May 17, 2024 • 54 mins
Jason and Mike give you two big takeaways from Caitlin Clark’s WNBA home debut. An Ohtani bobble-head from tonight's game has already been sold on eBay for $1249.00. And the T-Wolves beat the Nuggets by nearly 50 points to force Game 7. Plus, a visit from the GREAT Ric Bucher!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Greetings, Happy nicks Eve. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What's the Hurricane score?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Live?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
From the title? They didn't play tonight. I don't know
if you saw that. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
They didn't play in the third period and played tonight.
That was awful. That was just wow. That's psychological. That
was awful. You came in looking all stunned. I thought
you got shut out trying to get an O TWI
bobble hole man. I had to watch the Mets give
up the lead twice and Daz again in the ninth inning,
and then I had to.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Watch a natural hat trick in the third period, and
I'm going my team is going to lose again. Another
year of being a Stanley Cup favorite and we're gonna
lose again in the second round of the place.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Diz need to change in entry music or what? Just
needs more time? He just did not.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean he's whole closing game.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, no, he's coming back from a year away from
from his achilles and the stuff just isn't quite there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He's not. Look, he hit a guy to tie the game.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, a couple of days coming, No, but he
needs a little bit of time to get back in
and I get it. And the thing is, the bullpen's
been great. It's just this, this is one of those days.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But yeah, how did we get to the Mets May sixteenth?
But I know, buddy, I know it started.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
We get the joke and then he went on and
piled on him on how crappy his day was.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was Jason, what did I tell you two months ago?
And you said, no way in hell?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
What did you tell me that you guys would almost
have the same record as the A's.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think you guys have identical wins. Well, hey, we're
better than the Astros. If you told me, yeah, you're
better than the Astros, all right, man, yeah, yeah, we
haven't had a player busted for a bad glove.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean yet, we don't have shers there anymore. So
I think it's okay, We'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
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a little upset. The Hurricanes were going to the third pier.
I'm like, we're going to force game seven. We're gonna
come down from three zip and force game seven against
a team that I don't like, maybe just as much
(02:33):
as I don't like Georgetown and from being a fan
growing up. And then the Rangers score four goals in
the third period and crinder as a natural hat trick,
and I'm saying myself, this is another year where where
Stanley Cup dreams and we lose early the playoffs. I
just have to understand that, Carrol, We're just a regular
season good team. Like there's good teams, there's playoff cond ten,
(02:54):
and then there's seems that you're good in the regular
season when the playoffs. Come, Yeah, we're a regular season.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Good. Well, you know what you're excitable for eighty two games? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I have that. And in the end, so you
have that, And in the end, what do I say?
I got the Knicks, man, I got a lot on
my plate right now.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But it's all been about bridges since we've been doing
this show.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
How do I build a bridge from.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's funny I bring up bridges. We get another boat
getting running into a bridge. But when we have these
these conversations about your psyche as a fan, it's always
the how do I bridge from one team to the next?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, Like I said, so, you really need the Knicks
to at least survive another week.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Then everything else is melting down.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I told you last night, I need the Knicks to
take me past the Mets and like jet plane over
the Mets to get to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, you're gonna be able to get the Jets. I
don't know that that's gonna happen me.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You had rookie meaning camp I don't think they're scheduled
to show up again.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You get to one more round of the playoffs, and
then we get into the end of the season and
and and we were weigh and then the Jets are
coming to camp in a month.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Okay, well you Rogers medium No, no, don't because it's
every show that it works.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Those are those are the Those are the four most
dangerous words to the New York Jets this year, Aaron
Rodgers media appearance. Those are you can't you can't have those,
We can't have those. Those are four words that make
my skin just go ah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
What did he say? What's going on? What are we doing?
What are we doing? I heard he's going on Kremlin TV.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think he probably is. I think he's there. Oh
I thought you said.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I thought you said we're gonna have to go to
the Kremlin mission impossible?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
For what If he's hanging out with Steven Seagal, he
might be, He might be, man, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It might help him avoid the turf monster that got
him last year.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Maybe he's going to be the villain in Stephen Saggal's
next movie. And he says he doesn't watch Adult.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Exactly that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But we'll begin with the NBA tonight, because look, like
we said last night, the NBA has a playoff problem.
Too many blowouts, too many stars not playing for different reasons,
and this is why it's a it's an issue, and
and when a sport needs to be playing its best
at its most critical time, when they have the most
eyeballs on it, Eventually, this is why ratings decrease. This
(05:13):
is why the NFL jumps on Christmas Day and the
NBA has got a playoff problem.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The blowouts.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Even in close series, the games aren't like this Timberwolves
Nugget series, which now the t Wolves lead early in
the third quarter, by twenty four sixty six forty two,
middle of the middle of the third quarter. And even
though this series is gonna end, is gonna be three
to three, there have been no games that have been good,
no games that have been fun to watch, No games.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Boy, I love this series.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I mean we've gotten this season great highlight read stuff
from either team. High Hey, in the final minute, let's
go through this sequence.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, I mean, really, do you need to watch these
games or can you just check in on it and
if it's close at the end, tune in. That's what
the NBA playoffs has become. It's become a check in
after the initial excite of the first round of the playoffs,
where you watch you get to games like this. If
you're not, if you're not a Denver or Minnesota fan,
are you tuning in the beginning to watch this game
or is it just man, every game someone's winning by
(06:11):
a blot. I'm sure the Nuggets will win by a
blow tonight, but it's not. It's a teal was winning
by a blowout. But twenty four point games, man, that's
that's really really difficult. I mean, that's really difficult to say, Hey,
I'm invested in this in the NBA playoffs, it's very
very hard.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I mean, we have had a couple of games decided
in this series by fewer than ten points, so I mean,
you know, a couple.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm trying. I'm trying hard, Ringo, it is.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I'm trying real hard to be. I'm trying to be
and walking us through. But yeah, there have been some
absolute disasters. And and here's another one. You saw the
rebounding efforts in the first half, tea Wolves coming out,
Mike Conley making his return. As we had we had
been talking about his importance to this squad. Twenty one minutes,
(06:56):
seven points for assists. Nothing world beating, but Edwards asserted
tonight twenty one points thus far and already a thirty
nine to twenty two rebounding advantage for Minnesota. So they
answered the bell, I'll give him credit after the last game,
and we certainly did critique a bunch of the post
(07:17):
game sound where everybody seemed resigned to yell one, two
three can kun. At some point it was like it
was coded, like you had to go through. It's like,
all right, where did he actually say canon? Where did
he say it? It's there, I swear it's an invisible
aan kid, But look again, this is why, and not
to make it about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What happy Nicks eve again.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
By the way, it's been six minutes, but that series
has gotten all our attention because the games have been
just a little bit closer.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's not like all these games are really close. They've
just lasted a little bit close to the last two games.
But at least they give your trauma. But at least
they get trauma.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Was where PJ. Car Lissimo's son was gonna golf. This
is like as your night throw. You heard him tell
that story, and it's like the third night in a row,
because that's what you've got to stretch time. But even
when so that's what they've had to do in each
of these last two games. Hey, what's what did you
get off the menu? No, but he's read page four
the game factory menu.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Wow, there's a lot of pages. I'm just saying, like,
that's kind of where these five minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You're not even in the appetizers. Yet on page four
you're you're still in, Like, hey, here's food, food, drinks.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like that's you're you're still there.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Hey, you're actually say'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But no.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But look, that's why even in the big blowouts, there's
still stories and there's still hatred between the two teams.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They can't stand each other at least the hell out.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But we didn't even get that for the Minnesota and
Denver it's oh man, what are they gonna say?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And what are you gonn Anthony Edwards, Hey, I gotta
give yo Kich his flowers. He's great. Wait, what what
about you can't stand the guy you need to be? What?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What is that you'll get is more upset at the
m v P trophy then he's at vis iss what.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We get in the nicks and pages? I want to
it's gonna be like a big war and I'm gonna
have a.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mace and you're gonna have a sword, and you're gonna
have a big speared We're gonna fight and we're just
gonna be like Anchorman, and in this series, it's hey, wow,
these guys are great. Oh okay, g thanks a lot.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
He did say he was tired of Aaron Gordon the
other day.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
We did get that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
As for Jo Kiss You, you obliquely referenced it there
talking about getting the MVP trophy, saying, I don't understand
why people cry about this. I mean whatever, I let
give the trophy for my horses to play with. I
mean that was kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We'll have more on that story coming up, because there
is a lot to get to with in the Kodokic
m v P Trophy story. Because I think those comments
may cost him any future MVP.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I think he was already resigned to the fact that
he probably wasn't getting another one.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't think that's gonna happen for him. They were
reticent to give him the thirdie. I guess we'll give
it to We can't give it to SGA. He plays
for Ohoma City. What are we gonna do now?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
We screwed the guy last year. Give it to Luca.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I don't know, I title, give him a word, I
don't know, I guess, and now we're done with him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
They washed my hands in my vote with you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
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(10:29):
we can hold our breath, we can exhale. After a
loose ball, Anthony Edwards was down on the floor for
a good few minutes, laying face down and just kind
of writhing a little bit, not moving a lot. You
had the emergency personnel out on the floor looking at him.
Probably was just dinged up a little bit, because after
a few minutes he got up, just hit a couple
(10:51):
of free throws sixty seven forty two. But certainly it
looked a little weird there for a couple of minutes.
As we're wondering, okay, is he getting what what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Looking at him, wasn't moving a lot Like first I
thought he get knocked unconscious because his face is like
laying on the on the on the on the floor,
and it's like, what is what is happening here? But
in the end he's up, he's playing again. He just
said free throws. He's out and he looks to be fine.
Uh so this is all good news. We continue on
with this game.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's kind of like when you and I are here
for Monday, Thursday, wait, Friday or Tuesday night football.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Uh, whatever happens. We see stuff in.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Live and in living color and it's like, wow, that's
a big hit. That guy's down and then it takes
a second and they pop back up with the NBA.
How many times have we seen it? And certainly wish
say on anybody, I'm not even saying it. I know
you were going to go No, no, no, it doesn't
need to be said.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
America knows where we're gonna come out here.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
No, no, no, it's where mine was.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Anthony Davis whenever he senses he might be injured, he
runs off the court.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
He always always run. You know, I'm going right off
the court. Together with that larger point was just I
recognize in general.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You're feeling you're in your fields about a D. I
get that, but it's it's become commonplace in the NBA.
