April 29, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Katie brings us the best story of the past week...
- Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas asks an important question...
- Sec. of State Antony Blinken has a new offer for Hamas...
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Have an update on cricket Gate. That's the governor of
South Dakota shooting her dog up dinner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Stay tuned for that, Katie, Can you help us understand
what we are about to hear?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Only the greatest story of the weekend. This so about
a couple weeks ago, flyers started popping up around New
York City with a picture of this guy wearing an
orange mask and it said, come to Union Square Park
at three pm on April twenty seventh to watch me
eat an entire jar of cheeseballs. And at the bottom
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it had an Instagram handle cheeseball Man four to seven.
Nobody has any idea this guy's identity, and he had
an Instagram account and posted to promote the event.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And God met a different point in my life. I
am there, I am so there. I have put that
on my calendar and I make sure I am free
at that moment, and so were hundreds of other people.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Wow, he sounds like a party to me. Yeah, And
so we have audio of outland.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
He just ate the final ball, what was that least
rose balls?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And at the end, after he finished the ball, somebody
came up and put a giant orange traffic cone hat
on his head, and he had a flag of himself
holding a jar of cheeseballs, and he ran around the
crowd with the flag.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was fantastic. The world needs more of this, not less.
You know what this reminds me of. And this might
be because this was another difficult time in world history.
You know're like way back like World War One era,
Depression era, something like that, when like people climbing up
on flagpoles and sitting up there or swallowing goldfish or
(02:25):
whatever it mutting themselves into automobiles, yeah, phone booths.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I wonder if when times get really ugly, if we
don't just like look for really odd escapes like cheeseball man,
cheeseball man. I think I can can do it. I
could do it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think I could eat And I've bought those giant
jars of cheese balls before. I've got to admit I'm
not one hundred percent sure I know what a cheese
ball is. I mean, I know, like the big cheeseball
you have at a party and you slice that put
it on crack, smaller than a golf ball.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's like a cheese puff. Yeah, bigger, pretty big cheese puff.
And you can buy where do you buy the big
jar of them? I've purchased him before.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
They've got him at Costco. You can get them at Bethmo.
They're a big bar snack.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Costco is where I've probably purchased the big cheese thing.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So I think I have actually seen that delicious So
how how impressive of feet? Oh you consider ingesting an
entire jar of them on a scale is say one
to five, the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Jars of five, you would feel so awful afterwards.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The jar that he consumed was twice the size of
his head.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, that those jars. I've purchased that very jar. It's
pretty big.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I I could do it, but I would vomit, I'm
pretty sure. And it would rip all the skin off
the roof of your mouth. You can't eat a lot
of those cheese balls without just destroying your mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wow. So that was a real act of bravery. Yeah,
why the crowd in trouble time?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So I just love that he put out flyers come
see me eat an entire jar of cheese balls Saturday
at too, and people show up and cheered, let's hear
the audio again, Michael, why not.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Do we have any idea how long it took him?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then I would like how this ended. And then
everybody thinks, well, I guess we've got a bottom much
out of this as we can, and they come on,
can Katie have a microphone?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
After a half hour, cheeseball man accomplished his quest and
immediately started signing autographs.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
There you go, and now he's viral or something, so
many just signed them CBM. But that's fine. Starting update
on the governor shooting her dog if you haven't heard
that story, the governor of South Dakota, who was supposedly
on the short list for Trump's VP. Of course, nobody
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knows the inner workings of Trump's mind at any point,
but she's got a book coming out. Somebody got a
hold of an early excerpt in which she tells the
story of shooting a dog on her farm that was
eating chickens. And that is as common as common can be.
I watched so much punditary about this over the weekend,
where people acted like this was just outrageous and how
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could this ever happen? And I saw some ranchers say that,
trust me, I live on a ranch. This is not
ranch behavior. Okay, well either, don't your line, because it is.
And I know somebody who looks exactly like me who
has done the same thing. Unfortunately, it's not something you enjoy.
But and we got a couple of texts like this one.
Oregon state law clearly states if a dog is attacking
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a human or lie, it can be shot, even in Oregon,
sure for crying out loud, And I hope the laws
are the same in California because, as I've said, somebody
who looks just like me did the same thing with
a dog that was eating other animals. It's just the thing.
I mean, maybe, hey, dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Killed chickens on a couple of occasions back in the day,
and if somebody had shot them, I would have been very,
very sad, but I would not have. I mean, I
understand the law. If your dog is killing livestock, the
owner of the livestock gets to kill it, and if
it won't stop, you need to. I mean you can well,
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and especially because her dog attacked humans as well. So anyway,
so We've got an update on that. Hard to imagine
what the update is. I assume the dog is still deceased,
but I'll stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
The update was at many states around the country. Not
only is it not like horrific crime, it's perfectly legal.
It's like stated in the law. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I first became aware of this on twin when various people,
including Jonah Goldberg of The Dispatch, were acting as if
she'd shot her dog because it wouldn't sit after she
asked it the first time, when it wasn't that at all.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's just silly. I mean, it's it's ugly, but it's reality.
The reality politically is I think she's now completely off
the list of any chance of being VP because it
just shows poor judgment to put that in the book.
I think, Yeah, it reminds me of cowardly corporations that
fire people for being on the wrong side of a
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political issue, say back in the heyday of the Black
Lives Matter deal. On the other hand, it's cowardly and
gives in to evil, which strengthens evil. On the other hand,
I can see them thinking we'll have somebody work for
us who doesn't bring scrutiny down on us. Two quick
political things. A number of Republican Senators came out over
the weekend and said they would not go along with
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any effort to do away with the filibuster if Trump
becomes president. You'll remember Trump when he was president, pressured
Mitch mc connell to do with with philibuscal Philip buster.
Mitch McConnell, to his credit, in my mind, held firm
against it. A handful of Republican senators in a written
statement over the weekend said they'd be against it, and
that's all it takes to make that not happen. So
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glad to see there are some grown ups still in
charge at various levels of a few thures, you know,
grown ups.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Clarence Thomas said something in the Supreme Court the other
day that got very very little attention, but it could
be really big. We'll talk about that has to do
with the tangerine tornado.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
To the other presidential candidate, President Biden, on Saturday night,
this is the New York Times. I didn't watch Biden's stuff.
I watched Calling Joe's stuff, and I thought it was
pretty funny. But I didn't watch Biden. I just I
just don't. I just don't need any more of him
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is the White House correspondence dinner we're talking about, right,
and there's summary of the beginning of it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Was President Biden and is making a full throated pitch
for the press to see the twenty twenty four election
the way that he does and ignore the horse race.
This is the New York Times summiration of it. Summation
of it translation says The New York Times he would
like more attention paid to former President Trump and has
perceived threats in less to Biden's personal and campaign shortcomings.
(09:14):
I think the New York Times was pushing back against
that a little bit because they've had a lot of
articles about a variety of things about, you know, problems
within the White House or wanting to fire KJP or
stuff like that, and Biden made the push in front
of the free press to don't talk about that stuff,
talk about how evil he is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, okay, I'm sure you do want that, Yeah, yeah, well,
and they're fairly compliant usually, But I just think Biden's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Flaws are so obvious you can't ignore him. It be ridiculous.
