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August 5, 2026 30 mins
Bob talks about Abdul El Sayed, Bob reads a RPD press release on the 2 year old killed by her parents, Bob takes a call, talks about Texas issuing a data center moratorium, and the lawsuit by Greece Police Chief Mike Wood against the town over his suspension.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Video, Why I'm all of an eighty. Next news coming
up at eleven thirty, breaking news when it happens anytime.
But first, another hour with Bob Lonsbury starts now on
news radio. Why I'm all of an eighty. Thank you sir,
Good morning, my friend. Thank you so much for tuning in.
It is peering out the window here.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Let me check. A flat out beautiful day for a
radio program. Work and schedule and such a kind of
bitten into my running time here of late, and I
hope to get work done by four or five or
something like that. I have a keen need to go
for a run. It is a beautiful day, and I

(00:36):
want to work up a sweat and remind myself that
I'm alive. This gentleman Abdul al Sayed, who has just
become the Democrat nominee for the United States Senate out
of Michigan. In his press conference just wrapping up, he said,
my race is about who we are as a country.

(01:00):
Michigan will define who we are as a country, and
that may be, that may be true. I think a
lot about the dramatic rise of Muslim candidates and Islamic
priorities in the Democratic Party. Where and how this arose.

(01:25):
I don't think that, I know. It just kind of
seems to have appeared out of nowhere, though I recognize
that nothing appears out of nowhere. Things occur because people
make them occur at any rate. It is it is
clear now that the Democratic Party is the Muslim party

(01:48):
in America, that the good folks of Islam and others
have excuse me, very clearly identified with the Democratic Party,
and the Democratic Party has in a wholehearted fashion embraced Islam.
And you know, it wasn't that long ago that the

(02:10):
Islamic presence in America was marginal as a statistic. It
remains pretty marginal as a percentage. But there, you know,
have been over the last you know, fifteen almost twenty years,
very concentrated, purposeful immigrations. And so there are communities which

(02:33):
are now a Muslim dominated. You find them maybe particularly
in Minnesota and in Michigan. And you know, the excuse me,
this Michigan Senate race could well be a natural platform
for a Muslim senator to arise. And you know that's fine.

(02:59):
We look at through the eyes of American religious pluralism,
which means that be whatever religion you want. We are
culturally a Christian country. We have no established religion, government
sponsored religion. But looking at this exclusively or only through

(03:20):
the eyes of American religious pluralism, where like, oh, you're
a Baptist, you're a Catholic, you're a Presbyterian, We're all good.
We go through life. My aunt's a wic person, and
I went to school with a guy who was a
society of friends. And here is Jim he is Jehovah's witness.

(03:43):
Don't wish him a merry Christmas. I mean, we just
all live our lives and we're all cool with our
different religions. That's American religious pluralism, and that is the
lens through which we have looked at the rise of
Islam in America. Would politely suggests that the conversation of

(04:04):
the topic is more complex than that, and perchance should
be looked at through additional prisms beyond just religious pluralism.
By the way, religious pluralism is a consequence of Christian culture.
Christianity and to a lesser extent, Hinduism are the religious

(04:30):
cultures which tolerate other religions. But that's pretty much the
whole list. In Islam, of course, is by many of
its adherents, and Islam is the second largest religion on
the planet after Christianity. Islam means something different in the

(04:52):
lives of you know, many of its followers than I
think other religions mean in the live of their followers.
That's not the question the sincerity or the faithfulness of
non Muslims. But again, in sort of a modern pluralistic
society like ours, our religion is for those of us

(05:14):
who practice religion, which is, you know, a smaller percentage
than at any point in American history. It's important to us,
but it is not always the end all be all
of our lives. For many Muslims. When you look at
the world population, it's a very different situation. And there
also is the issue of culture beyond just religion, its culture,

(05:40):
and you know, you want to step back and look
at the world. And I would point out that in
Christian nations there is pluralism. In Muslim nations there is not.
And that has been particularly true over over recent years. Now.

