9/10 Hour 2

Bob talks to Alex Tahoe and to callers about 9/11.

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Bob Lonsbury, starting now on NewsRadio WAM, 1180. Thank you
very much, sir. I appreciate that. Good morning, Americans, and hello,
my friend. Like always, it is a delight to be
with you. This is September 10th, and 25 years ago,
this country lived a day and went to bed in

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one world, and it would, the next morning... begin waking
up in a new and different world. This was the
night before the Muslim terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
This was the day that some 3,000 people went to work,

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had dinner with the kids, played some racquetball, watched their
favorite show on TV. called their mom to say hi,
but she didn't pick up. They just live life. And
to pay bills, some went to doctor's appointments, some had
aches and pains, some were enthused about events in life

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that were around the corner. And at any rate, of course,
on that day, 25 years ago, there were a group
of Muslim terrorists who had murder on their mind. believing
they were acting in the name of God, they were
instead doing the work of Satan. And they would plunge

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the world into war. They would slaughter innocent people, some
near 3,000 of them. And they would earn their own
day in infamy. And I suspect their own spot in hell. So,
as tomorrow, the 25th anniversary of this milestone event comes,

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it is an interesting time and you're uncertain how it
will be marked. 25 years is a long time and
a significant percentage of the population, you know, wasn't alive
then or was too young. And so it's like some
distant event of the past and our understanding of it,

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you know, may well depend on what classrooms we've sat
in what politicians we've listened to, whose little YouTube shorts
we've watched. There's been a lot of spin, a lot
of deception about September 11th. A fair percentage of Americans,

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especially young Americans, according to polls, believe that the terrorist attack,
the Muslim terrorist attack, was our fault, that this was
a consequence of American imperialism or colonialism in general or
some kind of hegemony or some whatever like that. Well,

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I was alive then, and that belief, while no doubt
deeply held and again promulgated in a lot of college classrooms,
is absolutely false. This was a crime of bigotry. It
was a crime that was committed, conceived, by men who

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hated people who were different than they were, who didn't
share their religious view, who lived lives that were not
consistent with the shrill, narrow religious views of the men
who would be the perpetrators of this Muslim terrorist attack.
They didn't like us because we were Christian. They didn't

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like us because we were Jews. They didn't like us
because we were free. They didn't like us because we
were prosperous. They didn't like us because we were gay.
They didn't like us because women went to college. They
didn't like us for any number of reasons. It was
our music, our movies. It was our fashions. We were
somehow this evil world and that the only way that

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righteousness could prevail and persist as their satanic misinterpretation of
religion taught them was for us to die. Their hope
was that this bloodletting of the American populace would lead
to some, I don't know, end of the world conflict
in which their religious view would prevail and predominate and

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all would submit to the law of their religion. That
was what this was about. That was what they hoped for.
And again, so twisted and perverted was their sense of religion.
that they thought they were serving God while they did
the handiwork of the devil. There were four planes which

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were hijacked. American Flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles,
United 175 from Boston to Los Angeles, American 77 from
Dulles to LAX, and United 93 from Newark to San Francisco.

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These were all transcontinental flights. These were all flights whose
planes early in those flights would be laden with jet fuel.
And that heavy burden of combustible jet fuel was an
important part of the satanic calculations of these monsters. At

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7.59 a.m. on September 11, 2001, the American Airlines Flight
11 took off At 8.14, it was hijacked. At 8.46,
it was crashed in an act of mass murder into
the North Tower, Tower 1, at the World Trade Center.

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There were five hijackers. There were 76 passengers, 11 crew members.
And as a consequence of the crash into the North Tower,
beyond those aboard the plane, there were 1,402 people who
were killed. United Flight 175 took off from Boston for
Los Angeles at 8.14 a.m., was hijacked at 8.42 a.m.,

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and crashed into the South Tower, Tower 2, at 9.03 a.m. Likewise,
five hijackers, 56 passengers, nine crew, 614 people killed in
the South Tower. American 77 took off out of Dulles,
headed for LAX. It came back upon being hijacked. Takeoff

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time was 8.20, hijack time 8.54, crash into the Pentagon
was at 9.37. Five hijackers, 58 passengers, six crew, 115
American heroes killed on the ground in the Pentagon. Flight 93,
United 93, 7.57, took off from Newark, headed for San

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Francisco at 8.42 a.m., wheels up, 9.28 a.m., hijacked, 10.03 a.m.,
into a field outside Shanksville, Pennsylvania. Four hijackers, 37 passengers,

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seven members of the crew. The total number of lives
lost in New York City was 2,753. That included 343
firefighters or paramedics from the New York City Fire Department,
23 officers from the New York City Police Department, 37
officers from the Port Authority Police Department. That entity hardest

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hit was an employer, a financial services company called Cantor Fitzgerald.
Cantor Fitzgerald's CEO was a man named Howard Ludnick, a
name you recognize. He is currently the United States Secretary
of Commerce. Howard Ludnick was late to work that day.

