Barista Dean

Dean and Caelynn are back from the iHeartRadio Music Awards and have all the backstage tea! Find out who they ran into on the yellow carpet and who secretly stole Dean’s heart. 

Jared gets real about the challenges of running his own coffee shop and some plans might be in motion to see Dean whipping up some lattes behind the counter!

Plus, find out why Dean expects to live to be 140 years old!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Suckers. I'm Kiln Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and
I'm Jared Habn.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
An iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello everybody, Welcome to an all new episode of Suckers.
This is Dean Bell, joined by Kaylan and Jared. Per usual,
we just got back from the iHeartRadio Awards and we.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Had an absolute last, very fantastic.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I always dread going to things like this, but I
actually had a good time this time for the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, I feel like you say that a lot, and
you usually do have a really good time if you
have friends there. You had been there.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I did have been there. I just could. I could
go on the ear with Ben, I could go to
I could go to a foot acupuncture class, and I
was still a good time. I don't even know what
I would actually really not enjoy, but yeah, I know
we had a good time.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
We saw so many people perform. We saw Share, Jennifer Hudson,
Beyonce came out on stage. She didn't perform, but she
came out on stage. We saw Green Day, just Timberlake.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, it was a stacked line of Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It was crazy. Ludacris.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ludacris was so good jelly Roll was good.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Tate McCrae was good.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Tate mccree's like so gen Z. She was good, but
she's like not someone that I'm super excited to see.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
She was good, but she was good. She had a
cool outfit. I like the boots she was in. Cameo
bright orange was the exact opposite of camera cameo and orange. No,
there was not a lick of camo on the stage
when she was performing because hives orange and all of
her dancers were in Highve's orange. But she crushed it.
Who else there? I feel like we're missing someone.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was your favorite because there were so many good ones.
I think share for me.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I think it was cool to see share. She was
lip syncing.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No she wasn't. You were saying that, No she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I believe she was.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
She was.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
It was really Jennifer Hudson. That just blew me away.
Everyone was great, But the second Jay hud started singing
it like it, I like felt it in my body,
like it hit my the core of my body. I
don't know. She just had such a presence and her
voice was so amazing and she was just belting it out.
So I think she was probably my favorite. Luda was
really good, and Justin Timberlake of course was really good.

(02:07):
But they were all they were all pretty good. I
really liked it because whenever we go to stuff like this,
I feel like stuff kind of like drags on for
too long. But with all them, it was like two
songs abbreviated songs, and so it was kind of like
quick and light, and everything was kind of going by
really fast, and so I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, and everyone was great. I just sent in the
chat she wasn't camo.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, she just sent it in the chest.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
She was not.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
She was an orange in camo. She was wearing a
cameo jacket.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
There's nothing camo about this that you just sent me.
She's wearing orange Brazil with orange brazier black shorts.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Scroll down. That is a camo jacket.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's like silver. It's like listening.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
That is camo, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, from this from the where we were, it didn't
look camo to me, I guess because it's camouflage and
you can't see it. I've never heard of Taate.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
McCray, but you've heard her songs on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
She was pretty good. She was pretty good. Really unattractive
is what Ben kept saying. He's like, she's just not
attractive at all because she's very pretty. She's very pretty,
like stupidly pretty. Not as pretty as my wife obviously,
but you know, obviously it was funny too because she's
twenty and then every other performer was, you know, big

(03:23):
in the nineties. Yeah, and then we get this girl
who's twenty years old and hot on the scene. But
it was good. Taylor Swift was.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
There, No, she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Taylor Swift was there to accept her awards, but I
went to.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
The bathroom and then I got locked out until the
next commercial break in, so Dean's trying to convince me.
Taylor Swift came on stage and she wasn't because I
watched the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Accepted her awards and she was so grateful. I'm proud.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, Beyonce was there and that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Jar. Do you ever get a fomo for missing this
kind of stuff?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Only if there's it really depends on who's there. Obviously,
when you guys are there and Ben's there, if it's
a good crew going, then we always get a little
foam And yeah, I had a little fomo just from
the amount of star power that was there, Like Holy
justin Timberlake, Beyonce was there. I would see Jennifer Hudson.

(04:14):
I don't really know any Jennifer Hudson songs, but I
would love to hear her voice live. It's like if
you hear go God's voice, you know, there's just like
something about it.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
You're like, yeah, who.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
There are a lot of good voices in this world,
but then there are just voices that just are cannot
be replicated and you have to hear And I think
people like Jennifer Hudson Go Go's got a voice like that.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I think Goga is so underrated.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I know she's like one of the biggest pop stars
in the world, but I think that she should be
like Taylor Swift level, but she's not.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
She's had a weird like story arc I feel like
because there's always kind of a lot of like controversy
around her, even though she's never really done anything to
deserve it.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I feel like Lady Gaga is there controversy.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I just remember like a lot of stupid rumors about
her when we were younger.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, she also did like crazy stuff like she wore
dress made out of meat.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh well, that's not really enough to get.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Like address of raw steaks.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, that's interesting, but no, Jennifer Hudson didn't sing. She
sung a Share song. So what they announced Share is
like the icon of the year or something like that.
And they were like and performing SHARE's song, it's Jennifer Hudson,
and so we're like, oh man, we don't get to
hear it Share sing, but Jennifer Hudson's gonna crush it.
And she did amazing. And then after Jennifer Hudson finished
theare's first song, Share came on stage for the second song.

