May 23, 2023 • 19 mins
George Noory and psychic medium Carole Obley explore her career communicating with the spirits of dead people, why spirits often try to send us messages in our dreams, and her enlightening experiences with astral travel and sacred geometry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and area
with Carol. I'll be back with us our latest work,
Wisdom from the Spirit World.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Carol, welcome back, Good evening, George.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good to have you with us. A great spiritual medium
and author that you are. You've been the bridge between
heaven and Earth and over fourteen thousand groups and readings.
I bet that number is.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Even higher now it is, that's an approximation.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, good for you. Let's do.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Not a whole lot as far as you know, producing
a new book, although I'm working on that now. As
you know, that takes time, and I continue to do
readings and mediumship.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good for you, Good for you. Did The spirits use
dreams a lot to communicate with us.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
They do, that is one of the ways. And the
reason for that is is because it's easier. Simply put,
it's easier for them to reach us that way. And
if we're talking about deceased loved ones, it's really at
their discretion. I've discovered that we can't really initiate that.
(01:19):
In other words, the dreamer can't make that happen. That's
usually always at their discretion. Now there's also communication with
our spirit guides, those souls who help us on our pathway,
and I have personally had experiences with that. It's fascinating
(01:39):
and not even knowing who these folks really are, but
having an interchange with them. In exchange and the spiritual
communication that takes place is it's really emanating from outside
of the rational mind, So it's not coming from our
(02:00):
you know, our thinking mind. It's coming from the soul
itself or the connection the awareness of the soul.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Which is very deep by that happening that way, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It is, And it's something that there are many different
types of those types of dreams, but it's something that
once this occurs, you won't forget it. They're pretty profound
and they oftentimes communicate information in a way that you know,
(02:34):
we don't normally get and it's from that very profound
and deep level of the spiritual self.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Carol, When we talk about spiritual communication, what do we mean?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So it's just that it's information that we're getting, we're
receiving that's emanating from outside of our rational mind, so
from the unconscious, which is actually part of everything. You know,
we kind of are a part of that. The totality
(03:15):
of consciousness and our subconscious mind is part of that.
And so when we wink up in that way, when
we are receiving information in that way, we can receive
information from that higher source.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Carol's website soul Visions dot that is linked of at
coast tocostdam dot com. How did you get involved in
all of this in the first place.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You mean, in being a medium? Yeah, well, it's kind
of interesting. It was through a very bad situation in
my life, and you know, kind of a catastrophe and
it was a fire, and it burned me out of
the business that I was operating, and for about a
(04:07):
year or so, a little bit less than that, maybe
ten months or so, I floundered around and had no
idea what I was to do with my life. And
this was about thirty years ago that this occurred. And
I got a phone call and the phone call changed
my life because it was from a friend who's no
(04:28):
longer with us, and she invited me to a metaphysical
center in a small town near me, and I started
taking classes there and then I took other classes and
I began doing healing work, hands on healing, and that
(04:49):
took me into speaking mediumship and from there it's been
it's just blossomed. It's been one thing after another, writing books,
doing a lot of media. So it really came out
of something that was very bad for me, which that happened.
(05:12):
Sometimes we can make something positive out of you know,
it changes our life pathway, and certainly that fire changed
the pathway of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Did you escape the fire unscathed personally?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, This was in the middle of the night, so
I wasn't there. So I got a phone call about
four a m. And you know, there was really nothing.
The building was still there. I was an electrical fire
and one of the lights that we had there arcd
(05:50):
and it ignited a couch that we had there, and
so that took me out of that and so at
the time it was very devastating. But as I'm sure
some of your listeners now that out of a tragedy
like that or something very painful, something good can come.
(06:11):
And sometimes we need that extra kick, you know, from
God or the universe or spirit to move us in
a different direction. I believe in my heart that that's
really what happened there when.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We talk about spiritual dreams, Carol, what are they and
are there various types?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, there are several different types. And one of those
is and I'm sure some listeners have had these, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Precognizance, oh sure.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of knowing things ahead of time. And my personal theory
on that is that that prepares an individual for whatever
it is. So it could be the death of somebody,
it could be something in the outer world, you know,
something that is very life changing. So having this knowledge
(07:07):
ahead of the event I call precognizance. There's also spiritual study,
so when we actually travel and go to a school
of sorts in the spirit world and more learning things.
