May 10, 2024 • 59 mins
John dives a little more into the storylines coming out of the Tom Brady roast and this time reacting to the comments from Julian Edelman about the awkwardness between Belichick and Kraft and how it's not surprising that both guys are pointing fingers at each other. Later, John dives into how Netflix could get a Christmas Day NFL game, and he reads your Fugazi Friday comments.
Lastly, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.
5:06 - Pointing fingers to blame others
15:54 - Netflix getting in the NFL mix
25:17 - Fugazi Friday
46:25 - Mailbag
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go poorly. And I've been part of different businesses over
my life, in radio and early on some startup companies
with podcasts before I got linked up with Colin that
(03:52):
didn't go well, and talking to you know, my friends
in different businesses that have tried different things. From a
non entrepreneurial standpoint, try starting business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And they fail. People point fingers.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now, most of these businesses are not very public, so
you never hear about them. But we have been seeing
in professional sports when shit hits the fan, everyone points
the finger at someone else. I actually think it's kind
of a basic instinct for human beings. Think about when
you're a little kid, anyone with siblings, when you get
in trouble or with your friends, you never take responsibility.
(04:28):
You always blame someone else even if you did it,
and it's kind of a natural reaction. Now, the older
you get and more professional, some people are clearly more
cutthroat than others. They would do the Joe Peshi meme
in Goodfellas. They'll take you out to survive. And I
also think survival for a lot of people in business
(04:51):
is almost more important than their actual job performance. They'll
do whatever it takes to survive. So the easiest thing
when things are not going well, which is inevitable, I
don't care what business you're in, is to say, it's
not my fault, it's someone else's fault. I would have
done this different. Wasn't my idea. That guy screwed it up.
(05:11):
That guy's the more on we replaced that person, we
change this that I had.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We'll make it and then you can keep going down that,
you know, taking that stance the rest of your career.
And a lot of people do it. And if you
get in with the right people right, if you're an
employee and the owner likes you, that the main CEO
likes you, it's easy to do that and survive. We've
all known people that do it. I saw it in
the radio industry when I worked in it for about
(05:38):
four years with a ton of guys. It wasn't about
how good they were at their job. And I'm not
even talking about hosts. I'm talking about people that worked
for the company. It was about surviving and keeping that job,
which I understand because the number one thing that humans
the older you get. I was talking to someone about
this the other day because they thought they were getting screwed,
and I said, listen, I don't think this person's necessarily
(06:01):
trying to screw you. But first and foremost, they care
about themselves and they care about their family. And if
they view you as like, ah, you don't need the money,
you're rich, or you've made a lot of money, it's
easy to justify and ultimately, and listen, a lot of
people are like this, I have to do what I
(06:21):
have to do. And I think in sports, we've all
seen this happen forever. When teams lose GMS, coaches, players,
but mainly GMS and coaches point the finger at other
people and try to get them fired, try to get
them removed and say it was their fault. In football,
it happens all the time. The GM points the finger
(06:42):
at the coach, and if not the head coach, the coordinators,
and that's why there's constant turnover.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
At those positions.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But actually, when you have success is a time when
a lot of people, especially you know, highly public figures,
struggle with that. And I remember when I first got
into kind of radio and out of the NFL and
started doing whatever the hell I do Now. I saw
with Jed York and Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh was bigger
(07:14):
than every player on the team, and that team had
star players everywhere, and he got the majority of the credit,
and Jed York and Trent Balkey did not like that. Now,
Jed was young, and Trent who I like. I mean,
he's been cool to me in my dealings with him
over the years, but a lot of people think he's
kind of an ego crazy, you know, power hungry maniac,
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and they didn't get the credit. Jim got it all,
and then they inevitably fired Jim Harbaugh. Now, the good
thing about some of these it happened with Jerry Jones obviously,
and Jimmy Johnson, which I would say is one of
the more famous ones in NFL history, and it took
them twenty five years to get back together. And most
of this is not usually over money, because you're dealing
(08:00):
with rich people.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The money when Jimmy and Jerry broke up was a
lot different than the modern day NFL. But when you
see these things happen, specifically Bill and Craft, it has
nothing to do with one penny, let alone millions of dollars.
Craft is a billionaire and Bill is worth a shitload.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's all about ego.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And we noticed it on the roast because you're like, god,
this is kind of weird at the end, and then
Julian Edelman had drew Bledsoe on his podcast and brought
it up and he hammered it home. It's actually worse
than you think. Let's take a lessen etioned in that
room though it was, it was real cut, it was
very real.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It was real. I was so awkward.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I was like, I was watching coach and I tried
to give coach a heads up.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm like, I see Craft walk in, like he'll coach you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Know this locker room shit like five oh five oh
you know like.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
He did.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Of course he didn't fucking see it, right, and he
came in and I was like, oh shit, this could
be some fireworks.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I just walked away. To me.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The craziest part about this, let's use the Gym and
Jed York example. When those guys had their falling out
and they mutually departed aka fired Jim. Jim was like
fifty years old. Jed was in his early thirties. Time
was on their side, and a couple of years ago
they had a reunion for like the twenty twelve team
(09:30):
that lost in the Super Bowl, and Jim came and
now everyone's friends.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm not saying they're BFFs. They're not sending each other
Christmas cards. Probably maybe they do, but it's like time happens.
I remember being a kid and having some family issues,
not with my immediate family, but just uncles and aunts
and people not talking, and think, of God, this is
pretty chaotic. This is in my close couple friends didn't
(09:55):
really have that. And then the older you get, you
meet a bunch more people you realize, yeah, I wasn't alone.
Happens to a lot of people. Most people's family, I
think we could say, in some form or fashion, kind
of messed up.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
There is no perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Family, and it makes you realize, yeah, And over time
everyone gets back together, hopefully and you figure things out
and it might never be the same, but it's not
as acrimonious as it once was. Why Because over time
brings your perspective. You realize life short at what were
we actually arguing over? What were our actual issues? And
(10:31):
you put them aside. You know, Jerry, I would say
as probably, if not the biggest, one of the biggest
egos in the league, and Jimmy probably does two and
it took them twenty five years. But when they broke up,
both guys, I didn't write down their age, but I
would guess, you know, mid forties, late or late forties,
early fifties. So if they're gonna live till they're eighty
(10:54):
or eighty five, like they got some time and they
finally got back together, Check and Craft, who clearly despise
each other. Craft has hated him and told people publicly.
It's been well reported on for a long long time.
Can't stand him and like Bill's not.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The easiest guy to deal with.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Fired is one thing. Listen, teams struggle, guys get fired,
Welcome to pro sports. But that documentary was an all
time FU to Bill, and Bill even use it in
the roast. Here's the problem. I don't see any making up.
Bill is seventy two, seventy three years old. Robert Kraft
(11:38):
is eighty two. One of these guys is going to
take this situation to the grave cause it ain't getting fixed.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It just is not.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I think it makes you realize most things end
pretty poorly. Most great things kind of crash and burn
in the history of time, right, Jews is an analogy
all the time, well even roam Pell.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You see it with some.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Of these companies, like is Apple going to stay on
top forever?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
History of time would show you that's not usually the
way it works out. And you look at this situation,
they saw unprecedented success and ultimately their downfall wasn't the
last couple of years of losing, which sucked.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But it's football. You have some bad years, like.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Andy had a couple bad years in Philadelphia. Him and
Jeffrey Larry are still good buddies. It was about Robert
Kraft's refusal because ultimately we can argue to what blue
in the face Brady Belichick Belichick Brady, We know both
guys had a big role. However you want to put
it on the pipe chart sixty forty Brady, seventy thirty Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Fifty to fifty. It was those two guys.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Robert Craft, let's face, it didn't do a goddamn thing
and that bothered him, just like bother Jerry back in
the day, why he wanted to be the star and
let's face it, Robert Craft kind of likes being a star.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He kind of does.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He likes being a big deal. Look at who he's
running around with, Robert Craft. I never see him runn
around with other guys eighty years old. He likes running
around the cool guys. He likes trying to be a
real cool guy.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And it seemed like people.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Have liked him over the years, but in this situation,
like I'm sorry, just give him.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
His flowers and move on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
But that Craft family clearly right now hates him. And
I would say, based on Belichick's history, pretty petty guy.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Not one to just be.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like, yeah, I messed up, screwed up, My bad, my bad.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's eighty two years old.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
If he lives three more years, that's an incredible life.
How many people you know lived till eighty five?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Short list?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
My dad didn't sniff eighty five. So you just kind
of sad, but also pretty predictable. The Bulls we saw
that last dance, all those guys they hated the GM.
Michael doesn't ever do anything with the Bulls. Scotti and
Michael hate each other. It's all over egos because it's
(14:11):
easy to point the finger at someone else when things
are shitty. What about when things go great? Who actually
gets the credit? And it's a downfall of all of
ours because we all like to raise our hand and
probably get more credit than we deserve. Netflix. I defended
Amazon Prime a couple of years ago when they got
Thursday Night Football, and I even defended Peacock last year
(14:34):
when a lot of people push back. I understand not
everyone has unlimited money to buy all these things, but
the reality of the television industry is the cable box
is doa and it's never coming back. What we have
gotten used to over the last fifteen twenty years is
(14:55):
never going to be the same. So the world we
live in right now, we're at the early stages. Even
though Netflix has been around a while and Hulu and
some of these companies now it's not like they're one
year old, but their impact when it comes to the
way we consume things is.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At the very very beginning.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And Boomerosiasin said on his radio show that look for
Netflix to get the Christmas Games, and most people.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Be like, oh, why don't you put it on CBS?
Put it on ABC.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You do understand that those channels how we view them,
right now, there's a chance in ten years they will
not be around. There's a chance in five years it's
not even possible to get the cable box. It will
not exist. It probably will, But if you don't think
there's a chance, then I don't know what world you're
(15:51):
living in.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I understand that, depending on where you live, having the
power of the Internet is in portant to streaming on
your television, and that impacts how you are as a viewer,
and that sucks. I can't relate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Because I spent a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I have the good Internet now, granted I need it
for my job. But Netflix is gonna get a Christmas game.
It clearly looks like and I actually think that Tom
brady roast is a good example. And I always use
me as a consumer. My mom watches Netflix every day.
(16:29):
She's in her mid seventies. When I lay down at
bed at night, like when we get in bed, after
you brush your teeth or whatever, you're just gonna watch
a television show. We never go to YouTube TV, which
is obviously not the cable box, but just where you
would watch television. The first place we go, and I
think the first place most people go is Netflix. I
(16:52):
have sympathy if you had to download and pay for
the Peacock app, because that's not something that everyone has
and is like consistantly and everyone's home. It's in mind
because she loves whether it's below Deck or summer House
to some of the Bravo shows. And I would imagine
a lot of people my age, either their girlfriend or
wife uses Peacock heavily because of that catalog. I don't
(17:13):
really watch it beside for it usually has golf stuff
for like the US Open, so I've used it before,
but I don't think we can say that about Netflix.