I'm taking my minute. It's like soccer has come to
the NBA in terms of injuries and guys when they
go to the court.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They lay there for a minute or two. I'm not
saying anything out, but he was. I don't know, but
the thing is he was laying Here's why I knew.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I said, Okay, he's he's he's got to feel it,
he's got to need it. Needs a couple of minutes,
because he was laying in a very uncomfortable position. Where
if you're gonna be down and you're gonna find a
way to lay in a comfortable position, you're not gonna lay.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To make comfortable position the comfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
How is laying with your face down buried into the
floor comfortable? Only if you're two years old? Can you
sleep like that? They can't sleep like that? Now, come on,
he's in his twenties. You can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You don't, No, you can't do it. Let's listen.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Michael Jordan slept like that after winning the championship.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know, that's banging his fist on the floor and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's one of my big pet peeves in movies is
when people wake up the positions they're sleeping, and that
they wake up from them, Like, who sleeps in that position?
Nobody sleeps with one arm behind their back and their
mouth all the way open, with their head hanging over
the bed.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nobody's big sleep. Nobody sleeps that way. Nobody every day?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Nobody.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Everybody sleeps like nobody sleeps that way?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No Frostburg, Who eats that way? David Household, this is
a mess?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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the tirec dot Com studio. So Yes play has resumed
in Minnesota. Is a sixty nine forty eight lead. Teables
with the big lead just over seven minutes ago in
the Third World. Have more on this game coming up,
but straight ahead. It was Caitlin Clark's home debut tonight.
How did it go?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Minnesota in control over Denver, eighty one fifty five, two
and a half to go in the third quarter. Looks
like we're headed to Game seven. Now say it looks
like sometime left which things happened. Yeah, yeah, but Denver.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Might hit a shot, might get a rebound. Yeah, but
this is a yeah, this is a twenty four point league.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Wow, this is the crew where back in Game two,
Minnesota was just beating the crap of the Denver players.
Yeah yeah, and when Jamal Murray started to lose his
mind and all of that stuff. So I'm telling you, man,
Scott Foster is like a fireman in the playoffs, like
he's he's got all right, the call could come at
any time.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The guy we got series out here that need to
go a certain way. I am.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm ready for that phone call, whatever it is, whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Wow, that one's not him tonight. No, he's there.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I always liked the you know, when he gets to
the microphone and has to do the review, he is
not going to cheat you on word count.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I bet you. I bet you.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He's kind of like in the beginning of Breaking Bed
when Walter had the two phones and he kept one
secret from Skyler and they she found out when he
was in the hospital getting surgery and she goes, oh,
where's your phone?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He says which one? Like I feel it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Scott Foster he has his phone and then he's got
the Adam Silver phone and he like I would walk
around if I was single walking go you see this
is my cell phone. Yeah that's great, but you see
what this phone is. With this phone, I can change
the world with this. It's all bedazzled or is it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Or is it like in uh Indiana Jones and you
know the Last Crusade where it's it's the no, the
simple Carpenter's cutlip phone. It's a nick logo on it. Yeah, no, no,
that's not that's the song. So it's this phone clip
phone that looks like it's been beaten. The hell that
phone with a nick logo on it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And this phone rings, it glows phone rings.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You just wait, I gotta talk into the right phone.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Uh so, you know, but I remember he's always there
break last in case emergency. But here we are likely
headed to Game seven again. A minute to go on
the third, eighty three fifty seven. It's been all Minnesota
from the jump in this game now eighty six fifty seven.
I have a feeling we're gonna see maybe Alex English
play in the fourth quarter a little bit Ooh clear
the bench, let's get who do we get? But Caitlin
(17:10):
Clark had her home debut tonight for the Indiana fever.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes she did.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And TJ I got a fever and the only prescription
is a few days off so they stop losing games Liberty,
the New York Liberty, who's one of the top teams
the WNBA. Again, Indiana opening up against two of the
best teams in the WNBA. They don't just lose, they
lose like this game, one oh two to sixty six
(17:37):
Brianna Stewart thirty one points and ten rebounds. Caitlin Clark's
home debut not completely terrible. She scored nine points. She
only turned the ball over three times, so that's a
big and protty good.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
She was nine points, six assists, seven rebounds, two out
of eight from the four, five personal fouls.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
One of seven from five point range.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So it's not a great debut. It's not a great
first couple of games. But they're fun. These games are fine.
Caitlyn Clark getting used to the w NBA. Yes, it's
going to happen. She had two preseason games, right, the
WNBA has no preseason. You play two games, we're getting
ready to go. It's like the NFL, let's go. But
but she's fine. The game's not too big for her,
and and she's getting to handle the ball. The one
(18:20):
thing I will say is, boy, some of these foul
calls if you're like every time she sticks that hand in.
It's a whistle no matter what. And you know sometimes
I think, ah, did you really now some foul?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
She hearned?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She and it's it's their stupid fouls. Like what are
you doing? You know watching her tonight, Like, okay, you
know that that's a ridiculous play. You saw her get
mad first time. Kaitlyn Clark is screaming at the ref
didn't like a couple of cars.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Man. I mean, you can go back and find a
little supper film from the Yeah you get first game.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you got her yelling at the refs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And I feel like, you know, she sticks her hand
in any good a foul, so a little bit with
the tiki tak fouls continuing again, that's something she'll get
used to.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But it's also the thing you like.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I mean, you've coached your your daughter's soccer team, you
coach softball.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
As always, they're consistent.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Right, if we're gonna call tiki tag little reach in balls,
then let's let's make sure we're doing this. Yeah, and
let's make it a whistle fast and make it all
about you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If that's what they want to do. Let's just agree
that this game is gonna be about.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You miss this game tonight. Sure, otherwise let them play.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now again, you're gonna see a lot of Diana Tarassi
was right, Yes, of course there always is a welcome
to the NBA, welcome to the NFL, welcome to the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
But that I think was everybody took it as the
big am in his big bad Guyana Tarazzi saying, well,
Blanke you rook.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, it was like, no, it is a step up
in class. Yeah, no, it happen.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I mean there was a reality kind of moment of hey,
it's it's a different league.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We'll see how it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, that's that's absolutely fine. And look and there there's
two takeaways from this It's too big to understand about
Caitlin Clark and and this early part by why is
she not scoring thirty one points? Why are team not
winning things? First is oh, by the way, how quickly
have we gone to? WNBA? Games are nightly highlights and
nightly staples of talking about them, whether it's Caitlin Clark,
(20:09):
whether it's Angel Reese, whether it's Kelsey Plumb who now,
hey make room with the table for Kelsey Plum.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Uh you know, you see her endorsement deals. Yeah, you're
seeing new stars coming out. Man, Darren Waller's an idiot.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, Darren pers jesus, he's just been getting tagged all
over social media.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You're forty eight.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But look, you have now seen the Caitlin Clark effect.
Now where WNBA games are nightly highlights, they're nightly stories.
Their stuff we pay attention to. They have sudden relevance
all because Caitlin Clark is in the league. And it's
great that now we're opening up and talking about other players.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Angel Reese's debut was a big deal and she was fine.
Kelsey Plum's a huge star and she's a starting with deal.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Cara got a bunch of run on the local news
and exact last night. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's awesome that that's the case, because like I told you,
she was going to have a man, Chick and Larry
like effect on the w n B A and here
we are. The w NBA has now gotten Now they
said next week they're gonna have charter flights for everybody.
It's taken care of. And now you're part of the
every night highlight in sports. Right, it's a great, great time.
She's already having that effect. So that's the first takeaway.
(21:18):
The second one is this, you want to know why
reason no one's talking about Caitlin Clark's not scoring thirty
teams not winning.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
There's just one problem. There's just there's just one problem,
because I have problem. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So you're gonna nail it down to one thing. There's
just one reason. There's just one Leason. You're going all
curly one thing.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yes, there's just let's go Jack Palin.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What's that one thing? I don't know, but curly new
there's only one thing, one one thing. You're gonna nail
it down to brass tax right here.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
One thing. There's only is only one thing that that
that's really like the island. There can be only one, only.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One, only one. You got and you cut somebody's head
off to be the next. So you cut somebody's head off,
you become the next Highland. Well then you have the quickening,
so you get all their power. Okay, all right, good, okay.
So it's kind of like in time when you do
the when you do the wrestle Timberlake. Okay, I just
want to love your baby.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
There's only one thing justin Timberlake didn't have songs an
original concept by queen.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I just want to love your baby.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
No, that's how he sounds. It's not tim Timberlake sounds.
I'm saying it was good, but go ahead, it's amazing.
I'm in this space with you. Yeah, do that thing
didn't work. Let's go. There's only one thing. One thing.
There's one thing behind this case, one vision.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
There's one moment that no one is talking about, and
it's it's something that you're not gonna say, you're gonna go.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
It's very element I mean, you're saying that this is
the explain it to me like I'm a five year
old you on a moment.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You are not gonna walk away from this and saying oh,
well no, no, no, no, okay, this is this is
not three body problems where you have to figure out
what is what what's going on? I understand with forces
and gravitational pulls and when are the aliens coming? It's
very very simple. All right, there's one problem, break it down.
Come on now, the Indiana fever. Yeah, stink, that's the problem.
(23:07):
Well they stink, right.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
They played the number two and three teams from last season, right,
The aces were number one, the Ace of Spades, and
then you had the Sun and and now the Liberty.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So yeah, they stink. And I'm not saying they stink
because wow, they're underachieving. No, this is a team that stinks.
The reason why they had the number one pick in
the w NBA draft. And yes, Caitlin Clark is a
transformative player, but this is the first two games and
you're playing two of the best teams in the league
with established superstar players like Stuart and i Escu. I mean,
(23:45):
these are star players. Your team stinks. I mean, it's
just a case that's not I mean, it's not a
shot at anybody.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
It's just true.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Stuart, former guest of the show, had tonight, I Meani
the fever. Just not good. They're not no good.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I mean, and even back to back years where you
get bring in a Leah Boston who was fantastic, we
watched her college career, and now you add Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, that's two. Yeah, you need a little bit
more and it takes a little bit of time. But
that's the main issue is that, Hey, okay, it's like,
look think about this. Wemby shows up with San Antonio. Oh,
Wenby Wenby Wenby Wenby was unbelievable. Right Rookie of the Year,
he was unanimous. This guy within By this time next
year will be saying he's one of the top three
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players in the league. And it's not it's not even
gonna be a debate, that's how good he is. But
the Spurs nineteen, well they won as many games as
they did. I mean to earn the rights to get him.
There's only one problem with Wemby. One problem the Spurs sting.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's the problem. That's what happens. The starting lineup for
the Fever. They scored forty points. They were outscored thirty
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Look watching this game, you can see, Okay, one team
is clearly at a higher level and this team is
figuring it out. And when you're not good, it's harder
to find space to get shots because there's nobody. Hey,
we have to worry about here. We got to play
the defense got to be a little sag a little bit.
It's not like, hey, Caitlin Clark is the best player
on IOWA and and you're playing teams that are about
(25:22):
as good as you and she's still gonna find a
way to get open and have screen set for it
everything else. It's quite different in the pros when hey,
there's a reason why we've won all these games. This
is not We just don't let you run around and
take shots like this. So as the fever get a
little bit better, yeah, you're gonna see more space on
the floor. For Caitlyn Clark, she's already cut down on
the turnovers in a big way after her first game.
