April 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- More on the nationwide campus protests...
- CA's high speed rail...
- South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem story about killing a dog...
- The high price resort that produced a prominent, anti-Israel voice.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Show, you're a white press that we.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Don't like white people. Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If you couldn't understand all the hubbub there, you had
somebody pushing back, what about hamas, hamas hiding behind innocent people,
et cetera, et cetera. The pro Palestine protester if you
want to call them that, as opposed to pro terrorist
or whatever. You're just a white person and we don't
like white people, Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
And then starts chanting a slogan that's a good display.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, you go. Here's a little more from our college
campuses does this.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
We're arrested Thursday at Emory University in Atlanta, including Martin Berg,
the third year law students was expected to graduate in
three weeks. Says their protest was peaceful until the police
showed up.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nothing was disrupted, and anyone saying that campus was disrupted
doesn't understand what a campus is. A campus is a
place for open expression and exchange of ideas, and that's
exactly what folks were doing out there as it was
it of that university. I don't know, but a lot
of the universities I've seen on television. That's not what
is happening.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You're not allowed to camp on the quad. You're camping
on the quad. Get out, nice try lawyer boy, you're
disrupting business. Came across this over the weekend, somebody explaining
how this sort of thing happens. Protests, like many forms
of group behavior, can be contagious. One way to understand
how protest movements spread, as this is spreading across the
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country like wildfire, is the ovation model, which I'd never
heard of before. A political science professor at UC Berkeley
came up with this years ago, who studies how protest
movements can affect politics, which would be an interesting thing
to study. In a theater audience, if some people in
the front stand up, then other people start to stand up,
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and it's a cascade through the auditorium. And he said,
that's what's happening with protesters. It's the ovation model. So
Columbia stood up, and then the other people around who
are kind of sympathetic to the idea of I guess
this was a pretty good play. I mean, I've had
that happen many times where I've thought, are we stand?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean it was an all right concert? I mean, okay,
I guess we're standing right right.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And then because once people start to stand, the act
of sitting and applauding becomes an expression of disapproval in
a way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right, You're exactly right. That's exactly what it happens with
the ovation things. So everybody stands up for this, it
is an okay performance. But if I stay sitting, I'm shouting.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I thought it sucked.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
No, you're just saying I don't think standing is justified.
I don't think is standing? Oh is justified? You have
become an activist.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right, that's more interesting to me than the first part. Yeah,
that is exactly what happens. If you don't go along
with it, you're seen as against. Yeah, okay. So then
this came out from whichever university over the weekend. You
got this guy Norman Finkelstein, who has given a speech
to the protesters and explaining to them how you should
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go about things if you actually want to accomplish your goals.
And it's important to know that the person that you're
gonna hear at the end, it's worth listening to this
whole thing what he says to them, and then the
reaction the person you're gonna hear at the end, after
he hands over the mic has got the Hamas mask
around their face when they take when they take over,
(03:36):
Here's how it went.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
One has to exercise, not in the conservative sense, but
in a radical sense. One has to exercise in a
moment like this, if for no other reason, then for
the people of Gaza, one has to exercise the maximum responsibility,
maximum response ability, to get out of one's navel, to
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pull out of one's ego, and to always keep in
mind the question what are we trying to accomplish at
this particular moment.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's my views from the river to that.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
My understanding was he was explaining to them why they
shouldn't chant that, because that's calling for wiping out the
Jews and they should be more focused on protecting the
people of godzap blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And she says, yeah, a f you essentially, yeah, yeah,
he's giving a speech on how to protest. What do
you want to accomplish and what are you saying that
is going to accomplish those goals or just hurting your goals?
Get out of your navel, get away from your own ego,
say things, what are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And then he gets applied to place.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They played a laws thank you, old white straight male
thank you now hand the mic to the young radical
in the Hamas mask.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
From the River to the Seine, and everybody repeats it like, yeah,
if you were going to angry check Yeah. I thought
that was really something I was reminded of, I think
during the Trump campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But anyway, Hillary Clinton at one point when she was
getting all kinds of protesters and she said to them
on stage, and I don't even remember what their issue was,
her saying, what do you want to accomplish? What legislation?
Would you suggest that's how you accomplish things?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And she just got.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Killed for that by the radical young people. No, you
just want to shout crazy stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
New York Times has a pretty interesting article about the
growing rift between the different sides of this and the
Democratic Party and how it's really emerging as an issue
for them, because, as you pointed out many times you
had this bus, there are a coalition of nutty activists,
all sorts of different causes and points of view, and
they would never criticize each other because they are together
(06:09):
in this left coalition that is the Democratic Party, but
that's falling apart. I thought that was pretty interesting. New
York Times is calling that out. But I really liked
this account from David Marcus, who's an interesting guy. I
didn't really know about him. He's a tech you know, entrepreneury,
builds startups. He's a super smart guy, and he just
likes to comment on things. He said, I went to
(06:30):
UCLA this afternoon to talk to people peacefully. Few interesting
takeaways This is the protests. Obviously, One, most of them
openly say they support hamas a designated terrorist organization, could
stop there. But two, they say the ten to seven atrocities, rapes,
murders did not happen. The official line is even the
New York Times debunked that right, utterly fictional.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, I think this is a glimpse into where we're
all going to be the rest of our lives. I
hate call it fake news because then it gets attached
to Trump. But fake news I mean misinformation. I hate
to use that because it gets attached to Biden Fauci.
But news that is not accurate is what everybody looking
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for stuff to validate their thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Is going to take in and I don't know what
we're going to do about that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, crumble promptly. Anyway, he goes on. The other thing
you universally hear ten to seven was justified. It was
resistance point four. One hundred percent of the people we
spoke to had the exact same narrative and mo trying
to recenter the conversation to nineteen forty eight without knowing
any of the details when they were challenged, which is
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what I was going to say. In the way of
the Finkelstein clip. There the young angry woman just chanting
the slogans. That's usually all they have is a handful
of slogans and revolutionary you know, rationales, but no fact.
Moving along. Five, they have their own security and control
access to their encampment.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Six.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
We remained very calm, but they got really aggressive and angry,
which is not surprising. There's something about the feisty protester
that if you, in the calmest tone of voice, say
I'm a little confused on this point, they immediately get angry.
Let's see seven, When you approach people who are clearly
junior to others, handlers show up very quickly to take
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over zero point eight, since many of them are truly
ignorant about historical and president present facts. When they know
they're going to embarrass themselves, they all say, read our
five demands to divest, and now I'm going to stop
talking to you. So it was more organized and orchestrated
than I expected. Very sad to see so many young
people in a higher education setting being manipulated and brainwashed
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and totally devoid of critical thinking.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You need to go beyond they the news they take
in wherever they're getting at TikToker, Instagram or wherever they're
getting They don't believe October seventh is what it was.
