Medal Of Honor Monday featuring Vietnam Vet Sgt. Joe Ronny Hooper

Episode Transcript

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This is a podcast from WOOR.It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another
hour of The Jesse Kelly Show ona Monday, a Medal of Honor Monday,
and we are about to do adoozy of a medal of honor on
this one. Remember you can.By the way, we have other stuff
this hour. We're going to talkabout well more about systems, illegals.

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We have a whole bunch of emailswe need to get to on all kinds
of different issues. We have alot of fun. We're going to have
this hour for sure. Before wedo that, I want to do some
Medal of Honor Monday stuff. EveryMonday at this time, we read a
medal of Honor citation, find ahero medal of Honor citation, and we
simply read it. Read about themen, read about the deeds, read

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about what they did. And rememberyou can email suggestions to us. You
should know a little heads up.There's a long line because people have been
emailing suggestions for a long time.So if you emailed one and we didn't
read it, it's not that wedo read it. We probably just didn't
read it yet. I mean wemight have thrown it in the trash,
but we probably just didn't read ityet. This one was from November of

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twenty three, Guy emails in DeerMeat, Showgun and Whisper of Menus.
You may have already done this Guycitation already. I don't remember. I've
never heard anything like this, butI thought it was worth submitting for Medal
of Honor Monday. And it's theMedal of Honor citation and I will get
to it in a few minutes fora Joe Ronnie Hooper in Vietnam. I

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believe we have done this some before, but it was a while ago.
We have no problem repeating them.Why wouldn't we repeat them? They're amazing
stories. I'm going to give alittle bit of background on some of the
things that were going on during thiswhole thing. Though. Okay, this
took place near way Way. You'veprobably it's spelled Hue. You've probably heard

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the name way Way City, tedOffensive, you've heard the Vietnam War,
and you've heard about these these things, the ideas. But I need to
explain exactly what was going on andwhy it was going on at the time
before I get to the Metal ofhonorsization. Just I thought a little bit
of background, a little historical perspectiveon it would be helpful, all right,
So let's go to the most basiclevel. Vietnam War kicks off.

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We, of course, the Johnsonadministration. When I say we, the
LBJ administration lied through their teeth tokind of kick this whole thing off,
the old Gulf of Tongue and stuff. We won't go into it, but
either way, we were involved indefending South Vietnam and trying to stop the
South Vietnamese from being taken over bythe communist North Vietnamese. South Vietnam,

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though, was a disaster. Theirgovernment was horrific. It was totally corrupt
and off when the people hated it. And this will come into play here.
There were all kinds of dirty commyscum in South Vietnam, and those
eventually became the Viet Kong. Rememberthe NVA in Viet Kong are two different

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things, kids. The NVA wasthe official army of the North Vietnamese,
the North Vietnamese Army. We're talkinguniforms, guns, the works. The
Viet Cong were different. They werethe gorilla force. They were the farmers
and teachers and workers in South Vietnamwho would work their jobs by day,

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and then at night they'd throw onthe black pajamas and go find a spider
hole somewhere and shoot a marine onthe way by. If you can,
booby traps, torture mines, theworks, lots of that stuff. Most
of that stuff you see was thework of the Viet Kong, a very
prominent, powerful gorilla force in Vietnam, in South Vietnam. Now, this

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medal of lot of citation took placein nineteen sixty eight, and it really
took place during the Tet Offensive.What was the Tet Offensive. This is
going to be very very brief.We'll get back to politics Tet. I'm
not an expert on it. Justknow that it's a holy day there.
It's an important holy day in Vietnam. And because it's an important holy day

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in Vietnam, we thought things wouldbe pretty quiet during Tet and all the
Vietnamese people moving back and forth leadingup to Tet. It didn't set off
any alarm bells for us because youalways had people moving back and forth going
into Tet. Now, pause onNET and let's talk about the Phoenix program.

