Kansas City Chiefs player Harrison Butker gets backlash for his comments

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This is a podcast from woor.It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's
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It's gonna be a huge show tonight. We're gonna have a long talk about

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nursery, rhyme, conservatism. Iam gonna talk about this Harrison Butker,
the comments this NFL player made.That'll be spicy. We're gonna open up
the show with that. We're gonnatalk about Mitt Romney and GOP leadership,
how they think about us, themass deportation plans apparently isis might attack Pride

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parades, and a gigantic lie thatwas told to everyone and I want a
reckoning for it. All that emailsso much more coming up tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Shaw. Iwant to begin here because this story has
got well what we journalists call legs. What Chris, It's got legs?

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What story is that? Harrison Butker, I, full disclosure, did not
know who he was because I stoppedwatching the NFL years ago. But he's
a punter or kicker or something forthe Kansas City Chiefs. He's also a
devout Catholic. He got up andhe gave a speech at a college graduation,

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a speech that is prompting national backlashto the point the Kansas City Chiefs
themselves are blasting him, the NFLis blasting him, every feminist and low
te dork on the right is blastinghim. And if you'd like to know
what he said, I feel likewe should play it and then have a

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discussion that will everybody here. Itis that policies and poor leadership have negatively
impacted major life issues. Things likeabortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia,
as well as a growing support fordegenerate cultural values in media. All stem
from the pervasiveness of disorder. Ourown nation is led by a man who

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publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith, but at the same time is delusional
enough to make the sign of theCross during a pro abortion rally. He
has been so vocal in his supportfor the murder of innocent babies that I'm
sure to many people it appears thatyou can be both Catholic and pro choice.
He is not alone from the manbehind the COVID lockdowns, to the

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people pushing dangerous gender ideologies onto theyouth of America. They all have a
glaring thing in common. They areCatholic. This is an important reminder that
being Catholic alone doesn't cut it.These are the sorts of things we are
told in polite society to now bringup, you know, the difficult and
unpleasant things. But if we aregoing to be men and women for this

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time and history, we need tostop pretending that the Church of Nice is
a winning proposition. We must alwaysspeak and act in charity, but never
mistake charity for cowardice. Okay,I've heard a lot of things I loved
there, didn't you wonderful statement?And that wasn't the only thing he said
that has people up in arms.He also got up and he spoke very,

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very boldly about the role of womenin society, in a family.
Here's what he said for the ladiespresent today. Congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.
You should be proud of all thatyou have achieved to this point in
your young lives. I want tospeak directly to you briefly because I think
it is you the women who havehad the most diabolical lives. Told to

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you, how many of you aresitting here now about to cross this stage,
and are thinking about all the promotionsand titles you are going to get
in your career. Some of youmay go on to lead successful careers in
the world, but I would ventureto guess that the majority of you are
most excited about your marriage and thechildren you will bring into this world.
I can tell you that my beautifulwife, Isabelle, would be the first

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to say that her life truly startedwhen she began living her vocation as a
wife and as a mother. I'mon this stage today and able to be
the man I am because I havea wife who leans into her vocation.
I beyond blessed with the many talentsGod has given me. But it cannot
be overstated that all of my successis made possible because a girl I met

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in band class back in middle schoolwould convert to the faith, become my
wife and embrace one of the mostimportant titles of all homemaker. Powerful stuff,
isn't it. You can tell bythe sound of a voice what she

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means to him. You can tell, right, So why am I looking
at headline after headline after headline?This from Daily Mail backlash against Harrison Butker
Groves. This is from The DailyBeast. One hundred thousand sign a petition
demanding the chiefs fire the kicker overdehumanizing speech. Kansas City Chiefs themselves actually

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revealed on their public social media accountwhich town he lives in. They essentially
doxed their own kicker. The NFLput out a lengthy statement earlier today condemning
his speech. Outright. This iswhat you heard if you turned into the
view why Colin Kaepernick was standing upfor the rights of many and saying in

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a social justice moment, this isa reminder that we're not there yet.
What this man is doing is notjust a devout Catholic. This is someone
who's practicing something called the traditional Latinmass Us, which is divergent from the
majority of Catholics. It's compared tobeing quote like and extremists like some religions
in the Middle East and Asia.So this is a very extreme religion.

