May 11, 2024 • 27 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong, plenty of both
The top 10 remaining playoff players
3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman joins the show to talk about his experience preparing for and performing at the Tom Brady Roast
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It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
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I love to see and Drew bletso stop buying a
golf course. That's one of my favorite gets in a
while for us. He did not have to do that.
He's getting hydrated today. He was out late at the
comedy store after the roast last night. So that was
good stuff. And I appreciate that Eric Mangini, who watched
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all of it, was talking to me during the break.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It really was first of all, the joke riding.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are so lucky we live in a country with
so many talented people. Because Mickey Glazer, Jeffrey Ross, the
other guy, I forget Nick what sorry about that. I apologize,
but the quality of joke writing is so good. There's
so many funny people out there. And I watched that
and I was like, you know, we are surrounded. We're
lucky here in Los Angeles. We got artists and creators
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and joke writers everywhere, and it was laugh out loud funny.
So we do it every Monday at this time. Where
Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, lots of that.
Here we go where Colin was right. You know, I've
always said about Joel Embid, you keep telling me the superstar,
and he can't get past the second round of the
Eastern Conference playoffs. I thought this year in the playoffs,
he too often played small, He was inconsistent, he was
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a stats monster. He shrunk in the fourth quarter. Listen,
this NIXT team is not real talented. Josh Harts, your
second leading scorer, was a prime example of that. The
table was set for him. MAXI is now an emerging star.
It's here for the taking. And once again Joe Well
MB disappointed where Colin was raw. I like Darvin Ham,
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I don't love him. I was surprised he was fired
a week ago. He got a vote of support from
somebody who leaked it to the athletic and now they
fired him. That means Lebron wanted him out. I thought
Genie Buss would support him. There's been a lot of
talk in recent years about Genie wanting to control the
franchise and not having Lebron control it. So it does
surprise me that they let him go. He was more
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than competent. I didn't know his love, his rotations. But again,
there's three or four coaches in the league, and even
those guys get whacked by their fans. I was surprised
they fired him. Where Colin was right, Kawhi played only
two games, the Clippers lost both. I don't really understand
re signing him to that massive extension three years, one
hundred and fifty million. What do I do I get leadership?
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Do I get reliability? Do I get consistent production? What
do I get for that go to the last like
twenty games of the playoffs? He's played like five. Maybe
I just don't know why the league and the Clippers
feel like they needed I don't know what I'm getting.
I don't get a verbal leader, I don't get a
great basketball role model. I get chaos and unpredictability and
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no reliability.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
On my five bold NBA predictions. I had the nixt
losing in the first round of the Sixers, but it
was pretty obvious by halftime of Game two, New York
was gonna win the series. I mean, listen, Josh Hart's
not a score and he ended up being their second
leading scorer in the Sixers series. I mean, they had
six guys averaging double figures. It's a very un NBA
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like playoff winning team. One star and not much help.
I didn't even know if if Kyrie and Luca could
win a series. The fact that Jalen Brunson it speaks
to a little bit how overrated the Sixers are, how
weak the East is, and also also how great Jalen
Brunson is. Where Colin was right, Innocent people don't get
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stressed out. I've said with shoe Hey O'tani from the beginning,
I think he's innocent. Well, he leads baseball in several categories. Yesterday,
four hits, homer twice, Dodgers swept the Braves. Otani is
playing like an innocent man. This is the team we expected.
The gambling scandal, I think it matters to people in
the gambling industry who do that stuff. You know, there's
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a big stories in Vegas. But I think think the
average baseball fan is a casual fan. They don't watch
one hundred and sixty two games a year, and I
think they're over it. And I think Otani's playing like
an innocent man.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Where Colin was right, Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Listen, nothing against women's basketball, but this is a Caitlyn
Clark story, what she's done to women's basketball. An exhibition
road game, sold out. I also think her game will
translate to the WNBA and she'll be a dominant player.
She had twenty one points. Listen, she just gets open looks.
The NBA lots of guys need screens, they need passing,
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they need help. She doesn't. She gets her own shot.
It's almost always a good shot. And it was a
sold out WNBA exhibition road game.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That is iconic. Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I didn't trust the Mavericks late in the year when
they got hot. I told j Mack, I said, you know,
late NBA season winning streaks when you're playing a bunch
of tanking teams don't mean anything. But did anybody else
surprise how good their defense was? The Clippers average one
hundred a game with Westbrook and Hardin and Paul George
in a couple of games a Kawhi, they're playing unbelievable defense,
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and you know Kyrie. It's not that people didn't like Kyrie,
it's just, you know, know exactly what you're getting. But
he put on an absolute clinic against the Clippers. Where
Colin was right, told you the Lakers should have avoided Denver.
I said, when they get beat badly by Denver, Darvin
Ham's in trouble, Lebron will be passive, aggressive and will
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swim back to chaos.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And that's exactly what's happened.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The Lakers are now looking for their eighth coach in
fourteen years. If that was an NFL franchise, we would
call that a circus eighth coach in fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
We told you where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Listen, I thought Justin Fields had a chance, but every
time I watched them, it diminished. There were rumors last
week that he may be used as a kick returner.
They have been squashed, but the fact that they became
rumors tells you all you need to know. Listen, if
you're honest about it, you look for data points, fourth
quarter passer rating, completion percentage, playing from behind.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
There's no data point.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That leads you to believe you could build your franchise
around it. Now he's talented, I think somebody else will
give him another shot to be the guy. Probably a
two year deal, not a five year deal for huge money.