(05:32):
She was lip syncing, but she was.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
She wasn't And she's also in her seventies right, yes,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
By the way, sorry to interrupt you. I think I
came to a realization when they were going through like
the Share montage of her career. She's been performing for
seven decades, insane for fifty something years. And when they
went back it the math works out. Trust me, I
did it in my head. When they were going back
to Share like in her twenties and early thirties. I

(06:00):
was watching and I was like, oh my gosh, I
think I understand why Maria is so popular in the
Bachelor because.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
She's like share.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Maria gives me young Share vibes, I think is what
it is. Something about the physically, yeah, something about the face,
and something about maybe like the confidence. I don't know
what it is, but I was like, maybe that's why
everyone has such a fascination with Maria because they kind
of have share vibes from her too, whether they realize
it or not, you know, but shares obviously a huge

(06:27):
icon for a reason, and so maybe anyone with that
same type of.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Style as I don't think they're like anything like but well.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Of course not shares now seventy five years ago. No
young young Share, no young Share. I don't know. It
was just a thought, a passing thought that I had,
and it kind of explained it to me why people
would be so invested in Maria because they might.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah. Also, on reality TV, we spent probably like five
hours of The Iheartwards with Rachel Evis. So Rachel did
something really horrible. We all know that she knows that
she did something really bad, but she didn't go back
on vander Pump rules. She Tom Is. Tom's on it
and he's getting to like redeem himself and people are

(07:06):
forgiving him, but nobody's forgiving her. And it's the classic
like we forgive the guy, but we don't forgive the
girl because we put women against each other and she
did something terrible. She like got treatment and has been
working on herself, and I think it's time to forgive.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, And while we're at it, are people not forgiving.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't think so. Maybe I don't think so. It's
also hard to because she's not on the show, so
she doesn't really get to like tell her side of things.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know, why is she not on the show?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
She decided not to and I think it was so
smart for her not to do it. But then Tom's
on it and Tom like people are shooting on Tom
but also forgiving Tom, and I just feel bad for
the girl.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Tom stinks. Also Arianna stinks. Yeah, Rachel, she's great. And
I've been saying this room of the get go, and
I'm so proud of myself. I remember once when we
first watched the reunion, we like went to a party together, right,
and I was defending Rachel a little bit. I mean,
obviously not her.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
She can't defend what she did right better actions.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
But like her follow up of it, like the accountability
she's taking and all that stuff. And you were like,
would you hit me in the arm? And you'd be
like stop, stop saying that. You shouldn't be saying that,
And I was like, I don't care. I have a
good feeling that I'm right, and it just it feels
good to be right.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, it's really cool to see someone take full ownership,
like I did something wrong, I screwed up. I'm going
to do everything I can to make it right. Tom
is doing the exact opposite. Tom is comparing himself to O. J.
Simpson and he won't take accountability.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Why is he comparing himself to OJ Simpson and thinking
that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
He compared scanned of vaut to OJ Simpson and George Floyd. Yeah,
and it was really really bad.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I haven't really seen anything talk about that besides
when we talked about it on your podcast.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, it kind of got brushed over, which is shocking.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's insane. And I was telling Ben this last night
or two nights ago, I guess when we were after
the concert on that stuff, and we were alway just
kind of sit around hanging out. I said, there's nothing
more appealing and person than someone that's a willing, willing
to take accountability. And I think Rachel did that and
is still doing it and is working on it, and
she's knows she's made a mistake. She's beat the first

(09:10):
one to admit it. You look at Tom not so
much obviously, you look at Ariana, who didn't really make
a mistake. I guess, so it's kind of hard to
rope her into that as well. But her behavior is
just like she's she's almost like she's almost like happy
that it happened to her, because she's like cashing in
on it. Is what I feel like.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
She is thriving, she's like doing better than she ever
would have if this didn't happen. And I haven't watch
last night's episode, but I got caught up before that,
and like Tom came up to her and was like, Hey,
just want to make sure you saw my email from
the lawyers, and then the stare that she gave him.
She like ignored him, acted like he doesn't exist, and
it's like at some point you need to move on,
you need to just like I just think Rachel's handling

(09:49):
this a lot better than Arian is.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Honestly, Yeah, again, I just still feel so proud of myself. Hey,
John never questioned my judgment again.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I also, Brittany Snow came out on her daddy recently,
and I think that is how you should respond if so,
if your partner has cheated on you. Her husband cheated
on her on reality television. She watched it and she's
handling it so well. She's like, yeah, they screwed up,
but also our relationship wasn't perfect and I wasn't perfect,
and she can own that even though he did something

(10:17):
awful and she did on her.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Anyways, that's our pop culture segment for the day. I
guess we're doing that Calen's corner.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I feel like I should chime in, maybe we should
talk about I do think this leads to a bigger
conversation just about relationships in general, and like I guess
human nature because we're so imperfect in life, but.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Not that we have to be perfect in relationships. But
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I just find it's interesting. I think we're all just flawed.
Like you guys are talking about Tom Sandfall and whatever
about that, but you were talking about Rachel.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Is it Raquel or Rachel Rachel. Now, you're not an idiot.
I know you know Rachel. Now you know as Raquel.
You know her as Raquel from the show, but she
now goes by Rachel. Yeah wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
It was so so she in like elementary school, there
are a bunch of Rachel's, so she decided to go
by Raquel to be different. And then when this came out,
everyone's like, oh, that's not even her real name, So
now she goes by Rachel.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I knew it.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I freaking I was like, so you're saying Rachel. I
was like, oh, I thought it was Raquel. But obviously
I'm wrong because I don't keep up with this stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
So anyway, so Rachel, Yeah, obviously what they did was wrong,
but I don't and it was good for TV. But
in terms of like general consensus, you talk about Britney
Snow So you're saying that her husband cheated on her.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
How long were they married for?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't know, maybe a couple of years. But he
her husband was on selling suns at oc and she
watched it and there was like some weird stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
So he's on reality TV.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, he stopped after that season because it was really
bad for him?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Why was it so so? He well, he cheated on
his she did on her on TV.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
They like he didn't sleep with someone on TV. But
there was like weird stuff going on, like this girl
sucked on his tongue and just weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I'd say that's a little weird.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, if a girl was sucking on your tongue, I
would be like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, and also if it happened a year ago and
then all of a sudden, you're just seeing it happen
on TV. What a flawed marriage that must have been.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, But the way she handled it, she was like,
I'm not going to talk crap about them. I'm not
going to give them any space or energy. I'm just
going to move on and move past this and also
own my part in it. She's like, you know, like
there were issues in our relationship or whatever, and why
can't Arianna do that? Just move on, just be like
there were issues, let's move on. Let me be a
nice human now.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Okay, further idiot, Arianna was Tom Sandoval's wife.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Girlfriend of like eight to ten years or so.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Okay, okay, got it, got it. See, I just need
the context. That's all I need.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I've been getting this context every week for the past
few months. Yes see, Dean gets it every day.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I gotta get it. On the podcast What did you
do this weekend?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Jared?