Well okay, well obviously you would see this whole thing
completely different if if if what you think happened that
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day is different than what I know happened that day.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And it's difficult to go from there.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
YEA sure, Yeah, I mean that's starting point where that's
where the rubber meets the road of divergence. That's where
the fork in the road is. And uh, and I
don't know how we're going to deal with this going
forward on every issue. I really don't crumble. You might
be right. The media likes to mock the crowd that
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believes a whole bunch of the things that actually have
been debunked about the stolen election, Certain things with Venezuela
and voting machine stuff like that have been just that
didn't pan out.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
They weren't even they weren't even presented in court after
making you know, I won't get into that, but the
media likes to mock people that still believe that. But
you're given a pas to all these college students that
believe these atrocities didn't happen on October seventh. This is
a serious problem we're gonna have, and I don't know
what the way out is.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I don't either, honestly, I'm not optimistic, which is kind
of sickening. One thing about the New York Times article,
I mentioned one quote. Rather, let's see, so they're quoting
Representative Greg Kazar of Texas, how the Democrats are trying
to figure out where to be on this, and he
(10:32):
went to Texas to show solidarity with the demonstrators, and
he says, so often history ends up vindicating those who
call for peace early. He goes, but asked about instances
in which demonstrators around the country have used anti Semitic language.
Mister Kazar replied, those people suck. They're not part of
a peace movement. Anybody that's motivated by hatred, they're not peaceful.
(10:54):
And then one other democratic activist, oh is Jared Moscow.
It's Florida Democrat. He finally said, out loud, where's the quote?
There you go? Uh. Some on the left who rightfully
criticized anti Semitic chants from quote white Aryan looking men
with tiki torches ray in Charlottesville in twenty seventeen seem
reluctant to denounce threatening speech when it came from liberal
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leading Americans. Quote, I don't see the same level of outrage.
It's politically inconvenient now, you know. I hate pacifists. I
hate them. You're stupid. If you're a pacifist, you're stupid.
I didn't used to feel that way, but.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I feel that way now. It doesn't make any sense
calls for peace.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Often the calls for peace and go unrecognized until blah
blah blah calls for peace. So Israel is supposed to
allow Hamas to continue to exist while the leaders of
Hamas continue to say there'll be many more October seventh, unless.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You think they don't mean it, unless you just think
that's a bargaining position.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But that's a ridiculous point of view.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, position is regularly letting the evil side get a
breather or win.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It makes no sense. It's an easy, comfortable place to be.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I don't think anybody sure hit anybody. It make me,
you know, it's very easy to to seem like a
good person. But it's regularly just intellectually Uh, well, this
is just stupid or intellectually dishonest because it doesn't needs
no solution.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You need to lead a peaceful protest against pacifism.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think we need to throw bricks at pacifists. Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That is irony, that's humorless parody. Exactly, it's bricks.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No bricks will be hurled. And uh and we got
to take a break.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
But as look into these headlines, and I don't understand
why the adults don't take over UNC students camped out
saying we will not be leaving. Okay, I guess that's
up to you will not be graduating either, goodbye, oh bye.
Penn encampment continues as protesters defy university orders, come out school.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Just kick them out of school. It's so easy to.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Take care of h No, the high dollar customers. And
they're not students, they're customers, and they're always right. That's
what the cowardly non teaching administrators believe.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, the governor of South Dakota is not going to
be the vice president because she shot her dog and
bragged about it. And you can Texas anytime. Four one
five four one five two nine five kftc.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Armstrong Hengetti.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
The high speed rail Link will connect Vegas with existing
train services in the eastern suburbs of Los Angeles. The
developer says it will take about two hours to go
each way.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The all new electric train will zip.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Along at one hundred and eighty six miles per hour.
This twelve billion dollar high speed system is expected to
create thirty five thousand jobs. The goal is to start
running trains by twenty twenty eight, when the Summer Olympics
return to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Man, that is going to be one drunk train ride
on the way to LA and then quiet and shame
faced on the way back. Like all flights are to
and from Las Vegas. I should say, interesting, and do
we have a timetable on this? I don't have the
written version in front of me. But unlike the fanciful,
idiotic and enormous ripoff slash, you know, government spending boondoggle
(14:25):
at the California bullet train, is I think this thing
will actually happen because thefit there's profit in it. Somebody
could inform mister Armstrong that were back on the air,
back on the air and have been for some time.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Welcome. I just walked back in the room. What is happening?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We were just talking about the train from La to
Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The high speed train and is so.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What it struck me on the CBS report last night
is they didn't mention that California has spent one.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hundred billion dollars on a high speed train. You know
already that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You're just going to ignore that and talk about this
great high speed train, which I'm sure will happen because
it makes sense and you can see it actually being
of use to people and people wanting to write it
as opposed.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
To the one that goes from Bakersfield to wherever Mercead well,
almost Mersad. I've got to get a cab into Mersad, California.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's ridiculous anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I can see tons of people use of that two
hour trip from Vegas to La back and forth, and
you don't have to get to the airport an hour
early and you know, get off plane everything, so it'll
be about the same amount of time. Yeah, I could
see that being hugely success. Came across this in the
New York Times over the weekend. I thought it was
some of the funniest fake news I've ever seen in
my life. From a researcher, I have a feeling you're
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going to push back against this. I don't actually know.
This woman says she's done the research. She's a historian
of science at the University of Pennsylvania. Confronting the conventional
wisdom about the importance of posture. She is re examining
all the data over the last century or so and
says the posture panic of the earlier twentieth century is
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not based in anything, and it's just fake news.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm curious, I mean, how bad can my posture be.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It kind of got started in like Victorian England and
then transferred to the United States, and it just kind
of became an elitist thing about sitting up straight and
standing up straight. But there's no like real data or
science around it at all about it really being important.
And it was just kind of became a like a
stratification culture class thing. But there's no there's no according
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to her, there's no real data about posture.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, indeed, I'm not going to push back. I'm just
curious you've misunderstood me. In your defense, I'm very complicated,
but yeah, I mean, intuitively, you think humans pretty much
sit the way we're supposed to sit. We walked the
way we're designed to walk. When we lie down, we
lie supposed to line up.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's kind of funny if you think back, think that
like some at some point caveman were just sitting up
and straight and standing up straight, and we will say.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well pass me, like of Antelope, put you please. Years And.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
I mean it was disturbing. I mean it was kind
of sociopathic. Just reading the account of it, I have
to ask, like what editor allowed that to be printed? One,
I can't imagine Donald Trump allowing Christy Nauman on the
ticket after showing that she murders puppies. I mean, we
remember the hell that Mitt Romney got for just putting
(17:37):
his dogs on the roof. Now Christy Nauman is taking
him out back and murdering puppies. I just don't think
that's a good vice presidential nominee.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, if you didn't follow the story for the week,
and you might be wondering, what the hell are they
talking about. So we'll just bring you up to speed
on that enough so that you have knowledge on that.