Some of the stories are too juicy to pass up
if you if somebody leaks to you that you know
Kamala Harrison's secret service agent was incredibly unqualified and tried
to beat up her boss, that's a good story. Do
you find out that all the heavyweights went to KJP
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and tried to get a quit that's a pretty good story.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Mm hm. Although they've passed up some juicy, juicy stories
in the past for partisan reasons. But I just I
think part of it is that the activist left is
soured on Biden, so they now have permission to write
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But the Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Stuff coming up in a minute, it could really really
be a sign that one of the big trials against
Trump is not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I want to get into the possible cease fire they're
calling it, what is it? They're calling it blinking over
the weekend went to Israel again. They're calling it a
violence pause or something. I'll look up the exact language,
A sustained secession, something like that. Anyway, are we going
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to get the hostages back? Particularly the American hostages? Halmas
released another video over the weekend. A family member who
was on Face the Nation made me so damned angry
watching it. But we've got that story among others on
the way.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Also, Secondary of State in the Middle East over the
weekend talking about another cease fire deal.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
The way the media talks about this story and leaves
out what Hamas is and their role in it is amazing.
But more on that to come. So a couple of
Trump trial related updates.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I was really surprised to hear several of porn stars porn.
I was really shocked to hear several editors of the
National Review all agreeing that there was a better than
fifty to fifty chance that Trump gets convicted of one
or more of the felonies in the ridiculous, laughable Manhattan case.
I disagree completely. All you need is one juror to say,
(11:54):
wait a minute, this is just too much of a stretch.
He violated a misdemeanor law many years ago to try
to cover up another misdemeanor years ago. Well you're therefore
it's a bunch of felonies. You're looking at the evidence
of the law. I think the view of a number
of pundits is with that jury pool in Manhattan that
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loads Donald Trump. Well, if that's true, then his attorneys
ought to be not only fired, but disbarred and probably
jailed themselves if they allowed that bias to jury to
be seated.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
His lawyers ought to be jailed.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
To be unprecedented, But in Joe Getty's America, justice is
swift and sure anyway, Yeah, but so I was surprised
by that. But on that idiotic, you know, circus of
lawfare goes.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But I thought this was very, very intriguing. During the
hearing in before.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
The Supreme Court the other day in which they were
talking about Trump's immunity series, Clarence Thomas asked, do you
in this litigation challenge the appointment of special counsel and
the attorney Mister Sower replied that Trump's attorneys had not
raised the concern directly in the current case. He said,
(13:13):
we totally agree with the analysis provided by Attorney General's
Attorneys General Meice and Attorney General Mukasey, and I'll explain
what they said.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, maybe i'll explain it now.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They both said that if you look at the special
Council statute, Jack Smith can't be it. And other people
have made this point that he was not within the government,
he was not in a position that was approved by
the senator, appointed by the president or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He lacks the status to be special counsel.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And the fact that it's just gone ahead, I thought, well,
maybe there's some fine print somewhere else that contradicts it.
It's like people saying that to the president and vice
president can't be from the same state.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That's not true. There's a problem with it, but they
can be.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And I wonder whether there was an exception somewhere that
people just don't know about. But Clarence Thomas wanted to know,
are you guys going to pursue that? And then you
have two attorneys general laying out at length a forty
two page amicus brief questioning whether Jack Smith has lawful
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authority to undertake the criminal prosecution of Trump. Now, Trump's
attorneys explained that what did he say? Essentially, we hadn't
raised that point yet when this case went on appeal,
so we don't feel like we're allowed to argue it
in front of you. But Clarence Thomas wanted to hear
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what they thought. So it seems that there's at least
enough wait in the legal community to want to weigh
that question that I'll bet it pops up again, which
would again further delay any conceivable chance that any of
this is litigated before November.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They were talking about this on Fox News Sunday, and
I thought One Williams said something interesting. If you remember one,
he's a lefty regularly on Fox got fired from NPR
for saying, if I look around an airplane and see
a bunch of people in Muslim guard I get nervous.
He got fired from NPR for saying something that is
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true for every American anyway back in the day. I
don't know about now, but certainly post nine to eleven,
I would have felt that way. I don't even think
I would feel that way now, But anyway, one Williams
said yesterday about the Stormy Daniels try, he said, I
think what democrats need to realize is if if he's convicted,
it'll hardly have any effect at all, maybe a few people.
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If he's acquitted, it could have a huge effect on
all of this stuff where it really looks like to people. Okay,
so this was just a railroading. It was as political
as I thought was. So that's the situation Democrats to
put themselves in. If you win, you break, even if
you lose it could be devastating.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think, right, how much time do you have because
I wanted to squeeze in about one minute.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
This last part.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So in March, Trump's attorneys claimed that the Special
Council's office argues in federal court that Smith is wholly
independent of the White House in Garland, which contradicts Trump's
arguments that the federal charges against him are politically motivated.
But at the same time, the Special Council's attorney insists
that Smith is subordinate to the Attorney General and therefore
not subject to Senate confirmation under the appointment's clause of
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the US Constitution. That's what everybody's arguing about. But Trump's
attorney wrote, and I think I think he's absolutely right.
There's significant tension between the offices assurances to that court
that Smith is independent and not proseccuting the Republican nominee
for president at the direction of the Biden administration. Okay,
but the office is assurance here that Smith is not
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independent and is instead so thoroughly supervised and accountable to
President Biden and Attorney General Garland that this court should
not be concerned about such tremendous power being exercised alter
the trajectory of the ongoing presidential election.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They are simultaneously claiming both. And I'm telling you there's
some beef here.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That is really interesting. Will there be a ceasefire while
the hostages get released?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Armstrong and Geddy Saudi Arabia today, then plan stops later
in Jordan and Israel, the talk once again trying to
nail down an elusive, viable plan. As Anthony Blincoln sees it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
A moss has before a proposal that is extraordinarily, extraordinarily
generous on the part of Israel. And in this moment,
the only thing standing between the people, as annecees.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Fire, is a moss.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
But the devil, as always is in the detail talks
between the parties taking place in Cairo.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Hey, good for Anthony Blinkin on that clip right there.
He does a better job of this than practically anybody
always making it about Hamas and them. They need to
release the hostages, and they're the ones that canceled the deal.
Practically nobody else speaks that way or covers it that way.
As I was taking in news all weekend long, it's
always about a ceasefire needs to happen net and Yaho
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needs to agree to a ceasefire. Hamas is the side
that has not agreed to almost all of the ceasefires,
and the few that Israel didn't agree to. We're just
outrageous demands that nobody would ever agree to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, not to distract, but it reminds me of the
idea of like Columbia University negotiating with the people occupying
the quad. It's not in their interest to come to
an agreement. The demonstrators, they're not going to. They're stringing
you along, they're messing with you. So they're talking about
a six week pause.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Will it? I didn't know what would be in that
clip and what wouldn't be. Let's hear seventy two. This
is John Kirby, they're spokesman on one of the shows yesterday.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Hamas has not fully rejected it. They are considering this
proposal on the table. If we can get that in place,
then that gives you six weeks a piece. It gives
you no fighting for six weeks, and that includes no.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Fighting in Rafa.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
And what we're hoping is that after six weeks of
a temporary ceasefire, we can maybe get something more enduring
in place.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So how about that that was one of those present
a hypothetical. Then talk about it for a while. I
mean he starts with the Hamas hasn't completely rejected it. Okay, Well,
they've rejected every other proposal and sounds to me like
this one isn't looking that good either. And then you
jump into the So then we get six weeks of
ceasefire and we could build on the six weeks. Okay,
it's not gonna hap right right. It's politics.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just trying to solidify their left flank, the young
left flank.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Trying to make it seem like they're really pushing Net
and Yahu for a ceasefire. And the problem is the
always making it look like Net and Yahoo's the one
walking away from the ceasefires. Anyway. So a little more
on this. This from the Wall Street Journal. Domestic pressure
for Israel to reach a deal is mounting. Benny Gant,
So there's only three members in the war cabinet netanyaho.