(06:02):
Turkey was conceived initially as sort of a modern secular
Muslim society. I think under its a leader of the
last many years, mister Erdigon, it has withdrawn from that
concept a little bit and become a slightly more traditional
Islamic society. But for example, in a Christian society, you

(06:30):
can convert to Islam and you're fine. There will be
no social sanction against you. You know, your grandmother may
not be all that thrilled, but fine, who cares to
do what you want to do. In a Muslim society,
you may not convert to Christianity. You may not. It
is against the law. There is official sanction. There may

(06:55):
be social violence which is enacted against you. There may
be imprisonment or violent physical punishment if you convert to Christianity. Right.
And that's not in some remote corner of some obscure
mountain village, that's in large modern nations, right. And I

(07:21):
think that before America embraces the culture of the rising
Islamic tide, it may well do to look back at
history and the contacts over the years between Islam and Christianity.

(07:41):
And I think that it is, you know, what we
understand of as modernity has arisen out of Christian culture.
And not trying to be a jerk, but a significant
part of what the modern world would call intolerance in
fact has arisen out of Muslim culture in many Muslim nations,

(08:06):
wonderful people everything else. A lot of these countries there
have been, at least in the past, are good friends
and allies and not saying a negative thing about them.
But the Muslim societies are very, very different from American society.

(08:26):
And it is interesting to see the political alliances which
have been created on the left because the partners in
the political alliance of the left, partners with Islam, are
individuals and attitudes that are not only typically not tolerated

(08:47):
in Muslim countries, but most are against the law, and
some face violence from society or from Muslim governments. And
so with the rise of Muslims in Democrat politics in
the United States and the seeming embrace of Islam as

(09:09):
kind of the spirituality of the Democratic Party, I think
it would be good to just ask questions and say, Okay,
where does this train lead and do we want to
go there? And it's not bigoted to ask those questions.
It's not bigoted to wonder about those things. The potential

(09:33):
impact on the one hundreds of millions of people live
in the United States is massive. Right, We again have
been a culturally Christian nation and that has led us
to the prosperity and pluralism and the concept of individual
freedom that is fairly unique in the world. The fear,

(09:54):
the concern, the fair question is, would the permissiveness of
the American culture and people, hey, do what you want
to do? We we are you know, I know people
hate us at the colleges, on the newscasts, but we
are the most tolerant society on the face of the earth.

(10:14):
Could that tolerance be turned against us? And could we
hand the keys of the car to a political culture
that ultimately can you know, only function through oppression? Right,
and the stakes being so high, the freedom of our
children to live as they wish and worship as they wish.

(10:38):
I wonder if it's worth or if we'll ever feel
sufficiently comfortable in our country to have a conversation about
As Islam rises in America, what is the impact of
that on the traditional systems, values, and diversity and tolerance

(10:58):
of our society. Because the countries currently ruled by Islam are,
by the values and standards and experience of American citizens
horrifically oppressive. And you know, I don't think it's out
of line to ask, would we be buying that if

(11:21):
we embrace this Democrat partnership with Islam. Do you have
any thoughts on that? Two two eleven eighty Am I
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And welcome back there. I want to redo you a
portion of a press release from the City of Rochester
Police Department. You've heard on our newscasts about this horrific
situation off Dewey Avenue. A two year old child back
in May horrific injuries. It says here it is alleged

(12:19):
in the criminal complaint that between May eighth, twenty twenty
six and May tenth, twenty twenty six, Joshua Valez and
India Duncan recklessly engaged in conduct that resulted in the
death of two year old Isaiah Valz by subjecting him
to physical abuse, including blunt force trauma to his head.