And I actually think Tom Brady the Roast is a
good example. It'll be fascinating once the news finally leaks
of how many people have watched that show, if it
ever does. But I think a large contingent of people
(17:37):
just stumbled upon it, like in nineteen ninety eight when
I would just stumble upon, oh the Grammys are on,
or oh the Oscars are on, or oh this show
was on, which used to happen and doesn't really happen anymore.
But the one thing Netflix has, being by far the
biggest streaming service, is the power to control everything. Whenever
(18:00):
I see the top ten trending. Are they really the
top ten trending or those the ones they want to
put right there, the most popular ten movies going right now?
Are those actually the most watched movies right now? Or
is that what they want to promote and their power
to promote this and that Brady thing. It really stood
out like they could easily get in bed with Monday
(18:23):
night or Sunday Night football when everyone's sitting down turning
on Netflix, Boom, Sunday Night Football on, everyone's sitting down
turning on Boom. Monday Night Football is on. And Amazon
Prime was kind of the first mover when it came
to getting involved from a streaming platform with the NFL
and Thursday night football. Let's face it, I'm not saying
(18:45):
like the broadcast, I wish it was a little better,
but just talking about the product, how easy it is
to consume for me at least and I think most people,
because last year at average thirteen million people is a
great example. Well, guess what is way more popular as
a streaming service than Amazon Prime. Netflix? And like Amazon
(19:06):
who is flush with unlimited money.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Netflix.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So when you look at this next television deal, I
think these partners are in major trouble. NBC is bleeding
money right now, and if they spend all this on
the NBA, which rumors are they might, they will have
no choice but to be aggressive for the NFL, just
like all these networks, they need them. But how can
(19:32):
you compete against Netflix? If Apple wanted it, you can't
compete against them. There is no competition. It's like putting
a Walmart next to your little mom and pop shop.
Business is usually done within twelve months. They have absolutely
no shot and Netflix is proven with that. To me,
(19:52):
that Tom Brady roast that like live events can really work.
Now the logistics of would they have to get their
their own you know broadcasters. Could they just do a
partnership with Fox or CBS and just use one of
their crews, which I think they gladly would, or maybe
(20:13):
they will just get into the business on their own
and buy some trucks and kind of get it dip
their toe. They really can do whatever they want. And
I've been saying this forever that the Jerry Jones generation
of Jerry Jones, robber Craft, the older owners, the Rooneyes,
h just the Maras are going to be very very
(20:36):
loyal to CBS, to NBC to ABC. Their children simply
will not, And honestly, it doesn't even make sense for
the older generation though. They can look at the traditional
broadcast partners as the ones who's made them billions, the
ones who essentially bought their yachts, But younger generations aren't
(20:59):
loyal when it comes to business.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I saw with my.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Parents they would use the same people to do the
same things, no matter what it's like, Mom, you're gonna
redo the kitchen. This guy's like screwed up three kitchens. Well,
we've known this guy for twenty five years. He's a good, close, personal.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Friend of your dad. We're gonna use him.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's not really how me or my friends are wired,
just cause I know you. If your work's not good,
if your price is too hig, I'll go with someone else.
And you look at the age of some of these
up and coming kids. They're not twenty years old, but
they're not seventy. And these companies are going to be
able to throw astronomical amounts of money out there. And
(21:42):
I just think that the next go around, the way
we're consuming these these NFL games in twenty thirty will
not look anywhere near like we're doing it now, and
they've dipped their tote enough to start, and they're only
getting more and more aggressive. Amazon Prime Thursday Night YouTube
TV gets the package. Buckle up because I'm actually excited.
(22:06):
I actually think it's easier. Okay, Fugazi Friday will bank
some out. It's funny the some of you get, some
people push back, some people get angry. It's like, God, everyone,
this is just it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's not that big a deal.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know. First, Fugazi Friday, hope this makes the pod.
If you did have hair, because the one thing consistently
with Fugazi Friday, everybody forwards.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Me tipping memes, tipping reels.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The tipping thing is I think one thing we all
relate to. If you did have hair, would you tip
your barber ten bucks if it already costs twenty five
to cut your hair. I'm asking because I usually tip
my guy ten after I pay twenty five, and he's
been cutting hair for over five years now, so I
figured it's just a better service. But since watching your
(23:05):
rants on the tipping culture, I've been questioning it. Your thoughts, well,
I haven't had hair since twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Eleven, so we're going on a while I've been bald.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And sometimes, you know, as you age, the longer you
get away from something, you start thinking like, what was
that like? Definitely, whether it's looking back on memories from
college or someone you dated, or you know, a trip
you went on, you have the good parts of the memory,
but there's a lot missing. Maybe that's just me. Maybe
my brain's just kind of doesn't have the capacity of.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Some of you guys.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I can't even remember what it was like sitting in.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A chair and getting my haircut. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I remember being a kid and my dad taking me
to the Wrestler Brothers. It was these two guys and
Davis that had you know, it was the equivalent of
like a sports bar, but it was a barber shop.
It was cool back then. You know, haircut costs, and
I think my dad would just give the guy a
twenty and would just, you know, classic, just give me
a buzz cut every time pisses me off. Thinking about
(24:07):
all I wanted was long hair and you never would
let me grow it out. But uh, and then you know, obviously,
then I get older, I don't even have hair. I
think it's more than fair.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And this is the whole thing with.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Tippingal The only fugazis with tipping is when you're like, God,
this service was terrible. Part of giving someone extra money
is like, God, you earn that. And I think with
a haircut, and again it's hard for me to speak
because I shaved my head in a shower, is that. Yeah,
(24:39):
I think one hundred percent you should tip the guy.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Hell, if you.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Really like the guy, I'd get him like a you know,
one hundred dollars gift card at the end of the year,
especially if you go all the time. I'd say twenty
five dollars haircut in twenty twenty four seems like a
pretty good deal, not really in the mix of the
price points for the service, but especially if you liked
the guy we got. I got a lot of DMS
(25:08):
on the fugazis of weddings and the prices, So here's one.
Just watch Fugazi Friday. I think big weddings are a fugazi.
My wife and I got married in twenty one and
COVID gave us an out from having a big, expensive wedding.
We rented a huge house with a pool in a
in Cape Coral and had our immediate family and close
(25:30):
friends come down probably thirty five people total cost us
maybe seventy five hundred dollars, and everyone said it was
the best wedding they've ever been to. I think weddings
are just very.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Very personal, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I understand people complaining on Friday weddings because you
got to take time off work and especially if you're
in it to get to the rehearsal dinner. But I
defended that given the cost of it, and let's face it,
I had someone who's having these conversations.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
There are much different.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Wants and needs, usually of the men and the woman.
So I understand it. And depending on your family situation,
I saw someone else reach out as like, yeah, these
I mean, I trust me. I've been to a couple
of stores these rings, So it's not even just the wedding,
it's the cost of a ring. They are not cheap either,
so you factor in all these costs. That's how I
(26:23):
would do it the way that you just described it.
But I understand if she wants a great wedding and
her family has the money for it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I think the costs of everything, I just understand all
the sides. When it comes to this fugazi Friday, the
Lakers firing Darvin Ham Like, it's not the front office's
fault for not giving him braun an ad more help
to beat the best team in the NBA, I think anytime.
And this is my favorite part about the NBA. The
(26:55):
Suns a couple hours ago just fired Frank Vogel. Is
when a coach is hired and these talking show the
talk shows that talk about the NBA act like it
one hundred percent, Like, think about this. The Bucks have
fired multiple coaches in like twelve months. That's a Jannis
Antta kumpo. Whenever a Lebron coach gets fired, that is
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Lebron James. Now sometimes it's right, maybe the guy's not
any good. But Kevin Durant just and Devin Booker just
got Frank Vogel fired. That's the way the NBA works,
which is what I like about the NFL. If you
get fired as a coach in the NFL, your relationships
with players good and bad, it's it's kind of irrelevant.
(27:43):
If you win on Sunday, you will keep your job.
If you lose, you will not. If your offense or defense,
if you're a coordinator, is not good, you're done. Whether
guys like you or they don't like you. It's very
very you know, black and white. We're in the NBA.
It's like, eh, both those situations with the Lakers and
(28:03):
the Suns, they weren't even into the locker room as
they lost their series, and Shams came out with articles
about both, about the deterioration of the relationship, about the schemes,
about the rotations. It's like, this is I mean, and
I'm not saying these guys are Phil Jackson in his prime,
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but holy shit, like no one is winning with the
Kevin Durant situation at this point in time. He just
wants to show up, score some points, go home, get high.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Lebron and Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
The team the third best player or fourth best players,
D'Angelo Russell. But this is what happens. We talked about
early pointing the finger. Polink Ain't Polinko always point the finger.
The guy's running through coaches like Matt he could say, well,
it's my job to keep up the relationship with Lebron.
It's just so fake because the players, the star players
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who get the coach fired, they never admit to it.
They never admit to it. Where it's like, what are
we fucking talk?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We know you got him fired, we know you did.
I would respect him.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's like, listen, I didn't think he was any good,
he didn't know what he was doing. I didn't respect him.
At the end, he had to go at them. We've
all thought that about our bosses. Most human beings don't
have the juice to fire their boss. We all of
us have worked for incompetent people. Darvin Ham had them
in the Western Conference finals last year. Frank Vogel's proven
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to be pretty good. So you get with most of
these star players, the moment they want you gone, You're gone.
It's just that simple. It has nothing to me to
do with the front office. The moment Kevin Duran or
Devin Booker goes to the owner says I want this
guy gone, he's gone. I got a Fugazi Friday for
(29:53):
you paying for Spotify Premium and using to listen to
music and podcasts ad free. Then turn around and the
podcast start with six minutes of ads. Well, here's the thing,
how can Spotify if I read ads in my podcast,
in my content? They can't cut it out. Those ads
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for us in the podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Business pay a lot, so there.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's not even a hack. It's just the business. They
control ads that they put in. So if I put
this podcast on Spotify, you, I'm sure will hear ads
that aren't my voice, and if you pay for the premium,
Spotify will take that out. But if I read an ad,
they can't remove that. So it's we've learned ways to
(30:45):
get away around that. So I feel you luckily, and
I'm not. I've said this, I'm not a cheap guy,
but I don't pay for any ad free on any
of those. I'll just be like at the gym, listen
to Pandora, and all of a sudden I'll get an
AD for some you know, barbecue joint in Fresno. Because
back in the day when I signed up for Pandora
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in like twenty ten, i lived in Fresno. So still
to this.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Day, fifteen fourteen years later, I still.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Get Fresno ads, you know, between sets, between like you know,
it depends how three or four songs. Sometimes if you
skip too much, they'll show you an AD. Not I'm
not paying for ad free. I'm loving the Fugazi Fridays.