I've talked to many of my clients that have had
(07:29):
those sorts of things happen. We can also have prior
lifetime dreams, so I call those bleed throughs, and we
actually will know, you know, something will come up, usually
a theme from prior lifetime, something that perhaps we need
(07:51):
to do more work on in our current incarnation. But
we flash back to there because again that stored in
our subconscious in those things called I call them the
Acashic files. A lot of people have called them the
Acashic records, but it's the totality of everything that the
(08:12):
soul has done, So depending upon what comes up, we
could have that sort of prior lifetime flashback. Then there's
astral travel, and that's when we're actually coming out of
the body and we're traveling. Our consciousness is traveling and
(08:35):
we're going to a location and we're able to see
it from that higher perspective and we're able to know
things that without physically traveling there. And then there's this
very interesting thing that I've had happen, this phenomena of
(08:57):
sacred geometry, and that's where we're actually seeing geometrical shapes,
perhaps color, and there's information contained within those geometrical designs,
and I've had that happen. It doesn't happen frequently, but
(09:19):
when it does, it's through clairvoyance, which is seeing in
the mind's eye, and my theory on it is that
there's some sort of higher information from the soul being
communicated through that geometrical design.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's fascinating. You know, a lot of times our dreams
are based on events that happen when we're awake. A
lot of times they're not. Well, what does that tell
you about where dreams are centered? And focused Carol.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, absolutely, we can have dreams that are based on
what happened during the day or something that we need
to rationally process or emotionally process. Those I feel are
coming more from our day to day living and from
our rational mind. Spiritual dreaming is much deeper than that,
(10:19):
so we can have both of those. With spiritual communication,
we're actually connecting with that part of us that is
indestructible upon death, and that's the soul itself and that
core consciousness. So those two types are the types that
(10:44):
people have. I would say probably that it's much more
common to have, you know, from our rational mind and
so forth. But these other things, when they happen, are
to me personally, when it's happened to me, very life
changing and can really create a breakthrough for us on
(11:06):
some level our spiritual growth.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Give us some of the examples if you can, of
spiritual communication during the dream state.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, this one is really interesting that I personally have
had and this was last year that this occurred, and
it was right upon falling asleep. I suddenly found myself
in a place and I'm just going to call it
(11:37):
a place because I have no idea where it was.
It was definitely not here on the earth. And there
were certain forms there. They were shapes like triangles and
you know, circles and things that I really I thought
were very peculiar to show up. And then there were
(12:00):
there were figures there and they appeared to me as
some sort of spiritual guides or higher masters, and they
had long robes on. And the most profound thing that
happened to me was the experience in this very short
(12:21):
window of time. It was less than a minute that
I felt completely liberated from my body and from my thoughts.
And I remember, you know, just experiencing this and saying
to myself, this is who I really am. This, this
(12:44):
experience is who I am apart from my personality, apart
from my day to day living. This this is a
liberating experience. And I remember experiencing that sort of free
them and I don't think language really does it justice.
It's really it was really a you know, a feeling
(13:08):
that I had. And then I was back into my
body and you know, I awoke and I thought, wow,
that was really profound. And that was the only time
that happened. So we can have those sorts of experiences
where we are we're aware of ourselves on that higher level,
(13:32):
beyond our body, beyond our personality, and beyond our rational mind. Also,
there are loved one visitations, and you mentioned this earlier.
This is where we will actually make contact with those
who are deceased. They're not here physically.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Why did they use the sleep state, Carol to communicate
with us?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, it's just a lot easier here. It's an in
between place, so kind of like mediumship. And that's why
mediumship is called mediumship because the person who is the
medium is meeting that person who is in the spirit world,
(14:20):
that soul in the middle, and the soul has to
low rise vibration in order to communicate. So there's that
meeting in the middle of those two worlds. So it's
the same way with dreaming that we connect with them
and oftentimes there's very little exchange but the presence of
(14:47):
that soul. And I've talked about this on the show
before that I had one of those with my late
grandmother who passed way back and I was in college
nineteen seventy seven, and she appeared, This was about fifteen
seventeen years after her passing, and there was no words,
(15:10):
there was nothing except a flow of love that I've
never felt ever being in my body, you know, through
my personality, I've never experienced that level or intensity of love.
