September 15, 2026 • 31 mins
Bob talks to RPD Captain Frank Umbrino about Johnathan Shearin, Bob talks about the state regents exams becoming optional in 2027, Bob talks to Thad Brown about the Bills, and Bob talks about a Hochul clemency case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Debo, NewsRadio, wham, 1180. Next news at 1130, breaking news
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Bob Lonsbury. Starts now on NewsRadio, wham, 1180.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I appreciate that. Good morning, my friend. Thank you very
much for tuning in. It is a flat-out beautiful day
for a radio program. You heard a report in the
news there about a situation in which an elderly man
was stabbed savagely to death, allegedly by a parolee by
the name of Jonathan Sheeran. Learn more about that. We're
honored to be joined, truly honored to be joined by
(00:32):
the commander of the Rochester Police Department's Major Crimes Unit,
Captain Frank Umbrino. Sir, good morning and welcome to the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Good morning, Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Outstanding, sir. How about yourself? You doing well?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Good, good. I can't complain. I'm plugging along.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You periodically get to sleep and do other things like
normal people do, right?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, not as much as I would like to or
as much as I probably need, but I do get
some sleep. I actually get to golf once in a while, too.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There's no shame in that. A lot of people like that.
I don't understand them, but a lot of people do
like it. All that nonsense aside, and I apologize for
being flippant, but this situation relative to the death of
Mark Stekloff, please tell us about that, Captain.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Pretty disturbing and very sad. On July 3rd, I think
it was around lunchtime, a friend of Mark's went over
to his house to check on him. He had not
heard from him for several days. And when he got there,
what he found, you know, he will certainly never forget.
It was basically a horrible scene. Mark was found dead
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inside the apartment. He'd been stabbed. It was almost 40 times.
And it was a really, really ugly scene. He obviously
immediately called 911, and that's when we went down and
began our investigation.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If I could, I apologize. Tell us a little bit
more about Mark Steckloff. How big a man was he?
How old was he? What's his physical circumstance, please?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So Mark was 77 years old. He certainly appeared to
be in decent health. He could certainly care for himself
and get around just fine. I would be okay being
in his condition at 77 years old, honestly.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Good, good.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You know, clearly he was elderly and his physical capabilities
were limited. But, you know, he was in decent shape
for his age. And, you know, he was smaller in stature.
He was definitely a smaller guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And, again, a savagely horrible kid.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Not somebody that would be readily able to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Please go ahead. I apologize for interrupting you, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
No, no worries. So, obviously, the first thing that we
had to do is we had to try to figure
out exactly... when the incident happened.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Where Mark was brutally murdered.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We talked to a whole bunch of people that knew him.
Video surveillance review was a very big factor in this case.
And basically what we were able to narrow down was
the last time that Mark was seen alive was on
the 1st at about 8 o'clock in the morning. At
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that point, what we did see is we know that
he went out to, you know, bring his garbage cans
back in from the front of his house. And what
we also saw on that video was a picture of
a male who appeared suspicious to us in the video,
a white male. We actually have the photo that we
ended up ultimately sending out to the media. Reviewed that video.
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We were pretty confident we knew what happened. We found
some more video. and we were able to see that
same individual leaving in Mark's car. So basically what we
think happened is that there was a chance meeting between
the suspect, Jonathan Sharon, and Mark. I think Jonathan was
walking around the neighborhood at the time that Mark happened
to be bringing his garbage cans in. There was a brief,
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what appeared to be a friendly conversation, if you will,
and we think at that point Jonathan decided that's when
he was going to go in and brutally murder Mark
and steal his car. You know, what exactly the conversation
they had, you know, we don't know. My assumption is,
or my guess is, you know, based upon what I've
(04:23):
learned about Mark, you know, since then, is that Jonathan
could have asked him, you know, to use the phone,
to use the bathroom, something of that nature, and Mark,
being who he was, you know, very well may have said, yeah,
no problem. That's what we think had happened.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Do we allege, sir, that this Jonathan Sheeran Did he
bring the weapon with him? Did he take a knife
from the man's kitchen? Or where did the weapon come from, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
We're not quite sure of that, honestly. We don't know
for sure. He could have certainly had it with him,
or he could have gotten it from inside the house.
What we do know is that after he killed him,
he stole his car. A few days later, I think
it was on the 4th, we found the car abandoned
in the 1100 block of Hudson Avenue. With the help
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of video surveillance, retrieved from up in the 1100 block
of Hudson Avenue. We were able to kind of track
Jonathan's movements, if you will. We were able to recover
additional evidence that helped us in this case. You know,
we ultimately, we ID'd him. Honestly, we ID'd Jonathan pretty quickly.
