April 30, 2024 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and
Getty and Key.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Excuse me, that's a bad shat. Oh boy, that's a
bad omen. That's an auger, that's what that is. Wh
from Studio C season. You're a dimly lit room deeper
from the bowels of.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
The Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. In today we're under
the tutelage of our general manager, Columbia University.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Royal dividing protests, violence, buildings, occupied windows broken.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I was just listening to NPR.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They called them anti war protests, all right, it's supposed
to want to be incredibly general about it. You could
call it anti war protests, or pro terrorists protests, or
anti Israel protests, or even more specific, anti Jews.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Being alive protests. NPR is a joke, a.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Completely unfunny, cruel joke. May they burn in the deepest,
darkest pits of hell.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't remember who I was quoting yesterday, who was
screaming where are the adults? But man, I woke up
today feeling embarrassed as an adult for adults.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Doesn't mean we're all like this, but.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm just embarrassed on behalf of adulthood that Columbia told
these protesters you have until two pm then you need
to go. You have to go, no two ways about it.
We mean it this time. Then two pm came and went.
They didn't do a single thing, and overnight the students
broke into a building and occupied it. That's embarrassing. I'm
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embarrassed as an adult.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You told your kid one more cookie, you eat one
more cookie, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You've never seen me be so angry, And then they
ended up eating the entire plate, right, and you just
sit there sputtering.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
How do people Well, the answer to my question is academia, Dude,
I was gonna say, how do people reach the point
in their lives that a lot of these folks are
at and without having absorbed that very simple life lesson. Well,
it's because they live in the pretend, make believe world
of academia. They cause play all day long. They just
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in their own nutty little ivory tower universe and convince
each other that they're very important because they can show
what papers they've been awarded by various phony universities, the
whole there's a giant clown show.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's a giant clown show. I was hearing your reporting
yesterday that Columbius cam in the tents. They had all
these tools, and I thought, what are they doing with
the tools?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Breaking into the building tonight, That's what they did with
the tools. So they used the tools to break into
They've occupied the same building that the protesters occupied in
nineteen sixty eight. Isn't that exciting? And doesn't that make
you an exciting person with your mask on?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
More cosplay, I mean literally wearing costumes terrorist costumes and
running around like their little Chai guaveras.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's just so sickening.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh, I think a lot of them on his cosplay,
some of them and is not They are just flat
out Hamas people.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, right, the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Longer I live, the more I come to realize a
lot of absolutely dedicated, ready to kill you or die
for the cause, militants have no idea what they're talking about.
How about I'd always assumed that they were like super
died and well understood all of it, the historical contact,
and it made the decision that blah blah blah, no, no,
they're idiots, right, Yeah, they've got a child's understanding of
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what they're screaming about. That is interesting to find that out.
And if they kill you, you're just his dad. Isn't that something?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's like after nine to eleven because we had
been a sleep for several decades as a country and
didn't think bad things in the world could happen to
us anymore. But remember after nine eleven is all but
trying to understand them. What have we done to make
them so mad? And it turned out their reasons were stupid,
just like these college kids reasons are stupid, and this weird,
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not accurate, some of it completely made up view of
history that they were acting on behalf of and we're
willing to kill for it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
And yeah, we're trying to establish a fundamentalist worldwide Islamic
caliphate is the thing now?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It must be, Yes, it must be something we can do.
If we're nice there, they'll be nice to us. How
can you look at yourself in the mirrors?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Seriously, though, if you say everybody's got to be out
by two pm. Two pm, this is a solid deadline,
no more negotiations, and then you let the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Time come and go, and then you let them double
down by taking over one of your buildings. How do
you get up in the morning and get dressed and
look at yourself in the mirror?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Honestly, I would be so embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
This is definitely a moment of reckoning for a lot
of these administrators. They're recognizing the monster they've created and
whether they well how they deal with it is going
to be interesting to watch, but the lesson will soon
be forgotten again.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So well the I don't know if you saw what
was going on in the middle of the afternoon, but
a hell of a lot of teachers in orange vests.
Yellow vests. Yeah, we're linking arms around the tents to
show you'd have to you have to go through us.
The teachers fire them all, every one of them. That
seems like the clear reason. First of all, you just
start expelling students left and right. We're expelling you all.
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You no longer exist here, and now you're on the
property illegally because you have no right to be here
because you're not a student. It's not that hard. What
do they think the blowback would be if you want
to reapply, eh, correct in six months or next semester.
We're willing to chat maybe, but as of now you're trespassing.
You have five minutes. Five But uh, TikTok, ticktok. But
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I'm asking this question, honestly, what is the what is
the blowback that they're concerned.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
About escalation in general? I actually read a really interesting
piece by a prominent thinker talking about how the militants
are desperate for escalation. It's like that putting your opponent
in a decision dilemma thing, or you wag your finger
right in front of their face so they make a
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violent act so you can portray them as the oppressor.
They're desperate for Columbia to start arresting people and cracking
heads and that sort of thing. That's the irony of this.
And so this thinker I was reading suggested more of
a siege. You put up a fence around them, with
carefully controlled entrance into egress if you will, this way
to the egress. And it's an old PT. Barnum reference anyway,
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if you if you caught it, you have my anyway
back to my screen. So control entrance and leaving to
the area, and as soon as anybody leaves, bar them
from coming back. And they've got to leave eventually to
get food and and and go to the toilet or
what have you, and just let it peter out. But
that's not going to work now because they've taken over
a building. So you would have to actually like lay
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siege to a building and starve them out over the
course of weeks, which could be I don't know what
that could be.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's certainly not good pr I don't I don't know this.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
This could well be the dawn of an awful new
age in America, and I shouldn't be laughing about it.
On the other hand, our university system is so corrupt,
so fake.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It doesn't educate anybody.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It's it's a money grubbing scheme between government and academia.
It's full of the worst sort of neo Marxism and
race based identity politics. It's just it's it's a it's
a disease. I've said, it's a sore on the the
skin of America. So the fact that it's now like
eating itself, I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Be that upset. Wow, a sore that eats itself. This
is disgusting. It is It's also a bit of a
mixed metaphor. But anyway back to.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You, Well, yeah, so they've taken over the one of
the buildings now, so it's going to be harder to
get them out of there now because now you've got
like a you know, an urban warfare inside a building
situation going on.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, well this might be for for with all due
respect to the repugnance of what's being expressed by the demonstrators,
and that that is a subject that I'm more than
willing to engage with. Seriously, I think this might be
just what the university system in America needed.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I hope it gets worse.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well it Uh, that's going to hit your wish So
that's yes, that's there.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But it is. It is rotted through and through, like
top to bottom in so many different ways.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The risk of repeating myself, I mean, like every way
you look at it, it's corrupt, right starting with the
very most basic core tenant of they're going there to
learn that stopped happening a long time ago, so nobody's
going and learning anything.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So right there, you could stop and say what are
we doing again?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, that would be a.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Good place to come to a halt when you're asked
the point that you realize nobody's learning anything, yeah, or
bothering to teach. It's it's kind of funny that you'd
even go that you'd go any.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Further in your analysis like that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I see your point, but what is being taught is,
from an ideological point of view, entirely monochromatic, chromatic, which
is anathema to what a university ought to be. Then again,
we can get into the money grubbing bit of it,
where the government and the loans and the loan forgiveness,
then they go to whatever, including unconstitutional measures they have
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to keep the money flowing.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's a scheme, it's a con.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Let's start to show officially before we get in trouble
with the FCC and we have to lay siege to
this building.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
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Speaker 3 (10:10):
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Speaker 2 (10:17):
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Speaker 4 (10:18):
If they try to starve us out, I'm only good
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Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't miss a lot of them meets. All right,
let's start to show officially.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Now, according to sec rules of regulations, leaping into action
at mark.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
From the river to the sea, you know, from the
river to the sea is if you don't, that's all right.