Speaker 4 (12:59):
And what we had ead? We went to my brother
in law's house. They had a big Easter egg hunt,
and it was fun seeing Dawson just run around with
my niece Nora.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's fun seeing those.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Two together because they're just so little and adorable that
like just seeing them run around and have no idea
what the hell is happening in the world. It was
a lot of fun. And he doesn't really fully understand
the concept of the egg hunt yet, Like he he
was grasping the idea of going after the eggs, getting
an egg and putting it in his basket, but he

(13:31):
also like would put one in his basket and then
drop his basket, or then he grabbed three or four
eggs and then he'd stop and he would be distracted
by something else. But that was nice. And so it
was at his It wasn't my brother in law's house,
it was his aunt's house, but it was his side
of the family. And then just been working we did.

(13:52):
I think I talked about it. We did the Bachelor finale,
We had a watch party at Audrey's, which was Banana Land.
It was so busy and crazy and so thank you
you If anybody's listening to this podcast were coming out
that evening. It was so busy but so much fun.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I had an Easter ecunt on on Easter you did? Yeah,
I went golfing, which is kind of like a crun
up version of an Easter egg hunt. Did you guys
get each other for anything for Easter?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
We didn't even get I don't even think that's the
correct answer. I don't even think we acknowledged Easter when
we were together, did we? We said, I don't even
think we did that.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yes we did, did we?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I just remember not realizing it was Easter until like noon,
and I was like, oh gosh, it's Easter, And I
was trying to think back back to, like my favorite
Easter is. Do you guys have any good Easter stories
from when you were kids? The only one I can
really think of for myself was we were on a
family vacation and steamboat and my mom used to always
hide baskets and she like still brought them to steamboat

(14:55):
with her or something like that. She used to hide
baskets around the house, so you would have to look
around all day until you find your basket.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
All day.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, you know, it depends how hard you hit it.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
My mom would hide them and we found them pretty quickly.
We have to find your basket and then you can
find the eggs. But you can't, oh, find the eggs
until you get your basket.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
We didn't have eggs though, It was just a basket
for us. And then in the basket would be like
all the goodies and stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
We would always do like the candy plastic eggs that
had candy inside, and then she would hard boil them
and we would do like dying them and stuff. And
there's one year that we lost like three hard boiled eggs.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Just into the ether, into the ether, just gone forever.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
We're like, once it starts smelling, we'll find them.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
We used to paint eggs occasionally. I don't think that
was like a tradition of ours, but like every so
often we would do it and that was fun. I
remember enjoying that quite a bit, but I don't I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Excited to do that with our kids.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, well, I mean it's still a long ways away,
because it doesn't sound like Dawson's even kind of at
that stage yet, right, No, not really, I mean it's
just we.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Anything we do with Dawson is truthfully for us right now,
not for him.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I mean he finds enjoyment it. But I could give
him a paper cup and he would find so much
enjoyment for that for like five minutes and then move
on to the other thing, like it's crazy. Ashley made
him this on Easter morning. It was a waffle and
she put bananas on it and made it. She made
it look like a bunny. I don't know, we ate it,

(16:19):
like she put all this hard work in. She took
pictures of it, obviously for the GRAM. You'll realize when
you put all this work in, it's like mostly for
you for your own enjoyment, and then.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's like nice.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
They enjoy it for like a second, he might if
you're lucky, you'll get like a whoa, and then that's that.
Then you're like okay, and then it was all worth it.
That half a second whoa was totally worth it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm excited for it. I feel like this Christmas, this
past Christmas, I realized holidays are for kids, and I
just feel like, like Christmas, you know, it was all
about the kids, and it's less about being an adult
on Christmas. And so I'm just excited to create these
traditions and have these holidays with the kids.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Now. Like how you're talking to me like I have
no idea what a holiday is?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, you were looking at me like you confused. So
I was like, do I need to explain.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
This to you? Well, I guess because this was the
first holiday that we spent Christmas is what you're referring
to with our two niece and nephew.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, because pre kids, it was like you drink, you
play games, you stay up all night.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Gosh, and that's all I want to do still, But
my brothers can't do that or yeah, and so.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I was like, okay, so Christmas is different now and
we I'm just excited for the kids.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
One brother's pretty good at staying up, but his baby's
way younger than the other brother. Yeah, he's like, ah,
the baby's six month old. It's fine, it can it
can be alone for an hour. And then the other
brother is like, crap, where's my baby? I gotta go
Exactly wherever she is.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, she's running around like crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
But yeah, I could see your point. Holidays are for
the kids, just like Saturdays are for the boys, and
like tricks are for kids as well. Yes, that's absolutely right. Yeah,
so Easter didn't celebrate anything, and I guess that's probably
what our feature is going to look like for a while.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well maybe in the fall, will have baby.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
We were talking like start, we were talking to Kathy
from Golden Bachelor. You want to tell uh what she
said to her? You?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, she's She said, I'm gonna tell you what I
just told your husband. Don't have kids until you can't breathe.
And I was like, what does that mean? She was
like just I don't know. She was like, just wait
as long as you can to have kids. And I
was like, I'm kind of ready now, you're not ready now,
and like six months, I'll be ready six months.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's funny because before it was like three years
and now it's down a six month.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's getting closer and closer.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
How many kids does she have?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Maybe she has it?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Maybe one, she has kids, I would say two to three.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Well, I hope is she's telling you to wait until
you can't breathe to have kids. She has personal experience.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, I was like that, I've never heard that one before.
But she's like, you're going to have them for the
rest of your life, no rush, And I get that.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
But she's she's an anomaly to me. She has so
much energy, so much a person of her age. I
feel like she dwarfs me in terms of energy. And
she's like talking to me and then she'll go to
Ben and she'll go to you, or she'll go to
Rachel and she'll carry that same energy from one conversation
to the next for the entire time that we're hanging
out with her. And I'm looking I'm just exhausted watching her.

