IS AMERICA'S "NEW WORLD ORDER" FOREIGN POLICY OUTDATED AND RECKLESS

The guys discuss how America has awakened the Islamic Giant from a 200 year old slumber

Episode Transcript

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Ron DeSantis ends his campaign where itbegan on Twitter with a forgettable announcement to
his multitude of fans that he's spentone hundred and fifty million dollars to get
twenty thousand votes in Iowa. It'strue, but he did endorse mister Trump.
Nicky Haley spends thirty one million dollarsToros money in New Hampshire. And

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if Haley can't win New Hampshire,She's probably not going to win anywhere.
She's given two victory speeches General,and she hasn't won a thing. If
she can't make it there, shecan't make it anywhere. As of this
recording, I think the big questionis how much money is she going to
raise in the next seven days.If she can't raise any new big money,

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she's got to get out. Who'sthat guy read something that just put
her on pause? Now? Reread Hoffman from I think it's Hoffman or
Yeah, he's put her on pause, you know. And I have some
thoughts about Nicki Haley general, andcan we call her Nikki Heileary? Yeah?
Sure, she's coming across to meas a quintessential politician. She gets

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up there and I just feel likeShe's a vessel that the that the establishment,
that the Imperial City is looking thatif they can just get enough airtime,
get enough op eds, get enoughcolumn inches in the New York Times
or WAPO or the Journal, thatmaybe the American people can be misled into

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thinking that Nicki Haley actually has ashot at beating Donald Trump. Clearly,
she's pulling at six percent in SouthCarolina, her own state where she was
governor for eight years. That's allI need to know. And you know,
my daughters, my eighteen year olddaughters like Nikki Haley. I just

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get a whiff of neocon. It'sit's just that she's a member of the
Bush family. It just it justfeels that way. And her campaign is
billionaire dependent, which of course thatis poisoned to us and Democrat defendant.
She has no group, grassroots fundraisingbase. That to me, as a

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grarian Jeffersonian believer, if you don'thave grassroots and you're only getting support from
the media and billionaires, you don'thave what it's going to take. And
now it's very likely that Trump's goingto sweep all fifty stats, all fifty

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states, the six territories, andNew Hampshire's demographics made it uniquely a bad
fit for Trump, and yet hejust bigfoot at her. So if you
try to engineer a state in alab to be bad for Donald Trump in
a Republican primary, it would looka lot like New Hampshire. He doesn't
poll well with college educated voters.New Hampshire is one of the top most

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college educated states in the Union.He does extremely well with white evangelicals,
does not have a lot of whiteevangelicals. He does not do well historically
with independent swing voters. That ispretty much New Hampshire's calling card. This
was supposed to be Nikki Haley's beststate, even better than her home state

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in South Carolina, and she justgets clawbird. What you know, at
some point in time, she's gotto bow out. It's Donald Trump's my
question. Now on the table forme is Trump's veep thoughts. Let me
give you some name, Let megive you some names, general, let
me give you some names. Allright, I don't think we're gonna hear

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anything for quite a while. There'sreally no reason to roll out his vice
president choice. And he says he'salready picked somebody. Let me roll out
some names. Carry Lake. Ilike Carrie Lake. Okay, Tim Scott,
Senator Tim Scott, South Carolina.I like him, but he has

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a little bit of a whiff ofthe Rhino about him. A little imperial
city, got a little imperial cityon there. Vi Vike, I like
Viveke. I like him more andmore when I saw him right as Trump
was giving his winning speech, andhe within moments of speaking, had the
crowd responding to him with the voteTrump vote, Trump voted. He just

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had them in his hands. Heis Ai on cocaine. He is something
else. He's what Trump would beif Trump was from Ohio MTG. I
think she does not have the executiveexperience yet. I think that she needs
a little more seasoning down there inGeorgia. And I don't think we're quite

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ready for she's a pugilist. Ithink we need to keep her in the
people's house. She's a good fighterwhere she is right now. Yeah,
I don't think we want to movethat chess piece from the Freedom Caucus to
an impotent VP position. It's hardto lose maga people in Congress because they're
not always replaced by other maga people. That's why I love Rand Paul,