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It was his son's first day of kindergarten, and he
and Mrs. Lutnick took the little boy to school, and
then Mr. Lutnick headed to work. Because of his late departure,
he was not there when the plane struck. Cantor Fitzgerald's
offices were above the point of impact of the first

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airplane as it hit the North Tower. The stairways and
elevators down were all destroyed the fire, the jet fuel
burned up, and everyone above the point of impact was doomed.
That included Howard Lutnick's brother, who was an executive at

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the company, and 658 employees of that company, several of whom,
many of whom, had been recruited from Hobart and William
Smith Colleges right here in our neck of the woods.
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On September 11th, including what happened on United 93. Flight
93 was hijacked last of all. It impacted last of all.
And that allowed its passengers, through phone calls home and
such like that, to learn about the prior hijackings and

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impacts and allowed the people on board to understand what
it is that the hijackers intended. The belief is that
United 93 was to be crashed into the United States
Capitol dome. The passengers on board decided that they were

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not going to allow their plane and their lives to
be spent in destroying and attacking innocent Americans. And so there,
as you know, was an effort by the passengers to
take back the plane and to spoil or derail the terrorists' plans.

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There were four men who were the prime movers of
this plot or effort to retake the plane. One of them,
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I believe, for two years been the captain of the
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been a national judo champion. Jeremy Glick was 31 years old.
He was Jewish. He was married and living in a small,
beautiful cottage with a three-month-old baby girl married there to his,
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other since they were seven years old. He and his
bride were prom king and prom queen together. at their
high school. Some of his last words to family were, quote,
we're going to rush the hijackers. He, with three others primarily,
who we'll talk about later, did just that. And that

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attempt to destroy the American capital ended with screaming hijackers
shouting over and over again, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar,
as Jeremy Glick and Todd Beamer and Mark Bingham and
Todd Burnett took that plane into the ground and thwarted
that Muslim terrorist attack on the seat of our democracy.

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great Alex Tahoe. Sir, good morning. Welcome to the broadcast.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Good morning, Bob. How are you?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Good, buddy.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Good.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You got bad news, though, huh?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Well, it's not bad news. I mean, it's not good news,
but it's interesting that somebody would take the time to
just go down Main Street. I don't know if they
go down the whole Main Street, but They got the
front doors and the back doors at the restaurant was
super glue. And of course that makes you not be
able to put a key in there. No key, no
door open too much cost too much to break the windows.
So we've got the locksmith coming.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Did you think, was it, someone glued the locks at,
at Nick Tahoe's and are there any other businesses are
that you're aware of that that happened also, sir?

Speaker 6 (15:53):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
The last time, probably about a year ago, they went
from bullshed all the way down to four corners. And, uh,
I don't know what this time I'm going to call
the police and just give them a report after I'm done.
I'm not in town. I'm up in the Adirondacks right now.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
So it's interesting, but got everybody on the way. The
bread company alerted us to it.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Your bread distributor?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, I couldn't get in.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah. So any idea when you guys opened today?

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hopefully, we should be open regular time because the locksmith
was on his way down there about 15 minutes ago.
And once he gets the door open, everybody should be
able to come and go.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
What's the purpose of a crime of that sort?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I guess just knowing that you just closed up everybody
on Main Street makes them laugh or something.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, and again, last time they did do a lot
of businesses. Thus far, we don't yet know if they
did other businesses yet.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, it's an act of maliciousness to screw with somebody
and cause them, you know, chaos and expense for no reason.
That's too bad.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
The only bad thing is, last time, Nicole was working
for a locksmith shop, so it was, you know... Nicole's
his daughter, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah. Well, I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Take a gun, a heat gun, and heat up the.
Lock the cylinder and then push the key in there
and then you can open the door, but you'll never
get the key out again.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I see. Is that what they do or do they
replace the whole lock? How do you do in this situation?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well, they're going to have to replace the whole lock,
but at least that will get them into it because
by being able to open the cylinder, they're able to
pull the cylinder out afterwards.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, I'm sorry that you know about this. I'm sorry
that this has happened. How do folks treat your business
generally otherwise?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Well, we've got a lot of respect from everybody, so
it's nice because it looks like we've got a lot
of eyes watching for us.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, that's good. Alex Tahu from Nick Tahu is there
on West Main Street. Got the locks glued. I'll reach
out to the police department and see if anybody else
got hit as well, sir. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Okay, well, that's okay. It's been great listening to all
your stories about your family this summer.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I appreciate that. I hope you're enjoying yourself up there
in the Adirondacks, my friend. Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
Thanks.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
You bet. That's a great Alex Tahoe at Nick Tahoe's.
Real quick, we talked about, and it's a funny thing.
I don't want to belabor the September 11th matter, nor
do I want to let it pass. There are, the last,
you know, it started last week. I've just wanted to,

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you know, get my mind back into what happened, to
be a witness to it, to make sure that, at
this major milestone, that you and I think about the
things that were most important. There's one thing that I'd
like to say that I've never understood. President Obama declared

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September 11th, he called it Patriots Day, and said that
it was to be a day of national service. And
I don't know if you recall, but President and Mrs.
Obama would often go to homeless shelters or food cupboards
or something like that and volunteer on September 11th, and
that's how they would commemorate it. I see that Mayor

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Mamdani of New York City has also declared it a
day of service and called on people to go do
good deeds at non-profits and such like that. And that's
all good, but that's not what September 11th was about.