(19:14):
And I can only hope to have that much energy
when I'm in my sixties. So I mean, good for her.
They just announced their podcasts, Susan and Kathy. They're making
their rounds. It seems like they're doing good. Susan's great
as well. She seems to be She seems to kind
of real Kathy in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, watching the show, you think it'd be the opposite.
You think that she would have more energy, but she's
like she's pretty calm.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Have you got any of those golden bachelorettes out
for your coffee shop?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Jared, No, A lot of them are probably still under contract.
I like to go after the people who are not
onto contract. Speaking of which, when do you guys want
to come out?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Spring or summer?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
We actually just got under contract yesterday, so we can't
be out.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
For a five years. I don't think congratulations, we're going
to the East Coast. You got to get over your fear.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, bro, just come and then you'll work. I'm telling you,
you'll come. You'll you'll go behind the counter. He will
just some coffee. Yeah, dude, I'll be I'm not joking.
I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on on like a Saturday.
Would you rather bartender? Would you rather be a barista?

(20:20):
I think I could do both, just clear out the
shop of all your employees can do.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
But what would you rather do?

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Because I'll put you on like a Saturday day or
I'll put you on a Friday night.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I think bartending would be safer because there's less hot
drinks going around, and so I would be less likely
to like hurt myself.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you don't have to steam milk that's a possible.
Here's here's my here's my proposal to you. I'll do
this happily, but I have to we have to split
the profit share for the day. However much money you make,
I get half of it. I don't make them. Well,
first of all, I make no money. So that's number one.
I'll give you. I'll tip you out, I'll give you tips.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now I want half of them. I don't want tips.
I want half of the revenue.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I was gonna ask you, like, it's not profitable a jace.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Of course it is. It has to be. It is
not profitable. Of course it's not. I can't, of course not.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's more uh so like I have not made my
initial investment back, which I knew I it would take
a while, but it's hard because labor cost is so high,
food cost is so high. It costs so much to
keep the business going. And then, as everybody who owns
a restaurant knows, your margins are small, and it always
needs work, like it always needs something, whether it be

(21:30):
tables are breaking, or equipment's going down, or I need
service people to come in and fix the fireplace, fix
the walk in, the coolers down.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
You know, well that's where dean people come in. You
can fix these things, all.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
These things for you, yet for free and not pay
you obviously. Hey, sorry, I can't make your drink right now.
I gotta go around and fix the refrigerator real quick.
I'll give you an example, dude. It was so.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Our walk in started, it went down, and obviously the
walking is very important. It has to hold temp and
if it does the whole temp we need to get
the food out immediately so it doesn't grow back here yet.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So it stopped holding temperature. Like shoot, I'm not gonna
square shoot.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
But then I called the service department that I said,
you know, take and they were like, well, we probably
won't be able to get there to till tomorrow. Like
all right, so I have to get all this food
out of there, and like I'm I'm putting it anywhere
I can to make sure that's holding temperature in proper refrigerator,
which takes all hours. And then the next day he
comes literally I didn't even know, so it still wasn't
holding temp. It was like eleven o'clock in the morning,

(22:28):
and all of a sudden, this guy comes like in.
He's like, oh, so what happened. So long story short,
so refrigerida was not working. And then I looked over
and all of a sudden, the temperature started going down
because it's supposed to below forty one degrees, and it
was at like forty seven, and then I looked over
it was forty four, and then I looked over as
forty two, and then I looked over thirty eight and
it started to erature, and I was like, what the

(22:49):
hell happened? And all of a sudden, this guy came in.
He was like, hey, it's working out right. I said yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
He's like, oh, you just needed a little oil in
the back. I came. I came in earlier, put some
oil in there, fixed it up a little bit. It's
good to go. He was there.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I'm not joking. I don't know between putting the oil
in ten minutes or so, ten to fifteen minutes, came back,
checked in on it was in the store for ninety seconds.
Left it was six hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, but that's how that goes. There's a little just
like good God. There's the old adage. You don't pay
me for the amount of time i'm working, You pay
me for the knowledge that I have or like where
to swing the hammer kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, you should FaceTime d next time.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
No, no, but fas.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Time you next time. There's an issue and you can
fix it.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
But you just lost over my super thing that I
was saying again, Oh here we go. You don't pay
me to swing the hammer. You pay me to nowhere
to swing the hammer is essentially what it is. So
like you pay them six hundred dollars because otherwise you
would there's no way that you would have known that
it needed a little bit of oil in the back.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
You know, no, exactly exactly so, but anyway, my point
being is that it's it's it's it's not profitable. What
I mean, there are other aspects. I mean, obviously I
want to make money off of it because I want
to ensure that it continues growing or continues going. Excuse me,
but I do love the sense of cam that has
really built, and I love the relationship that like I

(24:05):
have with the clientele and my employees as well. There
is a lot of positive affirmations in that. But dude, yeah,
you and I just like I would love to work
with you. I'm not even joking, like I would be
behind the counter because I am. Or I'm in the
kitchen and like Brom, I'm training you what to do
in the moment.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Can we open up a Colorado branch and we can
call it Ja Lias. There we go because you named
it after your mother in law? Right? Oh yeah, I
was like, am I supposed to know who Jayla is? Yeah?
That's Kaitlyn's mom's name. So we just keep the mother
in law street going. Or I was gonna say Debbie's.
Debbie's I think would maybe be a little more like
of a classic name. Yeah, but then that's a little

(24:42):
selfish of me.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, and generous is in uh Colorado, so you're not
far So we can.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Get the beans right there, get the beans, the locally
sourced under and beans. That's right. Yeah. Well, I mean,
you know, props to you. You've been running this business
for a while, so that's great. I think you've definitely
done a lot better job than I could possibly imagine doing. So.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Uh, it's just a grind, man, It's just every day,
you know, which I enjoy there.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I love working, like I love to work.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Just ask Ashley, like I need to work, I need
to get my hands dirty. Uh but uh, yeah, it's
a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
If you didn't have Audrey's what would you fill your
days with?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You think, good question.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
I don't know, honestly, I mean probably much more social
media centric. I mean, La was easier to fill our
days because there were so many networking meetings or events
or things that we had to go to to fill
our time, so to speak, because it just felt like,
you know, when we were living there, as you guys know,
you're just in the hub of the entertainment industry, specifically

(25:55):
before COVID, where it just felt like every single day
is like just meeting with this person or talking to
this person or going here or going there, and it's
all about like meeting people and you know, creating relationships
that form into partnerships.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Do you ever miss La, Jared, Do I miss La? No?