(25:43):
She's learning, she's picking it up. It's fine, but understand
that the fever aren't good. They're not gonna win a
lot of games. And really it's not anything that's abnormal
in basketball. A team that picks first in the lottery
generally doesn't just jump to now, we're gonna win the
whole league.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Now, schedule, you get a little bit of h luck
with the ping pong balls to where a team that's
kind of just inside of the lottery fourteen jumps all the.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Way to one that doesn't happen very often normally.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
It is, and I'm not gonna say it's you know,
an Ocean's eleven scheme where they're waiting down.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
A ball, I drop and it just stays on the ground,
ping pong ball and suddenly they're they're injecting it with
the land the Bobby go on.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You've seen THELLS doesn't pop up? What else is popping
that one's just kind of rolling around the Hey, there
it is Indiana fever number one. Overall. There you have it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But it just the idea that you're gonna make a
huge jump in the NFL. Yeah, we get because of
the idea of parody, the amount of movement in free
agency and the draft, all of it comes together to
where we get worse to first within divisions. Right, almost
every year we get a handful of teams that have
the opportunity, which leaves hope for you know, the Bears
(27:02):
and the Jets and whatever else that they could rise up.
But it's it's not as easy in these other sports,
and especially you know when you're on the learning curve. Right,
Boston's in year two, she's got her sea legs. And
for Caitlyn Clark, I mean, you're gonna get everybody's best punch.
And the first two rounds were against two of the
(27:23):
best three teams returning from a year now, it's good continuity.
You're also trying to navigate and it's not excuse making.
You're you're just going reasons versus excuses. And it's been
bad basketball, right, I mean, Caitlyn Clark has not played well.
You can't excuse it altogether. But it's a learning curve.
What's gonna get me in foul trouble? Back to back game,
(27:44):
she's in foul trouble. Ergo you know, you're not as
aggressive on defense and even on offense. All those sets
kind of go away that you're expecting to have that
same kind of Can.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You get to the hoop?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Can you go to the hoop as strong knowing that
your next file is your I mean it's look, it's
it's it's all part of it. It's all, it's all
part of it. But mainly, just understand that even when
you're transformative, Wemby couldn't get the Spurs twenty wins. I mean,
Wemby couldn't do it. And we certainly saw some games.
I mean remember his debut, how bad that was? Oh yeah,
(28:18):
it was passing too much. Oh now it's all okay,
Now he's gonna be east.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
And then he started you know, hitting three point shots
and and showed the acumen and on both ends of
the court. But it took time. And for Caitlin Clark,
the trust has to be there. Angel Rees had a
nice debut.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
They lost. Cameron Brink had a nice debut. Like oh
that Like they'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Like as a class, they're gonna be scrutinized with every
outing and who shows up to film themselves for reality
shows when they're on the court. But look, it's fun
to see more breadth of coverage. I know my daughters
certainly have appreciated it this first week of the w
NBA season.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Twitter, and how about a Fresco Mike has swallowing down
the Jason Smith Show with mom my best friend Mike Carmon. Now,
you know how Chris Berman would announce Caitlin Clark and
the Fever losing their game tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You know Berman would do it, Okay, he would say, and.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
TJ, it's Indiana, not Cincinnati, but it's over. Johnny Fever
lose once again, TJ, you got a Johnny Fever and
nicely done, doctor Johnny Fever.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Very nice, Thank you very much. To Happy birthday, Howards.
Oh it was oh happy. I don't know birthday.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You can't stop talking? Got it because I got a
great boomer impression. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Does he know that?
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't know. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I I always a couple of people I talked to
an ESPN. I think he does. I think he knows
a little bit on the show ten years dude, because
it's it's ten o'clock on the on the he's in
his sixties.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He's probably in bed. He lives in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He doesn't host Baseball Tonight anymore, you know, on the
West Coast, not staying up. Did he move?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know? How do you know?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
More?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But you say, oh, you know all day? How do
you know where he lives? How do you know where
he lives? It's hey, what's the score of that Dodger game? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay? Uh? Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Speaking of the Dodger game against Cincinnati, it is show
heo Tani bobblehead night at Chavez Ravine. Already Otani bobbleheads
from the game have hit eBay. Wait, do we tell
you what the prices are for him? This is some
(30:39):
kind of story coming up next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
In game betting right now, I think if you're Denver,
you're adding forty.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You think that's about right? Oh, I don't know. Let
me pull it up.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Minnesota leads Denver right now one ten to sixty three
with five minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Denver
may not break seventy in this game. We are headed
to Game seven back in Denver. It has been all
Minnesota from the jump. In this game.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well on Bovada they had gotten up to plus forty
one and a half.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It is no longer available for wagers. Oh really, yeah,
they took it away. Numbers are too high. We're over forty. Man,
we can't do it. I'm curious as to you know,
what the uh what the deal was there?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So again, we'll have more breaking down the NBA playoffs
on the way. We got Rick Buker stopping by to
talk about him with us tonight ahead of the Knicks
game six tomorrow. Nixon six Nix, is you know it's
only a two point line, yeah, going into the game,
But tonight is also bobblehead Night. Shoho Tani Bobblehead Night
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at Dodger State. One of two Dodgers trail the Red
right now two to nothing in the second inning. Normally
when a Dodger game starts, there's a lot of empty
seats because look, Dodger game has always been late riving
crowd from work.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You see it.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
By the time you get to the third inning, the
stands are filled. Stands were filled from the beginning of
this one because it was Otani Bobblehead Night. Forty thousand bobbleheads. First,
forty thousand people through the gates got an Otani bobblehead. Already,
there's some on eBay. And now here's the next part
of the story of the forty thousand bobbleheads. Seventeen hundred,
(32:33):
not seventeen thousand. Seventeen hundred of them were of Otani
in a gray away jersey. The rest of all Otanian
in a home jersey. So if you got one of those,
you know, they just hand him out, hand them out,
hand them out. If you get one of those in
a gray jersey, obviously, They're worth way more money than
the Otani bobblehead in a Dodger's white home jersey. And
(32:57):
as you told me, a gray one has already hit
eBay and been.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Sold, already sold in seven fifteen tonight.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Because I remember the days, as you know, certainly, I
lived up in the Bay Area, and when the Oakland
A's were at their their hottest, people would show up
get the bobbleheads, and then they'd be on eBay immediately
thereafter because they'd have to go take you know, the
pictures and load it and whatever, saying hey, I've got
it in hand. Well now you can do that on
your phone, so you don't even have to get to
(33:28):
your seat. Uh, twelve hundred and forty nine dollars on
a buy it now at seven fifteen.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
The standard white uniform home issue is going anywhere from
one fifty five, and I've seen as high as two fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That sounds about right. That sounds about forty thou so
usually gonna be a lot of That's a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Usually bobbleheads they go for between when you get them,
they get resold. The resale valves around thirty bucks thirty five.
The ref is a pretty good one to get get
up to fifty. But here's Otiani. Look, they had Otani
pillow night in Anaheim, and most of the times, all
of a sudden, guys going through with multiple tickets to
get as many as.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
They get that giant bag.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, no, I mean so the same thing here.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I have no doubt that the first people through the
gates immediately well ride out the gate and tried to
get back in to see if they can get a
second and maybe hit the lottery with the gray uniform.
Now Mary Heart's at the game. Do you think she
has a Grayotanni bibblehead? Do you think they made sure
she got one?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You going Illuminati and celebrity.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Hey, wait a minute, Mary, we got hey celebrity celebrating
a birthday today include you because you get the gray
bobble in youngratulations.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
That's a special one BEP birthday to yea half be birthday.
And she's just dancing around holding up the babble in
and then they go, no, Mary, we need to escort
you to your car.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You need to leave the game. But I'm here to
watch the game. No, you have a Grayotanni babble and
you need to leave the game.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Right away, valuable Marchian for you, and no that is
that is some next level stuff. Wondering if there is
you know, some kind of chaos that will ensue, because
we've seen people battle in the stands for less, that's
for sure. Sure, sure, But the packaging is really cool
as well. I mean, not that that's the selling point
to it, but some anime imagery and whatever the box
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says in a cool font whatever. I mean, it's actually
very attractive package you. Normally it used to be in
the just plain white with the styrofoat holder's where you
did actually see.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What the bobblehead was.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
This one, I mean you still have to open it
to see whether you got the special bobblehead, but there's
at least packaging is nice as opposed to here.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We saved every dime we could in getting this to you.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Happy birthday, your obsessive big birthday.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Do you think any of the people in the media
throng were able to get the rare bobblehead?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you think Bob going called Mary Hart and today
get me one of the great ones to get me
a gray one? Hat be birthday too? Yeah? Hat the
birthday too? Yeah, don't I don't know the do they
talk outside of work?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I gotta think they do. I don't know what else
are they doing. We're gonna talk and then I'm gonna
watch the dodge again. Maybe what's gonna happen. Now, let
me ask you this, miss mister uh, mister Illuminati of
of merchandise and memorabilia. So right now, it looks like
you can get this is the twelve hundred dollars, the
is the going price? Is this the nader of the
(36:30):
market or do you think as time goes on you
can get more money for these Otani bobbleheads.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Well, I would say this, and looking at it now
you actually can see what you got as antity. So
now we have to question the security guards and people
that are, you know, administrating this process because you know,
you might shuffle some of the greatest to the back
because he used to just be a blind thing. But yeah,
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forty thousand, the base one's gonna come down because there's gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Be a lot of e Well you're talking about forty three.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
But if you sif people sell a bunch of these
seventeen and there turns out at the end to be
eight or nine hundred left.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, the great one.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
The market will dry up because a lot of them
will go into personal collections. Sure, so only maybe a
third of that at most really circulate when it's all
said and done. So yeah, I mean there's long term
staying power for this. So how far beyond the twelve hundred, like.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Twenty five hundred? You might double maybe down the line?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Sound So someone gets desperate and says I need one
for my collection, I could sell it now for twelve hundred,
or if I want to hold on to it for.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
TBA, I could get twenty five potentially.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Okay, all right, potentially, but I would take the twelve
hundred run, let the market figure it out, and then
go find something else to invest in.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Happy Birthday too, uh.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Jason Spedd Mike Harmon Live the Tirec dot Com Studios
coming up next. Yeah, we have to get into what's
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Livenatirack dot Com Studios, where only Game of the night. Thankfully,
if you had the Nuggets getting forty four, oh you
(38:19):
were so close, te Wolves win it one fifteen to
seventy this series now tied at three games apiece, heading
back to Denver for Game seven. So far this series,
Game one was Minnesota by seven. Game two is Minnesota
by twenty six, Game three, Denver by twenty seven. Game four,
Denver by eight, Game five, Denver by fifteen, Game six,
(38:41):
Minnesota by forty five. How are these teams taking turns
and blowouts like this? It doesn't seem possible yet here
we are. But this is what I mean when I
say the NBA's got a playoff problem.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Yeah, but we got a game seven. Maybe let's go
joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
He's got new walk up music now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Fox Sports one, NBA insider host of the On the
Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is
at Rick Buker. Go, Rick Bucher, Go, Rick Bucher, Go
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Buden h having yep?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Getting this scene back in the bottle? Is there? Okay?
