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May 10, 2024 32 mins

 Vance Ginn, former Chief Economist for the OMB, currently founder and president of Ginn Economic Consulting and host of the Let People Prosper Podcast and EJ Antoni, a Public Finance Economist at the Heritage Foundation, discuss Biden’s dismal economy. Just yesterday while speaking in Wisconsin, Biden did everything he could to convince the audience that things are actually going really well. 

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Speaker 4 (01:23):
All right, news round up an information overload. Our toll free.
Our number is eight hundred and nine four one, Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
uh I go back to this issue is Joe Biden.
You know, it's really frustrating to me. It's just outright lying.
It's sort of like him saying the border is secure,
the border is closed. No, it's Trump fault three years later. No,

(01:44):
it's Biden. They were bragging about everything they've done, and
it's a disaster, just like you know, defund, dismantle, no
bail laws are a disaster, just like the economy has
been a disaster, just like foreign policy is a disaster. Anyway,
you know, he's so clueless and out of touch. You know,
after being told that grocery prices are up thirty percent,

(02:08):
a very rare sit down interview became a disaster for
him on fake news CNN. And by the way, even
Aaron Burnett didn't actually have the nicest things to say
about Joe Biden, which I thought was pretty interesting. But anyway,
this is Joey, your president, trying to put a positive
spin on the economy, and it just shows how clueless

(02:31):
and out of touch he is. And remember inflation in
the last two months, CPI numbers went up three point
two percent year over year and three point five percent
up year over year. Okay, what does that mean? Inflation
is not going down. That's three and a half percent
up from last year year over year. And you know

(02:51):
he inherited inflation rated of one point four percent. But anyway,
he's not living in the real world. Listen, you're aware.

Speaker 10 (02:59):
Of many of these. Course, the cost of buying a
home in the United States is double what it was
when you look at your monthly cost from before the pandemic.
Real income when you account for inflation, is actually down
since you took office, economic growth last week far short
of expectations. Consumer confidence maybe no surprise, is near a
two year low with less than six months to go

(03:22):
to election day. Are you worried that you're running out
of time to turn that around.

Speaker 11 (03:27):
We've already turned it around. We have the strongest economy
in the world. That we say it again, in the world.

Speaker 10 (03:33):
Although GDP last week was far short of expectations.

Speaker 9 (03:36):
Oh it wasn't.

Speaker 11 (03:36):
Look GPS still grow. Look at the response on the markets.

Speaker 10 (03:40):
But there's real pain. I mean, grocery prices are up
thirty percent, more than thirty percent since the beginning of
the pandemic, and people are spending war on food and
groceries than they have at any time really in the
past thirty years. I mean, that's a real day to
day pain that people.

Speaker 9 (03:55):
No, no, it really is, and it's real.

Speaker 11 (04:00):
But the fact is that if you take a look
at with them, then people have.

Speaker 9 (04:04):
They have the money to spend.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Then I played this earlier, but it's worth playing it again.
David Axerod keeps saying, oh, the economy improved.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
He doesn't even believe that. But he's saying that.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
He's out of touch with the American people, and this
pride of his may cost Biden the election.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
That part interests me.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
Listen, that's not the way people are experiencing the economy.
They're experiencing it through the lens of the cost of living.
And he is a man who's built his career on empathy.
Where is why not lead with the empathy? And I
think he's making a terrible mistake. You know, it may
not be if he doesn't win this race. It may

(04:44):
not be Donald Trump that beats him. It may be
his own pride.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
And John King pointing out that Biden better be careful
with all this positive economic talk. They have tried this
Biden Bidenomics game forever. Let me, let's push Bidenomics, let's
push We're not going to talk about Bidenomics anymore. No,
let's go back to Bidenomics anyway. Here's even John King
trying to warn him.