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One of the coolest freaking things ever. It was an assassination program by
the CIA. And here's what itwas. The Phoenix Program was South Vietnam,
Okay viet Cong. Its job,the idea behind the Phoenix Program was
locate and identify the leaders of thisVietcong movement, the South Vietnamese movement,

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and kill them. That's really whatit was. Straight out of the movies.
It's really what it was. Findwho they are, murder them.
That's our job. Our job isto assassinate the opposition in South Vietnam.
And it was successful up to apoint. We'll get to that in a
moment. They were finding these guysin droves and they were killing them.

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There were many, many, many, many many guys though. Many of
these South Vietnamese leaders, these vietCong leaders, they had not been able
to kill yet, they'd not beenable to locate yet. There were all
kinds of these guys, and theywere having nightmarish problems in South Vietnam with
this gorilla viet Cong force. Theywere blowing everything up. They were just

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they were creating nightmare for us.And that leads us to the Medal of
Honor citation. But I will say, to wrap up the little Phoenix program
thing, what really helped the PhoenixProgram was the Ted Offensive, you see,
the Tet Offensive it was. Itwas the kami all in strategy to

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finally get rid of us in SouthVietnam. It was coordinated the NVA with
the viet Cong. They had plannedit meticulously, and the idea was essentially
this during the Tet Holiday, whenthey think we'll be sitting around, instead
of sitting around, we will marshalall of our forces and we will rise

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up if we will kill all theseAmericans and South Vietnamese people who are against
us, and will finally purge thesepeople and take back our country. But
what it ended up doing was allthe dirty commies the CIA hadn't found during
the Phoenix Program. They came outduring the Tet Offensive trying to fight it,
and they ended up dying. Sothe Tet Offensive ended up eliminating most

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of the people in the South VietnameseViat Kong movement ended up being a huge
win in the short term and thelong run not so much. In the
long run, it really soured theAmerican public on everything, and things even
got uglier from there. But whatever, Without further ado, let's read the
citation for a one Joe Ronnie Hooper, a full grown man. My word,

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hey, honoring those who went aboveand beyond its Medal of Honor Monday
for conspicuous gallantry in intrepidity and actionat the risk of his life, above
and beyond the call of duty.Staff Sergeant then Sergeant Hooper, US Army

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distinguished himself while serving as squad leaderwith Company D. Company D was assaulting
a heavily defended enemy position along ariverbank when it encountered a withering hail of
fire from rockets, machine guns,and automatic weapons. Staff Sergeant Hooper rallied
several men and stormed across the river. It was five men by the way,
overrunning several bunkers on the opposite shore. Thus inspired the rest of the

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company moved to the attack. Withutter disregard for his own safety, he
moved out under the intense fire againand pulled back the wounded, moving them
to safety. During the sack,staff Sergeant Hooper was seriously wounded, but
he refused medical aid and returned tohis men. With the relentless enemy fire
disrupting the attack, he single handedlystormed three enemy bunkers, destroying them with

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hand grenades and rifle fire, andshot two enemy soldiers who had attacked and
wounded the chaplain. Leading his menforward in a sweep of the area,
Staff Sergeant Hooper destroyed three buildings housingenemy riflemen. At this point he was
attacked by a North Vietnamese officer,whom he fatally wounded with his bayonet to
make a more to make a strongerpoint. The officer saw Hooper with the

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bayonet, turned and ran away.Hooper ran him down and bayoneted him to
death. Freakin' awesome anyway. Findinghis men under enemy under heavy fire from
house from a house on the front, he proceeded alone to the building,
killing its documents with rifle fire andgrenades. By now his his initial body
wound had been compounded by grenade fragments. Yet despite the multiple wounds and loss

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of blood, he continued to leadhis men against the intense enemy fire.
As his squad reached the final lineof enemy resistance, it received devastating fire
from four bunkers in line on itsleft flank. Staff Sergeant Hooper gathered several
hand grenades and raced down a smalltrench which ran the length of the bunker
line, tossing grenades into each bunkeras he passed by, killing all but

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two of the occupants. With thesepositions destroyed, he concentrated on the last
bunkers facing his men, destroying thefirst with an incendiary grenade and neutralizing two
more by rifle fire. He thenraced across an open field, still under
enemy fire, to rescue a woundedman who was trapped in a trench.
By the way, Hooper was outof AMMO and basically had no weapon when

