May 17, 2024 • 37 mins
The No. 1 golfer in the world, Scottie Scheffler gets arrested at the PGA Championship in Valhalla. Teams will likely limit information they give Tom Brady because of his relationship with the Raiders. Dabo gets real about player in the transfer portal. Plus, Over/Unders.
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matter what sport you play, oh, you deserve center stage.
And so with that we go to Eddie, Garcia with
some breaking.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, guys, the second round of the PGA Championship there
at Valhalla has been delayed. Apparently there are a few
things going on with the golf tournament. First off, there
was apparently a vehicle pedestrian fatality at the near the
entrance of the event there, which is backed up traffic
and caused a bit of a problem. Now as a
(01:58):
result of that, they were limiting the number of vehicles
that were actually being able to go into the golf course.
Apparently it was for the players and for officials and
things like that. They weren't letting any pedestrians in. But
it looks like there might have been a misunderstanding between
the police and the world's number one rank golfer, Scottie Scheffler.
The story is being reported that he tried to drive
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around either a car or a barricade to get into
the tournament. The police officer that was there, I guess,
directing traffic or trying to regulate the traffic did not
appreciate him trying to go around the area, stopped the car,
took Scheffler out, handcuffed him, and put him in the
back of a squad car.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
World's number one ranked player may have been arrested. At
least he's been detained. And this again this event, the
PGA Championship second round is being delayed. Whether Scotty Scheffler
will be a part of it when the second round
starts remains to be seen. But that is the breaking
news from golf in the PGA Championship this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Equal, you've been doing radio a long time, have you
ever done breaking news of a golfer getting detained by
police for a traffic violation on the way to a
golf going and to the tournament they're playing in.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, that would be a first, that would be the
first time I've.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
By the way, Scotty Scheffler tied for twelve at minus
four under. The interesting thing is, is there a chance
that that cop just has happens to be good friends.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
With Justin Thomas. Okay, maybe he's.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Trying to help help out and not allow the number
one player in the world to h to make his
way through this tournament win another one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, you know what's a shame. Jeff Darlington is
the guy who's all over this right now, and so
they rush him through the rain to get up to
the desk on ESPN and he's got to sit up
there when all he really wants to do is just
be like, look, can I have some fun with this
conversation about this guy getting thrown against a police car.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And realize to what is going on?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And I just feel like if we had some sort
of a connection to Jeff Darlington or somebody who I
don't know, spent like, you know, one or two Saint
Patty's days with him, you know, I feel like we
could have Jeff on the show and kind of get
to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Or we could bring on another personality, you know, another talent.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I do wonder, like, think about this.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
This is not an issue for football players because you
travel on a team bus, right, This is not an
issue for you know, other athletes for that reason.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
It's kind of weird that he's driving himself to the tournament.
Is he supposed to go.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
It's a byproduct of again, they they you know, have
to get themselves to the course, staying in Airbnb, They're
staying in a hotel. Sometimes they stay on property depending
on what that golf course has as far as accommodations.
So that becomes part of it too. Like this is
the number one player in the world, You're going through
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a big time battle with a live tour. I am
sure not that Scotty Scheffler would go. I don't think
there's I don't think he's gonna sign over.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The live tour.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But if there's one player right now that would be
like the Achilles Heel that would end this whole thing
between live and PGA Tour and force the PGA Tour
to make a deal. You could say Tiger and Rory,
maybe you'd be right, but I think Scotty Scheffler would
be the one that would really really hurt the PGA
Tour the most, given his age, given his success. And
(05:32):
yet this guy is getting arrested outside of the PGA
Championship at tied for twelfth, by the way, and like
that's how he's getting there, Like you don't have someone
corresponding with local police to look out for these guys
to help them get to.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
The golf course. It's just incredibly disorganized and disappointed.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That is kind of odd, you know. So I'm sure
they live is like, hey, man, don't worry about it.
You don't have to worry about that with us, Like
we'll get you to and from the player. They're still
doing three days they're to.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Be playing in Bangladesh. Yeah, they're playing three days. Yeah,
it might be playing in Bangladesh, but at least you're
flying private there with the rest of their guys. They're
not kind of an issue.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean, would you rather go to Bangladesh on
a PJ or go to Valhalla and a Honda Civic,
you know, Like, I mean, these are fair questions to
be asked. And if I'm Scotti Scheffler, I'm like, I'm sorry, guys,
I can't deal with this anymore. Done everything I wanted
to do on the tour, and I don't feel like
being assaulted by cops because I'm trying to get to
someplace on time. You know, I just think that's I
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think that's fair.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So that is imagine any other professional sport like John
Carlos Stanton gets arrested going to the ballpark because right,
you know, he was trying to get past a.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
You know, a bunch of traffic.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's just it's it's when when you hear about it,
you're like, well, how is this even a possibility in
front of these players?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Surprising.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So when the Rams first got out here to southern California,
because they were based in Thousand Oaks, there was times
to where they would get on the team bus and
they would get a full on what do they call it,
not a caravan, but like what's the police escort? They
would get that, yeah, all the way to the airport.
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So if it was in the middle of traffic, like
two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon, cops would stop traffic,
didn't matter what day it was, to make sure the
Rams got to the airport without any incident and just
kind of cleared the way for them to get all
the way to Lax and be able to get.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Out of town.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Scottie Scheffler's got to deal with this crap. This has
got this.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I mean, you would assume for as long as the
PGA has been going, there would be proper protocols at
each course for if something were to take place. You
got to make sure that the golfers are able to
get to where they're going. I mean, ultimately, everything that's
going on is based upon those participants. Like yeah, I mean,
(07:51):
like you're standing out here right now, detaining the very
reason why you're out here standing here. Maybe that's why
he's Maybe that's why he put the cups on.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I don't feel like he's got an eight am time.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Do you think we can get him out of the
squad car? You can get those cuffs off of his wrist.
You know, the damn favorite going to go in the
end of the tournament. He was the favorite by a
pretty decent margin, and he gets detained by cops and
thrown against the car.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well that's uh, listen. You can get something new every
day here. So there's there it is. There's the update
on the PGA Championship from that, it's.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
It's delayed, so we might not get a little action
from live bed Jesus.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Last time, by the way, he ventured into golf did
not work out well for him.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Hang, I don't I mean, I don't get it. I
really don't like it's hard.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Now, clearly you were live bet Jesus does not get.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Called now listen, I'm not going to sit here and
try and answer for his struggles when it comes to
golf or predicting what's going to happen in a golf match, or.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
But it's like he's consistent.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
When he says he's going to show up, he shows up,
and guys like you and LeVar and that hooligan Lee
all you do is disrespect him on the air and
then wonder why doesn't he come back for more?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I don't know, like like like why do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, he's abused by you guys, and then decides
he doesn't want to show up, and then you ask, well,
what happened here?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
If there's anything like you, he's a glutton for punishment,
so we'll come back.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think it's I think it's pretty insulting. So we're
not gonna have Jeff Darlington on. Apparently we're not gonna
have live at Jesus.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Do you want to.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Can he really do that?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I don't know. He probably would Let me ask him.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Let me ask him, sweet, let's call him, you know
him put it up to the microphone.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Just just call right now, just see what he does.