Speaker 12 (05:05):
I can tell you from my travels eight months now
nine states. Now he has to be careful with that,
and this says he's right when he cites the statistics.
He is right when he says to the Michigan Consumer
Confidence Survey, sixty five percent say they're doing better off.
Guess what the thirty five percent who don't. A lot
of those are his voters. They should be his voters.
When you travel the cost of living we're in Michigan,
we met with those younger voters. We also are starting

(05:26):
to put together a group of autoworkers. Their union has
endorsed Biden. Most of them are going to vote for Biden,
but you ask them what life is like and they
can't buy a bigger house because of mortgage rates. They
still when you talk about grocery prices, and so the
president has to be careful here. That sounds like somebody
in Washington telling people you're wrong and whatever your party is,
voter snope process it that way.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
They don't like that, all right.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Joining us now in the real estate of the economy,
Van's GIN is where those former chief economists or the
Office of Management and Budget. Currently founder and president of
GIN Economic Consulting, host of Let the People Prosper podcast,
our friend EJ and Tony public finance economists at the
Heritage Foundation, welcome both of you. You know, you would

(06:10):
think EJ, with all the bad news and inflationary pressures
coming back in dramatic ways, and all those expected rate
reductions that are not going to happen or materialize, and
the soft landing that's not materializing, you would think that
Joe would have gotten the message by now. But apparently,
I guess the people around them are two gutless to

(06:31):
tell them the truth about the economy well sewn.

Speaker 13 (06:35):
Either that or they've told him time and time again
and the old man just can't remember. I mean, honestly,
at this point, I don't know what is worth what
is worse. Is the president just senile and doesn't remember
the facts, or is he just a complete and total liar.
I mean, you outlined it very well already, Sean, where
inflation actually was one point four percent. It didn't get

(06:55):
up to nine percent until a year and a half
into his presidency. And by the way President Trump handed
Biden in economy growing at a one point five trillion
dollar annualized rate. By the time Biden managed to achieve
that nine percent annual inflation rate. He had turned that
into two consecutive negative quarters of economic growth, in other words,

(07:17):
of recession.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, hey, Vance, let me ask you, what's your take
on all this happy talk? And do you agree with
even Axelrod and John King that you know he better
be careful. This is the American people living in a very
different reality. Sixty percent of Americans living paycheck to paycheck,
and then we learned about a week and a half
ago that about twenty six percent of Americans in the

(07:41):
last year have struggled to even put food on their table,
the worst of any of the G seven nations. I mean,
that ought to shock the spine and soul of anybody
that cares well.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
It should. It's a pleasure to be with you, Sean,
and I think ye all are exactly right with your
talking about here. Is that the president is just on
a different planet. He doesn't see exactly what's going on
in the economy. I know they've got to talk up
the economy as much as possible given Bidenomics and everything else,
but the fact is that this is a dismal economy.
Whatever you have, real meaning inflation adjusted pursing power or

(08:17):
average weekly earnings are down about four percent since Biden
took office. People can't keep up with everything that's going
on around them, and it's just one thing after another.
They don't have enough in savings to pay for a
rainy day or get their tires fixed. And so while
they like to tout the jobs numbers that keep coming out,
and of course they keep being revised down lower, and
then they'll say, you know, the unemployer rates three point

(08:40):
nine percent. It's been below four percent for so many months.
But yeah, if you include the labor force participation rate
that is lower, even compared to February of twenty twenty,
the unemployerate would be higher than five percent, closer to
six percent. So this is not a good economy. High inflation,
a stagnating economic growth. So at the period of stagflation
that is going to continue because of the big government

(09:02):
spending policies out of DC and it's on a reserve printing
for money than what they know what to do with.
So this is a bad situation for Americans.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I'm glad you said stagflation because I think I'm the
only one that's been saying we're in a period of stagflation.
Because we are, and I look I'm not the expert
on the economy.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Both of you are.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
This is your business, however instinctively, and I understand you
can never time the markets. If you try to, you're
being stupid. I think wealth preservation for many people is
way more important than maybe a higher rate of return
that they might get investing in the stock market or
what they might have gotten in recent years. But I

(09:44):
just in my gut, I have a feeling that we
are headed for a massive correction, and I think things
are going to get worse. The inversion scares me, EJ.
And I don't know when it's going to happen, but
I'm pretty certain it's going to happen. Do you agree
or disagree?