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but I would hate to lose him. Yeah. Yeah. In the Senate.
Elise Stefanic, the New York congresswomanwho is the highest ranking woman in
the House. GOP leadership thoughts onher. I think she should get even
higher rankings in the House. Yeah, and keep going and get more powerful.
Maybe see her as speaker. I'dlove her as speaker. Two dark
horses. One not so much adark horse, but people might be surprised,

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and I mentioned his name. Theother I'm a huge fan. I'm
a huge fan first jd Vance.I like jd Vance, but I like
the idea of having jd Vance andBernie Moreno both as US senators for a
while. I agree right now myfavorite. But I would be thrilled if

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Donald Trump picked as his vice presidentByron Donald's, congressman from Southwest African American
younger guy, maga through and through. Very good on the on the his
feet, on his feet, onthe stage, handles the press. Well.

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I like him a lot. Iwas impressed and I've only seen him
a few times now, but Ilike I like Byron Donalds. Keep an
eye on Byron Donalds. I likeByron Donald's I just I don't see the
executive experience there yet like I've seenit for Aveke. Veke has run a
major corporation and turned it into alot of money and he can't be bribed.
He's got Trump kind of money.The Veke will be, The Veke

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will be, He'll be, He'llbe someplace else in the administration, He'll
be someplace else. We're not gonnathe Veke hasn't been promised an ambassadorship in
Germany, right, I don't thinkhe would take it's been there's something,
there's a there's a seat at thetable. I'd like him to be director
of the FBI, what I wasthinking, and get a get a guy

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like cash Patilla in there, Deputychief. So how are we doing on
time on this segment General? We'vegot a couple of minutes left. So
what is happening? So this wholedisconnect. On one side you get the
globalists and the lords of easy money, and on the other side you've got
MAGA, and then you've got everyoneelse in the valley in the middle that's

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trying to figure out what what What'swhat? I feel as though MAGA nation
knows that the other side will cheat, has cheated, will cheat again.
We now know it, and theyknow we know it. They know exactly
the number of votes. They've gotthe Electoral College map drilled down. They

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know exactly how to do this.And it's not going to be the machines.
It's going to be the ballots.It's going to absolutely be stop counting
here, add these ballots over here, and they're just gonna eclipse just enough
like they did in twenty. Whenyou look at the numbers, you'll see
just enough. It was just theirregularities are just a little too the true

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incidental. The trouble with that isthat you can do that when the margin
is a one percent or two percent, but if it's four to five percent,
you just can't print that many.Resounding The resounding victories that Donald Trump
is going to continue to rack upin the fact that every indictment he gets
stronger. What was the act?Is there a Marvel or DC character that

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got stronger every time you it gotshot with something. It's almost like god'sillop.
But yeah, I mean, Ionly vote for the people who have
been indicted by the deep real quicktake on Nicky Haley. I do think
that Nicky Haley is an establishment vessel. I think that the Democrats would be
the Democrats and the Rhinos ablishment inImperial City would be just fine with Nikki

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because she's just another vessel like JoeBiden. Get in the White House and
you can really pretty much install theoperating code that you need, and she's
going to be so beholden to theOne thing about having someone in the White
House without grassroots is that their constituencyis the donor class. I always whenever

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I see Nikki Hailary, I alwayswonder which Bush family member has put on
this wig. There's a it's ahuge whiff of neo conservativism, which is
going to spill over into our bigtopic of the day, which is revisiting
the American foreign policy, something that'snot getting a lot of traction. We

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talk about the Middle East, wetalk about Ukraine, we talk about Taiwan,
but we need a whole overview discussion, and that's what the General and
I are going to dig into alittle bit later on in the show.
Anyway, I think the Republican voterare saying this crap needs to stop.

