9/08 Hour 4

Bob talks about 9/11, subsidies for single moms, and the Amish.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Breaking news when it happens anytime, and another hour with
Bob Lonsbury starts now on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks, sir.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I appreciate that. Good morning, my friend. Thank you so
much for tuning in. Flat out, beautiful day for a
radio program. Friday night, there was a First Responders 5K
up at the Webster Fireman's Field, and it was an
outstanding show of support, and it was a wonderful opportunity
to see all sorts of folks from the police, fire,

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and medical services out there.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Sharing camaraderie, working up a sweat.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I met one man who's worked an ambulance the streets
of Rochester, Monroe County for 20 years. He was running
his first ever 5K. I saw a couple police officers
out there running who had been wounded.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
In your service.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I saw a class of young police recruits running in
formation with their instructors. I saw a uh, firefighters, some
of them turnout gear running, uh, uh, some of them
with those, uh, uh, air tanks on their back. Uh,
imagine that is a bit of a burden, but there

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was much good spirit and much good cheer. There also
was a gentleman there who had a little display, um,
about September 11th and about the fallen firefighters association or
something like that. And, uh, the deal is, let me
read this thing. The, uh, Yeah, National Fallen Firefighters Foundation.

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But they had a little piece of, you know, a
girder from the World Trade Center. And as you've gone
through life, you've seen those. We have some locally. And
it's always an honor to touch one of those. At
any rate, the guy who was there, he gave me

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a little picture of of a New York City firefighter
who perished on September 11th, Michael Warkola, who was lieutenant
on Ladder 5 FDNY. And the deal is that Lieutenant
Warkola perished with his firefighters on September 11th, two days

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before his scheduled retirement date from the fire department of
the city of New York. And running that race, with
this firefighter's photograph, for me, was a special thing. And
I've been, you know, trying to get my head into
the September 11 time frame, this 25th anniversary coming up.

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To that end, if I could, I'd just like to
share with you some numbers. And there are a bunch
of them. You're not expected to learn them, but you
are expected to feel something. All right? Don't focus on
the words necessarily, but feel something as I speak. The

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plane struck at 8.46 and at 9.02. The first tower
stood burning for 56 minutes, the second for 102 minutes,
and each of them, as they collapsed, each fall took.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Approximately 12 seconds.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Total number killed in attacks in New York City, 2,753.
Number of firefighters and paramedics killed, 343. Number of NYPD
officers killed, 23. Number of Port Authority officers killed, 37.
Number of World Trade Center companies in the towers that

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lost people, 128. Number of employees who died in Tower 1, 1,402.
Number of employees who died in Tower 2, 614. Number
of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald, 658. Can I stop
there for a second? If I recall correctly, Cantor Fitzgerald

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was in the top floors of the first tower hit.
One of the things that occurred is, in the first
tower particularly, when the plane hits, it sealed off all
the downward escape routes. And so everyone on the floors
above the plane was trapped. And they were trapped atop

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what was a jet fuel powered inferno, which very quickly
burned upward and created horrific conditions and situations for these
people who not only died, but they died torturous deaths.
And when you hear and see photographs of those who
leapt from the buildings, it was in very large measure, those,

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especially in the first building struck, who were above the
point of impact, who were being burned alive from the
inside and had only one move outside, and that was
to plummet to their deaths.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
A number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom. 2,343.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks on
September 11th, 115. The ratio of men to women who died,
3 to 1. Age range, which had the greatest number
of people killed on September 11th, 35 to 39.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Bodies found intact, 291. 291 out of 2,753.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Remains found, 21,906. People were torn apart. Number of families
who got no remains, 1,717. Estimated units of blood donated
to the New York Blood Center, 36,000. Total units of
donated blood.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Actually used, 258.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Number of people who lost a spouse or partner in
the attacks, 1,609. Estimated number of children who lost a parent, 3,051.
Percentages of Americans who knew someone hurt or killed in
the attacks, 20. FDNY retirements January to July of 2001, 274.
FDNY retirements January to July of 2002, 661. Number of