This Benny Gantz guy, who's an opposition leader, said someday
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that the Israeli government shouldn't reject a responsible outline for
the return of hostages. Okay, he might be being pretty
careful with his wording there responsible, and then he'll determine
it's not responsible because he goes on to say that
the outline shouldn't entail ending the war. So he's not
on board with the we have a ceasefire that turns
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into the war ending, as was suggested there by John Kirby.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then what John and then just peacefully coexist with
the maas they tried that.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Another opposition leader this year, Lapid that I don't know,
is a fierce critic of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but
over the weekend defended his country's conduct in the war
so far. So I think there's more agreement than disagreement
among net Nyahho and his opposition leaders. That's just today
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I read it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, I haven't been involve in negotiations both successful
and unsuccessful, through the years. After you reach a certain
point where very reasonable proposals have been turned down over
and over again, you have to you have to come
to the conclusion, Oh, the other side does not want
to reach an agreement. There's no way that we can
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meet in the middle. And that's clearly that's the point
that we're at with Hamas or the world or Israel
is with Hamas.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They don't want an agreement. Yeah, there's this woman on
Face the Nation yesterday I found so annoying, and she's
in a difficult position. She's got a family member who's
one of the hostages. And Hamas released another one of
those videos over the weekend of this older gentleman, an
American that they snatched up and family hadn't heard from
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him since October seventh, had no idea if he was
dead or not.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Everybody should know this guy's name, by the way, and
nobody us in America.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not exactly sure why that is. As you pointed out,
Brittany Griner was a household name. I still know her name.
Why do I know the name of a WNBA player
who had drugs in her bag and got held in
Russia for a while. But nobody is even attempting to
make these six Americans now five I guess household names.
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So anyway, so family members on Face the Nation yesterday
and she states a bunch of things that really deserved
pushback from the host to Face the Nation, But she
said the fact that HAMAS is releasing these videos shows
that they're willing to negotiate. No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't,
absolutely does not. And then she made the statement, I'm
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concerned that Benjamin Netanyah, who's personal political interests are taking
priority over the lives of the hostages, and the host
to face the nation. There she said, in what way
or what is said that leads you to believe that
I appreciated her saying anything. And the family member of
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the hostage said, I'm not here to talk politics and
then went on something else. So you just made an
incredibly inflammatory statement, Benjamin Natanya who cares more about staying
in power than whether or not the hostages die. You
just stated that. Then when you're pressed on why do
you think that, you say, I don't want to talk politics. Okay,
that's fair. Then she said and went on to say,
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and this is on Facination got this is their big
exclusive interview with a family member of one of the hostages.
There have been many deals on the table that have
fallen through, and I'm worried that Benjamin not you. Why
can't I say his name Benny? Benny? What should I
call him? What's a good nickname? So I don't have
to say be bbbe? She said? Many deals have been
on the table that have fallen through, and I'm worried
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that Bebe is just doing this for personal political interests.
Almost all of the agreements have been rejected by Hamas,
not Bebe.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And it's not because Israel is making outlandish, ridiculous demands either. Again,
as Blinking indicated incredibly generous.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
At no point did she or the host of Face
and Nation say anything negative about Hamas at all. Hamas
could give back the hostages at any moment and then
the whole thing if they wanted to, but they have
no interest in doing that. And they're the bad guys here.
It's pretty clear who the bad guys are. I think,
unless you're a college kid, that Hamas are the bad guys.
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No mention of that whatsoever. Benjamin Nett, Yeah, how bad guy,
bad guy, bad guy had a number of statements about
him being a bad guy. No mention of Hamas being
the bad guys. Right did we get here?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And again I hesitate to criticize that woman too harshly
because she's in an emotional place that I can't even imagine.
But this is why you don't have the families of
hostages negotiating their release in a complex situation with that
the obvious like this, the obvious exceptions being if it's
Mel Gibson or Liam Neeson, than they are absolutely in
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charge of for covering the hostages. Yeah, she's in a
terrible spot. So thank you for.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Your opinion, but you're you're completely wrong. I don't know.
I'm willing to criticize her because she said some really
really awful things. Uh, my family member gets snatched by Hamas.
I hate Hamas. I don't let my personal politics. She
probably hated Benjamin Netanyahu from the beginning, didn't like his politics,
which is fine, you get to Uh, but she's letting
that override the reality of who took her family member
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and is likely to kill them.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think it's a version of Stockholm syndrome. Honestly, she
knows her sense is the only way she can get
her loved one back is to a piece Amas, and
so she's appeasing Hamas. It's I just think it's as
simple as that. Psychologically, well, well, sorry, sorry, your loved
one got snatched up, but we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We'll see if this ceasefire happens or not. And the
goal is to keep Israel from going into Rafa because
Hamas has cleverly surrounded themselves with over a million very
hungry Palestinians. So if Israel goes in there, it's gonna
be ugly. Yeah, and they know it, and they don't
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care how many Palestinian babies die. The more the better
for Hamas.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And it's slightly frustrating and causes me great you know,
contempt and derision toward the college protesters, that Israel is
trying to limit civilian casualties and Hamas is trying to
maximize them. But that just doesn't come up in the
quote unquote conversation.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So my ultimate point then then I'll shut up about this.
If this ceasefire deal falls through, and I would guess
that it will, what do you think, yeah, oh no, no,
it won't happen. Then if Israel does go into Rafa,
and there's a lot of pressure from Joe Biden, we've
got Mitch McConnell saying Joe Biden with the United States
shouldn't be telling Israel what to do with their warplanes.
But if it goes into off of the college protest,
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thing is going to be a nitro fuel. I mean,
we ain't seen nothing yet, I think, yeah, yeah, possible.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
My only question is will summer vacation affect this? Yeah,
the caid go home, maybe they'll be marching in the
streets like the BLM craft.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Why did they get June? So we got a month
and a half maybe at the latest month, so you
got about a month. You're right when the kids, when
the college is over, I suppose that that will calm
it down, just from that standpoint. And then yeah, I
wonder when's college go back into session. This is actually
kind of important from the convention standpoint. August, Well, the
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kids rally round the Democratic Convention even if they're not
in school, or do you have to be in school
to get super fired up for this stuff? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's an interesting question. How many of them have summer jobs?
