September 11, 2026 • 30 mins
Bob talks about what happened on the planes during 9/11, Todd Beamer, and Brandon Hampson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another hour with Bob Lonsbury, starting now on NewsRadio WAM 1180.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thanks, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I appreciate that, truly. And troops, likewise, I truly appreciate
you showing up for a muster. I hope all is
cool and copacetic on your end. Across our region and
across our country are people who were touched, impacted directly
by the attacks of September 11, 2001.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
There were people from.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here many of them who were targets in the World
Trade Center towers at the Pentagon. We had folks with
roots here who were on that Flight 93. We had
people here on that day 25 years ago who had
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little children who would grow up to be the men
and women who would fight the global war on terror.
Our resolve to never let a Muslim terrorist attack like
that happen again. There were little kids who learned about
this from teachers and moms and dads who grew up
to be men and women who would wear our uniform
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and some of whom would not return from the global.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
War on terror.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This day meant a lot. I think that there are
three things to remember why it happened because of the
religious bigotry of our attackers. Another thing to remember, how
do we respond? With courage and compassion, we stood up
all across our society. You saw it in office workers,
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in firefighters. You saw it in people in Rome, New York,
Griffith Air Force Base, the Northeast Air Defense Sector, who
organized planes flying here and there. Air National Guard fighter
jets hoping to protect the skies.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We were touched.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And at any rate, if I could, here's just a
quick reconstruction of what transpired that day.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There were four jetliners.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They each were taking off from major East Coast cities.
They each were headed for major West Coast cities. They
were each attacked by crews of Muslim terrorists. The crews
were designed to have five members. Three of them did.
One of the members of the fourth crew had been
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stopped by immigration officials, not allowed into the country.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And so that crew had four.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
American Flight 11 from Boston to LAX took off at
7.59 a.m. and it crashed at 8.46 into the North Tower.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The North Tower would fall at 10.28.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
United 175, again Boston to Los Angeles, took off at 8.14,
hijacked at 8.42, crashed at 9.03.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Into the South Tower. The South Tower fell at 9.59.
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American Flight 77, Dulles to Los Angeles, took off at 8.20,
hijacked at 8.54, crashed into the Pentagon purposefully at 9.37.
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And in United 93, Newark to San Francisco, took off
at 8.42, hijacked at 9.28, into the ground outside Shanksville
at 10.03. Mentioned earlier, Jeremy Glick from the University of Rochester,
one of four men leading the passengers there in a
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violent assault of.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The hijackers, which was successful.
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And then a desperate fight inside the cockpit to make
sure that that terrorist plan to destroy the Capitol building
in the United States was not successful. With Jeremy Glick
were Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett, and Todd Beamer. Peter, I
appreciate you phoning, sir. Welcome to NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Hi, Bob. Can you hear me okay?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, sir, perfectly.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay. I'll be briefed. My wife and I had gone
to Canada to a provincial park named Winda, which is
on the south end of Georgian Bay. And we got
up that morning and we got on our bikes and
we went down to the ranger station to see if
we could find a newspaper. And that's when we found
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out that something was going on because the rangers had
a TV and they were showing it, but they didn't
really have any footage. but they were talking about the
planes that had crashed into the towers. So we hightailed
it back to the campground and said, we better pack
up and get out of here and go home. Well,
we went to, we found out that it was a
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24-hour wait at the Niagara River border getting into the
United States. So we said, well, we're not doing that.
So we headed up the lake, and we went to
the Thousand Islands Bridge, and that was eight hours. This
is all the same day, okay? And then we took
off and we went farther north to Ogdensburg, where there
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was the next bridge, I believe. And there were no cars.
We just drove across and got back into New York
State and headed back to where we live in Sotus.
So we didn't really know what was going on. The
guards at the Ogdensburg Bridge were comedians, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What, what, what's the point, sir? What, what, uh, what
occurred or what?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, the point is that we could not get back and, um,
we had to do a lot of, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, in some place else with that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And that's the, that's the entirety of the story.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, really? That's okay.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Okay. Well, um, I'm glad you endured that inconvenience.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Um, I want to do, if I could talk a
little bit about what happened on flight 93. Um, When
Flight 93 was hijacked at 928, there already had been
two impacts on the Twin Towers. As the plane is
hijacked and the Muslim terrorists slit the throats of flight
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attendants and left them there dead and dying in the
aisles and stormed the cockpit and similarly with their box
cutters slit the throats, of the flight crew, the pilots.