But the fact that that was a rumor tells you,
and that he went for a six round pick tells you.
People looked at the data and don't seem as a
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franchise guy.
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Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I was thinking about this, Here's who's out of
the playoffs. These are all out of These are great players, Lebron,
Steph Katie, Mbad Kawhi, Dame, James Harden, Jimmy Butler, the
old heads. They're all out of the playoffs. So if
I said, who are the ten best players right now
in the playoffs, you know, based on production, and here's
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my ten best players. So Luca would be number one.
He's nearly averaging a thirty point triple double. Okay, So
he's number one. Number two is Yokich. He's nearly averaging
a triple double and he leads the playoffs in rebounds
and assists. Number three would be Aunt Edwards, certainly the
most watchable player, the only player average thirty plus on
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at least fifty percent shooting in the playoffs, so his
efficiency has really clicked against better teams. That's a great signe.
Number four Jalen Brunson. He leads the NBA in scoring.
His first step is so fast, a highest usage rate
by anybody in the playoffs, so big minutes, big production.
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Number five would be Donovan Mitchell, who was second in
points score to Brunson and second to Brunson in usage.
Minute six I would get to Jason Tatum. He's the
third leading scorer in the playoffs and he also leads
the Celtics in rebounds and plus minus. Seven would be
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Sga from Oklahoma City, although his scoring and assist numbers
have gone down from the regular season, he's at seven.
At eight would be Kyrie Irving, who's been great, but
a lot of it's been in the second half, but
he has been great. He's a complete defensive liability that map.
Tatum is not Anthony Edwards is not even Luca. Now
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play some defense. Number nine would be Jamal Murray, who
tends to get better as the game goes on, but
his team's in an O two hole and he's not
getting it done right now. Number ten would be Jalen Brown,
who's shooting about thirty two percent from three point rangs.
Not great, not much I can take from the Miami series,
but right now, that would be the ten best players.
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And here's why it's interesting. I don't feel bad saying
this that Jason Tatum is number six. So he's not
as dominant as Jokic, he's not as dynamic as Aunt,
and he's not as consistently prodigious offensively as a Donovan
Mitchell or a Jaylen Brunson. The MAVs are Luca. I mean,
even despite Kyrie, the MAVs are Luca. Denver Is Jokic.
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The Celtics aren't Jason Tatum. And that's not a criticism.
But what's interesting is they were seven and one this
year without Tatum. And what's really interesting is Tatum his
numbers went down this year, his scoring and his shots
per game, and the team got better. And when he
missed the eight games this year, the Celtics' offense improved points,
field goal, three point offensive net rating. So you think, oh,
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you're just criticizing Jason Tatum. No, what I'm saying is
there's been this thing where I'm supposed to anoint him
as the next great player, and I'm watching the playoffs
and all these great players are out and I'm still got.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Him at six.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know, better than Jalen Brunson in the playoffs right now.
No way, Runson's magnetic. He's taking a less talented team.
So think about all the great players that I'm not
even counting embiid Jahnis, Dame staph Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
They're out and I got him at six.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is that a criticism or is it a player that
because he plays for the Celtics, people are trying to
make the face of the league. I don't think he's
dynamic like some of these guys. He's not as offensively profound.
The team is better, but there are a lot of
times I watch the Celtics plan Jalen Brown taking the
big shot. So I think people view that as a criticism,
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not just a reality of what I'm seeing.
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Speaker 1 (11:53):
Julian Edelman now is joining us live. I so I
didn't know this before, but I just discovered this in
the preamble before we went on the air. So you
did the roast. Yeah, and that's a big crowd. It
wasn't tiny.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How big?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Tell the audience how big it was.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was a fifteen thousand at the Forum.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, so down the road the Forum, that's where the
you know, that was a Showtimelkers. So you did something
to prepare, which takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And this is so Julian.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Edelman, this in such a patriot way, tell the audience
what you did to prepare well.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I found out I was doing the show, probably two
and a half weeks before the show, and you know,
all the athletes were pretty nervous, just because you're gonna
get on stage, you're gonna talk with in front of
a whole lot of people, and you're also talking with
professionals or going against professionals. These guys do this for
a living in the comics, So I was getting super nervous.
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Jeff Ross was we were doing our like our brainstorm
meetings where his team was there, my team was together.
We'd get on a zoom link and we'd go over jokes,
we went over what we wanted to hit. They had
some things for us, and you know, it was getting overwhelming.
So Jeff could kind of feel that for me, and
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he goes, Hey, I'm gonna do the Comedy Store next Thursday.
Why don't you come on and I'll have you on
the back set, a back part of my set. And
I said, awesome, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So the fact that you said awesome, I treated.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It like a game. I needed walkthrough reps. I needed
a preseason game and then I wanted to go hit
the game, you know what I mean. So the walkthrough
reps was with my team where I would perform in
front of them and I would do our jokes in
front of them, like we were in full roast mode
for two weeks. Everyone we all hated each other by
the end of it because everyone's making a joke about
each other just to kind of get the jokes going.
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And it was very nerve wracking going to the Comedy
Store on a Thursday, because I did about twelve minutes there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Whoa, and that's a lot of material.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It was because you wanted to go fat so you
could see reactions and it was good to get that
rep because you know, some part of your jokes, when
you're you're setting a joke up, people start laughing or
start or start talking about it, or you get paused up.