Speaker 4 (26:17):
There are If I could, I would say, be able
to go in and out. But man, like the idea
of flying cross country sounds awful.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
But like living because you lived there for a while,
so you don't ever miss living there, I guess is
my question.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, I definitely don't miss living there. I mean, obviously
I miss the weather a lot of times. I love
the changing of the seasons. I like here the New
England where and weather obviously is talked about so much,
and it's probably like, oh, this guy has nothing else
to talk about besides the weather, but obviously is a
huge impact on our daily lives.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, but we are.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Entering peak season in New England, which I'm very excited
about because seasonal depression is a very real thing. In January, February, March,
it's just like me out of here. So I do
miss that, like waking up in January and it's like
fifty degrees outside and I walk low as.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm like, oh, this is nice.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
But I mean, I just I always felt uneasy over there.
I always felt I was waiting for like California to
fall off into the ocean. Still am I still think
about that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think about that.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
That video, No, that it's the what is it?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
The oh the san andres falling.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yes, should have broken off a while ago.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
So well, they say it's definitely going to interrupt within
the next fifty years, like it's just inevitable.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
This is really just so so insignificant and so tangential.
But I was playing golf there last month. We were
standing on the tea box and all of a sudden,
this tea box started shaking underneath our feet, and I
at first I was like, someone's just playing loud music.
And I was like, wait, no, I'm standing on ground.
I'm not like standing in a house or building. And
then I look around and everyone else like stops what
they're doing, and there it was a you know, magnitude
three earthquake, so pretty small, but it's just crazy that

(27:57):
there is. And then we just like went back to
playing golf like nothing ever had, you know, you know,
it's just so crazy. You're just like, ah, that's fine, whatever,
let's gone.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Can we also, I know people say that this really
is the greatest time to be alive, the idea that
you're standing on a golf course in California, the earth
shakes and then it stops, and then you're like, all right,
let's just all right, I'm to how far are we to?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Sixty? Yeahct no exactly. It was so it was so
surreal because it was just like just such a non thing,
you know.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
But dude, and it's just like crazy to think about.
Ashley and I were looking up life expectancy the other day,
and in nineteen fifty, the life expectancy for a male
was like sixty four. Yeah, and that's not long ago.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, you know, I do think there's a weird thing
with life's expectancye how it's it's kind of going down
a little bit, like it was higher ten years ago
than it is now. Something strange, But abut it. Yes,
I do agree. It's so much better to be alive
now than in the fifty It's the best time to
be alive than any other peer previous time in his
It's not because because of healthcare and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I can't remember, you know why. I don't think it's strange.
It's because I truly believe that these things are killing us.
Oh yeah, but yeah, also, I can't live without it.
So it's like if it takes off, Like I'll ask
a question for you guys. If you know that this
thing your phone is going to take is taking two
years off your life, Oh so you could live just

(29:27):
too wo so like you would have lived till eighty two,
but now you're gonna die at eighty but you get
to have your phone.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I try to cut back a little bit and give
myself a year back.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I think the quality of life that you have near
the end isn't as as great and full as it
is in your thirties and forties and fifties eighty two. Yes,
but I guarantee you he was much cooler and more
energetic at thirty two, you know. And if the phone
allows you to network and connect with people, that enhances
your life to a certain degree. You're going to get

(30:01):
more out of two extra years in your thirties than
you would in your eighties. So I'm pro phone, even
if it gives me cancer.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
But yeah, I mean, cancer is just crazy, man. But anyway, Yeah,
it is interesting to see the life expected. He's going
down a little bit, but it's still high. I mean
for a male, it's mid seventies, women high seventies.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I do have a I always say to people, and
Kilen always kind of rolls her eyes at me, that
I think I'm going to be I'm going to live
to be one hundred and forty. I think generally, generally,
you know, give or take ten years.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
He says that, and then he also says he might
die before he's forty.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
If I die before I'm forty, it'll be through like,
you know, some sort of cool, crazy accident that everyone's
going to like talk about forever and ever, because if
that's how awesome it's going to be, hopefully, or if
I just if I die by natural causes, I'm living
to at least one hundred and thirty years old. I know.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I always told Ashley I was like I even before
we were together, I was like, I feel like I'm
gonna die relatively young, which is a horrible thought to have,
but I've always been like I dust, I don't know,
I feel like relatively young, quote unquote, like if I
make it to my sixties, is that young?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yes? Well, yeah, I just judgement by what we just said.
You just said if someone dies before the seventy you're like,
that's a little young. I mean I hope not. I
hope I live to one hundred and twenty. Yeah, we'll
see different. With kids, I feel like you have like
more of a reason they want to live longer. But
what how old do you think you're gonna be when
you die by natural causes?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Ninety two?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Wow? That's old? Wow? Good for you. You You think very
highly of your I'm very healthy, yes, but you always
hear these stories like you are healthy, you do take
care of yourself, You watch what you eat, and you
make sure you eat healthy stuff. I don't, and I
still feel like I'm going to double your life.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Express No, I disagree. Also, my grandpa super healthy, did
yoga for years, did hot yoga for years, like was
very active, and he's doing great. Yes, and I feel
like I'm in the same trajectory as him.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
That's fair. And I've never had an adult in my
family make it past seventy, so I guess the odds
are stacked against me.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
No, you'll be the first. But maybe just like cut
back on the poloni and the hot Cheetos and the
spaghettios and the.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Hot pockets every time I do, every time I eat
the like ray a lot ment of food that I eat,
and I go get like a blood test done. They're
always like, you're the healthiest guy we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
When's the last time you got a blood test? Like
ten years ago?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
That was about after I broke my leg, so maybe
four or five years ago, four years ago. But yes,
I do. I could eat healthier, I suppose, but I've
gotten way with it for this long. Might as well
just keep it going.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, now you're older, your metabolism is slowing down,
and you just like your body can't keep up.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Wow, you call me fat.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
No, I'm not calling you fat. I'm saying, like health wise,
you can eat this junk when you're young, but now
it's like it's not good for you.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Okay, fine, fine, I'll start eating lettuce with my bilooney
sandwich or but yeah, no, it's got to be different
for you, Jared, because now that you have Dawson and
the second one on the way, it's like you kind
of you know, if I die at forty, I would
feel so bad for Kail and having to be heartbroken
and a widower. But with a kid, I feel like
it just kind of complicates things even further.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Well as a yeah, as a parent, I mean, the
most the most important thing is I want to be there,
you know, I want to make sure that he's taken
care of. If I want to teach him life lessons,
I want to be there to ensure that he can hopefully,
you know, achieve the most he's able to achieve and
just and be happy.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I was thinking about that the other day. I think
the most important thing, like my biggest job with Dawson,
other than getting him prepared for the world, is I
just want him to be happy. You know, I think, man,
life is hard, but that's okay. Life is meant to
be hard. Like the idea that we're actually breathing and
living is a pretty spectacular thing to think about in general.