The passengers were in the back. This was early in
the cell phone era. People called on their cell phones.
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There likewise were some air-to-ground phones on the aircraft. People
began telephoning passengers on Flight 93. They quickly learned that
there had been other hijackings and these two crashes. And
they surmised at about the same time that our national
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command structure was surmising that this plane, now stolen, probably
was intended to be used for a similar purpose. And interestingly,
the folks on the plane and the national command structure
each kind of surmised that the target is either going
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to be the U.S. Capitol or maybe the White House.
something in Washington, D.C. The senior command structure, a request
went to Dick Cheney, who was at the White House.
If a plane is threatening a building, can we shoot
it down? Is that authorized? Cheney said that he touched
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base with George W. Bush, and an affirmative answer was given. F-16s,
two of them were launched out of Syracuse, um, Two
of them were launched out of Washington, D.C.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Neither one of them was armed.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
If they were given the order to take the plane down,
the only way they could have done that was to
have flown their jet fighters into the jetliner and probably
sacrificed their lives in taking down the plane. That never happened,
of course, because the people on that plane took matters
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into their own hands, and the beginning of our fight
back took place in the narrow aisles and in the
cockpit of United Flight 93. And more about that in
a moment.
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Take a break now.
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Never forget.
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One of the firemen from Rescue 1 looked up and said,
we may not live through today.
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I'm on the 100th floor of the World Trade Center
with 30 people.
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They had a lot of emergency workers around the building,
and of course everybody's hoping that these people were able
to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
September 11th, 2001. We took the time to shake each
other's hands and wish each other good luck. And it's
great knowing you. Out of all those guys I was
surrounded by, I'm the only one that's alive the whole time.
They went up and put themselves back in harm's way
just to save other people.
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They were true heroes. 25 years later, we remember the
lives and the families of those lost on 9-11.
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Fire departments from across our region went to New York City.
There were deputies of the Ontario County Sheriff's Office who
went down.
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There were deputies.
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From the Allegheny County Sheriff's Office who went down. No
doubt other agencies of which I am unaware. Back to
Flight 93. There was a fellow named Todd Beamer. He
was 32 years of age. He was a Christian fellow.
He played baseball at Wheaton College. had two little boys
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and a newborn baby girl at home. He gets on
the GT air phone, and there's an operator there.
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Mrs.
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Jefferson was her name. And what's her job? She's a
phone operator, right? But she, with the FBI listening in,
expertly got information from Todd Beamer, gave him information about
the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon,
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And she said, we think maybe your plane could be
a part of this plan. Like I said, Todd Beamer
was a Christian.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
This lady, Mrs.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Jefferson, she recited with him at his request the Lord's
Prayer and the 23rd Psalm. And he, Todd Beamer, in
conversation with another passenger he referenced named Jeremy, that'd be
Jeremy Glick, a graduate of the University of Rochester, said,
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captain of the rugby team at the U of R,
president of the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity there, they said,
we're going to fight back. And the last words heard
from Todd Beamer were, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, let's roll.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That man, Jeremy Glick, on a call from the airplane,
he said, quote, we're going to rush the hijackers. Todd
Beamer played college baseball.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He was an athlete.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Jeremy Glick was a national judo champion. He was an athlete.
Another passenger, Mark Bingham, UC Berkeley, played on the two-time
national champion rugby team there.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
He was 6'4, 225.
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He called his mother and his aunt from the airplane,
described what was going on, and his mother said, quote,
I would say go ahead and do everything you can
to overpower them because they are hell-bent. And this mom
from far away told her son to go fight.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Go do what you can. And he did.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A fourth member of that scrum that went forward and attacked, again,
terrorists who they thought, one said he had a bomb.
They had at that point killed at least four people.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
And they were armed.
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The fourth attacker was a man named Tom Burnett. And
Tom was.
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The oldest at 38.
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He'd played quarterback in high school. And for his college team, he,
like Jeremy Glick, had been president of his fraternity at
the University of Minnesota. Married three daughters. The sort of
man who got up early every day to go to
mass on the way to work. But three men who...
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who said something's got to be done. And with the
support of their fellow passengers, they went and did it.
