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September 11, 2026 • 32 mins
Bob talks about a cardiac and light study, the instigators of 9/11, and the first casualty of 9/11.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Work week, expect a cooler than average day with highs
today anywhere from 70 to the lower 70s. Now as
we head into tonight, expect at least mainly clear skies.
It's going to be another cool night. We'll drop down
to about the lower 50s. And for Saturday, some sunshine
to start. A few more clouds build in throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Mainly dry.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Could pick up a couple showers by the evening. High
temperatures on Saturday in the upper 70s to near 80.
From the 13 Wham Weather Authority, I'm.

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Meteorologist Marty Snyder.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
On Rochester's news, weather, and traffic station, NewsRadio Web 1180.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Downtown, sunny skies and 56 degrees. It is 55 in Ogden.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's 8.02 on Rochester's Source for breaking news, weather, and traffic.
NewsRadio Web 1180. 25 years ago this morning, the deadliest
attack on the United States soil since Pearl Harbor was
carried out. Mark Mayfield has details.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
September 11, 2001, saw two hijacked commercial jetliners strike the
World Trade Center. reducing the Twin Towers to over a
million and a half tons of rubble. Another plane at
the Pentagon and the fourth United Flight 93 was brought
down in a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania by passengers and
crew who'd heard about the earlier incidents. Reflecting on the
anniversary of the attacks, former President George W. Bush said

(01:13):
this week there was a brief, horrible moment where it
was believed that Flight.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
93 had been shot down by the U.S. military. I'm
Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Back here, rescue crews had to pull a teen out
of the Genesee River Gorge last night. Police said the
17-year-old could not get out of the waters near the
driving park bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
The boy, though, was not hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
A Rochester man charged with murder is due back in
court today after he was finally arraigned yesterday. Milton Simmons
pleaded not guilty to murder and evidence tampering charges. Police
say he shot 22-year-old Munga El Ocho during an argument
at a department on North Plymouth Avenue August 16th. He
then allegedly put the body in a garbage tote and
rolled it to the Genesee River Trail. where he tried
to set it on fire to destroy the evidence. Locha's
family was in court yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
He was a cool guy, a good guy. He was
a friend of everyone.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
We are just waiting on the court's date to be
announced so we can all show up again.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Simmons will likely face additional charges.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
The two suspects in a homicide in a Brown Square
neighborhood of August of last year due in court today.

Speaker 7 (02:13):
Police say 19-year-old Yasir Hall, along with Javion Lopez, gunned
down 68-year-old Gilberto Morales Cruz during a robbery on Smith
Street near Oak Street. Both are charged with second-degree murder, robbery,
and gun crimes. Dominic Ciccarelli, NewsRadio, WAM 1180.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Pittsburgh is looking to beef up its ban on e-bikes
on village sidewalks. The village board wants to boost the
first fine from $ 100 to $ 500. and also allow police
to immediately confiscate those e-bikes. One trustee says they want
to focus on young offenders in particular.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
The under-16 population is the biggest problem here. The health
risks and all the rest of it are targeting that
under-16 age bracket.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
The village attorney still has to draft the new rules
before they would go back to the board for review
and a possible vote.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
An audit shows millions of dollars in state grants to
ease New York's teacher shortage were never spent.

Speaker 9 (03:06):
State Comptroller Tom DiNapoli says the audit found the State
Education Department failed to award about $ 36 million in grants
between 2019 and 2025. His office says most districts never
applied because they didn't know the programs existed. DiNapoli's urging
stronger oversight, better outreach, and improved tracking of grant results.
State officials dispute the reports. Todd Halliday, NewsRadio WAM 1180.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
And falling asleep with a light on, whether it's while
watching TV or from a nightlight, could weaken your heart.
Scientists at Tulane University say it could change the function
and structure of your heart, putting you at higher risk
for cardiovascular disease. Their findings build on earlier research that
found that bright light exposure at night can boost heart
failure risk by 55%. and make you 47% more likely