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And what bothers me about that asa Christian is that when people abuse Christianity,
they often not only cherry pick fromthe Bible, they misinterpret and lie
by omission by taking out parts thatwould have explained something a little better.
So what I can say to him, as a Christian is if if you're
using this to a present, noticeall that are keep going. But notice

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how she keeps saying as a Christian, as a Christian, as a Christian,
Notice how she keeps saying that,what's she doing? What's she doing?
You already know, we talk aboutit all the time. What's she
doing? She's using your values againsther some people are hold them down.
You're not walking with Jesus. Ifyou are using the religion, if you
are more obsessed with the religious ritualsand practices than you are with the word

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of Jesus, you're not walking withJesus. And if you're using it for
the judgment of others and as aweapon to beat people down, you're also
walking with Jesus. So I wouldreally encourage him, really encourage him to
find the best parts of faith andnot diverge into extremists and believe, yes,
why such a backlash, Well,let's talk to you and me,

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because this is gonna this is gonnalead us directly into a nation. What
makes a nation, what breaks anation. It's going to lead us directly
into nursery rhyme conservatism, that's goingto be a consistent theme for a long
time. Why the backlash for somethingso wonderful, a wonderful, truthful speech,

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impactful. Why well, remember this, remember every now and then.
I shouldn't say every now and then, because it's the common thing. The
common theme throughout history is that nationsthemselves will either start out evil or they
will turn evil over time. Overtime, this has happened. There are

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a million examples. I could giveyou historical examples, whatever examples you want,
examples you already know. I don'thave to give you any examples.
You know nations will turn evil.You know what. Let's think it about
the Soviet Union. Well, that'san easy one. We hate commis.
I hate commies, You hate commis. The Soviet Union was a deeply evil

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place, and in the Soviet Unionit was well known. It's been written
about a million times. There wasnothing that could get you killed or sent
to a gulag faster than what tellingthe truth. When you live in a

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nation where everything is built on alie, where they promote lies, they
push lies without end. When youlive in a country like that, and
let me go ahead and do aspoiler for the for you, you now
do when you live in a nationthat is based on lies. The telling

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of truth is a dangerous thing,and it is something the demons despise.
They despise it. You tell peoplewho believe the sky is green, they'll
scream the sky is green. Andyou go up to those people and you
point to the sky and you say, no, the sky is blue.

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The reaction is not going to begrateful to you for revealing the truth to
them. The reaction is going tobe a collective boo and hiss at you
for daring to challenge the challenge theirlies, for daring to challenge their demonic
worldview, for daring to challenge Thesepeople who tell lies insist on you telling

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lies and smash anybody out there tellingthe truth you. We now live in
a system exactly like that, builton outright lies. And there is I
would venture to say, not asingle group of people who have been more
abused by the lies of this nationthan the women of this nation. Women

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have been abused by this country,and not at all in the handmade tale
they try to make you think.Let's talk about what this country has done
to women and why the backlash againstsomething so wonderful. Let's talk about that.
Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show, and I almost forgot to remind

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you that tomorrow. Tomorrow is andask doctor Jesse Friday, where we will
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it up about it. Let's goback to the lies. The society the
nation built on lies. Why sucha backlash against a man who clearly adores
his wife, praises her for makinga wonderful home for him, supporting him,
raising their children. And the backlashis so great I would venture to
guess that Harrison Buckner is probably goingto lose his job. Oh, I'll

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bet your money that guy will befired for this whole thing. Why the
backlash? Because the demons hate thetruth and women in the United States of
America have been abused. So let'sclear something up right now. Strong family
units, men marrying, women,staying married, making babies, and raising

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those babies have been the bedrock ofevery single successful society in the history of
mankind. It is something it's noteven you know, unique to the church
or something like that. Complete Paganshave always understood that men marrying, women,

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staying married, and making babies buildsstrong countries. You can read ancient
texts of kings encouraging their citizens getmarried, stay married, and make babies.
That is the bedrock of a society, the family unit. And you