(33:27):
So the idea that life can be hard and it
hard quote unquote, like we're sitting on a podcast right now,
how hard could it be, you know, with a roof
over our head. A lot of people can't say that,
So I think, you know, I really just want him.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
To be happy.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
That's all I really care about. And that's why I
want to be here, is because I want to bring
him happiness. It's hard as a parent right now because
I'm also so aware that he's just I don't know.
I know people will probably disagree with me. I guess
it's hard to know how formative these years are. Like,

(34:04):
are the things that I'm doing for Dawson going to
reflect in any way in the future, you know, I'd
like to think so yeah, But you know, so now,
I guess my only job is like I want him
to be happy, so like reading to him or playing
with them, or like if he's playing with his toys, like,
but I also like trying to teach him things, and

(34:27):
and I don't know. I feel like I just sometimes
I'm like, does it matter? Does it matter if I'm
disciplining him now? Is that going to make any difference?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
No? I see your point too, because it's like, if
you look back at your childhood, you don't really start
remembering things until you're like three or four or five,
or however old you are.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
I don't know, and even that's so young to talk
about your earliest memories like mine. Maybe I'm just not
I don't have a good memory, but like I think
of elementary school as some of my earliest memories, and
I'm like second and third grade and I'm like, damn,
I was like five or six or seven at that point,
and that's the earliest I can remember.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's kind of while I'm like, if we have a baby,
let's just give him to someone for five years, and
then once he starts getting to the point where you
remember stuff, then we take him back and then we
start like doing just you know.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, these are the most formative years. They're like little sponges.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, well that's what that's what Jared is saying. It's like,
you you do believe that I mean, I'm sure you
do believe that, Jared, but it's like hard, how much
of a sponge are they really? And like what exactly
are they absorbing everything? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
My first memory is as from two years old?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, and what's the memory?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Oh I hadn't tophalitis, so I was paralyzed, So it
was more trauma memory. Yeah, more trauma than anything. But
that's my realliest memory. And then I started remember remembering
things after that.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Are other pictures of you as a paralyzed two year old?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, I was in the hospital for a while.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, and what's the memory? Just sitting there in the bed.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I woke up and I couldn't move my body and
I yelled for my mom. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I think it's also different for men and women, and
I know that's playing gender roles something we shouldn't be doing.
But just from my experience with Ashley and Dawson, I
think I and again maybe it's just like the man
in me, Like I want to provide for Dawson. I
want to, you know, be there for him and teach

(36:24):
him lessons and of course like make sure he's happy.
But like I think Ashley wants to, like, you know,
and I love cuddling with him too, but like the
important thing for her is just like you know, showering
him with love and affection, and like now is that

(36:44):
this is the time to do that? You know, these
are the moments where he's gonna like just be such
a mushball. And as much as I enjoy that, I
know Ashley enjoys that more so. I guess maybe as
a dad. And I feel like a lot of dads
go through this. Like once I'm able to like really
communicate with him and talk to him and and kind

(37:06):
of hope, you know, developed the man that he will
like one day become, That's what I'm most excited about.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I think all of that leads to their personality,
leads to how they'll be a friend a partner. Like
starts starts right when they get them out of the womb.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, I guess, so so hard to say. I mean,
there's probably some research done on it, but who knows
for sure?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I think I think it's pretty No.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I just watched or I just read this thing yesterday
about how Nicholas Cage says that his early memory is
being in the womb. What Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Way, that's such bullshoun believe that man for one second
if he said that, I.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Don't believe m either, But the fact that he's saying it, like,
you know, maybe there's something something that.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
No way, no chance, no chance. But they're also like
we do remember it in like physical terms, like fetal
position is comforting for us because we were in it
that position for so long, right, right, right, So maybe
we don't have memories from being in the womb, but
our body remembers.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, it is scientifically impossible to remember events before your
brain is sufficiently developed to hold onto such memories.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
When does it sufficient? This is a big.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ass article, But memories are weird too. I read a
whole book on memories, and it's hard to decipher what
is a memory and what was told to you.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right. That's why I was asking if you had any
pictures of you in the hospital, because a lot of
times too, we'll see like polaroids of our childhood and
we'll just know that we'll remember the polaroid more than
we'd remember the moment, and so we like register that
picture as a memory. Like when I was a kid,
we lived in a bus for three years. I don't
really remember much. I do kind of remember some things,

(38:50):
but I remember like climbing on the roof. Yes, But
then we also like in our family photo album when
I was a kid, when I remember looking at it,
there was pictures of us climbing on the roof, and
I'm like, do I actually remember it climbing on the
roof or do I just remember seeing the picture of
me climbing on the roof and then registering it as
a memory.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's great. It's crazy how they can be manipulated so
easily too. It's kind of scary our memories.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh, the memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of the point
I guess is like who knows what's real and what's
not real with memories. Your brain's a weird thing. It
can make stuff up, and it can make you believe
things that aren't necessarily true.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But the way that you're raised defines how you'll be
as an adult and how you'll be as a teenager
and stuff. And it's like you can tell someone that
they had a great childhood and or a terrible childhood,
but they still remember it in a way that they're
going to it's going to define their personality you know.