Most of the students channing it don't understand that they
are chanting genocidal comments. They want to wipe out all Jews,
and they want to destroy the state of Israel, and
they want to kill Jews and push them. See, they
are Hamas on college campuses when they chant that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So yesterday Joe Scarborough went to a nutso calling at
Hamas on college campuses, which is completely accurate, and then
he got a speaking of blowback, a lot of blowback,
apparently because they were falling all over to themselves apologizing
today plenty of college students who are very well educated
on all the issues, who just want and we agree
that Benjamin Netanya who has gone too far, and blah
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blah blah, blah blah blah, which lasted for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
As I was taking an MSNBC. But then Joe Scarbourg
got all worked up again. By the end of it
was calling him all.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Terrorists again, which is speaking of amusing. They are a
bunch of terrorists, They are a bunch of white, privileged.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Elitist terrorists, pretend terrorists. Oh it's so, there are a
super bonus.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Now the university system is crumpling as it is it must,
and Joe Scarborough is losing his marbles.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This is the best week ever anyway.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
How does the mailbag look? Oh it's it's fine and dandy.
You'll enjoy it, guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
God dang it. Every day every day.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Our text line is four one five two nine five kft.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
See. So I get up today like normal.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Most the thing I'm most excited about the beginning the
day with, of course.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Is coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Start the coffee maker, come back for that coffee that
I desperately need Forgot to put the cup underneath the
machine again, Oh nook I do? Like twice a year
coffee went all over the counter and all over the floor.
So then not only you have a giant mess to
clean up, but you haven't had any caffeine yet, and
you're so angry.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And said, now you're running late. Yes, Morris stress. Oh boy,
here's your freedom up In courte of the day. During
the college protests of the nineteen sixties, Ronald Reagan, governor
of California at the time, and We have lots of
audio from him at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I've heard that. Wow, how different is that era from now?
But here's the quote from Reagan. Obey the prescribed rules
or pack up and get out, quint. Perhaps not elaborate,
no simple truth, it's not complex.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Obey the prescribed rules or pack up and get out.
There you go. That's how you deal with it. That's
how you deal with a lot of stuff in life.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Human beings are guilty of two things, thinking too little
and thinking too much. In this case, it's a thinking
too much, right.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I have comments on that, but we play some of
the rigging clips because I look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
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Speaker 4 (13:27):
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Speaker 2 (13:33):
All let's see. Nice note here from Mark Urge your program.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're discussing the recent Rand Corporation study that showed Merca's
in a lot of trouble in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And there's no example of a country ever bouncing back
from this. There sort of is kind of and that's
exactly what he's responding to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I can offer the following code. This is from an
article lection. Anyway, as institutions turned to cannibalizing each other,
there's a little Oh. The notable exception that proves the
rule of civilizational delusion is the Shao dynasty of ancient China.
It is an encouraging example since it shows a societal
failure arrested and reversed by an intellectual golden age called
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one hundred schools of thought. Confucianism, Legalism, Taoism could only
come into being with this kind of epistemic opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, I'm familiar with that, but I think the biggest
difference would be China was so isolated at that point.
So we are, we are the wealthiest nation on earth,
and everybody's the wolves are going to be at our
door immediately. It's not like we can sit around and
figure out a way to rebuild our culture, right an
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era of near instantaneous immigration and travel and informational flow
and that sort of thing, I would agree. And also,
you know, those various regenerations of China were generally preceded
by everything falling apart and then something new springing up,
some organizational structure. So you know, I mean, this land
mass will continue to be occupied by human beings that
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will find some way to govern themselves or be governed.
But I don't think it'll be a lot like the
United States in one hundred years. Yeah, if you didn't
hear that, I mean it is interesting. The Pentagon commissioned
to report, like, how's the country doing recompeting against China
on the world stage, and the determination was that we're
headed south and may be unrecoverable, and a lot of
it having to do with how like selfish and decadent
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we are, and how our politics are so polarized and
there's no civic unity, and the variety of things that
all sound completely true.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, it rang true, just when you hear the
totality of it, it's a little discouraging. Anyway, Moving along
to the correspondence, here's Tom and Sokel.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Here's a proposed solution to the campus protest problem. Mandatory
semester abroad in Gaza that would include one geography one
oh one students will learn about which river and which
sea they're actually chanting of it out. Two literature one
on one students will be taught new words to rhyme
that exclude hyde and genocide, see and free, and three
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history one on one, students will learn that Israelis have
been indigenous to this region for one thousands of years.
They'll learn about the region of Palestine during in post
the Ottoman Empire, and they will also learn that the
Ottoman Empire had nothing to do with footrests.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's tom and so cal hilarious.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I thought there was also a reference to They'll read
the Book of Genesis.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Brent in the Bay Area, California says on Monday's broadcast,
you played clip of the student protest leader that lunatic
advocating killing Zionists. While that's a heart by itself, early
in his rant, he casually mentions how we already accept
the killing of fascists, racist Nazis, et cetera. When did
we as a society decide that murdering anyone because of
their beliefs is okay? The scary part is that he's
not an isolated case, but most of these university protesters
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share the same views. Scary when we live in a
world where all some group needs to do is put
a certain label on you, and then other extreme elements
of that group might kill you because they think it's
justified and responsible. Disagree with me. You're a fascist. You're
a fascist. It's my responsibility to silence you. Crazy times,
silence means kill U.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, we ought to play some more clips of that kid,
one of the leaders of the Columbia protests, because I
learned more about his background yesterday, which really explains how
we got this moment. Pretty much. We got so much
good stuff today. The world being on fire gives you
a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Armstrong and Geddy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
A smoke screen. Bureaucracy is a prison, and the students
refuse to.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Train in the blood of Palestinians.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Today is day two hundred and five of genocide in Gaza.