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Once we obtained the video surveillance, we had some really
good pictures of him, and we learned that he was
arrested later that day On the 3rd, I'm sorry, yes,
and he was arrested in Wayne County where he did
three home invasions of elderly people, and he brutally assaulted
all of those victims as well.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think for a total of six people in those
three home invasions. And those may have occurred the day
after we allege that he murdered Mr. Steckloff, sir?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, what we believe is that after he killed, excuse me,
allegedly killed Mr. Steckloff on the 1st, He got a
ride from Rochester down to Wayne County where he committed
those assaults and home invasions. So we think it was,
you know, he killed Mark in the morning and he
went down and victimized those other people later on that evening.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
My gosh. My gosh. And an indictment came out yesterday,
and in your press release is how we came to
learn about it.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
So, again, we.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
identified him pretty quickly as our suspect. Because he was
in custody in Wayne County and he was not getting out,
that really gave us time to gather as much possible
evidence as we could. And we weren't in a rush
at that point because we knew that he wasn't getting out.
So working with the district attorneys down there as well
as our Monroe County district attorneys, we decided the best
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course of action was to present all the evidence that
we had gathered to a grand jury, and ultimately they
handed up the indictment, and he was arraigned on that yesterday.
It's very convenient for us. It makes it a lot
easier when the suspects are in custody. That allows us
to take our time to make sure that we have
all of our ducks in a row.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's Captain Frank Umbrino. His criminal background is what, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So he has a very extensive criminal background. He has
a ton of prior burglary arrests, assaults, unlawfully fleeing police.
He was paroled in, I believe it was April of 2026,
and that was on the burglary charge. He may have
actually maxed out because I think he was paroled previously
and he had violated and went back in. But he
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was paroled in April, and, you know, he definitely has
a very long criminal history.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Had he previously done crimes of violence, do we know, sir?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yes, yes. This was not the first time that he
had assaulted somebody. He obviously had never killed anybody before,
but this was not his first time victimizing somebody, assaulting them.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
We dodged a bullet with the poor victims in Wayne County,
it seems like.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, we certainly did. I'm not going to get into
the specifics of their cases, but kudos to the Sheriff's
deputies and the investigators that handled that case, they were
able to certainly arrest him later on that night. And
I'm sure by that arrest, we definitely provided additional people
from being victimized.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Captain Frank Ambrino commands a major crimes unit of the
Rochester Police Department. It kind of looks like from this narrative,
this is just a guy out there kind of on
the prowl looking for victims or targets. Does that happen?
Are there people like that who are just out there
In a predatory mode, sir, looking for victims?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Usually there's some underlying thing. We don't have a lot
of people going out that just want to hurt people
or kill people. Usually there's a mental health history. There's
a drug abuse history. It's usually fueled by something else.
We have a lot of evil people, but they're just
not going out randomly assaulting people. There's usually an underlying factor. Unfortunately,
(09:19):
mental health has been... and I'm not going to comment
specifically on this one, but I can tell you a
lot of this is fueled by mental health issues. People
are just not getting the help that they need. One
of the things now, say we do a mental hygiene
arrest on somebody, it's not uncommon for them to be
out within a couple of hours or even the next day.
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We've had multiple victims and suspects in murders where they
were just in the hospital for mental health reasons, and
the hospital discharged them because their hands are kind of tied.
So that's a huge, huge issue that we are facing.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Does the law, and I'm ignorant, but a mental hygiene arrest...
or whatever it's called now, does that allow for 48
or 72? Isn't there a number of hours that an
individual can be held? Is that right, sir?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You know, that's a great question, Bob, and I honestly
have no idea what it is now. We've had people
that have been mental hygiened two, three times in a
24-hour period and released. And to me, we're not helping
anybody by doing that. Obviously, they were brought to the
hospital for a reason, and you can't tell me that
they were cured in 2, 3, 4 hours or even
(10:31):
24 hours. We can't certainly lock up everybody under the
mental health law, but whatever we are doing is failing miserably,
and people are dying as a result of it.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's Captain Franco, Reno, the Rochester Police Department. Anything else
on this we should know, sir?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, the big thing, Bob, is obviously it's always good
work by the detectives, but it's also video is huge.
Private surveillance video cameras are a big help to us.
The city blue light cameras are a big help to us.
I know there's a lot of controversy at times on
these blue light cameras, but I'll tell you what, there
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is a lot of murders that would go unsolved if
we did not have the assistance of surveillance cameras. You know,
they are certainly not the be-all, end-all. You need other
things to be successful in arresting these people. But, you know,
the video surveillance is definitely a huge asset for us.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes, Captain Franco Brino. And you may not want to
comment on this or whatever. I'll bring up a different subject.
But with license plate readers, and I know that some
jurisdictions have them, some don't, some private properties will have them.
Would technology like that ever be useful to the type
of investigations that you do, sir?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh, my God, they're a huge asset for us. You know,
there are cases that we have solved as a direct
result of information that we've obtained off of license plate readers,
whether they were, you know, hits here locally or hits
out of state. They are a huge asset to law enforcement.
You know, losing those license plate readers will certainly hinder
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our investigations. And, you know, quite frankly, I can give
you multiple examples of cases that were broken open because
of information that we received off of these plate readers.
It's a huge asset to us. It's a huge asset
to the community in that it helps us get people
off the street that are violent and out there hurting people.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
100%.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's Captain Frank Umbrino. Sir, as always, appreciate the time
and appreciate everything that you and the officers, investigators you
lead do. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You betcha. Captain Frank Umbrino, Major Crimes Unit, Rochester Police Department.