So it was good to feel that so then you
could deliver the end of the joke. So, you know,
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I go there and it was nerve wracking because it's
very intimate at the comedy Store. Yeah, I mean there's
like six four hundred people. Three hundred people were in
one of the bigger rooms and everyone's right up on you. Thankfully,
we had a group of like twenty five year old
frat bros that knew everything about sports, so my material
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was flying. I was good. I was good, but it
was a good rep to have. And after that, going
into the roast, you know, I felt a lot more
confident for the show, just because I could feel the
beats of when I was going up there. Like I
one of the jokes, you're you're performing something, and I said,
you barrels chested sob for Bill and people started laughing.
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But that was the first part of my joke. So
then I knew going into the roast that people are
probably gonna laugh at that. I got to take a beat,
then I get back to my joke and then deliver.
So it was, it was. It was a fun experience,
nerve wracking.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
When you did twelve minutes, did you have a paper
next to you?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I had cards, So, yeah, you did. I had. I
had all my cards on jokes. And by the end,
I mean, I knew my jokes, but I was shaking
at the comedy store, I mean, were you know. I'm
not a comic by any means.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I think comics probably from time to time get nervous
on steps.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, and when I got to the roast the day before,
you know, it was kind of like get into a
game early. You get to see where the shot, you know,
the playclock is. You can get to see the field,
and you saw where everyone was sitting, so you could
dictate your jokes to the certain people. Saw mister Kraft,
I saw it s Guerrero, so I can see where
they were going to be in the crowd, so I
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could go to them. And it was I treated it
like a football game.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So when you were in the cocktail room or the
the the green room they call it in our industry
before you go out.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We have it here. We call it the avocado room.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's California, of course, in the green room when you
guys are all there before you go out intents.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Now you have a lot of legends. Yeah, in one room,
and all the athletes were with the athletes, you know,
and so you could see guys were nervous, but they
didn't want to show their nervousness. So guys would, you know,
go to the bathroom kind of run their lines by themselves.
No one wanted to do it because you didn't want
to have your material in front of the other people. But
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it was definitely guys were definitely nervous, but it was
honestly very fun to catch up with a lot of guys.
I mean our green room, we had Randy Gronk, Bill,
me Bledsoe and uh we we were just like, it
was so fun to hear the old war stories. Bill
opened up, he was telling we were talking about rookie
skits and stuff because we were in skit mode with
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the whole roast, and it was a fun. It was
a fun experience.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
How much of it did Tom know was coming or
did he go there and just sit and listen. I
mean he had material too, But I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I kept reiterating to the to the writers and I'm like,
is everything on limits here? Like are we good? Like
we could talk this, we could talk chat they go
he said, everything's good, Oh boy. And I was still
a little nerve, nervous going into with my set with
certain things just because family stuff. But then once the
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first five minutes of the roast happened and and Kevin
Hart dropped his opening lines, I was like, oh, we're good,
We're good. He cleared the air, which that's a good
teammate he did that to probably make us feel comfortable
with what we were gonna say. And you could really
see the professionals, the Kevin Hart's, the Jeff Rosses, the
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Nicky Glazers, all of them, all the comics. You could
see why they were professionals, because, yeah, of with Kevin,
like I was watching teleprompter the whole time. I wanted
to see how people were going to deliver off teleprompters,
because there are teleprompters everywhere and you could see them.
And with Kevin, he could pull something from what someone
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just said and it would be a completely different term
or whatever than what the teleprompter said, but he would
be able to get back into the prompter to keep
the show going. Like that's when you see professionals at work.
Along with Jeff, along with NICKI, I mean, all these
these comics, that's why they're pros. They know how to entertain,
They knew how to pull things, bring things and listen
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and then deliver.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I thought Albert Breer said this that the roast was
a Patriots therapy session to get stuff out that you
probably kind of wanted to get out, but in a
funny way, so it wasn't as hurtful.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, you fully. I mean I looked right at Bill
when I said my joke to him.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And he loved it. That's the thing. He laughed hardest that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You know what. I didn't get a lot of TV
time on that dynasty, so he probably laughed at my job.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He still liked you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, but your your joke was And I was talking
to somebody who said Bill used to say that all
the time, all the time, basically weak. I can find
a guy at Foxborough High that can do this.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, well, Foxborough High is the only job opportunity you had, coach,
And I love saying it. No, but it was all
of love and he was I thought he was a
great sport.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I thought, Bill, you know what. I thought Bill won
the night.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He did a really good job because.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Bill came in fair not Bill came in viewed by
the league as a little combative. Hey, I'm gonna do
things my way. And I watched that and I thought,
if I was an owner a GM, I'm like, Okay,
that's the Bill I've heard about, the happy, the fun Bill.
He's a serious man. But I thought after it, I'm like, okay,
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And he's been good on McAfee and I'm like, Okay,
this is the Bill that I think is totally hirable.
He got you know, listen, I understand coaches, but Bill's
Bill's rap for about two years. At the end, there
was a clunky.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, time was ending over there. And you know that's
anytime you're in any area or with anyone or any opportunity,
any job for a long time, things get stale. I
thought it was a great night for him. I thought
it meant probably a lot for Brady to see him there.