I asked him if he got banged up last night
in Louisville.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Before the I can already tell you that's yes.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
We we all know just by seeing him on TV
when he when he got bagged up the night before,
we got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So, speaking of a broadcasts good of other broadcasters, Tom
Brady apparently all systems go for him to broadcast this
upcoming season and no limitations on games he can work
despite trying to buy a piece of the Raiders. They said,
look as it stands right now, it's still you know,
(10:18):
this is still in the process of it happening, but
it's not a finalized deal. So he's good to go
and do whatever he wants. Here's my question for you guys,
because you've actually called games. If because in my mind,
the conflict of interest and why this might be a
problem is not so much for him calling the actual
game while it's being televised or being broadcast. It's the
(10:41):
meetings that he would have with other teams leading up
to the game. Can he effectively do his job If
the NFL stepped in and said it's fine, you just
can't be in those pregame meetings with anybody else inside
the AFC West. Would he be affect in his job
if he wasn't a part of those pregame meetings because
(11:04):
the NFL was like, that's where we feel like there
might be a conflict of interest. You're part owner of
a team talking with other teams in your division about
happenings inside their own locker room. Do you think that
would be he would be able to pull that off.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I mean, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I would think if I was any team within the division,
or even any team if you're playing the Raiders, he's
calling that game, you're not gonna be able to tell
him everything. He's gonna be even if he's a minority owner.
He's gonna have access to information sources, and there's no
way a team that's playing them would risk any of
(11:42):
that stuff getting out. So you can say he'll be professional,
that's all conduct himself. But he's an owner, Like if
he gets in as a minority owner of the Las
Vegas Raiders, it's not a move just to be a
minority owner. He wants to eventually become the majority owner
of an NFL friend, and I got to tell you too,
(12:03):
I don't want to say that there's like a competition
to do so, because there was always some rumors, right
like Peyton was a I think part of a group
that was looking at trying to get an ownership stake.
I don't know if it was Denver or somewhere else,
but you know, there's kind of that competition too. I
think even still probably amongst Tom Brady and Peyton Manning,
where they're still trying to compete off the field, and
(12:23):
there might be an idea of first guy to get
a you know, to own a team majority owner of
a team. So I just I look at and think,
there is no way you would be able to do
your job effectively the way it's supposed to be done
at least and knowing that those sorts of thoughts would
(12:45):
be in the minds of the people that you'd be
meeting with, whether you're playing the Raiders or a divisional opponent,
whatever the case may be, you know, that would be
a big hurdle I think for a lot of teams
who would be trying to meet with them during there's
production meetings.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So the fact that these things are taking place I mean,
it hasn't happened yet, but you'd have to assume that
they're still going to look at it the same exact
way as if he already had ownership. Why would you like,
you have to assume the rules of engagement are the same.
I'm going to limit Tom Brady and what information we're
(13:24):
you know, allowing for him to ascertain from from the
conversations just based upon what we're discussing right now. Wouldn't
that be logical? So if that's the logic behind it,
how is he able to effectively do his job?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So the fact that he's already this far down the
road on it still would be compromised, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, why would I risk that? If I'm a
franchise and I know that this can directly impact our
franchise moving forward? Why would I? Why would I handle
it any differently? So then why is it happening? It's
a great question that I mean, doesn't that lead to that?
Isn't that the natural next question? Like Tom? If you
(14:05):
want to be into booth, you do understand generally we're
not having this conversation with any talent that is going
to be calling games, but you are a unique situation here,
and you know we have to have that conversation. There
might be a different capacity of what it is that
(14:25):
you're doing connected to being a part of the game
and giving your takes and your information. It just might
not be to this capacity. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I'll look at it from this perspective.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I never felt like there's necessarily a conflict of interest
when I was winning production meetings playing in the NFL.
But in college, Pat Hayden was not only had close
ties with Southern Cow, but he became their athletic director.
Like he went from broadcasting NBC Sports like Notre Dame
games to become their athletic director. And so I mean
(15:02):
we knew going into a lot of those meetings that
he's probably gathering stuff and whether or not. And I
know some people think all your question is integrity. You're
quite Look, he's doing a job for NBC Sports, but
he immediately comes to the athletic director. You don't think
he had some casual conversations with folks at Southern cal.
I mean we were always guarded about it in college.
There's not really much you can do, but you know,
(15:25):
we wouldn't say a whole lot of anything. We limited
his access to practice, and we were told strictly beforehand,
you know that just stick with the company line. If
they asked, you know, whatever questions, they just you know,
move on, be short, you know, don't don't try to
give any further detail.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Don't make sure you don't leave anything.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
In that room the production meetings in so, like, I've
kind of been through it before in a way, and
so I can promise you, I mean, because that was
what Charlie Weis's a guy whould come from the NFL
level and understood like how much information mattered at that
level and how you know, teams handles things erasing every
(16:06):
single dry erase board, you know, pausing and not making
sure any of the staff at the hotel would come through,
you know, any time we're like nope, yep, we're not
gonna talk. We're not gonna go over what we're doing schematically,
I mean, all those things. So I just I think
it's interesting that it's it's obviously being brought up because
it clearly is a conflict of interest, But if you're
getting paid what he's getting paid, I mean, I don't
(16:28):
think it's unreasonable Someone's like, hey, you gotta kind of
gotta pick. And I think if Tom Brady had to
pick once he got approved, he probably picked the way
of being a minority owner.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's just a new day and age. These days, you
don't have to pick anymore. You know, you're.
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Speaking more current events.
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Wow, wow, all right, wow, Hey, you asked for it.
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Speaker 7 (18:08):
Laid back with my mind, all my money and my
money on my mind. Lee's a gin guy. You ever
go gin and juice? Like? Do you ever? Is that
ever something you do? Or you just tangle Ray Jen
King Gray? Yeah, I've done gen and juice before.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Definitely do and juice, but it's more of like a
house party kind of concoction, like a jungle juice thing.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
You can't find you, you can't find dang, what what do.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
You feel right at home?
Speaker 12 (18:34):
Talking about that?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To be careful my guys around you're talking like that,
but you.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
Can't find g and juice on the on the contail man, Yeah,
what's he referring to? Johnson listening to that jungle music?
Oh no, drinking that jungle.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Drinking that jungle juice what don't you come back around.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You?