(12:39):
This prolonged physical abuse caused injuries throughout his body, including
bite marks, bruising, and bleeding to his brain. Additionally, the
defendants delayed obtaining medical treatment for Isaiah, who ultimately died
from his injuries. There's uncertainty as to whether or not
the Joshua as charge in this matter, is the father

(13:03):
of the two year old who was slain. He was
the son of the woman charge in this matter, India Duncan,
And this is heartbreakingly. One more instance, it looks like
mama and mama's boyfriend maybe a baby daddy who knows,
and the death of this little child a summoning of

(13:27):
aid came about, not because, as I understand it, a
call for help from either of these two accused people,
but rather I think that first responders, maybe the fire department,
were at a location responding to a call and were
notified of the health difficulty of the little boy and

(13:52):
again he was in a near death situation, taken to
the hospital where the people I think was at Rochester General.
Uh noticed that on his little two year old body
he had bruises and bite marks. Bite marks he also
had repeatedly sustained blunt. Flor's trauma to the head. Was

(14:16):
that with a fist? Uh? Was it? Uh? With a boot?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
What?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
What? Exactly where did that come from? Robert? I appreciate
your phoning. Welcome to news radio Wham eleven eighty. Hey Babby,
can't ignorance our students. God bless you. Thanks anyway. I uh,
God bless that little baby, and you know, forgive my friends,

(14:45):
but God damn those people who did that to him.
I'm grateful to the you know, the you know, major
crimes folks at the Rochester Police Department who worked to
put this you know and litigation together, gather this evidence.
And I'm grateful to the United States Marshals Violent Filmly

(15:06):
Fugitive Task Force which found these two yesterday and brought
them into custody. The fact is, though they face murder
in the second degree, they both are relatively young people,
and even if convicted, even if given twenty five to life,
they will be out in not that many years, and

(15:28):
they will neither be punished nor will society be protected.
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(17:34):
He says he wants the state to make sure it
works for Texas, and he's going to evaluate regulations and fees.
This is exactly what Kathy Hokel said. This is it
has to be seen as a validation, a justification, a
win for Kathy Hokel, which, of course you know, ticks

(17:54):
me off to no end. I believe that Greg Abbott
is an error in this matter, just as I believe
Governor Hokel is an error in this matter. However, any
criticism of her, she can point over to Abbott now
and say, hey, you're a big Republican guy in a

(18:15):
similarly large state is doing exactly the same thing. So
and that is a pretty good defense on her part.
And I do suspect that this probably removes this as
an issue in the governor's campaign going on now. Probably
Bruce Blakeman, the Republican candidate for governor, wishes that Greg

(18:36):
Abbott hadn't done this. My thinking is that a statewide
year long moratorium is a bad idea. I think you
need to respect local control and I think that you
need to be able to okay, so this phenomenon is occurring.

(18:57):
If you think it needs to be regulated, if you
think any be taxed, then get after it, get it done.
I can't think of very many things that actually take
a year to do. When you arbitrarily pull a number
out of the air, as these two governors have done,
it doesn't in me, that doesn't build confidence. But at

(19:18):
any rate, again just acknowledging that Governor Hokele looks a
lot better on this issue today than she did a
week ago. And if she says I told you so,
you know she probably you know it's a letter. It's
her right this time. So and one other thing I

(19:38):
want to touch on was this lawsuit being brought by
Chief Mike Wood or the allegation by Greece Police Chief
Mike Wood that he's been pushed out. I mean, that's obvious,
and when he was first pushed out, you and I
had a conversation about that. I think that Mike Wood

(19:59):
is a person whose law enforcement career is long and honorable,
and I think that many people think very highly of
him and appreciate the absolute lifetime of service which he
has given to the people of the City of Rochester
and to the people of the town of Greece. I

(20:19):
also recognize that, you know, like old Sister Pelosi said,
elections have consequences, and as a new supervisor came to
the town of Greece, it is not uncommon for department
heads to include police chiefs to be pushed out. Politics

(20:42):
is often done for patronage, and when you push out somebody,
you open up a slot for somebody else, and you
open up patronage positions for yourself. Also, when you change
who the big boss is, especially if you change political party,

(21:03):
you may change governing philosophy. Different personality comes up. It's
not uncommon when the executive in this case the town
supervisor changes. It's not uncommon for, like I said, department
heads to include the police chief to be changed. This