You know, the the tension with the shot with him
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and mister Kraft. That great TV.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
But it's not that one. Here's the thing, Julian, in
my opinion, that one's never going to be close. But
I do think Tom and Bill and this was a
real ice breaker. I think they really do know how
much they meant for each other.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
They love each other, and I've always said that it
just sometimes it takes time, after a long time being
together to realize that. And you know, I could specifically
remember when TV went to Tampa Bay and he would
say things like, you know, everything that's normal that we're
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used to doing is not normal. So all the stuff
he used to complain about, he wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You know what I mean? And you know that they
definitely love each other. I feel, I mean, they could
be I could be completely wrong, but you know, we
needed both of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I think what Bill provided for Tom was he never
had to win mostly by shootouts, which even if you're Mahomes,
is hard. And I think what Tom provided was a
fairly eagoless quarterback. There's not a lot of superstar athletes
in America that don't bring some crap to the table,
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and Tom really didn't. And so in the end, what
they provide I did to each other was very rare.
Tom for fifteen years, eighteen years never had a bad
old line or a crappy defense. That just doesn't happen
in pro football. You always have you know, you lose
a free agent, you lose a pass rusher. And I
think they both gaves. I think both now look back
at it and think in the area, it's funny that
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you say the Tampa thing, it's just like a relationship.
You leave it, the grass is greener, and you're like, yeah,
that ain't great. Kind miss that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, you know, it's uh.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You didn't have that because you were a Patriot. I
never had that, but you've talked to guys.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've talked to guys, and when guys leave, you know,
they they realize why it was a tough environment and
why we won when they left, you know. And it's
hard to say that when with with Brady leaving and
go and win in a super Bowl. But you know,
I always explain it like this. Tom always had a
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chip and we all knew Tom played better when he
was pissed off.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you said that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, And what did Bill like to do this off Tom?
And what did Tom do get pissed off and play
great football?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Like, I don't know if it's super Jedi mind tricks
that Bill played, because sometimes it was a lot, But
I think that's what he thought he had to do
to motivate Tom to get the best out of him.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
The other thing is you're obviously still close with guys,
and now you're the father and your life's changed and
there's different things of importance. But I don't know why
I always think about this whenever a football team is good,
I always think winning on the road is cooler because
to get on a plane and fly home for four
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hours after a win on the road against a good team.
I'm like, that is guy time. That is even better
at locker room you go in media, is there you shower.
That's the part of your life that where I look
as a sportscaster, not the money. It's like to be
on those planes with Brady and Gronk and road wins.
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Are those special to you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
My favorite win of my career that wasn't a super
Bowl was the eighteen AFC Championship when we went to
Kansas City. Like we didn't we had the stigma that
we couldn't win on the road. We've been hearing it
for years. We lost to Denver twice in the AFC
Championship in Denver. To go there, play in a hostile
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environment against a young, sexy, new generation team, we were
kind of that old team that was, you know, the
old generation holding on and to go out there and
compete and everyone perform and be a part of the
contribution to going out there when there's nothing like going
home on that plane with the guys. Like you said,
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when you're at home, you got twenty minutes and guys
are out of there. You gotta go get your family.
You got the media there when you have I have
a three hour flight. You're in there, Guys are bumping music,
guys are having fun. There could be some cocktails on
there that aren't supposed to be on there, but it's
literally that's the most that's that's the number one thing
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you miss when you when you leave the game, is
that camaraderie of that away trip flight back home. So
I was right, you were right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That's what I think about Mark Sanchez when they beat
the Chargers. It was a foggy day in San Diego.
Remember that Sanchez went west, foggy and a good Charger team,
And I'm like, man, you've got five and a half
hours flying back. He's like, you have no idea. That
is just great living. You cannot duplicate that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Julian Aedelman, by the way, he has a podcast, Games
with Names. It's really good. They have a new episode
every Tuesday. One of my favorite people is on this week,
Drew Bledsoe. I love Drew and I always think Drew's
had an interesting life. He was replaced by the greatest
player ever, and it minimizes how great Drew was who
had By the way, I thought, maybe the funniest joke
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in the whole thing, Tom, there's two things I have.
I was a number one pick and I'm celebrating my
twenty eighth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I thought that was a great line.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But Drew kind of gets beat up, not on purpose,
but because of Tom's greatness. And I love that you
guys all rally around him. I think he's a special guy.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, Drew's a pivotal part of one of those pillars
that help build this whole thing early on in the
Patriot dynasty. He's always been a great sport about it.
And that's gotta be a very tough situation because he's
a baller. I mean we threw the ball on Sunday
(26:44):
night when we did that podcast. That guy can still
sling it like you could see why he was in
He looks the part, oh number one draft pick he
picks up. And Tom used to say it all the time.
He could pick up any ball fresh out the box
and he could sling it, big hands. Just I mean,
he's a great sport. He he he was a humble
(27:07):
guy about that whole situation. If you've watched and heard
the stories of how he handled a young twenty five
year old or twenty three year old kid coming in
and taking his job after getting a huge contract, like
he was still a team guy. And that's the Patriot way,
you know, not doing what's best for you, but doing
(27:29):
what's best for the team. That was on the wall
when we walked in every day, mental toughness, doing what's
best for the team when it may not be the
best for you. And Drew's that he's in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Great seeing man, Great to see you too.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It is Drew Blatsoe out now Games with Names really
a smartly constructed and delivered podcast. I love whenever I
see your name on the list. I'm in a good mood, buddy.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
I love to see and Drew bletso stop buying a
golf course. That's one of my favorite gets in a
while for us. He did not have to do that.