All right? I just thought I figured there was a
certain amount of a certain amount of jealousy because the
the Knicks, for the most part, don't have these kind
of blowout games. I know they're Game five. They finally
(39:46):
put one of those one of those together. But their
standard is we're gonna do We're gonna we're gonna grind
this to the end because that's who they are. So uh, nonetheless,
uh thank you for the for the walcome well.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Because here's the thing, Rick, is that Nicks Pacers used
to be the norm in the NBA playoff series were
like this. They were contentious. Yes there were blogs, but
there was still each team wants to beat the brains
out of the other one. And as much as you
want to say Rick Carlisle is crying or he isn't,
I know how bad he wants to win this series.
But I look at the NBA playoff and I go,
(40:21):
they have a real problem with the number of stars
that continue to not play. And you wonder why a
guy like Donovan Mitchell's not playing the last two games.
Over fifty players have missed games so far. And when
the NBA puts their best and the best out here
and every game is a blowout, and sometimes it's a
twenty five point blow out swing from Game two to
Game three, I say this is an issue for the NBA.
(40:43):
This is why the NFL has come after Christmas Day,
because you want to be able to say, hey, here's
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
This is the best of what we have. And most
of the time it's games where hey, I can just
check in on this and if it's close, I'll watch it.
Like every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, I mean it's it's the combination of things, but
the league has created it. Some of it is just
the three point shot has become such a huge part
of it. And for example, in the Nuggets game tonight,
I mean, they had wide open shots, they simply missed them.
(41:19):
And going seven to thirty six is going to lead
to not only miss shots, but but long rebounds, which
are fast breaks going the other way. And then the
general lack of physicality or the inconsistency there. If you're
getting a whistle, if you're getting a good whistle and
you're and you're their aggressive aggressor and you're making threes,
(41:42):
these things can get out of out of line in
a hurry, and generally the attempt to come back. What's
the attempt when you when you get down by twenty,
let's shoot some more three And so it compounds the
problem if you're not making them leads, the more run
out leads, the more quick. I will say if I
was Minnesota, I might like I might have had like
(42:06):
a five pass run the clock down rule, because making
it forty five embarrassing the defending champions going into a
Game seven. I'm not sure that that's the right recipe
for I'm just you know, and watching the Denver bench,
watching Yokis and those guys were taking it all in
(42:31):
and there was nothing they could do about it this game.
But I would expect that they're going to do something
about it in Game seven.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Well, you know, their teammates showed up and put up
nine points in the fourth quarter, so they really gave.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It back to him.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Rig. The most interesting thing the Nuggets did today was
well former coach George carl just shaking his fist and
telling everybody to get off his lawn about all sorts
of NBA related product. That was more interesting than anything
I saw on the court.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
He had another he had another Twitter.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's going after Laker fans, going
after effort, going you name it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
He's got it. So it's it's all fun.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
That's that's George. That's just George. I mean, it's it's
on Twitter. Anybody who knew him in the league. That
was him all the time. Like, it's not a personality
change by any stress of the event.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Today, Well, let's let's let's I'll und one for you.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
What's that.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
I'll read one for you and you can jump off
on George for this one because we'll get back into
the remaining teams alive. I'll give the Lakers coaching search
committee a free advice today. Lebron isn't a superstar anymore
and a D will never be one.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
S George coming with both barrels. Wow, I mean he's right,
so and I actually I mean he it's that's violent.
That's just committing violentce on Twitter. But it is at
the heart of it. It is the issue that the
(44:09):
Lakers are facing in terms of hiring a coach. I
think there's this idea that if they get the right coach,
their championship can contenders. Again, they don't have a championship roster.
So and at the same time, you have veterans like
Lebron and a D who want a coach that is
(44:30):
going to coach them like they're playing for a championship.
So you're not going to get a rebuilding guy. So
you're really caught at cross purposes. I mean, I wouldn't
say it exactly the way George said it, but I
get his point and I agree with it. It's it's
(44:50):
in fact, one of the stories that I'm working on
right now is you know how you rank the Lakers job?
And I hate to give away some of what I
already have, but like one of the one of the
sources that I talked to executives that it's still a
(45:11):
great job because you're when you get fired, you can
say I was a Lakers head coach and no one
is going to blame you. They're just going to figure
that's the circumstances of being a part of that organization
at this point, and so that's kind of that's that's
that's where we are at this point. So they can
(45:32):
hire whoever they want, and uh, it's probably not going
to work, and when it doesn't, it's not going to
be looked at as the coach's fault.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Well that's the thing where because I look at it
and go, I don't think it matters. I mean, who
out there outside of reuniting with Frank Vogel, who I
know would make them better defensively, and if you can't
improve and make deals. Improving defensively is something you really
can can help you, you know, in your one loss record,
because we know it works. I think they should get
to other and say, hey, whatever happened is in the past,
(46:02):
has worked before, won a title, let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I mean, I don't know they likes are are are
lebron and ad going to listen to.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
JJ Reddick if he comes and he tells me, are
they going to listen to Kenny Atkinson? Or are they
just going to go do what they've been doing for
the last few years. That's kind of what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah, I mean, no, it's it's I'll let me put
it this way. I believe there's a way of if
you come in and you have a plan and it
and it works flawlessly, then I think those guys will listen.
But this is the problem is that if you're talking
about JJ Reddick and you're talking about Kenny Atkinson or
(46:39):
anybody coming in, the chances that it's going to work
flawlessly right off the jump, Uh is just not real realistic.
And and so that's the challenge. And the second that
it doesn't work, and no, they're not they're not going
to listen anymore. But and that's not just with them,
that's what the NBA players in general like. You lose
(47:00):
your credibility. You can lose your credibility in a heartbeat,
especially if you're a coach who doesn't have a track record.
And I'm not mad at your idea about bringing bringing
Frank Vogel back. In theory, it'll never happen, because this
is one of the other things that is a challenge
when it comes to hiring a Lakers coach is that
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it's got to have disass it's got to have like
a certain amount of splash. And because Darvin had been
there and he'd been on the pistons, you could dress
it up in a way to make it look like
that it was a shrewd pick and and it was sexy.
But again, this is where the Lakers find themselves in
(47:44):
terms of like Darvin Ham becomes the sexy, sexy pick.
And they've they've they've they've slow played this once again,
so it's not like they're getting the cream of the cross.
And and and this may be this may be the
careeratest indication of where the Lakers are is that Mike
(48:06):
Gutenholzer wasn't a waiting around to see if he could
get the Lakers job. He grabbed the Phoenix job. And
so the idea that the Lakers are somehow in a
better position or are a better team the coach at
(48:26):
this stage than the Phoenix Suns, who by all accounts,
the feeling is is like that's a flawed roster. Nobody
talks about the Lakers being the flawed roster like and
yet like Booterholds had told you, it's more flawed than
the Phoenix Sun. I'll take my chances over here.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I dig that response.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Of all the jobs in the NBA that are available,
the Lakers job, it's one of them, all right? Which
team is more likely to close out in Game six?
The Mavericks or this guy's Nicks?
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Oh would go, I'm going to go with both of
them closing out. I mean, or who's who's more likely?
I I feel like they both understand what it is
that they that they need to do and and are
in position to do it. Uh, Indiana just is not
(49:19):
playing with the the effort or the energy necessary. And
UH and the Dallas Mavericks have have have figured things
out with with Oklahoma City. I mean essentially, it's it's
Shay Gilgess Alexander and you can let him get what
he what he wants. The supporting cast. To me, everybody
(49:41):
made a big deal out of Luka Dotsi's and the
triple double. What made them great is that Luca didn't
try to do everything himself, and the supporting casts were
the huge difference, and I don't think we looked at
that theories quite that way. I think if you ask
somebody going in this series who had the better complimentary players,
(50:04):
I think most people would have gone with uh, with
the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Dallas Mavericks. Complimentary players
to me, were the huge difference in that pivotal Game five.
They all came, they all delivered, and I would expect
that you're going to see the same thing back on
(50:25):
their home floor in Game six.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Lastly, does does your predictions change if Scott Foster is
assigned to either of those games?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (50:36):
Normally that would be Yes, potentially, But I mean for
the most part, Scott's been kind of quiet this this playoff.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yes, he's had an underachieving playoffs so far. Really, he's
not been great.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, you know what.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
You know, what's funny is like Datcics was giving the
referee such a hard time in game four. I mean
he was questioning every single call. And the great distinction
was in game five he didn't at all like he
was he was complimenting them. He was he was like
a good call, raising call for a falie, raising his hand.
(51:13):
He was going over and talking to guys in between,
like eight, uh, is there a good place to eat
dinner in Oklahoma City? Like but you, I mean it
was it was such a departure. But I was thinking,
as I'm watching game four, he's giving them hell. And
meanwhile he's got more turnovers than than shots made. He
(51:33):
misses a critical free throw at the end, like he
had a he had a terrible game. I just wish
the referees had had started like like given him flack
for his game, Like as he's running back down correct
this in another three, like, referees, what the hell is that?
What are you doing? Like why are you taking that
pack the ball?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Luca?
Speaker 7 (51:55):
What I would have given for that, because it was marriage.
If he was giving them the hell about their performance,
he could have given it right back to him. Hey, buddy,
you're not exactly what good running the grade out here yourself.
So I don't want to hear about me missing any calls. Okay,
you're missing shock.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You don't even better as if the rest would say,
so heka, how comes sometimes down the floor you look awesome,
and then sometimes down the floor you're limping when you
get beat defensively and it looks like you can't really
do anything. But yet the next time down the floor,
you're getting some kind of slide step three and you
look great.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
How come that is, Luca? Why is that?
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all of that, but look you turn
it down and I and I hope he I hope
he learned something, because it really it really made a difference,
you know, his You can't tell me that when he's
constantly yapping and bickering and chewing on the referees and
(52:55):
not getting back on defense because of it, or you know,
just always looking for calls, you can't tell me that
that doesn't affect the team at large. And that part
of what had all of them locked in was the
fact that he just went out and played basketball, and
so everybody else did too. And I would fully expect
(53:17):
that you're going to see the same thing. I would
hope that you're going to see the same thing in
game six. So you know, one other thing I will
tell you one of the other pieces that I'm doing
working on is about the about Tom Thibodeau's approach because
this is what I absolutely love. So he has to
go into his bench, right, and he finds out, oh,
(53:38):
I got some guys who can play here. I would, right,
but this is what I love. So he has to
go into his bench and he still only plays.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Six and a half.