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he ran across that trench to goget that guy. Upon reaching the man,
he was faced by an arm enemysoldier, whom he killed with a
pistol. Someone had to toss hima pistol. Moving his comrade to safety
and returning to his men, heneutralized the final pocket of enemy resistance by
fatally wounding three North Vietnamese officers withrifle fire. Staff Sergeant Hooper then established

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a final line and reorganized his men, not accepting treatment until this was accomplished
and not consenting to evacuation until thefollowing morning. His supreme valor, inspiring
leadership, and heroic self sacrifice weredirectly responsible for the company's success and provided
a lasting example and personal courage forevery man on the field staff. Sergeant

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Hooper's actions were in keeping with thehighest traditions of military service and reflect great
credit upon himself in the US Army. And you should know that he also
has two Silver Stars and six BronzeStars. And he is credited officially with
killing one hundred and fifteen Vietnamese soldiers. And while he did not lose his

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life that day, he did losehis life to the alcoholism that followed not
long after he came back. AndI feel like it's appropriate to play that
man taps man. What a stuff. Demon's got him in the end,

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be backities the Jesse Kelly Show ona Monday. Of course, I've met
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us, and you should Jesse atJesse kellyshow dot com. You're about to

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get to a bunch of those beforeI get to these genocidal climate change Nazis,
commies, Nazis, whatever, samething. Listen, country boy,
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marine, a real one. Jesse. You said we have to win a
million battles, and we won one. It's a small one, but perhaps
it will encourage others to fight backin their local districts. And he goes
on to talk about this is.This is in Shenandoah County in Virginia.
There's actually a news article out therethat, of course tried to remove all
the names of the Confederate stuff,Robert E. Lee and all this stuff.

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And they decided to dig involve,get involved locally, organize fight back,
and now those historic American names willbe restored. Guy says his name
is Dave. Listen, you havea battle you can fight. I know

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votes matter, our effort matters,our money matters. It does. It's
not that we don't have any say, but we don't have that much right

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and it feels so far away,and we're so mad at these people,
and we can't do anything about it. Nothing changes. But locally, you
have so much, say, somuch say. You're mad about it.
You want to fight the culture wars, you want to take back your country.
I guarantee you there are wins thatcan be had in your area if

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you put in the effort. Notyour neighbor, not the guy across the
street, if you dig in,if I dig in. Look, I'm
getting involved this Thursday too. Assoon as I get off work, I
told you, I want to gohome. I don't want to talk anymore
when I'm done. I want togo home, hang out with my family
and relax and do my own thingand watch documentaries. I have a big

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wanted me to get involved with it. I'm doing it on Thursday, and
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can do. I'm getting involved ina school board race, in fact,
three of them right now, andin real ways. I'll put it to
you that way. In real ways, and getting involved in a school board

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race, I don't want to dothat. I have other things I want
to do, but these are winsthat I can have. Saving the country
is a process, not an event. In fact, tomorrow when West Virginia,
Maryland, Nebraska, you have primariestomorrow, there are primaries. How

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many people are listening to the soundof my voice right now in West Virginia,
Maryland and Nebraska. It's a lot. Are you going to sit around
and complain? Maybe you'll put Drainthe Swamp on social media and then sit
home tomorrow, or are you gonnago up and vote out your dirtball GOP

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incumbent. Shoot Nebraska. They havethat loser, Don Bacon in there in
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I'm promoting him and flat out DanFry is his name. His name spelledbird.
It's like fr I E or eiwhatever, it doesn't matter. But
he's a good man running against DonBacon in Nebraska. Are Nebraska's gonna get

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up and vote for real change?Are they gonna sit at home complain about
the GOP and then go vote forthe same loser they've been voting for.
Or I don't even know what's worse. Don't vote at all, Just sit
at home, don't get involved,don't go do anything, but then tell
your friends on the weekend. Nah, Trump will fix it. You fix

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We'll be back. It is theJesse Kelly Show on a Monday.
Doing some emails before I get tothese genocidal climate change nutballs here and kind
of how how that climate change crapis all the It's the final form,
the final boss of communism, ifyou will. But I want to get
to some emails because I've been solaxing, so late, just way behind,