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Welcome back i'm to be joined by that gentleman mr
thad brown sir welcome to the broadcast Morning, Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Good, brother.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You doing okay?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, doing all right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
A Thursday game week for me is kind of busy.
You take what you normally do in a football game
week over five or six days and compress it down
to three. So not my favorite week of the year
until we get to Friday morning, but managing just fine.
It's only a week or two.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, you'll do fine. You'll do fine. Sunday went great, huh, ultimately?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, at least the offense is out of the ball
for sure, and ultimately it's correct. Yeah, I think there's
a lot more to like than to be concerned about
out of this game. Look, the Texans' defense is supposed
to be one of the best in the league. If
the Bills to put 36 points on that team in
their building was very impressive. The Bills were hoping that D.J.
Moore could look like a number one receiver. He did
over and over. They got a really good game out
of Dalton Kincaid, and these are games we've seen and
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things we've seen Kincaid do. I think the goal this
year is for the Bills to see if they can
get him to do that more consistently. Part of that
is being healthy, which he is so far. But even
just the play on the field was really good. And
then Joe Brady's offensive game plan I thought was excellent.
Last year, the Texans' defense just destroyed Josh Allen. So
the Bills were like, hey, let's block him with more
or block those guys with more bodies. And it worked
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out great. They had tons of extra protection, allowed Josh
to find the time to have the time to find
guys he needed downfield. So just about everything on offense
was really, really good. Defensively, you're concerned because the Texans' offense,
unlike their defense, is not expected to be very good.
And to allow 30 points to that group is concerning.
There was miscommunication. There were a number of things that
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you would expect from week one with a new coach
and a new coordinator on that side of the ball.
But in addition, there just weren't enough overall, I think,
consistent success to where you feel like that this is
a quick fix. That, okay, we'll be better communicating next time.
We'll be fine. The Texans don't have a lot of
talented players. They ran the ball pretty effectively today. T.J. Stroud,
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who's not thought of as one of the best quarterbacks
in the league, certainly seemed comfortable in the pocket. The
pressure wasn't getting to him. And the miscommunication part comes
in mostly when it came to the coverage down the field.
So I think the good side of this is that
because the defense and what they're doing on that side
of the ball is new, you would anticipate that getting better.
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And on offense, which mostly, except for D.J. Moore, is
the same group they had, for them to look that
good week one and is something to be very excited about. But,
I mean, Bob, I could talk about the game for
three hours. It's the first game of the year. We're
going to play 16 more and learn a whole lot
more about this team starting on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is Channel 8 Sports Director Thad Brown, of course.
In anticipation of Thursday, what do we think there?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So the Lions played a really exciting game against the
Saints on Sunday, went to overtime. Their offense is pretty good.
I would take the over in this game. I think
there will be plenty of points. There generally are when
these two teams get together. The Bills look like the
better team right now. Again, we're still learning who everybody is.
But if the Bills can put, I mean, it's hard
for them to walk into any other game now the
Bills play and not think they're going to score 40
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on everybody because if they can put 36 on the Texans,
who is going to stop them? The Texans have the
best collection of talent the Bills are probably going to
see on defense all year. So I think that the
interesting part about this game is, okay, the Bills are
going to play a Detroit team that's normal, that's decent
on defense.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Not great.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
They've got good players, but not ridiculous like Houston is.
So what does that great offense look like? Can they
do the same thing again? Is it going to look
as good? Do they actually score 40 points on Detroit?
It wouldn't stun me. So that, I think, is going
to be the most interesting question to be answered about
this Bills team for the next couple weeks. And then
the other part of it on Thursday is first game,
new stadium. There's a new playing surface. We're going to
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all see the grass today. The Bills are practicing in
the stadium. So we'll talk to them about how the
new grass feels and all that stuff. But the environment,
how the fans react. I mean, there's been events in
that stadium so far. but none of them have been
like a real game. So there's a lot that is
going to be exciting to find out for the first
time when we get to Thursday night playing a game
in that stadium.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Thad Brown, of course, is Channel 8's sports director. The
governor's in town yesterday. One of the reporters asked her
about affordability for regular folks at the Bills games. That
is going to be an issue for some people, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It already has been. And I think really, you know,
I think the thing that you might have wrong there
is that it's a past tense thing that people have
decided that they can afford it or want to afford it,
have made that decision. I don't know how many or
how much interest there's going to be in individual game seats.
I'm sure that there will be. There's always a secondary market.
But it's going to be wildly expensive. I mean, I
was looking through a couple weeks ago. And except for
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the Jets game, which is the last game of the
year and the coldest part of the year, and a
game that's not even scheduled for a day yet because
of the way the NFL schedule works, that's the only
ticket that you can get anywhere in that building for
less than $ 500 a pop, the last I checked. So
this is how it works for new stadiums. Everything's going
to be expensive. There's going to be a level of
fan that's going to be priced out. And I think
that might be something that, you know, in a more blue-collar,
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smaller market area like Buffalo and Rochester and western New York,
it might be felt a little more strongly. But again, everyone,
I think, who had season tickets in the old building
had a chance to renew. The people that wanted to
take on the cost have, and a number of people haven't.