I have one that I've been meaning throughout for a
while and finally remembered to share comments sections. Honestly, what
(31:35):
are we doing? You read these, whether it's Twitter or Facebook, YouTube,
et cetera, it's always either I like this or some
something negative like your content sucks, which is even funny
because that means that person is actually tuning in to
something they don't like. Sometimes you have the crowd that
chimes in I totally agree, and then proceeds to restate
(31:58):
the same point as the podcaster, like they're trying to
make it about them. Very rarely does anyone actually chime
in with a new perspective, and even then I just
don't understand the mindset it takes to shout these things
into the Internet void for a few strangers and likely bots.
Maybe I'm crazy. My thing with YouTube is I love
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listening to live music. So if you just type in
whatever you want to hear, and I like typing in
whoever the artist is acoustic, right if I'm in the mood.
If I hear a song at the gym and I
get back, it's like boom Bomb acoustic or boom Boom live,
and all the comments will be like, let's just use
an example, like let's just say I throw on like Metallica,
(32:42):
Metallica Acoustic. Turn the page from like nineteen ninety nine
or you know an old video. All the comments if
you just search newest will be like remember when music
was great?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You just don't hear music liked.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All these losers now playing music would die to sound
everything in a weird way is like complimentary but a shot.
It's like, yeah, it was just a good song, Like
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Music today music always?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Do you know what's funny is I remember driving around
with my dad a lot when I was a kid.
He was a farmer, so I used to take me
to the fields and stuff, bonding whatever, drive around, and
he listened to music from the sixties and the seventies
when he was young and growing up. And for the
most part, especially when I was really young, I was like,
this music sucks.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And then the older you get, you're like.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
God, I like that music and you can easily listen
to it. And he thought the same about mine.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's like, what the fuck are you listening to?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It'd be like a you know, doggy style from Snoop Dogg,
like throw on track three, dad, you know, and he
just didn't like it. But as you get older, you
kind of like what your parents listen to, you like
what you grew up listening to, and then the new
music now. I like, I was thinking about this today
in the shower.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Do new bands exist? Like?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do new bands like Nirvana, Pearl, Jam, Metallica and obviously
go back well before them?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Whoever?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Bands from the eighties? Then it just felt like the seventies, Ozzie.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You name it, They're just bands. Do bands exists?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like rappers still exists? A country music stars still exists?
I also thought do R and B singers still exist?
When I was a kid, one O two five in
Sacramento was the big like I would say hip hop channel,
but for every rap song there were multiple R and
B songs played.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
R and B was huge in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Does that genre exist anymore? I mean they were some
of the biggest stars in music. Boys the Men easily
is one of the biggest groups of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Any genre.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
When when Eddie de Bartolow when the forty nine ers
shut down Candlestick in what was the last year he
was playing there, twenty thirteen is the It was the
game where Navarro Bowman picked off Matt Ryan the pick
of the stick.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It was sweet.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I was on the field. It was badass. I was
standing right next to Chris Berman. It's one of the
coolest moments in my sport life. I remember looking up
the place going nuts. They had a huge like after
everyone stayed, they had a stage. Eddie de Bartelow's favorite band,
I guess was Boys to the Men and they played a
bunch of songs. I think the bass guy is like,
I don't know if he got sick or you're not
even in the group anymore. But it was only three
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of them. But it hit me the other day like
it doesn't exist. But I'm telling you, if you're my
age or older, go listen to a song from like
the seventies, eighties, nineties, whatever, and just look at all
the comments. It basically is just shitting on music today.
And I've never understood, Like I've always liked music, Like
what kind of music you listened to? I'm like, whatever's good,
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Like I listened to more often than not certain things.
But if something is good, I'm gonna like it. But
yet it feels like, at least on the internet, everyone
just talking shit. And let's face it, pep are kind
of angry. Most people aren't happy. Hell I'm sometimes I
wake up today, as a good example, just woke up.
I wasn't that happy, didn't feel like smiling, just felt
(36:09):
like not having a bad day. But I wasn't gonna
have a great day, not from a production standpoint, but
just from uh, I'm not gonna be in a good mood.
I just kind of want to be in a bad mood.
If I was the equivalent of that, my comments would
be negative. And I think majority of people that comment
are just in a bad frame of mind. So I'm
with you now that that's why I don't even spend
(36:31):
that much time on Twitter anymore, because it's been it's
been the same now for like a decade. It's just
a bunch of I've always said it's the radicals country
club because there's no entry free, no entry fee. So
anyone who's angry and obsessed with whatever spends time there
and just fucking talk shit. It's all useless and pointless.
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It's just irrelevant at the end of the day too,
So I just I don't spend.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Very much time in there anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I spend way more time on YouTube. But you can
it's easier to avoid the comments there because the point
of the app is the video, but when you go
through the comments, like, it's kind of the same thing. Now,
sometimes you get a powerful thing like hey, this song
really helped me get through a tough time Like that,
that's powerful. I think you get some of that too,
(37:19):
But I'm with you. I just think comments in general,
you know, tend to be pretty negative. Fugazi Friday watching
First Take this morning, and one of the topics was
the WNBA committing fifty million dollars for charter flights, so
meaning the NBA is helping out. Lol. It's hilarious to
(37:40):
me with some of these topics for professional women's sports,
like why can't we just be honest like we do
in men's sports. I'm not saying these girls or gals
aren't professionals or good athletes, but let's be real about it.
The best way to actually help women's sports succeed is
to move the WNBA and soccer teams to smaller cities.
We don't have any professional team, and I would bet
(38:02):
that they would be much more successful and popular because
people actually go to the games. I thought one of
the dumbest things I've ever seen in my entire life
was the reaction to Caitlin Clark's contract. Like, you guys know,
this league's never turned to profit. Ethan Strauss has been
writing about it forever. That the reason that you see
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the ads because if me and you own a company
and we buy fifty million dollars worth of advertising for
the NBA, it's built into the contract that the WNBA
gets it two but the money is going to the NBA,
who is subsidized in the WNBA. Now for the first time,
for the first time, there is someone that I would
(38:43):
say universally people are interested in the college women's basketball
has had great players for decades, I mean superstar players, right,
they were very famous in the sporting world. I think
Caitlyn Clark has passed that. Now you get that level
of hype or you got to live up to it.
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And if you do, I think she could help the
WNBA out a lot, at least for her team and
whenever she's playing.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And I'm gonna pay attention, but.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You couldn't pay me, like the majority people I know
to watch one of those games that doesn't have her Yet,
all these women associated with the WNBA, we're all like
taking shots at her, Like, are are you guys morons?
She is your opportunity to be a rocket ship, to
make way more money, to bring way more people into
the sport. Again, I hate comparing her to this, but
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I remember when Tiger Woods got on the scene. All
the old stiff you know guys on tour, we're all
talking shit about him. It's like, do you realize if
he's good, his importance to your bank account it will
grow dramatically. Everyone's like, I can't believe Caitlin Clark's making
seventy five grand. Well the industry she works and makes
no money, Like, what do you think is going on
(39:59):
the investment The banker at twenty five makes one hundred
and fifty grand, Well, yeah, he works for Chase Bank.
They're printing cash. And this is why does Tatum make
fifty million? Because the NBA makes whatever, five billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Never understood people screaming.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
About salaries or equality of pay in terms of sports.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Like it's pretty black and white.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's all based on revenue, how most industries are. I
can't speak to everyone, but I'm with you. I mean,
I'm rooting for Caitlin Clark to succeed, not because I
care about the WNBA, because I think she's an interesting story,
and if she is awesome and a superstar, I'll pay attention,
just like I'm sure many people listening. It doesn't mean
(40:43):
I'm gonna watch every one of her dribbles, but the
more and more they've never had me, and I may
die hard. I've literally dedicated my life talking about and
working in sports and they've never had me. And now
they finally get me, and people go on television and
like start pushing back against her, like, God, you guys
are such morons. You guys, if any of you guys
ran a business, all of you would be out of it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You guys would go bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And it just shows you like they've been you know,
the NBA give David Stern credit for creating this and
Adam Solber for promoting it, but you need star power
and she is that. So the charter flights like that
was another story. It's like, yeah, they don't have charter flights?
What business that doesn't make any money? Charters flights, Elizabeth
(41:28):
Thanos SBF even though he actually sneaking making money, he
was just also siphoning money.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
That's a whole another story. But yeah, I don't get hell.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'd love to fly private too. Don't make enough to
do that, so I'll get on Southwest for one hundred
fifty bucks. Okay, middle Cooff mailbag at John Middlecoff at
John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get
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your question on the show. We will start with Alex.
Who was more important to their sport Michael Jordan or
Tiger Woods and why shout out to my friend Harrison
who introduced me to three and out shout out Harrison,
good looking bro. I don't even think this is a question,
and I would say on the aggregate, Michael Jordan is
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obviously bigger than Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It just didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think Michael Jordan, at least in my life, is
easily the biggest athlete ever you could argue in the
history of time. But Michael Jordan inherited a bird magic
NBA that was starting to gain a lot of traction,
had a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
The sport was not not making.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You know, trajectory up. So to me, while Michael was
enormous in his impact as you factory in like shoes
and stuff, but like I said the other day on Tiger,
his impact on business casual changed society. Someone sent me
a DM the other day that was like, that was
(43:10):
dead on that. That is the look. It's the Khaki
polo look. So to me, when you factor in the sport,
Tiger didn't move the needle. He was the needle. He
literally changed golf. Michael didn't change basketball, he just elevated
(43:31):
it very, very highly. But because Tiger took over something
that was much lower, it's to me it just has
to be him. And we've seen versions of Michael since.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I mean, Kobe was a massive, massive star. Obviously, Lebron
and Steph.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Were never sniffing Tiger again, not even close. What sucks
because we're better off with stars, and it's one of
the reasons, you know, golf is hurting. It's one of
these reasons these other sports they just get such famous
stars so fast. You know, football creates them quickly, and
the NBA creates them quickly too. The NBA, though, sometimes
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tries to tell you someone's better than they are, but
eventually the cream rises. Question for the back, the Falcons
draft Pennis and claim their plan is for Cousins to
be good and Penis to start in four or five years.
So Plan A was to keep Pennix from going to
(44:34):
a team where he could play right away. Plan B
was the bench Cousins and light one hundred million dollars
on fire. This sounds like what you would do if
you hated Cousins, Pennis and the Falcons and wanted to
make them suffer. I'm having Michael Lombardi on the podcast
and he's been talking about.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
This for a while.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The whole point of a front office, Like all these
scouts right now, the draft just ended, they will start
like diving in headfirst to the prospects this fall, right now,
writing reports, getting initial information right now, banging out especially
on the top guys, right the top, several round guys.
(45:18):
It's not like you're banging out undrafted free agents. But
if you have the West Coast, you would go and
start watching the big schools, like who does sc have,
Who does Oregon have, Oregon State have, anybody? Obviously Washington, Utah?
You would start gathering and what and you've watched them
a little bit, but like studying them right now, so
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the process and then you start funneling names to your GM.