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how don't know. I get distractedby other stuff, and then I'll
read one email and I'll forget thatI'm doing emails and I'll start talking about
other than whatever. Dear men,you whisper, what was your favorite meal
in the mre or in the Marines? Can be an MRI or dining facility
reading About Face and Steal My Soldier'sHeart by Colonel David Hackworth. I think

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the rot in our society in militarystarted a long time ago. What say
you, actually, I have toread that book about Face. Everyone keeps
telling me that's an amazing book.I'm going to read it. I already
own it. It's just on mylist, okay, my favorite meal in
the marine. So I've told youbefore about how brutal a forced march is.

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It's not that we called it humps. They're humps. We're going on
a hump. We have ten milehump, twenty mile hump. But a
forced march everyone gets information. Youthrow a bunch of weight on your body
and you walk. You go hike, but you hike at an accelerated pace,
and it doesn't if you're on theoutside looking in, if you've never

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done it, you really can't fullyunderstand how grueling it is and how badly
you suffer on a forced march.It's why so many of the elite units
out there, the most elite unitsin the world, they will have brutally
long forced marches as part of theirqualification, part of their tests to see

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if you have what it takes toget in, go look at SAS British
SAS Special Air Service. Some ofthe big baddest dudes on the planet.
Part of their thing, some longbrutal force march guys die on it.
Here's a bunch of weight, gowalk, there's some hills. It just

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your feet. We used to,I'm going somewhere with this. We used
to. You would get blisters rightaway. Wouldn't matter how bad how well
you took care of your feet.The blisters would come. Your foot gets
sweaty, and you'd want to tryto care for it. You try to
change your socks. But really everyoneknew when I was in everyone just knew.
I mean, yeah, it hurtsyour best just walking it off till

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the blister completely comes off and yoursock and your foot goes numb. The
numbness is what you want, Sojust got out the pain until your feet
goes on. That's what a humpis, the brutal and they're supposed to
be I'm not complaining. They're supposedto be and make a man out of
you. And by the time youwere done with a hump, your cameis
you'd be wearing your camouflage uniform,your cammis if you were wearing greens,

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or no matter what you were wearing, really, but if you were wearing
greens, you could really see it. Once you got back up to your
barracksum and you were taking them off. They were so salty. You could
flake the salt off of them becauseyour sweated come through and you'd lost so
much that even all the salts inyour body came out. You could stand
your CAMEI like your top. Youcould stand it up against the side of

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the wall. That's how stiff theywere. So we're talking about something that's
brutal and draining on the human body. So for me, I would always
some guys did it differently. Imade it a priority. I was always
worried that I was gonna fall outor look like a Woolf's and I never
wanted to look like a woolfs.So I made calories a huge priority for

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me. Just shovel food into yourbody. And so I would get up
a little extra early if I hadtime, and I would go down to
the chowhol To this day, it'smy favorite marine meal. And I will
make some version of this. Iknow. I just hit the microphone with
my pen Chris, it was anaccident, and I will make some version
of this to this day if Iever get the opportunity, and whenever I
do it, my wife is mortified. So I would get scrambled eggs.

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Remember calories are the key. Iget scrambled eggs, and I would have
them put ham and sausage, whatevermeat they had. I had them load
every single kind in the scrambled eggs. I'd have them load all the cheese
they could possibly load into the scrambledeggs. I would toast four pieces of
toast, and then once the scrambledeggs is big, heaping, cheesy,

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meaty pile of scrambled eggs was onthe tray and I'd have the toast ready.
They always had because you could buyyou could get biscuits and gravy.
They always had a big vat ofsausage gravy there and I had them go
just dump gobs of sausage gravy ontop of it, and it would look
like death. It was the mostfantastic thing in the world, and I

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believe to this day, I believeit is the reason I finished all the
humps and I didn't fall out ofthem. I would just load my body
down with so many calories. See, Chris said, how did you not
vomit? Well, let me explainhow it works in the Marines. And
this is for you young bucks,you young aspiring Marines. I can't tell
you how it works in the Armyor the Navy or the Air Force because
I'm straight, But I can tellyou how it works in the Marines.