And this is just how it's going to be for
a while, at least, while this is still a new
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and exciting and novel stadium. It goes in most places,
and I'm not surprised it's going that way here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yes, Thad Brown, of course, from Channel 8. You talk
about Buffalo, Rochester, Western New York. What's the role of
the Canadian fan? How significant are those good folks for
this team, sir?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, I haven't seen a recent number on how much
it is. I think the last number I heard was
somewhere in the neighborhood of 20%. So there is a
good chunk coming down from the Toronto, Canada area. And
this goes back to why the Bills were playing games
there 15 years ago, because the NFL wanted to kind
of add that market into what Buffalo is a part
of and what what Buffalo can earn. So the Canada
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interest is absolutely there. The number that I gave you
might be a little high, but it is a pretty
sizable chunk.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, it's that Brown Channel 8. You can help folks
get ready for Thursday night, how, sir?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Bill's kickoff live, I think it's on at 6.30 before
the game, 8.15 start this weekend. Going to have coverage
on Rochester First streaming all week with BKL Nightly, and
then we'll have our recap show on that streaming platform
as well, also on the News 8 YouTube page. And
you can follow me on all my socials, ThadBrown7, just
about everywhere. And I will have all kinds of clips
and highlights and stuff going on from the stadium. It
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should be fun.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Outstanding, sir. Always appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Thanks for the time, Bob. You betcha.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Thank you for your time. That's Thad Brown. Real quick
before we go to listeners on the loose, Kathy Hochul,
not that long ago, about the middle of August or so,
she issued very quietly a list of six people to
whom she had granted pardons or clemency. I say very quietly.
She put out a press release. There was no secret
about it, but there is also no explanation attached to it.
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And the significance of one of those pardons, I think,
escaped most people. There was a lawsuit that was set
to be argued before the Supreme Court. In fact, a
date for the submission of briefs had already been issued.
And the court case had to do with a man
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who had been convicted of a violent felony assault in
the second degree in the state of New York. This
back some few years ago. He'd served 19 months in
prison and was released. And as immigration enforcement kicked in
with the Trump administration, it was, okay, here we have
a non-citizen convicted of a violent felony. Let's get rid
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of him. So they took him into immigration custody and
they held him. And there was a process that goes on.
And the deal is he thought, OK, I'm being held.
I want a bond hearing so I can post bail
if it's set. And the Trump administration's immigration people had said, no,
as a you're not a U.S. citizen, you are going
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to be deported. You're not eligible for a bond hearing.
So that matter was going to go to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court was going to decide whether or not
he had a right to a bond hearing. And I
guess that the progressives feared that. that the Supreme Court
would say that the Trump people were right. There is
not a right to a bond hearing there. So one
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of the people who was granted a pardon was a
gentleman named Casey Guerrero Mariano from the Dominican Republic. He
was granted a complete pardon. So all of a sudden,
he had no criminal record. And all of a sudden,
that criminal record being the grounds for holding him, that
Supreme Court case became moot. And it was a move,
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an effort by Governor Hochul to keep this issue from
being decided by the Supreme Court because presumably she and
other progressives didn't like the way they anticipated it was
going to be ruled. So at any rate, how many people, Americans,
have Assault II convictions in New York that she's not
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given any? a pardon to. Listeners on the loose is
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Giving an illegal pardon. Thank you, Kathy Hochul, for keeping
us safe. So, Kathy, Kathy, Kathy.
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A lot of good— listen, a lot of people do crimes, okay?
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And we kind of crashed there when Aubrey graduated. It
was a pleasant memory. Aubrey, by the way, yesterday came
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
I appreciate that. Good morning, my friend. Thank you very
much for tuning in. It is a flat-out beautiful day
for a radio program. You heard a report in the
news there about a situation in which an elderly man
was stabbed savagely to death, allegedly by a parolee by
the name of Jonathan Sheeran. Learn more about that. We're
honored to be joined, truly honored to be joined by
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the commander of the Rochester Police Department's Major Crimes Unit,
Captain Frank Umbrino. Sir, good morning and welcome to the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Good morning, Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Outstanding, sir. How about yourself? You doing well?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Good, good. I can't complain. I'm plugging along.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You periodically get to sleep and do other things like
normal people do, right?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, not as much as I would like to or
as much as I probably need, but I do get
some sleep. I actually get to golf once in a while, too.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There's no shame in that. A lot of people like that.
I don't understand them, but a lot of people do
like it. All that nonsense aside, and I apologize for
being flippant, but this situation relative to the death of
Mark Stekloff, please tell us about that, Captain.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Pretty disturbing and very sad. On July 3rd, I think
it was around lunchtime, a friend of Mark's went over
to his house to check on him. He had not
heard from him for several days. And when he got there,
what he found, you know, he will certainly never forget.
It was basically a horrible scene. Mark was found dead
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inside the apartment. He'd been stabbed. It was almost 40 times.