Speaker 9 (19:06):
You can't live here no more? Lee Ah, I mean
said it.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean it was an easy leg up. So what
kind of juice goes in gin? And juice? Orange juice?
It has to be orange, got to be orange juice.
That's that's that sounds discussed. That's the base.
Speaker 12 (19:31):
But you can get a bunch of different juices and
put them together.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, well I'm just telling you them pine cones, you
put that in a different juice. I'd love to hear
what apple juice?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
And and and.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What is a pine cone? That's that's that? That that gin?
Pine cones? Brou It tastes like the smell of of
an evergreen tree, right?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Gin does?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes? Tanger ray for certain Well.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
It's juniper berries, which juniper berries?
Speaker 11 (20:08):
Uh, sometimes sometimes we're associated with Christmas.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
No, juniper berries. That's what makes up gin.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
That's the red berries, man? Is that the little red berries?
Speaker 12 (20:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
I mean that was on and that was on Christmas tree.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
The red berries Jennifer how they would be?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah, that's why we know about them.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
That's why they're from the jungle. Dan Brady, your thoughts
o that.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Uh I thought gin was grain based.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, not wheat or made from wheat or barley.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
I don't believe to know. Well, it's always juniper is
always part of gin. And I'm not sure about the
wheat barley part.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I think you need to fact check that pal.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's herbal, it's also an alcohol.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Yes, what do you think the chances are.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's kind of wheat and barley. It is piny I
told you, I mean, why would it not? What you
mean it is that they.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Add probably juniper berries to it, but it has to
be distilled from wheater barley.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
Okay, yeah, all right, have you have you fact checking?
Speaker 5 (21:32):
You looked this up.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
I'm looking it up and hm hmm.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Well, I'm not sure about the wheat barley part yet,
but uh the I do know that gin is primarily
it's not considered gin unless it has juniper berries.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I understood there's there's juniper berries, there's probably water.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I would imagine though they're distilling it from a wheaton barley.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
If I had to bet.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay, listen, I just I just want some clarification on
what jungle juices. That's all I'm looking for, and gin
and orange juice sounds revaulting.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Well it is.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
Yeah, it is grain based.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
You're right.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Alcohol, Yeah, of course, I mean I was just saying
what distilled, what distincts it from other alcohol?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
That's all, gotcha. Huh Hey, listen to the blackberries.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Huh yeah, yeah, make sure them blackberries is up in there.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Those are all id you what you mean? That's what
Lee said.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I thought they were red, said they were from the
Christmas tree.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You think they were cherry red? As are cherry red?
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All right, so we do have some over unders coming
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up here a little over fifteen minutes from now from
the tairaq dot com studios. But Daboswiney, the head coach
of Clemson, he just decided, all right, I'm gonna go
ahead and clear some things up here.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
And he was on serious.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
XMS Clemson Central, and he had some thoughts about something
I don't know about you, guys, I'm a little fatigued
with I've got portal fatigue because it seems like it
pops up every week or so. Dabo Swinny decided to
break down different types of players and how they apply
them to the portal.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
There's three types of players in the portal. Well, most
of the guys in the portal aren't good enough to
play for us. Yeah, you know, that's just that's just
the reality of it. I mean, we have guys that
are backups at Clemson that go in the portal because
they just want to have an opportunity. And most of
them are graduates, by the way, But we have guys
that are backups or you know, they want a chance
to go play. And I got no problem with that,
(23:51):
and so rarely do we have a starter or leave Clemson.
You've got the majority of the guys, they're guys that
are in the portal because they want to have a
chance to go start somewhere. They're not playing where they are.
They're not good enough to come in and play for us,
and so we'd rather take a good high school player
as long as we can get them at which we do,
(24:12):
and you develop them. That's the first second type of
guy that goes in the portal is he's only going
in the portal as a formality because the deal has
already been done. He knows where he's going before he
ever goes in the portal. So when I get that
guy and then the third type of guys going in
the portal just to see what he can get, and
(24:33):
we're never going to win that war. So you know,
we've been really fortunate because first of all, we were established,
been there sixteen years, and we don't have a lot
of attrition. I mean, we had one hundred and twenty
seven guys go through spring ball and one hundred and
twenty five or sell on the roster, you know, after
spring post portal closing. So that's a miracle in today's world. Technically,
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everybody that we sign as a transfer, everybody, just the
kids that we've signed this year, we're all transferred fro
High schoo all right. You know there's a lot of
people that talk about that, but we just do what
we think is best for Clemson.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's Davos Swiney, Clemson head coach. You guys are more
portled up than I am, So go ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Anything that was inaccurate.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
No I did not. No I did not.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The guys that don't have anything already figured out, they're
not good enough. That's why they're leaving where they're at.
They're not good enough. And generally they're not going to
be good enough to transfer and be that player at
a top power five major program. That's just that's that's factual,
And if they are good enough, it is a formality
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those conversations. The deal has already been made one hundred percent. So,
and if you are starting out of school like Clemson.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
You're not leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The only way you're leaving is if you're going home
because your grades are bad, or if you're going to
the pros. That's the only way you're leaving if you're
starting out a place like Clemson.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So I think the other perspective to that point is
this is how you should build your roster in college football.
This is no different than us looking at an NFL
roster and saying they build through the draft, like that's
how this works, that's how it should work in theory.
I mean, if you're an NFL team, you're trying to
flip your roster and go on in free agency. How
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many times we say teams that won the offseason that
never actually win when it comes to the regular season.
We say that all the time in the NFL, and
it's no different when it comes to college football.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
To all the.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Points LeVar just made, like any or even Dabo Sweeney making, like,
if a kid's looking to transfer, he's probably not good
enough in the start at the place he initially went to.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And there's no point in trying.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
To go after a guy when they put their name
in the portal because a lot oftentimes that deal's already done.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
It's got to do not contact on there, and.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
That means that they've already there's already been an agent
who's negotiated to deal with another school. And then finally
there's the third type that is just trying to get
up a bidding war to see what their market value is,
which you know that player is probably not bought in
to what Clemson's offering. So I would I would caution
any school if you're just trying to build through the
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portal that is not sustainable. One and two, you're not
getting the best players. You're not getting the best players
out of high school that will eventually develop to be
those first round picks the five star, four star guys
like that, and there's callous examples of that. So we'll
see how nil the transfer portal, everything that's transpiring college
(27:46):
football sorts itself out over the next few years. But
I think you'll look back on some of the programs
that were very adamant about their approach to this, Clemson
in particular, and I think history will look act kindly
on them and say, like, you know, they kind of
weather the storm of adversity and through all this chaos.
But that was a program that they base things off
(28:08):
their high school recruitment development and then they you know,
decided not to really hit anything in the transfer portal.