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Now. We know now that youhave been lying and cheating, We know
that you have been suppressing the truth. We know that the media has been
doing everything it can to prop upNikki Haley take down Donald Trump. We
know these indictments are fraudulent, they'rebs. These are not strong enough at

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all in the minds of a lotof millions of Americans to take the top
political opponent and try to stick himinto prison. This is our United States
of America. It is unreal.General, Before we jump into our thoughts

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on foreign policy, I want totalk about King Joe, the American monarch.
He's out of touch, like aalmost like a feudal lord. He's
I would say that his policies arevery capricious to the people, like a
feudal lord. He rules from aprotective bubble like a feudal monarch. He

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doesn't want any opposition. He wantsto run unopposed, and he's got the
nobility in the media, the nobilityand the financial houses behind him, and
he has built he has this fiftyyears of being in public service has been

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well. How many mansions does hehave three? Recently quite a few,
So clearly public service has been veryfruitful for Delaware Joe. You saw how
they ran him in twenty twenty theykept him in the base meant COVID was
so helpful to these folks. Itmakes you wonder if maybe COVID wasn't released

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for a reason. All right,I think I think that COVID was accidental.
But the response to its purpose,the response, especially for rewriting the
state election laws, came blisteringly fast. Blisteringly fast. Yes, I remember
the first week of April reading inthe New York Times that that Pennsylvania was

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already changing their laws for mail inballots. And I'm like, wait a
minute, it's the first week ofApril. We're talking about something that's seven
months from now. What do theyknow? I don't know. So,
you know, the Democrats say they'refighting for democracy, yet look at their
candidate very very much like a feudallord, acting, behaving, and ruling

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very much like a feudal lord,to the extent that it's crushing their own
is crushing his own people. Youtalk to my employees, and my employees
have been with me for twenty twentyfive years. My employees are very well
paid, according to me, allright, they are having a hard time
having enough money leftover to save anymoney. They are having a hard time

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making their insurance payments. They're havinga hard time even looking and seeing a
bright spot on the future here inthe United States. Then you factor in
that we have kids of military age, and we see the direction that we're
heading in foreign, foreign wars andforeign affairs general. We truly do have

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an imperial city that continues to accelerateits reckless spending. Not on the Democrat.
I'm not putting it on the Democrats, both parties. The debt now
exceeds one hundred and twenty percent ofGDP. Paying the interest on this debt,
will it soon exceed our entire militarybudget. Entitlements will be one and
two, Interests will be number three, Military will be number four. So

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there's only they have to raise taxes, and you raise taxes on your W
two and ten ninety nine. People, the true wealthy, the uber wealthy,
live on loans. They borrow againsttheir savings. They don't have income,
and they don't have income, right, they borrow against their wealth.
And if you've got one hundred million, you can live on interest and you

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can borrow against that money. Also, the lords of easy money, it's
very easy to use other people's moneyprivate equity. So the people that are
going to actually pay this bill,this Butcher's bill. They're going to be
our kids and our grandkids. Somebodyis benefiting mightily on the seven trillion dollars
that we're spending. Someone's benefiting mightily. So let me just recap. The

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monarch wants to run unopposed. Themonarch wants to imprison his chief rival.
The monarch wants to jail and contentand silence his critics. The monarch has
the nobility and the media suppressing negativestories. The monarch seems to be okay
with sending our boys and girls towar without consulting US Congress. This monarch

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seems to be okay with the workforcebeing flooded with cheap labor from all around
the world. And this monarch seemsto be okay knowing that it's going to
be the working class and the professionalclass, the ten ninety nine s,
the w twos that are going topay through it through higher taxes and inflation.

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And every time this man speaks,you realize just how out of touch
he is, not only with thereal world, just main street, but
cognitively, cognitively, just his personalspace. He doesn't even have spatial orientation.
You see that he's just not withit. He's not well. He
doesn't know how to get off thestage. Literally, he doesn't know where

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to go. And somehow the Democratsare the ones protecting our democracy. It's
lunacy. Well, and the otherthing too, is we're not a democracy,
We're a republic. In a democracy, fifty one percent of the vote
means you can kill somebody. Butin a republic, the democracy it is.