They stormed the front of the plane. They went barehanded
against men armed with knives.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And they were.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Able to fight their way into the cockpit. They were
there able to overpower the terrorist at the controls. And
they were able to thwart the plans of these Muslim
terrorists to destroy the Capitol building, the sacred shrine of
our republic. The last words on the cockpit voice recorder
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were in Arabic, and they seemed to be from a
voice filled with terror, but the voice was shouting, Allahu Akbar,
seven times repeated, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar,
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar. And then the recording stops.
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First responders near Shanksville, there's a volunteer fire department, and
people had seen the plane go down, and men came
running from work and discovered almost nothing.
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The plane, in large measure, disappeared into the ground.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Very few discernible, recognizable pieces of either airplane or person.
And at any rate, they started it, and we finished it.
And that's one of the things we've got to never forget.
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September the 11th, 2001.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's been 25 years.
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The plane was aiming towards the building.
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I could still see that perfect blue sky. I looked
up and there was just this explosion.
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We will never forget.
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One thing of note on this 25th anniversary of the
Muslim terrorist attack on our country is... If you look
around at our community, our region, we have not forgotten.
There are wonderful ceremonies and displays, I think, at all
or certainly most of our colleges. I think that many
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of our fire and police departments have some sort of
commemoration today. Many have already held them. Many of our
communities have had ceremonies already. And I appreciate that. You know,
you drive through Brockport, of course, and there you have
a permanent reminder.
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And I think that, you know, maybe this.
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Is pushed aside by some of our politicians and maybe
pushed aside by some of the press, but by American people,
at least the American people who live here in our area,
nobody is forgetting anything. And at any rate, I applaud
that and am proud of it and grateful for it.
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A lot of people talk about, we were united after
September 11th, and then they get all teary-eyed and say, well,
why aren't we anymore? Well, I think we need to
look at what united us 25 years ago. It was
a shared faith in God, family, and country.
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And you might say, hold it, what? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But if you look at what people did and what
was important to them, it was God, family, and country.
That day and after, there was a tremendous outpouring of
faith in God. Strangers stopped there in downtown Manhattan and
prayed together. On the planes, passengers prayed together. The commemorations
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or The ceremonies, the public gatherings which took place later
that day and the days that followed were overwhelmingly in
houses of worship.
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They were in churches. Family.
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I have, you know, the last couple of weeks been,
you know, in an effort to like get my head
into this and appropriately remember what took place. I've been,
you know, watching stuff and reading things. And in the car,
I've been listening to a book. Let me get you the.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Name of it. I recommend it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's called The Only Plane in the Sky. It's an
oral history of 9-11. And in chronological order, it goes
through the first-person remembrances and recollections of people involved. And
one striking aspect of so many of the recollections is
that they focus on family, right? As the attack was underway,
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people in the towers, people on the airplanes, immediately thought
of contacting family. If family was hugely important, I can't
tell you how many calls were received from the towers,
from at least one of the airplanes, of people just
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feeling it hugely important to tell their families, I love you,
one last time. We spoke a little bit about this
one gentleman, Mr. Beamer, Todd Beamer. He's on the phone
with Mrs. Jefferson, the lady at the phone company. And
he makes her promise. He gives her the name of
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his wife and his two little boys and little girl.
And he makes her promise. He gives the number. Please
tell them that I love them. Family was massively important.
There's one situation where people are coming down the stairs
in one of the towers. There's a person there, a heavier.
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Person, older person.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's difficult for them to do that. It was a
lot of exertion to get out of the buildings or try.
And another office worker stops encouraging this person, you've got
to do it, you've got to do it, and ultimately says,
you've got to do it for your family. You've got
to see your family. You can't die. They can't lose you.
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This man knew nothing about this fellow's family. But it
was family. What united us after September 11th? It was God, family, country.
And country, we came together like family under attack. We
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were red, white, and blue. We were USA. I've told
this story too many times. I'm standing in a fairly
long line at a convenience store in West Valley City, Utah.
a very, very racially diverse community. A lot of Asian people,
a lot of Latino people, a lot of Polynesian people.
And I'm, again, seven or eight people back in line
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waiting to pay for my Gatorade, the only white person there.
And out comes the little clerk and lays a box
of American flag lapel pins on the counter. The line
collapses as everybody, everybody moves forward and reaches in and
we're each trying to get a flag lapel pin or
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two or three or whatever. We were one country. And
what is it that brought us together in the wake
of September 11th? It was exactly that. It was God, family,
and country. The bedrock principles which have always been our strength.