And it was a really, really ugly scene. He obviously
immediately called 911, and that's when we went down and
began our investigation.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If I could, I apologize. Tell us a little bit
more about Mark Steckloff. How big a man was he?
How old was he? What's his physical circumstance, please?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So Mark was 77 years old. He certainly appeared to
be in decent health. He could certainly care for himself
and get around just fine. I would be okay being
in his condition at 77 years old, honestly.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Good, good.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You know, clearly he was elderly and his physical capabilities
were limited. But, you know, he was in decent shape
for his age. And, you know, he was smaller in stature.
He was definitely a smaller guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And, again, a savagely horrible kid.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Not somebody that would be readily able to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Please go ahead. I apologize for interrupting you, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
No, no worries. So, obviously, the first thing that we
had to do is we had to try to figure
out exactly... when the incident happened.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Where Mark was brutally murdered.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We talked to a whole bunch of people that knew him.
Video surveillance review was a very big factor in this case.
And basically what we were able to narrow down was
the last time that Mark was seen alive was on
the 1st at about 8 o'clock in the morning. At
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that point, what we did see is we know that
he went out to, you know, bring his garbage cans
back in from the front of his house. And what
we also saw on that video was a picture of
a male who appeared suspicious to us in the video,
a white male. We actually have the photo that we
ended up ultimately sending out to the media. Reviewed that video.
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We were pretty confident we knew what happened. We found
some more video. and we were able to see that
same individual leaving in Mark's car. So basically what we
think happened is that there was a chance meeting between
the suspect, Jonathan Sharon, and Mark. I think Jonathan was
walking around the neighborhood at the time that Mark happened
to be bringing his garbage cans in. There was a brief,
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what appeared to be a friendly conversation, if you will,
and we think at that point Jonathan decided that's when
he was going to go in and brutally murder Mark
and steal his car. You know, what exactly the conversation
they had, you know, we don't know. My assumption is,
or my guess is, you know, based upon what I've
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learned about Mark, you know, since then, is that Jonathan
could have asked him, you know, to use the phone,
to use the bathroom, something of that nature, and Mark,
being who he was, you know, very well may have said, yeah,
no problem. That's what we think had happened.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Do we allege, sir, that this Jonathan Sheeran Did he
bring the weapon with him? Did he take a knife
from the man's kitchen? Or where did the weapon come from, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
We're not quite sure of that, honestly. We don't know
for sure. He could have certainly had it with him,
or he could have gotten it from inside the house.
What we do know is that after he killed him,
he stole his car. A few days later, I think
it was on the 4th, we found the car abandoned
in the 1100 block of Hudson Avenue. With the help
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of video surveillance, retrieved from up in the 1100 block
of Hudson Avenue. We were able to kind of track
Jonathan's movements, if you will. We were able to recover
additional evidence that helped us in this case. You know,
we ultimately, we ID'd him. Honestly, we ID'd Jonathan pretty quickly.
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Once we obtained the video surveillance, we had some really
good pictures of him, and we learned that he was
arrested later that day On the 3rd, I'm sorry, yes,
and he was arrested in Wayne County where he did
three home invasions of elderly people, and he brutally assaulted
all of those victims as well.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think for a total of six people in those
three home invasions. And those may have occurred the day
after we allege that he murdered Mr. Steckloff, sir?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, what we believe is that after he killed, excuse me,
allegedly killed Mr. Steckloff on the 1st, He got a
ride from Rochester down to Wayne County where he committed
those assaults and home invasions. So we think it was,
you know, he killed Mark in the morning and he
went down and victimized those other people later on that evening.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
My gosh. My gosh. And an indictment came out yesterday,
and in your press release is how we came to
learn about it.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
So, again, we.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
identified him pretty quickly as our suspect. Because he was
in custody in Wayne County and he was not getting out,
that really gave us time to gather as much possible
evidence as we could. And we weren't in a rush
at that point because we knew that he wasn't getting out.
So working with the district attorneys down there as well
as our Monroe County district attorneys, we decided the best
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course of action was to present all the evidence that
we had gathered to a grand jury, and ultimately they
handed up the indictment, and he was arraigned on that yesterday.
It's very convenient for us. It makes it a lot
easier when the suspects are in custody. That allows us
to take our time to make sure that we have
all of our ducks in a row.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's Captain Frank Umbrino. His criminal background is what, please, sir?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So he has a very extensive criminal background. He has
a ton of prior burglary arrests, assaults, unlawfully fleeing police.
He was paroled in, I believe it was April of 2026,
and that was on the burglary charge. He may have
actually maxed out because I think he was paroled previously
and he had violated and went back in. But he
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was paroled in April, and, you know, he definitely has
a very long criminal history.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Had he previously done crimes of violence, do we know, sir?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yes, yes. This was not the first time that he
had assaulted somebody. He obviously had never killed anybody before,
but this was not his first time victimizing somebody, assaulting them.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
We dodged a bullet with the poor victims in Wayne County,
it seems like.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, we certainly did. I'm not going to get into
the specifics of their cases, but kudos to the Sheriff's
deputies and the investigators that handled that case, they were
able to certainly arrest him later on that night. And
I'm sure by that arrest, we definitely provided additional people
from being victimized.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Captain Frank Ambrino commands a major crimes unit of the
Rochester Police Department. It kind of looks like from this narrative,
this is just a guy out there kind of on
the prowl looking for victims or targets. Does that happen?