So that is what I call a dream visitation, when
(15:32):
that soul is actually there with you and you recognize
them by that very profound level of the soul recognition. Now,
on the negative side, there's also nightmares or what I
have personally experienced, and maybe some of the listeners have
(15:54):
experienced these night terrors and paralysis, right, paralysis, Yes, And
I've had these since I was in my twenties. When
I started having them, Interestingly, I was getting into a
lot of trouble at that time in my life. I
was drinking heavily. This is when I was even before
(16:19):
twenty five years of age, So between twenty and twenty five,
I was drinking heavily and I experienced night hears. And
I have my own theory on that. I've read a
lot and I've heard people speak about them. I believe
that there is actually an entity that is present during
(16:41):
that and a lot of people experienced that, and so
I kind of put it in this category of spiritual
in that you know, it's out of the ordinary. It's
definitely not a mental or you know, an emotional processing
type of experience. When I have had these happen, I
(17:01):
perceive an entity that is there that is highly negative,
and a lot of other people who have had these
experienced that as well. Uh. It's also called the old
Hag syndrome.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Uh huh, of course, and.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's yeah, that's kind of a weird thing to call it,
but it's referring to the you know, that negative entity
kind of sits on.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Your chest and stifles you, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yes, And the paralysis. I have had these things where
I actually want to cry out or you know, scream,
and even my vocal cores are paralyzed.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Makes it even more frightening.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It does. And I had one in my again going
back into my twenties, where I perceived a an alien
that was in the room with me, I mean, you know,
like a gray a gray alien, and I was terrified,
absolutely terrified.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Was it just perception or was it possibly real?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I believe it may actually have been real, because I've
had I had one other experience in dream state where
I was with aliens, not the grays, but the Pleaadians,
And that's the only time that happened, and that was
much more positive. This one with the Grays was highly frightening,
(18:38):
and they were sort of just there again, no words exchanged,
but the experience was one where I was paralyzed and
you try to move, you even try to move a
leg or an arm, and you can't move. And sometimes
there's an electrical shock that a company staff. I've had
(19:01):
that happen as well.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast tocoastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and area
with Carol. I'll be back with us our latest work,
Wisdom from the Spirit World.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Carol, welcome back, Good evening, George.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good to have you with us. A great spiritual medium
and author that you are. You've been the bridge between
heaven and Earth and over fourteen thousand groups and readings.
I bet that number is.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Even higher now it is, that's an approximation.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, good for you. Let's do.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Not a whole lot as far as you know, producing
a new book, although I'm working on that now. As
you know, that takes time, and I continue to do
readings and mediumship.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good for you, Good for you. Did The spirits use
dreams a lot to communicate with us.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
They do, that is one of the ways. And the
reason for that is is because it's easier. Simply put,
it's easier for them to reach us that way. And
if we're talking about deceased loved ones, it's really at
their discretion. I've discovered that we can't really initiate that.
(01:19):
In other words, the dreamer can't make that happen. That's
usually always at their discretion. Now there's also communication with
our spirit guides, those souls who help us on our pathway,
and I have personally had experiences with that. It's fascinating
(01:39):
and not even knowing who these folks really are, but
having an interchange with them. In exchange and the spiritual
communication that takes place is it's really emanating from outside
of the rational mind, So it's not coming from our
(02:00):
you know, our thinking mind. It's coming from the soul
itself or the connection the awareness of the soul.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Which is very deep by that happening that way, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It is, And it's something that there are many different
types of those types of dreams, but it's something that
once this occurs, you won't forget it. They're pretty profound
and they oftentimes communicate information in a way that you know,
(02:34):
we don't normally get and it's from that very profound
and deep level of the spiritual self.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Carol, When we talk about spiritual communication, what do we mean?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So it's just that it's information that we're getting, we're
receiving that's emanating from outside of our rational mind, so
from the unconscious, which is actually part of everything. You know,
we kind of are a part of that. The totality
(03:15):
of consciousness and our subconscious mind is part of that.