Speaker 7 (53:58):
Tim. Tom said, it is not changing for anybody under
any circumstances. I don't care who have to play. I'm
only playing six and a half guys, okays, I don't
care who they are.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out Beyond the Ball podcast again what he's working on.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
As far as Lakers head coaching, Tom Thibodeau, uh Rick
is always buddy.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Appreciate it, man. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Greetings, Happy nicks Eve. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What's the Hurricane score?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Live?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
From the title? They didn't play tonight. I don't know
if you saw that. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
They didn't play in the third period and played tonight.
That was awful. That was just wow. That's psychological. That
was awful. You came in looking all stunned. I thought
you got shut out trying to get an O TWI
bobble hole man. I had to watch the Mets give
up the lead twice and Daz again in the ninth inning,
and then I had to.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Watch a natural hat trick in the third period, and
I'm going my team is going to lose again. Another
year of being a Stanley Cup favorite and we're gonna
lose again in the second round of the place.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Diz need to change in entry music or what? Just
needs more time? He just did not.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean he's whole closing game.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, no, he's coming back from a year away from
from his achilles and the stuff just isn't quite there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He's not. Look, he hit a guy to tie the game.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, a couple of days coming, No, but he
needs a little bit of time to get back in
and I get it. And the thing is, the bullpen's
been great. It's just this, this is one of those days.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But yeah, how did we get to the Mets May sixteenth?
But I know, buddy, I know it started.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
We get the joke and then he went on and
piled on him on how crappy his day was.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was Jason, what did I tell you two months ago?
And you said, no way in hell?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
What did you tell me that you guys would almost
have the same record as the A's.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think you guys have identical wins. Well, hey, we're
better than the Astros. If you told me, yeah, you're
better than the Astros, all right, man, yeah, yeah, we
haven't had a player busted for a bad glove.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean yet, we don't have shers there anymore. So
I think it's okay, We'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
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a little upset. The Hurricanes were going to the third pier.
I'm like, we're going to force game seven. We're gonna
come down from three zip and force game seven against
a team that I don't like, maybe just as much
(02:33):
as I don't like Georgetown and from being a fan
growing up. And then the Rangers score four goals in
the third period and crinder as a natural hat trick,
and I'm saying myself, this is another year where where
Stanley Cup dreams and we lose early the playoffs. I
just have to understand that, Carrol, We're just a regular
season good team. Like there's good teams, there's playoff cond ten,
(02:54):
and then there's seems that you're good in the regular
season when the playoffs. Come, Yeah, we're a regular season.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Good. Well, you know what you're excitable for eighty two games? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I have that. And in the end, so you
have that, And in the end, what do I say?
I got the Knicks, man, I got a lot on
my plate right now.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But it's all been about bridges since we've been doing
this show.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
How do I build a bridge from.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's funny I bring up bridges. We get another boat
getting running into a bridge. But when we have these
these conversations about your psyche as a fan, it's always
the how do I bridge from one team to the next?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, Like I said, so, you really need the Knicks
to at least survive another week.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Then everything else is melting down.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I told you last night, I need the Knicks to
take me past the Mets and like jet plane over
the Mets to get to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, you're gonna be able to get the Jets. I
don't know that that's gonna happen me.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You had rookie meaning camp I don't think they're scheduled
to show up again.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You get to one more round of the playoffs, and
then we get into the end of the season and
and and we were weigh and then the Jets are
coming to camp in a month.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Okay, well you Rogers medium No, no, don't because it's
every show that it works.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Those are those are the Those are the four most
dangerous words to the New York Jets this year, Aaron
Rodgers media appearance. Those are you can't you can't have those,
We can't have those. Those are four words that make
my skin just go ah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
What did he say? What's going on? What are we doing?
What are we doing? I heard he's going on Kremlin TV.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think he probably is. I think he's there. Oh
I thought you said.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I thought you said we're gonna have to go to
the Kremlin mission impossible?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
For what If he's hanging out with Steven Seagal, he
might be, He might be, man, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It might help him avoid the turf monster that got
him last year.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Maybe he's going to be the villain in Stephen Saggal's
next movie. And he says he doesn't watch Adult.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Exactly that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But we'll begin with the NBA tonight, because look, like
we said last night, the NBA has a playoff problem.
Too many blowouts, too many stars not playing for different reasons,
and this is why it's a it's an issue, and
and when a sport needs to be playing its best
at its most critical time, when they have the most
eyeballs on it, Eventually, this is why ratings decrease. This
(05:13):
is why the NFL jumps on Christmas Day and the
NBA has got a playoff problem.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The blowouts.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Even in close series, the games aren't like this Timberwolves
Nugget series, which now the t Wolves lead early in
the third quarter, by twenty four sixty six forty two,
middle of the middle of the third quarter. And even
though this series is gonna end, is gonna be three
to three, there have been no games that have been good,
no games that have been fun to watch, No games.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Boy, I love this series.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I mean we've gotten this season great highlight read stuff
from either team. High Hey, in the final minute, let's
go through this sequence.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, I mean, really, do you need to watch these
games or can you just check in on it and
if it's close at the end, tune in. That's what
the NBA playoffs has become. It's become a check in
after the initial excite of the first round of the playoffs,
where you watch you get to games like this. If
you're not, if you're not a Denver or Minnesota fan,
are you tuning in the beginning to watch this game
or is it just man, every game someone's winning by
(06:11):
a blot. I'm sure the Nuggets will win by a
blow tonight, but it's not. It's a teal was winning
by a blowout. But twenty four point games, man, that's
that's really really difficult. I mean, that's really difficult to say, Hey,
I'm invested in this in the NBA playoffs, it's very
very hard.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I mean, we have had a couple of games decided
in this series by fewer than ten points, so I mean,
you know, a couple.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm trying. I'm trying hard, Ringo, it is.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I'm trying real hard to be. I'm trying to be
and walking us through. But yeah, there have been some
absolute disasters. And and here's another one. You saw the
rebounding efforts in the first half, tea Wolves coming out,
Mike Conley making his return. As we had we had
been talking about his importance to this squad. Twenty one minutes,
(06:56):
seven points for assists. Nothing world beating, but Edwards asserted
tonight twenty one points thus far and already a thirty
nine to twenty two rebounding advantage for Minnesota. So they
answered the bell, I'll give him credit after the last game,
and we certainly did critique a bunch of the post
(07:17):
game sound where everybody seemed resigned to yell one, two
three can kun. At some point it was like it
was coded, like you had to go through. It's like,
all right, where did he actually say canon? Where did
he say it? It's there, I swear it's an invisible
aan kid, But look again, this is why, and not
to make it about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What happy Nicks eve again.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
By the way, it's been six minutes, but that series
has gotten all our attention because the games have been
just a little bit closer.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's not like all these games are really close. They've
just lasted a little bit close to the last two games.
But at least they give your trauma. But at least
they get trauma.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Was where PJ. Car Lissimo's son was gonna golf. This
is like as your night throw. You heard him tell
that story, and it's like the third night in a row,
because that's what you've got to stretch time. But even
when so that's what they've had to do in each
of these last two games. Hey, what's what did you
get off the menu? No, but he's read page four
the game factory menu.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Wow, there's a lot of pages. I'm just saying, like,
that's kind of where these five minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You're not even in the appetizers. Yet on page four
you're you're still in, Like, hey, here's food, food, drinks.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like that's you're you're still there.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Hey, you're actually say'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But no.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But look, that's why even in the big blowouts, there's
still stories and there's still hatred between the two teams.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They can't stand each other at least the hell out.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But we didn't even get that for the Minnesota and
Denver it's oh man, what are they gonna say?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And what are you gonn Anthony Edwards, Hey, I gotta
give yo Kich his flowers. He's great. Wait, what what
about you can't stand the guy you need to be? What?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What is that you'll get is more upset at the
m v P trophy then he's at vis iss what.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We get in the nicks and pages? I want to
it's gonna be like a big war and I'm gonna
have a.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mace and you're gonna have a sword, and you're gonna
have a big speared We're gonna fight and we're just
gonna be like Anchorman, and in this series, it's hey, wow,
these guys are great. Oh okay, g thanks a lot.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
He did say he was tired of Aaron Gordon the
other day.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
We did get that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
As for Jo Kiss You, you obliquely referenced it there
talking about getting the MVP trophy, saying, I don't understand
why people cry about this. I mean whatever, I let
give the trophy for my horses to play with. I
mean that was kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We'll have more on that story coming up, because there
is a lot to get to with in the Kodokic
m v P Trophy story. Because I think those comments
may cost him any future MVP.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I think he was already resigned to the fact that
he probably wasn't getting another one.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't think that's gonna happen for him. They were
reticent to give him the thirdie. I guess we'll give
it to We can't give it to SGA. He plays
for Ohoma City. What are we gonna do now?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
We screwed the guy last year. Give it to Luca.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I don't know, I title, give him a word, I
don't know, I guess, and now we're done with him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
They washed my hands in my vote with you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
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(10:29):
we can hold our breath, we can exhale. After a
loose ball, Anthony Edwards was down on the floor for
a good few minutes, laying face down and just kind
of writhing a little bit, not moving a lot. You
had the emergency personnel out on the floor looking at him.
Probably was just dinged up a little bit, because after
a few minutes he got up, just hit a couple
(10:51):
of free throws sixty seven forty two. But certainly it
looked a little weird there for a couple of minutes.
As we're wondering, okay, is he getting what what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Looking at him, wasn't moving a lot Like first I
thought he get knocked unconscious because his face is like
laying on the on the on the on the floor,
and it's like, what is what is happening here? But
in the end he's up, he's playing again. He just
said free throws. He's out and he looks to be fine.
Uh so this is all good news. We continue on
with this game.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's kind of like when you and I are here
for Monday, Thursday, wait, Friday or Tuesday night football.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Uh, whatever happens. We see stuff in.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Live and in living color and it's like, wow, that's
a big hit. That guy's down and then it takes
a second and they pop back up with the NBA.
How many times have we seen it? And certainly wish
say on anybody, I'm not even saying it. I know
you were going to go No, no, no, it doesn't
need to be said.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
America knows where we're gonna come out here.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
No, no, no, it's where mine was.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Anthony Davis whenever he senses he might be injured, he
runs off the court.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
He always always run. You know, I'm going right off
the court. Together with that larger point was just I
recognize in general.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You're feeling you're in your fields about a D. I
get that, but it's it's become commonplace in the NBA.
