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September 10, 2026 • 30 mins
Bob talks about the criminal justice system, Deidre Henderson, and Bill Nojay.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, skies, humidity, that's going to drop back as we
progress through the day today. High temperatures today in the
mid to upper 70s. Going into tonight, clearing skies and
a cooler night will drop down to the low to
mid 50s. And for tomorrow, plenty of sunshine with highs
in the lower 70s. From the 13 WHAM Weather Authority.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm meteorologist Marty Snyder.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
On Rochester's news, weather, and traffic station, NewsRadio Web 1180.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Downtown, we have mainly sunny skies right now and 69 degrees.
It is 67 in Chi-Li.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
It's 8.02 on Rochester's Source. For breaking news, weather, and traffic,
NewsRadio Web 1180. Rochester police are probing a late-night shooting.
They say an 18-year-old man was dropped off at Rochester
General with a gunshot wound to the leg just about
10.30 last night. He is expected to live. So far,
investigators don't know where the shooting actually happened. An RPD

(00:53):
has yet to make an arrest.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Meantime, a Rochester man lucky to be okay after his
car was hit by gunfire last night. Police said it
happened shortly before 10 o'clock on East Avenue near Winton Road.
The 37-year-old man was inside the car at the time
but was not hurt. No arrests have been made there.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Fire crews are fighting a three-alarm blaze at this hour
in Ontario County. Richmond Fire Department reports multiple buildings burning
on West Lake Road near Lake Ends Lane. Road closures
in place right now. Drivers are urged to avoid the area.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
The driver last summer is deadly through a tour bus
crash will avoid more jail time. 56-year-old Ben Shaw was
sentenced to probation and community service after pleading guilty to
five counts of criminally negligent homicide. Genesee County District Attorney
Kevin Finnell argued that some jail time was warranted because
five people died in that crash.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Because of the terrible loss of life. By itself, there's
really no sentence that can account for that. But that's
why I recommended an incarcerative sentence as some consequence, some
real consequence.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Zhao admitted he was reaching for a loose water bottle
when the bus overturned in August of last year.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Surveillance video has become a major focus in the murder
trial of brothers Luis and Julio Soriano. The two are
accused of torturing and killing a family of four in
Irondequoit and setting eight fires inside the home to cover
it up. Prosecutors say ring camera footage shows the two
masked men entering the Knapp Avenue home. And video from

(02:21):
inside the home shows Framio Valdi being kicked in the head.
And investigators testified phone records place Luis Soriano near the
home that night.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Elsewhere, an apparent near-miss for a plane carrying the president
of Ukraine.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
The incident was revealed by the prime minister of Norway,
Jonas Garstora, telling his country's state broadcaster that a plane
carrying Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky was nearly hit by a
drone as it took off from Moldova. The two men
met to discuss potential support for Ukraine's air defences. Moldovan
police say a Russian drone crashed in a sunflower field

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on Tuesday but caused no casualties. The country closed airspace
for a time, delaying President Zelensky's departure. The drone had
passed through NATO member Romania, causing Moldova and Spain to
scramble forces in response. Jonathan Savage, Fox News.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And a new study shows walking at a faster pace
can make up for a lower step count when it
comes to reducing risk of early death. Researchers at Monash
University and the University of Sydney looked at the intensity
of the steps in a study of about 65,000 middle-aged adults,
and it concluded the chances of early death were a
lot lower with those doing 5,000 to 7,500 daily steps
at a lower stepping pace. But the risk of early

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death was also lowered about the same in those doing
under 5,000 daily steps, but at a higher pace of stepping.
NewsRadio WAM, 1180 Time, now 8.05. Thanks for listening to
the morning news.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
And here he is, the star of our show, Bob
Lunsbury on NewsRadio WAM, 1180.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Good work, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Good morning, Rochester. I think
you ought to walk like you're going someplace. This lollygagging
thing does not impress me. If you are going down
the sidewalk, if you're crossing the parking lot, if you're
in the store, Walk like you're going someplace, right? Walk
like you got some intention to you, like you have
a purpose, right? I am doing something. I need to

(04:09):
get someplace. And so I'm going to move along. I
think that that's good for you in a variety of ways. Obviously,
it is just a little bit more vigorous, which requires
just a little more exertion, which is good for your
heart and your lungs and your muscles and all that
other stuff. Also, I think it communicates something to the
world around you, right? I'm not here to half-ass it.

