September 10, 2026 • 33 mins
Bob talks to Fr. William Coffas, about a 9/11 memorial ride, and about measles outbreaks.
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Thanks, sir. I appreciate that.
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your end. Much discussion of late about Fulton J. Sheen,
who was for a time a bishop of the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Rochester, who, as I understand it now,
is in all likelihood on the path to sainthood. Learn
more about Bishop Sheen and about what this process will
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entail and.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What it will mean.
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We're going to be joined by the pastor at Holy
Cross and Mother of Sorrows, Father William Coffis.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sir, good morning and welcome to the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good morning, Bob. How are you doing today?
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Great, sir.
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Yourself?
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Great, thank you.
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I'm glad to hear that.
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Thank you for having me on to talk about Bishop Sheen.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I always appreciate your time, insight, and faith, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Who was Fulton Sheen, please? What should we know about him?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, Bishop Sheen, it's interesting because you wonder what relevance
would a man who lived so long ago, he was
born in 1895, he died in 1979, what relevance does
he have to our time? But he was known, especially
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during the 60s and 50s, known as an amazing evangelist.
And even to this day, He is known for his
books that he wrote. He wrote 66 books, as well
as his famous radio and television shows that he was
the focal point of. And as I say, he was
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able to take very complex theological, spiritual truths in the
Roman Catholic and the Christian tradition and explain them to
the common person. And he was able to connect with
many people throughout his life, but especially through his radio
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and his television shows. In the 1930s and 40s, he
had the Catholic Hour, which is a radio show. It
reached about 40 million people. And then in the 50s
and 60s, he had the famous show, Life is Worth Living.
It was a television show. And that show reached a
peak of 30 million people every week. And he was
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just an amazing communicator of the truth of faith. And
he lived his life in a very disciplined way, but
also in a way that he continually reached out, especially
to the common person, and was able to teach them
about the faith. Many people came into the Catholic Church
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because of Bishop Sheen's talks and his approach.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
His father, William Coffis, from Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrow,
speaking about Fulton Sheen, We might look back today and
see the black and white photographs and say, oh, this
is a guy from the past, as you mentioned. But
for his era, he was cutting-edge technology. He was new media.
He saw the opportunity of radio and television.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And as you said, he.
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Ministered and called to repentance and to the faith, you know,
many millions and tens of millions of people.
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That's huge.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was. And he was able to He was a
brilliant mind, a brilliant thinker. He was a valedictorian of
his high school class. He went on to seminary. He
studied at St. Paul Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota. And
he eventually was ordained a priest of the Diocese of
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Peoria on September 20, 1919. And then he was sent
to study philosophy at the Catholic University in Louvain, Belgium.
He earned a doctorate and then was assigned to teach
at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. And there,
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I think he was there for about 20, 25 years
or so, and his classes were always filled. He had
a way of captivating the students, and I think that
really helped him to become a a great evangelizer. He
was able to teach the students in a way that
held their attention. The other interesting thing of his time
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at Catholic University was he took time out of his
teaching and his research to go to an orphanage every
week to minister to the sisters, the religious sisters who
ran the orphanage, as well as the children in that orphanage.
So he's always had this kind of balance of teaching
but also active ministry. So He's a great example for
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not just priests and religious, but for every person who
wants to know God, and especially those of us in
the Christian tradition who believe in Jesus Christ. I think
it's also important for us to realize that Bishop Sheen,
as he is becoming a blessed, which means that he
led a heroically virtuous life, he lived all the virtues,
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and hopefully someday he'll become a saint of the Catholic Church.
That doesn't mean we worship him. We don't worship the
saints in the Catholic tradition. That's a huge misnomer, misunderstanding
that's out there. We do not worship them. But we
see them as elder brothers and sisters in the faith
and role models that can inspire us and live the
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virtues that they lived in such a beautiful way. It's
similar when we ask a saint to pray for us.
It's similar, like, Bob, if I had a particular need
or vice versa, you and I would say, Father, could
you pray for me? And that is really what the
saints do. They pray for us. They intercede for us
before the throne of God. And God willing, someday he
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will be Saint Fulton Sheen. But as of later this month,
he'll be unknown as Blessed Bishop Fulton Sheen.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
As Father William Coffis of Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrows.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
One thing I've admired, and we're speaking about Fulton Sheen,
who was Bishop of the Diocese of Rochester for a time,
One thing I have admired about him is that he
clearly believed in absolute truth. This is the way it is.
And absolute truth exists. And I appreciate him declaring it.
In our world today, we.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
See less of that. And I think that's unfortunate. It is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think this is where, again, his academic, his philosophical views, background.