Literally during OTAs you're like, hey, check out this guy,
so he in the off season can start watching those
guys to have Penix just crop up on you. It
was just felt like they were flying by the seat
of their pants. Here's what I will say. A lot
(46:01):
of reports pen or not panics, but cousins is mad.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
You don't get to.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Be mad when you take the most money, when you
become a mercenary. Eventually the team doesn't care about you
like you think they should, because they go, that's what
the money's for. You don't get to dictate all the terms.
We gave you forty five million dollars a year. Tough shit,
suck it up. He's like, well, Minnesota was just transparent
with me. They said they were gonna draft a quarterback.
(46:27):
You guys never said shit yet we don't know you
that that's what the money's for.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
And I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Like, I don't think Atlanta should worry about cousins, like
being mad at them, but it does impact their locker room.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
It's kind of a double edged sword, like, suck it up.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Bro, you're thirty.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Five, thirty six years old, You've made three hundred million dollars,
we're about to pay you forty five a year. Play well,
but also like you're pretty dependent on his mental capacity
or mental headspace.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
For your team.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It gets back to why would you want to put
him in a weird mental space? It just feels like
poor team building. It really does set it all along.
If you could have a redo, right, a mulligan, as
we like to call it on the golf course, the
Atlanta Falcons would assign Christian Wilkins and like a Gardner
Minshew and the Raiders would assigned Kirk.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Cousins and everyone would be happy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We'd be like Gather Raiders, Davante, Bowers, Crosby might got
a little something. Instead, Raiders have bent you and the
Cardinal or the Falcons have Cousins and panics. After the draft,
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every analyst, media figure and most podcasters speak highly of
so many picks and say that so many guys are
great fits and will work out. We know that this
is historically just not true, but it is always the
same post draft formula. I refuse to believe that former
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scouts just think it's all going to go smooth. If
you had to pick a couple guys from the first
round where you say, Nope, this guy won't be getting
a second deal with this team, whether due to fit, coach, player, etc.
Who would those guys be. I know it's a bit
of a faux pas to drop specific names and just
(48:25):
say they won't work, but I'd love to hear your
honest take why. I think it's easy to be positive
in the first round because you go, all these guys
draft in the first round were good in college, I
mean really good, right, Michael Panics, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
Malik Neighbors, Roma doon z La to Byron Murphy, Like
(48:47):
all the players were fucking sweet on Saturday. Some are
a little better than others, but let's face it, if
you just look at the list, all of them all conference,
all American dominating for playoff teams or conference champion teams,
Like none of these guys, it's easy to go like, God,
(49:09):
the Bronco signed mcglinche, right, he's like did you watch
his tape last year? But you can't really say that
you could do. Nate Wiggins is a little small, but
you watched him at Clemson. He was kicking ass and
taking names. So I think that's where it's fair to go, like,
these guys are all really good players. A big reason
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guys don't work out is because of like fit or
a coach or organization. So it's you got to pick
the quarterbacks you'd go like Historically, running quarterbacks can be
pretty hit or miss. I like Adam Peters and the organization.
But you'd say you're depending on Cliff Kingsbury. That's who
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you're depending on. That's pretty risky. I could see that
one going sideways one year. Wonder Drake may needs a
lot of work. We need to break down the fundamentals
and get his feet and upper body in sync.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Well.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Belichick, Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels will do well. Actually
it's Drod Mao and Alex Van Pelt. I can see
that one going sideways pretty fast. Right the Pennock situation,
it could just what if Cousins just plays three? You know, like,
what are you doing? Where are you at? What if
he just doesn't play now? I would be stunned if
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he doesn't play earlier than later.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I would say the.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Receivers, Malik Neighbors, He's a speed wide receiver going to
a team that no quarterback and their starting quarterback coming
off in acl I think we all agree isn't very
good and not exactly Mahomes and Josh Allen throwing bombs
that could be a disaster. Lat too, who is a stud.
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If he's healthy, he's gonna dominate. Two years ago, Penix
had injuries that no one ever said you'd never play again.
He just had to rehab and get back on the field.
A doctor literally looked at him and said, you need
to retire because your neck is that messed up. Not
like your ab or a quad or something that's degenerative,
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your neck. He plays defensive line where you literally hit
your neck on an offensive lineman or running back or
tackling whoever, every single play, not even just in the games,
in every practice, your neck.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Is in a collision.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Loll I like to pick. I like the Colts, but
that's a little scary.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I mean, that's really kind of scary. And then all
these corners.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
The Eagles corner was pretty legit, but the other guys,
I mean, kool Aid had a down year. What's his
name that the Lions took uh Terry on Armstead, who
I think said that it was a coin flip between
I think in the Lions takem maybe speaking of a
turn brain's not exactly working, but it was a coin
flip the Raiders taking him at thirteen and the rape.
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Antonio Pierce came out and said, that's bs. We're always
going with Bowers. I think a lot of teams when
they talk to a guy, they're just being nice, like, listen,
we liked you a lot. It was a coin flip.
It's like, hey, I liked you a lot of just
not really in the mood for a relationship. You're just
trying to be nice to the other person. But I
think a lot of top fifteen guys cannot work out you.
(52:30):
You know, uh, Marvin Harrison, what if just Kyler keeps
getting hurt? What if Kyler got hurt again? He's been
hurt multiple times in his career. What's Larry Fitzgerald, who's
one of the greatest players ever at that position, Larry
Fitzgerald in his prime, all time great, had countless years.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
We're just playing with nobody's So.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
I've kind of been talked out of the Joe all
to everyone I know feels good about him, ability to
bend at six ' nine or six ' eight. And
if Harbball likes you, I just if Harbball likes you
as an offensive lineman, I believe you so hopefully that
was enough guys.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
To crush right there.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And again it's I say it all the time. I'm
actually much more comfortable crushing coaches in front office people
than I am players because I respect it's way harder now.
It's hard to be a coach. You know, just in
time that you spend a lot of time in the office.
But just because you spend a lot of time doing
something doesn't mean you're any good. If you play in
the NFL. Definitely, if you get draft in the first round,
(53:34):
that is an incredible accomplishment that your friends like I
can get to become an offensive coordinator because my friend
becomes the head coach, or I can become a defensive
line coach in the NFL because a guy I've known
forever becomes the defensive coordinator, doesn't mean I'm actually any good.
You can't luck into being the eighth pick or the
twelfth pick, or the thirtieth pick or the fiftieth pick.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
You have to do that on your own.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And even if you play in the NFL and struggle, like.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
How many humans you know that play in the NFL,
it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
So I have a lot of respect even for guys
that don't live up to the hype or fail. Now
if you fail like JaMarcus because you're drinking the purple
syrup whatever whatever they called that, what was that drink?
The purple drink, and you're just or Johnny Manziel, you're
bragging about doing blow and hanging out in Vegas the
night before games because you just you know, took off.
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Like I don't respect that.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
But if you're.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Legitimately trying and you're just not good enough, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
But I have I have.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
I have a ton of respect for anyone that gets
that plays in the NFL, that gets drafted in the NFL,
that holds on, who struggles like a fringe player like that.
Shit's hard, really hard, and it's cutthroat, like they'll get
rid of you at the moment's notice.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I've been part of it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I've been in these meetings like you're just you're kind
of viewed.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
As a widget. It's like you're not good enough.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Upgrade the cut this guy with the practice squad bringing
this guy kickers hurt.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Oh, we need an after extra roster spot.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Get rid of that guy. I listen to you every
podcast and respect your insight. I'm a Raider fan, But
I love Anthony Richardson. I don't like the narrative that
he's injury prone. The Colts have a history of not
protecting their quarterbacks, and I feel like if ERSA signed Taylor,
Richardson would not have had to carry the load in
the oh I think you mean, oh, sorry, you didn't
(55:20):
put a comma here. If they wouldn't assigned tailor, if
they would have signed Taylor, Richardson wouldn't have to carry
the load in the run game and he could have
had a good run at Rookie of the year. He
was running and passing because the franchise didn't protect him
and sabotaged his rookie season. What do you like about
that or what do you think about that take?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
I don't know his one.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
His shoulder injury was one of the least violent tackles
of his short career. It was pretty innocuous tackle that
gets made basically every other play in the NFL, and
it ruined a season. He had a play which he's
always going to have because he's got a little Cam
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Newton to him with his size and power in the
end zone where he I think either dove in or
got hit late, and I think he got a concussion
that he is just going to be part of some
big collisions. I do think it's part of his play
style because I think his comp is a little more
Cam Newton, and when you are Cam Newton, like I'd
run too. He's bigger and stronger than everyone else. But Cam,
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at least early on in his career, could withstand this,
and he didn't. As much. We can talk about all
we want the pussification of football. These they're not as
big and you can't hit the quarterback, but these linebackers
and safeties are all running like four fives, four fours,
(56:49):
moving at rapid speed. They're not as big as guys
in the nineties because it's more smaller in a space game,
but they're definitely running faster. So if you're getting hit,
you're just gonna take a punishment until he proves that
he can sustain. And that's that's the the worry with
any running quarterback, because there are gonna be hits that
(57:10):
you're gonna take as a running quarterback that Jared Goff
just never will take. It doesn't mean Jared Goff can't
get hurt, but there is a part of his pie
chart as a player, right, Like he can only get
hurt really in the pocket, because that's that's the only
place he is.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees the running quarterback.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Really, the whole field is up for grabs because you're
gonna scramble a lot outside of the pocket to throw. Well,
like what if you're scrambling to throw and it's Roquan
Smith out there, his ability to trigger on that and
get to you in the blink of an eye or
Fred Warner and then when there is open space, you
take off like you don't get to the sideline fast enough.
Jalen Ramsey's out there, Buckle up kid. So I think
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there's elements of a running quarterback. Some guys don't get injured.
But if you think about a lot of unning quarterbacks,
like I saw with Michael Vick, he's kind of ran
around and got injured. Lamar is great at kind of
avoiding it. Cam the pounding overtime, it's the worry with
Josh Allen. It's like the pounding over time, is it
going to catch up to him in his younger years.
It's football.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
You get hurt.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Burrow gets hurt in the pocket. I guess this calf
injury last training camp. He was scrambling around, but that
could have been a dehydration thing. But I guess my
overall point is you can't put a label on him
right injury prone not injury prone. But I do think
it's fair to say because I don't.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Think Jonathan Taylor would have impacted that much.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
I really don't, because they're gonna use his legs, maybe
a little less now that they're a little nervous. But
I think until he proves that he can just play
two months straight, it's gonna be a question once you
become like, can this guy handle it?
Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's just fair.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
That's the way people in the league talk, you know,
It's not like a narrative that only people in the
outside talking about it. Like I think if you just
pulled people in the NFL, people like him a lot.
I think he blew away people during the draft process,
like as a guy character wise, and a lot of
people I know loved his physical like people were all.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
In on him.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
And I just think that guys like that make you
nervous when they.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Get hurt early on.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
He could have eight straight years where he never gets
injured again. But if he gets injured again, like that
narrative which he created, not him, but just the situation.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Will only grow.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I think the Colts, I think they're gonna be good.