He's getting hydrated today. He was out late at the
comedy store after the roast last night. So that was
good stuff. And I appreciate that Eric Mangini, who watched
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all of it, was talking to me during the break.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It really was first of all, the joke riding.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are so lucky we live in a country with
so many talented people. Because Mickey Glazer, Jeffrey Ross, the
other guy, I forget Nick what sorry about that. I apologize,
but the quality of joke writing is so good. There's
so many funny people out there. And I watched that
and I was like, you know, we are surrounded. We're
lucky here in Los Angeles. We got artists and creators
(01:24):
and joke writers everywhere, and it was laugh out loud funny.
So we do it every Monday at this time. Where
Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, lots of that.
Here we go where Colin was right. You know, I've
always said about Joel Embid, you keep telling me the superstar,
and he can't get past the second round of the
Eastern Conference playoffs. I thought this year in the playoffs,
he too often played small, He was inconsistent, he was
(01:46):
a stats monster. He shrunk in the fourth quarter. Listen,
this NIXT team is not real talented. Josh Harts, your
second leading scorer, was a prime example of that. The
table was set for him. MAXI is now an emerging star.
It's here for the taking. And once again Joe Well
MB disappointed where Colin was raw. I like Darvin Ham,
(02:10):
I don't love him. I was surprised he was fired
a week ago. He got a vote of support from
somebody who leaked it to the athletic and now they
fired him. That means Lebron wanted him out. I thought
Genie Buss would support him. There's been a lot of
talk in recent years about Genie wanting to control the
franchise and not having Lebron control it. So it does
surprise me that they let him go. He was more
(02:32):
than competent. I didn't know his love, his rotations. But again,
there's three or four coaches in the league, and even
those guys get whacked by their fans. I was surprised
they fired him. Where Colin was right, Kawhi played only
two games, the Clippers lost both. I don't really understand
re signing him to that massive extension three years, one
hundred and fifty million. What do I do I get leadership?
(02:54):
Do I get reliability? Do I get consistent production? What
do I get for that go to the last like
twenty games of the playoffs? He's played like five. Maybe
I just don't know why the league and the Clippers
feel like they needed I don't know what I'm getting.
I don't get a verbal leader, I don't get a
great basketball role model. I get chaos and unpredictability and
(03:19):
no reliability.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
On my five bold NBA predictions. I had the nixt
losing in the first round of the Sixers, but it
was pretty obvious by halftime of Game two, New York
was gonna win the series. I mean, listen, Josh Hart's
not a score and he ended up being their second
leading scorer in the Sixers series. I mean, they had
six guys averaging double figures. It's a very un NBA
(03:44):
like playoff winning team. One star and not much help.
I didn't even know if if Kyrie and Luca could
win a series. The fact that Jalen Brunson it speaks
to a little bit how overrated the Sixers are, how
weak the East is, and also also how great Jalen
Brunson is. Where Colin was right, Innocent people don't get
(04:07):
stressed out. I've said with shoe Hey O'tani from the beginning,
I think he's innocent. Well, he leads baseball in several categories. Yesterday,
four hits, homer twice, Dodgers swept the Braves. Otani is
playing like an innocent man. This is the team we expected.
The gambling scandal, I think it matters to people in
the gambling industry who do that stuff. You know, there's
(04:28):
a big stories in Vegas. But I think think the
average baseball fan is a casual fan. They don't watch
one hundred and sixty two games a year, and I
think they're over it. And I think Otani's playing like
an innocent man.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Where Colin was right, Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Listen, nothing against women's basketball, but this is a Caitlyn
Clark story, what she's done to women's basketball. An exhibition
road game, sold out. I also think her game will
translate to the WNBA and she'll be a dominant player.
She had twenty one points. Listen, she just gets open looks.
The NBA lots of guys need screens, they need passing,
(05:03):
they need help. She doesn't. She gets her own shot.
It's almost always a good shot. And it was a
sold out WNBA exhibition road game.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That is iconic. Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I didn't trust the Mavericks late in the year when
they got hot. I told j Mack, I said, you know,
late NBA season winning streaks when you're playing a bunch
of tanking teams don't mean anything. But did anybody else
surprise how good their defense was? The Clippers average one
hundred a game with Westbrook and Hardin and Paul George
in a couple of games a Kawhi, they're playing unbelievable defense,
(05:40):
and you know Kyrie. It's not that people didn't like Kyrie,
it's just, you know, know exactly what you're getting. But
he put on an absolute clinic against the Clippers. Where
Colin was right, told you the Lakers should have avoided Denver.
I said, when they get beat badly by Denver, Darvin
Ham's in trouble, Lebron will be passive, aggressive and will
(06:00):
swim back to chaos.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And that's exactly what's happened.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The Lakers are now looking for their eighth coach in
fourteen years. If that was an NFL franchise, we would
call that a circus eighth coach in fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
We told you where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Listen, I thought Justin Fields had a chance, but every
time I watched them, it diminished. There were rumors last
week that he may be used as a kick returner.
They have been squashed, but the fact that they became
rumors tells you all you need to know. Listen, if
you're honest about it, you look for data points, fourth
quarter passer rating, completion percentage, playing from behind.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
There's no data point.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That leads you to believe you could build your franchise
around it. Now he's talented, I think somebody else will
give him another shot to be the guy. Probably a
two year deal, not a five year deal for huge money.
But the fact that that was a rumor tells you,
and that he went for a six round pick tells you.