That's the un prerogative, and I think they'll continue to
still be successful. Other programs might sprinkle in some and
that's fine too, because that's a you know, an opportunity
you have to get make your roster better, make your
team better. But this spring window, in particular, this second window,
(28:32):
like like we saw, if you're trying to rely on that,
you're not getting anyone who's really going to come in
and drastically change the outcome of what your season may be.
I mean, the only window that really matters is the
one after the season. That's where you get guys who
potentially are looking at trying to jump ship, go somewhere else,
or you know, make more money in NIL. Then you
(28:52):
might get some opportunity there. But this spring window, the
most recent one, that's that's more depth for your roster
more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
When Deon Sanders a couple of weeks ago, I think
it was, was talking with media and Boulder and they
were talking about all the transfers and guys leaving, and
he basically said, and these are backups, like it was
something along those words where he said, these are guys
that weren't going to be starting here anyways, and the
media was trying to challenge him or question him on it.
Like some people had pushed back because they were like, well,
(29:23):
you know, it's I mean, you know, it's kind of
disrespectful maybe the way he's talking about these players, But
I kind of get from a coach's standpoint that if
a guy's going to use me and my program to
create either a bidding war or to try and use
me as a as a launching point to get to
someplace else, and he's not getting any playing time here,
(29:45):
I've got to represent the program and let people know, like, hey,
just because we're losing these players, the optics from people
not in the know may may look bad, like, hey,
everybody's leaving, but these are guys that aren't going to
be playing.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's correct, Jonas, that's a correct. Yes, that's the correct.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
But like when people get upset about that, I'm to.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Get upset at Deon Sanders stating the obvious. They're leaving there.
Dabbo just said it. They're leaving for a couple reasons.
The first reason, he's basically saying, this is the reason
why are these guys at Colorado are leaving. They're not
good enough to play here. They're backups. Like I'm just
explaining to you who they are. We're not losing starters,
(30:24):
we're losing backups. So if he's stating it that way,
there shouldn't be any outrage about it. I mean, it's
not like he's being crasp about how he's approaching it,
and it's just basically telling you what it is. And
that's most likely, more than often the reason why guys
are going into the transfer portal unless they have created
(30:48):
like you said.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
And then there's the there's the there's those.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Outliers where like a Caleb Williams, right, his coach left
went to a different school. He followed the coach like,
that's that's that's like one of those one times where
you're like, you know what, that makes a lot of
sense that a guy that good would leave and go.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
That makes sense. But for the most part, be clear,
if you're.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Going to Colorado as a transfer that went into the portal,
chances are you already knew you were going to Colorado
to play for Colorado. And the kids that are leaving,
they're leaving because chances are they know they're never going
to get on the field as to the capacity that
(31:31):
they intended to get on the feel that, and so
now they're looking for a different place to land where
they may have that opportunity. Generally is not going to
be on the same level as the school you're leaving.
Just generally doesn't work that way. People don't like the
reality of it. People don't like hearing that though. Oh well,
but here we are with the college.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
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Speaker 2 (32:50):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I have been losing you know you're alion low life.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Camlay General it's over under all right, lead to ap.
How bad was the beating I handed out last week?
Speaker 11 (33:03):
It was pretty handed. It was pretty heavy handed there, Jonas.
We'll just start off with the You know, the Pacers
were complaining about the foul calls last week, so we
had asked with the Knicks how much would the Knicks
get fouled more than the Pacers or how many how
many times would they be called and we had it
at five and a half. In fact, the Pacers still
got called for more fouls during that during that game,
(33:25):
twenty to eighteen. So LeVar actually took the under the
first round. We had sweeps in the NBA last weekend, it.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Was the under.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Note there was no sweeps in the semis, so both
of you took the under on that one. Good job
by you guys. Same goes for the NHL playoffs. Would
we have a suite between the Rangers and the Hurricanes.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
It was hit. It did hit the under. Jonas hit
that one.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Lastly, we had the BattleHawks versus the Stallions. Jonas correctly
took the over Birmingham Stallions beating Battle.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I didn't care about that gang, right, you did say, really, Master.
Speaker 12 (34:00):
Yeah, that is a good I have right here.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
When we reached out for the entire day.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
And flight delays for Brady, he did hit the over
Good job there, Brady helping Jonas take a demanding lead
for one to Levar's two and three.
Speaker 12 (34:15):
Yeah, should say and two.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
What exactly do you mean earlier this week or last week?
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Last weekend?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Oh, last Friday?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Oh no, I didn't have any delays. Then I had
delays on the Monday tuesdays this week.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Oh wow, that's what I meant.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
That's gonna be Uh, it's gonna shake things.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Zero delays.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Good jobs last Friday. That's on Cannons.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It was Monday Tuesday this week.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
So I don't know if that changes anything, Lee, but
if it does, let drop kid.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
Jonahs still ekes out a wind. Yeah, just barely, just barely, think.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Daddy, I thought it was commanding. Which one is it?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:52):
Well it was commanding.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Okay, Lee, what do we got this week?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
This week?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
We got it? Must have been manufacturer with Black Bay.
That's that's how you got that.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
And you know they kind of look blue before they
go through the process. Just okay, just to make sure we're.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
All on the up and up, there some sometimes you know,
black is compared to blue.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Black and blue Fellows. BJ Championship.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
We're gonna start over unders this week fellows, We've got
PG Championship. What does Scotti Scheffler shooting round two seventy
and a half.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
I'm gonna go shoot anything. I'm gonna take the under.
I'm gonna go over.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It's hard to swing a club with handcuffs one, so
that's over.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
I'll take it over on that.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I think he'll be under that, he'll be four or
five hour.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
I like it, guys.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
The Preakness this weekend winning margin for the winning horse
one and a half lengths over.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Very Bafford's horse is out though, right.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yes, I saw that. Let's take the under.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I hope it's the under.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
By the way that Baffert's horses out because what he
got a fever?
Speaker 12 (36:03):
Yeah, spiking a fever?
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Grow up, all right, that's not a real athlete. What
else we got?
Speaker 11 (36:08):
We we have Tyson Fury versus Alexander Usik this weekend
rounds ten and a half over.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Over take the under.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
M Okay, guys, Game sevens we get in the NBA
Semis over under one and a half.
Speaker 12 (36:25):
We already know we have one over three game sevens.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Oh, I don't about that, but I'll stay over.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
I'll take the under.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
I didn't even hear the question, man, And we have
three game six is so to go in the NHL?
Do we get over under? On game sevens? We get
one and a half over?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Wait, I say that again.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
We have three game sixes. We've got two today, one tomorrow.
Game sevens. We get in these semis one and a
half for the NHL, for the NHL.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Yeah, we just do this.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
About to say, I would think of the same thing.