Very very few. Yeah, the democh crad of convention is
the week of the nineteenth August nineteenth? Would they be
back at school by that, Well, those who aren't will
be in Chicago marching, enchanting and setting fires and fighting cops.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's so well, we the Armstrong and Getty Show live
from Chicago wearing gas masks, and I hope it doesn't
turn into such a s show that like we can't
even like leave our hotel and go to the convention
center and do our thing. I'm gonna get.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm gonna bring a nice stick with me, and you know,
if the cops need help, I'm just gonna offer it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hey, I'm here to whale on some hippies. If you
need some any anger you've had at hippies your whole life,
you have to take it all? Right then? Huh, that's horrible?
I should we do? Think I'm not gonna hurt anybody? No,
of course not. You don't even own a night stick,
not yet take one on the plane. You have to
check your night stick?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I think you do. Yeah, Oh, that's sensible precaution.
We'll finish strong next Armstrong.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And I'm not saying both candidates are old, but you know,
Jimmy Carter is out there thinking I could maybe win
this thing.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's pretty funny. Dang it, I got another negative note.
We don't want to end on a negative note, do we.
I should probably say that for a moment.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
This sounds like a challenge to me. I'll come up
with a positive side.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Peggy Noonan and The Wall Street Journal wrote a piece
over the weekn that I like the uglification of everything.
She's talking a little bit about our there's a new
version of Cabaret out and it's like a darker take
on cabaret. And she's just talking about why a darker
take on all these things that we liked before, the
uglification of everything? How much time I got, Michael, do
I have time to get into this? Got about three minutes?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Got plenty of time. The uglification of everything. But we've
talked about that a number of times over the years.
Why you know perfectly good? How Scooby Doo Batman? Why
has everything got to be dark? Miserable? Now? It's a
negative time, a pessimistic time.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, that's what she writes. I wish to protest the
current ugliness. I see it as a continuing trend, the
uglification of everything. It is coming out of our culture
with picked up speed and from many media silos. And
I don't like it because, even though it isn't new,
uglification is rising and spreading as an artistic attitude. And
it can't be good for us because it speaks of
self hatred, and a society that hates his self and
(30:27):
hates life won't last because It gives those who are
young nothing to love and feel soft about, because.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
We need beauty to keep our morale up. Because life
isn't murday in spirit, in spite of what our entertainment
geniuses say. I had to look up murday. It's a
French word for excrement, for.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Poop, yep, because life isn't s in spite of what
our entertainment geniuses.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Say fecal matter. It's interesting, Professor Johnny there, does everything
have to be dark? And what's wrong? Of course you
might ask that about this show. So we're coming on.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
A troprin ill aimed criticism. There, Sarah, I'll not have it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I missed the marks.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, we're not trying to encourage it. We're trying to
stop it. Gotcha trying to diagnose it? Yeah, the relentless
self hatred and everything sucks. It's a fad. It's a mood,
and moods are not inevitable. They tend to rise and
fall and come and go, but based partly on circumstances,
but partly on what's hip.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I took the kids to a movie over the weekend,
went say, King Kong. Maybe I'll talk about that later.
We so much punching, but there's a really loud cruel
young people in the movie theater. And I thought to myself,
since this happens to me so often, I thought, maybe
I'm like no country for old men. Maybe I'm just
a times have changed. I just can't go to movies
(31:53):
anymore or shows of any kind because culture has degraded
so much. Yeah, yeah, now that may be.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I found the experience extremely frustrating going to my kids
shows and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I did go to the manager twice, and the second
time I went, I said, look, I know you probably
get people complaining about this all the time, but if
you can't get those people to shut up, I'm gonna
ask for my money back. And there was like this
twenty eight year old dude who clearly luckily kind of
was thinking a challenge accepted. He was looking forward to
go down and shut those people up. But you got
to have somebody like that at your concert hall or
(32:30):
movie theater or whatever, because most people are kind of
I don't want to get into a conflict with somebody
at our place of business, so I think I'll just
let them do what they want.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, partly out of fear that they might be somebody's
who's spoiling for a fight themselves or.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, but god, the culture culture's lost if we all
go that direction. Agreed. Oh yeah, agreed completely.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
So who was King Kong battling the air Force like
in the original, or some giant lizard or.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
What some new giant ape that lives in Middle Earth?
And King Kong and Godzilla actually teamed up. We'll take
any giant thing. Yeah, did not see that, right, And
Mathra makes an appearance which I hadn't seen Matha in
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
M Wow, wow, primate, some primate come lately from Middle Earth?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You say, Godzilla and King Kong working together against this
evil bastard. But it was a different giant ape. Oh yeah,
very scary looking ape.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Jack and Joe just had a very robust and productive
conversation this morning, working together to discuss very important issues
together in this moment in time and now together in
this moment they will have final thoughts with Armstrong and Getdy.
This is the most final thoughts of our lifetime, and
(33:51):
it is time to share the final thoughts they have
been thinking, and that time is every day.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This is the most final thoughts of our life. That's
a really good Kamala Harris right there, Thank you Ai.
Here's your host for final thoughts to Joe Getty. Let's
get a final thought from everybody on the crew. To
wrap things up for the day. There is our technical director,
Michael Angelo. Michael finally, very proud of myself. I did
not have a donut. Jack had some donuts sent to
the building today. I have not touched one. I haven't
(34:18):
eaten one. I've put my finger in each one, but
I haven't eaten one. I'm good for you, Michael. I
didn't eat one either. Thanks for your restraint.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Katie Green are esteemed to Newswoman as a final thought, Katie, I.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Think this world needs more cheeseball man.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yes exactly. Yeah. Here here Jack a final thought for us,
my son who really liked to talk deep about the
King Kong movie after we left it and the storylines
and everything, Like, I thinks that's the final King Kong
Godzilla movie because they wrapped up all the storylines. All
I know is I was thinking, I sure as hell
hope So I cannot watch another King Kong Goodzilla movie.
(34:51):
I just can't. The special effects are amazing, but I
just can't watch anymore King Kong movies. Oh man, I
think I've seen before in the last year.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh how many giant apes are enough?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Son?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
My final thought is I absolutely cannot recommend day drinking
in the sunshine, but I certainly had a good time
doing it. Yesterday I was leaving the golf course after
a round of golf, having had a beer with my friends,
and saw some other friends and they called me.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
A meow meow for leaving. So naturally I can take
that challenge sitting down, all right, Are you suggesting.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That I am somehow a pussy cat, Well I'll show you.
And I sat down, and I was there for quite
some time.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I will show you by getting inebriated exactly how you'll
suggest I am not man enough to be inebriated. Armstrong
and getdy rabbit up. But other grueling four hour workday.
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Pick up a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
There's an AGY fan in your life who would hoot
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Speaker 3 (36:00):
Is the Trump trial going on again today? Nobody knows. Yeah,
I think it is. I think it is. I haven't
heard anything about it. See tomorrow, God bless America. I'm
strong and Getty. They shouldn't live in this world. I
had never heard together. Back, I yield the rest of
my time, but this, it's outrageous. It is dangerous and
so gootess, I'm gonna call my lawyer. Gun it's true.
(36:25):
That's right, he said.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Wow, okay, so let's go with a bang.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then the stuff earlier criticize. I'm a man wearing
mink underwear right.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Now that I know. Thank you all very much, Armstrong
and Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Have an update on cricket Gate. That's the governor of
South Dakota shooting her dog up dinner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Stay tuned for that, Katie, Can you help us understand
what we are about to hear?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Only the greatest story of the weekend. This so about
a couple weeks ago, flyers started popping up around New
York City with a picture of this guy wearing an
orange mask and it said, come to Union Square Park
at three pm on April twenty seventh to watch me
eat an entire jar of cheeseballs. And at the bottom
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it had an Instagram handle cheeseball Man four to seven.