I think them and the Texans got like both of
them could be eleven.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
To twelve win teams.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Whoever doesn't win the division still could be a hell
of a team, like the Niners and Rams this year,
or the Packers and Lions. I think those two teams
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go poorly. And I've been part of different businesses over
my life, in radio and early on some startup companies
with podcasts before I got linked up with Colin that
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didn't go well, and talking to you know, my friends
in different businesses that have tried different things. From a
non entrepreneurial standpoint, try starting business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And they fail. People point fingers.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now, most of these businesses are not very public, so
you never hear about them. But we have been seeing
in professional sports when shit hits the fan, everyone points
the finger at someone else. I actually think it's kind
of a basic instinct for human beings. Think about when
you're a little kid, anyone with siblings, when you get
in trouble or with your friends, you never take responsibility.
(04:28):
You always blame someone else even if you did it,
and it's kind of a natural reaction. Now, the older
you get and more professional, some people are clearly more
cutthroat than others. They would do the Joe Peshi meme
in Goodfellas. They'll take you out to survive. And I
also think survival for a lot of people in business
(04:51):
is almost more important than their actual job performance. They'll
do whatever it takes to survive. So the easiest thing
when things are not going well, which is inevitable, I
don't care what business you're in, is to say, it's
not my fault, it's someone else's fault. I would have
done this different. Wasn't my idea. That guy screwed it up.
(05:11):
That guy's the more on we replaced that person, we
change this that I had.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We'll make it and then you can keep going down that,
you know, taking that stance the rest of your career.
And a lot of people do it. And if you
get in with the right people right, if you're an
employee and the owner likes you, that the main CEO
likes you, it's easy to do that and survive. We've
all known people that do it. I saw it in
the radio industry when I worked in it for about
(05:38):
four years with a ton of guys. It wasn't about
how good they were at their job. And I'm not
even talking about hosts. I'm talking about people that worked
for the company. It was about surviving and keeping that job,
which I understand because the number one thing that humans
the older you get. I was talking to someone about
this the other day because they thought they were getting screwed,
and I said, listen, I don't think this person's necessarily
(06:01):
trying to screw you. But first and foremost, they care
about themselves and they care about their family. And if
they view you as like, ah, you don't need the money,
you're rich, or you've made a lot of money, it's
easy to justify and ultimately, and listen, a lot of
people are like this, I have to do what I
(06:21):
have to do. And I think in sports, we've all
seen this happen forever. When teams lose GMS, coaches, players,
but mainly GMS and coaches point the finger at other
people and try to get them fired, try to get
them removed and say it was their fault. In football,
it happens all the time. The GM points the finger
(06:42):
at the coach, and if not the head coach, the coordinators,
and that's why there's constant turnover.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
At those positions.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But actually, when you have success is a time when
a lot of people, especially you know, highly public figures,
struggle with that. And I remember when I first got
into kind of radio and out of the NFL and
started doing whatever the hell I do Now. I saw
with Jed York and Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh was bigger
(07:14):
than every player on the team, and that team had
star players everywhere, and he got the majority of the credit,
and Jed York and Trent Balkey did not like that. Now,
Jed was young, and Trent who I like. I mean,
he's been cool to me in my dealings with him
over the years, but a lot of people think he's
kind of an ego crazy, you know, power hungry maniac,
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and they didn't get the credit. Jim got it all,
and then they inevitably fired Jim Harbaugh. Now, the good
thing about some of these it happened with Jerry Jones obviously,
and Jimmy Johnson, which I would say is one of
the more famous ones in NFL history, and it took
them twenty five years to get back together. And most
of this is not usually over money, because you're dealing
(08:00):
with rich people.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The money when Jimmy and Jerry broke up was a
lot different than the modern day NFL. But when you
see these things happen, specifically Bill and Craft, it has
nothing to do with one penny, let alone millions of dollars.
Craft is a billionaire and Bill is worth a shitload.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's all about ego.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And we noticed it on the roast because you're like, god,
this is kind of weird at the end, and then
Julian Edelman had drew Bledsoe on his podcast and brought
it up and he hammered it home. It's actually worse
than you think. Let's take a lessen etioned in that
room though it was, it was real cut, it was
very real.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It was real. I was so awkward.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I was like, I was watching coach and I tried
to give coach a heads up.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm like, I see Craft walk in, like he'll coach you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Know this locker room shit like five oh five oh
you know like.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
He did.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Of course he didn't fucking see it, right, and he
came in and I was like, oh shit, this could
be some fireworks.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I just walked away. To me.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The craziest part about this, let's use the Gym and
Jed York example. When those guys had their falling out
and they mutually departed aka fired Jim. Jim was like
fifty years old. Jed was in his early thirties. Time
was on their side, and a couple of years ago
they had a reunion for like the twenty twelve team
(09:30):
that lost in the Super Bowl, and Jim came and
now everyone's friends.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm not saying they're BFFs. They're not sending each other
Christmas cards. Probably maybe they do, but it's like time happens.
I remember being a kid and having some family issues,
not with my immediate family, but just uncles and aunts
and people not talking, and think, of God, this is
pretty chaotic. This is in my close couple friends didn't
(09:55):
really have that. And then the older you get, you
meet a bunch more people you realize, yeah, I wasn't alone.
Happens to a lot of people. Most people's family, I
think we could say, in some form or fashion, kind
of messed up.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
There is no perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Family, and it makes you realize, yeah, And over time
everyone gets back together, hopefully and you figure things out
and it might never be the same, but it's not
as acrimonious as it once was. Why Because over time
brings your perspective. You realize life short at what were
we actually arguing over? What were our actual issues? And
(10:31):
you put them aside. You know, Jerry, I would say
as probably, if not the biggest, one of the biggest
egos in the league, and Jimmy probably does two and
it took them twenty five years. But when they broke up,
both guys, I didn't write down their age, but I
would guess, you know, mid forties, late or late forties,
early fifties. So if they're gonna live till they're eighty
(10:54):
or eighty five, like they got some time and they
finally got back together, Check and Craft, who clearly despise
each other. Craft has hated him and told people publicly.
It's been well reported on for a long long time.
Can't stand him and like Bill's not.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The easiest guy to deal with.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Fired is one thing. Listen, teams struggle, guys get fired,
Welcome to pro sports. But that documentary was an all
time FU to Bill, and Bill even use it in
the roast. Here's the problem. I don't see any making up.
Bill is seventy two, seventy three years old. Robert Kraft
(11:38):
is eighty two. One of these guys is going to
take this situation to the grave cause it ain't getting fixed.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It just is not.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I think it makes you realize most things end
pretty poorly. Most great things kind of crash and burn
in the history of time, right, Jews is an analogy
all the time, well even roam Pell.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You see it with some.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Of these companies, like is Apple going to stay on
top forever?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
History of time would show you that's not usually the
way it works out. And you look at this situation,
they saw unprecedented success and ultimately their downfall wasn't the
last couple of years of losing, which sucked.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
But it's football. You have some bad years, like.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Andy had a couple bad years in Philadelphia. Him and
Jeffrey Larry are still good buddies. It was about Robert
Kraft's refusal because ultimately we can argue to what blue
in the face Brady Belichick Belichick Brady, We know both
guys had a big role. However you want to put
it on the pipe chart sixty forty Brady, seventy thirty Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Fifty to fifty. It was those two guys.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Robert Craft, let's face, it didn't do a goddamn thing
and that bothered him, just like bother Jerry back in
the day, why he wanted to be the star and
let's face it, Robert Craft kind of likes being a star.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He kind of does.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He likes being a big deal. Look at who he's
running around with, Robert Craft. I never see him runn
around with other guys eighty years old. He likes running
around the cool guys. He likes trying to be a
real cool guy.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And it seemed like people.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Have liked him over the years, but in this situation,
like I'm sorry, just give him.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
His flowers and move on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
But that Craft family clearly right now hates him. And
I would say, based on Belichick's history, pretty petty guy.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Not one to just be.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like, yeah, I messed up, screwed up, My bad, my bad.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's eighty two years old.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
If he lives three more years, that's an incredible life.
How many people you know lived till eighty five?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Short list?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
My dad didn't sniff eighty five. So you just kind
of sad, but also pretty predictable. The Bulls we saw
that last dance, all those guys they hated the GM.
Michael doesn't ever do anything with the Bulls. Scotti and
Michael hate each other. It's all over egos because it's
(14:11):
easy to point the finger at someone else when things
are shitty. What about when things go great? Who actually
gets the credit? And it's a downfall of all of
ours because we all like to raise our hand and
probably get more credit than we deserve. Netflix. I defended
Amazon Prime a couple of years ago when they got
Thursday Night Football, and I even defended Peacock last year
(14:34):
when a lot of people push back. I understand not
everyone has unlimited money to buy all these things, but
the reality of the television industry is the cable box
is doa and it's never coming back. What we have
gotten used to over the last fifteen twenty years is
(14:55):
never going to be the same. So the world we
live in right now, we're at the early stages. Even
though Netflix has been around a while and Hulu and
some of these companies now it's not like they're one
year old, but their impact when it comes to the
way we consume things is.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At the very very beginning.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And Boomerosiasin said on his radio show that look for
Netflix to get the Christmas Games, and most people.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Be like, oh, why don't you put it on CBS?
Put it on ABC.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You do understand that those channels how we view them,
right now, there's a chance in ten years they will
not be around. There's a chance in five years it's
not even possible to get the cable box. It will
not exist. It probably will, But if you don't think
there's a chance, then I don't know what world you're
(15:51):
living in.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I understand that, depending on where you live, having the
power of the Internet is in portant to streaming on
your television, and that impacts how you are as a viewer,
and that sucks. I can't relate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Because I spent a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I have the good Internet now, granted I need it
for my job. But Netflix is gonna get a Christmas game.
It clearly looks like and I actually think that Tom
brady roast is a good example. And I always use
me as a consumer. My mom watches Netflix every day.
(16:29):
She's in her mid seventies. When I lay down at
bed at night, like when we get in bed, after
you brush your teeth or whatever, you're just gonna watch
a television show. We never go to YouTube TV, which
is obviously not the cable box, but just where you
would watch television. The first place we go, and I
think the first place most people go is Netflix. I
(16:52):
have sympathy if you had to download and pay for
the Peacock app, because that's not something that everyone has
and is like consistantly and everyone's home. It's in mind
because she loves whether it's below Deck or summer House
to some of the Bravo shows. And I would imagine
a lot of people my age, either their girlfriend or
wife uses Peacock heavily because of that catalog. I don't
(17:13):
really watch it beside for it usually has golf stuff
for like the US Open, so I've used it before,
but I don't think we can say that about Netflix.
And I actually think Tom Brady the Roast is a
good example. It'll be fascinating once the news finally leaks
of how many people have watched that show, if it
ever does. But I think a large contingent of people
(17:37):
just stumbled upon it, like in nineteen ninety eight when
I would just stumble upon, oh the Grammys are on,
or oh the Oscars are on, or oh this show
was on, which used to happen and doesn't really happen anymore.