We must take action to end the true state of
emergency Columbia's complicity in genocide.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, overnight's the students in Colombia who were ordered
to be gone by two pm yesterday than just stayed
there and nobody did anything about it. Broke into a
building and took it over last night, and now they're
bellowing things like this must as been what it felt
like to be my dad when he was about thirty
in the late sixties listening to this none, Why doesn't somebody.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Tell these young people to just shut up. No, no, no,
shut up. That's what needs been more shut up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
The uh, the gross oversimplification of every issue, the childlike
divest Now, I was just reading an analysis of if
every university in America divested in any company dealing with Israel,
nobody would even notice. There's just not enough money at all,
and there are trillions and trillions of dollars waiting to
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buy those shares in companies that do business with Israel.
It would make zero material difference to anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Not to mention that these universities take all kinds of
money from some abhorrent countries that oh yeah, other abhorrent
things around the world that I'm they should hate if
they don't hate, But they don't say anything about.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That billions of dollars from China and Qatar most well, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm sorry. Hotter.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
So overnight or yesterday and overnight anti Israel protesters that
Columbia took over a building after the school began suspending
students for refusing to disperse. Dozens of Columbia students occupied
Hamilton Hall, barricaded the entrances, claiming the area as their own. Well,
I'll have to look into property law. I didn't actually
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go to law school, but I don't think he won't it.
Footage emerged on social media protesters smashing windows and barricading
themselves inside the building, So.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
At that point they've committed a crime.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So there's been a certain argument about the NYPD was
waiting yesterday right off campus, ready to go in, assuming
that they would be asked to go in at two
o'clock when the students didn't leave. But they didn't go
in because it's private property. The NYPD is saying, we
can't go on too private property unless there's a crime
being committed.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's a crime being committed.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Obviously, if some you know, a husband is beating his wife,
the police can come in even if it private property.
But there was not specifically a crime being committed. But
now that they've broken into a building and are smashing windows,
that's a crime. So why can't NYPD just show up
and on their own start.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Taking people out.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hmm. I think they're working with Columbia to figure out
what to do and how to do it, which I
think is appropriate. I don't I see no need for
the NYPD to start making the decisions on this, honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But something's got to be done. You know, pro lawlessness.
Your pro lawlessness is where you are, the question of
what to do.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
When it was just a tent camp and and angry
chicks bellowing inanities at each other, and it was funny.
I and this is not a sexist thing. I know
many capable women who I think would be great presidents,
leaders of industry, and leaders of organizations. I hold dear
that sort of thing. But I watched several newses last night,
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as I'd like to say, and and I rewound a
couple of them as they went campus to campus to
camp campus, showing the chaos. And it was remarkable to
me that the crowds of angry people ranged from sixty
seventy percent female to ninety percent female. Now, I get
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that there's an imbalance on college campuses already, but the
angry militant students, I think, on average worse seventy five
to eighty percent female.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. I live in a college town.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It looks like that way already, just looking watching people
walk across the street. So yeah, there's a lot of
a lot of girls at colleges. Was like, I say, oh,
so at a number of these places where they have
been arresting people. The majority of the people they've arrested
weren't college students. They aren't from there, right right, which
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and we could certainly get into the there's a new
entity called the Escalate Network that's been established where radical
pro Palestin Indian students can find reports, strategies, tactics and
other resources to help them broaden their horizons and paralyze
all of civil societ and the global economy. And they're
being financed by the Students for Justice in Palestine, the
SJP and the WOL. I can't remember what that stands for,
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but it's like a global militant organization. So yeah, I
mean there are people and money flooding onto college campuses
to pour gasoline on what ought to be a small
and pathetic fire of misguided nineteen year old social majors. Well,
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you're not wanting to call in the NYPD, I suppose
is because it's reached this point.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It would be quite the quite the dust up to
do that. You got to, which is what they desperately want.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Militants.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You gotta snuff these things out early before they get
to this point when it's easy too. And that's where
they've done that on some campuses across the country. First
two tenths go up, No, no, no, you can't put
tents there, and they just take them down and haul
off the kids and say you're suspended.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then that's it, and it doesn't get a foothold.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But if you let it grow like Columbia has and
you got a then you're reaching a point where okay,
so are we going to have this giant makes the
history books and people are watching videos of this forty
years from now sort of mayhem or how are we
going to handle this?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's almost as if a stitch in time saves seven
to eleven stitches, you know what I mean. You can't
let this stuff get out of hand. You've got to
be decisive speaking, which this is so great. This is
Ronald Reagan in I believe, well in the sixties. We'll
just say that, responding to unrest on the campuses of
California when he was the governor, And just a quick aside,
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I saw the video and we'll play you part of
the audio. But the academics who are sitting there arguing
with him, then no, we can't do what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It would be wrong. Are just such cliches.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of the academics of the era, with their pipes and
their beards and their elbow patch jackets and everything there.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They're types in there beards. I mean, it's gonna you
discuss me with your pipe and your beard. You're bearded piping.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's just as straight out of Central casting, as they say,
is kind of funny, isn't aside? But here's Reagan discussing
how to respond to protesters fifty Michael.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Most people told you for days in advance that if
the university sought to go ahead with that construction, they
were going to physically destroy the university. Why did you negotiate?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Many times? Negotiate what is to negotiate?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
What is?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
University is a public institution, that's right, But the university
its own community and for the community of Berkeley that
live around.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
All of it began the first time.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Some of you, who know better and are old enough
to know better, let young people think that they had
the right to choose the laws they would obey as
long as they were doing it in the name of
social protesting. I'm sick and tired of the argument about
whether some effort to enforce law and order he is
going to escalate anything at all. Plain truth of the
matter is this has to stop, and it has to stop.
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Like the DAVI yesterday, I would like to propose that
the issue is that on the campus is you who
are adults, You who are entrusted with those young people
and their guidance, have a responsibility to make it plain
to them from the very beginning that you yourselves do
not tolerate the kind of conduct that has led to
the burning of Wheeler Hall, that has led the two
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murders on the campus at UCLA. Have you've created an
atmosphere on the campus where no one wants to listen.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You are alive.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That is fantastic. Goes on for four minutes. We may
play more of it later.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
This needs to end, and it needs to end the
day before yesterday. That's the clip I want. I love that.
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Why is nobody will you quit blowing your pipe smoke
in my face, Birdie mcbeard gin, Why is nobody in
a position of power speaking like that at all?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Really?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Why is that accommodation of agreement with them, the kids,
or sympathetic sympathy to their far left views?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And what I was describing yesterday.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
The relationship between university and student is completely different now.
And you've talked about this, how they're all competing to
build the most luxurious dorms that are like a luxury resort.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They are.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
The kids are now paying customers at a luxury learning resort,
high dollars financed frequently by government loans, which are then forgiven.
It's a giant, sloshing back and forth pool of money.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They make the most inaccurate word in your term luxury
learning resort is learning.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It's luxury and it's a resort. The learning part it's questionable. Yeah,
it's like the difference in how you're going to be treated.