(04:32):
I'm here to get stuff done. That ought to be
the message we send. That ought to be the people
we are, right? Lollygagging doesn't serve anybody. And lop-de-do, lop-de-do,
kind of ambling down the sidewalk. I don't get, a
long time ago, there was a girl I stopped dating.
We would go for walks at the end of her day,

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my day, and we would set off side by side
on the sidewalk. And I was moving along. Let's get someplace, right?
And she had a French background, and she would always say, doucement, doucement,
which is slower, slower. Doucement, doucement. You know, here's the deal.
There are times and situations I'm sure where slower is fine,

(05:17):
but we're on the sidewalk. We're going someplace. Let's freaking
get there. Now, some might say that it was my
attitude that was defective. Personally, I've never considered that option
under any circumstance whatsoever. Perchance you've caught that in the nature, tenor,
and spirit of the broadcast. But again, my advice, and
I say this to my children and try to quietly

(05:39):
set the example, walk like you're going someplace, right? Walk
like you got some purpose in life. Look like you're
a person who's about your business. And the thing is
that That sets a good image for you. I mean,
you show the world a better face that way. And
the thing is that in the spirit of fake it

(06:01):
till you make it, when you walk like you're going someplace,
son of a gun, after a while, it turns out
that you are going someplace, right? Walk like you got
something to do. Pretty soon, it turns out that you
do have something to do. And you do become purposeful.
Life should be purposeful. What am I doing, right? And

(06:23):
let's get after doing it. Life is a finite experience,
all right? Do not be pissing away moments here and there. Now,
I'm not saying that, you know, everything's got to be
100 miles an hour. And I do understand and respect
the value of reflective moments. And there are situations and
places where just stopping and smelling the roses can be useful.

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But let's keep that to a minimum, okay? But like
you're out on a hike or something like that, or
you see a pretty cloud or there's a nice sunset,
or you're looking over there and there's like a mom
and dad and they're smiling at their child or something.
There are sweet things that you just stop and pause
or maybe savor. And that's good, right? Oh, look, there's

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a raccoon up in the tree or a deer on
the other side of the meadow or Sure, stop, look, relax,
all that stuff. But typically, day to day in life,
get up and get after it. And if the regular
living of life is going to be part of your
fitness regimen, and if you're smart, it will be, then

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take advantage of, well, I'm parking the car and I'm
walking up to the front door of Wegmans, okay? Or
I've parked a car and I'm walking in the front
door of work. Or whatever it is, when you're on
your feet, Be going someplace, right? Show a little bit
of vim and vigor, a little bit of attitude, a

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little bit of resolution, a little bit of purpose. And
I think in a variety of ways, physical, mental, social,
I think that helps you. 222-1180, our number. It's time
for Traffic and Weather on the 10s on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
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(08:08):
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It's going to be partly sunny today, high about 75.
Interesting sort of cloud formations going on right now. A
beautiful day in the offing, if you ask me. It is, again,
high 75 forecast, 69 degrees at 811. And you're listening
to News Radio WHAM 1180. Here's the deal. I have

(08:37):
respect for the judicial office. I believe in our court system, right?
I believe that our court system is the best in
the world. Sometimes the people who participate in that court
system are dumber than hell. This will happen in life, okay?

(08:57):
You can have the best system and you have goofballs
sitting in the driver's seat and it's not going to
work out quite the way you'd hope. Here's an illustration
of that. And I'm not trying to be a jerk
or whatever else like that. But we had this sentencing
yesterday of the bus driver over a situation in Pembroke

(09:17):
on the thruway. A sad deal. You had a lot
of largely Chinese people of Chinese heritage. I don't know
whether they are tourists or live in here. I don't
know the deal. But people largely of Chinese heritage. And
they're coming up from New York City. to see Niagara Falls. Now,
why are they doing that? Because it's fun, because it's fascinating,

(09:38):
because it's cool. And here's a tangent, if I could.
When you go to Letchworth Park, or you go to
Niagara Falls, or you go to, I don't know, Watkins Glen,
you go to some of the cool places around here,
and you will disproportionately see people, as you listen to

(09:59):
them speak, and see them who seem to be foreigners, right?
A lot of foreigners. I don't know if they live
in this country or back in some other country, but
disproportionately there are people who aren't speaking English. Why is that?
I think it's because they appreciate things, right? They want