But the one thing Netflix has, being by far the
biggest streaming service, is the power to control everything. Whenever
(18:00):
I see the top ten trending. Are they really the
top ten trending or those the ones they want to
put right there, the most popular ten movies going right now?
Are those actually the most watched movies right now? Or
is that what they want to promote and their power
to promote this and that Brady thing. It really stood
out like they could easily get in bed with Monday
(18:23):
night or Sunday Night football when everyone's sitting down turning
on Netflix, Boom, Sunday Night Football on, everyone's sitting down
turning on Boom. Monday Night Football is on. And Amazon
Prime was kind of the first mover when it came
to getting involved from a streaming platform with the NFL
and Thursday night football. Let's face it, I'm not saying
(18:45):
like the broadcast, I wish it was a little better,
but just talking about the product, how easy it is
to consume for me at least and I think most people,
because last year at average thirteen million people is a
great example. Well, guess what is way more popular as
a streaming service than Amazon Prime. Netflix? And like Amazon
(19:06):
who is flush with unlimited money.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Netflix.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So when you look at this next television deal, I
think these partners are in major trouble. NBC is bleeding
money right now, and if they spend all this on
the NBA, which rumors are they might, they will have
no choice but to be aggressive for the NFL, just
like all these networks, they need them. But how can
(19:32):
you compete against Netflix? If Apple wanted it, you can't
compete against them. There is no competition. It's like putting
a Walmart next to your little mom and pop shop.
Business is usually done within twelve months. They have absolutely
no shot and Netflix is proven with that. To me,
(19:52):
that Tom Brady roast that like live events can really work.
Now the logistics of would they have to get their
their own you know broadcasters. Could they just do a
partnership with Fox or CBS and just use one of
their crews, which I think they gladly would, or maybe
(20:13):
they will just get into the business on their own
and buy some trucks and kind of get it dip
their toe. They really can do whatever they want. And
I've been saying this forever that the Jerry Jones generation
of Jerry Jones, robber Craft, the older owners, the Rooneyes,
h just the Maras are going to be very very
(20:36):
loyal to CBS, to NBC to ABC. Their children simply
will not, And honestly, it doesn't even make sense for
the older generation though. They can look at the traditional
broadcast partners as the ones who's made them billions, the
ones who essentially bought their yachts, But younger generations aren't
(20:59):
loyal when it comes to business.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I saw with my.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Parents they would use the same people to do the
same things, no matter what it's like, Mom, you're gonna
redo the kitchen. This guy's like screwed up three kitchens. Well,
we've known this guy for twenty five years. He's a good, close, personal.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Friend of your dad. We're gonna use him.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's not really how me or my friends are wired,
just cause I know you. If your work's not good,
if your price is too hig, I'll go with someone else.
And you look at the age of some of these
up and coming kids. They're not twenty years old, but
they're not seventy. And these companies are going to be
able to throw astronomical amounts of money out there. And
(21:42):
I just think that the next go around, the way
we're consuming these these NFL games in twenty thirty will
not look anywhere near like we're doing it now, and
they've dipped their tote enough to start, and they're only
getting more and more aggressive. Amazon Prime Thursday Night YouTube
TV gets the package. Buckle up because I'm actually excited.
(22:06):
I actually think it's easier. Okay, Fugazi Friday will bank
some out. It's funny the some of you get, some
people push back, some people get angry. It's like, God, everyone,
this is just it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's not that big a deal.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know. First, Fugazi Friday, hope this makes the pod.
If you did have hair, because the one thing consistently
with Fugazi Friday, everybody forwards.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Me tipping memes, tipping reels.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The tipping thing is I think one thing we all
relate to. If you did have hair, would you tip
your barber ten bucks if it already costs twenty five
to cut your hair. I'm asking because I usually tip
my guy ten after I pay twenty five, and he's
been cutting hair for over five years now, so I
figured it's just a better service. But since watching your
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rants on the tipping culture, I've been questioning it. Your thoughts, well,
I haven't had hair since twenty.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Eleven, so we're going on a while I've been bald.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And sometimes, you know, as you age, the longer you
get away from something, you start thinking like, what was
that like? Definitely, whether it's looking back on memories from
college or someone you dated, or you know, a trip
you went on, you have the good parts of the memory,
but there's a lot missing. Maybe that's just me. Maybe
my brain's just kind of doesn't have the capacity of.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Some of you guys.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I can't even remember what it was like sitting in.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A chair and getting my haircut. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I remember being a kid and my dad taking me
to the Wrestler Brothers. It was these two guys and
Davis that had you know, it was the equivalent of
like a sports bar, but it was a barber shop.
It was cool back then. You know, haircut costs, and
I think my dad would just give the guy a
twenty and would just, you know, classic, just give me
a buzz cut every time pisses me off. Thinking about
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all I wanted was long hair and you never would
let me grow it out. But uh, and then you know, obviously,
then I get older, I don't even have hair. I
think it's more than fair.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And this is the whole thing with.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Tippingal The only fugazis with tipping is when you're like, God,
this service was terrible. Part of giving someone extra money
is like, God, you earn that. And I think with
a haircut, and again it's hard for me to speak
because I shaved my head in a shower, is that. Yeah,
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I think one hundred percent you should tip the guy.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Hell, if you.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Really like the guy, I'd get him like a you know,
one hundred dollars gift card at the end of the year,
especially if you go all the time. I'd say twenty
five dollars haircut in twenty twenty four seems like a
pretty good deal, not really in the mix of the
price points for the service, but especially if you liked
the guy we got. I got a lot of DMS
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on the fugazis of weddings and the prices, So here's one.
Just watch Fugazi Friday. I think big weddings are a fugazi.
My wife and I got married in twenty one and
COVID gave us an out from having a big, expensive wedding.
We rented a huge house with a pool in a
in Cape Coral and had our immediate family and close
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friends come down probably thirty five people total cost us
maybe seventy five hundred dollars, and everyone said it was
the best wedding they've ever been to. I think weddings
are just very.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Very personal, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I understand people complaining on Friday weddings because you
got to take time off work and especially if you're
in it to get to the rehearsal dinner. But I
defended that given the cost of it, and let's face it,
I had someone who's having these conversations.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
There are much different.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Wants and needs, usually of the men and the woman.
So I understand it. And depending on your family situation,
I saw someone else reach out as like, yeah, these
I mean, I trust me. I've been to a couple
of stores these rings, So it's not even just the wedding,
it's the cost of a ring. They are not cheap either,
so you factor in all these costs. That's how I
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would do it the way that you just described it.
But I understand if she wants a great wedding and
her family has the money for it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I think the costs of everything, I just understand all
the sides. When it comes to this fugazi Friday, the
Lakers firing Darvin Ham Like, it's not the front office's
fault for not giving him braun an ad more help
to beat the best team in the NBA, I think anytime.
And this is my favorite part about the NBA. The
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Suns a couple hours ago just fired Frank Vogel. Is
when a coach is hired and these talking show the
talk shows that talk about the NBA act like it
one hundred percent, Like, think about this. The Bucks have
fired multiple coaches in like twelve months. That's a Jannis
Antta kumpo. Whenever a Lebron coach gets fired, that is
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Lebron James. Now sometimes it's right, maybe the guy's not
any good. But Kevin Durant just and Devin Booker just
got Frank Vogel fired. That's the way the NBA works,
which is what I like about the NFL. If you
get fired as a coach in the NFL, your relationships
with players good and bad, it's it's kind of irrelevant.
(27:43):
If you win on Sunday, you will keep your job.
If you lose, you will not. If your offense or defense,
if you're a coordinator, is not good, you're done. Whether
guys like you or they don't like you. It's very
very you know, black and white. We're in the NBA.
It's like, eh, both those situations with the Lakers and
(28:03):
the Suns, they weren't even into the locker room as
they lost their series, and Shams came out with articles
about both, about the deterioration of the relationship, about the schemes,
about the rotations. It's like, this is I mean, and
I'm not saying these guys are Phil Jackson in his prime,
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but holy shit, like no one is winning with the
Kevin Durant situation at this point in time. He just
wants to show up, score some points, go home, get high.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Lebron and Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
The team the third best player or fourth best players,
D'Angelo Russell. But this is what happens. We talked about
early pointing the finger. Polink Ain't Polinko always point the finger.
The guy's running through coaches like Matt he could say, well,
it's my job to keep up the relationship with Lebron.
It's just so fake because the players, the star players
(28:57):
who get the coach fired, they never admit to it.
They never admit to it. Where it's like, what are
we fucking talk?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We know you got him fired, we know you did.
I would respect him.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's like, listen, I didn't think he was any good,
he didn't know what he was doing. I didn't respect him.
At the end, he had to go at them. We've
all thought that about our bosses. Most human beings don't
have the juice to fire their boss. We all of
us have worked for incompetent people. Darvin Ham had them
in the Western Conference finals last year. Frank Vogel's proven
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to be pretty good. So you get with most of
these star players, the moment they want you gone, You're gone.
It's just that simple. It has nothing to me to
do with the front office. The moment Kevin Duran or
Devin Booker goes to the owner says I want this
guy gone, he's gone. I got a Fugazi Friday for
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you paying for Spotify Premium and using to listen to
music and podcasts ad free. Then turn around and the
podcast start with six minutes of ads. Well, here's the thing,
how can Spotify if I read ads in my podcast,
in my content? They can't cut it out. Those ads
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for us in the podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Business pay a lot, so there.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's not even a hack. It's just the business. They
control ads that they put in. So if I put
this podcast on Spotify, you, I'm sure will hear ads
that aren't my voice, and if you pay for the premium,
Spotify will take that out. But if I read an ad,
they can't remove that. So it's we've learned ways to
(30:45):
get away around that. So I feel you luckily, and
I'm not. I've said this, I'm not a cheap guy,
but I don't pay for any ad free on any
of those. I'll just be like at the gym, listen
to Pandora, and all of a sudden I'll get an
AD for some you know, barbecue joint in Fresno. Because
back in the day when I signed up for Pandora
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in like twenty ten, i lived in Fresno. So still
to this.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Day, fifteen fourteen years later, I still.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Get Fresno ads, you know, between sets, between like you know,
it depends how three or four songs. Sometimes if you
skip too much, they'll show you an AD. Not I'm
not paying for ad free. I'm loving the Fugazi Fridays.
I have one that I've been meaning throughout for a
while and finally remembered to share comments sections. Honestly, what
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are we doing? You read these, whether it's Twitter or Facebook, YouTube,
et cetera, it's always either I like this or some
something negative like your content sucks, which is even funny
because that means that person is actually tuning in to
something they don't like. Sometimes you have the crowd that
chimes in I totally agree, and then proceeds to restate
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the same point as the podcaster, like they're trying to
make it about them. Very rarely does anyone actually chime
in with a new perspective, and even then I just
don't understand the mindset it takes to shout these things
into the Internet void for a few strangers and likely bots.