Are there people like that who are just out there
In a predatory mode, sir, looking for victims?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Usually there's some underlying thing. We don't have a lot
of people going out that just want to hurt people
or kill people. Usually there's a mental health history. There's
a drug abuse history. It's usually fueled by something else.
We have a lot of evil people, but they're just
not going out randomly assaulting people. There's usually an underlying factor. Unfortunately,
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mental health has been... and I'm not going to comment
specifically on this one, but I can tell you a
lot of this is fueled by mental health issues. People
are just not getting the help that they need. One
of the things now, say we do a mental hygiene
arrest on somebody, it's not uncommon for them to be
out within a couple of hours or even the next day.
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We've had multiple victims and suspects in murders where they
were just in the hospital for mental health reasons, and
the hospital discharged them because their hands are kind of tied.
So that's a huge, huge issue that we are facing.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Does the law, and I'm ignorant, but a mental hygiene arrest...
or whatever it's called now, does that allow for 48
or 72? Isn't there a number of hours that an
individual can be held? Is that right, sir?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You know, that's a great question, Bob, and I honestly
have no idea what it is now. We've had people
that have been mental hygiened two, three times in a
24-hour period and released. And to me, we're not helping
anybody by doing that. Obviously, they were brought to the
hospital for a reason, and you can't tell me that
they were cured in 2, 3, 4 hours or even
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24 hours. We can't certainly lock up everybody under the
mental health law, but whatever we are doing is failing miserably,
and people are dying as a result of it.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's Captain Franco, Reno, the Rochester Police Department. Anything else
on this we should know, sir?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, the big thing, Bob, is obviously it's always good
work by the detectives, but it's also video is huge.
Private surveillance video cameras are a big help to us.
The city blue light cameras are a big help to us.
I know there's a lot of controversy at times on
these blue light cameras, but I'll tell you what, there
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is a lot of murders that would go unsolved if
we did not have the assistance of surveillance cameras. You know,
they are certainly not the be-all, end-all. You need other
things to be successful in arresting these people. But, you know,
the video surveillance is definitely a huge asset for us.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes, Captain Franco Brino. And you may not want to
comment on this or whatever. I'll bring up a different subject.
But with license plate readers, and I know that some
jurisdictions have them, some don't, some private properties will have them.
Would technology like that ever be useful to the type
of investigations that you do, sir?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh, my God, they're a huge asset for us. You know,
there are cases that we have solved as a direct
result of information that we've obtained off of license plate readers,
whether they were, you know, hits here locally or hits
out of state. They are a huge asset to law enforcement.
You know, losing those license plate readers will certainly hinder
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our investigations. And, you know, quite frankly, I can give
you multiple examples of cases that were broken open because
of information that we received off of these plate readers.
It's a huge asset to us. It's a huge asset
to the community in that it helps us get people
off the street that are violent and out there hurting people.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
100%.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's Captain Frank Umbrino. Sir, as always, appreciate the time
and appreciate everything that you and the officers, investigators you
lead do. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You betcha. Captain Frank Umbrino, Major Crimes Unit, Rochester Police Department.
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Welcome back i'm to be joined by that gentleman mr
thad brown sir welcome to the broadcast Morning, Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
How are you?
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Good, brother.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You?
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You doing okay?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, doing all right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
A Thursday game week for me is kind of busy.
You take what you normally do in a football game
week over five or six days and compress it down
to three. So not my favorite week of the year
until we get to Friday morning, but managing just fine.
It's only a week or two.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, you'll do fine. You'll do fine. Sunday went great, huh, ultimately?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, at least the offense is out of the ball
for sure, and ultimately it's correct. Yeah, I think there's
a lot more to like than to be concerned about
out of this game. Look, the Texans' defense is supposed
to be one of the best in the league. If
the Bills to put 36 points on that team in
their building was very impressive. The Bills were hoping that D.J.
Moore could look like a number one receiver. He did
over and over. They got a really good game out
of Dalton Kincaid, and these are games we've seen and
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things we've seen Kincaid do. I think the goal this
year is for the Bills to see if they can
get him to do that more consistently. Part of that
is being healthy, which he is so far. But even
just the play on the field was really good. And
then Joe Brady's offensive game plan I thought was excellent.
Last year, the Texans' defense just destroyed Josh Allen. So
the Bills were like, hey, let's block him with more
or block those guys with more bodies. And it worked
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out great. They had tons of extra protection, allowed Josh
to find the time to have the time to find
guys he needed downfield. So just about everything on offense
was really, really good. Defensively, you're concerned because the Texans' offense,
unlike their defense, is not expected to be very good.
And to allow 30 points to that group is concerning.
There was miscommunication. There were a number of things that
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you would expect from week one with a new coach
and a new coordinator on that side of the ball.