(10:20):
to see cool stuff. Somehow those of us who've been
here all our lives were not as appreciative or maybe
we went once when we were 12 and that was enough.
But I look at those families and I say, I
think they're doing the right thing. And then maybe our
families home on the couch staring at screens, maybe we're

(10:41):
not doing the right thing. So get up and go someplace,
see something cool. And while there, obviously, walk fast. I've
got off on a tangent, and I've changed the spirit,
and I apologize. But this situation in Pembroke, you had
a whole bunch of people who were coming up from
New York City, many of them Chinese. They were coming
to see Niagara Falls, which is one of the wonders

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of the world. It was a spectacular thing to see.
What's your spirit and attitude going to be as you
are on a trip to or from Niagara Falls? It's joyous.
This is like a holiday. You've saved up for this.
You've looked forward to this. You've probably got your family
with you. You're taking your pictures. You're laughing. This is
a great thing. You bought some goofy souvenir. This is

(11:24):
a special time, right? This is something that you're going
to talk about 5, 10, 20, 50 years from now.
Do you remember when you were little and we went
to Niagara Falls? Do you remember that? We couldn't find
a bathroom and we were running around like crazy. We're
not so, anyway, that's what these people were doing. Having
the time of their lives. As we know, it ended tragically.

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A thought on that in just a moment. Take a
break now, though, on NewsRadio.

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Them to crazy towns.

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Those voices in my head.

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glow clouds and a high about 75. It is 69
at 820 and you're listening to NewsRadio WHAM 1180. Talk
about the court system, criminal justice system. You had yesterday

(12:24):
sentencing for this man, Ben Chow, who was a bus
driver out in New York City. Doesn't speak English particularly well.
But then neither do I. You may recall there was
this horrible wreck. He's driving a tour bus of people.
It was a trip out and back from New York
City to Niagara Falls. And this is the story of

(12:48):
the water bottle. He reaches down. He's driving this bus,
a large tour bus at highway speeds. And he reaches down,
diddle fritzing with some water bottle on the floor. And
in so doing, he loses control of the bus, overcorrects,

(13:09):
two significant failures of professional driving there, and the bus
rolls and five people die.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Five people die. Five people whose turn on earth is over,
whose potential to themselves, to their families, and to society
is lost. Five people whose loved ones die. uh, will
mourn them till they themselves, uh, pass away. So, uh,
he had been in jail, uh, awaiting trial, uh, about, uh,

(13:42):
six months, a little bit more. And, uh, he pleads
guilty to the criminy negligent homicide, uh, times five stands
yesterday before, um, uh, Genesee County judge, Melissa Lightcap Cianfrini. And, uh, the, uh,
The prosecution makes its recommendation. The defense makes its recommendation. Prosecution,

(14:04):
the district attorney asked for a prison time. The defense
did not ask for a release, didn't suggest probation. And
the judge gavels down and she turns the guy loose.
He gets five years of probation and time served. And,

(14:28):
you know, the complaint here is that, you know, while
certainly this man did not intend to kill anybody, and
our number is 222-1180, by the way, the man nevertheless
had an obligation to safely, intelligently, professionally operate that tour bus.

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He failed to do that in two regards. He allowed
himself to be distracted from the operation of the bus.
And when a difficulty arose, he overreacted and inappropriately reacted,
causing a wreck which, again repeating, took the lives of
five people. So, you know, I'm not saying that he's

(15:14):
the worst guy on the planet, but I can't deny
and neither can you that those five people are deceased, right? Again,
the loss of their lives for them the loss of
their association for their loved ones. That is not insignificant.
That's not an oops. That's not a mulligan. That is a,

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you failed in your fundamental responsibility. You have met the
standard for the felony crime of criminally negligent homicide. You
have admitted to five counts of that. And that crime
in our society under our law is something which merits
punishment And yet she has imposed no substantive punishment upon him.