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Speaker 1 (40:41):
I meant to say this earlier too, when we were
talking about the iHeartRadio Awards. It's crazy to me how
so many of the awards given out were from artists
that are not they're kind of making new music now,
but they were just big in the nineties and the
two thousands, Like the Nostalgia Factory, I feel like was
so important in that and it kind of made me realize,
like there's not that many great current artists, like a

(41:01):
lot of good artists that we love to listen to
and everything, but not maybe as big of icons as
there were back then.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I feel like gen Z is like craving how we
grew up, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
And it's funny because I feel like we were craving
how the eighties and the nineties grew up. Like we
didn't get the Beatles or the Rolling Stones or anything
like that, like the huge, huge bands. We had a
couple big ones, but nothing like as big as those bands. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Well, with the exception of Taylor obviously, I think she's
the one exceptionion beyond, but yeah, and Beyonce, I think
I just I think Taylor and Beyonce is an icon
and she's incredible and one of the most powerful people
in the world. I just think what Taylor has done
over the past two years has put her on a

(41:48):
level that I don't think I've.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Ever seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, she is just so I mean, I've never I
just I can't believe how popular she is.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I also think that Taylor has had so much bad
PR that Beyonce hasn't necessarily had to deal with in
the same way, like starting with the VMAs and Kanye,
and I think Taylor has used that bad PR to
our advantage and has made her more popular.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I guess I just hate that our generation is being
defined by Taylor Swift versus like the our parents' generation
defined by the Beatles and like these actual I'm not
saying Taylor Shift isn't talented. She is, absolutely, but it
just it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like Taylor
Swift is on the same plane as someone like the
as a group like the Beatles. And maybe it's only

(42:32):
because she's still in the middle of her career and
the Beatles' career is, you know, long and gone. But
I don't know if an artist is going to define
a generation, I want it to be someone that I
really enjoy listening to, and it's not necessarily Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
So maybe it's just like a selfish you don't get
to decide.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's what I'm saying. Maybe it's a bit selfish of
me to want that, but that's just kind of where
I'm at right now. Like, I don't know, I'm not
even a big fan of the Beatles honestly too. Like
I've tried listening to all their albums and I'm like,
they're but I don't really see the appeal so much.
So I guess I probably would be saying the same
thing about the Beatles if this was the nineties, you know,
or the eighties or whatever. I would probably still be

(43:10):
grumping about it a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I also think the crazed fan base was like the
only way to see them is like to go and
physically see them and stock them. Now we have access
to Taylor and any celebrity we want with social media,
you know.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And I also think the pool was just smaller as
technology has grown and we've become more connected than ever.
I don't think it's even really that possible. That's why
I think Taylor is kind of an anomaly. The idea
that she's been able to do, which she's done in
this day and age where there is so many artists
and there are so many songs to get your hands on.

(43:46):
I mean, before the only way to listen to music
was on the radio or you had to actually go
buy their cassette or CD. Now and then of course
like LimeWire came, and then you were able to download
music on your phone. And now you have Apple Music
and you have Spotify, and you have all these things,
like if we go on our phone, we have access
to millions of songs. And so I think maybe that's
another reason why there's really no like that many, you know,

(44:10):
if you want to compare to our generation, like big, big,
massive musicians anymore, just because there's so many that it's
just like hard to there's really nobody that takes the cake.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, it's like spreading us. It's spreading us way more
thin than they were back then.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
I guess, dude, even think of Taylor Swift, like you
think of Taylor or Beyonce. I mean, like Beyonce right
would be considered an icon today, I would think. So,
I mean, when did she hit the scene mid nineties,
We're talking thirty years ago, Like Taylor Swift even she
started really hitting the scene in the late two thousands,
so you're talking about fifteen years ago. So like the

(44:44):
most iconic musicians of today still were. You know, they
came out fifteen twenty years ago. So it's like, what
is the most recent massive musician. I don't even know.
I don't even know that's come out over the past
few years. I couldn't even name one.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Zach Bryan, Jelly Roll, Olivia Rodrigoz, Olivia.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Rodrigo, Tate McCrae. I just looked at that. Beyonce is
only forty two years old. I thought she was older
than that.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
For some reason, Beyonce's forty two, thirty eight or something.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Dude, I thought she was like, yeah, close.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
To fifty forty two. She looks so good, I thought.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I guess the reason I think that is because jay
Z is fifty four, and I thought they were closer
in age. So jay Z is twelve years older than Beyonce.
But do you think who's bigger, Taylor Swift or Beyonce Jared.
I don't think it's a competition, Taylor, I don't. I
just think I think if you would have asked me
two years ago, it'd have been like, that's tough. But
I just think what it's kind of like I compare

(45:38):
because obviously, you know, Taylor is such a topic conversation.
I compare the run that she's had over the past
couple of years to the second run that Brady had,
because if Brady retired before twenty fourteen, he would have
gone down, you know, as one of, you know, one
of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, top five, but

(45:59):
then all of a sudden, he went on this second
half run where he won four more super Bowls and it.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Was like, oh wow, he is the greatest of all time.
And I think that Taylor is in that run right now,
where like this Error's Tour, like what happened last year
with that Errors Tour is just like, dude, like did
who even knew Beyonce was on tour the same time?
You know, like I'm sorry, but like it was just
like it was Taylor, Taylor, Taylor and Beyonce is huge