(03:50):
to have a heart attack. NewsRadio WAM 1180 time now, 8.05.
Thanks for listening to the morning news.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Hey, here's the guy who always gets our heart pumping,
Bob Lonsberry on NewsRadio WAM 1180.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Thanks, John. Appreciate you. Good morning, Rochester. I'm not a scientist,
but that assertion there. And you and I have lived
a long time. We've seen a lot of studies come
and a lot of studies go. They seem sometimes to
be founded on a basis of solid evidence. Other times

(04:23):
they seem to be pulled out of the hind ends
of idiots. For example, this assertion here that if you
sleep with the light on, you have this dramatically increased
potential for heart disease and heart attack. It would seem
that in nature, you would have a very simple test
of whether or not this is accurate. you may be

(04:45):
aware that at the north and south ends of our planet,
through the summer months, you have extraordinarily long days and
you have periods of time, particularly at far north latitudes,
where there is no nighttime for almost three months on end.
And so if sleeping in light significantly increases cardiovascular disease

(05:11):
and risk for heart attack, then you would naturally conclude
the people who live at high north and south latitudes,
the Inuits of the northern hemisphere, and the folks who
live down at the bottom of South America in the
southern latitude, some of the people of the South Pacific Islands,
then you would expect those people to have significantly more

(05:34):
problematic life histories in regards to heart disease. But there
is no regionalism in heart disease a heart attack or
stroke that's not explained by diet. So at any rate,
those folks got their study and no doubt got their
government grant to pay for it, and they got their

(05:55):
15 seconds on the radio. But I'm not exactly sure
they had advanced science. Here's another thing I would point out.
Just sitting here, some jackass on the radio listening to
the news. The assertion of this study is that sleeping
with the light on increases your risk of a heart
attack and cardiovascular disease. Well, through obviously the overwhelming majority

(06:19):
of human history, you know, ever since we came down
out of the trees, we've been sleeping more or less
in the dark, right? It was not until Tom Edison
invented the electric light bulb that, whoops, we had the
option of sleeping in the light. And so did you
have among Homo sapiens an onset of cardiovascular disease and

(06:42):
heart attack when electricity in the late 1800s and early
1900s started moving across the industrialized world? You didn't. And
in fact, probably as a consequence of improved hygiene, the
ultimate advent of sulfur drugs and antibiotics, and increased use

(07:03):
of vaccinations, you had a significant drop in these types
of mortality and morbidity. And you had a dramatic extension
in human life. So sometimes these science people... See, one
of the problems with the way we fund science right
now is we pay people to study things. We don't

(07:26):
give them a damn thing to learn anything. They get
no extra money if they solve a problem. What they
have to do is they perpetuate their employment, justify their
existence by getting grant after grant after grant. You don't
get hired to be a professor at a college because
you know how to teach a class or because you're

(07:47):
some grand genius or giant genius. You get hired at
a college to teach if you can write up nice
proposals and get grants to bring in government money to
your college. And so you create an industry that's focused
on getting studies approved. And it doesn't matter what the
study is looking into. It must merely get approved so

(08:12):
that the money comes in. And at any rate, so
ever learning but never coming to a knowledge of the
truth is a line borrowed from the Bible and a line,
I think, pretty descriptive of this stuff. So if you
do happen to sleep with the light on or perchance,
sleep during the daytime, disregard that last report. Your ticker

(08:35):
is going to be okay. Watch your diet. Get some exercise.
I suspect following the advice of your doctor, you'll turn
out fine. It's time for traffic and weather on the
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into the inner loop now on 590. Southbound, Dorton Street,
Old Bayview Road down past. Brown Crop Road is heavy
and then 390. Southbound, it's slow past the airport. A
couple of crashes still being cleared. One on Lyall Avenue

(09:14):
at Glide Street and another at Seneca Avenue at Seneca
Manor Drive. And in Gates, a west side.