(16:03):
I'm not saying lock him up and throw away the key.
But I'm saying to take five lives and not spend
a single day behind the walls of a state prison
just doesn't make sense. It is not justice. It is disappointing.
Also disappointing that this judge, Melissa Leitkamp-Zianfrini, ran with the
endorsement of the Republican Party. We should screen better next time. Chuck,

(16:27):
glad you called. Crap. Check.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
This is NewsRadio AM 1180. Hey, Bob. I'm definitely impressed
with what you talked about.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
All right.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I've got to move on. Remember, we've got a new rule.
I need to remind myself. No callers named Chuck. Not
sure why. And if you are a mother or a
father and you're thinking of naming your child Chuck, you
should probably back out of that right away. Even in
the realm of Charlie Brown, you'll recall that Chuck was
the name used by a small percentage of his associates

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and not his best associates at that. So at any rate,
we will stop because you got old brother Lasky here,
the voice of the Finger Lakes, and he's been busting
his hump to put together a newscast for you. He
will present that next on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

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Hey friends, is your company looking for the future workforce
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like the dog staring at the squirrel, I'm usually distracted.
In the newscast there, Brother Lasky, he mentioned that the
Federal Department of Justice is conducting an investigation... against the

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Lieutenant Governor of Utah, a woman by the name of
Deidre Henderson. This part of an effort by the federal
government to demand from the states their voter rolls unredacted
to include all the information that is contained in the

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voter rolls. In Utah, that's your address, your phone number,
a portion of your Social Security number as well as
your driver's license number. There are 30 states, of which
Utah is one, where the federal government is suing to

(18:26):
secure these voter enrollment records. The argument of Deidre Henderson
and of the other 29 states, she, by the way,
is a Republican, but the argument of Deidre Henderson is
that there is no federal law that authorizes the executive department,

(18:46):
the Trump administration, to request or acquire that information. And
there is a specific, in her case, Utah law, which
forbids or precludes the sharing of that information. So the
argument is you do not have the authority to take

(19:10):
or receive this information And I am forbidden by state
law from sharing this information. Here's the deal. I happen
to know Deidre Henderson. She is a person of extraordinary character.
She is good all day, every day. And she's not
some partisan political trick player. She's just a person who

(19:35):
seeks to do what's right and to be of use
and service to her community. One possible explanation for this
particular targeting of her is that in 2024, she endorsed
early in the electoral process Nikki. Haley for president. And
we do live in a world where, unfortunately, payback does

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sometimes at both the state and federal level motivate investigations
and even prosecutions. So New York, again, is one of
the states that's not giving over the information I favor
the Save America Act or whatever they call that. I
do think you should have to prove your citizenship when

(20:18):
you register. I do think that you should have to
show ID when you vote. But I do recognize that
elections are state matters overwhelmingly. And I do recognize and
accept the assertion that information collected by the state as
it puts together its voter rolls is That information belongs

(20:41):
to the state, right? It is secured from the individual
with a clearly implied air of confidentiality. We're not going
to be giving out your address, this, that, and the other. Now,
here's the thing. Some aspects of voter rolls are public records, right?
Like your address and such like that. And, you know,

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the federal government or the man in the moon could
request that public information and receive it. But voter rolls
and TOTO, which means in their entirety and with all
the information they contain, those typically are considered proprietary information
lawfully held by the states. And, you know, in this situation,

(21:27):
I think that the federal government, the Trump administration, is
barking up the wrong tree and chasing after You know,
in this case with Mrs. Henderson, very decent people. It's
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It is going to be a pleasant day, partly sunny.
And the deal is these clouds are just a little autumnal, right?
This is kind of some of the spectacle that we
see in the fall. And I think it's cool looking.
It's going to be a great day. High about 75.
Very pleasant. 69 the temperature today. at 842, and you're
listening to NewsRadio WHAM 1180. So it was on Facebook first,

(22:29):
and then I think Channel 10 did it as a
social media post, if not a story. And it is
a dead deer on the side of the road. Now,
this is not an uncommon sight around here. And no,
dead animals on the side of the road. God bless
the creatures. And they're very wily and witty at, say,

(22:53):
living in the out-of-doors through the winter and all that stuff.
They engage in the cycle of life and these other things.
But when it comes to crossing the road, a lot
of these woodland creatures, forgive my French, are dumber than hell, right?
This thing looked both ways before crossing. Yeah, they don't
do that. They got kind of an attitude, a chip
on the shoulder. I'm going to cross the road any

(23:14):
damn time I wish. Well, okay, but you're going to
end up on the side of the road in a
very weird yoga position, okay? And there are going to
be a lot of flies circling around your eyes and
your nose and your butthole. That's what's coming for you, Mr. Deere. Anyway, so...
One of these deer gets hit. And then it's one
of those deals too. It used to be when I

(23:36):
was young, a deer got hit. Somebody from the town
highway would go out there and scrape it right up.
When I was young, there was not a lot of
deer just laying on the side of the road. There
were not a lot of deer just laying on the
side of the road. And to be honest with you,
I'm like three or four years old. And I'm thinking,

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that's what I want to be when I grow up.
I want to be the guy who goes around and
picks up the dead animals on the side of the road.
I'm going to keep them in the back of my truck.
I'm going to drive a truck, and I'm going to
have a truck with dead animals in the back, and
there'll be bones and fur, and it will be cool
as hell. I was very young, and I don't think
that anything should be read into this psychologically or anything else.