I'm taking my minute. It's like soccer has come to
the NBA in terms of injuries and guys when they
go to the court.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They lay there for a minute or two. I'm not
saying anything out, but he was. I don't know, but
the thing is he was laying Here's why I knew.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I said, Okay, he's he's he's got to feel it,
he's got to need it. Needs a couple of minutes,
because he was laying in a very uncomfortable position. Where
if you're gonna be down and you're gonna find a
way to lay in a comfortable position, you're not gonna lay.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To make comfortable position the comfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
How is laying with your face down buried into the
floor comfortable? Only if you're two years old? Can you
sleep like that? They can't sleep like that? Now, come on,
he's in his twenties. You can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You don't, No, you can't do it. Let's listen.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Michael Jordan slept like that after winning the championship.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know, that's banging his fist on the floor and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's one of my big pet peeves in movies is
when people wake up the positions they're sleeping, and that
they wake up from them, Like, who sleeps in that position?
Nobody sleeps with one arm behind their back and their
mouth all the way open, with their head hanging over
the bed.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nobody's big sleep. Nobody sleeps that way. Nobody every day?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Nobody.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Everybody sleeps like nobody sleeps that way?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No Frostburg, Who eats that way? David Household, this is
a mess?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Minnesota in control over Denver, eighty one fifty five, two
and a half to go in the third quarter. Looks
like we're headed to Game seven. Now say it looks
like sometime left which things happened. Yeah, yeah, but Denver.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Might hit a shot, might get a rebound. Yeah, but
this is a yeah, this is a twenty four point league.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Wow, this is the crew where back in Game two,
Minnesota was just beating the crap of the Denver players.
Yeah yeah, and when Jamal Murray started to lose his
mind and all of that stuff. So I'm telling you, man,
Scott Foster is like a fireman in the playoffs, like
he's he's got all right, the call could come at
any time.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The guy we got series out here that need to
go a certain way. I am.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I'm ready for that phone call, whatever it is, whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Wow, that one's not him tonight. No, he's there.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I always liked the you know, when he gets to
the microphone and has to do the review, he is
not going to cheat you on word count.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I bet you. I bet you.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He's kind of like in the beginning of Breaking Bed
when Walter had the two phones and he kept one
secret from Skyler and they she found out when he
was in the hospital getting surgery and she goes, oh,
where's your phone?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He says which one? Like I feel it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Scott Foster he has his phone and then he's got
the Adam Silver phone and he like I would walk
around if I was single walking go you see this
is my cell phone. Yeah that's great, but you see
what this phone is. With this phone, I can change
the world with this. It's all bedazzled or is it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Or is it like in uh Indiana Jones and you
know the Last Crusade where it's it's the no, the
simple Carpenter's cutlip phone. It's a nick logo on it. Yeah, no, no,
that's not that's the song. So it's this phone clip
phone that looks like it's been beaten. The hell that
phone with a nick logo on it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And this phone rings, it glows phone rings.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You just wait, I gotta talk into the right phone.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Uh so, you know, but I remember he's always there
break last in case emergency. But here we are likely
headed to Game seven again. A minute to go on
the third, eighty three fifty seven. It's been all Minnesota
from the jump in this game now eighty six fifty seven.
I have a feeling we're gonna see maybe Alex English
play in the fourth quarter a little bit Ooh clear
the bench, let's get who do we get? But Caitlin
(17:10):
Clark had her home debut tonight for the Indiana fever.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes she did.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And TJ I got a fever and the only prescription
is a few days off so they stop losing games Liberty,
the New York Liberty, who's one of the top teams
the WNBA. Again, Indiana opening up against two of the
best teams in the WNBA. They don't just lose, they
lose like this game, one oh two to sixty six
(17:37):
Brianna Stewart thirty one points and ten rebounds. Caitlin Clark's
home debut not completely terrible. She scored nine points. She
only turned the ball over three times, so that's a
big and protty good.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
She was nine points, six assists, seven rebounds, two out
of eight from the four, five personal fouls.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
One of seven from five point range.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So it's not a great debut. It's not a great
first couple of games. But they're fun. These games are fine.
Caitlyn Clark getting used to the w NBA. Yes, it's
going to happen. She had two preseason games, right, the
WNBA has no preseason. You play two games, we're getting
ready to go. It's like the NFL, let's go. But
but she's fine. The game's not too big for her,
and and she's getting to handle the ball. The one
(18:20):
thing I will say is, boy, some of these foul
calls if you're like every time she sticks that hand in.
It's a whistle no matter what. And you know sometimes
I think, ah, did you really now some foul?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
She hearned?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She and it's it's their stupid fouls. Like what are
you doing? You know watching her tonight, Like, okay, you
know that that's a ridiculous play. You saw her get
mad first time. Kaitlyn Clark is screaming at the ref
didn't like a couple of cars.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Man. I mean, you can go back and find a
little supper film from the Yeah you get first game.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you got her yelling at the refs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And I feel like, you know, she sticks her hand
in any good a foul, so a little bit with
the tiki tak fouls continuing again, that's something she'll get
used to.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But it's also the thing you like.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I mean, you've coached your your daughter's soccer team, you
coach softball.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
As always, they're consistent.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Right, if we're gonna call tiki tag little reach in balls,
then let's let's make sure we're doing this. Yeah, and
let's make it a whistle fast and make it all
about you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If that's what they want to do. Let's just agree
that this game is gonna be about.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You miss this game tonight. Sure, otherwise let them play.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now again, you're gonna see a lot of Diana Tarassi
was right, Yes, of course there always is a welcome
to the NBA, welcome to the NFL, welcome to the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
But that I think was everybody took it as the
big am in his big bad Guyana Tarazzi saying, well,
Blanke you rook.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, it was like, no, it is a step up
in class. Yeah, no, it happen.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I mean there was a reality kind of moment of hey,
it's it's a different league.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We'll see how it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, that's that's absolutely fine. And look and there there's
two takeaways from this It's too big to understand about
Caitlin Clark and and this early part by why is
she not scoring thirty one points? Why are team not
winning things? First is oh, by the way, how quickly
have we gone to? WNBA? Games are nightly highlights and
nightly staples of talking about them, whether it's Caitlin Clark,
(20:09):
whether it's Angel Reese, whether it's Kelsey Plumb who now,
hey make room with the table for Kelsey Plum.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Uh you know, you see her endorsement deals. Yeah, you're
seeing new stars coming out. Man, Darren Waller's an idiot.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, Darren pers jesus, he's just been getting tagged all
over social media.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You're forty eight.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But look, you have now seen the Caitlin Clark effect.
Now where WNBA games are nightly highlights, they're nightly stories.
Their stuff we pay attention to. They have sudden relevance
all because Caitlin Clark is in the league. And it's
great that now we're opening up and talking about other players.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Angel Reese's debut was a big deal and she was fine.
Kelsey Plum's a huge star and she's a starting with deal.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Cara got a bunch of run on the local news
and exact last night. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's awesome that that's the case, because like I told you,
she was going to have a man, Chick and Larry
like effect on the w n B A and here
we are. The w NBA has now gotten Now they
said next week they're gonna have charter flights for everybody.
It's taken care of. And now you're part of the
every night highlight in sports. Right, it's a great, great time.
She's already having that effect. So that's the first takeaway.
(21:18):
The second one is this, you want to know why
reason no one's talking about Caitlin Clark's not scoring thirty
teams not winning.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
There's just one problem. There's just there's just one problem,
because I have problem. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So you're gonna nail it down to one thing. There's
just one reason. There's just one Leason. You're going all
curly one thing.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yes, there's just let's go Jack Palin.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What's that one thing? I don't know, but curly new
there's only one thing, one one thing. You're gonna nail
it down to brass tax right here.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
One thing. There's only is only one thing that that
that's really like the island. There can be only one, only.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One, only one. You got and you cut somebody's head
off to be the next. So you cut somebody's head off,
you become the next Highland. Well then you have the quickening,
so you get all their power. Okay, all right, good, okay.
So it's kind of like in time when you do
the when you do the wrestle Timberlake. Okay, I just
want to love your baby.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
There's only one thing justin Timberlake didn't have songs an
original concept by queen.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I just want to love your baby.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
No, that's how he sounds. It's not tim Timberlake sounds.
I'm saying it was good, but go ahead, it's amazing.
I'm in this space with you. Yeah, do that thing
didn't work. Let's go. There's only one thing. One thing.
There's one thing behind this case, one vision.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
There's one moment that no one is talking about, and
it's it's something that you're not gonna say, you're gonna go.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
It's very element I mean, you're saying that this is
the explain it to me like I'm a five year
old you on a moment.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You are not gonna walk away from this and saying oh,
well no, no, no, no, okay, this is this is
not three body problems where you have to figure out
what is what what's going on? I understand with forces
and gravitational pulls and when are the aliens coming? It's
very very simple. All right, there's one problem, break it down.
Come on now, the Indiana fever. Yeah, stink, that's the problem.
(23:07):
Well they stink, right.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
They played the number two and three teams from last season, right,
The aces were number one, the Ace of Spades, and
then you had the Sun and and now the Liberty.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So yeah, they stink. And I'm not saying they stink
because wow, they're underachieving. No, this is a team that stinks.
The reason why they had the number one pick in
the w NBA draft. And yes, Caitlin Clark is a
transformative player, but this is the first two games and
you're playing two of the best teams in the league
with established superstar players like Stuart and i Escu. I mean,
(23:45):
these are star players. Your team stinks. I mean, it's
just a case that's not I mean, it's not a
shot at anybody.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
It's just true.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Stuart, former guest of the show, had tonight, I Meani
the fever. Just not good. They're not no good.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I mean, and even back to back years where you
get bring in a Leah Boston who was fantastic, we
watched her college career, and now you add Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, that's two. Yeah, you need a little bit
more and it takes a little bit of time. But
that's the main issue is that, Hey, okay, it's like,
look think about this. Wemby shows up with San Antonio. Oh,
Wenby Wenby Wenby Wenby was unbelievable. Right Rookie of the Year,
he was unanimous. This guy within By this time next
year will be saying he's one of the top three
(24:29):
players in the league. And it's not it's not even
gonna be a debate, that's how good he is. But
the Spurs nineteen, well they won as many games as
they did. I mean to earn the rights to get him.
There's only one problem with Wemby. One problem the Spurs sting.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's the problem. That's what happens. The starting lineup for
the Fever. They scored forty points. They were outscored thirty
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Look watching this game, you can see, Okay, one team
is clearly at a higher level and this team is
figuring it out. And when you're not good, it's harder
to find space to get shots because there's nobody. Hey,
we have to worry about here. We got to play
the defense got to be a little sag a little bit.
It's not like, hey, Caitlin Clark is the best player
on IOWA and and you're playing teams that are about
(25:22):
as good as you and she's still gonna find a
way to get open and have screen set for it
everything else. It's quite different in the pros when hey,
there's a reason why we've won all these games. This
is not We just don't let you run around and
take shots like this. So as the fever get a
little bit better, yeah, you're gonna see more space on
the floor. For Caitlyn Clark, she's already cut down on
the turnovers in a big way after her first game.