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In a republic, no, youhave to have a supermajority to do
things like that. Now, mybig concern, my big concern right now
is that this same, this samefaction of Americans are the ones in control
of our foreign policy. And theUnited States has had endless, mindless interventions

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in quarrels, conflicts that are notAmerica's concern. We will suffer numerous acts
of terror on our soil that ultimately, eventually, and I pray not,
but ultimately, we will deal witha weapon of mass destruction here in our
borders. Nine to eleven was justthe beginning. Why do they hate us?

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General? Do they hate us becausethey hate democracy, republicanism, the
Bill of Rights, the concept ofa constitutional republic. No, they hate
us because We've been disrupting their nations, their countries, their culture, their
forms of governance. We've been plotting, the CIA has been plotting all over

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the world. Cous We've bombed them, We've taken our soldiers to their soil.
We've killed thousands of dads and brothersand sons. I just at some
point in time, general, theAmerican people need to have a bigger voice

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on sending our boys and girls tofight. And we're right on the brink
of something big in World War three. The conditions that we're dealing with right
now are far worse than the conditionsthat were existing in nineteen twelve and nineteen
thirteen, far worse. There wereabsolutely diplomatic exit doors to avoid World War

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One, and we can talk aboutthat. There were absolutely diplomatic routes away
from the Great War. There arenone here in the Middle East. I
don't see any diplomatic political solutions atall. So, how is what we're
doing in Ukraine and what we're aboutto be doing in the Middle East,

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how does this benefit us everyday Americans? Well, given the fact, and
I'm not asking you to defend America'scurrent foreign policy because you may not agree
with it. You might agree withme that we're doing this all wrong.
I think that we've got sort ofan eighties and a nineties look at things
when we think about the Persian Gulfbeing this absolutely essential area for world trade

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and all of that. I mean, even if you look at the governments
there, they're specifically turning away fromtheir oil wealth and trying to do other
things. And they're turning away fromthe US dollar, yes, and they're
they're trying to start up different businessesand different ways of making money and becoming
financial centers and things like that becausethey know that they can't that oil is

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not always going to be it.And under Trump, within two years we
were energy independent and that entirely tookaway the whole region of Southwest Asia out
of our security needs one thousand percent. We're talking about American security interest,
our national interests, and for thelife of me, I can't see what

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it is in Ukraine for the lifeof me, other than protecting our ally
the fifty first state of Israel.Are are the American interests. I don't
know how sending our boys and youngwomen to fight a regional ancient religious war

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makes any sense. We have plentyof oil. We have plenty of natural
gas, we have plenty of coal. We have we can absolutely spruce up
our nuclear power plants. We canbe energy independent within very short order.
If we get the right person inthe White House, we are going to

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reap what we've sown. And wehave absolutely devastated much of the Middle East.
We've bombed the Balkans, We've uhthe Just look at the Suez Canal.
How the European empires of France andEngland went right through there and created
a trade route that benefited them.Like the French, the British and American

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either colonized, occupied, or protectoratesof many Arab nation states. And now
there's a revival of Islamic fundamentalism thathearkens back to the medieval times. The
barbaric levels of warfare that they willbring to us. Is this worth protecting

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our oil interest or protecting twelve percentof the world's trade supply as opposed to
adding nine days and going around thecoast of Africa? Is it worth sending
our boys and girls to go fightsomeone else's war. Every president from seventeen

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seventy six to World War One understoodwhat would happen to us if we got
into alliances and treaties with other nations, specific the European nations and now nations
in the Middle East and the globalSouth of Africa. Woodrow Wilson ran on
not going to war in nineteen sixteen. By the summer of nineteen eighteen,

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General someone looking like Woodrow Wilson said, one million dough boys were in France
fighting Europe's battles. Oh, hell, soon we changed. Nineteen sixteen,
he wins the presidential election saying We'renot going to war. In nineteen eighteen,

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we have a million American boys inthe trenches. What happened. What
happened World War One was perfectly avoidableif you actually look at the history the
You had a series of when Victoria'soldest grandson was the Kaiser of Germany.