Do you want to tease that I missed the headlines
out of the CNN pole that just came out. The
headline that's getting all the attention is Trump's up by
six or seven or whatever it is. There's more interesting
stuff than that in there, So we'll get to that
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in a little bit, which factors into this.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So this Christy Nome woman.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Hot, female governor of South Dakota. And I mentioned hot
in this context because Trump's way more likely to pick
her if she's hot. You come on, you can tell
me I'm please look at his lawyers. Yeah, you're gonna
tell me I'm wrong about that. She is on the
short list in some people's eyes. I don't know if
I think that's true, but uh, she also had an
(18:33):
affair with Corey Lewandowski isn't didn't that right? That hasn't
seen the day? Oh yeah, and then the whole endorse
a legend. Hanson's from South Dakota, so he has inside
knowledge a legend.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh he's biased, You're biased.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Plus there's that whole weird like endorsing a Texas teeth
straightening practice thing. All right, she's doing endorse much wackiness
like a radio host, right well, literally murdering puppies. Okay,
So here's the deal on this, and I'll go with
the Washington Post version, although every version was similar. Democrats
(19:09):
political figures dog pile onto Trump VP hopeful after story
of animal killings. The outpouring of animal love from political
social media is all in response to South Dakota Governor
Christy Nome, who is believed to be run in the
running to be Donald Trump's running mate, as we said,
admitting in her forthcoming book that she killed a family
dog and goat in a gravel pit with a gun
(19:29):
on the same day, according to an excerpt of the
book obtained by the Guardian in advance of its publication
next month. And this is classic I want to be
president or vice president stuff. You put out a book,
I wouldn't say. Putting in the book that you shot
your dog is classic. Putting out a book is classic,
and then it gives you a reason to go on
(19:50):
all these different shows. And I think she was hoping
she was going to be the vice presidential running mate.
Nooma Farmer and ranchers said she shot and killed their
fourteen month old wire hair pointer Cricket because she was
untrainable and aggressive. Nom described how Cricket was over excited
on a hunt and wrote that she attacked another family's
chickens like a trained assassin. The governor also said that
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Cricket had tried to bite her during the incident. After killing,
speaking as a guy whose dog killed chickens, they don't
attack them like a trained assassin. They attacked them like
a dog. Well, I'm sure the hyperbole is necessary.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well I'm going to stand up for the governor here
in a second, so I'll save that. But after killing Cricket,
Nome wrote that she then decided to kill a family
goat that was nasty and mean, which loved to chase
Nome's children.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So there's outrage over this all across America, And find
you if you're outraged.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're outraged.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I saw a post on social media in which somebody
responded by saying, look, I'm a rancher in this.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
She says, this is normal country behavior. It's not. Well,
I'm here to tell you it is.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I've known so many people with rural lifestyles that have
shot their dogs or goats or whatever that was a
dangerous animal, or killing their animals or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I can't even tell you how often it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Whether you think it's a good idea or not, that's
completely up to you. But it is not like psychopathic
who could possibly do this this? Only it happens all
the time in rural areas. I'm just telling you it's
a common thing that happens. Well, and not to pile
on the poor dead dog. But it attacked a family
member too, didn't it? Or or I build somebody you
know that, I think, yeah, bit her, bit her? Yeah, yeah,
(21:25):
I do know that. When I like when I went
to the pound and got a dog. One time, they
did this test. This was in California years ago. I
don't know if they still do it, but they did
this test where they put the dog on its back
and if the dog acted a sort of way, it
went to the death chamber. If it acted a different way,
it could be adopted out. It was just a test
to see if this has a certain aggressive.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Nature or whatever. Maybe you hate that. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I realize the urban view of dogs is no matter
what your dog is like, you've got to dedicate the
rest of your life to figuring out how to live
with it, train its adjust its behavior, work around its
behavior or whatever. Fine or ignore it and tolerated. Yeah, fine,
do that if you want. I mean, go ahead, I
don't care. But that doesn't happen on like country farms,
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a lot where your dog is gonna murder your baby
goat or all your chickens, or eat your cat or
bite your kid or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They dispatch it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'll also say that I've had a dog situations where
this dog has got to go because it is it
is not a safe dog to be around, and you,
at least in California, you can't get rid of it.
There's no other way. I've taken a dog like that
to the shelter and.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
They wouldn't take it. Wow, I've had.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
This first lesson. It's adoptible. They just wouldn't take it. Yeah,
exactly because it wasn't adoptable.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah. Maybe if you said, I mean then I.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Thought that I should have said I found this dog
on a country road or something like that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Maybe they'd take it then, But I said it's aggressive. No,
we can't.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
We can't take an aggressive dog. Well what am I
supposed to do with it? I don't know, but we
can't take it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Okay, Oh wow, Yeah. I look, first of all, we
need to label this segment of the podcast Jack Condon's
Killing Puppies. Secondly, yeah, I think you have a real
urban divorced from realities, including death and the way animals
(23:20):
are of view of things versus a rural view.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
On the other hand, if I'm the editor Christy Nomes
campaign advisor, I'd be thinking, well, I would say to her, Look,
you've made so many courageous decisions in your life, let's
leave out shooting the dog. Well, I don't think this
is going to play.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I took in a fair amount of commentary over this
weekend when this broke, and not one person said what
you just said or I just said, Not one even
got close to it. It was unanimous. She's a psychopath.
That's the worst thing. I've ever heard so universally. So
I just want to say that I'm expecting tons of
hate over our comments. And then what you said is
(23:59):
one hundred percent right. How does she how does she
think that in any way whatsoever helps her?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
In her book?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You got to read the Room. The Room is America.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The Room is America, and it's mostly suburban and uh
and uh and no and urban?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Sure, And do you think you need to put that
in there to curry favor with anybody?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean, is there any positive to it?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
It's at best with some people a break even where
they might say I've had to do that too.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It's it's unfortunate, but you had to do it that best.
I mean, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
It's not going to get you any voice right all downside.
I just kenn if I'm Trump, That's what I take away.
Your judgment is awful. You're not gonna be on the ticket, right.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, the takeaway is not Sarah Palin Junior.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Is off the list.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
My takeaway wouldn't be she's a dog murderer. My takeaway
would be she's got no political compass. Yeah, I would agree,
she's not ready for the big time, not even close.
So anyway, thanks for coming Christy. But that's a nice teeth,
really nice. She in my mind, is in the works
out too much category. And there she works out too much.
(25:10):
She's too veiny and swoll. You overdid it. That's just
my opinion.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Wow, Wow, this is your hosogyny. This is sexisting a
woman for being fits.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Guys can do it to guys can do it too.
You go too far. Now you look weird. Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Sexist radio host condones killing dogs before bizarre attack.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
On fit women. That's my headline. Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So the new CNN poll has got Biden behind Trump
by the biggest margin in a major national poll. Thus
far might be an outlier. It's an outlier from previous
week's polls. But maybe it's a new trend. I don't
know anyway, it's what seven points, But so in the
numbers behind the numbers, I want to hit real quick
that I didn't see till now.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
This just came out today.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Biden's approval rating on the economy thirty four percent, on
inflation twenty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Can you get a boy?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Colin Jost Saturday night at the White House Correspondence dinner
had a number of jokes going both direction, and the
crowd would get really uncomfortable with these, but both direction
where he would say and yet it's tied. He would
say something about Trump that was just outlandish, that is true,
and he'd say, and yet the election is tied, and
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the crowd would get really uncomfortable. But then he'd say
something about you know, he'd say something about about Biden.