He was steeped in the tradition of philosophy and understood
that very well. But the other great thing, and he
certainly did believe in those absolute truths, and he was
able to articulate them, even if it meant that he
would be persecuted and suffer. The other great thing about
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Bishop Sheen was he was always willing to engage. He
was willing to talk to the other person, even though
he knew the other person perhaps disagreed with him. And
so this willingness to engage is a constant tenet in
the life of Bishop Sheen. And sadly, we don't see
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that as much. We're all kind of in our own
little silos. We read our own blogs and our own
favorite people and just prescribe to them. I think constantly
we need to be challenging ourselves and saying, how can
we continue to engage with truth and understand truth but
also engage with one another and have a proactive, healthy, respectful,
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a respectful conversation with each other. And Bishop Sheen epitomized that.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Father William Coffis of Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrows,
he's pastor there. There also, to Fulton Sheen, was a
certain magisterial quality. Maybe it was the era in which
he lived, the clothing relative to his specific position. But
there was an aspect of him that you saw or listened,
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and you felt compelled to respectfully pay attention. There was
a largeness to the man, not pride. There was great
humility and meekness there, but you looked at him and
you said, that's someone I'm supposed to respect.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Absolutely. Yes, he conducted himself in a respectful way. He
realized the power of the visual long before... We fully
appreciated that, as we do these days, through visual technologies
and that. And if you think about the blackboard that
he had on his television show, Life is Worth Living,
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and he wrote in that fancy Parker, you know, purses
and penmanship, and it did, it held people's attention. And
even the set that he designed, there was great thought
of the images, the background images, so that it felt
like a home, so that it felt very professional, too,
but he did have an amazing ability to communicate, even
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without words, but through the visual signs. And that's such
a Catholic aspect, too, of communicating truths, principles, without a
word at all. You think of saints in class, you
think of art. There was a retreat that he gave
to a group of priests at a new chapel when
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he was bishop here, here in Rochester, and it was
probably in the 1970s, I believe, and he was looking
around the chapel, this new, a little more modern-esque chapel,
and he said, where is she? Where is she? And
they're like, Bishop, who are you talking about? Where is
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the image of the Blessed Mother? Because obviously that's an
important part. She is an important part of our Catholic faith.
and they hadn't put in an image of the Blessed
Mother in this chapel yet And so he asked all
the priests, he said, all you priests, I want you
all to contribute something from your wallet so that an
image of the Blessed Mother can be purchased and displayed
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in this chapel. I remember when I was a student
at Beckett Hall back in the day, that statue was
in the chapel, and we would pray before that every night.
So he did. He understood the power of the visual.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah. Even sometimes the way he stood, the way he,
I don't want to say posed, but relative to that,
I'm not Catholic and not inside a lot of Catholic churches.
When I am, it's usually for a funeral or whatever.
But in that quiet time before you sit there and
as you look around, it is. It's a period of
inspiration and instruction just by looking and seeing that the representation,
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sometimes literally, you know, it's, yeah, every.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Opportunity to teach.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Pray with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah. Can you hold on just a moment, please, sir?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I appreciate it.
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That's Father William Coffis of Mother of Sorrows and Holy Cross.
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The pastor at Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrows. We've
been visiting with him. What about Fulton Sheen's time here in.
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Rochester, please, sir?
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Bishop Sheen attended the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s.
And then shortly after the council had finished, he became
the sixth bishop of the Diocese of Rochester. Get this, Bob,
at the age of 71. Not too many 71-year-olds are
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looking for a new job. But he hit the ground running.
He realized that because of the changes in Vatican II,
the policies of the Church, he would have to retire
at 75. So he really only had like four years
to get things accomplished, and he implemented those changes here
in the Diocese of Rochester. He set up a priest
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advisory board. He asked pastors to set up pastoral councils,
which would advise the pastors as they ministered to particular parishes.
He was the first bishop of the Diocese of Rochester
to address a local synagogue in Brighton, which was really
unheard of that a prelate would do that. and he
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established the Bishop Sheen Ecumenical Housing in 1967. He also
took on some very ambitious goals. He publicly criticized Kodak,
Eastman Kodak Company at the time, for discriminatory hiring procedures.
At that time, it was very difficult for African Americans
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to get hired by or be promoted within the Kodak organization.
and he was critical of local businesses who were not
respectful of human rights, such as hiring the ability to work.
It was not all sunshine and roses, that's for sure.
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I think because of that narrow window that he had,
he wanted to get so much accomplished, and even he
would admit that he had serious missteps. One of them
famously is when Bishop Sheen decided to give away the St.
Bridget's Church, which is in the city of Rochester, on St.