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Right, Yeah, the the Europeannations, with their monarchies, had still
tried to make the Yeah, theystill tried to make a balance of power
intermarriage effort, even though the monarchieswere not powerful anymore. And bear in
mind, bear in mind that whenthe United States jumped into World War One,

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it had already been at war forthree years. Right when we jumped
into World War Two, France hadbeen under control of Germany for four years,
and we only declared war on Germanywhen after Germany declared war on us
right after Pearl. However, wehave not been as soon as the whistle
blows the first one out of thegates. And that's where we are now,

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that's where we are. You know, from seventy seventeen seventy six to
nineteen eighteen, I would say generallynineteen hundred, we had very much.
We stay in our lane, youguys, stay there. George Washington said
this, Thomas Jefferson said this,Abe Lincoln said this, John Adams said
this. Franklin Pierce said this.And there's some wisdom to that, absolutely,

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some wisdom to that. And thenonce we became more of a global
hegemon, Yeah, once we gotinto the global banking and global trade,
and you know, it became harderto ignore some trading partners who were facing
defeat. Then we reluctantly get in. But crap, it took the bombing

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of Pearl Harbor, and it tookthe sinking of the Lusitania. Those things
aren't even happening to us, andwe're already there. We're already there.
We just lost two Navy seals inthe Red Sea this week. We are
now being we now need to lookat are we there in the Middle East

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for oil? No? Are wethere because of Israel? Is it our
becoming our fifty first state? Becausewe are getting drug into another war that
will not be like a European civilwar, which basically World War One was
it was a clash of Christian nationsfighting each other. Here this will be
a clash of civilizations that goes backthe Arab Islamic world versus Jeo Christian world.

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And this is not what the NewWorld Order of the Pentagon from the
early nineties had in mind when itcooked up this current New World Order foreign
policy. And there was a schoolof thought that was silenced, that was
not taken seriously that maybe there mightbe a revivalism of radical Islam. And

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that's what's happening. That is absolutelywhat's happening. So there's the American foreign
policy has been a date. Itbrings to us a daisy chain of death
and destruction that led two planes crashinginto the world trade centers the Pentagon and
going down in the fields of Pennsylvania. We will have another, we will

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have another one of these if we'renot extremely careful. And I think the
toothpastes out of tube. General,I still think that coming in out of
the southern border, the eight toten million, there are divisions of military
age men who are here for jihatright. But you know, I look
at it too, and I thinkthat if you can elect somebody like Donald

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Trump, when he goes out todo treaties, when he goes out to
do agreements, he looks at itfrom a businessman's point of view, and
he understands this is not about power. This is about can I give them
something that they value in exchange forsomething that I value. That's how he
did the Abraham Accords. That's howhe did the peace in North Korea.

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He said, look, we cando things we can you can benefit and
we can benefit. And the oldway of doing it, it's like,
no, you're gonna do what wesay. And then the answer was no,
we're not. Watch this, youknow. George Kennon is oh,
yes, sorry, George Kennan hassaid, and Donald Trump is said,
and many other astute political observers,including one of my favorites, Pat Buchanan,

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that Russia has been a historic allyof America since our nation's founding until
the Cold War, a natural ally, and Russia belongs to the West commercially
as much as any other European nation, and NATO expansion to its borders is

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not worth the price of strangling itinto a war with US, like we
strangled Japan, and like the Britishstrangled Germany in World War One and again
in World War Two. People haveto remember that Russia has been invaded all
the way to the gates of Moscow, coming right out of Europe. If
we get into a civilizational war ofJudeo Christian on one side and radical fundamental

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Islam on the other, and maybeeven China if and the if they side
with the Persians, we are verymuch going to want another Christian powerful nation
like Russia on our side, acapitalist nation. And yet we have we

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are so spooked by a former KGBspook at the top of the of the
food chain of well, they lovedhim when he was part of the Communist
government, our neo cons in Congress. When when the Berlin Wall went down,
Soviet Empire fell, the military industrialcomplex was looking at being beggars.