Also Biden is blah blah blah blah blah, and yet
the election is tied. It is interesting both ways that
you know, you can have the faults both of them
bring to the table, yet it's a tie.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
It's like watching a foot race between a ninety year
old and some dude who's weighed five hundred thousands.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And yet they're tied. Can't possibly win a race. He
he's five hundred pounds and yet his opponent is ninety.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
So Biden, because you would in a normal situation, no
flipping way, you get re elected with a thirty four
percent approval on the economy in twenty percent on inflation
when it's the number one issue.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean, it's just not even a question.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
A broad majory would I would say with those numbers
running the incumbent is political malpractice. You gotta yank him,
You got to get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
What percentage of Americans think the economic conditions are poor?
Seventy percent is the overall number, seventy You don't get
re elected with that number, You just don't.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yet they're times.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I thought that was Colin Joe's best work on that stuff,
which please no one, but it's damned interesting commentary. Sixty
one percent say Biden's presidency has thus far been a failure.
Sixty one percent of Americans say his presidency has been
a failure.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
One more time, and yet.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
They're tied. Oh boy, breaking news. Nikki Haley's admitted to
strangling her cat. I guess she's she's probably off the
list too.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh dang it, that'd say, yeah, yeah, oh no, is
that true?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, I guess it's true.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
DeSantis flushed a hamster down the toilet, so wow, he's
probably out.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Of the hole.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Read the Room put that in his official autobiography. I
know I can make tough decisions when the chips are down,
Like when my kids got tired of hamster, I said
we'll give it to me then, and down it went.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh boy, this is breaking news.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Carrie Lake, who's still hoping to be on the vice
president's list, just tweeted this out, a picture of her
holding your cute little pug.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Everyone with sush sheet withs wish sushi. Boy.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's a tongue twister. Everyone wish sushi. Okay, that's the
name of her pug. Everyone wish Sushi a happy birthday.
She's brought our family so much joy in tons of laughs.
Jeff and I are so busy on the campaign trail.
Sometimes I wish we could just bring our pug along,
clear loughly transparent effort to say, I don't shoot my dog,
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I hug it, and wish I brought it on the campaign.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh my god, how obvious can you?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's just so employingly desperate.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And that's gonna be what gets you on the ticket
or not.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Every time I think our politics is as stupid as
it could conceivably be, I'm impressed.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Anew the one other number I wanted to jam in
when they do the five way race, which they should
do more often, because it's not gonna be Trump versus
Biden in any state. There will always be Cornell West,
a Green Party candidate, maybe RFK junior whoever. But in
the five way race, Trump leaps out to a nine
point advantage over Biden. If you include all those other candidates,
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they're not all going to be on in all states.
But if you're wondering who it takes most from, it
would appear that they mostly take from Biden. We got
a lot more on the way. You can text any
stuff about the dog stuff four one five two nine
five KFTC.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
Behaviors can be modified. Look, we see that with the
current president's dogs. He had some you know, German shepherds
there that probably weren't so best suited to be around
a lot of people in the White House. And so
those those dogs weren't taken out back and shot. They
were taken in, put on a farm, or given to
somebody else who might be able to retrain them.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Right, there's lots of things you can do.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Now, you know, an old sick horse or or a
goat that's knocking your kids over, super mean Biden, your
kids is something different, puppies like. Look, Sarah McLaughlin is
out for Christy Nome right now, it's all I gotta
tell you, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's a fourteen month old dog. I suppose it's still
a puppy, but it's it's its full size and if
it's aggressive, so your options are it's always well, you
could you could train it, Okay, maybe you could dedicate
a tremendous amount of time to training it and alteringate behavior.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Maybe not, though it might might not be alterable behavior.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And then the whole Or give it to someone else,
someone else who wants to take an aggressive dog.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Right, you give it to somebody with a farm upstate
where it will be shot.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Right if it's aggressive or eats the cats or bites anybody. Yeah,
I don't know the uh uh uh oh. I just
saw Tim Scott had a pony as a kid that they.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
No, no, don't go there, do not go there.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
If you glue anything today, think of Tim Scott's pony.
That's all I'm saying. Somebody said, I heard it.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Explain that the governor included the dog story to show
she could make tough decisions, even if they're difficult and unpopular.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Use a better example.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Talk about the time as governor you dealt with college
protesters and decided to something or other or striking workers
or something. Don't go with the I shot my fourteen
month old dog in a gravel pit as you're.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Story to obey, right right, Yeah, And I'm grossly, you know,
oversimplifying this situation, but yeah, that's it's it doesn't play.
I understand the intent. It was just a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So this is sort of breaking news.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Columbia administrators have announced that the college students have till
this afternoon at two o'clock to get out of there
or they will be suspended. I don't know why they
don't just go with booted out. I guess that would
be too tough.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I'm telling you that the dynamic old people like ourselves
don't get is that the students, the so called students,
are high dollar customers at an exclusive resort. You have
to think of them like that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So they actually suspended that kid or did they actually
kick him out? That was one of the leaders that
we played on Friday, talking about you're all lucky, I'm
not murdering Jews yet, which was a heck of a
thing to say. But he only got kicked out after
that became a national story and it got so much attention.
They knew who he was there at Columbia because it
had been posting that stuff for a long time. Play
a little bit more of him this Kamanie James kid clip.
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Just play forty six and forty seven back to back.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
There, Michael Zionus, they don't deserve to live comfortably, let alone.
Zionis don't deserve to live the same way we're very
comfortable accepting that Nazis don't deserve to live.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Fascist don't deserve to live. Racist don't deserve to live.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Zonus, they shouldn't live in this world.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
The pull up Left's willingness to kill people for not
going along is I think it's underappreciated, and I think
part of the reason this guy hasn't gotten more attention
or more condemnation is he's a black guy and some
sort of gender confused you know of troubled person. So
he's non gender conforming or something or other.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Him is it?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You can't be attacking a man a person like that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Him and his ilku are setting up safe spaces with
rooms with crayons and puppies to help you calm down
when you took your SATs are calling for the death
deaths of various people.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, these people are completely unstable. They're illogical, they're they're
mentally troubled.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
How did he become a leader though he's one of
the leaders, if not the leader that got this protest
thing and Columbia started.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He sounds like an idiot for one thing.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, he does. He's not even good at the English language.