I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Uh, I'm hoping the over.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
And that's over unders baby. See it's all right. Well
take a quick break very efficiently. Good good job, Lee,
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the most relatable athlete on planet Earth and does so
in such a way on a football Friday, it doesn't
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matter what sport you play, oh, you deserve center stage.
And so with that we go to Eddie, Garcia with
some breaking.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, guys, the second round of the PGA Championship there
at Valhalla has been delayed. Apparently there are a few
things going on with the golf tournament. First off, there
was apparently a vehicle pedestrian fatality at the near the
entrance of the event there, which is backed up traffic
and caused a bit of a problem. Now as a
(01:58):
result of that, they were limiting the number of vehicles
that were actually being able to go into the golf course.
Apparently it was for the players and for officials and
things like that. They weren't letting any pedestrians in. But
it looks like there might have been a misunderstanding between
the police and the world's number one rank golfer, Scottie Scheffler.
The story is being reported that he tried to drive
(02:19):
around either a car or a barricade to get into
the tournament. The police officer that was there, I guess,
directing traffic or trying to regulate the traffic did not
appreciate him trying to go around the area, stopped the car,
took Scheffler out, handcuffed him, and put him in the
back of a squad car.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
World's number one ranked player may have been arrested. At
least he's been detained. And this again this event, the
PGA Championship second round is being delayed. Whether Scotty Scheffler
will be a part of it when the second round
starts remains to be seen. But that is the breaking
news from golf in the PGA Championship this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Equal, you've been doing radio a long time, have you
ever done breaking news of a golfer getting detained by
police for a traffic violation on the way to a
golf going and to the tournament they're playing in.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, that would be a first, that would be the
first time I've.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
By the way, Scotty Scheffler tied for twelve at minus
four under. The interesting thing is, is there a chance
that that cop just has happens to be good friends.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
With Justin Thomas. Okay, maybe he's.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Trying to help help out and not allow the number
one player in the world to h to make his
way through this tournament win another one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, you know what's a shame. Jeff Darlington is
the guy who's all over this right now, and so
they rush him through the rain to get up to
the desk on ESPN and he's got to sit up
there when all he really wants to do is just
be like, look, can I have some fun with this
conversation about this guy getting thrown against a police car.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And realize to what is going on?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And I just feel like if we had some sort
of a connection to Jeff Darlington or somebody who I
don't know, spent like, you know, one or two Saint
Patty's days with him, you know, I feel like we
could have Jeff on the show and kind of get
to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Or we could bring on another personality, you know, another talent.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I do wonder, like, think about this.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
This is not an issue for football players because you
travel on a team bus, right, This is not an
issue for you know, other athletes for that reason.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
It's kind of weird that he's driving himself to the tournament.
Is he supposed to go.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
It's a byproduct of again, they they you know, have
to get themselves to the course, staying in Airbnb, They're
staying in a hotel. Sometimes they stay on property depending
on what that golf course has as far as accommodations.
So that becomes part of it too. Like this is
the number one player in the world, You're going through
(05:01):
a big time battle with a live tour. I am
sure not that Scotty Scheffler would go. I don't think
there's I don't think he's gonna sign over.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The live tour.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But if there's one player right now that would be
like the Achilles Heel that would end this whole thing
between live and PGA Tour and force the PGA Tour
to make a deal. You could say Tiger and Rory,
maybe you'd be right, but I think Scotty Scheffler would
be the one that would really really hurt the PGA
Tour the most, given his age, given his success. And
(05:32):
yet this guy is getting arrested outside of the PGA
Championship at tied for twelfth, by the way, and like
that's how he's getting there, Like you don't have someone
corresponding with local police to look out for these guys
to help them get to.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
The golf course. It's just incredibly disorganized and disappointed.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That is kind of odd, you know. So I'm sure
they live is like, hey, man, don't worry about it.
You don't have to worry about that with us, Like
we'll get you to and from the player. They're still
doing three days they're to.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Be playing in Bangladesh. Yeah, they're playing three days. Yeah,
it might be playing in Bangladesh, but at least you're
flying private there with the rest of their guys. They're
not kind of an issue.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean, would you rather go to Bangladesh on
a PJ or go to Valhalla and a Honda Civic,
you know, Like, I mean, these are fair questions to
be asked. And if I'm Scotti Scheffler, I'm like, I'm sorry, guys,
I can't deal with this anymore. Done everything I wanted
to do on the tour, and I don't feel like
being assaulted by cops because I'm trying to get to
someplace on time. You know, I just think that's I
(06:30):
think that's fair.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So that is imagine any other professional sport like John
Carlos Stanton gets arrested going to the ballpark because right,
you know, he was trying to get past a.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
You know, a bunch of traffic.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's just it's it's when when you hear about it,
you're like, well, how is this even a possibility in
front of these players?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Surprising.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So when the Rams first got out here to southern California,
because they were based in Thousand Oaks, there was times
to where they would get on the team bus and
they would get a full on what do they call it,
not a caravan, but like what's the police escort? They
would get that, yeah, all the way to the airport.
(07:10):
So if it was in the middle of traffic, like
two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon, cops would stop traffic,
didn't matter what day it was, to make sure the
Rams got to the airport without any incident and just
kind of cleared the way for them to get all
the way to Lax and be able to get.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Out of town.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Scottie Scheffler's got to deal with this crap. This has
got this.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I mean, you would assume for as long as the
PGA has been going, there would be proper protocols at
each course for if something were to take place. You
got to make sure that the golfers are able to
get to where they're going. I mean, ultimately, everything that's
going on is based upon those participants. Like yeah, I mean,
(07:51):
like you're standing out here right now, detaining the very
reason why you're out here standing here. Maybe that's why
he's Maybe that's why he put the cups on.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I don't feel like he's got an eight am time.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Do you think we can get him out of the
squad car? You can get those cuffs off of his wrist.
You know, the damn favorite going to go in the
end of the tournament. He was the favorite by a
pretty decent margin, and he gets detained by cops and
thrown against the car.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well that's uh, listen. You can get something new every
day here. So there's there it is. There's the update
on the PGA Championship from that, it's.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
It's delayed, so we might not get a little action
from live bed Jesus.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Last time, by the way, he ventured into golf did
not work out well for him.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Hang, I don't I mean, I don't get it. I
really don't like it's hard.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Now, clearly you were live bet Jesus does not get.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Called now listen, I'm not going to sit here and
try and answer for his struggles when it comes to
golf or predicting what's going to happen in a golf match, or.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
But it's like he's consistent.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
When he says he's going to show up, he shows up,
and guys like you and LeVar and that hooligan Lee
all you do is disrespect him on the air and
then wonder why doesn't he come back for more?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I don't know, like like like why do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, he's abused by you guys, and then decides
he doesn't want to show up, and then you ask, well,
what happened here?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
If there's anything like you, he's a glutton for punishment,
so we'll come back.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think it's I think it's pretty insulting. So we're
not gonna have Jeff Darlington on. Apparently we're not gonna
have live at Jesus.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Do you want to.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Can he really do that?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I don't know. He probably would Let me ask him.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Let me ask him, sweet, let's call him, you know
him put it up to the microphone.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Just just call right now, just see what he does.