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Bridget's Drive, give that away to HUD, the United States government,
for public housing. This is a major concern for Bishop Sheen,
that people did not have sufficient or safe housing in
which to live. And unbeknownst to the pastor of that
parish or the people, Bishop Sheen announced that this action
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would take place, that the church and the property would
be given to public housing. There was a huge outcry
and pushback against that decision, and ultimately Bishop Sheen changed
his mind and rescinded the offer. And this is also
an important thing, that saints or those who are blessed
in the case of Bishop Sheen are not perfect. You know,
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they learn from their missteps, their mistakes, but they're always
centered on Christ. So I think the other question that
I think is also important for us to recognize within
Bishop Sheen's life is how he was able to encounter
people who were desperate or depressed or angry. There's one
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particular story that I heard recently that Bishop Sheen was
accompanying a woman who was overcome with anger. And she
had resentment towards the Church. She had resentment towards especially
the Sacrament of Confession or Reconciliation. And in the course
of their conversation, Bishop Sheen asked the woman, did you
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ever have an abortion? And the woman admitted yes, that
she had had an abortion. And Bishop Sheen accompanied her
and ministered to her. And again, I think this is
such an important thing aspect of Bishop Sheen's life, because
we live in a time where there are so many
people dealing with depression, anxiety, anger, and certainly faith is
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a very important and powerful way to address those realities
in our life.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And through confession, I suspect, and her addressing that with
her spiritual leader there, she was able to resolve it,
and I suspect find redemption and forgiveness and peace in
her mind.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
She did. She was able to lighten her load. And
what a grace. And that's really what faith affords us.
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Amen.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
The ability to deal with these realities.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's why Christ came here. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Father William Coffis, sir, we always appreciate your wisdom and faith.
Thank you so much for telling us about Bishop Sheen today.
We're very grateful, sir.
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Thank you. Take care now.
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On that day, some 3,000 Americans from illnesses acquired seeking
to assist and to clean up the site. Many tens
of thousands of others have passed away as well. In
the war against terrorism that ensued, some 7,000 American troops
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lost their lives. Tomorrow's a big day, a big, big day.
Many ways to commemorate it and remember it. I'm going
to be joined by a couple of gentlemen right now.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I would like to discuss one of those. Gentlemen, please
tell me your names.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I'm Josh Dibble. And I'm Dave Secoria.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's an honor to meet you both. You have an
event coming up Saturday.
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What is it, please?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yes, it's called the We Remember a 9-11 Tribute Concert
and Ride.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
And it'll be where and when and what will it entail, please?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So there's two parts. We have the ride portion of it.
That is actually going to be starting at Late Shore
Hockey Arena. Kickstand up for leaving at 11 o'clock. And
then we will ride the original 9-11 route all the
way out towards Hamlin, Brockport, and then coming back into Greece,
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which is going to go to Barnard Park. At Barnard
is going to be the main event. That's where we'll
have the tribute concert. We have two bands, also an
acoustic set, a lot of DJ vendors. both food and generic.
On top of that, that gate opens up at 12
o'clock for anybody that's not doing the ride. So you
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have the ride. It kickstands up with starting registration at
9 a.m., leaves at 11, and then at Barnard, if
you're not riding, you can join us starting at noon.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Information and sales tickets at nyloh.org. And what is New
York Legacy of Heroes, please?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So New York Wednesday Heroes is a non-profit 501c. We
are all volunteers basically to do any type of tribute
rides or events that help immortalize anything to do with
patriotic here in Rochester.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Dee, now here's the thing, not to use somebody else's name,
but we often think of the Patriot Riders. You're an
organization similar to that?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
So the Patriot Guard riders are the ones that are
actually leading off the ride itself. So we are all
working together to make sure that this memorable event happens.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And, you know, what sort of motorcyclists, what sort of
riders are you looking for? Who would participate in this, please?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So anyone that is, you know, 18 or older, has
an M-Class license and knows how to ride and wants
to participate in this, This great event to show memory
and tribute to all of those that suffered and also
did great things to try to keep everyone safe.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And at the event, which kicks off at noon at
Barnard Exempt, what will be happening there? And it says
there's a memorial ceremony. What will that entail, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, so starting off, like I said, the gates open
at noon. We'll be getting set up. And then at 1.30,
we'll be doing a full ceremony. We'll be doing normal,
going through and doing all the patriotic stuff that we
can do in the beginning. And then that will lead
off to the bands.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, outstanding. And it will go about how long?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It ends at 5 o'clock.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Why is this important?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Why are you doing this, please?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
So we were originally, I own a motorcycle shop called
Twisted Customs and Coatings here in Rochester. We were actually
going to be a sponsor of the original event. The
event got canceled due to unforeseen things. It just, you know,
some things happen. We saw basically all of the comments
and everybody that really wanted to do something to make
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this happen because it's the 25th anniversary. We can't just
let it die. As Americans, we all said that we
would remember and we want to make sure that we
do remember. And that's why we pulled this off in
two months.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Outstanding. NYLOH.org.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is that the place to get tickets and learn more information?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Outstanding. Anything else we should know about this?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Let me ask.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
We're going to have a beautiful day and have a
great tribute. That's all that matters to us right now
is we honor those that were there and we show
that we do remember.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I'm not a motorcyclist. I've never been anything like this.