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September 11th was a Muslim terrorist attack against unarmed, defenseless
American civilians. I say American civilians. There were citizens of many,
many other nations who were killed that day as well.
It was an attack upon our country, our culture, our

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various faiths, and our civilization. And it was driven by
religious bigotry. That's what happened. It could be seen as
a reminder that we need to keep our guard up.
It could be seen as a reminder that the world
is not all the same and that not all cultures

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can happily, quietly live side by side. It could be
seen as a reminder of what it is that our
fighting men and women spent a quarter century protecting us from.
I look at September 11th and I kind of see the, oh,
this is a day of service when we all go
to the homeless shelter and stock the food cupboards. As

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worthy as those undertakings may be, I almost see that
as a diversion from what the day is really about.
And the day is really about the fact that we
were attacked by bigotry, right? A reminder that that bigotry exists.
It was a threat. It is a threat. And those

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who ignore that threat may well end up its victims.
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Tonight, Rob Finner... This is a difficult day for myself,
for my family. We lost a cousin on September 11th.
He was on the last fire truck that went from
Brooklyn through the towers before the bridges were shut down.

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We also lost.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
One of my husband's very best friends who stood next
to him at our wedding. They were both semi-professional runners.
They raced together. It just, it's painful, and I don't
think that people really do remember. I don't like seeing
the politicians use it as a ploy to, you know,

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get their point across. The burning towers Painful for those
of us that lost people to see posted on Facebook.
And I guess I don't know what the answer is,
but my husband's from Brooklyn. We lived in New York.
I hate seeing the mayor. I can't even say his name. Yeah.

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I hate seeing him in office. I think New York
City has betrayed themselves, betrayed the people who died. My
sister-in-law is Muslim. I have nothing against Muslim people, but
the radical Islamic Muslim people are different from your next-door neighbor.
And I'm sorry, but that's true. People say never forget.

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We can't forget. We can't get it out of our minds.
Our kids were young, but they will still tell you
that that was the worst day of their lives. And
they've lost grandparents and had other things happen, but the
depth of that fear, the frantic phone calls we were making,
trying to reach this one, trying to reach that one,
and seeing the scenes is just burned in our memories.

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Yep.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Bob, thanks for taking my call. And I completely agree
with what you said about there being a diversion. I
was in New York City on the morning of september
eleven i flew in just before the first plane hit
i saw uh... the first uh... after the first point
that i saw what happened i saw people coming together

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that day it's been talked about a lot but everybody
laid aside their politics i saw strangers hugging strangers people
crying together i mean there was a it was it
was shocked and and so for the government in the
president in this mayor well i agree with the previous
color warning mention his name, to say, okay, let's be

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a day of service.

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No.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Don't tell me how to feel on this day, okay?
Don't tell me don't feel this way, don't feel that way.
As Americans, we feel the way we feel, and especially
since I was there, I was walking towards Ground Zero
as people covered in dust and shit were walking past me.
I worked for a company who was less than a
mile from Ground Zero, who played an integral role in

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supplying many products, safety products, et cetera, everything, 24-7, all
of the EMS, the firefighters, everybody in need. And so,
you know, it's a profound day for me. I've got
cousins that were FDNY, one of whom lost his father.
He was the most highly decorated firefighter in all of

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New York City history. He was a fire chief. And
it's very difficult for our family. But, again, politicians... stay
out of our business, don't tell us how to reflect
on that day.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
100%.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well said, sir. David, good morning. This is NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Hi, good morning, Bob.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yes, sir.

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This is David.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Hey, you know, you just had a test on an
emergency broadcast system on your radio, and there was always
a question I had asked, is that when 9-11 hit,
wouldn't it have been a great time to do the
EBS system test, or not a test, but an actual alert,
and get people alerted that What happened? Do you know
why they didn't do that or anything like that?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
The federal government chose not to. The federal government instead
focused very prudently on controlling the airspace and trying to
get an understanding of what was going on. An EAS,
when the government uses radio across the country, stations like ours,

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to speak to the public They have to have something
to say. At that first bit, it was just dawning
on us. We were under attack. We did not know
how broad the attack was. We did not know, is
it one, two, is it three, is it 20, is
it 50? And so I think the United States government

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was responding defensively to protect the homeland. Locally, you had
F-16s out of Syracuse. You had the airspace in the
northeastern United States being controlled out of old Griffith Air
Force Base in Rome. And that's what we did, the
federal government. And I believe that that worked effectively and

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well and was the right move. It's time for news.
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