Maybe I'm crazy. My thing with YouTube is I love
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listening to live music. So if you just type in
whatever you want to hear, and I like typing in
whoever the artist is acoustic, right if I'm in the mood.
If I hear a song at the gym and I
get back, it's like boom Bomb acoustic or boom Boom live,
and all the comments will be like, let's just use
an example, like let's just say I throw on like Metallica,
(32:42):
Metallica Acoustic. Turn the page from like nineteen ninety nine
or you know an old video. All the comments if
you just search newest will be like remember when music
was great?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You just don't hear music liked.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All these losers now playing music would die to sound
everything in a weird way is like complimentary but a shot.
It's like, yeah, it was just a good song, Like
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Music today music always?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Do you know what's funny is I remember driving around
with my dad a lot when I was a kid.
He was a farmer, so I used to take me
to the fields and stuff, bonding whatever, drive around, and
he listened to music from the sixties and the seventies
when he was young and growing up. And for the
most part, especially when I was really young, I was like,
this music sucks.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And then the older you get, you're like.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
God, I like that music and you can easily listen
to it. And he thought the same about mine.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's like, what the fuck are you listening to?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It'd be like a you know, doggy style from Snoop Dogg,
like throw on track three, dad, you know, and he
just didn't like it. But as you get older, you
kind of like what your parents listen to, you like
what you grew up listening to, and then the new
music now. I like, I was thinking about this today
in the shower.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Do new bands exist? Like?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Do new bands like Nirvana, Pearl, Jam, Metallica and obviously
go back well before them?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Whoever?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Bands from the eighties? Then it just felt like the seventies, Ozzie.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You name it, They're just bands. Do bands exists?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like rappers still exists? A country music stars still exists?
I also thought do R and B singers still exist?
When I was a kid, one O two five in
Sacramento was the big like I would say hip hop channel,
but for every rap song there were multiple R and
B songs played.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
R and B was huge in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Does that genre exist anymore? I mean they were some
of the biggest stars in music. Boys the Men easily
is one of the biggest groups of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Any genre.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
When when Eddie de Bartolow when the forty nine ers
shut down Candlestick in what was the last year he
was playing there, twenty thirteen is the It was the
game where Navarro Bowman picked off Matt Ryan the pick
of the stick.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It was sweet.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I was on the field. It was badass. I was
standing right next to Chris Berman. It's one of the
coolest moments in my sport life. I remember looking up
the place going nuts. They had a huge like after
everyone stayed, they had a stage. Eddie de Bartelow's favorite band,
I guess was Boys to the Men and they played a
bunch of songs. I think the bass guy is like,
I don't know if he got sick or you're not
even in the group anymore. But it was only three
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of them. But it hit me the other day like
it doesn't exist. But I'm telling you, if you're my
age or older, go listen to a song from like
the seventies, eighties, nineties, whatever, and just look at all
the comments. It basically is just shitting on music today.
And I've never understood, Like I've always liked music, Like
what kind of music you listened to? I'm like, whatever's good,
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Like I listened to more often than not certain things.
But if something is good, I'm gonna like it. But
yet it feels like, at least on the internet, everyone
just talking shit. And let's face it, pep are kind
of angry. Most people aren't happy. Hell I'm sometimes I
wake up today, as a good example, just woke up.
I wasn't that happy, didn't feel like smiling, just felt
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like not having a bad day. But I wasn't gonna
have a great day, not from a production standpoint, but
just from uh, I'm not gonna be in a good mood.
I just kind of want to be in a bad mood.
If I was the equivalent of that, my comments would
be negative. And I think majority of people that comment
are just in a bad frame of mind. So I'm
with you now that that's why I don't even spend
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that much time on Twitter anymore, because it's been it's
been the same now for like a decade. It's just
a bunch of I've always said it's the radicals country
club because there's no entry free, no entry fee. So
anyone who's angry and obsessed with whatever spends time there
and just fucking talk shit. It's all useless and pointless.
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It's just irrelevant at the end of the day too,
So I just I don't spend.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Very much time in there anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I spend way more time on YouTube. But you can
it's easier to avoid the comments there because the point
of the app is the video, but when you go
through the comments, like, it's kind of the same thing. Now,
sometimes you get a powerful thing like hey, this song
really helped me get through a tough time Like that,
that's powerful. I think you get some of that too,
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But I'm with you. I just think comments in general,
you know, tend to be pretty negative. Fugazi Friday watching
First Take this morning, and one of the topics was
the WNBA committing fifty million dollars for charter flights, so
meaning the NBA is helping out. Lol. It's hilarious to
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me with some of these topics for professional women's sports,
like why can't we just be honest like we do
in men's sports. I'm not saying these girls or gals
aren't professionals or good athletes, but let's be real about it.
The best way to actually help women's sports succeed is
to move the WNBA and soccer teams to smaller cities.
We don't have any professional team, and I would bet
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that they would be much more successful and popular because
people actually go to the games. I thought one of
the dumbest things I've ever seen in my entire life
was the reaction to Caitlin Clark's contract. Like, you guys know,
this league's never turned to profit. Ethan Strauss has been
writing about it forever. That the reason that you see
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the ads because if me and you own a company
and we buy fifty million dollars worth of advertising for
the NBA, it's built into the contract that the WNBA
gets it two but the money is going to the NBA,
who is subsidized in the WNBA. Now for the first time,
for the first time, there is someone that I would
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say universally people are interested in the college women's basketball
has had great players for decades, I mean superstar players, right,
they were very famous in the sporting world. I think
Caitlyn Clark has passed that. Now you get that level
of hype or you got to live up to it.
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And if you do, I think she could help the
WNBA out a lot, at least for her team and
whenever she's playing.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And I'm gonna pay attention, but.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You couldn't pay me, like the majority people I know
to watch one of those games that doesn't have her Yet,
all these women associated with the WNBA, we're all like
taking shots at her, Like, are are you guys morons?
She is your opportunity to be a rocket ship, to
make way more money, to bring way more people into
the sport. Again, I hate comparing her to this, but
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I remember when Tiger Woods got on the scene. All
the old stiff you know guys on tour, we're all
talking shit about him. It's like, do you realize if
he's good, his importance to your bank account it will
grow dramatically. Everyone's like, I can't believe Caitlin Clark's making
seventy five grand. Well the industry she works and makes
no money, Like, what do you think is going on
(39:59):
the investment The banker at twenty five makes one hundred
and fifty grand, Well, yeah, he works for Chase Bank.
They're printing cash. And this is why does Tatum make
fifty million? Because the NBA makes whatever, five billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Never understood people screaming.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
About salaries or equality of pay in terms of sports.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Like it's pretty black and white.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's all based on revenue, how most industries are. I
can't speak to everyone, but I'm with you. I mean,
I'm rooting for Caitlin Clark to succeed, not because I
care about the WNBA, because I think she's an interesting story,
and if she is awesome and a superstar, I'll pay attention,
just like I'm sure many people listening. It doesn't mean
(40:43):
I'm gonna watch every one of her dribbles, but the
more and more they've never had me, and I may
die hard. I've literally dedicated my life talking about and
working in sports and they've never had me. And now
they finally get me, and people go on television and
like start pushing back against her, like, God, you guys
are such morons. You guys, if any of you guys
ran a business, all of you would be out of it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You guys would go bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And it just shows you like they've been you know,
the NBA give David Stern credit for creating this and
Adam Solber for promoting it, but you need star power
and she is that. So the charter flights like that
was another story. It's like, yeah, they don't have charter flights?
What business that doesn't make any money? Charters flights, Elizabeth
(41:28):
Thanos SBF even though he actually sneaking making money, he
was just also siphoning money.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
That's a whole another story. But yeah, I don't get hell.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'd love to fly private too. Don't make enough to
do that, so I'll get on Southwest for one hundred
fifty bucks. Okay, middle Cooff mailbag at John Middlecoff at
John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get
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your question on the show. We will start with Alex.
Who was more important to their sport Michael Jordan or
Tiger Woods and why shout out to my friend Harrison
who introduced me to three and out shout out Harrison,
good looking bro. I don't even think this is a question,
and I would say on the aggregate, Michael Jordan is
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obviously bigger than Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It just didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think Michael Jordan, at least in my life, is
easily the biggest athlete ever you could argue in the
history of time. But Michael Jordan inherited a bird magic
NBA that was starting to gain a lot of traction,
had a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
The sport was not not making.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You know, trajectory up. So to me, while Michael was
enormous in his impact as you factory in like shoes
and stuff, but like I said the other day on Tiger,
his impact on business casual changed society. Someone sent me
a DM the other day that was like, that was
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dead on that. That is the look. It's the Khaki
polo look. So to me, when you factor in the sport,
Tiger didn't move the needle. He was the needle. He
literally changed golf. Michael didn't change basketball, he just elevated
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it very, very highly. But because Tiger took over something
that was much lower, it's to me it just has
to be him. And we've seen versions of Michael since.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I mean, Kobe was a massive, massive star. Obviously, Lebron
and Steph.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Were never sniffing Tiger again, not even close. What sucks
because we're better off with stars, and it's one of
the reasons, you know, golf is hurting. It's one of
these reasons these other sports they just get such famous
stars so fast. You know, football creates them quickly, and
the NBA creates them quickly too. The NBA, though, sometimes
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tries to tell you someone's better than they are, but
eventually the cream rises. Question for the back, the Falcons
draft Pennis and claim their plan is for Cousins to
be good and Penis to start in four or five years.
So Plan A was to keep Pennix from going to
(44:34):
a team where he could play right away. Plan B
was the bench Cousins and light one hundred million dollars
on fire. This sounds like what you would do if
you hated Cousins, Pennis and the Falcons and wanted to
make them suffer. I'm having Michael Lombardi on the podcast
and he's been talking about.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
This for a while.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The whole point of a front office, Like all these
scouts right now, the draft just ended, they will start
like diving in headfirst to the prospects this fall, right now,
writing reports, getting initial information right now, banging out especially
on the top guys, right the top, several round guys.
(45:18):
It's not like you're banging out undrafted free agents. But
if you have the West Coast, you would go and
start watching the big schools, like who does sc have,
Who does Oregon have, Oregon State have, anybody? Obviously Washington, Utah?
You would start gathering and what and you've watched them
a little bit, but like studying them right now, so
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the process and then you start funneling names to your GM.
Literally during OTAs you're like, hey, check out this guy,
so he in the off season can start watching those
guys to have Penix just crop up on you. It
was just felt like they were flying by the seat
of their pants. Here's what I will say. A lot
(46:01):
of reports pen or not panics, but cousins is mad.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
You don't get to.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Be mad when you take the most money, when you
become a mercenary. Eventually the team doesn't care about you
like you think they should, because they go, that's what
the money's for. You don't get to dictate all the terms.
We gave you forty five million dollars a year. Tough shit,
suck it up. He's like, well, Minnesota was just transparent
with me. They said they were gonna draft a quarterback.