But in addition, there just weren't enough overall, I think,
consistent success to where you feel like that this is
a quick fix. That, okay, we'll be better communicating next time.
We'll be fine. The Texans don't have a lot of
talented players. They ran the ball pretty effectively today. T.J. Stroud,
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who's not thought of as one of the best quarterbacks
in the league, certainly seemed comfortable in the pocket. The
pressure wasn't getting to him. And the miscommunication part comes
in mostly when it came to the coverage down the field.
So I think the good side of this is that
because the defense and what they're doing on that side
of the ball is new, you would anticipate that getting better.
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And on offense, which mostly, except for D.J. Moore, is
the same group they had, for them to look that
good week one and is something to be very excited about. But,
I mean, Bob, I could talk about the game for
three hours. It's the first game of the year. We're
going to play 16 more and learn a whole lot
more about this team starting on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is Channel 8 Sports Director Thad Brown, of course.
In anticipation of Thursday, what do we think there?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So the Lions played a really exciting game against the
Saints on Sunday, went to overtime. Their offense is pretty good.
I would take the over in this game. I think
there will be plenty of points. There generally are when
these two teams get together. The Bills look like the
better team right now. Again, we're still learning who everybody is.
But if the Bills can put, I mean, it's hard
for them to walk into any other game now the
Bills play and not think they're going to score 40
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on everybody because if they can put 36 on the Texans,
who is going to stop them? The Texans have the
best collection of talent the Bills are probably going to
see on defense all year. So I think that the
interesting part about this game is, okay, the Bills are
going to play a Detroit team that's normal, that's decent
on defense.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Not great.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
They've got good players, but not ridiculous like Houston is.
So what does that great offense look like? Can they
do the same thing again? Is it going to look
as good? Do they actually score 40 points on Detroit?
It wouldn't stun me. So that, I think, is going
to be the most interesting question to be answered about
this Bills team for the next couple weeks. And then
the other part of it on Thursday is first game,
new stadium. There's a new playing surface. We're going to
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all see the grass today. The Bills are practicing in
the stadium. So we'll talk to them about how the
new grass feels and all that stuff. But the environment,
how the fans react. I mean, there's been events in
that stadium so far. but none of them have been
like a real game. So there's a lot that is
going to be exciting to find out for the first
time when we get to Thursday night playing a game
in that stadium.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Thad Brown, of course, is Channel 8's sports director. The
governor's in town yesterday. One of the reporters asked her
about affordability for regular folks at the Bills games. That
is going to be an issue for some people, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It already has been. And I think really, you know,
I think the thing that you might have wrong there
is that it's a past tense thing that people have
decided that they can afford it or want to afford it,
have made that decision. I don't know how many or
how much interest there's going to be in individual game seats.
I'm sure that there will be. There's always a secondary market.
But it's going to be wildly expensive. I mean, I
was looking through a couple weeks ago. And except for
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the Jets game, which is the last game of the
year and the coldest part of the year, and a
game that's not even scheduled for a day yet because
of the way the NFL schedule works, that's the only
ticket that you can get anywhere in that building for
less than $ 500 a pop, the last I checked. So
this is how it works for new stadiums. Everything's going
to be expensive. There's going to be a level of
fan that's going to be priced out. And I think
that might be something that, you know, in a more blue-collar,
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smaller market area like Buffalo and Rochester and western New York,
it might be felt a little more strongly. But again, everyone,
I think, who had season tickets in the old building
had a chance to renew. The people that wanted to
take on the cost have, and a number of people haven't.
And this is just how it's going to be for
a while, at least, while this is still a new
(20:50):
and exciting and novel stadium. It goes in most places,
and I'm not surprised it's going that way here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yes, Thad Brown, of course, from Channel 8. You talk
about Buffalo, Rochester, Western New York. What's the role of
the Canadian fan? How significant are those good folks for
this team, sir?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, I haven't seen a recent number on how much
it is. I think the last number I heard was
somewhere in the neighborhood of 20%. So there is a
good chunk coming down from the Toronto, Canada area. And
this goes back to why the Bills were playing games
there 15 years ago, because the NFL wanted to kind
of add that market into what Buffalo is a part
of and what what Buffalo can earn. So the Canada
(21:28):
interest is absolutely there. The number that I gave you
might be a little high, but it is a pretty
sizable chunk.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, it's that Brown Channel 8. You can help folks
get ready for Thursday night, how, sir?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Bill's kickoff live, I think it's on at 6.30 before
the game, 8.15 start this weekend. Going to have coverage
on Rochester First streaming all week with BKL Nightly, and
then we'll have our recap show on that streaming platform
as well, also on the News 8 YouTube page. And
you can follow me on all my socials, ThadBrown7, just
about everywhere. And I will have all kinds of clips
and highlights and stuff going on from the stadium. It
(22:00):
should be fun.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Outstanding, sir. Always appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Thanks for the time, Bob. You betcha.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Thank you for your time. That's Thad Brown. Real quick
before we go to listeners on the loose, Kathy Hochul,
not that long ago, about the middle of August or so,
she issued very quietly a list of six people to
whom she had granted pardons or clemency. I say very quietly.