I asked him if he got banged up last night
in Louisville.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Before the I can already tell you that's yes.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
We we all know just by seeing him on TV
when he when he got bagged up the night before,
we got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So, speaking of a broadcasts good of other broadcasters, Tom
Brady apparently all systems go for him to broadcast this
upcoming season and no limitations on games he can work
despite trying to buy a piece of the Raiders. They said,
look as it stands right now, it's still you know,
(10:18):
this is still in the process of it happening, but
it's not a finalized deal. So he's good to go
and do whatever he wants. Here's my question for you guys,
because you've actually called games. If because in my mind,
the conflict of interest and why this might be a
problem is not so much for him calling the actual
game while it's being televised or being broadcast. It's the
(10:41):
meetings that he would have with other teams leading up
to the game. Can he effectively do his job If
the NFL stepped in and said it's fine, you just
can't be in those pregame meetings with anybody else inside
the AFC West. Would he be affect in his job
if he wasn't a part of those pregame meetings because
(11:04):
the NFL was like, that's where we feel like there
might be a conflict of interest. You're part owner of
a team talking with other teams in your division about
happenings inside their own locker room. Do you think that
would be he would be able to pull that off.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I mean, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I would think if I was any team within the division,
or even any team if you're playing the Raiders, he's
calling that game, you're not gonna be able to tell
him everything. He's gonna be even if he's a minority owner.
He's gonna have access to information sources, and there's no
way a team that's playing them would risk any of
(11:42):
that stuff getting out. So you can say he'll be professional,
that's all conduct himself. But he's an owner, Like if
he gets in as a minority owner of the Las
Vegas Raiders, it's not a move just to be a
minority owner. He wants to eventually become the majority owner
of an NFL friend, and I got to tell you too,
(12:03):
I don't want to say that there's like a competition
to do so, because there was always some rumors, right
like Peyton was a I think part of a group
that was looking at trying to get an ownership stake.
I don't know if it was Denver or somewhere else,
but you know, there's kind of that competition too. I
think even still probably amongst Tom Brady and Peyton Manning,
where they're still trying to compete off the field, and
(12:23):
there might be an idea of first guy to get
a you know, to own a team majority owner of
a team. So I just I look at and think,
there is no way you would be able to do
your job effectively the way it's supposed to be done
at least and knowing that those sorts of thoughts would
(12:45):
be in the minds of the people that you'd be
meeting with, whether you're playing the Raiders or a divisional opponent,
whatever the case may be, you know, that would be
a big hurdle I think for a lot of teams
who would be trying to meet with them during there's
production meetings.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So the fact that these things are taking place I mean,
it hasn't happened yet, but you'd have to assume that
they're still going to look at it the same exact
way as if he already had ownership. Why would you like,
you have to assume the rules of engagement are the same.
I'm going to limit Tom Brady and what information we're
(13:24):
you know, allowing for him to ascertain from from the
conversations just based upon what we're discussing right now. Wouldn't
that be logical? So if that's the logic behind it,
how is he able to effectively do his job?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So the fact that he's already this far down the
road on it still would be compromised, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, why would I risk that? If I'm a
franchise and I know that this can directly impact our
franchise moving forward? Why would I? Why would I handle
it any differently? So then why is it happening? It's
a great question that I mean, doesn't that lead to that?
Isn't that the natural next question? Like Tom? If you
(14:05):
want to be into booth, you do understand generally we're
not having this conversation with any talent that is going
to be calling games, but you are a unique situation here,
and you know we have to have that conversation. There
might be a different capacity of what it is that
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you're doing connected to being a part of the game
and giving your takes and your information. It just might
not be to this capacity. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I'll look at it from this perspective.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I never felt like there's necessarily a conflict of interest
when I was winning production meetings playing in the NFL.
But in college, Pat Hayden was not only had close
ties with Southern Cow, but he became their athletic director.
Like he went from broadcasting NBC Sports like Notre Dame
games to become their athletic director. And so I mean
(15:02):
we knew going into a lot of those meetings that
he's probably gathering stuff and whether or not. And I
know some people think all your question is integrity. You're
quite Look, he's doing a job for NBC Sports, but
he immediately comes to the athletic director. You don't think
he had some casual conversations with folks at Southern cal.
I mean we were always guarded about it in college.
There's not really much you can do, but you know,
(15:25):
we wouldn't say a whole lot of anything. We limited
his access to practice, and we were told strictly beforehand,
you know that just stick with the company line. If
they asked, you know, whatever questions, they just you know,
move on, be short, you know, don't don't try to
give any further detail.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Don't make sure you don't leave anything.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
In that room the production meetings in so, like, I've
kind of been through it before in a way, and
so I can promise you, I mean, because that was
what Charlie Weis's a guy whould come from the NFL
level and understood like how much information mattered at that
level and how you know, teams handles things erasing every
(16:06):
single dry erase board, you know, pausing and not making
sure any of the staff at the hotel would come through,
you know, any time we're like nope, yep, we're not
gonna talk. We're not gonna go over what we're doing schematically,
I mean, all those things. So I just I think
it's interesting that it's it's obviously being brought up because
it clearly is a conflict of interest, But if you're
getting paid what he's getting paid, I mean, I don't
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think it's unreasonable Someone's like, hey, you gotta kind of
gotta pick. And I think if Tom Brady had to
pick once he got approved, he probably picked the way
of being a minority owner.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's just a new day and age. These days, you
don't have to pick anymore. You know, you're.
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Speaking more current events.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I mean, that's it. I'm just saying it's very good.
You know, as the world turns, so do the days
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Speaker 8 (16:55):
Wow, wow, all right, wow, Hey, you asked for it.
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Speaker 7 (18:08):
Laid back with my mind, all my money and my
money on my mind. Lee's a gin guy. You ever
go gin and juice? Like? Do you ever? Is that
ever something you do? Or you just tangle Ray Jen
King Gray? Yeah, I've done gen and juice before.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Definitely do and juice, but it's more of like a
house party kind of concoction, like a jungle juice thing.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
You can't find you, you can't find dang, what what do.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
You feel right at home?
Speaker 12 (18:34):
Talking about that?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To be careful my guys around you're talking like that,
but you.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
Can't find g and juice on the on the contail man, Yeah,
what's he referring to? Johnson listening to that jungle music?
Oh no, drinking that jungle.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Drinking that jungle juice what don't you come back around.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You?
Speaker 9 (19:06):
You can't live here no more? Lee Ah, I mean
said it.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean it was an easy leg up. So what
kind of juice goes in gin? And juice? Orange juice?