I think it's the same reason Claudine Gay became the
president of Harvard University. He was the most to militant
of the militants. He took the lead, which often happens
in revolutions. Mm hmm, Yeah, he was. You know, nobody
could out militant him, and so he led the chance.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Wow, it'll be interesting to see if Columbia follows through
on their threat to suspend these kids.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I don't know, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
You just wouldn't threaten them with kicking them out expulsion
as opposed to suspension.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Armstrong and Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Show, you're a white press that we.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Don't like white people. Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If you couldn't understand all the hubbub there, you had
somebody pushing back, what about hamas, hamas hiding behind innocent people,
et cetera, et cetera. The pro Palestine protester if you
want to call them that, as opposed to pro terrorist
or whatever. You're just a white person and we don't
like white people, Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
And then starts chanting a slogan that's a good display.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, you go. Here's a little more from our college
campuses does this.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
We're arrested Thursday at Emory University in Atlanta, including Martin Berg,
the third year law students was expected to graduate in
three weeks. Says their protest was peaceful until the police
showed up.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nothing was disrupted, and anyone saying that campus was disrupted
doesn't understand what a campus is. A campus is a
place for open expression and exchange of ideas, and that's
exactly what folks were doing out there as it was
it of that university. I don't know, but a lot
of the universities I've seen on television. That's not what
is happening.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You're not allowed to camp on the quad. You're camping
on the quad. Get out, nice try lawyer boy, you're
disrupting business. Came across this over the weekend, somebody explaining
how this sort of thing happens. Protests, like many forms
of group behavior, can be contagious. One way to understand
how protest movements spread, as this is spreading across the
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country like wildfire, is the ovation model, which I'd never
heard of before. A political science professor at UC Berkeley
came up with this years ago, who studies how protest
movements can affect politics, which would be an interesting thing
to study. In a theater audience, if some people in
the front stand up, then other people start to stand up,
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and it's a cascade through the auditorium. And he said,
that's what's happening with protesters. It's the ovation model. So
Columbia stood up, and then the other people around who
are kind of sympathetic to the idea of I guess
this was a pretty good play. I mean, I've had
that happen many times where I've thought, are we stand?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean it was an all right concert? I mean, okay,
I guess we're standing right right.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And then because once people start to stand, the act
of sitting and applauding becomes an expression of disapproval in
a way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right, You're exactly right. That's exactly what it happens with
the ovation things. So everybody stands up for this, it
is an okay performance. But if I stay sitting, I'm shouting.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I thought it sucked.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
No, you're just saying I don't think standing is justified.
I don't think is standing? Oh is justified? You have
become an activist.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right, that's more interesting to me than the first part. Yeah,
that is exactly what happens. If you don't go along
with it, you're seen as against. Yeah, okay. So then
this came out from whichever university over the weekend. You
got this guy Norman Finkelstein, who has given a speech
to the protesters and explaining to them how you should
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go about things if you actually want to accomplish your goals.
And it's important to know that the person that you're
gonna hear at the end, it's worth listening to this
whole thing what he says to them, and then the
reaction the person you're gonna hear at the end, after
he hands over the mic has got the Hamas mask
around their face when they take when they take over,
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Here's how it went.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
One has to exercise, not in the conservative sense, but
in a radical sense. One has to exercise in a
moment like this, if for no other reason, then for
the people of Gaza, one has to exercise the maximum responsibility,
maximum response ability, to get out of one's navel, to
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pull out of one's ego, and to always keep in
mind the question what are we trying to accomplish at
this particular moment.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's my views from the river to that.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
My understanding was he was explaining to them why they
shouldn't chant that, because that's calling for wiping out the
Jews and they should be more focused on protecting the
people of godzap blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And she says, yeah, a f you essentially, yeah, yeah,
he's giving a speech on how to protest. What do
you want to accomplish and what are you saying that
is going to accomplish those goals or just hurting your goals?
Get out of your navel, get away from your own ego,
say things, what are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And then he gets applied to place.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They played a laws thank you, old white straight male
thank you now hand the mic to the young radical
in the Hamas mask.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
From the River to the Seine, and everybody repeats it like, yeah,
if you were going to angry check Yeah. I thought
that was really something I was reminded of, I think
during the Trump campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But anyway, Hillary Clinton at one point when she was
getting all kinds of protesters and she said to them
on stage, and I don't even remember what their issue was,
her saying, what do you want to accomplish? What legislation?
Would you suggest that's how you accomplish things?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And she just got.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Killed for that by the radical young people. No, you
just want to shout crazy stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
New York Times has a pretty interesting article about the
growing rift between the different sides of this and the
Democratic Party and how it's really emerging as an issue
for them, because, as you pointed out many times you
had this bus, there are a coalition of nutty activists,
all sorts of different causes and points of view, and
they would never criticize each other because they are together
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in this left coalition that is the Democratic Party, but
that's falling apart. I thought that was pretty interesting. New
York Times is calling that out. But I really liked
this account from David Marcus, who's an interesting guy. I
didn't really know about him. He's a tech you know, entrepreneury,
builds startups. He's a super smart guy, and he just
likes to comment on things. He said, I went to
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UCLA this afternoon to talk to people peacefully. Few interesting
takeaways This is the protests. Obviously, One, most of them
openly say they support hamas a designated terrorist organization, could
stop there. But two, they say the ten to seven atrocities, rapes,
murders did not happen. The official line is even the
New York Times debunked that right, utterly fictional.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, I think this is a glimpse into where we're
all going to be the rest of our lives. I
hate call it fake news because then it gets attached
to Trump. But fake news I mean misinformation. I hate
to use that because it gets attached to Biden Fauci.
But news that is not accurate is what everybody looking
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for stuff to validate their thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Is going to take in and I don't know what
we're going to do about that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, crumble promptly. Anyway, he goes on. The other thing
you universally hear ten to seven was justified. It was
resistance point four. One hundred percent of the people we
spoke to had the exact same narrative and mo trying
to recenter the conversation to nineteen forty eight without knowing
any of the details when they were challenged, which is
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what I was going to say. In the way of
the Finkelstein clip. There the young angry woman just chanting
the slogans. That's usually all they have is a handful
of slogans and revolutionary you know, rationales, but no fact.
Moving along. Five, they have their own security and control
access to their encampment.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Six.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
We remained very calm, but they got really aggressive and angry,
which is not surprising. There's something about the feisty protester
that if you, in the calmest tone of voice, say
I'm a little confused on this point, they immediately get angry.
Let's see seven, When you approach people who are clearly
junior to others, handlers show up very quickly to take
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over zero point eight, since many of them are truly
ignorant about historical and president present facts. When they know
they're going to embarrass themselves, they all say, read our
five demands to divest, and now I'm going to stop
talking to you. So it was more organized and orchestrated
than I expected. Very sad to see so many young
people in a higher education setting being manipulated and brainwashed
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and totally devoid of critical thinking.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You need to go beyond they the news they take
in wherever they're getting at TikToker, Instagram or wherever they're
getting They don't believe October seventh is what it was.