If you, like you get a little drunken out of
hand at you know, your local motel six, there's going
to call the cops. But if you're drunken disorderly, it's
some sort of fifteen hundred dollars a night, you know,
four seasons or whatever the ritz bilg Le escort you
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back to your room. Well, they want your money, is
why they're not cracking down.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
On the kids.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
One of the power structure has been completely inverted.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
One of the things I really liked that Ronald Reagan
said there and I watched that video and it's interesting.
He had the advantage of looking like he was sixty
when he was forty.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I mean, he just he going way back in his
early days.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He just had that look of a serious grown up
his whole life. Some people are like that, I've looked
like a child. You can ignore my whole life sort
of whatever. And you know, we are all spressed different talents.
But him saying that the problem is that you gave
these students the idea.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You let them believe.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That they can pick and choose which laws they want
to follow.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And that is exactly it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
When I so many clips that I heard yesterday of
some young woman in a Hamas scarf saying you have
not met our demands, and the fact that she has
been led to believe that she can even stand there
and claim she has demands, it means we're so off
the reims.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What do you mean demand you don't get your demands?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
They're so cute, Yeah, but doesn't that none of these
words mean anything.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You're a college student, here, go to class. You don't
get to demand something.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
This has to stop, and it has to stop, like
the day before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes again. Why does everything have to have music going
behind it? TikTok world? Man?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah all right, ah so yeah, if you don't like
this college, go elsewhere. Now, mover, you'll be arrested. It
is as simple as that. And I know that these
militant organizations want a confrontation, and so at this point
it's extremely difficult to know exactly what to do because
of the difficulty in clearing a building, although I'm sure
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they will at some point. What was my Oh, that's
why you have to end it early. I'm sorry I
lost the point I was trying to make. I was
gonna circle back to it. Well, it doesn't matter. I mean,
we all understand what's going on. Oh that you know,
these wild the militant groups desperately want confrontation and violence
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in great videos so they can send it around and
whip people up and claim that you're the real aggressor.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You've got to do that early.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You've got to give them what they want in as
you know, matter of fact way as you can. It's
like the cops I saw in Texas clearing the place
out stonefaced, not going to excessive violence or anything like that,
not getting baited by the screeching nineteen year old social
majors just going about their business.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
We're forcing the law. What needs to be talked more about?
And this came up yesterday. You had the guy who
was like sympathetic to their protest, beyond sympathetic, in agreement
with their protesting, but older guy trying to give them
the lecture of, look, if you want to actually accomplish things,
you've got to stop with this violent rhetoric. We need
to talk about you know, what is going to accomplish
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the goals we want to And then they all kind
of politely a clap, took the bullhorn and started chanting
from the for to the sea, and I mentioned Hillary
Clinton years ago when there are protesters not even remember
what the issue was at the time. And she said,
that's fantastic, But what is your plan? What is the
legislation you want to pass? That's that's what we need
to emphasize more with with really everybody, because needs to
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become more of our in our blood stream that when
you want to change things, we have a process. That's
that's what's amazing about the way our country is built.
There's a process starting at your city council or county
commissioner or whatever, all the way up through to uh
uh for all the knocking Barack Obama being a community organizer,
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that's the way you do it. You organize a community
over an issue, you start to try to work on policy,
you try to get things changed that way. This I'm
gonna be I'm gonna yell the loudest and occupy a
building until you capitulate is not the process.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Stop and it has to stop like the day before yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yes, sir, mister governor, as long as I'm unleashing unpalatable metaphors.
I mean, the demonstration thing is so masturbatory in that
you're pleasuring yourself, which I.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like, but having no effect me disappointing. Oh and the
uh the uh.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well again it's it's it's pleasurable, but you're not accomplishing it. Now,
I getting back to the point of that that Reagan made, Actually,
that you've sent the message to these kids that they
can choose which laws they follow on which they break,
as long as they're breaking them in the name of
social justice or whatever term he used. That is precisely
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the message that they've been receiving from the Democratic Party.
Witnessed George Floyd riots and burning effing murders friends murders
took place, and the federal government barely condemned it. The
media didn't condemn it, academia didn't condemn condemn it, and the.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Entertainment world didn't condemn it.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Given the fact that that's like all young people hear
from anyway, they their entire worldview as nineteen year old
social majors has been formed with the idea that you
can do anything you want as long as it repped.
It's the political left.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And it's okay.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, that would be pretty encouraging. That would be pretty encouraging.
What are your thoughts? We got Katie's headlines on headlines
on the way. Our text line is four one, five
nine five kftc.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Rarely do Katie's headlines contain breaking news, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Katie Green, go ahead, all right? From the New York Times.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Judge finds Trump nine thousand dollars for violating gag order
in hush money trial.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So nine I've seen different headlines. I've seen.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Nine violations, eight violations and one violation which one of
those headlines is correct. Each violation was one thousand dollars fine,
So that would seem to me a nine thousand dollars fine.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Let me see do the math. Nine violations according to that.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But so can you get a billionaire to shut up
by finding him one thousand dollars per uh?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Trumpian utterance.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
No, certainly not to be threatened an escalation of fines
or anything like that that might be significant.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
From CNN, Columbia direct students, faculty, and staff to vacate
universities journalism school buildings citing safety concerns.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
The Biden administrations just put out their strongest statement yet
against the protesters taken over the building and saying we'll
get it for you because it just came out, but
saying that they do not condone terms like intovada into
fada and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So we'll see how this is handled by the media.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
NBC News US pushes for Gaza ceasefire, seeing narrow window
for a deal before Israel launches RAFA assault.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
You know who doesn't want a piece of hamas.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
From bank rate by or rent.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Study shows renting is more affordable in the fifty largest metros.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
God, I watched a news story on that on the
Evening News last night. That was the dumbest story I've
ever seen. I was watching Evening News and thinking, do
they make this for second graders or people who can't read?
I mean, this is the dumbest, most dumbed down story
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So I didn't learn anything, is my point. From ABC News.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Two giant pandas from China to arrive at San Diego
Zoo under conservation partnership.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, they call them giant pandas, but they're like six
feet tall.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Couldn't you tell me giant? I want a fifty foot
panda exactly. I just watched the King Kong movie. That's giant.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Right from Newsweek warning as first American dolphin diagnosed with.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Bird fel Oh my god, the birds gave it to
the cows, who gave it to the dolphins.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's hard to picture that party.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I've got to admit I heard that story on ABC
News and I was a little bit concerned. Now you
have the bird kingdom, mammals and aquatic mammals have all
acquired this disease. Maybe it's sputters out, but it's a
little troubling.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Should I throw out my dolphin milk or is it's
still okay to drink?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'll drink it up.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
And finally the Babylon Bee aw sad college students so
caught up harassing Jews, he forgot about his turn paper
on inclusion.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
That's pretty good. God, we got we got audio will
play of this Jewish kid trying to get to class
and arguing the protesters blocking his way, saying, look, I just.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Want to go to class. I have class in ten minutes.