What does it feel like to be in a long
line of motorcycles in a ride like this with a
message like this?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What's that like?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's hard to explain. There's not really a word for it.
But besides knowing that you're part of honoring those people
and showing, again, it's all about showing we remembered.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I imagine there's a spirit of power and brotherhood, community, patriotism.
I bet it's almost a sacred undertaking for a lot
of people.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's Saturday, starts at 11, and the big event noon
at Barnard Exempt. You can learn more about it, get
through it and such like that, and sign up, purchase
tickets at NYLOH, that stands for New York Legacy of Heroes, nyloh.org.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Gentlemen, thanks so much for putting this together. Thanks for
telling us about it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Thanks for having us, and hopefully we see everybody at
the event.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
100%.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
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There.
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at least, I don't know. That's my take on her.
So I don't disrespect her by any means, but I
would politely say, that I think our public health officials
failed to learn one of the lessons of the COVID matter.
In COVID, and I'm not speaking against doctors, but I'm
just telling you how it was, and you can take
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it or leave it as you will, but you treated
us like sheep, like we were idiots, and that somehow
by telling us little lies to get us to do
what you wanted us to do, you thought that was
the right thing. I don't think that you did that
because you lack character or integrity. I think you did
that because somehow your profession has decided that that's the
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right thing to do. It is, however, not the right
thing to do. And unfortunately, the tremendous loss of confidence
in the health profession has arisen from the fact that
during COVID, you guys lied your asses off and treated
us like.
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Sheep, right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm not being angry with him, just saying, okay, that
didn't work last time.
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Don't do it that way anymore.
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I think there's a little bit of that going on
with the measles right now. The thing is, we have
measles reintroduced. We have people who aren't vaccinated. Overwhelmingly, they
are people who are not vaccinated for religious reasons. And
we have had this influx of illegal aliens over the
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last handful of years. And those people have brought their germs.
You and me, we all take our germs, right? and
so the illegal aliens who weren't screened for health as
they came in, and that brought measles back. Over the
last month or six weeks, we've had across our region
some cases of measles. We've had two undeniable outbreaks, one
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in Seneca County, one in Steuben County.
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And possibly others.
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And we've had now two possible exposures in Monroe County,
one at the Mrs. Slaughter train station and the other
at the strong emergency department. I think that was Friday
night into Saturday morning. And so they have said, oh,
you must, these are unvaccinated people. And they are presenting
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this without any specifics, without any details, in an effort,
I believe, to create fear that, oh my gosh, you
must get your vaccine, you must get your vaccine.
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I believe that these outbreaks.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Have been in Amish or Mennonite communities. I think that
there are– none of the health departments will say so,
but there have been a couple of hints. Health directors
for both Seneca and Monroe counties have referred to communities
of unvaccinated people. I think that the only place that
such a description, if it's accurate, in our region would
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be people who congregate for religious reasons and don't vaccinate
for religious reasons. The overwhelming majority of those people in
our region are folks who are Amish or Mennonite, people
I love and admire, right? And I believe that measles
outbreaks in our region of New York, I honestly believe
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that if any of those were not among Amish or
Mennonite people.
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I'd be very surprised.
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So they don't want to say, oh, it's just Amish
and Mennonite because they think the rest of us are
frigging idiots. And then we won't go get our shots.
And they say, oh, it's in our counties. You need
to get vaccinated. I think that they believe that that
fear will drive us all to the doctor to get
our shots. This is the same sort of manipulation through
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subtle deception or not so subtle deception that went on
during COVID. And that did not impact our behavior, but
it did significantly damage our attitude and it damaged our trust.
for the medical profession and for public health officials. We
need to have trust. We are benefited by trust in
medical professionals and in public health officials. So doing things
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that damage it is not a smart idea. We are
not dummies. And the deal is that, again, the fact
that there's no confirmation of this, but the surmise deduction is, well,
these are people in these unique religious communities. If we
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say that, will that make idiots like you and me
less prone to get ourselves or our children vaccinated? I
personally don't think so, but I personally am someone who
I don't believe in the COVID vaccine because we've seen
that it fails, but I do believe in traditional vaccines.
And I have nine children, all of whom have been
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vaccinated three ways from Sunday, right? And And I think
that as very high measles participation rate in our region shows,
something between 85% and 90%, that's what the overwhelming majority
of us think. But this kind of amorphous threat of,
oh my gosh, it's in Monroe County, you can tell
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us the whole story. You can tell us the truth.
