast unveiled, and it has been beyond
the success I could have thought it could be, you know,
and then having all you guys at the table here
has been special. So for those who are listening, expect
better conversations, expect to possibly see our faces throughout the year,

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Expect more pictures. We're gonna make this a little more lively.
Eventually we will also provide it where people can call
us in. Maybe we'll start doing some live ones having
some true conversation with other people and getting some of
their their questions. So just expect some changes to come
for the new year. Exit Again, we thank you all

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for listening to us tonight, and obviously if you want
to be a guest on this show, please reach out
to me directly at Kimberly at WSBI LC at gmail
dot com. When more of the unveiled podcast shows. Monetary
donations to support the podcast are definitely accepted. You can
do well. I don't do cash up anymore, so we're
gonna take that off off via plate, but definitely do PayPal,

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good pots, tip jar, or you can go directly to
the website at WWWWSBILC dot com to support us. Again,
we want to thank you all for listening to us tonight.
We will be back in the New Year in twenty
twenty six on a Thursday evening setn PM. Just keep
your eyes open when that first new episode comes out,

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but until then be to follow us on iHeartRadio, speaker, YouTube,
or wherever you listen to your podcast. Until then, enjoy
the rest of your evening and good night

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Bye bye, Happy New Year.