Speaker 13 (10:02):
Sean, I agree, and I think a lot of other
investors do too. And this is a big reason why
what you would normally see as typical flights to safety
things like gold, have been on an absolute care this year.
A lot of people have lost confidence in this economy,
in the government, in the market, et cetera. And so

(10:23):
they're not as concerned as you were saying. They're not
as concerned with a return on investment. They're more so
concerned with just trying to preserve their wealth because you
have this dual threat today of low economic growth and
also inflation. As you said, this is the stagflation recipe
that was so detrimental to investors in the nineteen seventies

(10:46):
and it's coming back to bite us today. You know,
in most of the nineteen seventies, Sean investors saw a
huge positive rate of return at least nominally, but then
once you took out inflation was it was deeply, deeply negative.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know, Vance, let me ask you this because I
reduced my exposure to the market as much as I
possibly could without penalty. As you know, you can move
money out of the stock market or funds that you
might be a part of into treasuries, which were you know,
one two year treasuries paying what a little over five

(11:22):
percent of the time. I'll take five percent in terms
of a return on my money, but knowing it's safe,
over risking what I think could likely happen, maybe sooner
than later, which is a major correction in the stock market,
and I mean a major one.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Yeah. I think you're right, Sean. And one thing you
want to look at is the pe ratio. It's price
earning ratios, which are still well above historical norms, and
so we are due for what I believe to be
a major correction. And we've been propped up here and there,
and every time that Jerome Palette the FED talks, you
see wild variation and volatility in the stock market. And
this is what happens whenever you have government is basically

(12:01):
controlling the economy through government spending, through paxes, through regulations,
and through money printing. This is a socialist economy that
creates a situation of less economic growth and higher inflation,
and people having so much uncertainty about the economy, whether
they're businesses, whether they're going to continue to advance and
be able to hire workers, or from your point, about

(12:23):
the amount of returns they're going to get on their investments.
And one thing I would say also about the economy
and the labor market is while non farm employment has
continued to increase over the last year, the household employment
is essentially flat. It's been down for the last five months.
So we're already starting to see the slowdown in economic
activity getting Americans hard across the economy.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, and it's hurting a lot of people that I know.
All right, click break right, back more with Van Skin
on the other side, as well as EJ and Tony.
We'll get to your calls coming up as well. Late
one hundred and ninety four one Sean, if you want
to join us, Hy we continue our economic gurus and
is with us all as well as hej Antoni. Uh,
here's the most frightening thing. Let me play for you.

(13:06):
This guy Jared Bernstein, who's the chairman of the Council
of Economic Advisors. By the way, he doesn't have any
background educationally in the economy, all right, just just put
that out there. He's the White House Council of Economic
Advisor's chair And anyway, there was he was interviewed for
a new film called Finding the Money, and it's a

(13:27):
documentary and he said, the US government can't go bankrupt,
and because we print money. His ignorant level, his ignorance
level is so high. I'm shocked.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
EJ. Listen to this, Like.

Speaker 10 (13:39):
You said, they print the dollar, so why why does
the government even.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Borrow well.

Speaker 14 (13:47):
The so the I mean again, some of this stuff
gets some of the language that them, some of the
language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government
definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money, which
is why the government definitely prints money, and then it
lends that money by selling bonds.

Speaker 9 (14:09):
Is that what they do they.

Speaker 14 (14:13):
They Yeah, they.

Speaker 15 (14:16):
Sell bonds.

Speaker 14 (14:17):
Yeah, they sell bonds, right, since they sell bonds and
people buy the bonds and lend them the money.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
Yeah. So I don't I don't get it.

Speaker 14 (14:24):
I don't know what they're talking about, like, because it's like,
the government clearly prints money, it does it all the time,
and it clearly borrows. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this
debt and depthist conversation. So I don't think there's anything
confusing there.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
How killing is that EJ.

Speaker 16 (14:43):
Sean?

Speaker 13 (14:43):
That explains very very well why we are in the
economic shape we are today, because those are the kinds
of people at the helm in the White House somebody,
as you said, who has no economics background. He's a
musician turned social and somehow that landed him as chair
of the Council of Economic Advisors.

Speaker 15 (15:05):
I mean, this is.