It has to be orange, got to be orange juice.
That's that's that sounds discussed. That's the base.
Speaker 12 (19:31):
But you can get a bunch of different juices and
put them together.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, well I'm just telling you them pine cones, you
put that in a different juice. I'd love to hear
what apple juice?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
And and and.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What is a pine cone? That's that's that? That that gin?
Pine cones? Brou It tastes like the smell of of
an evergreen tree, right?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Gin does?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes? Tanger ray for certain Well.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
It's juniper berries, which juniper berries?
Speaker 11 (20:08):
Uh, sometimes sometimes we're associated with Christmas.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
No, juniper berries. That's what makes up gin.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
That's the red berries, man? Is that the little red berries?
Speaker 12 (20:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
I mean that was on and that was on Christmas tree.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
The red berries Jennifer how they would be?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah, that's why we know about them.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
That's why they're from the jungle. Dan Brady, your thoughts
o that.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Uh I thought gin was grain based.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, not wheat or made from wheat or barley.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
I don't believe to know. Well, it's always juniper is
always part of gin. And I'm not sure about the
wheat barley part.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I think you need to fact check that pal.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's herbal, it's also an alcohol.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Yes, what do you think the chances are.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's kind of wheat and barley. It is piny I
told you, I mean, why would it not? What you
mean it is that they.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Add probably juniper berries to it, but it has to
be distilled from wheater barley.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
Okay, yeah, all right, have you have you fact checking?
Speaker 5 (21:32):
You looked this up.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
I'm looking it up and hm hmm.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Well, I'm not sure about the wheat barley part yet,
but uh the I do know that gin is primarily
it's not considered gin unless it has juniper berries.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I understood there's there's juniper berries, there's probably water.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I would imagine though they're distilling it from a wheaton barley.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
If I had to bet.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay, listen, I just I just want some clarification on
what jungle juices. That's all I'm looking for, and gin
and orange juice sounds revaulting.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Well it is.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
Yeah, it is grain based.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
You're right.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Alcohol, Yeah, of course, I mean I was just saying
what distilled, what distincts it from other alcohol?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
That's all, gotcha. Huh Hey, listen to the blackberries.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Huh yeah, yeah, make sure them blackberries is up in there.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Those are all id you what you mean? That's what
Lee said.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I thought they were red, said they were from the
Christmas tree.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You think they were cherry red? As are cherry red?
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All right, so we do have some over unders coming
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up here a little over fifteen minutes from now from
the tairaq dot com studios. But Daboswiney, the head coach
of Clemson, he just decided, all right, I'm gonna go
ahead and clear some things up here.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
And he was on serious.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
XMS Clemson Central, and he had some thoughts about something
I don't know about you, guys, I'm a little fatigued
with I've got portal fatigue because it seems like it
pops up every week or so. Dabo Swinny decided to
break down different types of players and how they apply
them to the portal.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
There's three types of players in the portal. Well, most
of the guys in the portal aren't good enough to
play for us. Yeah, you know, that's just that's just
the reality of it. I mean, we have guys that
are backups at Clemson that go in the portal because
they just want to have an opportunity. And most of
them are graduates, by the way, But we have guys
that are backups or you know, they want a chance
to go play. And I got no problem with that,
(23:51):
and so rarely do we have a starter or leave Clemson.
You've got the majority of the guys, they're guys that
are in the portal because they want to have a
chance to go start somewhere. They're not playing where they are.
They're not good enough to come in and play for us,
and so we'd rather take a good high school player
as long as we can get them at which we do,
(24:12):
and you develop them. That's the first second type of
guy that goes in the portal is he's only going
in the portal as a formality because the deal has
already been done. He knows where he's going before he
ever goes in the portal. So when I get that
guy and then the third type of guys going in
the portal just to see what he can get, and
(24:33):
we're never going to win that war. So you know,
we've been really fortunate because first of all, we were established,
been there sixteen years, and we don't have a lot
of attrition. I mean, we had one hundred and twenty
seven guys go through spring ball and one hundred and
twenty five or sell on the roster, you know, after
spring post portal closing. So that's a miracle in today's world. Technically,
(24:54):
everybody that we sign as a transfer, everybody, just the
kids that we've signed this year, we're all transferred fro
High schoo all right. You know there's a lot of
people that talk about that, but we just do what
we think is best for Clemson.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's Davos Swiney, Clemson head coach. You guys are more
portled up than I am, So go ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Anything that was inaccurate.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
No I did not. No I did not.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The guys that don't have anything already figured out, they're
not good enough. That's why they're leaving where they're at.
They're not good enough. And generally they're not going to
be good enough to transfer and be that player at
a top power five major program. That's just that's that's factual,
And if they are good enough, it is a formality
(25:41):
those conversations. The deal has already been made one hundred percent. So,
and if you are starting out of school like Clemson.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
You're not leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The only way you're leaving is if you're going home
because your grades are bad, or if you're going to
the pros. That's the only way you're leaving if you're
starting out a place like Clemson.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So I think the other perspective to that point is
this is how you should build your roster in college football.
This is no different than us looking at an NFL
roster and saying they build through the draft, like that's
how this works, that's how it should work in theory.
I mean, if you're an NFL team, you're trying to
flip your roster and go on in free agency. How
(26:29):
many times we say teams that won the offseason that
never actually win when it comes to the regular season.
We say that all the time in the NFL, and
it's no different when it comes to college football.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
To all the.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Points LeVar just made, like any or even Dabo Sweeney making, like,
if a kid's looking to transfer, he's probably not good
enough in the start at the place he initially went to.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And there's no point in trying.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
To go after a guy when they put their name
in the portal because a lot oftentimes that deal's already done.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
It's got to do not contact on there, and.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
That means that they've already there's already been an agent
who's negotiated to deal with another school. And then finally
there's the third type that is just trying to get
up a bidding war to see what their market value is,
which you know that player is probably not bought in
to what Clemson's offering. So I would I would caution
any school if you're just trying to build through the
(27:23):
portal that is not sustainable. One and two, you're not
getting the best players. You're not getting the best players
out of high school that will eventually develop to be
those first round picks the five star, four star guys
like that, and there's callous examples of that. So we'll
see how nil the transfer portal, everything that's transpiring college
(27:46):
football sorts itself out over the next few years. But
I think you'll look back on some of the programs
that were very adamant about their approach to this, Clemson
in particular, and I think history will look act kindly
on them and say, like, you know, they kind of
weather the storm of adversity and through all this chaos.
But that was a program that they base things off
(28:08):
their high school recruitment development and then they you know,
decided not to really hit anything in the transfer portal.