(25:43):
She's learning, she's picking it up. It's fine, but understand
that the fever aren't good. They're not gonna win a
lot of games. And really it's not anything that's abnormal
in basketball. A team that picks first in the lottery
generally doesn't just jump to now, we're gonna win the
whole league.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Now, schedule, you get a little bit of h luck
with the ping pong balls to where a team that's
kind of just inside of the lottery fourteen jumps all the.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Way to one that doesn't happen very often normally.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
It is, and I'm not gonna say it's you know,
an Ocean's eleven scheme where they're waiting down.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
A ball, I drop and it just stays on the ground,
ping pong ball and suddenly they're they're injecting it with
the land the Bobby go on.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You've seen THELLS doesn't pop up? What else is popping
that one's just kind of rolling around the Hey, there
it is Indiana fever number one. Overall. There you have it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But it just the idea that you're gonna make a
huge jump in the NFL. Yeah, we get because of
the idea of parody, the amount of movement in free
agency and the draft, all of it comes together to
where we get worse to first within divisions. Right, almost
every year we get a handful of teams that have
the opportunity, which leaves hope for you know, the Bears
(27:02):
and the Jets and whatever else that they could rise up.
But it's it's not as easy in these other sports,
and especially you know when you're on the learning curve. Right,
Boston's in year two, she's got her sea legs. And
for Caitlyn Clark, I mean, you're gonna get everybody's best punch.
And the first two rounds were against two of the
(27:23):
best three teams returning from a year now, it's good continuity.
You're also trying to navigate and it's not excuse making.
You're you're just going reasons versus excuses. And it's been
bad basketball, right, I mean, Caitlyn Clark has not played well.
You can't excuse it altogether. But it's a learning curve.
What's gonna get me in foul trouble? Back to back game,
(27:44):
she's in foul trouble. Ergo you know, you're not as
aggressive on defense and even on offense. All those sets
kind of go away that you're expecting to have that
same kind of Can.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You get to the hoop?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Can you go to the hoop as strong knowing that
your next file is your I mean it's look, it's
it's it's all part of it. It's all, it's all
part of it. But mainly, just understand that even when
you're transformative, Wemby couldn't get the Spurs twenty wins. I mean,
Wemby couldn't do it. And we certainly saw some games.
I mean remember his debut, how bad that was? Oh yeah,
(28:18):
it was passing too much. Oh now it's all okay,
Now he's gonna be east.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
And then he started you know, hitting three point shots
and and showed the acumen and on both ends of
the court. But it took time. And for Caitlin Clark,
the trust has to be there. Angel Rees had a
nice debut.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
They lost. Cameron Brink had a nice debut. Like oh
that Like they'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Like as a class, they're gonna be scrutinized with every
outing and who shows up to film themselves for reality
shows when they're on the court. But look, it's fun
to see more breadth of coverage. I know my daughters
certainly have appreciated it this first week of the w
NBA season.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Twitter, and how about a Fresco Mike has swallowing down
the Jason Smith Show with mom my best friend Mike Carmon. Now,
you know how Chris Berman would announce Caitlin Clark and
the Fever losing their game tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You know Berman would do it, Okay, he would say, and.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
TJ, it's Indiana, not Cincinnati, but it's over. Johnny Fever
lose once again, TJ, you got a Johnny Fever and
nicely done, doctor Johnny Fever.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Very nice, Thank you very much. To Happy birthday, Howards.
Oh it was oh happy. I don't know birthday.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You can't stop talking? Got it because I got a
great boomer impression. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Does he know that?
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't know. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I I always a couple of people I talked to
an ESPN. I think he does. I think he knows
a little bit on the show ten years dude, because
it's it's ten o'clock on the on the he's in
his sixties.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He's probably in bed. He lives in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He doesn't host Baseball Tonight anymore, you know, on the
West Coast, not staying up. Did he move?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know? How do you know?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
More?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But you say, oh, you know all day? How do
you know where he lives? How do you know where
he lives? It's hey, what's the score of that Dodger game? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay? Uh? Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Speaking of the Dodger game against Cincinnati, it is show
heo Tani bobblehead night at Chavez Ravine. Already Otani bobbleheads
from the game have hit eBay. Wait, do we tell
you what the prices are for him? This is some
(30:39):
kind of story coming up next right here, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
In game betting right now, I think if you're Denver,
you're adding forty.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You think that's about right? Oh, I don't know. Let
me pull it up.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Minnesota leads Denver right now one ten to sixty three
with five minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Denver
may not break seventy in this game. We are headed
to Game seven back in Denver. It has been all
Minnesota from the jump. In this game.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well on Bovada they had gotten up to plus forty
one and a half.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It is no longer available for wagers. Oh really, yeah,
they took it away. Numbers are too high. We're over forty. Man,
we can't do it. I'm curious as to you know,
what the uh what the deal was there?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So again, we'll have more breaking down the NBA playoffs
on the way. We got Rick Buker stopping by to
talk about him with us tonight ahead of the Knicks
game six tomorrow. Nixon six Nix, is you know it's
only a two point line, yeah, going into the game,
But tonight is also bobblehead Night. Shoho Tani Bobblehead Night
(31:57):
at Dodger State. One of two Dodgers trail the Red
right now two to nothing in the second inning. Normally
when a Dodger game starts, there's a lot of empty
seats because look, Dodger game has always been late riving
crowd from work.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You see it.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
By the time you get to the third inning, the
stands are filled. Stands were filled from the beginning of
this one because it was Otani Bobblehead Night. Forty thousand bobbleheads. First,
forty thousand people through the gates got an Otani bobblehead. Already,
there's some on eBay. And now here's the next part
of the story of the forty thousand bobbleheads. Seventeen hundred,
(32:33):
not seventeen thousand. Seventeen hundred of them were of Otani
in a gray away jersey. The rest of all Otanian
in a home jersey. So if you got one of those,
you know, they just hand him out, hand them out,
hand them out. If you get one of those in
a gray jersey, obviously, They're worth way more money than
the Otani bobblehead in a Dodger's white home jersey. And
(32:57):
as you told me, a gray one has already hit
eBay and been.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Sold, already sold in seven fifteen tonight.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Because I remember the days, as you know, certainly, I
lived up in the Bay Area, and when the Oakland
A's were at their their hottest, people would show up
get the bobbleheads, and then they'd be on eBay immediately
thereafter because they'd have to go take you know, the
pictures and load it and whatever, saying hey, I've got
it in hand. Well now you can do that on
your phone, so you don't even have to get to
(33:28):
your seat. Uh, twelve hundred and forty nine dollars on
a buy it now at seven fifteen.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
The standard white uniform home issue is going anywhere from
one fifty five, and I've seen as high as two fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That sounds about right. That sounds about forty thou so
usually gonna be a lot of That's a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Usually bobbleheads they go for between when you get them,
they get resold. The resale valves around thirty bucks thirty five.
The ref is a pretty good one to get get
up to fifty. But here's Otiani. Look, they had Otani
pillow night in Anaheim, and most of the times, all
of a sudden, guys going through with multiple tickets to
get as many as.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
They get that giant bag.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, no, I mean so the same thing here.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I have no doubt that the first people through the
gates immediately well ride out the gate and tried to
get back in to see if they can get a
second and maybe hit the lottery with the gray uniform.
Now Mary Heart's at the game. Do you think she
has a Grayotanni bibblehead? Do you think they made sure
she got one?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You going Illuminati and celebrity.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Hey, wait a minute, Mary, we got hey celebrity celebrating
a birthday today include you because you get the gray
bobble in youngratulations.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
That's a special one BEP birthday to yea half be birthday.
And she's just dancing around holding up the babble in
and then they go, no, Mary, we need to escort
you to your car.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You need to leave the game. But I'm here to
watch the game. No, you have a Grayotanni babble and
you need to leave the game.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Right away, valuable Marchian for you, and no that is
that is some next level stuff. Wondering if there is
you know, some kind of chaos that will ensue, because
we've seen people battle in the stands for less, that's
for sure. Sure, sure, But the packaging is really cool
as well. I mean, not that that's the selling point
to it, but some anime imagery and whatever the box
(35:18):
says in a cool font whatever. I mean, it's actually
very attractive package you. Normally it used to be in
the just plain white with the styrofoat holder's where you
did actually see.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What the bobblehead was.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
This one, I mean you still have to open it
to see whether you got the special bobblehead, but there's
at least packaging is nice as opposed to here.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We saved every dime we could in getting this to you.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Happy birthday, your obsessive big birthday.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Do you think any of the people in the media
throng were able to get the rare bobblehead?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you think Bob going called Mary Hart and today
get me one of the great ones to get me
a gray one? Hat be birthday too? Yeah? Hat the
birthday too? Yeah, don't I don't know the do they
talk outside of work?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I gotta think they do. I don't know what else
are they doing. We're gonna talk and then I'm gonna
watch the dodge again. Maybe what's gonna happen. Now, let
me ask you this, miss mister uh, mister Illuminati of
of merchandise and memorabilia. So right now, it looks like
you can get this is the twelve hundred dollars, the
is the going price? Is this the nader of the
(36:30):
market or do you think as time goes on you
can get more money for these Otani bobbleheads.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Well, I would say this, and looking at it now
you actually can see what you got as antity. So
now we have to question the security guards and people
that are, you know, administrating this process because you know,
you might shuffle some of the greatest to the back
because he used to just be a blind thing. But yeah,
(36:59):
forty thousand, the base one's gonna come down because there's gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Be a lot of e Well you're talking about forty three.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
But if you sif people sell a bunch of these
seventeen and there turns out at the end to be
eight or nine hundred left.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, the great one.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
The market will dry up because a lot of them
will go into personal collections. Sure, so only maybe a
third of that at most really circulate when it's all
said and done. So yeah, I mean there's long term
staying power for this. So how far beyond the twelve hundred, like.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Twenty five hundred? You might double maybe down the line?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Sound So someone gets desperate and says I need one
for my collection, I could sell it now for twelve hundred,
or if I want to hold on to it for.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
TBA, I could get twenty five potentially.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Okay, all right, potentially, but I would take the twelve
hundred run, let the market figure it out, and then
go find something else to invest in.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Happy Birthday too, uh.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
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coming up next. Yeah, we have to get into what's
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
Livenatirack dot Com Studios, where only Game of the night. Thankfully,
if you had the Nuggets getting forty four, oh you
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were so close, te Wolves win it one fifteen to
seventy this series now tied at three games apiece, heading
back to Denver for Game seven. So far this series,
Game one was Minnesota by seven. Game two is Minnesota
by twenty six, Game three, Denver by twenty seven. Game four,
Denver by eight, Game five, Denver by fifteen, Game six,
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Minnesota by forty five. How are these teams taking turns
and blowouts like this? It doesn't seem possible yet here
we are. But this is what I mean when I
say the NBA's got a playoff problem.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Yeah, but we got a game seven. Maybe let's go
joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
He's got new walk up music now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Fox Sports one, NBA insider host of the On the
Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is
at Rick Buker. Go, Rick Bucher, Go, Rick Bucher, Go
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Buden h having yep?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Getting this scene back in the bottle? Is there? Okay?