Speaker 13 (15:06):
Absolutely insane, but it helps explain how we have gotten
such disastrous policies in place to create stagnant economic growth,
runaway inflation. I mean, it is absolutely appalling that people
like this can be allowed anywhere near the levers of power.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, unbelievable. We'll give you the last word here of
Vance that we have to run.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, no, it is unbelievable. I remember being in the
in the White House and talking with cheap you know
the share at the time with Kevin Hassett. He would
never have answered it that way in the Trump administration,
and there was a totally different type of economic policy,
one of reducing taxes, reducing regulations, and allowing for people
to have more individual liberty and freedom. That's what's going
to create more opportunities to proper, not this MMT modern

(15:50):
monetary theory nonsense that Jered Bergstein may or may not
note about, but plenty of the Biden administration do. It's
exactly what happens in places.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Like dinnis definitely prince money, right right, is that right?
Definitely prints money and definitely lends money, right right. Wow,
that's pretty frightening. Anyway, I do know I trust you
guys a hell of a lot more when I trust
this guy.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Anyway, Vance, thank you, EJ. Thank you. Appreciate both of you.
Eight hundred and nine four one. Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 4 (16:37):
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Speaker 2 (16:43):
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(18:24):
he will withhold weapons from Israel if they go into Rafa.
Going into Rafa, what why to win the war against
the radical Islamic terrorists group funded by orchestrated by the
number one state sponsor of terror, Iran. And Joe is
emboldening the radical extremists because he needs to give into

(18:45):
his radical base.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Listen to Joe.

Speaker 11 (18:47):
I made it clear that if they go into Raffa,
they haven't gone on Rafa yet. If they go into Raffa,
I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
To deal with Raffa, to deal with the city, to
deal with that problem.

Speaker 11 (19:01):
I've made it clear to b Be in the Work
Cabinet they're not going to get our support if in
fact they're going these population centers. We're not walking away
from Israel's security, walking away to Israel's ability to wage
or in those services.

Speaker 10 (19:14):
So it's not over your red line yet.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
Not yet. But we've held up the weapons. We've held
up there.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
One shipment as an old shipments, the design, we've held
that up.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Now, we had a very different Joe Biden from twenty nineteen.
This is Joe Biden saying we'd never abandoned Israel. Oh,
very consistent in terms of his logic and thinking. You see,
in twenty nineteen he didn't have this radical pro Hamas
wing of his party that now dominates the radical leftist

(19:51):
Marxists that are the Democratic Party of today.

Speaker 17 (19:54):
Listen with the idea that we would cut off a
military aide through an ally, our only true, true ally
in the entire region, is absolutely preposterous.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Just beyond my comprehension.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Anyone would do that unbelievable. Abandoning Israel, emboldening our enemies,
surrendering in the war on terror. That's what your president
is doing. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program, the Free State
of Florida, Matt, how are you, my fellow Floridian sir?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Glad you called?

Speaker 16 (20:30):
Well, I'm doing a lot better than I could be,
I guess, but I crossibly be doing more.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
So.

Speaker 16 (20:34):
The fact of the matter is is that you have
to win a war. You have to win it quickly.
Like President Trump said, The fact of the matter is
is they could have already finished this. What it is.
They pushed them all the way back. They pushed them
off all the way back to Rawhun and stopped to
try to stop on the collateral damage. But this says
not how you win a war. They need to just
go ahead and move forward. Now. Joe said that he's

(20:55):
not going to send him any more bombs. Okay, so
they need to come out like this. They need to
do like you had, get the bombs with someone else,
or just say okay, well, We're not going to bomb, bomb,
gather it, but we will be moving our infantry and
do a ground war and take God and take it.
Take Rafa out street by street, block by block, terrorists
by terrorists, and just don't stop. And they need to

(21:17):
pamphlet the area, tell everybody to get out, give everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I actually disagree with that strategy.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I don't have a problem with saying to innocent people
that they should get out, but you know that Hamas
terrorists will be amongst the civilian population because that's how
they roll. However, I don't think we should ever go
back to fighting a war the way we were fighting
the war, for example in Iraq, and that was putting
US soldiers on the ground knock going door to door,

(21:45):
stepping over one ied after another, or stepping on them
and having your legs blown off if you even survived. No,
I think with military technology, precision targeting of the enemy
and weapons and their infrastructure, I think that's the way
to do it, and I would I would use that

(22:06):
sophisticated technology. But I think the biggest story here is
Joe Biden is as surrendered in the War on Terrorism,
and he surrendered and abdicated America's role as the leader
of the free world. There's no other way to put it.