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They need an enemy, and weturned on the Balkans, we turned on
the Middle East, and we kindof forgot about Russia, and that little
KGB agent rises to the top.He's now in power. And again,
since our country's founding, up throughWorld War Two, Russia has always been
on our ally. We fought,we fought with them. Why we are

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alienating them by pushing NATO all theway to their border is the equivalent of
Russia annexing Mexico or Iran annexing Mexicoand having that lethal existential threat at our
doorstep. Someone please explain to mewhy we are bankrupting and selling out Ukraine,

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spending billions of dollars in Ukraine.Do we really think that Vladimir Putin
is aspiring to take Poland back?We went? We almost went to nuclear
war when the Soviet has put missilesninety miles off the coast in Cuba.
Right. Meanwhile, our neo consof the nineties take the ball, you

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know, open up trade in theeighties and nineties, open up trade to
China, and as a result,we create a four hundred billion dollar trade
surplus favoring China four hundred billion,and they get our technology, They steal
our technology, they build factories,they build up a navy, They're buying

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minds all over the world for centralminerals. It's now superpower. And China
certainly has a legitimate claim to Taiwan. Why because Nixon, Ford, Carter,
Reagan, Bush, forty one Clintonall agreed that Taiwan is part of
China. There I disagree with you, go ahead. They have never had

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a legitimate claim to Taiwan. Theactual government of China fled to Taiwan and
went to this this defensible redoubt thatthe communists could not cross as they sought
to over throw the democratically elected governmentof China at the time. So this
idea that China is the legitimate governmentof Taiwan, No, Taiwan is the

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legitimate government of China. It justdoesn't have the power projection to do that.
Right now, I think that Taiwanneeds to be told that its defense
is its first and foremost responsibility.That I agree with. There are credible
position papers and reports that China,surprisingly to me, would have a very
difficult time successfully invading and occupying Taiwanthat I agree with. So as it

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relates to China and Taiwan, thatneeds to be dealt with over here.
The more immediate pressing matter right nowin the Middle East is we need to
define what is the United States foreignpolicy as it relates to the Middle East,
because there will be the equivalent ofa Pearl Harbor, there will be
equivalent of a sinking of the Lusitania. There will be something. And I

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think the Warhawks that have their warpaint face painted are waiting for that.
They're absolutely waiting for that. AndI also I am detecting a big surge
to get rid of Beabie, toget rid of Yahu in Israel. So,
anyway, after the break one moretime, let's take a look at
America's foreign policy. Is it wortha bigger discussion in twenty twenty four?

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all right, general in this finalfew minutes. Islam has survived for

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sixteen hundred years. It is theprincipal faith of almost twenty five percent of
the world's population. It is thefastest growing religion and I think it is
eclipsed Cathala as well. Not onlyis it it's not it's an ideology.
It is a religion and much ofthe Muslim world's population for the last one

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hundred years has been touched in anegative way by what they considered to be
the infidels. Our planes, ourbombs are corrupting culture, our business,
and for most of the twentieth centuryBritish, French and the Americans have been

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over there and we have created amess. And we have now a revivalism
of radical fundamental Islam, where whenI was a kid, I used to
be I used to be stunned atthe kamikaze pilots of the Japanese that they

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would actually commit suicide to take outAmerican sailors. That's what we're dealing with.
On the other side, we arenot necessarily dealing with a battle over
just land, that's part of it. We're not dealing with just a battle
over good guys versus bad guys.That's true as well. We're dealing with

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an existential war where there is alarge segment of that population that wants to
exterminate all infidels, Jews and Christians. So I think that the resurrection of
a militant Islam, and God knows, maybe God may only know how many

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true warriors Islamic warriors have come throughour southern border. How many divisions of
military age men are here lying inwait. We are hearing the drumbeat of
war from Iran, that is doingeverything can to gin up a existential war