Nobody has any idea this guy's identity, and he had
an Instagram account and posted to promote the event.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And God met a different point in my life. I
am there, I am so there. I have put that
on my calendar and I make sure I am free
at that moment, and so were hundreds of other people.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Wow, he sounds like a party to me. Yeah, And
so we have audio of outland.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
He just ate the final ball, what was that least
rose balls?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And at the end, after he finished the ball, somebody
came up and put a giant orange traffic cone hat
on his head, and he had a flag of himself
holding a jar of cheeseballs, and he ran around the
crowd with the flag.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was fantastic. The world needs more of this, not less.
You know what this reminds me of. And this might
be because this was another difficult time in world history.
You know're like way back like World War One era,
Depression era, something like that, when like people climbing up
on flagpoles and sitting up there or swallowing goldfish or
(02:25):
whatever it mutting themselves into automobiles, yeah, phone booths.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I wonder if when times get really ugly, if we
don't just like look for really odd escapes like cheeseball man,
cheeseball man. I think I can can do it. I
could do it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think I could eat And I've bought those giant
jars of cheese balls before. I've got to admit I'm
not one hundred percent sure I know what a cheese
ball is. I mean, I know, like the big cheeseball
you have at a party and you slice that put
it on crack, smaller than a golf ball.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's like a cheese puff. Yeah, bigger, pretty big cheese puff.
And you can buy where do you buy the big
jar of them? I've purchased him before.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
They've got him at Costco. You can get them at Bethmo.
They're a big bar snack.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Costco is where I've probably purchased the big cheese thing.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So I think I have actually seen that delicious So
how how impressive of feet? Oh you consider ingesting an
entire jar of them on a scale is say one
to five, the whole.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Jars of five, you would feel so awful afterwards.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The jar that he consumed was twice the size of
his head.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, that those jars. I've purchased that very jar. It's
pretty big.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I I could do it, but I would vomit, I'm
pretty sure. And it would rip all the skin off
the roof of your mouth. You can't eat a lot
of those cheese balls without just destroying your mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wow. So that was a real act of bravery. Yeah,
why the crowd in trouble time?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So I just love that he put out flyers come
see me eat an entire jar of cheese balls Saturday
at too, and people show up and cheered, let's hear
the audio again, Michael, why not.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Do we have any idea how long it took him?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then I would like how this ended. And then
everybody thinks, well, I guess we've got a bottom much
out of this as we can, and they come on,
can Katie have a microphone?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
After a half hour, cheeseball man accomplished his quest and
immediately started signing autographs.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
There you go, and now he's viral or something, so
many just signed them CBM. But that's fine. Starting update
on the governor shooting her dog if you haven't heard
that story, the governor of South Dakota, who was supposedly
on the short list for Trump's VP. Of course, nobody
(05:16):
knows the inner workings of Trump's mind at any point,
but she's got a book coming out. Somebody got a
hold of an early excerpt in which she tells the
story of shooting a dog on her farm that was
eating chickens. And that is as common as common can be.
I watched so much punditary about this over the weekend,
where people acted like this was just outrageous and how
(05:38):
could this ever happen? And I saw some ranchers say that,
trust me, I live on a ranch. This is not
ranch behavior. Okay, well either, don't your line, because it is.
And I know somebody who looks exactly like me who
has done the same thing. Unfortunately, it's not something you enjoy.
But and we got a couple of texts like this one.
Oregon state law clearly states if a dog is attacking
(05:58):
a human or lie, it can be shot, even in Oregon,
sure for crying out loud, And I hope the laws
are the same in California because, as I've said, somebody
who looks just like me did the same thing with
a dog that was eating other animals. It's just the thing.
I mean, maybe, hey, dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Killed chickens on a couple of occasions back in the day,
and if somebody had shot them, I would have been very,
very sad, but I would not have. I mean, I
understand the law. If your dog is killing livestock, the
owner of the livestock gets to kill it, and if
it won't stop, you need to. I mean you can well,
(06:36):
and especially because her dog attacked humans as well. So anyway,
so We've got an update on that. Hard to imagine
what the update is. I assume the dog is still deceased,
but I'll stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
The update was at many states around the country. Not
only is it not like horrific crime, it's perfectly legal.
It's like stated in the law. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I first became aware of this on twin when various people,
including Jonah Goldberg of The Dispatch, were acting as if
she'd shot her dog because it wouldn't sit after she
asked it the first time, when it wasn't that at all.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's just silly. I mean, it's it's ugly, but it's reality.
The reality politically is I think she's now completely off
the list of any chance of being VP because it
just shows poor judgment to put that in the book.
I think, Yeah, it reminds me of cowardly corporations that
fire people for being on the wrong side of a
(07:31):
political issue, say back in the heyday of the Black
Lives Matter deal. On the other hand, it's cowardly and
gives in to evil, which strengthens evil. On the other hand,
I can see them thinking we'll have somebody work for
us who doesn't bring scrutiny down on us. Two quick
political things. A number of Republican Senators came out over
the weekend and said they would not go along with
(07:53):
any effort to do away with the filibuster if Trump
becomes president. You'll remember Trump when he was president, pressured
Mitch mc connell to do with with philibuscal Philip buster.
Mitch McConnell, to his credit, in my mind, held firm
against it. A handful of Republican senators in a written
statement over the weekend said they'd be against it, and
that's all it takes to make that not happen. So
(08:15):
glad to see there are some grown ups still in
charge at various levels of a few thures, you know,
grown ups.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Clarence Thomas said something in the Supreme Court the other
day that got very very little attention, but it could
be really big. We'll talk about that has to do
with the tangerine tornado.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
To the other presidential candidate, President Biden, on Saturday night,
this is the New York Times. I didn't watch Biden's stuff.
I watched Calling Joe's stuff, and I thought it was
pretty funny. But I didn't watch Biden. I just I
just don't. I just don't need any more of him
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is the White House correspondence dinner we're talking about, right,
and there's summary of the beginning of it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Was President Biden and is making a full throated pitch
for the press to see the twenty twenty four election
the way that he does and ignore the horse race.
This is the New York Times summiration of it. Summation
of it translation says The New York Times he would
like more attention paid to former President Trump and has
perceived threats in less to Biden's personal and campaign shortcomings.
(09:14):
I think the New York Times was pushing back against
that a little bit because they've had a lot of
articles about a variety of things about, you know, problems
within the White House or wanting to fire KJP or
stuff like that, and Biden made the push in front
of the free press to don't talk about that stuff,
talk about how evil he is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, okay, I'm sure you do want that, Yeah, yeah, well,
and they're fairly compliant usually, But I just think Biden's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Flaws are so obvious you can't ignore him. It be ridiculous.