Well okay, well obviously you would see this whole thing
completely different if if if what you think happened that
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day is different than what I know happened that day.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And it's difficult to go from there.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
YEA sure, Yeah, I mean that's starting point where that's
where the rubber meets the road of divergence. That's where
the fork in the road is. And uh, and I
don't know how we're going to deal with this going
forward on every issue. I really don't crumble. You might
be right. The media likes to mock the crowd that
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believes a whole bunch of the things that actually have
been debunked about the stolen election, Certain things with Venezuela
and voting machine stuff like that have been just that
didn't pan out.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
They weren't even they weren't even presented in court after
making you know, I won't get into that, but the
media likes to mock people that still believe that. But
you're given a pas to all these college students that
believe these atrocities didn't happen on October seventh. This is
a serious problem we're gonna have, and I don't know
what the way out is.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I don't either, honestly, I'm not optimistic, which is kind
of sickening. One thing about the New York Times article,
I mentioned one quote. Rather, let's see, so they're quoting
Representative Greg Kazar of Texas, how the Democrats are trying
to figure out where to be on this, and he
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went to Texas to show solidarity with the demonstrators, and
he says, so often history ends up vindicating those who
call for peace early. He goes, but asked about instances
in which demonstrators around the country have used anti Semitic language.
Mister Kazar replied, those people suck. They're not part of
a peace movement. Anybody that's motivated by hatred, they're not peaceful.
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And then one other democratic activist, oh is Jared Moscow.
It's Florida Democrat. He finally said, out loud, where's the quote?
There you go? Uh. Some on the left who rightfully
criticized anti Semitic chants from quote white Aryan looking men
with tiki torches ray in Charlottesville in twenty seventeen seem
reluctant to denounce threatening speech when it came from liberal
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leading Americans. Quote, I don't see the same level of outrage.
It's politically inconvenient now, you know. I hate pacifists. I
hate them. You're stupid. If you're a pacifist, you're stupid.
I didn't used to feel that way, but.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I feel that way now. It doesn't make any sense
calls for peace.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Often the calls for peace and go unrecognized until blah
blah blah calls for peace. So Israel is supposed to
allow Hamas to continue to exist while the leaders of
Hamas continue to say there'll be many more October seventh, unless.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You think they don't mean it, unless you just think
that's a bargaining position.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But that's a ridiculous point of view.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, position is regularly letting the evil side get a
breather or win.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It makes no sense. It's an easy, comfortable place to be.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I don't think anybody sure hit anybody. It make me,
you know, it's very easy to to seem like a
good person. But it's regularly just intellectually Uh, well, this
is just stupid or intellectually dishonest because it doesn't needs
no solution.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You need to lead a peaceful protest against pacifism.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think we need to throw bricks at pacifists. Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That is irony, that's humorless parody. Exactly, it's bricks.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No bricks will be hurled. And uh and we got
to take a break.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
But as look into these headlines, and I don't understand
why the adults don't take over UNC students camped out
saying we will not be leaving. Okay, I guess that's
up to you will not be graduating either, goodbye, oh bye.
Penn encampment continues as protesters defy university orders, come out school.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Just kick them out of school. It's so easy to.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Take care of h No, the high dollar customers. And
they're not students, they're customers, and they're always right. That's
what the cowardly non teaching administrators believe.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, the governor of South Dakota is not going to
be the vice president because she shot her dog and
bragged about it. And you can Texas anytime. Four one
five four one five two nine five kftc.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Armstrong Hengetti.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
The high speed rail Link will connect Vegas with existing
train services in the eastern suburbs of Los Angeles. The
developer says it will take about two hours to go
each way.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The all new electric train will zip.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Along at one hundred and eighty six miles per hour.
This twelve billion dollar high speed system is expected to
create thirty five thousand jobs. The goal is to start
running trains by twenty twenty eight, when the Summer Olympics
return to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Man, that is going to be one drunk train ride
on the way to LA and then quiet and shame
faced on the way back. Like all flights are to
and from Las Vegas. I should say, interesting, and do
we have a timetable on this? I don't have the
written version in front of me. But unlike the fanciful,
idiotic and enormous ripoff slash, you know, government spending boondoggle
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at the California bullet train, is I think this thing
will actually happen because thefit there's profit in it. Somebody
could inform mister Armstrong that were back on the air,
back on the air and have been for some time.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Welcome. I just walked back in the room. What is happening?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We were just talking about the train from La to
Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The high speed train and is so.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What it struck me on the CBS report last night
is they didn't mention that California has spent one.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hundred billion dollars on a high speed train. You know
already that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You're just going to ignore that and talk about this
great high speed train, which I'm sure will happen because
it makes sense and you can see it actually being
of use to people and people wanting to write it
as opposed.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
To the one that goes from Bakersfield to wherever Mercead well,
almost Mersad. I've got to get a cab into Mersad, California.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's ridiculous anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I can see tons of people use of that two
hour trip from Vegas to La back and forth, and
you don't have to get to the airport an hour
early and you know, get off plane everything, so it'll
be about the same amount of time. Yeah, I could
see that being hugely success. Came across this in the
New York Times over the weekend. I thought it was
some of the funniest fake news I've ever seen in
my life. From a researcher, I have a feeling you're
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going to push back against this. I don't actually know.
This woman says she's done the research. She's a historian
of science at the University of Pennsylvania. Confronting the conventional
wisdom about the importance of posture. She is re examining
all the data over the last century or so and
says the posture panic of the earlier twentieth century is
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not based in anything, and it's just fake news.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm curious, I mean, how bad can my posture be.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It kind of got started in like Victorian England and
then transferred to the United States, and it just kind
of became an elitist thing about sitting up straight and
standing up straight. But there's no like real data or
science around it at all about it really being important.
And it was just kind of became a like a
stratification culture class thing. But there's no there's no according
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to her, there's no real data about posture.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, indeed, I'm not going to push back. I'm just
curious you've misunderstood me. In your defense, I'm very complicated,
but yeah, I mean, intuitively, you think humans pretty much
sit the way we're supposed to sit. We walked the
way we're designed to walk. When we lie down, we
lie supposed to line up.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's kind of funny if you think back, think that
like some at some point caveman were just sitting up
and straight and standing up straight, and we will say.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well pass me, like of Antelope, put you please. Years And.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
I mean it was disturbing. I mean it was kind
of sociopathic. Just reading the account of it, I have
to ask, like what editor allowed that to be printed? One,
I can't imagine Donald Trump allowing Christy Nauman on the
ticket after showing that she murders puppies. I mean, we
remember the hell that Mitt Romney got for just putting
(17:37):
his dogs on the roof. Now Christy Nauman is taking
him out back and murdering puppies. I just don't think
that's a good vice presidential nominee.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, if you didn't follow the story for the week,
and you might be wondering, what the hell are they
talking about. So we'll just bring you up to speed
on that enough so that you have knowledge on that.