And we have sufficient resources. bandwidth to process that and
understand it and as free people who will then feel
respected by you will be more prone to return that
respect to you and you'll be better able to care
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for us and we'll be better able to benefit by
your medical knowledge and expertise but if you kinda don't
lay it all on the table for us we feel
like you're slicking us or deceiving us and that damages
that trust which diminishes the good that the medical profession
can do for the community.
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your end. Much discussion of late about Fulton J. Sheen,
who was for a time a bishop of the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Rochester, who, as I understand it now,
is in all likelihood on the path to sainthood. Learn
more about Bishop Sheen and about what this process will
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entail and.
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What it will mean.
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We're going to be joined by the pastor at Holy
Cross and Mother of Sorrows, Father William Coffis.
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Sir, good morning and welcome to the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good morning, Bob. How are you doing today?
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Great, sir.
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Yourself?
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Great, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm glad to hear that.
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Thank you for having me on to talk about Bishop Sheen.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I always appreciate your time, insight, and faith, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Who was Fulton Sheen, please? What should we know about him?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, Bishop Sheen, it's interesting because you wonder what relevance
would a man who lived so long ago, he was
born in 1895, he died in 1979, what relevance does
he have to our time? But he was known, especially
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during the 60s and 50s, known as an amazing evangelist.
And even to this day, He is known for his
books that he wrote. He wrote 66 books, as well
as his famous radio and television shows that he was
the focal point of. And as I say, he was
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able to take very complex theological, spiritual truths in the
Roman Catholic and the Christian tradition and explain them to
the common person. And he was able to connect with
many people throughout his life, but especially through his radio
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and his television shows. In the 1930s and 40s, he
had the Catholic Hour, which is a radio show. It
reached about 40 million people. And then in the 50s
and 60s, he had the famous show, Life is Worth Living.
It was a television show. And that show reached a
peak of 30 million people every week. And he was
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just an amazing communicator of the truth of faith. And
he lived his life in a very disciplined way, but
also in a way that he continually reached out, especially
to the common person, and was able to teach them
about the faith. Many people came into the Catholic Church
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because of Bishop Sheen's talks and his approach.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
His father, William Coffis, from Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrow,
speaking about Fulton Sheen, We might look back today and
see the black and white photographs and say, oh, this
is a guy from the past, as you mentioned. But
for his era, he was cutting-edge technology. He was new media.
He saw the opportunity of radio and television.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And as you said, he.
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Ministered and called to repentance and to the faith, you know,
many millions and tens of millions of people.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was. And he was able to He was a
brilliant mind, a brilliant thinker. He was a valedictorian of
his high school class. He went on to seminary. He
studied at St. Paul Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota. And
he eventually was ordained a priest of the Diocese of
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Peoria on September 20, 1919. And then he was sent
to study philosophy at the Catholic University in Louvain, Belgium.
He earned a doctorate and then was assigned to teach
at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. And there,
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I think he was there for about 20, 25 years
or so, and his classes were always filled. He had
a way of captivating the students, and I think that
really helped him to become a a great evangelizer. He
was able to teach the students in a way that
held their attention. The other interesting thing of his time
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at Catholic University was he took time out of his
teaching and his research to go to an orphanage every
week to minister to the sisters, the religious sisters who
ran the orphanage, as well as the children in that orphanage.
So he's always had this kind of balance of teaching
but also active ministry. So He's a great example for
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not just priests and religious, but for every person who
wants to know God, and especially those of us in
the Christian tradition who believe in Jesus Christ. I think
it's also important for us to realize that Bishop Sheen,
as he is becoming a blessed, which means that he
led a heroically virtuous life, he lived all the virtues,
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and hopefully someday he'll become a saint of the Catholic Church.
That doesn't mean we worship him. We don't worship the
saints in the Catholic tradition. That's a huge misnomer, misunderstanding
that's out there. We do not worship them. But we
see them as elder brothers and sisters in the faith
and role models that can inspire us and live the
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virtues that they lived in such a beautiful way. It's
similar when we ask a saint to pray for us.
It's similar, like, Bob, if I had a particular need
or vice versa, you and I would say, Father, could
you pray for me? And that is really what the
saints do. They pray for us. They intercede for us
before the throne of God. And God willing, someday he
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will be Saint Fulton Sheen. But as of later this month,
he'll be unknown as Blessed Bishop Fulton Sheen.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
As Father William Coffis of Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrows.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
One thing I've admired, and we're speaking about Fulton Sheen,
who was Bishop of the Diocese of Rochester for a time,
One thing I have admired about him is that he
clearly believed in absolute truth. This is the way it is.
And absolute truth exists. And I appreciate him declaring it.