Some of the stories are too juicy to pass up
if you if somebody leaks to you that you know
Kamala Harrison's secret service agent was incredibly unqualified and tried
to beat up her boss, that's a good story. Do
you find out that all the heavyweights went to KJP
(10:02):
and tried to get a quit that's a pretty good story.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Mm hm. Although they've passed up some juicy, juicy stories
in the past for partisan reasons. But I just I
think part of it is that the activist left is
soured on Biden, so they now have permission to write
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But the Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Stuff coming up in a minute, it could really really
be a sign that one of the big trials against
Trump is not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I want to get into the possible cease fire they're
calling it, what is it? They're calling it blinking over
the weekend went to Israel again. They're calling it a
violence pause or something. I'll look up the exact language,
A sustained secession, something like that. Anyway, are we going
(10:47):
to get the hostages back? Particularly the American hostages? Halmas
released another video over the weekend. A family member who
was on Face the Nation made me so damned angry
watching it. But we've got that story among others on
the way.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Also, Secondary of State in the Middle East over the
weekend talking about another cease fire deal.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
The way the media talks about this story and leaves
out what Hamas is and their role in it is amazing.
But more on that to come. So a couple of
Trump trial related updates.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I was really surprised to hear several of porn stars porn.
I was really shocked to hear several editors of the
National Review all agreeing that there was a better than
fifty to fifty chance that Trump gets convicted of one
or more of the felonies in the ridiculous, laughable Manhattan case.
I disagree completely. All you need is one juror to say,
(11:54):
wait a minute, this is just too much of a stretch.
He violated a misdemeanor law many years ago to try
to cover up another misdemeanor years ago. Well you're therefore
it's a bunch of felonies. You're looking at the evidence
of the law. I think the view of a number
of pundits is with that jury pool in Manhattan that
(12:16):
loads Donald Trump. Well, if that's true, then his attorneys
ought to be not only fired, but disbarred and probably
jailed themselves if they allowed that bias to jury to
be seated.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
His lawyers ought to be jailed.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
To be unprecedented, But in Joe Getty's America, justice is
swift and sure anyway, Yeah, but so I was surprised
by that. But on that idiotic, you know, circus of
lawfare goes.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But I thought this was very, very intriguing. During the
hearing in before.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
The Supreme Court the other day in which they were
talking about Trump's immunity series, Clarence Thomas asked, do you
in this litigation challenge the appointment of special counsel and
the attorney Mister Sower replied that Trump's attorneys had not
raised the concern directly in the current case. He said,
(13:13):
we totally agree with the analysis provided by Attorney General's
Attorneys General Meice and Attorney General Mukasey, and I'll explain
what they said.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, maybe i'll explain it now.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
They both said that if you look at the special
Council statute, Jack Smith can't be it. And other people
have made this point that he was not within the government,
he was not in a position that was approved by
the senator, appointed by the president or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He lacks the status to be special counsel.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And the fact that it's just gone ahead, I thought, well,
maybe there's some fine print somewhere else that contradicts it.
It's like people saying that to the president and vice
president can't be from the same state.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That's not true. There's a problem with it, but they
can be.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And I wonder whether there was an exception somewhere that
people just don't know about. But Clarence Thomas wanted to know,
are you guys going to pursue that? And then you
have two attorneys general laying out at length a forty
two page amicus brief questioning whether Jack Smith has lawful
(14:25):
authority to undertake the criminal prosecution of Trump. Now, Trump's
attorneys explained that what did he say? Essentially, we hadn't
raised that point yet when this case went on appeal,
so we don't feel like we're allowed to argue it
in front of you. But Clarence Thomas wanted to hear
(14:46):
what they thought. So it seems that there's at least
enough wait in the legal community to want to weigh
that question that I'll bet it pops up again, which
would again further delay any conceivable chance that any of
this is litigated before November.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They were talking about this on Fox News Sunday, and
I thought One Williams said something interesting. If you remember one,
he's a lefty regularly on Fox got fired from NPR
for saying, if I look around an airplane and see
a bunch of people in Muslim guard I get nervous.
He got fired from NPR for saying something that is
(15:28):
true for every American anyway back in the day. I
don't know about now, but certainly post nine to eleven,
I would have felt that way. I don't even think
I would feel that way now, But anyway, one Williams
said yesterday about the Stormy Daniels try, he said, I
think what democrats need to realize is if if he's convicted,
it'll hardly have any effect at all, maybe a few people.
(15:49):
If he's acquitted, it could have a huge effect on
all of this stuff where it really looks like to people. Okay,
so this was just a railroading. It was as political
as I thought was. So that's the situation Democrats to
put themselves in. If you win, you break, even if
you lose it could be devastating.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think, right, how much time do you have because
I wanted to squeeze in about one minute.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
This last part.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So in March, Trump's attorneys claimed that the Special
Council's office argues in federal court that Smith is wholly
independent of the White House in Garland, which contradicts Trump's
arguments that the federal charges against him are politically motivated.
But at the same time, the Special Council's attorney insists
that Smith is subordinate to the Attorney General and therefore
not subject to Senate confirmation under the appointment's clause of
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the US Constitution. That's what everybody's arguing about. But Trump's
attorney wrote, and I think I think he's absolutely right.
There's significant tension between the offices assurances to that court
that Smith is independent and not proseccuting the Republican nominee
for president at the direction of the Biden administration. Okay,
but the office is assurance here that Smith is not
(16:57):
independent and is instead so thoroughly supervised and accountable to
President Biden and Attorney General Garland that this court should
not be concerned about such tremendous power being exercised alter
the trajectory of the ongoing presidential election.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They are simultaneously claiming both. And I'm telling you there's
some beef here.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That is really interesting. Will there be a ceasefire while
the hostages get released?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Armstrong and Geddy Saudi Arabia today, then plan stops later
in Jordan and Israel, the talk once again trying to
nail down an elusive, viable plan. As Anthony Blincoln sees it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
A moss has before a proposal that is extraordinarily, extraordinarily
generous on the part of Israel. And in this moment,
the only thing standing between the people, as annecees.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Fire, is a moss.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
But the devil, as always is in the detail talks
between the parties taking place in Cairo.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Hey, good for Anthony Blinkin on that clip right there.
He does a better job of this than practically anybody
always making it about Hamas and them. They need to
release the hostages, and they're the ones that canceled the deal.
Practically nobody else speaks that way or covers it that way.
As I was taking in news all weekend long, it's
always about a ceasefire needs to happen net and Yaho
(18:16):
needs to agree to a ceasefire. Hamas is the side
that has not agreed to almost all of the ceasefires,
and the few that Israel didn't agree to. We're just
outrageous demands that nobody would ever agree to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, not to distract, but it reminds me of the
idea of like Columbia University negotiating with the people occupying
the quad. It's not in their interest to come to
an agreement. The demonstrators, they're not going to. They're stringing
you along, they're messing with you. So they're talking about
a six week pause.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Will it? I didn't know what would be in that
clip and what wouldn't be. Let's hear seventy two. This
is John Kirby, they're spokesman on one of the shows yesterday.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Hamas has not fully rejected it. They are considering this
proposal on the table. If we can get that in place,
then that gives you six weeks a piece. It gives
you no fighting for six weeks, and that includes no.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Fighting in Rafa.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
And what we're hoping is that after six weeks of
a temporary ceasefire, we can maybe get something more enduring
in place.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So how about that that was one of those present
a hypothetical. Then talk about it for a while. I
mean he starts with the Hamas hasn't completely rejected it. Okay, Well,
they've rejected every other proposal and sounds to me like
this one isn't looking that good either. And then you
jump into the So then we get six weeks of
ceasefire and we could build on the six weeks. Okay,
it's not gonna hap right right. It's politics.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just trying to solidify their left flank, the young
left flank.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Trying to make it seem like they're really pushing Net
and Yahu for a ceasefire. And the problem is the
always making it look like Net and Yahoo's the one
walking away from the ceasefires. Anyway. So a little more
on this. This from the Wall Street Journal. Domestic pressure
for Israel to reach a deal is mounting. Benny Gant,
So there's only three members in the war cabinet netanyaho.