Do you want to tease that I missed the headlines
out of the CNN pole that just came out. The
headline that's getting all the attention is Trump's up by
six or seven or whatever it is. There's more interesting
stuff than that in there, So we'll get to that
(18:07):
in a little bit, which factors into this.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So this Christy Nome woman.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Hot, female governor of South Dakota. And I mentioned hot
in this context because Trump's way more likely to pick
her if she's hot. You come on, you can tell
me I'm please look at his lawyers. Yeah, you're gonna
tell me I'm wrong about that. She is on the
short list in some people's eyes. I don't know if
I think that's true, but uh, she also had an
(18:33):
affair with Corey Lewandowski isn't didn't that right? That hasn't
seen the day? Oh yeah, and then the whole endorse
a legend. Hanson's from South Dakota, so he has inside
knowledge a legend.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh he's biased, You're biased.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Plus there's that whole weird like endorsing a Texas teeth
straightening practice thing. All right, she's doing endorse much wackiness
like a radio host, right well, literally murdering puppies. Okay,
So here's the deal on this, and I'll go with
the Washington Post version, although every version was similar. Democrats
(19:09):
political figures dog pile onto Trump VP hopeful after story
of animal killings. The outpouring of animal love from political
social media is all in response to South Dakota Governor
Christy Nome, who is believed to be run in the
running to be Donald Trump's running mate, as we said,
admitting in her forthcoming book that she killed a family
dog and goat in a gravel pit with a gun
(19:29):
on the same day, according to an excerpt of the
book obtained by the Guardian in advance of its publication
next month. And this is classic I want to be
president or vice president stuff. You put out a book,
I wouldn't say. Putting in the book that you shot
your dog is classic. Putting out a book is classic,
and then it gives you a reason to go on
(19:50):
all these different shows. And I think she was hoping
she was going to be the vice presidential running mate.
Nooma Farmer and ranchers said she shot and killed their
fourteen month old wire hair pointer Cricket because she was
untrainable and aggressive. Nom described how Cricket was over excited
on a hunt and wrote that she attacked another family's
chickens like a trained assassin. The governor also said that
(20:11):
Cricket had tried to bite her during the incident. After killing,
speaking as a guy whose dog killed chickens, they don't
attack them like a trained assassin. They attacked them like
a dog. Well, I'm sure the hyperbole is necessary.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well I'm going to stand up for the governor here
in a second, so I'll save that. But after killing Cricket,
Nome wrote that she then decided to kill a family
goat that was nasty and mean, which loved to chase
Nome's children.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So there's outrage over this all across America, And find
you if you're outraged.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're outraged.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I saw a post on social media in which somebody
responded by saying, look, I'm a rancher in this.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
She says, this is normal country behavior. It's not. Well,
I'm here to tell you it is.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I've known so many people with rural lifestyles that have
shot their dogs or goats or whatever that was a
dangerous animal, or killing their animals or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I can't even tell you how often it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Whether you think it's a good idea or not, that's
completely up to you. But it is not like psychopathic
who could possibly do this this? Only it happens all
the time in rural areas. I'm just telling you it's
a common thing that happens. Well, and not to pile
on the poor dead dog. But it attacked a family
member too, didn't it? Or or I build somebody you
know that, I think, yeah, bit her, bit her? Yeah, yeah,
(21:25):
I do know that. When I like when I went
to the pound and got a dog. One time, they
did this test. This was in California years ago. I
don't know if they still do it, but they did
this test where they put the dog on its back
and if the dog acted a sort of way, it
went to the death chamber. If it acted a different way,
it could be adopted out. It was just a test
to see if this has a certain aggressive.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Nature or whatever. Maybe you hate that. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I realize the urban view of dogs is no matter
what your dog is like, you've got to dedicate the
rest of your life to figuring out how to live
with it, train its adjust its behavior, work around its
behavior or whatever. Fine or ignore it and tolerated. Yeah, fine,
do that if you want. I mean, go ahead, I
don't care. But that doesn't happen on like country farms,
(22:09):
a lot where your dog is gonna murder your baby
goat or all your chickens, or eat your cat or
bite your kid or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They dispatch it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'll also say that I've had a dog situations where
this dog has got to go because it is it
is not a safe dog to be around, and you,
at least in California, you can't get rid of it.
There's no other way. I've taken a dog like that
to the shelter and.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
They wouldn't take it. Wow, I've had.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
This first lesson. It's adoptible. They just wouldn't take it. Yeah,
exactly because it wasn't adoptable.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah. Maybe if you said, I mean then I.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Thought that I should have said I found this dog
on a country road or something like that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Maybe they'd take it then, But I said it's aggressive. No,
we can't.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
We can't take an aggressive dog. Well what am I
supposed to do with it? I don't know, but we
can't take it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Okay, Oh wow, Yeah. I look, first of all, we
need to label this segment of the podcast Jack Condon's
Killing Puppies. Secondly, yeah, I think you have a real
urban divorced from realities, including death and the way animals
(23:20):
are of view of things versus a rural view.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
On the other hand, if I'm the editor Christy Nomes
campaign advisor, I'd be thinking, well, I would say to her, Look,
you've made so many courageous decisions in your life, let's
leave out shooting the dog. Well, I don't think this
is going to play.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I took in a fair amount of commentary over this
weekend when this broke, and not one person said what
you just said or I just said, Not one even
got close to it. It was unanimous. She's a psychopath.
That's the worst thing. I've ever heard so universally. So
I just want to say that I'm expecting tons of
hate over our comments. And then what you said is
(23:59):
one hundred percent right. How does she how does she
think that in any way whatsoever helps her?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
In her book?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You got to read the Room. The Room is America.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The Room is America, and it's mostly suburban and uh
and uh and no and urban?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Sure, And do you think you need to put that
in there to curry favor with anybody?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean, is there any positive to it?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
It's at best with some people a break even where
they might say I've had to do that too.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It's it's unfortunate, but you had to do it that best.
I mean, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
It's not going to get you any voice right all downside.
I just kenn if I'm Trump, That's what I take away.
Your judgment is awful. You're not gonna be on the ticket, right.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, the takeaway is not Sarah Palin Junior.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Is off the list.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
My takeaway wouldn't be she's a dog murderer. My takeaway
would be she's got no political compass. Yeah, I would agree,
she's not ready for the big time, not even close.
So anyway, thanks for coming Christy. But that's a nice teeth,
really nice. She in my mind, is in the works
out too much category. And there she works out too much.
(25:10):
She's too veiny and swoll. You overdid it. That's just
my opinion.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Wow, Wow, this is your hosogyny. This is sexisting a
woman for being fits.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Guys can do it to guys can do it too.
You go too far. Now you look weird. Wow.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Sexist radio host condones killing dogs before bizarre attack.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
On fit women. That's my headline. Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So the new CNN poll has got Biden behind Trump
by the biggest margin in a major national poll. Thus
far might be an outlier. It's an outlier from previous
week's polls. But maybe it's a new trend. I don't
know anyway, it's what seven points, But so in the
numbers behind the numbers, I want to hit real quick
that I didn't see till now.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
This just came out today.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Biden's approval rating on the economy thirty four percent, on
inflation twenty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Can you get a boy?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Colin Jost Saturday night at the White House Correspondence dinner
had a number of jokes going both direction, and the
crowd would get really uncomfortable with these, but both direction
where he would say and yet it's tied. He would
say something about Trump that was just outlandish, that is true,
and he'd say, and yet the election is tied, and
(26:27):
the crowd would get really uncomfortable. But then he'd say
something about you know, he'd say something about about Biden.