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(10:07):
when you've got a sneeze coming.

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Thank goodness it was a simple, short weathercast. This is
25 years. 25 years ago at 8.12 a.m., two of
the aircraft were airborne. Check that. One was, and one

(10:31):
was at the end of the runway about to lift off.
American Flight 11, scheduled to go from Logan to LAX,
had been in the air since 7.59, 13 minutes at
this point. United 175, likewise scheduled for Logan to LAX,
was at the end of the runway waiting for clearance.

(10:53):
It would take off in about a minute and 15
seconds from now at 8.14 a.m. At Dulles, down by Washington,
at 8.20, about 13 minutes from now, that flight, likewise
scheduled to Los Angeles, would become airborne. And the last
of the flights that would be hijacked that day, United

(11:16):
93 out of Newark, set for San Francisco, would take
off at 8.42. At this moment, there were 19 Muslim
terrorists who had come to this country to implement a
plan of destruction and mayhem motivated by their religious bigotry.

(11:39):
They hated us because we weren't their religion. They hated
us because we were a pluralistic and free society. They
hated us because some of us were Christian. They hated
us because some of us were Jews. They hated us
because some of us were gay. They hated us because
some of us drank alcohol. They hated us because women

(12:01):
were allowed to own property and get education and live
lives of their own choosing and walk around with their
heads uncovered. They hated us because we were holding liberty's
torch aloft. And Liberty's Torch indicates that we have the
God-given right to freedom of conscience, to believe what we
want to believe. And that includes in matters of faith

(12:23):
and religion. They hated us because our very system in
existence stands as an eternal refutation against the Sharia law,
which they hoped to impose upon the world. They hated
us because they were not serving God. They were serving
the devil. And 25 years ago, right now, 19 of
these bastards were sitting there in first class waiting, little

(12:48):
knives in their pockets, box cutters, to slit the throats
of middle-aged women working as flight attendants and then to
do the same to the pilots of the airplanes they flew.
Their lust, their aspiration, their desire 25 years ago right
now was to kill as many people like you as
they could. Repeating, to kill as many people like you

(13:11):
and your children and your parents as as they could.
That's what we're never forgetting. That's what we're remembering today.
This is NewsRadio WHAM 1180.

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Wham 1180. I have to confess out of the box

(13:56):
that September 11th messes with my head a little bit,
and there is, you know, shock and pain and also rage.
I think I was sitting on my ass when it
happened in a radio studio, as I have largely sat

(14:17):
on my ass the 25 years since. It was an
astounding act of violence committed against the American people, an
unprecedented act of violence committed against the American nation. It
was horrifically shocking. It was deeply stirring for all Americans.

(14:38):
And it has rather commenced a quarter century of a
still ongoing and I suspect never-ending war with terrorism, right?
The jihad against people like us commenced long before September
11th and will continue long after. We spent 20 years

(15:03):
watching the sons and daughters of our region and our
country go off to fight people like these terrorists, people
with the same desire to kill us and ours because
we believe differently, right? Because we live differently, because we
claim the God-given rights of liberty to pursue our own

(15:24):
happiness as opposed to subjugate ourselves to their religion. That
evil intent demonstrated horrifically 25 years ago today has existed
for centuries and will in all likelihood continue to exist
for centuries. And that's just a reality. But I think of, again,

(15:50):
from our area, because we've seen faces and known names
and to a small degree come to know families, but
I think of the men and women from our region,
like I said, who fought the global war on terror.
That was inextricably connected to this instigating event, this attack.