How can we be reunited again as a country? Well,
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It will require all of us to place value in
those three bedrock principles. We all, again, as a country,
will need to value God, family, and country. And I
don't want to get political on this day, but I'd
like to point out to you that one of our
two dominant political philosophies, and I'm not saying that my
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political party right now is doing very well. We've got
some problems, right? We're not following the rules. We're not
being the people we're supposed to be. at least in part.
But I want to point out that there is one
political philosophy in our country that is decidedly anti-God, anti-family,
and anti-country. And that is where our division arises. When
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we shared those three values, when we shared those three commitments,
we were one. Right? They are the glue God, family,
and country, which have ever held this nation together. With them,
we'll be fine. Without them, we will fall.
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Right?
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Without them, we are that proverbial building whose foundation is sand.
And so, next time you hear people say, oh, we
were united then, and why can't we be united now?
You and I have just gone over exactly why it
was And why right now it's not. And what needs
to happen for it to ever turn back around.
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Lasky for picking up this story relative to Brandon Hampson.
I've been following this for a couple of days. Brandon Hampson, well,
was connected to a.
A prominent former law enforcement official here in town many
years ago and in 1994 in the fall of the
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year he was living with this girl and he had
a baby with her and he attacked her assaulted her
with a hammer and a screwdriver and beat this poor
young lady she was just 20 And she had had
a baby, I think, just three months before. But he
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beat her so savagely with this screwdriver and this hammer.
It left her with significant injuries to her back, her chest,
her head, and her inner ear. She had a punctured lung,
a sucking chest wound. She had a lacerated kidney. What
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kind of a blow does it take to lacerate your kidney, right?
And she had two broken wrists. Again, imagine the pain
of that. Well, again, he beat her almost to death,
did this man, Brandon Hampson. The police, it was Chief Vocal.
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Out of Brighton.
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He was on this like white on rice. Howard Relin
was the district attorney back then. He was on this
like white on rice. It was a horrible, horrible domestic
violence situation. The deal is, though, that the bad guy,
Brandon Hampson, oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. He proposed marriage
to the victim. They bought a wedding license over at
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the clerk's office, and she refused to cooperate. In fact,
she ran off to Florida. Well, here's the deal. Howard
Rellen thought that some kind of statement needed to be made.
He was the district attorney.
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At the time.
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Howard Relin with Chief Vocal had her arrested down in
Florida as a material witness and had her brought back
up here, and she still refused to cooperate. And so
instead of the attempted murder that Chief Vocal, Tom Vocal,
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and Howard Relin, the DA, wanted to bring against Brandon Hampson, the.
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Most they could get was assault.
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So this Brandon Hampson, I don't know what he got,
but the maximum sentence was three to nine that he
could have gotten. So that was back in 1995 when
this matter was resolved in the courts. Brandon Hampson went
away and sort of disappeared. He returns in prominence in
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the news. There was, on the 3rd of September on
Long Island, a 62-year-old woman by the name of Rachel Frizzlett.
She was living with a man. She wanted to leave
him and go live with relatives of hers, and she
was found savagely stabbed to death. And I knew that
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police investigators on Long Island immediately began, you know, suspecting
obviously her live-in boyfriend, Brandon Hampson, Inquiry was made to
people in our area who may have known in years
past Brandon Hampson. But finally, he was identified by the
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authorities as a person of interest. And then Wednesday night,
local law enforcement in the state of Massachusetts developed information
that Brandon Hampson was at a motel in Massachusetts. They
went there. They identified him. He was outside of the
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motel building. They verbally engaged him. He charged at them
with an edged weapon. This man wanted for a stabbing murder,
and Massachusetts police engaged him with their firearms, and he
was subsequently declared dead. Howard Relin said at the time
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of the assault conviction, quote, Hopefully there will never be
repetition of conduct like this. I've seen cases where the
next step is murder. Those prophetic words from the DA
30 years ago have sadly proven true. Brandon Hampson continued
domestic violence and ultimately took a woman's life. It's time
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now for news. Dave Debo will give that to us.
We'll be back when he's done. on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
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Thanks, sir.
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I appreciate that, truly. And troops, likewise, I truly appreciate
you showing up for a muster. I hope all is
cool and copacetic on your end. Across our region and
across our country are people who were touched, impacted directly
by the attacks of September 11, 2001.
