Gail Hogan on Retirement

Gail Hogan and Mikaela talk about retirement. 

Episode Transcript

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Welcome back everyone. Sunday afternoon,real sunny outside. I said, Gail
Hogan's in for Mindy today, andI said, I'm glad you were long
sleeves though, because it's freezing inthe studio. Usually I always remember that.
Yes, it never changes. Imean, is the thought that we're
trying to keep equipment cool. Yes, that's a big part of it.
Yeah, that's what I was.I was kind of remembering that from TV
and the little bit of radio Idid prior to TV, and Gail did

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a lot of radio too. Ijust kept going back and forth radio TV,
back to radio TV because I didn'twant to move, so I had
to find other jobs in town.We would love it if you said hi
to Gail six one four eight twoone nine eight eighty six, or if
you want to call us at sixone four eight two one WTV and to
talk about retirement. If you're nearlyretired, maybe newly retired, or you've

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been retired for a while. Sometimesthere's sticky questions you might get asked.
And we were saying, over ourshow prep over email, what hot topic
do you want to talk about?And Gail brought this up. I did
because it's what I've gone through andwhat my friends are all going through right
now. And it is something tothink about because they say to me,

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who, I have been officially retiredfor a while, but I'm not,
but I'm still working part time,project based I'll call it. Why did
you want to do that? Andhow did you decide when it was time
to say to quit? That's anotherthing is when is it time to go?
Sometimes finances dictate that, of course, but other things can dictated as
well, health or whatever. Butthe questions that we get a lot of

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times are so, what are yougoing to do now? And it's my
one friend said, why do Ihave to do anything now? I've worked
a really long time, and Imay not want to do anything. But
I think the other question is ifyou're getting ready to retire, not to
just I would say quit cold turkeywithout any thought that maybe you might want

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to have something on the back burner, be it volunteer work, be it
something to give you a purpose.If you've worked for a very long time,
it is hard to just do nothingand you sit there and you wonder,
you know, I've cleaned out allmy closets and I've done all these
things and I can only spend somuch time with my grandchildren. If you
have grandchildren, how am I goingto spend my time? And so that

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is legitimate because I find that somepeople end up getting depressed. They don't
socialize like they used to because itwas easy. You went into a workplace,
which is a little different now,I think after the pandemic, not
as many people are doing that.But still you have a relationship with people
that you work with that you don'thave anymore. And so it's it's it's

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a bit of a challenge is tohow you navigate those waters, and you
know people's perspective of those waters.Not that you should care, but it
is a legitimate question sometimes is whatare you going to do? And the
answer is maybe I don't want todo anything. Maybe I want to see
what happens. So how are youguys answering this question? If you're retired
or nearly retired six one four eighteight, I would love to hear from

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some of you. Six one foureight two one WTVN. So, tell
me about your friend who's getting askedthis question. Yes, what is the
response she's been giving? Well,it's actually several friends and she just says,
well, you know, I'm justgoing to see what happens, and
I've looked into it. She's basically, I've looked into a couple of things,
but I'm not sure I'm ready todive into anything. And I think

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some have said we plan to traveland just do things like that, and
they're not giving anything specific. AndI don't think they really want to give
anything specific because they're not sure themselves. They're just getting used to this idea
of being able to wake up anytimeyou want on Monday. But then you
might think, are people judging mefor that part of that out? Yes?
And and also if you have workedsince you were sixteen years old,

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like I have, and all ofa sudden there's that retirement looming and you
are so excited about it, andthen after six months ago, well,
I've done everything I've thought I wantedto do, but I want to do
something because I'm used to doing something. But that's individual. I don't think
I could tell anybody to do whatI did and go find a part time
gig or something like that to fillup your time, or just to be

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with people. And I think sometimesthat's it, just to be with people
and that's socializing is a great thing. You live longer if you socialize,
and if that's how you choose todo it, or you go volunteer for
an organization, but not just here'sa check, but hands on where you
are, feeling what you're doing,and meeting people where they are in what

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you're doing. So, I mean, there's all kinds of alternatives and those
things I think you should think aboutbefore you're hand in that resignation. Did
you when you decided to go fullon? You know, what was the
decision maker for you? And whatdid you visualize before you went to hand
in that resignation. Yeah, Itell everybody because it happened to me,

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and I think it happens to mostpeople. You kind of know and at
some point you're like, this isit. I think my time here is
done and you feel it for whateverreason. And mine was so multifaceted that
I can't even put my finger onone thing. But I just looked around
and when it's time to go.And I've always said, in whatever job