People looked at the data and don't seem as a
(07:06):
franchise guy.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
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Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I was thinking about this, Here's who's out of
the playoffs. These are all out of These are great players, Lebron,
Steph Katie, Mbad Kawhi, Dame, James Harden, Jimmy Butler, the
old heads. They're all out of the playoffs. So if
I said, who are the ten best players right now
in the playoffs, you know, based on production, and here's
(07:38):
my ten best players. So Luca would be number one.
He's nearly averaging a thirty point triple double. Okay, So
he's number one. Number two is Yokich. He's nearly averaging
a triple double and he leads the playoffs in rebounds
and assists. Number three would be Aunt Edwards, certainly the
most watchable player, the only player average thirty plus on
(08:01):
at least fifty percent shooting in the playoffs, so his
efficiency has really clicked against better teams. That's a great signe.
Number four Jalen Brunson. He leads the NBA in scoring.
His first step is so fast, a highest usage rate
by anybody in the playoffs, so big minutes, big production.
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Number five would be Donovan Mitchell, who was second in
points score to Brunson and second to Brunson in usage.
Minute six I would get to Jason Tatum. He's the
third leading scorer in the playoffs and he also leads
the Celtics in rebounds and plus minus. Seven would be
(08:43):
Sga from Oklahoma City, although his scoring and assist numbers
have gone down from the regular season, he's at seven.
At eight would be Kyrie Irving, who's been great, but
a lot of it's been in the second half, but
he has been great. He's a complete defensive liability that map.
Tatum is not Anthony Edwards is not even Luca. Now
(09:06):
play some defense. Number nine would be Jamal Murray, who
tends to get better as the game goes on, but
his team's in an O two hole and he's not
getting it done right now. Number ten would be Jalen Brown,
who's shooting about thirty two percent from three point rangs.
Not great, not much I can take from the Miami series,
but right now, that would be the ten best players.
(09:26):
And here's why it's interesting. I don't feel bad saying
this that Jason Tatum is number six. So he's not
as dominant as Jokic, he's not as dynamic as Aunt,
and he's not as consistently prodigious offensively as a Donovan
Mitchell or a Jaylen Brunson. The MAVs are Luca. I mean,
even despite Kyrie, the MAVs are Luca. Denver Is Jokic.
(09:52):
The Celtics aren't Jason Tatum. And that's not a criticism.
But what's interesting is they were seven and one this
year without Tatum. And what's really interesting is Tatum his
numbers went down this year, his scoring and his shots
per game, and the team got better. And when he
missed the eight games this year, the Celtics' offense improved points,
field goal, three point offensive net rating. So you think, oh,
(10:13):
you're just criticizing Jason Tatum. No, what I'm saying is
there's been this thing where I'm supposed to anoint him
as the next great player, and I'm watching the playoffs
and all these great players are out and I'm still got.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Him at six.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know, better than Jalen Brunson in the playoffs right now.
No way, Runson's magnetic. He's taking a less talented team.
So think about all the great players that I'm not
even counting embiid Jahnis, Dame staph Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
They're out and I got him at six.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is that a criticism or is it a player that
because he plays for the Celtics, people are trying to
make the face of the league. I don't think he's
dynamic like some of these guys. He's not as offensively profound.
The team is better, but there are a lot of
times I watch the Celtics plan Jalen Brown taking the
big shot. So I think people view that as a criticism,
(11:10):
not just a reality of what I'm seeing.
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Speaker 1 (11:53):
Julian Edelman now is joining us live. I so I
didn't know this before, but I just discovered this in
the preamble before we went on the air. So you
did the roast. Yeah, and that's a big crowd. It
wasn't tiny.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How big?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Tell the audience how big it was.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was a fifteen thousand at the Forum.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, so down the road the Forum, that's where the
you know, that was a Showtimelkers. So you did something
to prepare, which takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And this is so Julian.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Edelman, this in such a patriot way, tell the audience
what you did to prepare well.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I found out I was doing the show, probably two
and a half weeks before the show, and you know,
all the athletes were pretty nervous, just because you're gonna
get on stage, you're gonna talk with in front of
a whole lot of people, and you're also talking with
professionals or going against professionals. These guys do this for
a living in the comics, So I was getting super nervous.
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Jeff Ross was we were doing our like our brainstorm
meetings where his team was there, my team was together.
We'd get on a zoom link and we'd go over jokes,
we went over what we wanted to hit. They had
some things for us, and you know, it was getting overwhelming.
So Jeff could kind of feel that for me, and
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he goes, Hey, I'm gonna do the Comedy Store next Thursday.
Why don't you come on and I'll have you on
the back set, a back part of my set. And
I said, awesome, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So the fact that you said awesome, I treated.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It like a game. I needed walkthrough reps. I needed
a preseason game and then I wanted to go hit
the game, you know what I mean. So the walkthrough
reps was with my team where I would perform in
front of them and I would do our jokes in
front of them, like we were in full roast mode
for two weeks. Everyone we all hated each other by
the end of it because everyone's making a joke about
each other just to kind of get the jokes going.
(13:51):
And it was very nerve wracking going to the Comedy
Store on a Thursday, because I did about twelve minutes there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Whoa, and that's a lot of material.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It was because you wanted to go fat so you
could see reactions and it was good to get that
rep because you know, some part of your jokes, when
you're you're setting a joke up, people start laughing or
start or start talking about it, or you get paused up.