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There were people from.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here many of them who were targets in the World
Trade Center towers at the Pentagon. We had folks with
roots here who were on that Flight 93. We had
people here on that day 25 years ago who had
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little children who would grow up to be the men
and women who would fight the global war on terror.
Our resolve to never let a Muslim terrorist attack like
that happen again. There were little kids who learned about
this from teachers and moms and dads who grew up
to be men and women who would wear our uniform
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and some of whom would not return from the global.
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War on terror.
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This day meant a lot. I think that there are
three things to remember why it happened because of the
religious bigotry of our attackers. Another thing to remember, how
do we respond? With courage and compassion, we stood up
all across our society. You saw it in office workers,
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in firefighters. You saw it in people in Rome, New York,
Griffith Air Force Base, the Northeast Air Defense Sector, who
organized planes flying here and there. Air National Guard fighter
jets hoping to protect the skies.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We were touched.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And at any rate, if I could, here's just a
quick reconstruction of what transpired that day.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There were four jetliners.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They each were taking off from major East Coast cities.
They each were headed for major West Coast cities. They
were each attacked by crews of Muslim terrorists. The crews
were designed to have five members. Three of them did.
One of the members of the fourth crew had been
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stopped by immigration officials, not allowed into the country.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And so that crew had four.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
American Flight 11 from Boston to LAX took off at
7.59 a.m. and it crashed at 8.46 into the North Tower.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The North Tower would fall at 10.28.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
United 175, again Boston to Los Angeles, took off at 8.14,
hijacked at 8.42, crashed at 9.03.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Into the South Tower. The South Tower fell at 9.59.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
American Flight 77, Dulles to Los Angeles, took off at 8.20,
hijacked at 8.54, crashed into the Pentagon purposefully at 9.37.
(03:29):
And in United 93, Newark to San Francisco, took off
at 8.42, hijacked at 9.28, into the ground outside Shanksville
at 10.03. Mentioned earlier, Jeremy Glick from the University of Rochester,
one of four men leading the passengers there in a
(03:49):
violent assault of.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The hijackers, which was successful.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And then a desperate fight inside the cockpit to make
sure that that terrorist plan to destroy the Capitol building
in the United States was not successful. With Jeremy Glick
were Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett, and Todd Beamer. Peter, I
appreciate you phoning, sir. Welcome to NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Hi, Bob. Can you hear me okay?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, sir, perfectly.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay. I'll be briefed. My wife and I had gone
to Canada to a provincial park named Winda, which is
on the south end of Georgian Bay. And we got
up that morning and we got on our bikes and
we went down to the ranger station to see if
we could find a newspaper. And that's when we found
(04:45):
out that something was going on because the rangers had
a TV and they were showing it, but they didn't
really have any footage. but they were talking about the
planes that had crashed into the towers. So we hightailed
it back to the campground and said, we better pack
up and get out of here and go home. Well,
we went to, we found out that it was a
(05:07):
24-hour wait at the Niagara River border getting into the
United States. So we said, well, we're not doing that.
So we headed up the lake, and we went to
the Thousand Islands Bridge, and that was eight hours. This
is all the same day, okay? And then we took
off and we went farther north to Ogdensburg, where there
(05:30):
was the next bridge, I believe. And there were no cars.
We just drove across and got back into New York
State and headed back to where we live in Sotus.
So we didn't really know what was going on. The
guards at the Ogdensburg Bridge were comedians, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What, what, what's the point, sir? What, what, uh, what
occurred or what?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, the point is that we could not get back and, um,
we had to do a lot of, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, in some place else with that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And that's the, that's the entirety of the story.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, really? That's okay.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Okay. Well, um, I'm glad you endured that inconvenience.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Um, I want to do, if I could talk a
little bit about what happened on flight 93. Um, When
Flight 93 was hijacked at 928, there already had been
two impacts on the Twin Towers. As the plane is
hijacked and the Muslim terrorists slit the throats of flight
(06:39):
attendants and left them there dead and dying in the
aisles and stormed the cockpit and similarly with their box
cutters slit the throats, of the flight crew, the pilots.
The passengers were in the back. This was early in
the cell phone era. People called on their cell phones.