I just want to go to class. And they wouldn't
let him go to class?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Is not that amazing?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Armstrong and getdy
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Excuse me, that's a bad shat. Oh boy, that's a
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from Studio C season. You're a dimly lit room deeper
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
The Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. In today we're under
the tutelage of our general manager, Columbia University.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Royal dividing protests, violence, buildings, occupied windows broken.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I was just listening to NPR.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
They called them anti war protests, all right, it's supposed
to want to be incredibly general about it. You could
call it anti war protests, or pro terrorists protests, or
anti Israel protests, or even more specific, anti Jews.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Being alive protests. NPR is a joke, a.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Completely unfunny, cruel joke. May they burn in the deepest,
darkest pits of hell.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't remember who I was quoting yesterday, who was
screaming where are the adults? But man, I woke up
today feeling embarrassed as an adult for adults.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Doesn't mean we're all like this, but.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm just embarrassed on behalf of adulthood that Columbia told
these protesters you have until two pm then you need
to go. You have to go, no two ways about it.
We mean it this time. Then two pm came and went.
They didn't do a single thing, and overnight the students
broke into a building and occupied it. That's embarrassing. I'm
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embarrassed as an adult.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You told your kid one more cookie, you eat one
more cookie, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You've never seen me be so angry, And then they
ended up eating the entire plate, right, and you just
sit there sputtering.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
How do people Well, the answer to my question is academia, Dude,
I was gonna say, how do people reach the point
in their lives that a lot of these folks are
at and without having absorbed that very simple life lesson. Well,
it's because they live in the pretend, make believe world
of academia. They cause play all day long. They just
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in their own nutty little ivory tower universe and convince
each other that they're very important because they can show
what papers they've been awarded by various phony universities, the
whole there's a giant clown show.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's a giant clown show. I was hearing your reporting
yesterday that Columbius cam in the tents. They had all
these tools, and I thought, what are they doing with
the tools?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Breaking into the building tonight, That's what they did with
the tools. So they used the tools to break into
They've occupied the same building that the protesters occupied in
nineteen sixty eight. Isn't that exciting? And doesn't that make
you an exciting person with your mask on?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
More cosplay, I mean literally wearing costumes terrorist costumes and
running around like their little Chai guaveras.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's just so sickening.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh, I think a lot of them on his cosplay,
some of them and is not They are just flat
out Hamas people.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, right, the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Longer I live, the more I come to realize a
lot of absolutely dedicated, ready to kill you or die
for the cause, militants have no idea what they're talking about.
How about I'd always assumed that they were like super
died and well understood all of it, the historical contact,
and it made the decision that blah blah blah, no, no,
they're idiots, right, Yeah, they've got a child's understanding of
(04:00):
what they're screaming about. That is interesting to find that out.
And if they kill you, you're just his dad. Isn't that something?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's like after nine to eleven because we had
been a sleep for several decades as a country and
didn't think bad things in the world could happen to
us anymore. But remember after nine eleven is all but
trying to understand them. What have we done to make
them so mad? And it turned out their reasons were stupid,
just like these college kids reasons are stupid, and this weird,
(04:30):
not accurate, some of it completely made up view of
history that they were acting on behalf of and we're
willing to kill for it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
And yeah, we're trying to establish a fundamentalist worldwide Islamic
caliphate is the thing now?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It must be, Yes, it must be something we can do.
If we're nice there, they'll be nice to us. How
can you look at yourself in the mirrors?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Seriously, though, if you say everybody's got to be out
by two pm. Two pm, this is a solid deadline,
no more negotiations, and then you let the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Time come and go, and then you let them double
down by taking over one of your buildings. How do
you get up in the morning and get dressed and
look at yourself in the mirror?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Honestly, I would be so embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
This is definitely a moment of reckoning for a lot
of these administrators. They're recognizing the monster they've created and
whether they well how they deal with it is going
to be interesting to watch, but the lesson will soon
be forgotten again.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So well the I don't know if you saw what
was going on in the middle of the afternoon, but
a hell of a lot of teachers in orange vests.
Yellow vests. Yeah, we're linking arms around the tents to
show you'd have to you have to go through us.
The teachers fire them all, every one of them. That
seems like the clear reason. First of all, you just
start expelling students left and right. We're expelling you all.
(05:48):
You no longer exist here, and now you're on the
property illegally because you have no right to be here
because you're not a student. It's not that hard. What
do they think the blowback would be if you want
to reapply, eh, correct in six months or next semester.
We're willing to chat maybe, but as of now you're trespassing.
You have five minutes. Five But uh, TikTok, ticktok. But
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I'm asking this question, honestly, what is the what is
the blowback that they're concerned.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
About escalation in general? I actually read a really interesting
piece by a prominent thinker talking about how the militants
are desperate for escalation. It's like that putting your opponent
in a decision dilemma thing, or you wag your finger
right in front of their face so they make a
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violent act so you can portray them as the oppressor.
They're desperate for Columbia to start arresting people and cracking
heads and that sort of thing. That's the irony of this.
And so this thinker I was reading suggested more of
a siege. You put up a fence around them, with
carefully controlled entrance into egress if you will, this way
to the egress. And it's an old PT. Barnum reference anyway,
(06:58):
if you if you caught it, you have my anyway
back to my screen. So control entrance and leaving to
the area, and as soon as anybody leaves, bar them
from coming back. And they've got to leave eventually to
get food and and and go to the toilet or
what have you, and just let it peter out. But
that's not going to work now because they've taken over
a building. So you would have to actually like lay
(07:21):
siege to a building and starve them out over the
course of weeks, which could be I don't know what
that could be.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's certainly not good pr I don't I don't know this.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
This could well be the dawn of an awful new
age in America, and I shouldn't be laughing about it.
On the other hand, our university system is so corrupt,
so fake.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It doesn't educate anybody.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It's it's a money grubbing scheme between government and academia.
It's full of the worst sort of neo Marxism and
race based identity politics. It's just it's it's a it's
a disease. I've said, it's a sore on the the
skin of America. So the fact that it's now like
eating itself, I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Be that upset. Wow, a sore that eats itself. This
is disgusting. It is It's also a bit of a
mixed metaphor. But anyway back to.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You, Well, yeah, so they've taken over the one of
the buildings now, so it's going to be harder to
get them out of there now because now you've got
like a you know, an urban warfare inside a building
situation going on.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, well this might be for for with all due
respect to the repugnance of what's being expressed by the demonstrators,
and that that is a subject that I'm more than
willing to engage with. Seriously, I think this might be
just what the university system in America needed.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I hope it gets worse.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well it Uh, that's going to hit your wish So
that's yes, that's there.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But it is. It is rotted through and through, like
top to bottom in so many different ways.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The risk of repeating myself, I mean, like every way
you look at it, it's corrupt, right starting with the
very most basic core tenant of they're going there to
learn that stopped happening a long time ago, so nobody's
going and learning anything.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So right there, you could stop and say what are
we doing again?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, that would be a.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Good place to come to a halt when you're asked
the point that you realize nobody's learning anything, yeah, or
bothering to teach. It's it's kind of funny that you'd
even go that you'd go any.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Further in your analysis like that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I see your point, but what is being taught is,
from an ideological point of view, entirely monochromatic, chromatic, which
is anathema to what a university ought to be. Then again,
we can get into the money grubbing bit of it,
where the government and the loans and the loan forgiveness,
then they go to whatever, including unconstitutional measures they have
(10:00):
to keep the money flowing.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's a scheme, it's a con.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Let's start to show officially before we get in trouble
with the FCC and we have to lay siege to
this building.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
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Speaker 3 (10:10):
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Speaker 4 (10:18):
If they try to starve us out, I'm only good
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Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't miss a lot of them meets. All right,
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Speaker 4 (10:25):
Now, according to sec rules of regulations, leaping into action
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Speaker 5 (10:29):
From the river to the sea, you know, from the
river to the sea is if you don't, that's all right.