In our world today, we.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
See less of that. And I think that's unfortunate. It is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think this is where, again, his academic, his philosophical views, background.
He was steeped in the tradition of philosophy and understood
that very well. But the other great thing, and he
certainly did believe in those absolute truths, and he was
able to articulate them, even if it meant that he
would be persecuted and suffer. The other great thing about
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Bishop Sheen was he was always willing to engage. He
was willing to talk to the other person, even though
he knew the other person perhaps disagreed with him. And
so this willingness to engage is a constant tenet in
the life of Bishop Sheen. And sadly, we don't see
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that as much. We're all kind of in our own
little silos. We read our own blogs and our own
favorite people and just prescribe to them. I think constantly
we need to be challenging ourselves and saying, how can
we continue to engage with truth and understand truth but
also engage with one another and have a proactive, healthy, respectful,
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a respectful conversation with each other. And Bishop Sheen epitomized that.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Father William Coffis of Holy Cross and Mother of Sorrows,
he's pastor there. There also, to Fulton Sheen, was a
certain magisterial quality. Maybe it was the era in which
he lived, the clothing relative to his specific position. But
there was an aspect of him that you saw or listened,
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and you felt compelled to respectfully pay attention. There was
a largeness to the man, not pride. There was great
humility and meekness there, but you looked at him and
you said, that's someone I'm supposed to respect.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Absolutely. Yes, he conducted himself in a respectful way. He
realized the power of the visual long before... We fully
appreciated that, as we do these days, through visual technologies
and that. And if you think about the blackboard that
he had on his television show, Life is Worth Living,
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and he wrote in that fancy Parker, you know, purses
and penmanship, and it did, it held people's attention. And
even the set that he designed, there was great thought
of the images, the background images, so that it felt
like a home, so that it felt very professional, too,
but he did have an amazing ability to communicate, even
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without words, but through the visual signs. And that's such
a Catholic aspect, too, of communicating truths, principles, without a
word at all. You think of saints in class, you
think of art. There was a retreat that he gave
to a group of priests at a new chapel when
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he was bishop here, here in Rochester, and it was
probably in the 1970s, I believe, and he was looking
around the chapel, this new, a little more modern-esque chapel,
and he said, where is she? Where is she? And
they're like, Bishop, who are you talking about? Where is
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the image of the Blessed Mother? Because obviously that's an
important part. She is an important part of our Catholic faith.
and they hadn't put in an image of the Blessed
Mother in this chapel yet And so he asked all
the priests, he said, all you priests, I want you
all to contribute something from your wallet so that an
image of the Blessed Mother can be purchased and displayed
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in this chapel. I remember when I was a student
at Beckett Hall back in the day, that statue was
in the chapel, and we would pray before that every night.
So he did. He understood the power of the visual.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah. Even sometimes the way he stood, the way he,
I don't want to say posed, but relative to that,
I'm not Catholic and not inside a lot of Catholic churches.
When I am, it's usually for a funeral or whatever.
But in that quiet time before you sit there and
as you look around, it is. It's a period of
inspiration and instruction just by looking and seeing that the representation,
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sometimes literally, you know, it's, yeah, every.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Opportunity to teach.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Pray with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah. Can you hold on just a moment, please, sir?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I appreciate it.
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That's Father William Coffis of Mother of Sorrows and Holy Cross.
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Rochester, please, sir?
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Bishop Sheen attended the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s.
And then shortly after the council had finished, he became
the sixth bishop of the Diocese of Rochester. Get this, Bob,
at the age of 71. Not too many 71-year-olds are
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looking for a new job. But he hit the ground running.
He realized that because of the changes in Vatican II,
the policies of the Church, he would have to retire
at 75. So he really only had like four years
to get things accomplished, and he implemented those changes here
in the Diocese of Rochester. He set up a priest
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advisory board. He asked pastors to set up pastoral councils,
which would advise the pastors as they ministered to particular parishes.
He was the first bishop of the Diocese of Rochester
to address a local synagogue in Brighton, which was really
unheard of that a prelate would do that. and he
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established the Bishop Sheen Ecumenical Housing in 1967. He also
took on some very ambitious goals. He publicly criticized Kodak,
Eastman Kodak Company at the time, for discriminatory hiring procedures.
At that time, it was very difficult for African Americans
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to get hired by or be promoted within the Kodak organization.
and he was critical of local businesses who were not
respectful of human rights, such as hiring the ability to work.
It was not all sunshine and roses, that's for sure.
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I think because of that narrow window that he had,
he wanted to get so much accomplished, and even he
would admit that he had serious missteps. One of them
famously is when Bishop Sheen decided to give away the St.
Bridget's Church, which is in the city of Rochester, on St.