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you're in, I want to gowhen I want to go, not when
they tell me to go. IfI have that choice, and so I
had that choice and I said,I'm going to go and I but I
was only fifty eight. Yeah,I was going to say that was years
ago. Was ten years ago.So I knew I wanted to do something
else because I was only fifty eightand I did feel like I'm not at
sixty five yet and all those things. So I went looking for something else

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to do. But I knew whatI was doing at that point, which
was Daytime Columbus, and that wasmy baby. I founded it, I
was the president. I did everything, and I think I just got tired
and said time for something new.And if I don't do it now,
I won't do anything different. Soyou've been answering the question. You kind
of had a thought of what youwanted to I did next, but not
everybody to your point has that opportunity, so you have to sometimes go seek.

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And I made that opportunity. Iwill say that. And that's the
other thing I tell people is don'tsit back and wait always for that to
come to you. Some people don'teven know you're looking, you know,
so you have to But that's all. That's also just me. I'm an
in your face type person. SometimesI just got but in a very graceful
way. I mean, I thinkif I think of you as in your

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face, it doesn't really track becauseit's you are very graceful about it.
You know. My parents retired andmoved to Saint Simon's Island, Georgia,
probably about two years ago. Now. My dad has not picked up a
job. He's teaching yoga out ofhis garage. God love him. Wow.
But I wouldn't call that a parttime job. I mean it's a

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couple times a week. And hedid that kind of that was his side
hustle that he really enjoyed in Illinois. He was a business owner, but
he did that. My mother,on the other hand, totally has been
picking up hospice hours. So shewas a chaplain when she she was a
Spanish teacher for years, went backto school, became a chaplain probably around
fifty eight fifty nine, and andshe's now in her early seventies. And

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when they moved to Saint Simon's,she's the one getting out and working with
some of these companies and volunteering similarkind of like Dan, you know,
go where you're where you're needed,right, you know, if they don't
have and you can say no,correct. She can say no, But
I think she feels she was justhere for Logan's confirmation. He just got
confirmed last week. And she's happyand because she is meeting people, and

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I will say she is thriving.My dad is building some big shed.
I mean that is his version.But I think I think he needs to
get out and I think he needsto find a little jobby job. Can
I just say that it's harder formen. We women naturally will meet each
other. That's just a natural womanthing. And he used to go,

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are you going out to see somebodyagain? Yes, and it's not somebody,
it's a girlfriend. It's no.That's what we do. We talk,
We get together and chat and that'swhat we do for each other.
Men don't do that. And whenhe retired, I said, you need
to find a way to go outwith the guys. Well, I golf,
I go, but you don't talkabout anything. He goes, Yeah,

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we do. We talk about golf. I don't understand why guys when
they're golfing don't talk about other thingsother than golf. I think it would
be natural to do that, don'the goes. He tells his friends,
Now, give me a little tidbitbecause Gail's gonna ask me something and I
have to bring home some news.But one of his friends, a person
I would least expect of it,has set aside one day a week at

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four o'clock in the afternoon. Theymeeted his house, a bunch of guy
whoever can come. Some days it'sthree people, some days at six.
But it's all mutual friends. Ilove that, and it's just for two
hours. Usually he brings his coolerwith two beers. The guy doesn't anything,
Yeah, usually a bag a baggage. That's such a dude thing.

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Anything he's single. You can tellhe's just a bag of chips. You
bring your own. But the ideathat he had this, I thought it
was marvelous because you men need todo it, but they don't know how.
So you guys take some advice.If this is if this is in
your life, set something up atyour house. Whoever wants to show up
can show up on that day ofthe nas bag of chips, I'm telling

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me, I mean, that's it. All of that in a bag of
chips, that's it. It reallyis so great to have Gail Hogan on
with us this afternoon. I'm soglad you're here. Thank you, thanks
for the inviting Gil. Oh,it's good to see you. Yes,
And Gail has this energy and Ithink I've told her this before, but
you're not going to remember. Gailreminds me of my aunt Mickey. If
she can meet my aunt Mickey,like she's my aunt Mickey, and so
it's like it feels familial when Gail'saround. So I love having her.

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I'm the weller sisters, like andyou have do you have two sisters?
Three sisters? There's five of us. There's just like my mom and her
crew. And then I have abrother and you have a brother, and
my mom has one brother and thereare four girls. So it's very similar.
I don't know. So Gail's withus, We're so excited. Coming
up next, we're going to talkto Brian Hess with Tattletale sortable alarm Systems,

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and we're to talk about your safety, your protection and also really good
customer service. What does that looklike in your life and what should you
require when you buy a product.This is six ten WTVN