(16:12):
We back then had this never forget, always remember, always remember. Well,
what is it that we're never going to forget? I
think there are three things. One, that we were attacked
by religious bigots. The people in the college classrooms, the
folks on the Democratic ticket would have us believe different

(16:34):
things that somehow it was we who were responsible for this,
that our racism or our colonialism or whatever it is
that they want to pull out of their ass to
throw at us falsely and inaccurately, we are told that
it was our fault, our responsibility. And that is just

(16:58):
a lie. It happened because they were religious bigots. Their
hatred based in, again, a blind rejection of anyone who
was not exactly like them. We're never going to forget
we were attacked by religious bigots, number one. We're never
going to forget that we responded that day, real live Americans,

(17:24):
on the street, in the offices, on the airplanes, with
courage and compassion. People stood up to evil. People reached
out for one another and cared for one another. And
the third thing we will never forget is you start it,
we'll finish it, right? We'll put a boot in your ass.
That's the American way. That's what happened. And again, that's

(17:49):
the takeaway. We were attacked because they're religious bigots. We
responded with compassion and courage. And again, they started this war.
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Speaker 2 (18:29):
Went out to the blood drive yesterday on East Main Street,
out almost to Culver at one of the mosques, doing
a story on fighting Islamophobia 25 years after September 11th.
And they had some, no disrespect, but some guy from
the mosque there with some hat distinctive of his culture

(18:52):
or faith or something like that. And he said that,
you know, Islam was misrepresented. and that by having a
blood drive, they were showing the true and peaceful message
of Islam. It's like when they have the blood drive
at the fire hall, it's showing the true and peaceful

(19:13):
message of the volunteer fire service. Also, the man with
the unique hat, he said that people with Islamophobia, and
he was talking about you, he said that you're not
educated and ignorant. So, yeah, not educated and ignorant. And

(19:36):
this is a– Islam is misrepresented by, well, evil bastards
like you, general listener. Here's the thing I was just thinking. uh,
the Floyd, uh, the, the voice data, whatever on, uh,
United Flight 93, uh, the, uh, last, uh, sounds it recorded, um, were, uh,

(19:58):
seven repetitions of the phrase Allah Hu Akbar. So when
Allah Hu Akbar, cause what happened is four burly, uh,
men had taken on the other, uh, hijackers snapped their
little religion of peace necks, and now they were fighting
with the pilot, the terrorist pilot, and they were taking

(20:21):
the plane down, saying, your ride ends right here, Skip.



seven times must be he was misrepresenting islam is if

(20:45):
only he had talked to the guy at the blood
drive he would have had a better understanding of islam
obviously And clearly this is a misrepresentation. Anybody can shout
Allahu Akbar as, you know, four beefy Americans are fighting
in defense of their country. And to think that that

(21:05):
has anything to do with his religion, that just proves
that you're Islamophobe, 100%. Time for Traffic and Weather on
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's going to be mostly sunny today with a high 70,
maybe a little bit better. It's 59 at 841, and
you're listening to NewsRadio WHAM 1180. So, yeah, happy Islamic
Heritage Day, I guess is, you know, what we should
call this. And here's just the thing. I'm just laying

(21:51):
this out there, okay? If I'm an Islamophobe, why is
it that security is tightened today all across America? If
I'm an Islamophobe, why is it that Kathy Hochul has

(22:12):
ordered extra security like crazy across New York City and
New York State today? If this is all a function of,
you know, me being an Islamophobe, again, because I'm not
educated and ignorant, according to Mr. Blood Drive, if that's
just a bunch of like, well, listen, many of you are.

(22:35):
We've got studies that verify it. Many of you are white.
Many of you are Christian. And you have uneducated and
ignorant opinions, right? So anyway, I'll leave this alone. Separating
September 11th from Islam is impossible. Is this at the
feet of all Muslims? Absolutely not. Of course not. What

(22:56):
a ridiculous assertion. But it is just as ridiculous, just
as preposterous to sever this from Islam.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
It is clear that there is a portion of Islam,
a portion which represents tens of millions of people around
the world. There is a portion of Islam which rejoiced
in what happened that day. and would love to reprise
that attack every day if it could, right? And so

(23:26):
let's just tell the story. Let's not get in here
and play our little political games and say, oh, well,
hold it now. No, you can't. Oh, no, no, no, no.
You're uneducated and ignorant. Well, my ass, my brother, my ass.
I was alive then. This country endured this attack, and