She put out a press release. There was no secret
about it, but there is also no explanation attached to it.
(22:27):
And the significance of one of those pardons, I think,
escaped most people. There was a lawsuit that was set
to be argued before the Supreme Court. In fact, a
date for the submission of briefs had already been issued.
And the court case had to do with a man
who was not a citizen of the United States and
(22:50):
who had been convicted of a violent felony assault in
the second degree in the state of New York. This
back some few years ago. He'd served 19 months in
prison and was released. And as immigration enforcement kicked in
with the Trump administration, it was, okay, here we have
a non-citizen convicted of a violent felony. Let's get rid
(23:13):
of him. So they took him into immigration custody and
they held him. And there was a process that goes on.
And the deal is he thought, OK, I'm being held.
I want a bond hearing so I can post bail
if it's set. And the Trump administration's immigration people had said, no,
as a you're not a U.S. citizen, you are going
(23:34):
to be deported. You're not eligible for a bond hearing.
So that matter was going to go to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court was going to decide whether or not
he had a right to a bond hearing. And I
guess that the progressives feared that. that the Supreme Court
would say that the Trump people were right. There is
not a right to a bond hearing there. So one
(23:57):
of the people who was granted a pardon was a
gentleman named Casey Guerrero Mariano from the Dominican Republic. He
was granted a complete pardon. So all of a sudden,
he had no criminal record. And all of a sudden,
that criminal record being the grounds for holding him, that
Supreme Court case became moot. And it was a move,
(24:20):
an effort by Governor Hochul to keep this issue from
being decided by the Supreme Court because presumably she and
other progressives didn't like the way they anticipated it was
going to be ruled. So at any rate, how many people, Americans,
have Assault II convictions in New York that she's not
(24:40):
given any? a pardon to. Listeners on the loose is
next on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
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Giving an illegal pardon. Thank you, Kathy Hochul, for keeping
us safe. So, Kathy, Kathy, Kathy.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
A lot of good— listen, a lot of people do crimes, okay?
There are people out there, New Yorkers, who have committed
assault who may have shown by years of good citizenship
that they're worthy of a pardon. They didn't get one.
This guy, a foreign citizen, did because Hochul was trying
to make political points.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Hello, you're on NewsRadio WHAM 1180. Yeah, hi, Bob.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's the big guy, allegedly. Sure, yeah.
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Oh.
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The check stopped coming.
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Jill told me I'm not president anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
She may be mistaken. President Biden and Dr. Jill were
at the ceremony on Friday, and Joe Biden looked okay.
He's a man with stage four cancer. He's in a
tough position, but he looked okay. He's still got some
flesh on his bones. He looked much as he looked
(27:34):
while he was in the last year or so of
being in office.
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Uh see a cost analysis that bill grace did and
they figured it was cheaper for them to pay to
have Midtown torn down than provide you with free food
every day because they saw what you did to Hagedorn's.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
The interesting thing, Hagedorn's, that's all part of the same family.
Hagedorn's is a great organization. But the deal is Mike
DiGiorgio and I, who produced the program back in the day,
We went down to Bill– no, they said you can
sign for food. No, we'll give you free food. And
Mike and I said, well, thank you very much. And
we went down there every day. And I haven't done
(28:37):
an ad for Bill Gray's in maybe 20 years, but
I could do one from memory right now. We explored
every nook and cranny of that menu, and we enjoyed
every place we explored. It was– those were the good
old days. Hello, you're on NewsRadio WHAM 1180.
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Hello.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Good morning, Bob. This is Nancy. And I'm calling because
I wanted to thank you for reminiscing this morning. It
brought back many pleasant memories of that trip to Fort
Jackson with you and your family.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That's so kind of you. That's Colonel Nancy there, who,
by the way, was down there. And she, being a
full bird colonel, got quarters, like very cool quarters there.
And we kind of crashed there when Aubrey graduated. It
was a pleasant memory. Aubrey, by the way, yesterday came
(29:34):
in from a month plus in the field, and she
soon will be transitioning from the 82nd Airborne. in Fort Bragg,
North Carolina. She's going to go out to Fort Sill,
Oklahoma and teach in the artillery school.
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Hello, you're on news radio WHAM 1180.
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And you're also the reason Bill Grace took the hot
roast beef sandwich off the menu because it was so expensive.
You ordered that every day.
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Let me tell you, a hot roast beef sandwich is
a pretty gosh dang good thing. And not to put
in a plug for one particular place, but I literally
will not drive through Batavia without stopping at the Polka
Dot to get a beef on a wick. And I'd
like fries with gravy. And yes, please, I'd like the
(30:20):
gravy on top. Thank you very much. And you know what?
If no one else is around and maybe I'm feeling
a little blue, I'll raise my hand and I'll go, Miss,
may I have a second beef on wick, please?
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I'll do it.
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What the hell? Why not?
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Got to run. God bless you. Keep your chin up.
And God bless the United States of America. News is next. Then,
you know, I'll be back here tomorrow morning, 8 till
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