That's the un prerogative, and I think they'll continue to
still be successful. Other programs might sprinkle in some and
that's fine too, because that's a you know, an opportunity
you have to get make your roster better, make your
team better. But this spring window, in particular, this second window,
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like like we saw, if you're trying to rely on that,
you're not getting anyone who's really going to come in
and drastically change the outcome of what your season may be.
I mean, the only window that really matters is the
one after the season. That's where you get guys who
potentially are looking at trying to jump ship, go somewhere else,
or you know, make more money in NIL. Then you
(28:52):
might get some opportunity there. But this spring window, the
most recent one, that's that's more depth for your roster
more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
When Deon Sanders a couple of weeks ago, I think
it was, was talking with media and Boulder and they
were talking about all the transfers and guys leaving, and
he basically said, and these are backups, like it was
something along those words where he said, these are guys
that weren't going to be starting here anyways, and the
media was trying to challenge him or question him on it.
Like some people had pushed back because they were like, well,
(29:23):
you know, it's I mean, you know, it's kind of
disrespectful maybe the way he's talking about these players, But
I kind of get from a coach's standpoint that if
a guy's going to use me and my program to
create either a bidding war or to try and use
me as a as a launching point to get to
someplace else, and he's not getting any playing time here,
(29:45):
I've got to represent the program and let people know, like, hey,
just because we're losing these players, the optics from people
not in the know may may look bad, like, hey,
everybody's leaving, but these are guys that aren't going to
be playing.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's correct, Jonas, that's a correct. Yes, that's the correct.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
But like when people get upset about that, I'm to.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Get upset at Deon Sanders stating the obvious. They're leaving there.
Dabbo just said it. They're leaving for a couple reasons.
The first reason, he's basically saying, this is the reason
why are these guys at Colorado are leaving. They're not
good enough to play here. They're backups. Like I'm just
explaining to you who they are. We're not losing starters,
(30:24):
we're losing backups. So if he's stating it that way,
there shouldn't be any outrage about it. I mean, it's
not like he's being crasp about how he's approaching it,
and it's just basically telling you what it is. And
that's most likely, more than often the reason why guys
are going into the transfer portal unless they have created
(30:48):
like you said.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
And then there's the there's the there's those.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Outliers where like a Caleb Williams, right, his coach left
went to a different school. He followed the coach like,
that's that's that's like one of those one times where
you're like, you know what, that makes a lot of
sense that a guy that good would leave and go.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
That makes sense. But for the most part, be clear,
if you're.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Going to Colorado as a transfer that went into the portal,
chances are you already knew you were going to Colorado
to play for Colorado. And the kids that are leaving,
they're leaving because chances are they know they're never going
to get on the field as to the capacity that
(31:31):
they intended to get on the feel that, and so
now they're looking for a different place to land where
they may have that opportunity. Generally is not going to
be on the same level as the school you're leaving.
Just generally doesn't work that way. People don't like the
reality of it. People don't like hearing that though. Oh well,
but here we are with the college.
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Speaker 2 (32:50):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I have been losing you know you're alion low life.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Camlay General it's over under all right, lead to ap.
How bad was the beating I handed out last week?
Speaker 11 (33:03):
It was pretty handed. It was pretty heavy handed there, Jonas.
We'll just start off with the You know, the Pacers
were complaining about the foul calls last week, so we
had asked with the Knicks how much would the Knicks
get fouled more than the Pacers or how many how
many times would they be called and we had it
at five and a half. In fact, the Pacers still
got called for more fouls during that during that game,
(33:25):
twenty to eighteen. So LeVar actually took the under the
first round. We had sweeps in the NBA last weekend, it.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Was the under.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Note there was no sweeps in the semis, so both
of you took the under on that one. Good job
by you guys. Same goes for the NHL playoffs. Would
we have a suite between the Rangers and the Hurricanes.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
It was hit. It did hit the under. Jonas hit
that one.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Lastly, we had the BattleHawks versus the Stallions. Jonas correctly
took the over Birmingham Stallions beating Battle.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I didn't care about that gang, right, you did say, really, Master.
Speaker 12 (34:00):
Yeah, that is a good I have right here.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
When we reached out for the entire day.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
And flight delays for Brady, he did hit the over
Good job there, Brady helping Jonas take a demanding lead
for one to Levar's two and three.
Speaker 12 (34:15):
Yeah, should say and two.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
What exactly do you mean earlier this week or last week?
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Last weekend?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Oh, last Friday?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Oh no, I didn't have any delays. Then I had
delays on the Monday tuesdays this week.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Oh wow, that's what I meant.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
That's gonna be Uh, it's gonna shake things.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Zero delays.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Good jobs last Friday. That's on Cannons.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
It was Monday Tuesday this week.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
So I don't know if that changes anything, Lee, but
if it does, let drop kid.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
Jonahs still ekes out a wind. Yeah, just barely, just barely, think.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Daddy, I thought it was commanding. Which one is it?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:52):
Well it was commanding.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Okay, Lee, what do we got this week?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
This week?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
We got it? Must have been manufacturer with Black Bay.
That's that's how you got that.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
And you know they kind of look blue before they
go through the process. Just okay, just to make sure we're.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
All on the up and up, there some sometimes you know,
black is compared to blue.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Black and blue Fellows. BJ Championship.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
We're gonna start over unders this week fellows, We've got
PG Championship. What does Scotti Scheffler shooting round two seventy
and a half.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
I'm gonna go shoot anything. I'm gonna take the under.
I'm gonna go over.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It's hard to swing a club with handcuffs one, so
that's over.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
I'll take it over on that.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I think he'll be under that, he'll be four or
five hour.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
I like it, guys.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
The Preakness this weekend winning margin for the winning horse
one and a half lengths over.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Very Bafford's horse is out though, right.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yes, I saw that. Let's take the under.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I hope it's the under.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
By the way that Baffert's horses out because what he
got a fever?
Speaker 12 (36:03):
Yeah, spiking a fever?
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Grow up, all right, that's not a real athlete. What
else we got?
Speaker 11 (36:08):
We we have Tyson Fury versus Alexander Usik this weekend
rounds ten and a half over.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Over take the under.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
M Okay, guys, Game sevens we get in the NBA
Semis over under one and a half.
Speaker 12 (36:25):
We already know we have one over three game sevens.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Oh, I don't about that, but I'll stay over.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
I'll take the under.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
I didn't even hear the question, man, And we have
three game six is so to go in the NHL?
Do we get over under? On game sevens? We get
one and a half over?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Wait, I say that again.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
We have three game sixes. We've got two today, one tomorrow.
Game sevens. We get in these semis one and a
half for the NHL, for the NHL.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Yeah, we just do this.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
About to say, I would think of the same thing.
I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Uh, I'm hoping the over.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
And that's over unders baby. See it's all right. Well
take a quick break very efficiently. Good good job, Lee,
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