Most of the students channing it don't understand that they
are chanting genocidal comments. They want to wipe out all Jews,
and they want to destroy the state of Israel, and
they want to kill Jews and push them. See, they
are Hamas on college campuses when they chant that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So yesterday Joe Scarborough went to a nutso calling at
Hamas on college campuses, which is completely accurate, and then
he got a speaking of blowback, a lot of blowback,
apparently because they were falling all over to themselves apologizing
today plenty of college students who are very well educated
on all the issues, who just want and we agree
that Benjamin Netanya who has gone too far, and blah
(11:15):
blah blah, blah blah blah, which lasted for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
As I was taking an MSNBC. But then Joe Scarbourg
got all worked up again. By the end of it
was calling him all.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Terrorists again, which is speaking of amusing. They are a
bunch of terrorists, They are a bunch of white, privileged.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Elitist terrorists, pretend terrorists. Oh it's so, there are a
super bonus.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Now the university system is crumpling as it is it must,
and Joe Scarborough is losing his marbles.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This is the best week ever anyway.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
How does the mailbag look? Oh it's it's fine and dandy.
You'll enjoy it, guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
God dang it. Every day every day.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Our text line is four one five two nine five kft.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
See. So I get up today like normal.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Most the thing I'm most excited about the beginning the
day with, of course.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Is coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Start the coffee maker, come back for that coffee that
I desperately need Forgot to put the cup underneath the
machine again, Oh nook I do? Like twice a year
coffee went all over the counter and all over the floor.
So then not only you have a giant mess to
clean up, but you haven't had any caffeine yet, and
you're so angry.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And said, now you're running late. Yes, Morris stress. Oh boy,
here's your freedom up In courte of the day. During
the college protests of the nineteen sixties, Ronald Reagan, governor
of California at the time, and We have lots of
audio from him at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I've heard that. Wow, how different is that era from now?
But here's the quote from Reagan. Obey the prescribed rules
or pack up and get out, quint. Perhaps not elaborate,
no simple truth, it's not complex.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Obey the prescribed rules or pack up and get out.
There you go. That's how you deal with it. That's
how you deal with a lot of stuff in life.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Human beings are guilty of two things, thinking too little
and thinking too much. In this case, it's a thinking
too much, right.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I have comments on that, but we play some of
the rigging clips because I look forward to that.
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Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're discussing the recent Rand Corporation study that showed Merca's
in a lot of trouble in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And there's no example of a country ever bouncing back
from this. There sort of is kind of and that's
exactly what he's responding to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I can offer the following code. This is from an
article lection. Anyway, as institutions turned to cannibalizing each other,
there's a little Oh. The notable exception that proves the
rule of civilizational delusion is the Shao dynasty of ancient China.
It is an encouraging example since it shows a societal
failure arrested and reversed by an intellectual golden age called
(14:15):
one hundred schools of thought. Confucianism, Legalism, Taoism could only
come into being with this kind of epistemic opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, I'm familiar with that, but I think the biggest
difference would be China was so isolated at that point.
So we are, we are the wealthiest nation on earth,
and everybody's the wolves are going to be at our
door immediately. It's not like we can sit around and
figure out a way to rebuild our culture, right an
(14:44):
era of near instantaneous immigration and travel and informational flow
and that sort of thing, I would agree. And also,
you know, those various regenerations of China were generally preceded
by everything falling apart and then something new springing up,
some organizational structure. So you know, I mean, this land
mass will continue to be occupied by human beings that
(15:06):
will find some way to govern themselves or be governed.
But I don't think it'll be a lot like the
United States in one hundred years. Yeah, if you didn't
hear that, I mean it is interesting. The Pentagon commissioned
to report, like, how's the country doing recompeting against China
on the world stage, and the determination was that we're
headed south and may be unrecoverable, and a lot of
it having to do with how like selfish and decadent
(15:30):
we are, and how our politics are so polarized and
there's no civic unity, and the variety of things that
all sound completely true.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, it rang true, just when you hear the
totality of it, it's a little discouraging. Anyway, Moving along
to the correspondence, here's Tom and Sokel.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Here's a proposed solution to the campus protest problem. Mandatory
semester abroad in Gaza that would include one geography one
oh one students will learn about which river and which
sea they're actually chanting of it out. Two literature one
on one students will be taught new words to rhyme
that exclude hyde and genocide, see and free, and three
(16:10):
history one on one, students will learn that Israelis have
been indigenous to this region for one thousands of years.
They'll learn about the region of Palestine during in post
the Ottoman Empire, and they will also learn that the
Ottoman Empire had nothing to do with footrests.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's tom and so cal hilarious.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I thought there was also a reference to They'll read
the Book of Genesis.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Brent in the Bay Area, California says on Monday's broadcast,
you played clip of the student protest leader that lunatic
advocating killing Zionists. While that's a heart by itself, early
in his rant, he casually mentions how we already accept
the killing of fascists, racist Nazis, et cetera. When did
we as a society decide that murdering anyone because of
their beliefs is okay? The scary part is that he's
not an isolated case, but most of these university protesters
(16:54):
share the same views. Scary when we live in a
world where all some group needs to do is put
a certain label on you, and then other extreme elements
of that group might kill you because they think it's
justified and responsible. Disagree with me. You're a fascist. You're
a fascist. It's my responsibility to silence you. Crazy times,
silence means kill U.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, we ought to play some more clips of that kid,
one of the leaders of the Columbia protests, because I
learned more about his background yesterday, which really explains how
we got this moment. Pretty much. We got so much
good stuff today. The world being on fire gives you
a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Armstrong and Geddy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
A smoke screen. Bureaucracy is a prison, and the students
refuse to.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Train in the blood of Palestinians.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Today is day two hundred and five of genocide in Gaza.
We must take action to end the true state of
emergency Columbia's complicity in genocide.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, overnight's the students in Colombia who were ordered
to be gone by two pm yesterday than just stayed
there and nobody did anything about it. Broke into a
building and took it over last night, and now they're
bellowing things like this must as been what it felt
like to be my dad when he was about thirty
in the late sixties listening to this none, Why doesn't somebody.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Tell these young people to just shut up. No, no, no,
shut up. That's what needs been more shut up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
The uh, the gross oversimplification of every issue, the childlike
divest Now, I was just reading an analysis of if
every university in America divested in any company dealing with Israel,
nobody would even notice. There's just not enough money at all,
and there are trillions and trillions of dollars waiting to
(18:39):
buy those shares in companies that do business with Israel.