This Benny Gantz guy, who's an opposition leader, said someday
(20:06):
that the Israeli government shouldn't reject a responsible outline for
the return of hostages. Okay, he might be being pretty
careful with his wording there responsible, and then he'll determine
it's not responsible because he goes on to say that
the outline shouldn't entail ending the war. So he's not
on board with the we have a ceasefire that turns
(20:26):
into the war ending, as was suggested there by John Kirby.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then what John and then just peacefully coexist with
the maas they tried that.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Another opposition leader this year, Lapid that I don't know,
is a fierce critic of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but
over the weekend defended his country's conduct in the war
so far. So I think there's more agreement than disagreement
among net Nyahho and his opposition leaders. That's just today
(20:58):
I read it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, I haven't been involve in negotiations both successful
and unsuccessful, through the years. After you reach a certain
point where very reasonable proposals have been turned down over
and over again, you have to you have to come
to the conclusion, Oh, the other side does not want
to reach an agreement. There's no way that we can
(21:20):
meet in the middle. And that's clearly that's the point
that we're at with Hamas or the world or Israel
is with Hamas.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They don't want an agreement. Yeah, there's this woman on
Face the Nation yesterday I found so annoying, and she's
in a difficult position. She's got a family member who's
one of the hostages. And Hamas released another one of
those videos over the weekend of this older gentleman, an
American that they snatched up and family hadn't heard from
(21:53):
him since October seventh, had no idea if he was
dead or not.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Everybody should know this guy's name, by the way, and
nobody us in America.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not exactly sure why that is. As you pointed out,
Brittany Griner was a household name. I still know her name.
Why do I know the name of a WNBA player
who had drugs in her bag and got held in
Russia for a while. But nobody is even attempting to
make these six Americans now five I guess household names.
(22:23):
So anyway, so family members on Face the Nation yesterday
and she states a bunch of things that really deserved
pushback from the host to Face the Nation, But she
said the fact that HAMAS is releasing these videos shows
that they're willing to negotiate. No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't,
absolutely does not. And then she made the statement, I'm
(22:45):
concerned that Benjamin Netanyah, who's personal political interests are taking
priority over the lives of the hostages, and the host
to face the nation. There she said, in what way
or what is said that leads you to believe that
I appreciated her saying anything. And the family member of
(23:05):
the hostage said, I'm not here to talk politics and
then went on something else. So you just made an
incredibly inflammatory statement, Benjamin Natanya who cares more about staying
in power than whether or not the hostages die. You
just stated that. Then when you're pressed on why do
you think that, you say, I don't want to talk politics. Okay,
that's fair. Then she said and went on to say,
(23:29):
and this is on Facination got this is their big
exclusive interview with a family member of one of the hostages.
There have been many deals on the table that have
fallen through, and I'm worried that Benjamin not you. Why
can't I say his name Benny? Benny? What should I
call him? What's a good nickname? So I don't have
to say be bbbe? She said? Many deals have been
on the table that have fallen through, and I'm worried
(23:49):
that Bebe is just doing this for personal political interests.
Almost all of the agreements have been rejected by Hamas,
not Bebe.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And it's not because Israel is making outlandish, ridiculous demands either. Again,
as Blinking indicated incredibly generous.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
At no point did she or the host of Face
and Nation say anything negative about Hamas at all. Hamas
could give back the hostages at any moment and then
the whole thing if they wanted to, but they have
no interest in doing that. And they're the bad guys here.
It's pretty clear who the bad guys are. I think,
unless you're a college kid, that Hamas are the bad guys.
(24:28):
No mention of that whatsoever. Benjamin Nett, Yeah, how bad guy,
bad guy, bad guy had a number of statements about
him being a bad guy. No mention of Hamas being
the bad guys. Right did we get here?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And again I hesitate to criticize that woman too harshly
because she's in an emotional place that I can't even imagine.
But this is why you don't have the families of
hostages negotiating their release in a complex situation with that
the obvious like this, the obvious exceptions being if it's
Mel Gibson or Liam Neeson, than they are absolutely in
(25:02):
charge of for covering the hostages. Yeah, she's in a
terrible spot. So thank you for.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Your opinion, but you're you're completely wrong. I don't know.
I'm willing to criticize her because she said some really
really awful things. Uh, my family member gets snatched by Hamas.
I hate Hamas. I don't let my personal politics. She
probably hated Benjamin Netanyahu from the beginning, didn't like his politics,
which is fine, you get to Uh, but she's letting
that override the reality of who took her family member
(25:33):
and is likely to kill them.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think it's a version of Stockholm syndrome. Honestly, she
knows her sense is the only way she can get
her loved one back is to a piece Amas, and
so she's appeasing Hamas. It's I just think it's as
simple as that. Psychologically, well, well, sorry, sorry, your loved
one got snatched up, but we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We'll see if this ceasefire happens or not. And the
goal is to keep Israel from going into Rafa because
Hamas has cleverly surrounded themselves with over a million very
hungry Palestinians. So if Israel goes in there, it's gonna
be ugly. Yeah, and they know it, and they don't
(26:17):
care how many Palestinian babies die. The more the better
for Hamas.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And it's slightly frustrating and causes me great you know,
contempt and derision toward the college protesters, that Israel is
trying to limit civilian casualties and Hamas is trying to
maximize them. But that just doesn't come up in the
quote unquote conversation.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So my ultimate point then then I'll shut up about this.
If this ceasefire deal falls through, and I would guess
that it will, what do you think, yeah, oh no, no,
it won't happen. Then if Israel does go into Rafa,
and there's a lot of pressure from Joe Biden, we've
got Mitch McConnell saying Joe Biden with the United States
shouldn't be telling Israel what to do with their warplanes.
But if it goes into off of the college protest,
(27:01):
thing is going to be a nitro fuel. I mean,
we ain't seen nothing yet, I think, yeah, yeah, possible.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
My only question is will summer vacation affect this? Yeah,
the caid go home, maybe they'll be marching in the
streets like the BLM craft.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Why did they get June? So we got a month
and a half maybe at the latest month, so you
got about a month. You're right when the kids, when
the college is over, I suppose that that will calm
it down, just from that standpoint. And then yeah, I
wonder when's college go back into session. This is actually
kind of important from the convention standpoint. August, Well, the
(27:42):
kids rally round the Democratic Convention even if they're not
in school, or do you have to be in school
to get super fired up for this stuff? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's an interesting question. How many of them have summer jobs?