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of Christians versus radical islam Thoughts onthis, well, I will take one
corrective statement, which is that inthe Islamic religion, they do have something
called dinma, which is that youtreat Jewish communities and Christian communities who agreed

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to live under your rule, yougive them autonomy. Yep, well that
was the Ottoman Empire for five hundredyears, right. But if they're out
there defying you, then you canput them to the sword, which is
not something that Christianity believes in.But at the same time, though a
lot of Western powers have used thosesame tactics against the people over in the

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Middle East and seen them as somesort of an infestation when they are not.
But at the same time, Ithink that we can move past all
that because we no longer have aninterest in that area of the world if
we are energy entered independent. WhenI was a boy in nineteen seventy nine,
I was eleven years old, andit was probably the first time on

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TV. I saw my first scaryworld leader. I had Tola Hamani.
You can picture him right now,right, big long white beard. I
was hooked. We have American hostages. The mighty United States of America was
being bullied by old men with longbeards and robes. Iran became the Islamic
Republic of Iran. He was thespiritual political leader. He was really kind

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of the Thomas Jefferson of Sharia lawwith theocracy and Time Magazine's Man of the
Year in nineteen seventy nine. Andthis is the guy that referred to the
United States as the Great Satan.It is to be fair to Time Magazine.
Maybe they rest in peace. Theynever said that the man of the
year had to be a good man. Correct. The military industrial complex think

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tanks, lobbyists, defense contractors,Pentagon, the politicians that get to stay
in power. From all all ofthat has decided for the rest of us
that the United States must maintain totalglobal control? General, are we way
over the tips of our skis rightnow? US military intervention is on every
continent. Have we gone way beyondthe point of simply protecting our vital interests?

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If so, why who stands togain to ask that last question,
who stands to gain is to answerit. That's the problem. There are
so many people in power right nowwho do not look at our national security
situation with the idea of what isin our national security interest. They look
at what is in the interests ofthe wealthy class, and it is in

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the interest of the wealthy class tobuild up the military and use it to
keep these bushfire wars roaring all thetime, so that you always have a
reason to say no, no,you can't criticize us right now, we're
in the middle of a war.Quick history here, the Allies and the
Central Powers could have hammered out Europediplomatically, but it was existing treaties that

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pulled Germany, Russia, France,and England into the Great War. Then
you had the Interregnum, and thenyou had the continuation of the Great World
with World War Two. After WorldWar Two, Ike Ike wanted to bring
the GIS home from Europe, didnot want continued occupation, warned us of
the military industrial poss saw us shoulderingtoo much of the burden. Jack Kennedy

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did not heed the advice of GeneralIke outgoing President Eisenhower, and to this
day, Most of Europe's defense isstill born by the United States. Too
many nations are overly dependent on theUS military. NATO was supposed to be
a temporary alliance to keep the SovietEmpire out of Europe, and the form
of our foreign policy that we are, the playbook that we're still executing,

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is from the Cold War. Andnow we've pushed the US right up to
Russia's border in Ukraine, we forcedputin closer to China and Iran. Our
vital interests of Russia and the UnitedStates, we should be allies. A
friendly Russia is far more critical toUS security than an alliance Ukraine. These

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NATO nations aren't necessarily allies general,they're dependents, And prior to nineteen forty
nine, America never had a militaryalliance that guaranteed an armed attack against one
NATO nation is attack against at all. So I really think we need to
reevaluate NATO, not just the fundingbut being in it. How is America

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strengthened by an alliance with Poland orany other Eastern or Central European country.
How is not consulting Congress and justending missiles into Middle Eastern nations like Yemen.
How does not only do the Americansnot consent to this? Tell us
how this benefits us? What isour national security here? Because the law

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of history tells us that the weekwill align with each other to create alliances
that are bigger than the empire thatit threatens. And that's the route we're
on, guys. This is theroute we're on. And I hope this
conversation gets elevated into the twenty twentyfour presidential elections before our boys and young

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women go fight someone else's bloody war.