(21:24):
suspension of Mike Wood, I think he deserves better than that. I, however,
don't have, you know, an alternative. It's almost like you
just wish there could have been a conversation or an understanding. Hey, listen, Mike,
you're a great guy, but we're going to a new direction,
and so if I could have your resignation please, And

(21:48):
you know, maybe that did happen or whatever. So here's
my thought. Absolutely, Mike Wood is being pushed out, and
I don't believe that he's probably done a single thing wrong.
We talked about, you know, the deputy chief, Zenaalovic I
mentioned that I can't remember if the number was two

(22:08):
or four times, but I do know that Mike Wood
purposely reached out to senior leaders of the New York
State Police in this region to find out what the
story was on the investigation. I think that Mike Wood
was diligent, did do appropriate professional diligence in you know,
trying to make sure that Xenolovic was a good hire

(22:30):
going after Wood because of Xenolovic's higher I don't think
is justified. But here's a deal. A new boss came in,
they want the chief gone, and this is the form
that takes. And I recognize that the new boss, you know,
has a right to a new chief. I also would

(22:53):
say that Mike Wood has the right to have his
wonderful professional reputation and respected and not besmirched. It's a
when you are a union represented officer, you have a
lot of rights. When you are and at will big boss,

(23:16):
you don't have a lot of rights. And I can
see how that could hurt, that could be bad. So
I sit here offering nothing useful. But I believe that
Jeff McCann has a right to whatever chief he wants.
I also believe that Mike Wood has the right, has

(23:37):
earned the right to be treated honorably and to have
his career both at Greece and Rochester respected for the
genuine public service.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
It was.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
How we do that, how that process is out, I
don't know. I don't know. I hope when it comes
time to make a new chief of the Greece Police
Department that the man we spoke to today, Ryan Parina,
I hope that he's the choice. Whenever an election happens.

(24:08):
There's lots of speculation, and there have been speculation about
a different choice for the Greece Police Department, and I
hope that that doesn't happen. Jeff McCann has thus far
been a person who seemingly is there to do a competent,
professional job based on merit, and I expect and very

(24:31):
much hope that it continues that way. And you know,
I hope that we don't end up with a chief
who is chief because he's friends with somebody or she.
I hope that we end up with the chief who
is competent and will do a great job, and who
is there because of merit. And again, I understand that
personalities and philosophies can be different, and I don't begrudge

(24:53):
a new executive hiring a new chief, you know. But
and again, Ryan Parina, I know his career circumstance, how
many years or whatever, but has seemingly, my every report
i've heard, done an excellent jobs as acting police chief.
And you know, if Mike Wood is to be gone,
and quite obviously he is, you know, I would hope

(25:15):
that acting Chief Ryan Pirena would quickly lose that word
acting and be able to get about uh, you know,
doing his job over how long his years of service
there will be I'll shut up. It's time for listeners
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Yes, Bob, yeah.

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I don't think he would be a bad choice.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
But talk about friends and relatives. Greg Bellow, for instance.
Greg Bellow has another year too, I think as a
Rochester police officer. I don't know if he has any
interest or desire in that, and iout any point bring
it up. Here's the thing, though, Greg Bellow has proven

(28:44):
himself I think to be an extraordinarily effective public communicator.
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Speaker 3 (29:02):
Hello you're Hello, You're on news radio where I'm eleven
eighty Yeah, The truth is that this town needs more
police officers and always had needed more police officers, especially
in the third ward well.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Where the word system that goes back. No one knows
what that is anymore. Here's the thing, yes, but here's
the other thing. Um, nobody wants to be a cop.
And the standards and the process are pretty high and
pretty long. I think we keep the standards high. I

(29:43):
think we could make the process of screening a lot shorter.
But you can't push a rope earlier on. You couldn't
get guys to pick up trash when we talked to
the man from Gates. You go to a diner, they
can't get bite away tables. Police. That's like a hard job.
You can't hardly get people to do that. We live
in the post work America, right They used to have

(30:06):
to import Irishmen and then Italians to be cops. We
might have to import some people to be cops if
we want to safely and completely patrol our streets. I
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