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know what, let's pause on thatreally quickly before I go off on this.
You should understand if that's what youwant. If that's what you have
either of those things, then youwant something that is good or have something
that is good, and you shouldfeel good about it. But back to
that, that is the bedrock ofany society. It doesn't mean there's no

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room in a society for single peopleor people who make other choices. That's
wonderful too. People have different lives. But that is the bedrock of any
society. So if you are let'ssay, a demonic communist and you're looking
at a society let's call it America, and you want to bring it to

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its dag gone knees, what's thebest way you can do that? After
all, if you want to demoa building. Picture the Empire State Building.
Please don't go try to demo theEmpire State Building. But let's say
the Empire State Building, and youwant to bring the Empire State Building down.
Do you put all your explosives atthe top or do you put all
your explosives at the bottom. Youattack the bedrock. We have attacked the

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bedrock of this society endlessly, andhere's how we've done it. You want
to turn men and women against eachother. That way, they never get
together, they never get married,they never make those babies. But how
do you turn men against women?Well, there are obviously a million different
ways you can do that, andwomen against men. How do you get

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men and women at each other's throatsso they despise each other, so the
very prospect of marriage and kids ishorrible to them. Maybe they choose on
purpose to stay single. Maybe theygo join the air force quit I'm kidding,
but you understand what I mean.How do you do that? Well,

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there's an easy way you can dothat. You go tell all the
women that they should be just likemen. They should do the jobs men
do. They should they should justembrace the fact that I am a woman,
and I can do anything a mancan do. Well, you know
what, the last thing in theworld a guy wants is a woman trying

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to be one, And so soonthey find themselves at each other's throats.
All of a sudden, the familyunit has it's been shattered. The bedrock
of society is coming apart, andthe empire state building is coming down.
It has been an attack on women. The idea of feminism has always been

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evil. It's not just this thirdwave feminism or whatever they call it.
Feminism was evil from the get go. Why because feminism promoted the thing that
destroys everything. Equality. Because weare not equals. We're equal in the
eyes of God, Lord Willing,we are equal in the eyes of the

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law, although that's a laughable jokenow in this country. But two men
aren't equal, They're not the same. Chris isn't equal to me. I'm
not equal to Chris. Or Michael, you're not equal to me. I'm
not equal to you. Men andwomen are not equal either. They have
different skill sets, different things they'remeant for. There's a reason God made

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men differently than he made women.Not better, but not equal either.
Differently. But if you want toshatter the family unit in a society.
You lie to women without and youdon't need no man. You can do
anything a man can do. Yougo, girl, You could go work
ninety hours a week and still bejust as happy if if you lie,

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and you lie, and you lieand you lie, and soon you have
a society full of these women whoare in fact miserable and know they're miserable,
and they hear hard truths like thatabout a man who adores the ground
his wife walks on and praises herfor supporting him and lee and him being

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able to lean on her. Youhear that if you're one of these women
who's been lied to your entire life, and it's like somebody pouring fire down
the back of your shirt. That'swhy the reaction has been the way the
reaction has been, because there's nothing, no, nothing demons hate more than
the truth. And that brings usto nursery, rhyme conservatism. Oh,

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it's gonna be a spicy show tonight. Hang on, we'll talk about what
that is. It is the JesseKelly Show on a Thursday. Remember,
you can download a podcast of theshow if you miss any of it.
Iheard Spotify iTunes. We are havinga discussion about family units and culture,
and now we're gonna have a discussionabout nursery rhyme conservatism because there is something

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we must address, and we mustaddress it now. We cannot and should
not remain silent. There is astrain running through the right. A lot
of it is feminized American Christianity,which is not Christianity. A lot of

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it is what I call nursery rhymeconservatism, which kind of folds that in.
But there is this way of thinkingthat we should live at peace with
everybody. I cannot stand it.I despise the preaching in church church of

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nice hippie Jesus who never offended everyone. When Jesus was calling people hypocrites and
broods of vipers and running people outof churches with bull whips, but they
pretend like he was just some floweryhippie who was just laying down and taking
it. I despise it. Butthat is a huge part of what is
woven into nursery rhyme conservatism. That'swhat I call nurse That's why I call