And so when we wink up in that way, when
we are receiving information in that way, we can receive
information from that higher source.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Carol's website soul Visions dot that is linked of at
coast tocostdam dot com. How did you get involved in
all of this in the first place.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You mean, in being a medium? Yeah, well, it's kind
of interesting. It was through a very bad situation in
my life, and you know, kind of a catastrophe and
it was a fire, and it burned me out of
the business that I was operating, and for about a
(04:07):
year or so, a little bit less than that, maybe
ten months or so, I floundered around and had no
idea what I was to do with my life. And
this was about thirty years ago that this occurred. And
I got a phone call and the phone call changed
my life because it was from a friend who's no
(04:28):
longer with us, and she invited me to a metaphysical
center in a small town near me, and I started
taking classes there and then I took other classes and
I began doing healing work, hands on healing, and that
(04:49):
took me into speaking mediumship and from there it's been
it's just blossomed. It's been one thing after another, writing books,
doing a lot of media. So it really came out
of something that was very bad for me, which that happened.
(05:12):
Sometimes we can make something positive out of you know,
it changes our life pathway, and certainly that fire changed
the pathway of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Did you escape the fire unscathed personally?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, This was in the middle of the night, so
I wasn't there. So I got a phone call about
four a m. And you know, there was really nothing.
The building was still there. I was an electrical fire
and one of the lights that we had there arcd
(05:50):
and it ignited a couch that we had there, and
so that took me out of that and so at
the time it was very devastating. But as I'm sure
some of your listeners now that out of a tragedy
like that or something very painful, something good can come.
(06:11):
And sometimes we need that extra kick, you know, from
God or the universe or spirit to move us in
a different direction. I believe in my heart that that's
really what happened there when.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We talk about spiritual dreams, Carol, what are they and
are there various types?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, there are several different types. And one of those
is and I'm sure some listeners have had these, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Precognizance, oh sure.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of knowing things ahead of time. And my personal theory
on that is that that prepares an individual for whatever
it is. So it could be the death of somebody,
it could be something in the outer world, you know,
something that is very life changing. So having this knowledge
(07:07):
ahead of the event I call precognizance. There's also spiritual study,
so when we actually travel and go to a school
of sorts in the spirit world and more learning things.
I've talked to many of my clients that have had
(07:29):
those sorts of things happen. We can also have prior
lifetime dreams, so I call those bleed throughs, and we
actually will know, you know, something will come up, usually
a theme from prior lifetime, something that perhaps we need
(07:51):
to do more work on in our current incarnation. But
we flash back to there because again that stored in
our subconscious in those things called I call them the
Acashic files. A lot of people have called them the
Acashic records, but it's the totality of everything that the
(08:12):
soul has done, So depending upon what comes up, we
could have that sort of prior lifetime flashback. Then there's
astral travel, and that's when we're actually coming out of
the body and we're traveling. Our consciousness is traveling and
(08:35):
we're going to a location and we're able to see
it from that higher perspective and we're able to know
things that without physically traveling there. And then there's this
very interesting thing that I've had happen, this phenomena of
(08:57):
sacred geometry, and that's where we're actually seeing geometrical shapes,
perhaps color, and there's information contained within those geometrical designs,
and I've had that happen. It doesn't happen frequently, but
(09:19):
when it does, it's through clairvoyance, which is seeing in
the mind's eye, and my theory on it is that
there's some sort of higher information from the soul being
communicated through that geometrical design.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's fascinating. You know, a lot of times our dreams
are based on events that happen when we're awake. A
lot of times they're not. Well, what does that tell
you about where dreams are centered? And focused Carol.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, absolutely, we can have dreams that are based on
what happened during the day or something that we need
to rationally process or emotionally process. Those I feel are
coming more from our day to day living and from
our rational mind. Spiritual dreaming is much deeper than that,
(10:19):
so we can have both of those. With spiritual communication,
we're actually connecting with that part of us that is
indestructible upon death, and that's the soul itself and that
core consciousness. So those two types are the types that
(10:44):
people have. I would say probably that it's much more
common to have, you know, from our rational mind and
so forth. But these other things, when they happen, are
to me personally, when it's happened to me, very life
changing and can really create a breakthrough for us on
(11:06):
some level our spiritual growth.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Give us some of the examples if you can, of
spiritual communication during the dream state.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, this one is really interesting that I personally have
had and this was last year that this occurred, and
it was right upon falling asleep. I suddenly found myself
in a place and I'm just going to call it
(11:37):
a place because I have no idea where it was.