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Bridget's Drive, give that away to HUD, the United States government,
for public housing. This is a major concern for Bishop Sheen,
that people did not have sufficient or safe housing in
which to live. And unbeknownst to the pastor of that
parish or the people, Bishop Sheen announced that this action
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would take place, that the church and the property would
be given to public housing. There was a huge outcry
and pushback against that decision, and ultimately Bishop Sheen changed
his mind and rescinded the offer. And this is also
an important thing, that saints or those who are blessed
in the case of Bishop Sheen are not perfect. You know,
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they learn from their missteps, their mistakes, but they're always
centered on Christ. So I think the other question that
I think is also important for us to recognize within
Bishop Sheen's life is how he was able to encounter
people who were desperate or depressed or angry. There's one
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particular story that I heard recently that Bishop Sheen was
accompanying a woman who was overcome with anger. And she
had resentment towards the Church. She had resentment towards especially
the Sacrament of Confession or Reconciliation. And in the course
of their conversation, Bishop Sheen asked the woman, did you
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ever have an abortion? And the woman admitted yes, that
she had had an abortion. And Bishop Sheen accompanied her
and ministered to her. And again, I think this is
such an important thing aspect of Bishop Sheen's life, because
we live in a time where there are so many
people dealing with depression, anxiety, anger, and certainly faith is
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a very important and powerful way to address those realities
in our life.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And through confession, I suspect, and her addressing that with
her spiritual leader there, she was able to resolve it,
and I suspect find redemption and forgiveness and peace in
her mind.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
She did. She was able to lighten her load. And
what a grace. And that's really what faith affords us.
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Amen.
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The ability to deal with these realities.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's why Christ came here. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Father William Coffis, sir, we always appreciate your wisdom and faith.
Thank you so much for telling us about Bishop Sheen today.
We're very grateful, sir.
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Thank you. Take care now.
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Speaker 3 (22:26):
And at the event, which kicks off at noon at
Barnard Exempt, what will be happening there? And it says
there's a memorial ceremony. What will that entail, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, so starting off, like I said, the gates open
at noon. We'll be getting set up. And then at 1.30,
we'll be doing a full ceremony. We'll be doing normal,
going through and doing all the patriotic stuff that we
can do in the beginning. And then that will lead
off to the bands.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, outstanding. And it will go about how long?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It ends at 5 o'clock.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Why is this important?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Why are you doing this, please?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
So we were originally, I own a motorcycle shop called
Twisted Customs and Coatings here in Rochester. We were actually
going to be a sponsor of the original event. The
event got canceled due to unforeseen things. It just, you know,
some things happen. We saw basically all of the comments
and everybody that really wanted to do something to make
(23:27):
this happen because it's the 25th anniversary. We can't just
let it die. As Americans, we all said that we
would remember and we want to make sure that we
do remember. And that's why we pulled this off in
two months.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Outstanding. NYLOH.org.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is that the place to get tickets and learn more information?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Outstanding. Anything else we should know about this?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Let me ask.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
We're going to have a beautiful day and have a
great tribute. That's all that matters to us right now
is we honor those that were there and we show
that we do remember.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I'm not a motorcyclist. I've never been anything like this.
What does it feel like to be in a long
line of motorcycles in a ride like this with a
message like this?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What's that like?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's hard to explain. There's not really a word for it.
But besides knowing that you're part of honoring those people
and showing, again, it's all about showing we remembered.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I imagine there's a spirit of power and brotherhood, community, patriotism.
I bet it's almost a sacred undertaking for a lot
of people.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's Saturday, starts at 11, and the big event noon
at Barnard Exempt. You can learn more about it, get
through it and such like that, and sign up, purchase
tickets at NYLOH, that stands for New York Legacy of Heroes, nyloh.org.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Gentlemen, thanks so much for putting this together. Thanks for
telling us about it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Thanks for having us, and hopefully we see everybody at
the event.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
100%.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You take care. Take a break.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Back in a moment on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
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Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Rochester Bath & Kitchen. is, listen, the name is pretty communicative,
Rochester Bath and Kitchen. If you're thinking of having bathroom
or kitchen renovation done, and you're in the Rochester region,
whether that renovation is large or small, this is where
you go, okay? Arrows pointing, underlying stars, highlight, this is
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where you go.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Why?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Well, because of their wonderful history, because of their complete
commitment to your satisfaction, because of their integrity and capability.