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it nursery rhyme conservatism. The ideathat no matter what the demons are doing.
You should just be nice, justbe at peace. Don't speak out,
don't speak boldly, certainly, don'tever call anybody a name or anything
like that. Jesus would never dothat. He just called someone a root

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of vipers. It's called somebody afreakin' viper, But Jesus hippy. Jesus
wouldn't nursery rhyme. Conservatism is ahuge part of why the conservative movement has
not actually conserved a single solitary thing, because they believe there was a nice,
peaceful, hands off way out ofthis despicable mess we are in.

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We must be conquerors and develop themindset of conquerors, and we must be
as bold as Harrison. Butker ishere. My admiration for this man is
overflowing, because I am about onehundred percent sure he just cost himself his
entire career by standing up and tellingthe truth about what the demons are doing

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in this society. We must developteeth. We must turn our plows into
sword. We must go out andspeak boldly on behalf of the innocent,
on behalf of women, on behalfof children. We must go out and
speak boldly about what culture should beand what it should not be. We

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are not going to nice our wayinto having a country that we want to
have. We have a nation rightnow where doctors, parents, and schools
are chopping the breasts off of teenagegirls routinely. We have a nation now
where if you turn on NBC Newsat night, you'll be treated to nature

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documentaries. Like everything you had toldus a kid is wrong. You make
me want to gay penguins, bisexuallions, sex changing clownfish. This is
a queer planet. Queenness has alwaysexisted. It's only in humans that we
have such a stigma about it.The idea of just having two fixed sexes
is clearly. You're all disgusting,and you discs gust me. And the

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idea of that stuff being on televisionsets, beamed into the eyes of men,
women, and more importantly children,is grotesque to me, and it
makes me want to vomit. AndI will not be quiet, and I
will not be nice about it,and I will not tell you it's okay,
and I will not tell you thatyou're doing fine. And no we

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are not friends, and yes,I would love to live peacefully with you
if you change your ways, butyou are not going to try to destroy
the women and children of this countryand then find a friend in me.
We are not friends. We areenemies, and we have to develop a
mindset of making enemies. If you'reout there living in this country and you're

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not making any enemies, you aredead freaking wrong. Let me ask you
something. You ever heard of theValley of the Shadow of Death. Everyone's
heard that Psalm twenty three. Everyoneknows that King David on the run Valley
of the Shadow of Death. Chrisand Michael will remember this. Remember when
we went there in Israel. Welooked down on it. It's an actual

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place. Did you know that?I didn't know that. I'm embarrassed to
say I didn't know that. It'sa place and you look down into it
and there's this canyon. It's noteven a valley, it's a gorge.
It's a canyon, and if youlook down, it's actually really cool.
There's a monastery built into the sideof the mountain where these monks lived to
this day. I don't even thinkthey have electricity. They just lived there

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and they pray and they sing,and then they do these things all day
long. Okay, that's what theydo. Okay, So there's those guys.
That's the monk. Then there's theNYPD cop. He works in Harlem
every single day. He has toarrest people, hurt people. He broke

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some guy's arm last month. Lastnight there was a scuffle, there was
an attack, and he shot andkilled somebody last night. Let me ask
you something. Do you believe themonk who has pulled himself out of the
world and sits there in his littlecave. Do you believe that he is

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a better, more moral, moreholy person than the NYPD cop who just
shot somebody last night. If youdo, that's where we differ, and
that's nursery rhyme conservatism. We mustfight back and fight back with teeth.
We have got to drop this mindsetof just living with these people and instead

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we have to take their power awayfrom them. And you know what,
that involves making enemies. That involvestaking something that belongs to someone else,
not bending over for him, takingsomething that belongs to someone else. Right
now, as a communist in yourfreaking area, and he sits on the

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school board, he sits on theparks department, he's on the city council,
he's on the ho Way he's teachingat your child's school. He's doing
things, evil things in the society, and he doesn't want to live peacefully
with you. He wants to destroyyou. He wants to destroy your women,
he wants to destroy your children,and he intends to do this unless