It was definitely not here on the earth. And there
were certain forms there. They were shapes like triangles and
you know, circles and things that I really I thought
were very peculiar to show up. And then there were
(12:00):
there were figures there and they appeared to me as
some sort of spiritual guides or higher masters, and they
had long robes on. And the most profound thing that
happened to me was the experience in this very short
(12:21):
window of time. It was less than a minute that
I felt completely liberated from my body and from my thoughts.
And I remember, you know, just experiencing this and saying
to myself, this is who I really am. This, this
(12:44):
experience is who I am apart from my personality, apart
from my day to day living. This this is a
liberating experience. And I remember experiencing that sort of free
them and I don't think language really does it justice.
It's really it was really a you know, a feeling
(13:08):
that I had. And then I was back into my
body and you know, I awoke and I thought, wow,
that was really profound. And that was the only time
that happened. So we can have those sorts of experiences
where we are we're aware of ourselves on that higher level,
(13:32):
beyond our body, beyond our personality, and beyond our rational mind. Also,
there are loved one visitations, and you mentioned this earlier.
This is where we will actually make contact with those
who are deceased. They're not here physically.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Why did they use the sleep state, Carol to communicate
with us?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, it's just a lot easier here. It's an in
between place, so kind of like mediumship. And that's why
mediumship is called mediumship because the person who is the
medium is meeting that person who is in the spirit world,
(14:20):
that soul in the middle, and the soul has to
low rise vibration in order to communicate. So there's that
meeting in the middle of those two worlds. So it's
the same way with dreaming that we connect with them
and oftentimes there's very little exchange but the presence of
(14:47):
that soul. And I've talked about this on the show
before that I had one of those with my late
grandmother who passed way back and I was in college
nineteen seventy seven, and she appeared, This was about fifteen
seventeen years after her passing, and there was no words,
(15:10):
there was nothing except a flow of love that I've
never felt ever being in my body, you know, through
my personality, I've never experienced that level or intensity of love.
So that is what I call a dream visitation, when
(15:32):
that soul is actually there with you and you recognize
them by that very profound level of the soul recognition. Now,
on the negative side, there's also nightmares or what I
have personally experienced, and maybe some of the listeners have
(15:54):
experienced these night terrors and paralysis, right, paralysis, Yes, And
I've had these since I was in my twenties. When
I started having them, Interestingly, I was getting into a
lot of trouble at that time in my life. I
was drinking heavily. This is when I was even before
(16:19):
twenty five years of age, So between twenty and twenty five,
I was drinking heavily and I experienced night hears. And
I have my own theory on that. I've read a
lot and I've heard people speak about them. I believe
that there is actually an entity that is present during
(16:41):
that and a lot of people experienced that, and so
I kind of put it in this category of spiritual
in that you know, it's out of the ordinary. It's
definitely not a mental or you know, an emotional processing
type of experience. When I have had these happen, I
(17:01):
perceive an entity that is there that is highly negative,
and a lot of other people who have had these
experienced that as well. Uh. It's also called the old
Hag syndrome.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Uh huh, of course, and.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's yeah, that's kind of a weird thing to call it,
but it's referring to the you know, that negative entity
kind of sits on.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Your chest and stifles you, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yes, And the paralysis. I have had these things where
I actually want to cry out or you know, scream,
and even my vocal cores are paralyzed.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Makes it even more frightening.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It does. And I had one in my again going
back into my twenties, where I perceived a an alien
that was in the room with me, I mean, you know,
like a gray a gray alien, and I was terrified,
absolutely terrified.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Was it just perception or was it possibly real?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I believe it may actually have been real, because I've
had I had one other experience in dream state where
I was with aliens, not the grays, but the Pleaadians,
And that's the only time that happened, and that was
much more positive. This one with the Grays was highly frightening,
(18:38):
and they were sort of just there again, no words exchanged,
but the experience was one where I was paralyzed and
you try to move, you even try to move a
leg or an arm, and you can't move. And sometimes
there's an electrical shock that a company staff. I've had
(19:01):
that happen as well.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
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