It would make zero material difference to anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Not to mention that these universities take all kinds of
money from some abhorrent countries that oh yeah, other abhorrent
things around the world that I'm they should hate if
they don't hate, But they don't say anything about.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That billions of dollars from China and Qatar most well, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm sorry. Hotter.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
So overnight or yesterday and overnight anti Israel protesters that
Columbia took over a building after the school began suspending
students for refusing to disperse. Dozens of Columbia students occupied
Hamilton Hall, barricaded the entrances, claiming the area as their own. Well,
I'll have to look into property law. I didn't actually
(19:25):
go to law school, but I don't think he won't it.
Footage emerged on social media protesters smashing windows and barricading
themselves inside the building, So.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
At that point they've committed a crime.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So there's been a certain argument about the NYPD was
waiting yesterday right off campus, ready to go in, assuming
that they would be asked to go in at two
o'clock when the students didn't leave. But they didn't go
in because it's private property. The NYPD is saying, we
can't go on too private property unless there's a crime
being committed.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's a crime being committed.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Obviously, if some you know, a husband is beating his wife,
the police can come in even if it private property.
But there was not specifically a crime being committed. But
now that they've broken into a building and are smashing windows,
that's a crime. So why can't NYPD just show up
and on their own start.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Taking people out.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hmm. I think they're working with Columbia to figure out
what to do and how to do it, which I
think is appropriate. I don't I see no need for
the NYPD to start making the decisions on this, honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But something's got to be done. You know, pro lawlessness.
Your pro lawlessness is where you are, the question of
what to do.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
When it was just a tent camp and and angry
chicks bellowing inanities at each other, and it was funny.
I and this is not a sexist thing. I know
many capable women who I think would be great presidents,
leaders of industry, and leaders of organizations. I hold dear
that sort of thing. But I watched several newses last night,
(20:53):
as I'd like to say, and and I rewound a
couple of them as they went campus to campus to
camp campus, showing the chaos. And it was remarkable to
me that the crowds of angry people ranged from sixty
seventy percent female to ninety percent female. Now, I get
(21:15):
that there's an imbalance on college campuses already, but the
angry militant students, I think, on average worse seventy five
to eighty percent female.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. I live in a college town.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It looks like that way already, just looking watching people
walk across the street. So yeah, there's a lot of
a lot of girls at colleges. Was like, I say, oh,
so at a number of these places where they have
been arresting people. The majority of the people they've arrested
weren't college students. They aren't from there, right right, which
(21:45):
and we could certainly get into the there's a new
entity called the Escalate Network that's been established where radical
pro Palestin Indian students can find reports, strategies, tactics and
other resources to help them broaden their horizons and paralyze
all of civil societ and the global economy. And they're
being financed by the Students for Justice in Palestine, the
SJP and the WOL. I can't remember what that stands for,
(22:08):
but it's like a global militant organization. So yeah, I
mean there are people and money flooding onto college campuses
to pour gasoline on what ought to be a small
and pathetic fire of misguided nineteen year old social majors. Well,
(22:29):
you're not wanting to call in the NYPD, I suppose
is because it's reached this point.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It would be quite the quite the dust up to
do that. You got to, which is what they desperately want.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Militants.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You gotta snuff these things out early before they get
to this point when it's easy too. And that's where
they've done that on some campuses across the country. First
two tenths go up, No, no, no, you can't put
tents there, and they just take them down and haul
off the kids and say you're suspended.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then that's it, and it doesn't get a foothold.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But if you let it grow like Columbia has and
you got a then you're reaching a point where okay,
so are we going to have this giant makes the
history books and people are watching videos of this forty
years from now sort of mayhem or how are we
going to handle this?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's almost as if a stitch in time saves seven
to eleven stitches, you know what I mean. You can't
let this stuff get out of hand. You've got to
be decisive speaking, which this is so great. This is
Ronald Reagan in I believe, well in the sixties. We'll
just say that, responding to unrest on the campuses of
California when he was the governor, And just a quick aside,
(23:35):
I saw the video and we'll play you part of
the audio. But the academics who are sitting there arguing
with him, then no, we can't do what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It would be wrong. Are just such cliches.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of the academics of the era, with their pipes and
their beards and their elbow patch jackets and everything there.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They're types in there beards. I mean, it's gonna you
discuss me with your pipe and your beard. You're bearded piping.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's just as straight out of Central casting, as they say,
is kind of funny, isn't aside? But here's Reagan discussing
how to respond to protesters fifty Michael.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Most people told you for days in advance that if
the university sought to go ahead with that construction, they
were going to physically destroy the university. Why did you negotiate?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Many times? Negotiate what is to negotiate?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
What is?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
University is a public institution, that's right, But the university
its own community and for the community of Berkeley that
live around.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
All of it began the first time.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Some of you, who know better and are old enough
to know better, let young people think that they had
the right to choose the laws they would obey as
long as they were doing it in the name of
social protesting. I'm sick and tired of the argument about
whether some effort to enforce law and order he is
going to escalate anything at all. Plain truth of the
matter is this has to stop, and it has to stop.
(24:59):
Like the DAVI yesterday, I would like to propose that
the issue is that on the campus is you who
are adults, You who are entrusted with those young people
and their guidance, have a responsibility to make it plain
to them from the very beginning that you yourselves do
not tolerate the kind of conduct that has led to
the burning of Wheeler Hall, that has led the two
(25:20):
murders on the campus at UCLA. Have you've created an
atmosphere on the campus where no one wants to listen.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You are alive.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That is fantastic. Goes on for four minutes. We may
play more of it later.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
This needs to end, and it needs to end the
day before yesterday. That's the clip I want. I love that.
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Why is nobody will you quit blowing your pipe smoke
in my face, Birdie mcbeard gin, Why is nobody in
a position of power speaking like that at all?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Really?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Why is that accommodation of agreement with them, the kids,
or sympathetic sympathy to their far left views?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And what I was describing yesterday.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
The relationship between university and student is completely different now.
And you've talked about this, how they're all competing to
build the most luxurious dorms that are like a luxury resort.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They are.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
The kids are now paying customers at a luxury learning resort,
high dollars financed frequently by government loans, which are then forgiven.
It's a giant, sloshing back and forth pool of money.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They make the most inaccurate word in your term luxury
learning resort is learning.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It's luxury and it's a resort. The learning part it's questionable. Yeah,
it's like the difference in how you're going to be treated.