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you step up and stop him.And you're not going to reason with him,
and you're not going to nice yourway out of it. You are
going to go make an enemy ofhim and rip the power from his fingers,
or you will die and you willlose. In more importantly, your
children will be destroyed. I amsorry. I do not believe it is

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moral to sit on the sidelines.I do not believe it is right.
I think it is despicable. AndI think so much of the nursery rhyme
conservatism, that's not who we are, my principles. I think so much
of that stuff. Here's the truth. I think it's a cloak for cowardice.
I think turn the other cheekhism isa cloak for cowardice. And no,

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I'm not talking about the Bible verseor the words of Jesus. I'm
talking about the fact that that appearsto be the only verse in the Bible
anyone's ever read in the American churchtoday, Well, we just got to
turn to cheat guys. Really,I just read a story this morning.
You know, I'm not exactly asensitive soul, and I'll be honest with
you, I got legitimately choked upabout it. It was a fifteen year

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old girl and they chopped their breastsoff because they convinced her that she was
a boy. Now she's an adultwoman and she lives in anguish, not
just physical anguish, emotional anguish becauseof the things they did to her.
They will never allow her to havechildren, and that's what she wants.

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She wants a husband and children.Obviously she's a woman. And maybe you
think that you should be nice tothe people who did that to her.
I think we should be mean.I think those people who did that to
that little girl are deeply evil andbroken, and I wish they weren't evil

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and broken. I hope they comearound, But whether they do or don't,
I think those people deserve to bepunished for what they did. And
I believe I'm right when I saythat nursery rhyme, conservatism, you can
stuff it. I'm not better thanthat. When you're fighting monsters. Be
careful you don't become one. Howabout you go become one and defeat the

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evil people in this society. Gorun some dirtball comie after school board.
You feel better about yourself. Allright. One last thing is I'm gonna
rant on Mike Johnson in a moment. Gosh, you want to talk about
the best example of this I've everseen in the world. Before we get
to Mike Johnson, let's get topreparations you need to be making. I

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had I talked to Senator Ron Johnsonyesterday Wisconsin, and you know how we're
always ranting about the debt and deficitand what it's gonna mean and stuff.
And he used the word debt bomb. He said, there's a debt bomb
coming and people just do not grasphow bad it's going to get when it
gets here. Buy some gold orsilver coins. You don't have to go

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crazy, don't go crazy, Justget some basics whatever you can do comfortably.
Call Oxford Gold Group and get someprecious metals of some kind in your
hand. I'm not telling you tobuild a nuclear bunker and unload your life
savings at Oxford Gold. I wouldnever say that, get some in your
four to one k, your IRA, get some in your physical possession.

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Prepare as if a debt bomb hasbeen dropped and it's gonna explode at some
point in time because it has Calleight three three Oxford Gold Group. We'll
be back. I've got on thatEMO is the Jesse Kelly's Show on a
Thursday, reminding you to email yourask doctor, asked doctor, question,

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ask doctor Jesse questions for tomorrow emailthem and now to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow
dot com. And yes, westarted out talking about Harrison Butker and you
don't hear me praise very many menon the show. I have so much
admiration for that guy speaking out aboutfamily, in life, in motherhood,
in abortion. And I have somuch admiration for it because I believe you

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just cost himself his job. Ittakes some courage to speak out and cost
yourself your livelihood, how you payyour mortgage. And there are so many
guys who cave to the rage mob. Remember Anthony Bass. Anthony Bass was
a pitcher in the major leagues MajorLeague Baseball, and Anthony Bass, he
was a little mortified by the budLights stuff and he spoke out, just

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put something on social media against thatstuff, and then they threatened Anthony Bass
with his job. Anthony Bass putout this video and I just want to
clue you in before before we playit. He's still has gotten not gotten
another job in the major leagues tothis day. So he not only cost
himself his career, he laid downfor them. I recognized yesterday I made

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a post that was hurtful to thePride community which includes friends of mine and
post family members of mine, andI am truly sorry for that. I
just spoke with my teammates, tookand share with them my actions yesterday.
I apologized with them and as rightnow, I'm using the Blue Jays resources
to better educate myself. Let's makebetter decisions moving forward. The ballpark is