All right? I just thought I figured there was a
certain amount of a certain amount of jealousy because the
the Knicks, for the most part, don't have these kind
of blowout games. I know they're Game five. They finally
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put one of those one of those together. But their
standard is we're gonna do We're gonna we're gonna grind
this to the end because that's who they are. So uh, nonetheless,
uh thank you for the for the walcome well.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Because here's the thing, Rick, is that Nicks Pacers used
to be the norm in the NBA playoff series were
like this. They were contentious. Yes there were blogs, but
there was still each team wants to beat the brains
out of the other one. And as much as you
want to say Rick Carlisle is crying or he isn't,
I know how bad he wants to win this series.
But I look at the NBA playoff and I go,
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they have a real problem with the number of stars
that continue to not play. And you wonder why a
guy like Donovan Mitchell's not playing the last two games.
Over fifty players have missed games so far. And when
the NBA puts their best and the best out here
and every game is a blowout, and sometimes it's a
twenty five point blow out swing from Game two to
Game three, I say this is an issue for the NBA.
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This is why the NFL has come after Christmas Day,
because you want to be able to say, hey, here's
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
This is the best of what we have. And most
of the time it's games where hey, I can just
check in on this and if it's close, I'll watch it.
Like every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, I mean it's it's the combination of things, but
the league has created it. Some of it is just
the three point shot has become such a huge part
of it. And for example, in the Nuggets game tonight,
I mean, they had wide open shots, they simply missed them.
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And going seven to thirty six is going to lead
to not only miss shots, but but long rebounds, which
are fast breaks going the other way. And then the
general lack of physicality or the inconsistency there. If you're
getting a whistle, if you're getting a good whistle and
you're and you're their aggressive aggressor and you're making threes,
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these things can get out of out of line in
a hurry, and generally the attempt to come back. What's
the attempt when you when you get down by twenty,
let's shoot some more three And so it compounds the
problem if you're not making them leads, the more run
out leads, the more quick. I will say if I
was Minnesota, I might like I might have had like
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a five pass run the clock down rule, because making
it forty five embarrassing the defending champions going into a
Game seven. I'm not sure that that's the right recipe
for I'm just you know, and watching the Denver bench,
watching Yokis and those guys were taking it all in
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and there was nothing they could do about it this game.
But I would expect that they're going to do something
about it in Game seven.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Well, you know, their teammates showed up and put up
nine points in the fourth quarter, so they really gave.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It back to him.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Rig. The most interesting thing the Nuggets did today was
well former coach George carl just shaking his fist and
telling everybody to get off his lawn about all sorts
of NBA related product. That was more interesting than anything
I saw on the court.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
He had another he had another Twitter.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's going after Laker fans, going
after effort, going you name it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
He's got it. So it's it's all fun.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
That's that's George. That's just George. I mean, it's it's
on Twitter. Anybody who knew him in the league. That
was him all the time. Like, it's not a personality
change by any stress of the event.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Today, Well, let's let's let's I'll und one for you.
Speaker 7 (43:30):
What's that.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
I'll read one for you and you can jump off
on George for this one because we'll get back into
the remaining teams alive. I'll give the Lakers coaching search
committee a free advice today. Lebron isn't a superstar anymore
and a D will never be one.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
S George coming with both barrels. Wow, I mean he's right,
so and I actually I mean he it's that's violent.
That's just committing violentce on Twitter. But it is at
the heart of it. It is the issue that the
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Lakers are facing in terms of hiring a coach. I
think there's this idea that if they get the right coach,
their championship can contenders. Again, they don't have a championship roster.
So and at the same time, you have veterans like
Lebron and a D who want a coach that is
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going to coach them like they're playing for a championship.
So you're not going to get a rebuilding guy. So
you're really caught at cross purposes. I mean, I wouldn't
say it exactly the way George said it, but I
get his point and I agree with it. It's it's
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in fact, one of the stories that I'm working on
right now is you know how you rank the Lakers job?
And I hate to give away some of what I
already have, but like one of the one of the
sources that I talked to executives that it's still a
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great job because you're when you get fired, you can
say I was a Lakers head coach and no one
is going to blame you. They're just going to figure
that's the circumstances of being a part of that organization
at this point, and so that's kind of that's that's
that's where we are at this point. So they can
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hire whoever they want, and uh, it's probably not going
to work, and when it doesn't, it's not going to
be looked at as the coach's fault.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Well that's the thing where because I look at it
and go, I don't think it matters. I mean, who
out there outside of reuniting with Frank Vogel, who I
know would make them better defensively, and if you can't
improve and make deals. Improving defensively is something you really
can can help you, you know, in your one loss record,
because we know it works. I think they should get
to other and say, hey, whatever happened is in the past,
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has worked before, won a title, let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I mean, I don't know they likes are are are
lebron and ad going to listen to.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
JJ Reddick if he comes and he tells me, are
they going to listen to Kenny Atkinson? Or are they
just going to go do what they've been doing for
the last few years. That's kind of what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah, I mean, no, it's it's I'll let me put
it this way. I believe there's a way of if
you come in and you have a plan and it
and it works flawlessly, then I think those guys will listen.
But this is the problem is that if you're talking
about JJ Reddick and you're talking about Kenny Atkinson or
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anybody coming in, the chances that it's going to work
flawlessly right off the jump, Uh is just not real realistic.
And and so that's the challenge. And the second that
it doesn't work, and no, they're not they're not going
to listen anymore. But and that's not just with them,
that's what the NBA players in general like. You lose
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your credibility. You can lose your credibility in a heartbeat,
especially if you're a coach who doesn't have a track record.
And I'm not mad at your idea about bringing bringing
Frank Vogel back. In theory, it'll never happen, because this
is one of the other things that is a challenge
when it comes to hiring a Lakers coach is that
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it's got to have disass it's got to have like
a certain amount of splash. And because Darvin had been
there and he'd been on the pistons, you could dress
it up in a way to make it look like
that it was a shrewd pick and and it was sexy.
But again, this is where the Lakers find themselves in
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terms of like Darvin Ham becomes the sexy, sexy pick.
And they've they've they've they've slow played this once again,
so it's not like they're getting the cream of the cross.
And and and this may be this may be the
careeratest indication of where the Lakers are is that Mike
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Gutenholzer wasn't a waiting around to see if he could
get the Lakers job. He grabbed the Phoenix job. And
so the idea that the Lakers are somehow in a
better position or are a better team the coach at
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this stage than the Phoenix Suns, who by all accounts,
the feeling is is like that's a flawed roster. Nobody
talks about the Lakers being the flawed roster like and
yet like Booterholds had told you, it's more flawed than
the Phoenix Sun. I'll take my chances over here.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I dig that response.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Of all the jobs in the NBA that are available,
the Lakers job, it's one of them, all right? Which
team is more likely to close out in Game six?
The Mavericks or this guy's Nicks?
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Oh would go, I'm going to go with both of
them closing out. I mean, or who's who's more likely?
I I feel like they both understand what it is
that they that they need to do and and are
in position to do it. Uh, Indiana just is not
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playing with the the effort or the energy necessary. And
UH and the Dallas Mavericks have have have figured things
out with with Oklahoma City. I mean essentially, it's it's
Shay Gilgess Alexander and you can let him get what
he what he wants. The supporting cast. To me, everybody
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made a big deal out of Luka Dotsi's and the
triple double. What made them great is that Luca didn't
try to do everything himself, and the supporting casts were
the huge difference, and I don't think we looked at
that theories quite that way. I think if you ask
somebody going in this series who had the better complimentary players,
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I think most people would have gone with uh, with
the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Dallas Mavericks. Complimentary players
to me, were the huge difference in that pivotal Game five.
They all came, they all delivered, and I would expect
that you're going to see the same thing back on
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their home floor in Game six.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Lastly, does does your predictions change if Scott Foster is
assigned to either of those games?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (50:36):
Normally that would be Yes, potentially, But I mean for
the most part, Scott's been kind of quiet this this playoff.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yes, he's had an underachieving playoffs so far. Really, he's
not been great.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, you know what.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
You know, what's funny is like Datcics was giving the
referee such a hard time in game four. I mean
he was questioning every single call. And the great distinction
was in game five he didn't at all like he
was he was complimenting them. He was he was like
a good call, raising call for a falie, raising his hand.
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He was going over and talking to guys in between,
like eight, uh, is there a good place to eat
dinner in Oklahoma City? Like but you, I mean it
was it was such a departure. But I was thinking,
as I'm watching game four, he's giving them hell. And
meanwhile he's got more turnovers than than shots made. He
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misses a critical free throw at the end, like he
had a he had a terrible game. I just wish
the referees had had started like like given him flack
for his game, Like as he's running back down correct
this in another three, like, referees, what the hell is that?
What are you doing? Like why are you taking that
pack the ball?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Luca?
Speaker 7 (51:55):
What I would have given for that, because it was marriage.
If he was giving them the hell about their performance,
he could have given it right back to him. Hey, buddy,
you're not exactly what good running the grade out here yourself.
So I don't want to hear about me missing any calls. Okay,
you're missing shock.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You don't even better as if the rest would say,
so heka, how comes sometimes down the floor you look awesome,
and then sometimes down the floor you're limping when you
get beat defensively and it looks like you can't really
do anything. But yet the next time down the floor,
you're getting some kind of slide step three and you
look great.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
How come that is, Luca? Why is that?
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all of that, but look you turn
it down and I and I hope he I hope
he learned something, because it really it really made a difference,
you know, his You can't tell me that when he's
constantly yapping and bickering and chewing on the referees and
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not getting back on defense because of it, or you know,
just always looking for calls, you can't tell me that
that doesn't affect the team at large. And that part
of what had all of them locked in was the
fact that he just went out and played basketball, and
so everybody else did too. And I would fully expect
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that you're going to see the same thing. I would
hope that you're going to see the same thing in
game six. So you know, one other thing I will
tell you one of the other pieces that I'm doing
working on is about the about Tom Thibodeau's approach because
this is what I absolutely love. So he has to
go into his bench, right, and he finds out, oh,
(53:38):
I got some guys who can play here. I would, right,
but this is what I love. So he has to
go into his bench and he still only plays.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Six and a half.
Speaker 7 (53:58):
Tim. Tom said, it is not changing for anybody under
any circumstances. I don't care who have to play. I'm
only playing six and a half guys, okays, I don't
care who they are.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out Beyond the Ball podcast again what he's working on.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
As far as Lakers head coaching, Tom Thibodeau, uh Rick
is always buddy.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Appreciate it, man. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
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