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firefighters on leave for respiratory problems by January 2002, 300.
Number of funerals attended by Rudy Giuliani in 2001, 200.
Number of FDNY vehicles destroyed, 98. Tons of debris removed
from site, 1.8 million. Days fires continued to burn after

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the attack, 99. Jobs lost in New York owing to
the attacks, 146,100. Days the New York Stock Exchange was closed, 6.
Point drop in the Dow Jones Industrial Average when the
New York Stock Exchange reopened, 684. Days after 9-11 that

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the U.S. began bombing Afghanistan, 26. Total number of civil
rights complaints reported to the Council on American-Islamic Relations nationwide
from 2002 to 2008, 12,962.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Economic loss to New.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
York in the month after the attacks, $ 105 billion. Estimated
cost of cleanup, $ 600 million.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
It goes.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
On here.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
The rest of it mostly has to do with money
and such like that. Estimated number of New Yorkers suffering
from post-traumatic stress disorder as.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
A result of 9-11, 422,000.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Anyway, not to overdo those things or to be maudlin,
but just a reminder that a horrible evil, an act
of war, was committed against us. And it was committed
on the basis of religious reasons. It was committed by
people who were motivated by their Muslim faith. Do they
represent all Muslims?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Obviously not.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Muslim is a various and divided religion. But it is
clear that that the attitudes demonstrated by the terrorists who
attacked us are represented by tens if not hundreds of millions,
or rather are representative of tens if not hundreds of
millions of Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere. That's

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a simple, undeniable fact. Why did they attack us? Because
we weren't Muslim. Because we were Christian. Because some of
us were Jews. Because we are a pluralistic society. because
we have freedom of choice, to include freedom of moral choice,
because some of us are gay, because women are allowed

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to be educated, because women are not required to be
covered up, because we live a life that is repugnant
of being governed by Sharia law. We were killed because
we were incompatible with their religious faith, right? It was

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an act of attempted religious conquest. And, you know, I
know we're supposed to call it something different, and we're
supposed to say, well, this is, you know, American imperialism.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But that's all bullcrap, right?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
This came from the darkest, most demonic recesses of guttered minds,
people who thought that God wanted them to kill. Well,
if you think that your God wants you to kill
other people, your God is not God.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Your God is the devil.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
And we knew that and saw that and heartbreakingly experienced
that 25 years ago. And we cannot forget it at
this late stage and juncture.

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Has submitted a draft plan for a change in policy.
This comes about as a suggestion from J.D. Vance. The
federal government has a program wherein it pays daycare for

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single mothers. That's essentially what it does. And it's been
that way for a long time. And the goal is
to help single mothers go to college or go to
work or whatever else like that.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And so.
It creates this payout to single mothers.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, J.D.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Vance makes the observation, as you and I have over
the years, that our government seems to reward certain behaviors
and punish others. When it comes to family, if two
people get together and the lady gets pregnant, if she

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stays single, then the government has a broad array of
social welfare benefits that it will give her. If she
and the gentleman marry, then those benefits are largely denied them.
So if you get pregnant and don't get married, you

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get money. If you get pregnant and do get married,
you don't get money. And it's been that way for
quite a while now. And, of course, the unfortunate reality
is that we have, in many people on public assistance,
we have all but destroyed the nuclear family of mom, dad,

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and the kids. And you literally have out-of-wedlock birth rates
in some areas that are 60%, 70%, 80% children born out-of-wedlock. And,
you know, that leads to social pathologies. Unfortunately, the children
born out of wedlock, and I was one, mathematically are

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dramatically more likely to have failed education, to not, you know,
fit in well socially, end up lifelong welfare dependents, have
criminal contacts, and have very poor relationship formation themselves later
in life.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
So What J.D.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Vance says is, why don't we subsidize, if you're going
to subsidize people, why don't we subsidize popular or positive
behavior and stop subsidizing only negative behavior?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
So J.D.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Vance says, why don't we, if a man and woman
are married and mom stays home to be with the kids,
why don't we subsidize that? And so the Trump administration
has a draft plan that would create a $ 9, 000 tax
credit for stay-at-home moms. Now, you say, what about stay-at-home dads?