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for everybody. We include all fansat the ballpark and me when they welcome
everybody. That's why I admire HarrisonButker. When faced with the end of
a professional sports career. What wouldbe greater than that, Harrison Bucker chose
to be bold. Now back tonursery rhyme conservatism. I saw I commented

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on this the other day that MikeJohnson showed up in New York City to
support Donald Trump during his trial.And I just I cannot stomach this way
of thinking. It is so commonon the right and it makes me want
to vomit. He was asked,Okay, well, why don't you defund

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Jack Smith. You are the speakerof the House. The House of Representatives
controls the purse. The truth isthat the House of Representatives is significantly more
powerful than the presidency. It reallyis, and it always was supposed to
be. Jefferson talked about it allthe time. The House of Representatives is
everything. You, Mike Johnson havethe power to affect real change. But

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when asked to do something, doanything, well, this is what you
get with regard to defunding Jack Smith. Look, I think that there's been
a terrible dereliction of duty with regardto the Special Counsel, and how how
the whole system has been abused,how they've engaged in law fair against President
Trump. I mean, all ofthese things are to me self evident truths.

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But that's not something you wave awand and just eliminate the Special Council
as a provision. It's been partof the law, you know, the
tradition and the law here SAYSTNET fortwenty five years. So are you prepared
then to stick this into appropriations billsto defund the special Counsel? No,
I don't think. Look, ifI could make nursery rhyme conservatism, if

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I can make the definition an audiocut, that would be exactly it,
pointing out all the evil, allthe wrong and then being asked if you're
prepared to do something about it andsaying no, I can't believe they're doing
this. These abuses are unbelievable.It's gross what they're doing. Wow,

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these guys are way out of line. This is against the law. I
can't believe they're doing well. Okay, Well, are you gonna stop them?
Oh? My gosh, No,are you kidding me? No,
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonnado anything you would you want to be
to You wanted me to do something, well, that wouldn't be Christian.
I No, I'm not gonna.I'm not gonna push back and fight against
the evils taking place in the country. I've got a cheek to turn over

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here. I'm busy turning cheeks.I can't I can't do anything. Hey,
Mike, are you gonna Are yougonna stop the children from being routinely
abused and mutilated in the country.I just want to be clear that I
think the mutilation of children is deadwrong, and I think it's terrible what
these people are doing. And no, I'm not gonna do anything about it.

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Hey, Mike, the uh thesouthern borders open. I saw a
story out of Georgia, as youknow this and was out of Florida where
an eleven year old girl was grabbedby an illegal and tossed it to the
back of a van and raped.Hey, Mike, what do you think
about that? Are you gonna yougonna, I don't know, refuse to

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pass any more bills until we getborder security. Well, I just want
to tell you that I think whateverhappened to that girl was terrible, and
I'm just a gassed that what theseillegal are, what these illegals are doing
in the country. And I'm tellingyou what, Joe Biden is dead wrong
for what he's done at the borderand things like that. Yeah, but
Mike, are you gonna do anythingabout it? Oh? My gosh,
No, what do something? No, jeez, that would be wrong.

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No. No, I'm a conservativeafter all. No, No, I'll
point out problems, I'll point outthe hypocrisy. I'll do all those things.
But you see, I don't everwant to get my hands dirty.
I just want to go be amonk who lives in the hills in the
mountains and then pretend that I'm holierthan everyone else. You're not holier than
that anyone else. You're not betterthan anyone else. You're a gutless coward.

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Nursery rhyme conservatism is the ultimate cloakfor the lazy and the cowards.
That's what it is. I don'twant to get off my butt. I
certainly don't want to make any enemies. I don't want to be mean to
anybody. I'm not gonna actually doanything. I will sit in the sidelines,
on the sidelines, and I willpoint out all the things the players
on the field who are doing wrongor evil. But if you actually ask

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me to strap some pads on andget in the game, well no,
no, don't. I don't wantto get sweaty. That's nursery rhyme conservatism,
and I despise it. I despiseit. Go get your hands dirty,
go get involved. This has beena podcast from wor