If you, like you get a little drunken out of
hand at you know, your local motel six, there's going
to call the cops. But if you're drunken disorderly, it's
some sort of fifteen hundred dollars a night, you know,
four seasons or whatever the ritz bilg Le escort you
(27:00):
back to your room. Well, they want your money, is
why they're not cracking down.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
On the kids.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
One of the power structure has been completely inverted.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
One of the things I really liked that Ronald Reagan
said there and I watched that video and it's interesting.
He had the advantage of looking like he was sixty
when he was forty.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I mean, he just he going way back in his
early days.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He just had that look of a serious grown up
his whole life. Some people are like that, I've looked
like a child. You can ignore my whole life sort
of whatever. And you know, we are all spressed different talents.
But him saying that the problem is that you gave
these students the idea.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You let them believe.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That they can pick and choose which laws they want
to follow.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And that is exactly it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
When I so many clips that I heard yesterday of
some young woman in a Hamas scarf saying you have
not met our demands, and the fact that she has
been led to believe that she can even stand there
and claim she has demands, it means we're so off
the reims.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What do you mean demand you don't get your demands?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
They're so cute, Yeah, but doesn't that none of these
words mean anything.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You're a college student, here, go to class. You don't
get to demand something.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
This has to stop, and it has to stop, like
the day before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes again. Why does everything have to have music going
behind it? TikTok world? Man?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah all right, ah so yeah, if you don't like
this college, go elsewhere. Now, mover, you'll be arrested. It
is as simple as that. And I know that these
militant organizations want a confrontation, and so at this point
it's extremely difficult to know exactly what to do because
of the difficulty in clearing a building, although I'm sure
(28:46):
they will at some point. What was my Oh, that's
why you have to end it early. I'm sorry I
lost the point I was trying to make. I was
gonna circle back to it. Well, it doesn't matter. I mean,
we all understand what's going on. Oh that you know,
these wild the militant groups desperately want confrontation and violence
(29:06):
in great videos so they can send it around and
whip people up and claim that you're the real aggressor.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You've got to do that early.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You've got to give them what they want in as
you know, matter of fact way as you can. It's
like the cops I saw in Texas clearing the place
out stonefaced, not going to excessive violence or anything like that,
not getting baited by the screeching nineteen year old social
majors just going about their business.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
We're forcing the law. What needs to be talked more about?
And this came up yesterday. You had the guy who
was like sympathetic to their protest, beyond sympathetic, in agreement
with their protesting, but older guy trying to give them
the lecture of, look, if you want to actually accomplish things,
you've got to stop with this violent rhetoric. We need
to talk about you know, what is going to accomplish
(29:55):
the goals we want to And then they all kind
of politely a clap, took the bullhorn and started chanting
from the for to the sea, and I mentioned Hillary
Clinton years ago when there are protesters not even remember
what the issue was at the time. And she said,
that's fantastic, But what is your plan? What is the
legislation you want to pass? That's that's what we need
to emphasize more with with really everybody, because needs to
(30:15):
become more of our in our blood stream that when
you want to change things, we have a process. That's
that's what's amazing about the way our country is built.
There's a process starting at your city council or county
commissioner or whatever, all the way up through to uh
uh for all the knocking Barack Obama being a community organizer,
(30:36):
that's the way you do it. You organize a community
over an issue, you start to try to work on policy,
you try to get things changed that way. This I'm
gonna be I'm gonna yell the loudest and occupy a
building until you capitulate is not the process.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Stop and it has to stop like the day before yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yes, sir, mister governor, as long as I'm unleashing unpalatable metaphors.
I mean, the demonstration thing is so masturbatory in that
you're pleasuring yourself, which I.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like, but having no effect me disappointing. Oh and the
uh the uh.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well again it's it's it's pleasurable, but you're not accomplishing it. Now,
I getting back to the point of that that Reagan made, Actually,
that you've sent the message to these kids that they
can choose which laws they follow on which they break,
as long as they're breaking them in the name of
social justice or whatever term he used. That is precisely
(31:29):
the message that they've been receiving from the Democratic Party.
Witnessed George Floyd riots and burning effing murders friends murders
took place, and the federal government barely condemned it. The
media didn't condemn it, academia didn't condemn condemn it, and the.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Entertainment world didn't condemn it.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Given the fact that that's like all young people hear
from anyway, they their entire worldview as nineteen year old
social majors has been formed with the idea that you
can do anything you want as long as it repped.
It's the political left.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And it's okay.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, that would be pretty encouraging. That would be pretty encouraging.
What are your thoughts? We got Katie's headlines on headlines
on the way. Our text line is four one, five
nine five kftc.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Rarely do Katie's headlines contain breaking news, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Katie Green, go ahead, all right? From the New York Times.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Judge finds Trump nine thousand dollars for violating gag order
in hush money trial.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So nine I've seen different headlines. I've seen.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Nine violations, eight violations and one violation which one of
those headlines is correct. Each violation was one thousand dollars fine,
So that would seem to me a nine thousand dollars fine.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Let me see do the math. Nine violations according to that.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But so can you get a billionaire to shut up
by finding him one thousand dollars per uh?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Trumpian utterance.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
No, certainly not to be threatened an escalation of fines
or anything like that that might be significant.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
From CNN, Columbia direct students, faculty, and staff to vacate
universities journalism school buildings citing safety concerns.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
The Biden administrations just put out their strongest statement yet
against the protesters taken over the building and saying we'll
get it for you because it just came out, but
saying that they do not condone terms like intovada into
fada and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So we'll see how this is handled by the media.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
NBC News US pushes for Gaza ceasefire, seeing narrow window
for a deal before Israel launches RAFA assault.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
You know who doesn't want a piece of hamas.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
From bank rate by or rent.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Study shows renting is more affordable in the fifty largest metros.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
God, I watched a news story on that on the
Evening News last night. That was the dumbest story I've
ever seen. I was watching Evening News and thinking, do
they make this for second graders or people who can't read?
I mean, this is the dumbest, most dumbed down story
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So I didn't learn anything, is my point. From ABC News.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Two giant pandas from China to arrive at San Diego
Zoo under conservation partnership.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, they call them giant pandas, but they're like six
feet tall.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Couldn't you tell me giant? I want a fifty foot
panda exactly. I just watched the King Kong movie. That's giant.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Right from Newsweek warning as first American dolphin diagnosed with.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Bird fel Oh my god, the birds gave it to
the cows, who gave it to the dolphins.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's hard to picture that party.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I've got to admit I heard that story on ABC
News and I was a little bit concerned. Now you
have the bird kingdom, mammals and aquatic mammals have all
acquired this disease. Maybe it's sputters out, but it's a
little troubling.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Should I throw out my dolphin milk or is it's
still okay to drink?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'll drink it up.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
And finally the Babylon Bee aw sad college students so
caught up harassing Jews, he forgot about his turn paper
on inclusion.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
That's pretty good. God, we got we got audio will
play of this Jewish kid trying to get to class
and arguing the protesters blocking his way, saying, look, I just.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Want to go to class. I have class in ten minutes.
I just want to go to class. And they wouldn't
let him go to class?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Is not that amazing?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Armstrong and getdy
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