(23:47):
that is undeniable. And whatever kind of spin they're going
to put on it in the college classrooms, whatever spin
they're going to put on it on the 6 o'clock news,
and certainly not all of them, but some of them,
isn't going to change that. We live in a world
with certain realities. And the reality is that religious bigotry
led to the largest domestic attack against the United States

(24:11):
in our history.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
It was religious bigotry, and we were the victims, not
the perpetrators. And don't let anybody twist that or turn
that in any other direction. Simply would not be right,
would not be honest. Now, that's really all I have
to say about that. The issue of this matter is

(24:35):
remembering how we responded and honoring those who fell. That's
my take on it. We'll be back with you in
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the number 222. it'd be good to hear from you.
We've got a few guests we're going to touch base with.
If you were there, if you had a loved one
or a relative who was there, any of theirs, we

(24:56):
had people from here who were in both towers. We
had people from here who were in the Pentagon. We
had at least one man from here who was on
the plane and who fought to protect our Capitol. This
event involved us and touched us just as it involved

(25:18):
and touched every community across this country. Back in a
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The first officially recorded death from the terrorist attack of

(27:12):
September 11th was not of the first man to die.
It was of a chaplain of the New York City
Fire Department, Father Michael Judge. He had been a priest
in New York City forever, grew up there, and had
been a chaplain of the fire department for some several years.

(27:39):
When the word of the first plane into a tower passed,
he changed from his clerical robes into his fire uniform,
and reported to the scene where he went around encouraging
and praying and offering last rites. He knelt beside the

(28:04):
body of the first firefighter to die that day, a
firefighter who was killed outside the World Trade Center when
a person jumping from one of the uppermost floors landed
on him and killed him. Father Mike, as he was called,
worked furiously, encouraging the firefighters, the police officers, offering comfort

(28:29):
to the fleeing office workers and passers-by. And there was
a circumstance where material was falling, and a police officer
moving through a darkened portion of the lobby of one
of the towers stumbled across something and He shined his
flashlight down, and that something was in a fire uniform.

(28:55):
And the police officer shouted out to some firefighters who
were nearby, I've got one of yours. And those firefighters
came over and recognized Father Mike. They wanted to get
his body out of there as an act of respect. And, well,

(29:15):
there was nearby an office chair. and they picked up
Father Michael Judge, and they sat him in that office chair,
and they lifted the chair up. As they were moving
out of the building, it was clear to see that
it was difficult to carry him. There was an office

(29:37):
worker man who was fleeing, and he saw what ended
up being two firefighters and two police officers struggling to
carry the chair. And the office worker went over and
grabbed hold. And then they carried the chair out into

(29:57):
the sunlight. There's the dust. There's all the mayhem and
the horror, a Reuters photographer took a picture of them
carrying this deceased fire chaplain, Father Mike, in the office chair.
That photograph, of course, became at the time very representative

(30:17):
of the tragedy and of the brotherhood, sisterhood, the service,
the family aspect, caring for each other aspect of the deal.
Father Mike was carried to a nearby church. And these
five men laid him there before the altar. They covered

(30:39):
him over with a sheet. They took his cassock, or stole,
I don't know the right word. Stole? Cossack? Okay. But
they laid that on top of the sheet, and they
took his fire department badge, And they laid it there

(30:59):
on top of the sheet and returned to the fire,
the attack. And the deal is that, and his remains
were found there later that day, but because they placed
him there and he was out of the area as

(31:21):
the buildings collapsed, his remains were preserved. And were one
of a very few sets of complete remains. And so,
as the medical examiner for the city of New York
went through the task, the service, of recording the dead,

(31:44):
0001 on the death certificates was Fire Department Chaplain Father
Michael Judge recorded officially as the first fatality. of the
September 11th terrorist attack, a man of God. News is
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