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I haven't seen any verbiage on that, but one presumes
that it would go either way, or you'd get into
gender discrimination issues. But the intent and purpose is we'd
like mom and dad to be married, and if one
of them wants to stay home with the kids, we
want to help make that possible. If we say to taxpayers,

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you must pay daycare for one lady to go to school.
Why would you not make a similar subsidy so that
another lady could stay home? And to be honest with you,
you know, at my core, I wish we would stop
subsidizing everybody for everything, right? Live your own damn life

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and pick up the tab yourself. But we don't live
in that world right now. And so, in a government
where for decades, if you fail, we give you money.
If you succeed, we take more money from you. If
you don't have a family, we give you money. If
you do have a family, we don't give you money.

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And then we get all surprised when nobody has families anymore.
And how long, how many years have you had ads
on this station in years past where, hi, my granddaughter
takes care of me and she gets paid for doing it? Well,
if the Medicaid people think that's a good idea, then
why wouldn't they think it would be a good idea
for a mother to provide care for her own children?

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If you're willing to pay to have somebody else watch
that lady's kids, why wouldn't you be willing to pay
to have that lady watch her own kids? And again, ideally,
that ought to be coming all of it out of
the family pocket. But it's not for the daycare. And again,
To be honest with you, I think this is a
good idea. And I think that it would be good

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There is a man whose roots are in Rochester who
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His mom and dad came here in the mid-70s after

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the Vietnam War as teenagers. He went to high school,
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Andrew Nguyen, uh, a son of Rochester. I'd like to
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about him for years as I have, uh, as I have,

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you know, driven back and forth down to our little
camp in Livingston County, I'm sorry, in Allegheny County, I
have driven by this, it's, I don't know, produce stand.
It's a wagon, four wheels, and a flatbed and little
roof over top. And there'll be different bits of produce

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stacked there at any one time. Right now, they've started
bringing the pumpkins and the squash and the gourds. They
got some tomatoes, some peppers, and the sweet corn at
the end of the season. At any rate, I stop
in there, and they'll have something. And yesterday, it's a
Gelser's produce. I think it's how you pronounce it.

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It's in Dalton. And yesterday, I stopped.

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By, and there's a man over there, and he's like
holding a baby in one arm, and in the other arm,
he's kind of like a, organizing things sort of in
a proprietary fashion.

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So I asked the man, is this your place? And
in fact, it was.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
They're dairy farmers and they work pretty hard. Milk What
90 had a cattle, which is, you know, used to
be really good size. Now it's really tiny, but they're
going after it. And they do a lot of row
crops and they have put in stuff to grow for

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the produce at this stand. And it's always busy. and
I know it's put a lot of food on our table.
And at any rate, I was grateful to see him
yesterday because it was a chance to thank him for
the hard work that he and his family do, again,
growing that produce for us.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I also, Saturday.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know, my daughter Sophie and her family, they moved
up here. My daughter Hannah and her family were up
visiting from Westchester County. Hannah and I ran the Oak
Tree Half Marathon on Sunday. And at any rate, I
want to stop off and get some Amish donuts. And
there's another Amish family not far from there down towards

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Dansville that has a wonderful produce farm that they run.
And I wanted to get some corn on the cob
for the visitors. And so it just struck me that
I want to, and I'll figure out how to do this.
But by this weekend, I want to figure out on
Facebook how to tell you, if you'd like to get there,

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exactly how to get to the Amish donut place. And
then exactly how to get to this other Amish family
where they grow such wonderful produce.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
One, I think you'll like the stuff they have.

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Two....

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Driving into the beautiful countryside of our region.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is always a joy. Here's the thing. We live in
one of the prettiest dang places. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
What town or what village or out in the country.
We live in a beautiful place. And especially this time
of year where, you know, summer is full and ripe
and autumn is just tap, tap, tapping a few yellow
or red.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Leaves here or there.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
To drive across the countryside on a clear day and
to see these farms, the ones not yet despoiled by
the solar projects or the big wind turbines, to see
this beauty is inspiring. Anyway, I'm going to figure out,
my wife will be the one who figures it out.
She knows how to put those little pins on maps
and figure out instructions. But I'll post on Facebook how