(46:27):
You guys never said shit yet we don't know you
that that's what the money's for.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
And I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Like, I don't think Atlanta should worry about cousins, like
being mad at them, but it does impact their locker room.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So it's it's tough.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
It's kind of a double edged sword, like, suck it up.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Bro, you're thirty.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Five, thirty six years old, You've made three hundred million dollars,
we're about to pay you forty five a year. Play well,
but also like you're pretty dependent on his mental capacity
or mental headspace.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
For your team.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It gets back to why would you want to put
him in a weird mental space? It just feels like
poor team building. It really does set it all along.
If you could have a redo, right, a mulligan, as
we like to call it on the golf course, the
Atlanta Falcons would assign Christian Wilkins and like a Gardner
Minshew and the Raiders would assigned Kirk.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Cousins and everyone would be happy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We'd be like Gather Raiders, Davante, Bowers, Crosby might got
a little something. Instead, Raiders have bent you and the
Cardinal or the Falcons have Cousins and panics. After the draft,
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every analyst, media figure and most podcasters speak highly of
so many picks and say that so many guys are
great fits and will work out. We know that this
is historically just not true, but it is always the
same post draft formula. I refuse to believe that former
(48:04):
scouts just think it's all going to go smooth. If
you had to pick a couple guys from the first
round where you say, Nope, this guy won't be getting
a second deal with this team, whether due to fit, coach, player, etc.
Who would those guys be. I know it's a bit
of a faux pas to drop specific names and just
(48:25):
say they won't work, but I'd love to hear your
honest take why. I think it's easy to be positive
in the first round because you go, all these guys
draft in the first round were good in college, I
mean really good, right, Michael Panics, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
Malik Neighbors, Roma doon z La to Byron Murphy, Like
(48:47):
all the players were fucking sweet on Saturday. Some are
a little better than others, but let's face it, if
you just look at the list, all of them all conference,
all American dominating for playoff teams or conference champion teams,
Like none of these guys, it's easy to go like, God,
(49:09):
the Bronco signed mcglinche, right, he's like did you watch
his tape last year? But you can't really say that
you could do. Nate Wiggins is a little small, but
you watched him at Clemson. He was kicking ass and
taking names. So I think that's where it's fair to go, like,
these guys are all really good players. A big reason
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guys don't work out is because of like fit or
a coach or organization. So it's you got to pick
the quarterbacks you'd go like Historically, running quarterbacks can be
pretty hit or miss. I like Adam Peters and the organization.
But you'd say you're depending on Cliff Kingsbury. That's who
(49:51):
you're depending on. That's pretty risky. I could see that
one going sideways one year. Wonder Drake may needs a
lot of work. We need to break down the fundamentals
and get his feet and upper body in sync.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Well.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Belichick, Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels will do well. Actually
it's Drod Mao and Alex Van Pelt. I can see
that one going sideways pretty fast. Right the Pennock situation,
it could just what if Cousins just plays three? You know, like,
what are you doing? Where are you at? What if
he just doesn't play now? I would be stunned if
(50:31):
he doesn't play earlier than later.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I would say the.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Receivers, Malik Neighbors, He's a speed wide receiver going to
a team that no quarterback and their starting quarterback coming
off in acl I think we all agree isn't very
good and not exactly Mahomes and Josh Allen throwing bombs
that could be a disaster. Lat too, who is a stud.
(50:56):
If he's healthy, he's gonna dominate. Two years ago, Penix
had injuries that no one ever said you'd never play again.
He just had to rehab and get back on the field.
A doctor literally looked at him and said, you need
to retire because your neck is that messed up. Not
like your ab or a quad or something that's degenerative,
(51:18):
your neck. He plays defensive line where you literally hit
your neck on an offensive lineman or running back or
tackling whoever, every single play, not even just in the games,
in every practice, your neck.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Is in a collision.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Loll I like to pick. I like the Colts, but
that's a little scary.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I mean, that's really kind of scary. And then all
these corners.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
The Eagles corner was pretty legit, but the other guys,
I mean, kool Aid had a down year. What's his
name that the Lions took uh Terry on Armstead, who
I think said that it was a coin flip between
I think in the Lions takem maybe speaking of a
turn brain's not exactly working, but it was a coin
flip the Raiders taking him at thirteen and the rape.
(52:07):
Antonio Pierce came out and said, that's bs. We're always
going with Bowers. I think a lot of teams when
they talk to a guy, they're just being nice, like, listen,
we liked you a lot. It was a coin flip.
It's like, hey, I liked you a lot of just
not really in the mood for a relationship. You're just
trying to be nice to the other person. But I
think a lot of top fifteen guys cannot work out you.
(52:30):
You know, uh, Marvin Harrison, what if just Kyler keeps
getting hurt? What if Kyler got hurt again? He's been
hurt multiple times in his career. What's Larry Fitzgerald, who's
one of the greatest players ever at that position, Larry
Fitzgerald in his prime, all time great, had countless years.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
We're just playing with nobody's So.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
I've kind of been talked out of the Joe all
to everyone I know feels good about him, ability to
bend at six ' nine or six ' eight. And
if Harbball likes you, I just if Harbball likes you
as an offensive lineman, I believe you so hopefully that
was enough guys.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
To crush right there.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And again it's I say it all the time. I'm
actually much more comfortable crushing coaches in front office people
than I am players because I respect it's way harder now.
It's hard to be a coach. You know, just in
time that you spend a lot of time in the office.
But just because you spend a lot of time doing
something doesn't mean you're any good. If you play in
the NFL. Definitely, if you get draft in the first round,
(53:34):
that is an incredible accomplishment that your friends like I
can get to become an offensive coordinator because my friend
becomes the head coach, or I can become a defensive
line coach in the NFL because a guy I've known
forever becomes the defensive coordinator, doesn't mean I'm actually any good.
You can't luck into being the eighth pick or the
twelfth pick, or the thirtieth pick or the fiftieth pick.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
You have to do that on your own.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And even if you play in the NFL and struggle, like.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
How many humans you know that play in the NFL,
it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
So I have a lot of respect even for guys
that don't live up to the hype or fail. Now
if you fail like JaMarcus because you're drinking the purple
syrup whatever whatever they called that, what was that drink?
The purple drink, and you're just or Johnny Manziel, you're
bragging about doing blow and hanging out in Vegas the
night before games because you just you know, took off.
(54:25):
Like I don't respect that.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
But if you're.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Legitimately trying and you're just not good enough, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
But I have I have.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
I have a ton of respect for anyone that gets
that plays in the NFL, that gets drafted in the NFL,
that holds on, who struggles like a fringe player like that.
Shit's hard, really hard, and it's cutthroat, like they'll get
rid of you at the moment's notice.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I've been part of it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I've been in these meetings like you're just you're kind
of viewed.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
As a widget. It's like you're not good enough.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Upgrade the cut this guy with the practice squad bringing
this guy kickers hurt.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Oh, we need an after extra roster spot.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Get rid of that guy. I listen to you every
podcast and respect your insight. I'm a Raider fan, But
I love Anthony Richardson. I don't like the narrative that
he's injury prone. The Colts have a history of not
protecting their quarterbacks, and I feel like if ERSA signed Taylor,
Richardson would not have had to carry the load in
the oh I think you mean, oh, sorry, you didn't
(55:20):
put a comma here. If they wouldn't assigned tailor, if
they would have signed Taylor, Richardson wouldn't have to carry
the load in the run game and he could have
had a good run at Rookie of the year. He
was running and passing because the franchise didn't protect him
and sabotaged his rookie season. What do you like about
that or what do you think about that take?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
I don't know his one.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
His shoulder injury was one of the least violent tackles
of his short career. It was pretty innocuous tackle that
gets made basically every other play in the NFL, and
it ruined a season. He had a play which he's
always going to have because he's got a little Cam
(56:03):
Newton to him with his size and power in the
end zone where he I think either dove in or
got hit late, and I think he got a concussion
that he is just going to be part of some
big collisions. I do think it's part of his play
style because I think his comp is a little more
Cam Newton, and when you are Cam Newton, like I'd
run too. He's bigger and stronger than everyone else. But Cam,
(56:26):
at least early on in his career, could withstand this,
and he didn't. As much. We can talk about all
we want the pussification of football. These they're not as
big and you can't hit the quarterback, but these linebackers
and safeties are all running like four fives, four fours,
(56:49):
moving at rapid speed. They're not as big as guys
in the nineties because it's more smaller in a space game,
but they're definitely running faster. So if you're getting hit,
you're just gonna take a punishment until he proves that
he can sustain. And that's that's the the worry with
any running quarterback, because there are gonna be hits that
(57:10):
you're gonna take as a running quarterback that Jared Goff
just never will take. It doesn't mean Jared Goff can't
get hurt, but there is a part of his pie
chart as a player, right, Like he can only get
hurt really in the pocket, because that's that's the only
place he is.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees the running quarterback.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Really, the whole field is up for grabs because you're
gonna scramble a lot outside of the pocket to throw. Well,
like what if you're scrambling to throw and it's Roquan
Smith out there, his ability to trigger on that and
get to you in the blink of an eye or
Fred Warner and then when there is open space, you
take off like you don't get to the sideline fast enough.
Jalen Ramsey's out there, Buckle up kid. So I think
(57:54):
there's elements of a running quarterback. Some guys don't get injured.
But if you think about a lot of unning quarterbacks,
like I saw with Michael Vick, he's kind of ran
around and got injured. Lamar is great at kind of
avoiding it. Cam the pounding overtime, it's the worry with
Josh Allen. It's like the pounding over time, is it
going to catch up to him in his younger years.
It's football.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
You get hurt.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Burrow gets hurt in the pocket. I guess this calf
injury last training camp. He was scrambling around, but that
could have been a dehydration thing. But I guess my
overall point is you can't put a label on him
right injury prone not injury prone. But I do think
it's fair to say because I don't.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Think Jonathan Taylor would have impacted that much.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
I really don't, because they're gonna use his legs, maybe
a little less now that they're a little nervous. But
I think until he proves that he can just play
two months straight, it's gonna be a question once you
become like, can this guy handle it?
Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's just fair.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
That's the way people in the league talk, you know,
It's not like a narrative that only people in the
outside talking about it. Like I think if you just
pulled people in the NFL, people like him a lot.
I think he blew away people during the draft process,
like as a guy character wise, and a lot of
people I know loved his physical like people were all.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
In on him.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
And I just think that guys like that make you
nervous when they.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Get hurt early on.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
He could have eight straight years where he never gets
injured again. But if he gets injured again, like that
narrative which he created, not him, but just the situation.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Will only grow.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I think the Colts, I think they're gonna be good.
I think them and the Texans got like both of
them could be eleven.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
To twelve win teams.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Whoever doesn't win the division still could be a hell
of a team, like the Niners and Rams this year,
or the Packers and Lions. I think those two teams
got a chance to kick some ass. Appreciate everyone listening,
have a great weekend. Talk to everyone soon. The volume
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