Very very few. Yeah, the democh crad of convention is
the week of the nineteenth August nineteenth? Would they be
back at school by that, Well, those who aren't will
be in Chicago marching, enchanting and setting fires and fighting cops.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's so well, we the Armstrong and Getty Show live
from Chicago wearing gas masks, and I hope it doesn't
turn into such a s show that like we can't
even like leave our hotel and go to the convention
center and do our thing. I'm gonna get.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm gonna bring a nice stick with me, and you know,
if the cops need help, I'm just gonna offer it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hey, I'm here to whale on some hippies. If you
need some any anger you've had at hippies your whole life,
you have to take it all? Right then? Huh, that's horrible?
I should we do? Think I'm not gonna hurt anybody? No,
of course not. You don't even own a night stick,
not yet take one on the plane. You have to
check your night stick?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I think you do. Yeah, Oh, that's sensible precaution.
We'll finish strong next Armstrong.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And I'm not saying both candidates are old, but you know,
Jimmy Carter is out there thinking I could maybe win
this thing.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's pretty funny. Dang it, I got another negative note.
We don't want to end on a negative note, do we.
I should probably say that for a moment.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
This sounds like a challenge to me. I'll come up
with a positive side.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Peggy Noonan and The Wall Street Journal wrote a piece
over the weekn that I like the uglification of everything.
She's talking a little bit about our there's a new
version of Cabaret out and it's like a darker take
on cabaret. And she's just talking about why a darker
take on all these things that we liked before, the
uglification of everything? How much time I got, Michael, do
I have time to get into this? Got about three minutes?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Got plenty of time. The uglification of everything. But we've
talked about that a number of times over the years.
Why you know perfectly good? How Scooby Doo Batman? Why
has everything got to be dark? Miserable? Now? It's a
negative time, a pessimistic time.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, that's what she writes. I wish to protest the
current ugliness. I see it as a continuing trend, the
uglification of everything. It is coming out of our culture
with picked up speed and from many media silos. And
I don't like it because, even though it isn't new,
uglification is rising and spreading as an artistic attitude. And
it can't be good for us because it speaks of
self hatred, and a society that hates his self and
(30:27):
hates life won't last because It gives those who are
young nothing to love and feel soft about, because.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
We need beauty to keep our morale up. Because life
isn't murday in spirit, in spite of what our entertainment
geniuses say. I had to look up murday. It's a
French word for excrement, for.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Poop, yep, because life isn't s in spite of what
our entertainment geniuses.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Say fecal matter. It's interesting, Professor Johnny there, does everything
have to be dark? And what's wrong? Of course you
might ask that about this show. So we're coming on.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
A troprin ill aimed criticism. There, Sarah, I'll not have it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I missed the marks.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, we're not trying to encourage it. We're trying to
stop it. Gotcha trying to diagnose it? Yeah, the relentless
self hatred and everything sucks. It's a fad. It's a mood,
and moods are not inevitable. They tend to rise and
fall and come and go, but based partly on circumstances,
but partly on what's hip.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I took the kids to a movie over the weekend,
went say, King Kong. Maybe I'll talk about that later.
We so much punching, but there's a really loud cruel
young people in the movie theater. And I thought to myself,
since this happens to me so often, I thought, maybe
I'm like no country for old men. Maybe I'm just
a times have changed. I just can't go to movies
(31:53):
anymore or shows of any kind because culture has degraded
so much. Yeah, yeah, now that may be.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I found the experience extremely frustrating going to my kids
shows and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I did go to the manager twice, and the second
time I went, I said, look, I know you probably
get people complaining about this all the time, but if
you can't get those people to shut up, I'm gonna
ask for my money back. And there was like this
twenty eight year old dude who clearly luckily kind of
was thinking a challenge accepted. He was looking forward to
go down and shut those people up. But you got
to have somebody like that at your concert hall or
(32:30):
movie theater or whatever, because most people are kind of
I don't want to get into a conflict with somebody
at our place of business, so I think I'll just
let them do what they want.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, partly out of fear that they might be somebody's
who's spoiling for a fight themselves or.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, but god, the culture culture's lost if we all
go that direction. Agreed. Oh yeah, agreed completely.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
So who was King Kong battling the air Force like
in the original, or some giant lizard or.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
What some new giant ape that lives in Middle Earth?
And King Kong and Godzilla actually teamed up. We'll take
any giant thing. Yeah, did not see that, right, And
Mathra makes an appearance which I hadn't seen Matha in
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
M Wow, wow, primate, some primate come lately from Middle Earth?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You say, Godzilla and King Kong working together against this
evil bastard. But it was a different giant ape. Oh yeah,
very scary looking ape.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Jack and Joe just had a very robust and productive
conversation this morning, working together to discuss very important issues
together in this moment in time and now together in
this moment they will have final thoughts with Armstrong and Getdy.
This is the most final thoughts of our lifetime, and
(33:51):
it is time to share the final thoughts they have
been thinking, and that time is every day.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This is the most final thoughts of our life. That's
a really good Kamala Harris right there, Thank you Ai.
Here's your host for final thoughts to Joe Getty. Let's
get a final thought from everybody on the crew. To
wrap things up for the day. There is our technical director,
Michael Angelo. Michael finally, very proud of myself. I did
not have a donut. Jack had some donuts sent to
the building today. I have not touched one. I haven't
(34:18):
eaten one. I've put my finger in each one, but
I haven't eaten one. I'm good for you, Michael. I
didn't eat one either. Thanks for your restraint.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Katie Green are esteemed to Newswoman as a final thought, Katie, I.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Think this world needs more cheeseball man.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yes exactly. Yeah. Here here Jack a final thought for us,
my son who really liked to talk deep about the
King Kong movie after we left it and the storylines
and everything, Like, I thinks that's the final King Kong
Godzilla movie because they wrapped up all the storylines. All
I know is I was thinking, I sure as hell
hope So I cannot watch another King Kong Goodzilla movie.
(34:51):
I just can't. The special effects are amazing, but I
just can't watch anymore King Kong movies. Oh man, I
think I've seen before in the last year.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh how many giant apes are enough?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Son?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
My final thought is I absolutely cannot recommend day drinking
in the sunshine, but I certainly had a good time
doing it. Yesterday I was leaving the golf course after
a round of golf, having had a beer with my friends,
and saw some other friends and they called me.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
A meow meow for leaving. So naturally I can take
that challenge sitting down, all right, Are you suggesting.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That I am somehow a pussy cat, Well I'll show you.
And I sat down, and I was there for quite
some time.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I will show you by getting inebriated exactly how you'll
suggest I am not man enough to be inebriated. Armstrong
and getdy rabbit up. But other grueling four hour workday.
So many people who thanks so a little time.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Go to armstrong in geeddy dot com and got some
great hot links for you, a bunch of clicks, some
podcast information, Drop us a note mail bag at armstrong
in geddy dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Pick up a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
There's an AGY fan in your life who would hoot
with the light if you bought them a T shirt.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Is the Trump trial going on again today? Nobody knows. Yeah,
I think it is. I think it is. I haven't
heard anything about it. See tomorrow, God bless America. I'm
strong and Getty. They shouldn't live in this world. I
had never heard together. Back, I yield the rest of
my time, but this, it's outrageous. It is dangerous and
so gootess, I'm gonna call my lawyer. Gun it's true.
(36:25):
That's right, he said.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Wow, okay, so let's go with a bang.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And then the stuff earlier criticize. I'm a man wearing
mink underwear right.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Now that I know. Thank you all very much, Armstrong
and Getty
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