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to find the Amish Bakery. It's in Livingston County. if
you live up in Monroe County, it'd be like a
45 minute drive for you. Um, but I think it's
a drive you'd enjoy. And these Amish people, um, are
overwhelmingly such wonderful folks. If you're ever driving out there
and you see somebody who's got a roadside stand or

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something like that, uh, I would sure stop in. Um,
you know, it may be a little socially awkward. You
and they live in different worlds, but, uh, you and
they have the same heart. Just good people dress differently
is the only thing. And our vehicles have radio and
theirs don't. So at any rate, I'll post something. But

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it was, as I'm standing there talking to the young
man who sells the donuts, and as I went off
and checked in on the family with the produce, it's
wonderful to see. And one other point I'd make, the
Amish take farms and land that had been neglected and

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forgotten and turn it into like a Garden of Eden.
Faith and hard work will accomplish anything. This produce family,
I'll find out the name of their market and whatever,
but the land where they live used to be just
kind of an ugly, overgrown, useless hillside. There was nothing

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on it. And, uh, it, it was nothing to recommend it.
And they got this property and they went to work
on it. And now it seems like almost every square
foot of it is cultivated in incredibly loving and fruitful fashion.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
And who is it?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's mom, dad, and their big pass like kids. And
you ever see them, um, and they never look tired. Uh,
they never complain. There's always a big smile. How nice
to see you. And there's an enthusiasm about the work
they do. Um, And these are folks off their little
farm who are feeding hundreds of others. And for whatever reason,

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that all inspires me. And I rejoice in the lifestyle
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Republicans and 39% Democrats. I guess they forgot. Yeah.

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I guess they forgot how great this country is. It
pains me to know that those numbers are real. Whether
it's been a betrayal in our school system, in our politics,
have we simply become so spoiled by the blessings we
have that we take them for granted and even resent
them I don't get it. You and I are the

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most blessed people walking the face of this earth. And
yet you and I are often the least grateful people
walking this earth. And those blessings for which you are
not grateful are typically not blessings you long retain.

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I got a shotgun rifle and a four-wheel drive, and
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Welcome.

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Hello.

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Maybe Lake Ontario is transgender.

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Today identifies as Lake America, and tomorrow it'll be Lake Ontario.

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Why not? Why not? Isn't it really its choice and
not ours to make? Okay.

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We'll get a crew of surgeons from Strong out there
to cut its tallywhacker off, if that.

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Helps in any way. Hello?

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Yes, sir.

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Yeah, older brother from another mother.

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You guys ought to lose that EV company.

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That you and your sponsor were there before. We all
get attacked.

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Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Freedom to choose is what we're about. Compulsion is what
we all resist. The government can go F itself when
it tells me I have to buy an EV. But
if I look at it and it makes sense to
me and I want to buy an EV, then that's
my business. But those are two horses of a different color.

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PSA, friends don't let friends drive Chevy full-size pickup trucks
with four-cylinder engines.

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I don't know your thing with Chevys, but I see
a whole lot of them running down the road every day.
They look awful nice. They seem to be functioning fine.
And the ladies and gentlemen behind the wheel look pretty satisfied.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I recently discovered that you can grow your own vegetables.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Like we learned in school, you just plant the five sisters.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Isn't it three sisters? Have we adopted some? It's squash, corn,
and beans.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
And here's the difference.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
People across both continents of the Americas, North and South America,
would often plant those in combination. They observed or deduced anciently–
that those three things kind of work together to grow
awfully well. I was just talking this weekend. If I
ever retire and just have time to live the way
I want, I'm going to do a garden one year,

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a very large one, that's all based on that three
sisters plan, where you put the corn and the squash
and the beans. all together growing in there. You know
what I'm saying? Like in one hill. And I think
it works out awfully well. I would, if we're going
to have five, I would add potatoes, also an American invention.
And yeah, the squash, I'd leave that. And here's the thing,

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I would take the three sisters, plus potatoes, plus the turkey,
and I would eat the rest of my life very nutritiously,
on species indigenous to the Americas.

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All right, I think that's enough of that dull crap.

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God bless you.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Keep your chin up, and God bless the United States
of America.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
News is next.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Then you and I will be back here tomorrow morning,
8 till noon, on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
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