Also Biden is blah blah blah blah blah, and yet
the election is tied. It is interesting both ways that
you know, you can have the faults both of them
bring to the table, yet it's a tie.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
It's like watching a foot race between a ninety year
old and some dude who's weighed five hundred thousands.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And yet they're tied. Can't possibly win a race. He
he's five hundred pounds and yet his opponent is ninety.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
So Biden, because you would in a normal situation, no
flipping way, you get re elected with a thirty four
percent approval on the economy in twenty percent on inflation
when it's the number one issue.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean, it's just not even a question.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
A broad majory would I would say with those numbers
running the incumbent is political malpractice. You gotta yank him,
You got to get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
What percentage of Americans think the economic conditions are poor?
Seventy percent is the overall number, seventy You don't get
re elected with that number, You just don't.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yet they're times.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I thought that was Colin Joe's best work on that stuff,
which please no one, but it's damned interesting commentary. Sixty
one percent say Biden's presidency has thus far been a failure.
Sixty one percent of Americans say his presidency has been
a failure.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
One more time, and yet.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
They're tied. Oh boy, breaking news. Nikki Haley's admitted to
strangling her cat. I guess she's she's probably off the
list too.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh dang it, that'd say, yeah, yeah, oh no, is
that true?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, I guess it's true.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
DeSantis flushed a hamster down the toilet, so wow, he's
probably out.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Of the hole.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Read the Room put that in his official autobiography. I
know I can make tough decisions when the chips are down,
Like when my kids got tired of hamster, I said
we'll give it to me then, and down it went.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh boy, this is breaking news.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Carrie Lake, who's still hoping to be on the vice
president's list, just tweeted this out, a picture of her
holding your cute little pug.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Everyone with sush sheet withs wish sushi. Boy.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's a tongue twister. Everyone wish sushi. Okay, that's the
name of her pug. Everyone wish Sushi a happy birthday.
She's brought our family so much joy in tons of laughs.
Jeff and I are so busy on the campaign trail.
Sometimes I wish we could just bring our pug along,
clear loughly transparent effort to say, I don't shoot my dog,
(29:24):
I hug it, and wish I brought it on the campaign.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh my god, how obvious can you?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's just so employingly desperate.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And that's gonna be what gets you on the ticket
or not.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Every time I think our politics is as stupid as
it could conceivably be, I'm impressed.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Anew the one other number I wanted to jam in
when they do the five way race, which they should
do more often, because it's not gonna be Trump versus
Biden in any state. There will always be Cornell West,
a Green Party candidate, maybe RFK junior whoever. But in
the five way race, Trump leaps out to a nine
point advantage over Biden. If you include all those other candidates,
(30:10):
they're not all going to be on in all states.
But if you're wondering who it takes most from, it
would appear that they mostly take from Biden. We got
a lot more on the way. You can text any
stuff about the dog stuff four one five two nine
five KFTC.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
Behaviors can be modified. Look, we see that with the
current president's dogs. He had some you know, German shepherds
there that probably weren't so best suited to be around
a lot of people in the White House. And so
those those dogs weren't taken out back and shot. They
were taken in, put on a farm, or given to
somebody else who might be able to retrain them.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Right, there's lots of things you can do.
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Now, you know, an old sick horse or or a
goat that's knocking your kids over, super mean Biden, your
kids is something different, puppies like. Look, Sarah McLaughlin is
out for Christy Nome right now, it's all I gotta
tell you, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's a fourteen month old dog. I suppose it's still
a puppy, but it's it's its full size and if
it's aggressive, so your options are it's always well, you
could you could train it, Okay, maybe you could dedicate
a tremendous amount of time to training it and alteringate behavior.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Maybe not, though it might might not be alterable behavior.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And then the whole Or give it to someone else,
someone else who wants to take an aggressive dog.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Right, you give it to somebody with a farm upstate
where it will be shot.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Right if it's aggressive or eats the cats or bites anybody. Yeah,
I don't know the uh uh uh oh. I just
saw Tim Scott had a pony as a kid that they.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
No, no, don't go there, do not go there.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
If you glue anything today, think of Tim Scott's pony.
That's all I'm saying. Somebody said, I heard it.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Explain that the governor included the dog story to show
she could make tough decisions, even if they're difficult and unpopular.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Use a better example.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Talk about the time as governor you dealt with college
protesters and decided to something or other or striking workers
or something. Don't go with the I shot my fourteen
month old dog in a gravel pit as you're.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Story to obey, right right, Yeah, And I'm grossly, you know,
oversimplifying this situation, but yeah, that's it's it doesn't play.
I understand the intent. It was just a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So this is sort of breaking news.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Columbia administrators have announced that the college students have till
this afternoon at two o'clock to get out of there
or they will be suspended. I don't know why they
don't just go with booted out. I guess that would
be too tough.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I'm telling you that the dynamic old people like ourselves
don't get is that the students, the so called students,
are high dollar customers at an exclusive resort. You have
to think of them like that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So they actually suspended that kid or did they actually
kick him out? That was one of the leaders that
we played on Friday, talking about you're all lucky, I'm
not murdering Jews yet, which was a heck of a
thing to say. But he only got kicked out after
that became a national story and it got so much attention.
They knew who he was there at Columbia because it
had been posting that stuff for a long time. Play
a little bit more of him this Kamanie James kid clip.
(33:30):
Just play forty six and forty seven back to back.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
There, Michael Zionus, they don't deserve to live comfortably, let alone.
Zionis don't deserve to live the same way we're very
comfortable accepting that Nazis don't deserve to live.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Fascist don't deserve to live. Racist don't deserve to live.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Zonus, they shouldn't live in this world.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
The pull up Left's willingness to kill people for not
going along is I think it's underappreciated, and I think
part of the reason this guy hasn't gotten more attention
or more condemnation is he's a black guy and some
sort of gender confused you know of troubled person. So
he's non gender conforming or something or other.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Him is it?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You can't be attacking a man a person like that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Him and his ilku are setting up safe spaces with
rooms with crayons and puppies to help you calm down
when you took your SATs are calling for the death
deaths of various people.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, these people are completely unstable. They're illogical, they're they're
mentally troubled.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
How did he become a leader though he's one of
the leaders, if not the leader that got this protest
thing and Columbia started.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He sounds like an idiot for one thing.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, he does. He's not even good at the English language.
I think it's the same reason Claudine Gay became the
president of Harvard University. He was the most to militant
of the militants. He took the lead, which often happens
in revolutions. Mm hmm, Yeah, he was. You know, nobody
could out militant him, and so he led the chance.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Wow, it'll be interesting to see if Columbia follows through
on their threat to suspend these kids.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I don't know, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
You just wouldn't threaten them with kicking them out expulsion
as opposed to suspension.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
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