So it was good to feel that so then you
could deliver the end of the joke. So, you know,
(14:22):
I go there and it was nerve wracking because it's
very intimate at the comedy Store. Yeah, I mean there's
like six four hundred people. Three hundred people were in
one of the bigger rooms and everyone's right up on you. Thankfully,
we had a group of like twenty five year old
frat bros that knew everything about sports, so my material
(14:43):
was flying. I was good. I was good, but it
was a good rep to have. And after that, going
into the roast, you know, I felt a lot more
confident for the show, just because I could feel the
beats of when I was going up there. Like I
one of the jokes, you're you're performing something, and I said,
you barrels chested sob for Bill and people started laughing.
(15:04):
But that was the first part of my joke. So
then I knew going into the roast that people are
probably gonna laugh at that. I got to take a beat,
then I get back to my joke and then deliver.
So it was, it was. It was a fun experience,
nerve wracking.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
When you did twelve minutes, did you have a paper
next to you?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I had cards, So, yeah, you did. I had. I
had all my cards on jokes. And by the end,
I mean, I knew my jokes, but I was shaking
at the comedy store, I mean, were you know. I'm
not a comic by any means.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I think comics probably from time to time get nervous
on steps.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, and when I got to the roast the day before,
you know, it was kind of like get into a
game early. You get to see where the shot, you know,
the playclock is. You can get to see the field,
and you saw where everyone was sitting, so you could
dictate your jokes to the certain people. Saw mister Kraft,
I saw it s Guerrero, so I can see where
they were going to be in the crowd, so I
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could go to them. And it was I treated it
like a football game.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So when you were in the cocktail room or the
the the green room they call it in our industry
before you go out.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We have it here. We call it the avocado room.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's California, of course, in the green room when you
guys are all there before you go out intents.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Now you have a lot of legends. Yeah, in one room,
and all the athletes were with the athletes, you know,
and so you could see guys were nervous, but they
didn't want to show their nervousness. So guys would, you know,
go to the bathroom kind of run their lines by themselves.
No one wanted to do it because you didn't want
to have your material in front of the other people. But
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it was definitely guys were definitely nervous, but it was
honestly very fun to catch up with a lot of guys.
I mean our green room, we had Randy Gronk, Bill,
me Bledsoe and uh we we were just like, it
was so fun to hear the old war stories. Bill
opened up, he was telling we were talking about rookie
skits and stuff because we were in skit mode with
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the whole roast, and it was a fun. It was
a fun experience.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
How much of it did Tom know was coming or
did he go there and just sit and listen. I
mean he had material too, But I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I kept reiterating to the to the writers and I'm like,
is everything on limits here? Like are we good? Like
we could talk this, we could talk chat they go
he said, everything's good, Oh boy. And I was still
a little nerve, nervous going into with my set with
certain things just because family stuff. But then once the
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first five minutes of the roast happened and and Kevin
Hart dropped his opening lines, I was like, oh, we're good,
We're good. He cleared the air, which that's a good
teammate he did that to probably make us feel comfortable
with what we were gonna say. And you could really
see the professionals, the Kevin Hart's, the Jeff Rosses, the
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Nicky Glazers, all of them, all the comics. You could
see why they were professionals, because, yeah, of with Kevin,
like I was watching teleprompter the whole time. I wanted
to see how people were going to deliver off teleprompters,
because there are teleprompters everywhere and you could see them.
And with Kevin, he could pull something from what someone
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just said and it would be a completely different term
or whatever than what the teleprompter said, but he would
be able to get back into the prompter to keep
the show going. Like that's when you see professionals at work.
Along with Jeff, along with NICKI, I mean, all these
these comics, that's why they're pros. They know how to entertain,
They knew how to pull things, bring things and listen
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and then deliver.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I thought Albert Breer said this that the roast was
a Patriots therapy session to get stuff out that you
probably kind of wanted to get out, but in a
funny way, so it wasn't as hurtful.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, you fully. I mean I looked right at Bill
when I said my joke to him.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And he loved it. That's the thing. He laughed hardest that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You know what. I didn't get a lot of TV
time on that dynasty, so he probably laughed at my job.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He still liked you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, but your your joke was And I was talking
to somebody who said Bill used to say that all
the time, all the time, basically weak. I can find
a guy at Foxborough High that can do this.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, well, Foxborough High is the only job opportunity you had, coach,
And I love saying it. No, but it was all
of love and he was I thought he was a
great sport.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I thought, Bill, you know what. I thought Bill won
the night.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He did a really good job because.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Bill came in fair not Bill came in viewed by
the league as a little combative. Hey, I'm gonna do
things my way. And I watched that and I thought,
if I was an owner a GM, I'm like, Okay,
that's the Bill I've heard about, the happy, the fun Bill.
He's a serious man. But I thought after it, I'm like, okay,
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And he's been good on McAfee and I'm like, Okay,
this is the Bill that I think is totally hirable.
He got you know, listen, I understand coaches, but Bill's
Bill's rap for about two years. At the end, there
was a clunky.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, time was ending over there. And you know that's
anytime you're in any area or with anyone or any opportunity,
any job for a long time, things get stale. I
thought it was a great night for him. I thought
it meant probably a lot for Brady to see him there.