(07:00):
There likewise were some air-to-ground phones on the aircraft. People
began telephoning passengers on Flight 93. They quickly learned that
there had been other hijackings and these two crashes. And
they surmised at about the same time that our national
(07:23):
command structure was surmising that this plane, now stolen, probably
was intended to be used for a similar purpose. And interestingly,
the folks on the plane and the national command structure
each kind of surmised that the target is either going
(07:44):
to be the U.S. Capitol or maybe the White House.
something in Washington, D.C. The senior command structure, a request
went to Dick Cheney, who was at the White House.
If a plane is threatening a building, can we shoot
it down? Is that authorized? Cheney said that he touched
(08:06):
base with George W. Bush, and an affirmative answer was given. F-16s,
two of them were launched out of Syracuse, um, Two
of them were launched out of Washington, D.C.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Neither one of them was armed.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
If they were given the order to take the plane down,
the only way they could have done that was to
have flown their jet fighters into the jetliner and probably
sacrificed their lives in taking down the plane. That never happened,
of course, because the people on that plane took matters
(08:45):
into their own hands, and the beginning of our fight
back took place in the narrow aisles and in the
cockpit of United Flight 93. And more about that in
a moment.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Take a break now.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
222-1180, our number. This is NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Never forget.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
One of the firemen from Rescue 1 looked up and said,
we may not live through today.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm on the 100th floor of the World Trade Center
with 30 people.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They had a lot of emergency workers around the building,
and of course everybody's hoping that these people were able
to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
September 11th, 2001. We took the time to shake each
other's hands and wish each other good luck. And it's
great knowing you. Out of all those guys I was
surrounded by, I'm the only one that's alive the whole time.
They went up and put themselves back in harm's way
just to save other people.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
They were true heroes. 25 years later, we remember the
lives and the families of those lost on 9-11.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
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Fire departments from across our region went to New York City.
There were deputies of the Ontario County Sheriff's Office who
went down.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
There were deputies.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
From the Allegheny County Sheriff's Office who went down. No
doubt other agencies of which I am unaware. Back to
Flight 93. There was a fellow named Todd Beamer. He
was 32 years of age. He was a Christian fellow.
He played baseball at Wheaton College. had two little boys
(10:21):
and a newborn baby girl at home. He gets on
the GT air phone, and there's an operator there.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Mrs.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Jefferson was her name. And what's her job? She's a
phone operator, right? But she, with the FBI listening in,
expertly got information from Todd Beamer, gave him information about
the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon,
(10:48):
And she said, we think maybe your plane could be
a part of this plan. Like I said, Todd Beamer
was a Christian.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
This lady, Mrs.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Jefferson, she recited with him at his request the Lord's
Prayer and the 23rd Psalm. And he, Todd Beamer, in
conversation with another passenger he referenced named Jeremy, that'd be
Jeremy Glick, a graduate of the University of Rochester, said,
(11:18):
captain of the rugby team at the U of R,
president of the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity there, they said,
we're going to fight back. And the last words heard
from Todd Beamer were, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, let's roll.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That man, Jeremy Glick, on a call from the airplane,
he said, quote, we're going to rush the hijackers. Todd
Beamer played college baseball.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He was an athlete.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Jeremy Glick was a national judo champion. He was an athlete.
Another passenger, Mark Bingham, UC Berkeley, played on the two-time
national champion rugby team there.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
He was 6'4, 225.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
He called his mother and his aunt from the airplane,
described what was going on, and his mother said, quote,
I would say go ahead and do everything you can
to overpower them because they are hell-bent. And this mom
from far away told her son to go fight.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Go do what you can. And he did.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A fourth member of that scrum that went forward and attacked, again,
terrorists who they thought, one said he had a bomb.
They had at that point killed at least four people.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
And they were armed.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The fourth attacker was a man named Tom Burnett. And
Tom was.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The oldest at 38.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
He'd played quarterback in high school. And for his college team, he,
like Jeremy Glick, had been president of his fraternity at
the University of Minnesota. Married three daughters. The sort of
man who got up early every day to go to
mass on the way to work. But three men who...
(13:17):
who said something's got to be done. And with the
support of their fellow passengers, they went and did it.
They stormed the front of the plane. They went barehanded
against men armed with knives.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And they were.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Able to fight their way into the cockpit. They were
there able to overpower the terrorist at the controls. And
they were able to thwart the plans of these Muslim
terrorists to destroy the Capitol building, the sacred shrine of
our republic. The last words on the cockpit voice recorder
(13:58):
were in Arabic, and they seemed to be from a
voice filled with terror, but the voice was shouting, Allahu Akbar,
seven times repeated, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar,
Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar. And then the recording stops.