Because they are craftsmen, because as they design with you
and for you, your bathroom or kitchen renovations, you go,
oh my gosh, that's amazing. And then when the work
is done and you look at it and it's truly
(26:07):
your kitchen or your bathroom now, you again repeat, Man,
that is amazing. Give them a call. Have them stop out.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
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Speaker 4 (26:18):
381-1320.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
They've got a showroom. It's at 180 Dispatch Drive. Open
every day but Sunday. And the website is rochesterbathandkitchen.com.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Welcome back. There's a lot of stuff going on. I apologize.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think my mind and heart are caught up in
matters of September 11th.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
There.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Last night on the news, they had the Monroe County
Health Director, a doctor who I have confidence in and
who I feel good about. Everything I've seen or read
about her, everything she said has always struck me as reasonable, decent,
and good-hearted, right? This is not some show-off kind of person,
(26:58):
at least, I don't know. That's my take on her.
So I don't disrespect her by any means, but I
would politely say, that I think our public health officials
failed to learn one of the lessons of the COVID matter.
In COVID, and I'm not speaking against doctors, but I'm
just telling you how it was, and you can take
(27:21):
it or leave it as you will, but you treated
us like sheep, like we were idiots, and that somehow
by telling us little lies to get us to do
what you wanted us to do, you thought that was
the right thing. I don't think that you did that
because you lack character or integrity. I think you did
that because somehow your profession has decided that that's the
(27:43):
right thing to do. It is, however, not the right
thing to do. And unfortunately, the tremendous loss of confidence
in the health profession has arisen from the fact that
during COVID, you guys lied your asses off and treated
us like.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sheep, right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm not being angry with him, just saying, okay, that
didn't work last time.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Don't do it that way anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think there's a little bit of that going on
with the measles right now. The thing is, we have
measles reintroduced. We have people who aren't vaccinated. Overwhelmingly, they
are people who are not vaccinated for religious reasons. And
we have had this influx of illegal aliens over the
(28:27):
last handful of years. And those people have brought their germs.
You and me, we all take our germs, right? and
so the illegal aliens who weren't screened for health as
they came in, and that brought measles back. Over the
last month or six weeks, we've had across our region
some cases of measles. We've had two undeniable outbreaks, one
(28:49):
in Seneca County, one in Steuben County.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And possibly others.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And we've had now two possible exposures in Monroe County,
one at the Mrs. Slaughter train station and the other
at the strong emergency department. I think that was Friday
night into Saturday morning. And so they have said, oh,
you must, these are unvaccinated people. And they are presenting
(29:16):
this without any specifics, without any details, in an effort,
I believe, to create fear that, oh my gosh, you
must get your vaccine, you must get your vaccine.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I believe that these outbreaks.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Have been in Amish or Mennonite communities. I think that
there are– none of the health departments will say so,
but there have been a couple of hints. Health directors
for both Seneca and Monroe counties have referred to communities
of unvaccinated people. I think that the only place that
such a description, if it's accurate, in our region would
(29:52):
be people who congregate for religious reasons and don't vaccinate
for religious reasons. The overwhelming majority of those people in
our region are folks who are Amish or Mennonite, people
I love and admire, right? And I believe that measles
outbreaks in our region of New York, I honestly believe
(30:17):
that if any of those were not among Amish or
Mennonite people.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'd be very surprised.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So they don't want to say, oh, it's just Amish
and Mennonite because they think the rest of us are
frigging idiots. And then we won't go get our shots.
And they say, oh, it's in our counties. You need
to get vaccinated. I think that they believe that that
fear will drive us all to the doctor to get
our shots. This is the same sort of manipulation through
(30:45):
subtle deception or not so subtle deception that went on
during COVID. And that did not impact our behavior, but
it did significantly damage our attitude and it damaged our trust.
for the medical profession and for public health officials. We
need to have trust. We are benefited by trust in
medical professionals and in public health officials. So doing things
(31:09):
that damage it is not a smart idea. We are
not dummies. And the deal is that, again, the fact
that there's no confirmation of this, but the surmise deduction is, well,
these are people in these unique religious communities. If we
(31:32):
say that, will that make idiots like you and me
less prone to get ourselves or our children vaccinated? I
personally don't think so, but I personally am someone who
I don't believe in the COVID vaccine because we've seen
that it fails, but I do believe in traditional vaccines.
And I have nine children, all of whom have been
(31:52):
vaccinated three ways from Sunday, right? And And I think
that as very high measles participation rate in our region shows,
something between 85% and 90%, that's what the overwhelming majority
of us think. But this kind of amorphous threat of,
oh my gosh, it's in Monroe County, you can tell
(32:16):
us the whole story. You can tell us the truth.
And we have sufficient resources. bandwidth to process that and
understand it and as free people who will then feel
respected by you will be more prone to return that
respect to you and you'll be better able to care
(32:37):
for us and we'll be better able to benefit by
your medical knowledge and expertise but if you kinda don't
lay it all on the table for us we feel
like you're slicking us or deceiving us and that damages
that trust which diminishes the good that the medical profession
can do for the community.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's time for news. We'll get that from Dave Debo.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
He's next on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
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