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You always have to show up fifteenminutes early for something. On time is
late. Remember on time is late. So let's say you have a battalion
hump that morning, so your wholebattalion is going on a hump that morning.
What's underneath a battalion? A company? What's underneath the company? A
platoon? What's underneath the platoon?A squad or a section? I was

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in a water section a squad.Okay, so here's how it would work.
Let's say the battalion hump was kickingoff at seven o'clock. That's when
we're leaving. Your company commander wouldtell you everyone has to be down here
at what time? Six forty five. We can't be late. Well,
your platoon commander, he doesn't wantto be late for his six forty five

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appointment. To go on a hump. He gotta be there fifteen minutes.
Eurly, Hey, weapons platoon,we're gonna be down here at six point
thirty. Then you're a squad leader. My mortar section leader would come again.
On time is late. We can'tshow up at six point thirty.
We'll be there at six fifteen.But wait, there's more. You also

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have a fire team leader. Ourswas would be a gun the mortar.
Whatever he comes, he doesn't wantto be on time. On time is
late. We gotta be down hereat six fifteen, so we'll be down
there at six o'clock. So theanswer to your question, Chris, about
why didn't I throw up after eatingthat much food? Even after eating that
much food, you had an hourand a half two hours before you were

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walking anywhere, Buddy, you hadall the time in the world if you
wanted to just sit there and digestall that stuff. Jesse, it's the
Democrat effort to keep speaker Johnson analogousto President Biden keeping Christopher Ray. I
listened on WRKO and Boston. Youkeep me thinking and laughing through the night
as I'm trucking all night long.I love that, and I love WRKO

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and Boston. What a sixth stationthat is, Chris, We need to
go to Boston. Boston's a cooltown. I know it's run by a
bunch of dirtball comedies, but WRKOwould welcome us. We'd go have dinner
with Howie car and Grace Curley.They probably don't even want to hang out
with me, but I just invitethem anyway, and we'd have a good
time. What, Chris, whatbut food is in Boston. Oh?

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I was about to say seafood.Yeah, that's gonna be a problem for
you, Chris. I was gonnasay clams and shrimp and lobster. But
that's not gonna work for you,buddy. Maybe you maybe there's a robust
kosher section of town. Maybe Idon't look. I can't be held hostage
to what you're eating. I promiseyou one thing. I'm eating seafood when

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I get there. The rest ofit's your problem, pal. Anyway,
Biden keeps Christopher Ray. Well,yeah, why wouldn't he? But remember,
Christopher Ray was never some Republican activist. Christopher Ray should have never been
anywhere near the head of the FBI. When Trump did the right thing and

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fired James comy, and it wasthe right thing to do. That was
a critical moment in Trump's president andpresidency. In fact, it was a
critical moment for the United States ofAmerica. That was the moment where we
needed a reformer. That was themoment Trump had just seen what had happened,
what the FBI had done to him. We were all starting to find

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out just how evil this organization is. That was the moment we had to
have some outsider who could come inand view his job as cleaning up the
FBI. Instead, we picked someguy there's a quote out there, Christopher
Ray saying it he viewed his jobas protecting the FBI. We picked the

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swampiest swamp creature possible, and whywould he ever change? All right,
let's talk about these genocidal climate changenutballs. Hang on, it is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday.We'll get back to the emails here in
a few I promised you I would, and I we all want to talk

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about a couple of things here reallyquickly. Remember you can send those emails
into Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com. So communism at its most basic level
is anti humanism. That's why Icall them anti humans. I'm not the
first one to come up with that. Many many many people have called them

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something similar sults, and it's inmore specifically called them the enemies of humanity.
But at their core they're anti people. The entire belief system is anti
human humans are always the problem.If we could just get rid of X,

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this would work itself out. It'swhy, in so many ways,
the murmurred climate change branch of communismis really the final form because they stop
pretending otherwise. All the other ones. They kind of act as if they're
just being more nice or tolerant orequal. But it's the climate change brand

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of communism where the veil fell,the mask is off. If you will,
they just come right out and sayit. So much of the time,
communism's final form really truly is climchange activism. Climate change activism is
communism's final form. There's a newmovie coming out, Kingdom of the Planet