Speaker 16 (22:21):
Yeah, Well, the thing of it is the same way
with the Pope. The pope saying, oh, I wish they
would show restraint against the people of Rough. I wish
they would show restrained against the people of God. And
what happened is is nobody saying, wait a minute, just
release the hostages and this is over. If I was
the Pope, I would be saying to I would be
saying to Humas, release the hostages. I wouldn't be saying
to Israel, take it easy on them. And it's the

(22:42):
same thing with Joe Biden. He should not be saying
take it easy on him. He should just be saying,
release the hostages or you're going to have to pay.
But that's what no one's saying. I just really wish
another thing that I could just say. I just wish
they would start referring to themselves as the Hebrew people.
People have forgotten God is with them, they are the
Hebrew people. For using that term kill the Jews, are

(23:02):
we're going against the Jewish people? They're the Hebrew people.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well, all I know is that they're the only democracy
in the region. They are our biggest ally and have
been and remain in my heart and mind, our biggest ally.
They're fighting for the very survival the worst terrorist attack
in their history, and the president of our country has
now abandoned them and said basically, oh no, you can
only play defense.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
You can't fight back. That's what he has said.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
And the repercussions of this position is incalculable. The damage
done is incalculable in terms of how the world will
view us going forward, and how our enemies will view
us going forward. Our friends and our allies anyway, appreciate
you call my friend Colorado Barry next Rocky Mountain High Sir,

(23:53):
how are you glad you called hey?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thanks Sean. This is the first time I've ever called Hey.
Talk about these polls. So the election I hear. We
hear every day about all, you know, these polling results
and the demographics and everything else. But there's a demographic
out there that I think a lot of people aren't
even thinking about much. That's talking about. And this is
coming from the lens of a veteran. And we see life,

(24:18):
we see our country sometimes through a little bit different lens.
We have a lot of very critical, uh positions in
the United States. You know, filled by people like nurses, Uh,
police officers, detectives, fire fighters, paramedics, doctors, you know, oil

(24:39):
oil rigg giggers and biologists and uh. We have all
these sectors that are critical to the prosperity, prosperity of
the United States, the community and national security and everything.
No one's talking about all these people and their friends
and combined family members. Uh, like the auto workers, they're
not gonna they're not gonna believe Joe's lies anymore. So

(25:01):
they know their careers in the future. If he gets
re elected, they may be out of a job. With
dei AI, the Green Initiative and all of that. Tell
me any of those people that are going to actually
vote for Biden. Okay, so now you've got national security.
I can't imagine one board patrol agent and his or
her friends or family they're going to vote for Biden

(25:25):
after you know what they've seen. We're gonna remember this
is this is the first time in a long time
we've had two report cards side by side. So whether
you're a Democrat or Republican, you just have to go
by the scores what their life was like before and
what it's like now in the country and the bord
and everything else. You got veterans that have been sold

(25:46):
down the river. You have almost veterans, and you have
regular veterans and they've been you know, just disrespected by
our government and the Biden administration. And now you've got
the military and active duty servicemen and women, all of
the branches. These young people in the country now are
looking at all this going hell, no, I'm not gonna

(26:08):
I'm not gonna enlist in the military. You have the
people in the military that want to get out because
they don't even know what they're fighting for anymore, and
they don't know what they're fighting against, and they have
a commander in chief who is horrible and embarrassing in
the eyes of the entire world. And then you have
the non commissioned officers. They run the military like a

(26:31):
well oil machine, and they're not re enlisting. They're saying
the health the military, I'm going to get out and
get on with my life. So Plump's gonna win, and
he's gonna win by a bigger margin than these polls
are showing because no one's talking about this silent majority.
I'm not gonna say. I'm not saying it's going to
be a landslide, but I am saying it's gonna be

(26:53):
enough so that Gerbel's granddaughter, Hillary Clinton, won't even be
able to deny the election results.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well, I got to tell you, so. Look, all I
could say is, yeah, the polls are encouraging. I am
giving them out and I'm studying them every single day.
There's going to be And we have an interactive map
on Hannity dot Com, and they'll tell you when and
how to register in your state. It'll tell you when
early voting begins in your state, how you vote by
mail in your state, and all leading up to election day.