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I was not as aware then as I am now about, say,
the process of decomposition and the social undesirability of having
long dead animals in the back of your pickup truck.
But I'm just sharing with you one of my dreams
when I was a child. And thank goodness I live
in a country where anyone can chase their dreams. All right.
But there's a deer on the side of the road.

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They don't pick them up anymore. And, you know, summertime,
get run over. But the deal is it went from
being a deer to being like a flat deer. You
know what I'm saying? Flat, dried out, desiccated, just there
on the side of the road. Sometimes, I'll be honest
with you, if a deer's along 390, I'm coming up
or down. If it's there for more than a couple
days or so, I like to start a count. You know,

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I have a small, meaningless life, and this is kind
of exciting for me. How many days and or weeks
was that deer there on the side of the road?
At any rate, you got this dry, dead, desiccated deer
on the side of the road, but it's not quite
on the side. There's a portion of it. I can't
really tell what part, which crossed the white line over

(25:26):
into the driving lane. Okay, not very much. Okay, not
very much. And at any rate, it's apparently line painting season.
And when they come along to paint the lines on
the road, they paint it right over the deer. One,

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this is not the first time this has happened, okay? Two,
I don't believe that the State Department of Transportation actually
does that. I think that's contracted out. Three, I don't know.
You know how you get these long lines and there'll
be a truck and the flashing light and this long
thing sticks out the front. Somebody's driving along and they're

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spraying the lines down on there. Yeah, I don't think
there is a deer removal option on that. At any rate,
I thought it was funny. And whoever paints the lines
on the road is probably getting their butt chewed right now.
But you and I got a chuckle out of it,
so I guess it was worthwhile. Take a break. It's
going to be a great day. This is NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

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It'll be partly Sunday. I think you see that now.
A high about 75 is predicted. It is 69 degrees
at 852, and you're listening to NewsRadio WHAM 1180. Ten
years ago, Bill Nojay, who was a member of the
New York State Assembly, committed suicide. Bill Nojay had been

(27:17):
a prominent person in this community for many long years
before that. He was a Republican. He was very connected politically.
He was a close political ally of a lot of people.
He worked well with David Gant, for example, who was

(27:39):
in those days a powerful Democrat member of the assembly.
I won't go on and on about this, but Bill
Nojay and his sad passing taught me something. And it
is that you never know what's going on inside people.
And I know that sounds trite and simplistic, but I

(28:04):
had known Bill Nojay for years, and we had spoken
closely and personally about a great many subjects for years
and years. He was one of the most intelligent people um,
experienced and plugged in, uh, uh, political people of either party, uh,

(28:26):
in our, uh, region. And, uh, if there was ever
a mystery to be unsolved and, or to be, you know, uh,
solved in regard to, uh, a political issue, uh, Bill
Nojay was the one who knew how to do it. Um,
if there was something locally I was curious about, Bill
Nojay always had an answer. If I was off at

(28:47):
some national convention and, uh, I needed a door opened
or an entree or something like that, Bill Nojay was
the guy who could provide it. He was always optimistic,
always thinking in a positive direction. He was a person
of great achievement and great potential. But he had some weaknesses, apparently. And,

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you know, he gave in to some temptations, it looks like. And,
you know, things sort of festered within him. And then
one day, completely out of the blue, he went up
to his mom and dad's graves and he killed himself.
And the word spread quickly through the local law enforcement community,
at least how I found out. And it was, you know,

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you're kidding me. Is that right? And anyway, people are
very complex. People are also precious. We're supposed to love
them and forgive them. And we're supposed to keep our
eyes open and our hearts open and try to be
supportive and encouraging of each other. You never know what's
going on behind the veil. That's true for every single

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one of us. And sometimes behind that veil, people need
a little help or encouragement. And hopefully somehow we can
get a sense when that's needed, when we are needed,
and maybe we can help provide it. It is time
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