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of the Apes, and they wereof course interviewing these two actors, Freya
Allen and Owen Tigue, and no, I don't believe either of these people
are intelligent enough to have ever readanything, so I'm not saying these are
communist leaders. They're just useful idiots, apparatics. But it it shows the
mentality, doesn't it. Listen tothis, I'm fully teammate. Listen obviously

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when I'm playing May, I'm teamHuman, but I'm teammatee Pray's teammatee Oh
why so? I mean, lookat the planet. Oh, here we
go. Look at what the humanshave done to the earth. Well,
yeah, I dislike humans a lot. You know, you know, there's
the odd one that's like no,I mean, there are you know,

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there are times where you see humanscome together and you go, oh,
isn't this love? And then tho'stimes, so you go, I absolutely
hate us anti humans. I lovehumanity. I do what I do because
I love humanity. People are wonderful. They're not an accident. None of
us are. Every single one ofus was created by God on purpose.

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I am as pro human as itgets. And that's why I hate communists
so much. They can't help it. At their core, they're anti humans.
Here's a headline from the Blaze.Scientists who contributed to You and Climate
Report tuts global virus as final solutionfor curbing emissions. His name is Bill

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Maguire, he's a professor at theUniversity College London, and he has some
wonderful quotes, and they're like thisquote. If I am brutally honest,
the only realistic way I see emissionsfalling as fast as they need to to
avoid catastrophic climate breakdown is the callis the calling of the human population by

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a pandemic with a very high fatalityrate. I don't I'm not mad at
Bill McGuire. Bill McGuire has echoedwords we've played for you many, many,
many times on the show. JaneGoodall, who's the one guy I
forget his dag gone name who wenton and just talked about how we need

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to reduce our population by billions andbillions. Oh you have it, Chris,
go ahead. Please. We cannothide away from human population growth because
you know it underlies so many ofthe other problems. All these things we
talk about wouldn't be a problem ifthere were if there was a size of
population that there was five hundred yearsago. Yeah, the size of the

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population five hundred years years ago wasninety percent less than it is now.
Jane Goodall wants six billion people todie, and she thinks that's the solution.
She's an anti human. This isDennis Meadows. Listen to this lovely
soul opine about wiping out God's creationin one way or another. We are
global. We are so far abovethe population and the consumption levels which can

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be supported by this planet that Iknow, in one way or another,
it's going to come back down.So I don't hope to avoid that.
I hope that it can occur ina civil way, and I mean civil
in a especially way. Peace we'regoing to have. Peace doesn't mean that

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everybody's happy, but it means thatconflict isn't solved through violence, through force,
but rather in other ways. Andso that's what I hope for the
planet can support something like a billionpeople, maybe two billion, depending on

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how much liberty and how much materialconsumption you want to have. If you
want more liberty and more consumption,you have to have fewer people, and
conversely, you can have more people. I mean, we could even have
eight or nine billion, probably ifwe have a very strong dictatorship, which
is smart's Unfortunately, you never havesmart dictatorships. They're always stupid. But

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if you had a smart dictatorship anda low standard of living, you can
have it, but we want tohave freedom and we want to have a
high sentence. So we're going tohave a billion people and we're now at
seven so we have to get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
got it. I in a way, I do see all the damage this
movement has done already. Remember,the damage isn't coming. They're doing it

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everywhere. The money, the damage, you see it everywhere. The brownouts,
blackouts in California, you see iteverywhere. It's coming. We were
already experiencing it. But they're ina small way, I'm actually grateful for
the climate change brand of communism becausethey can't help themselves. But be honest,

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every now and then, all theother branches still act as if they're
they're doing the right thing and it'sabout saving people in equality, and they'll
even use words that they know youlove, words like freedom and things like
that. But not the climate changepeople on a ground level, at the
ground, at the base level,they come out and admit it, hey

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man, we just kind of wejust kind of need a bunch of people
to die. If a bunch ifbillions of people would just go ahead and
die, then everything would work outwell in the end. It's all these
people think this has been a podcastfrom wor