You know, the the tension with the shot with him
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and mister Kraft. That great TV.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
But it's not that one. Here's the thing, Julian, in
my opinion, that one's never going to be close. But
I do think Tom and Bill and this was a
real ice breaker. I think they really do know how
much they meant for each other.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
They love each other, and I've always said that it
just sometimes it takes time, after a long time being
together to realize that. And you know, I could specifically
remember when TV went to Tampa Bay and he would
say things like, you know, everything that's normal that we're
(21:17):
used to doing is not normal. So all the stuff
he used to complain about, he wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You know what I mean? And you know that they
definitely love each other. I feel, I mean, they could
be I could be completely wrong, but you know, we
needed both of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I think what Bill provided for Tom was he never
had to win mostly by shootouts, which even if you're Mahomes,
is hard. And I think what Tom provided was a
fairly eagoless quarterback. There's not a lot of superstar athletes
in America that don't bring some crap to the table,
(21:57):
and Tom really didn't. And so in the end, what
they provide I did to each other was very rare.
Tom for fifteen years, eighteen years never had a bad
old line or a crappy defense. That just doesn't happen
in pro football. You always have you know, you lose
a free agent, you lose a pass rusher. And I
think they both gaves. I think both now look back
at it and think in the area, it's funny that
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you say the Tampa thing, it's just like a relationship.
You leave it, the grass is greener, and you're like, yeah,
that ain't great. Kind miss that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, you know, it's uh.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You didn't have that because you were a Patriot. I
never had that, but you've talked to guys.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've talked to guys, and when guys leave, you know,
they they realize why it was a tough environment and
why we won when they left, you know. And it's
hard to say that when with with Brady leaving and
go and win in a super Bowl. But you know,
I always explain it like this. Tom always had a
(22:54):
chip and we all knew Tom played better when he
was pissed off.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you said that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, And what did Bill like to do this off Tom?
And what did Tom do get pissed off and play
great football?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Like, I don't know if it's super Jedi mind tricks
that Bill played, because sometimes it was a lot, But
I think that's what he thought he had to do
to motivate Tom to get the best out of him.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
The other thing is you're obviously still close with guys,
and now you're the father and your life's changed and
there's different things of importance. But I don't know why
I always think about this whenever a football team is good,
I always think winning on the road is cooler because
to get on a plane and fly home for four
(23:44):
hours after a win on the road against a good team.
I'm like, that is guy time. That is even better
at locker room you go in media, is there you shower.
That's the part of your life that where I look
as a sportscaster, not the money. It's like to be
on those planes with Brady and Gronk and road wins.
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Are those special to you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
My favorite win of my career that wasn't a super
Bowl was the eighteen AFC Championship when we went to
Kansas City. Like we didn't we had the stigma that
we couldn't win on the road. We've been hearing it
for years. We lost to Denver twice in the AFC
Championship in Denver. To go there, play in a hostile
(24:32):
environment against a young, sexy, new generation team, we were
kind of that old team that was, you know, the
old generation holding on and to go out there and
compete and everyone perform and be a part of the
contribution to going out there when there's nothing like going
home on that plane with the guys. Like you said,
(24:53):
when you're at home, you got twenty minutes and guys
are out of there. You gotta go get your family.
You got the media there when you have I have
a three hour flight. You're in there, Guys are bumping music,
guys are having fun. There could be some cocktails on
there that aren't supposed to be on there, but it's
literally that's the most that's that's the number one thing
(25:15):
you miss when you when you leave the game, is
that camaraderie of that away trip flight back home. So
I was right, you were right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That's what I think about Mark Sanchez when they beat
the Chargers. It was a foggy day in San Diego.
Remember that Sanchez went west, foggy and a good Charger team,
And I'm like, man, you've got five and a half
hours flying back. He's like, you have no idea. That
is just great living. You cannot duplicate that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Julian Aedelman, by the way, he has a podcast, Games
with Names. It's really good. They have a new episode
every Tuesday. One of my favorite people is on this week,
Drew Bledsoe. I love Drew and I always think Drew's
had an interesting life. He was replaced by the greatest
player ever, and it minimizes how great Drew was who
had By the way, I thought, maybe the funniest joke
(26:05):
in the whole thing, Tom, there's two things I have.
I was a number one pick and I'm celebrating my
twenty eighth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I thought that was a great line.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But Drew kind of gets beat up, not on purpose,
but because of Tom's greatness. And I love that you
guys all rally around him. I think he's a special guy.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, Drew's a pivotal part of one of those pillars
that help build this whole thing early on in the
Patriot dynasty. He's always been a great sport about it.
And that's gotta be a very tough situation because he's
a baller. I mean we threw the ball on Sunday
(26:44):
night when we did that podcast. That guy can still
sling it like you could see why he was in
He looks the part, oh number one draft pick he
picks up. And Tom used to say it all the time.
He could pick up any ball fresh out the box
and he could sling it, big hands. Just I mean,
he's a great sport. He he he was a humble
(27:07):
guy about that whole situation. If you've watched and heard
the stories of how he handled a young twenty five
year old or twenty three year old kid coming in
and taking his job after getting a huge contract, like
he was still a team guy. And that's the Patriot way,
you know, not doing what's best for you, but doing
(27:29):
what's best for the team. That was on the wall
when we walked in every day, mental toughness, doing what's
best for the team when it may not be the
best for you. And Drew's that he's in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Great seeing man, Great to see you too.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It is Drew Blatsoe out now Games with Names really
a smartly constructed and delivered podcast. I love whenever I
see your name on the list. I'm in a good mood, buddy.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Thank you.
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