(14:26):
First responders near Shanksville, there's a volunteer fire department, and
people had seen the plane go down, and men came
running from work and discovered almost nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
The plane, in large measure, disappeared into the ground.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Very few discernible, recognizable pieces of either airplane or person.
And at any rate, they started it, and we finished it.
And that's one of the things we've got to never forget.
It's time for News 222-1180. I'd love to hear from
you next on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
September the 11th, 2001.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's been 25 years.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The plane was aiming towards the building.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I could still see that perfect blue sky. I looked
up and there was just this explosion.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We will never forget.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
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Welcome back, my friends. Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
One thing of note on this 25th anniversary of the
Muslim terrorist attack on our country is... If you look
around at our community, our region, we have not forgotten.
There are wonderful ceremonies and displays, I think, at all
or certainly most of our colleges. I think that many
(15:56):
of our fire and police departments have some sort of
commemoration today. Many have already held them. Many of our
communities have had ceremonies already. And I appreciate that. You know,
you drive through Brockport, of course, and there you have
a permanent reminder.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And I think that, you know, maybe this.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is pushed aside by some of our politicians and maybe
pushed aside by some of the press, but by American people,
at least the American people who live here in our area,
nobody is forgetting anything. And at any rate, I applaud
that and am proud of it and grateful for it.
(16:41):
A lot of people talk about, we were united after
September 11th, and then they get all teary-eyed and say, well,
why aren't we anymore? Well, I think we need to
look at what united us 25 years ago. It was
a shared faith in God, family, and country.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And you might say, hold it, what? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But if you look at what people did and what
was important to them, it was God, family, and country.
That day and after, there was a tremendous outpouring of
faith in God. Strangers stopped there in downtown Manhattan and
prayed together. On the planes, passengers prayed together. The commemorations
(17:33):
or The ceremonies, the public gatherings which took place later
that day and the days that followed were overwhelmingly in
houses of worship.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
They were in churches. Family.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I have, you know, the last couple of weeks been,
you know, in an effort to like get my head
into this and appropriately remember what took place. I've been,
you know, watching stuff and reading things. And in the car,
I've been listening to a book. Let me get you the.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Name of it. I recommend it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's called The Only Plane in the Sky. It's an
oral history of 9-11. And in chronological order, it goes
through the first-person remembrances and recollections of people involved. And
one striking aspect of so many of the recollections is
that they focus on family, right? As the attack was underway,
(18:37):
people in the towers, people on the airplanes, immediately thought
of contacting family. If family was hugely important, I can't
tell you how many calls were received from the towers,
from at least one of the airplanes, of people just
(18:59):
feeling it hugely important to tell their families, I love you,
one last time. We spoke a little bit about this
one gentleman, Mr. Beamer, Todd Beamer. He's on the phone
with Mrs. Jefferson, the lady at the phone company. And
he makes her promise. He gives her the name of
(19:19):
his wife and his two little boys and little girl.
And he makes her promise. He gives the number. Please
tell them that I love them. Family was massively important.
There's one situation where people are coming down the stairs
in one of the towers. There's a person there, a heavier.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Person, older person.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's difficult for them to do that. It was a
lot of exertion to get out of the buildings or try.
And another office worker stops encouraging this person, you've got
to do it, you've got to do it, and ultimately says,
you've got to do it for your family. You've got
to see your family. You can't die. They can't lose you.
(20:05):
This man knew nothing about this fellow's family. But it
was family. What united us after September 11th? It was God, family, country.
And country, we came together like family under attack. We
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were red, white, and blue. We were USA. I've told
this story too many times. I'm standing in a fairly
long line at a convenience store in West Valley City, Utah.
a very, very racially diverse community. A lot of Asian people,
a lot of Latino people, a lot of Polynesian people.
And I'm, again, seven or eight people back in line
(20:47):
waiting to pay for my Gatorade, the only white person there.
And out comes the little clerk and lays a box
of American flag lapel pins on the counter. The line
collapses as everybody, everybody moves forward and reaches in and
we're each trying to get a flag lapel pin or
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two or three or whatever. We were one country. And
what is it that brought us together in the wake
of September 11th? It was exactly that. It was God, family,
and country. The bedrock principles which have always been our strength.