(27:24):
I'm going to say it again and I won't stop
saying it, and all of you can write online Hannity
is repetitive. Yes, I want everybody to literally burn this
into their brains. Republicans Conservatives that are embrace voting early,
voting by mail, they better embrace legal ballot harvesting, matching

(27:47):
and surpassing the efforts of Democrats. The Republicans need train
poll watchers in every precinct, watching the voting all day
and the vote counting all night. Those are partisan observers.
They need to push their state legislators to have updated
voter roles, chain of custody, controls over mail in ballots,

(28:08):
voter ID signature verification. That is that. That's my message.
And you can say, Hannity, I don't trust it. Well,
it's not the system I want. It's not the system
I choose. But the only way you get to change
the system is if you win elections. Anyway, appreciate the call, Barry,
Thank you eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if
you want to be a part of the program, Chuck

(28:29):
and Georgia, Chuck, Hi, how are you glad you called?

Speaker 16 (28:32):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Sean, thanks for taking my call. Hey, just listening to
your last conversation. You know, that's exactly what I was
calling about. The Georgia election in twenty twenty was a mess.
I'm very skeptical of the results. And Brian Kemp, governor Kemp,
he signed three laws into he signed three laws, and

(28:55):
I think that I don't know if you've looked over
them or.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Not, but no, I know that they've embraced like a
number of states are now embracing voter integrity laws. And
I support the governor completely you know, I've had mixed
feelings about Governor Kem but he's done a lot of
good things for the state of Georgia, and I just
don't know him personally, which is rare. I tend to

(29:19):
know governors. I don't know him. I can't recall if
I've even had a conversation with him. Maybe he's been
on one of my shows. I don't, you know, I
can't remember every guest, but I'm glad he's done it,
and I hope that I hope that he will lend
his support. I hope he understands the danger. Even though
he may not like Donald Trump, I hope he understands

(29:40):
the absolute failure that Joe Biden has been for the
country and that Trump policies worked. He doesn't have to
like Trump, but I think this is a inflection point
for the country, and I hope he'll support him because
his word, I think, goes a long way in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
His endorsement would go a long way.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Laws are going to go a long way into fixing
some of the problems we had in Georgia, and even
I hope.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
So listen, I hope so man, I really do. I'm
not going to lie and say I'm not worried about
it because I am eight hundred ninety four one Seawan dominic,
Pennsylvania dominic.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Glad you called. How are you, sir?

Speaker 15 (30:21):
Very fine? I love talking to you, Sean. Let me
tell you. Abortion is the one issue that affects this election.
It affects it not at a presidential level, it affects
it at all levels. That includes the House of Representatives
and the Senate. The Democrat Party does not care about
facts or common sense. All they're going to say is abortion, abortion, abortion.

(30:47):
And I know your position on abortion, so I'm going
to tell you what the real position is. Everybody is
against abortion abuse. Have you ever heard that term before?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I actually have not. No.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But look, I'll tell you a few things. Number One,
I went through this on TV the other night. I'll
talk more about it. You're right, Democrats are going to
demagogue abortion, They're going to lie. I think it'll be
less effective than it was in twenty twenty two. But
Republicans need to get ahead of it. And I think
Republicans need to understand that where the country is. And

(31:19):
I say this as somebody that embraces, you know, life
as a miracle from God. However, I understand too that
the rest of the country doesn't agree with me, and
I think where the country is politically is that first
trimester or Dobs fifteen weeks. But Republicans better not allow
Democrats to position them as being against abortion if they

(31:44):
are not. It's a big issue. I agree, pay attention
to it. Eight hundred ninety four one shots on number right.
That's gonna wrap things up to today. A great Hannity
nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Please set your
DVRs so you never ever, ever miss an ever the
great one. Mark Levin tonight, Jonathan Turley tonight on this
disaster of a trial in New York, David Asman bad

(32:08):
economic news tutor Dixon, Mark Penn on the polling, Joe
Concha on the mob and the media, latest in the courtroom, stormy, stormy, stormy,
and a corrupt media.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Say DVR.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Hannity nine Eastern on Fox see you tonight, back here tomorrow.
Thank you for making this show possible.

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