How can we be reunited again as a country? Well,
(21:35):
It will require all of us to place value in
those three bedrock principles. We all, again, as a country,
will need to value God, family, and country. And I
don't want to get political on this day, but I'd
like to point out to you that one of our
two dominant political philosophies, and I'm not saying that my
(21:57):
political party right now is doing very well. We've got
some problems, right? We're not following the rules. We're not
being the people we're supposed to be. at least in part.
But I want to point out that there is one
political philosophy in our country that is decidedly anti-God, anti-family,
and anti-country. And that is where our division arises. When
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we shared those three values, when we shared those three commitments,
we were one. Right? They are the glue God, family,
and country, which have ever held this nation together. With them,
we'll be fine. Without them, we will fall.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Without them, we are that proverbial building whose foundation is sand.
And so, next time you hear people say, oh, we
were united then, and why can't we be united now?
You and I have just gone over exactly why it
was And why right now it's not. And what needs
to happen for it to ever turn back around.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Road joke. I am grateful to Mr.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Lasky for picking up this story relative to Brandon Hampson.
I've been following this for a couple of days. Brandon Hampson, well,
was connected to a.
A prominent former law enforcement official here in town many
years ago and in 1994 in the fall of the
(25:03):
year he was living with this girl and he had
a baby with her and he attacked her assaulted her
with a hammer and a screwdriver and beat this poor
young lady she was just 20 And she had had
a baby, I think, just three months before. But he
(25:26):
beat her so savagely with this screwdriver and this hammer.
It left her with significant injuries to her back, her chest,
her head, and her inner ear. She had a punctured lung,
a sucking chest wound. She had a lacerated kidney. What
(25:47):
kind of a blow does it take to lacerate your kidney, right?
And she had two broken wrists. Again, imagine the pain
of that. Well, again, he beat her almost to death,
did this man, Brandon Hampson. The police, it was Chief Vocal.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Out of Brighton.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
He was on this like white on rice. Howard Relin
was the district attorney back then. He was on this
like white on rice. It was a horrible, horrible domestic
violence situation. The deal is, though, that the bad guy,
Brandon Hampson, oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. He proposed marriage
to the victim. They bought a wedding license over at
(26:33):
the clerk's office, and she refused to cooperate. In fact,
she ran off to Florida. Well, here's the deal. Howard
Rellen thought that some kind of statement needed to be made.
He was the district attorney.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
At the time.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Howard Relin with Chief Vocal had her arrested down in
Florida as a material witness and had her brought back
up here, and she still refused to cooperate. And so
instead of the attempted murder that Chief Vocal, Tom Vocal,
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and Howard Relin, the DA, wanted to bring against Brandon Hampson, the.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Most they could get was assault.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So this Brandon Hampson, I don't know what he got,
but the maximum sentence was three to nine that he
could have gotten. So that was back in 1995 when
this matter was resolved in the courts. Brandon Hampson went
away and sort of disappeared. He returns in prominence in
(27:42):
the news. There was, on the 3rd of September on
Long Island, a 62-year-old woman by the name of Rachel Frizzlett.
She was living with a man. She wanted to leave
him and go live with relatives of hers, and she
was found savagely stabbed to death. And I knew that
(28:08):
police investigators on Long Island immediately began, you know, suspecting
obviously her live-in boyfriend, Brandon Hampson, Inquiry was made to
people in our area who may have known in years
past Brandon Hampson. But finally, he was identified by the
(28:32):
authorities as a person of interest. And then Wednesday night,
local law enforcement in the state of Massachusetts developed information
that Brandon Hampson was at a motel in Massachusetts. They
went there. They identified him. He was outside of the
(28:52):
motel building. They verbally engaged him. He charged at them
with an edged weapon. This man wanted for a stabbing murder,
and Massachusetts police engaged him with their firearms, and he
was subsequently declared dead. Howard Relin said at the time
(29:13):
of the assault conviction, quote, Hopefully there will never be
repetition of conduct like this. I've seen cases where the
next step is murder. Those prophetic words from the DA
30 years ago have sadly proven true. Brandon Hampson continued
domestic violence and ultimately took a woman's life. It's time
(29:36):
now for news. Dave Debo will give that to us.
We'll be back when he's done. on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
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