(46:26):
and she's iconic and she's incredible. But I just think
that like right now, in the world we live in,
it's like Taylor's number one and everybody's flying for number two.
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I just looked up a couple of comparative stats here,
So Taylor Swift has won what is it, four albums
of the year, which is the most all time. But
Beyonce has won thirty two Grammys overall, which is the
most of all time. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
But I think they were going to the same arenas,
the same show during their tour, Like, I think it's
pretty equivalent.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
But then Swift has a total of seventy five million
albums sold, but Beyonce only has a tour of forty
two million albums sold, So by that metric, Swift is
almost double.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
But also I don't know if that's counting, Like, Taylor
re recorded all of her albums, so are you counting
that a second time.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I'm not counting anything. I'm just reading.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'm just wondering, you know, the stats, Like I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, And I totally like stats are a huge
factor in this argument, obviously, you know, but I think
I'm arguing for stats and also the influence that this
person has over the population and in the pop culture sense.
And it's just like I just think Taylor has tapped

(47:37):
into something that I mean, I haven't really seen.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
It's interesting since like Michael Jackson. Yeah, so I just
looked up the top selling artists of all time. They're
not even on the list either of them, but one
one performer is that's still performing now. Top ten are Beatles,
Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Elton John, Queen, Madonna, led Zeppelin,
and then Rihanna at nine Wow, and then Pink Floyd

(48:01):
at ten. Rihanna, Yeah, which I wouldn't have suspected either,
but maybe because she's kind of stepped away a little bit recently.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Well you do you think of Taylor and Beyonce as
number one in one or one and two however you
want to define it, And I think if Rihanna is
like in the tens, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
She's top ten overall, triple what Pink Floyd has sold
in terms of certified units, I don't know what that is,
but yeah, very interesting. Rihanna is the only person on
this list to have released an album. Her first release
was inn O five and everyone else has released the
near next closest one was nineteen eighty three. So she's

(48:36):
I mean by that metric, she's damn over everything.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
We got to get Rihanna in on this conversation, obviously.
Have you guys ever made a playlist for a significant
other or like for you know, someone that you had
a crush on Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I feel like I remember doing little CDs like burning CDs. Yeah,
but I don't know if I ever gave it to
anyone and just did it for myself.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
You love yourself, that's why. Yes, yes I did once.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I definitely name drop songs. I don't know if I've
made a playlist, but like I definitely have been, like
you know, you know, this song is just really impactful
for me.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Listen to this song on repeat.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That's so crazy that the kids will never know. They'll
just make playlists on Spotify. They'll never know. Burning CDs, yeah,
and how intimate it.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Was, How intimate it was, And then you get the
dvdrws that you can rewrite over, so you like have
one CD even though it was like thirty bucks, you
could like rewrite it with a bunch of different songs
whenever you wanted. Do you remember that? No? No, because
you know you burn a CD, it's burned forever and
that's just the CD. Now.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Maybe I did have those because I think I would
keep burning over them.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, So dvdrws were the expensive ones that you could
reburn and then you put it in your walkman and
it skips or like you get sick of a song,
so you have to skip it every time it comes up. Yeah,
good days, Good days.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
It's crazy too that we had iPods and like you
only had what music you put on it.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Right, did you guys have like the visor on your
car with the sleeve or like this CD sleeve on
your car visor or the console.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I had the console with all of the cases.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Oh yeah, I remember we when I was a kid,
we had like we would listen to music at dinner.
We would like put anya on her you know, some
sort of like dinner non lyrical music. And we had
this nice big stereo system that had like a CD
changer in it, and that was like the revolutionary technology
at the time, so you could put like thirty CDs
in it and then just pick whichever CD you wanted
to play from the same player. The guys are rich, Yeah,

(50:28):
we were really Yeah. Yeah, we lived good for a
couple of years there, but then it all went downhill
real fast, like off a cliff. I guess you could say.
That's another thing too, Jared, I want to wanted to
ask about I don't know, you're you're upbringing. He was
like kind of middle class, right, lower middle class.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Ah, why don't know what the definition of lower middle classes?
I mean we had my dad worked. My mom did not.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I mean she would waitress every once in a while.
But and then my dad, you.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Know, he's he was a I mean, I don't want
to say just a prison guard, like he was a
captain of the ACI. But yeah, I mean we My
house's modest house I grew up in with four people,
which is insanity. My poor parents. I don't know, like
a thousand square feet I guess maybe a little less,
so that's tiny.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, so i'd say middle class to lower middle class, right,
and so now you and Ashley owner position where you're
upper middle class. I would say to give that to Dawson.
It's a pretty cool experience. My brother is kind of
the same way. You know, his upbringing was middle class
to lower middle class, with spurts of some money throughout,
but not significant. And now him and his wife are

(51:37):
doing really well. So he's like, I can't wait to
give my daughter everything that I wasn't able to have
when I was a kid. I think that's pretty cool too, Yeah,
it is.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
I also don't want I want him to know the
value in.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Earning your money That's the tough thing about it too.
It's like, how do you instill that? Because you want
to give them everything that they ever asked for, but
at the same time, you want to instill good values
and work ethic.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I guess yeah, I mean, I don't get me wrong,
we already actually, and I have many conversations about, you know,
his college fund or safety net or insurance money or
things of that nature to make sure that Dawson is fine.
But yeah, I I you know, there's there's a there's
a big part of me that really wants him to
you know, I'm just I'm such a guy, like I

(52:22):
want him to.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Earn his weight through this world. You know, if his
hands aren't callous by the time he's entering elementary school,
you're blowing it. Hey, right, if Ashley started smoking cigarettes,
what would your reaction be. I mean, I wouldn't like it, Okay, Yeah,
I would tell her to stop.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
What if she had of her mind? What if she
didn't stop? I would not want to be with someone
who smoked all the time. Are you talking about like
smoking a packa day or like.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
One packa day? Wow?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Why why are you bringing this up? Are you are
you smoking now, No, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I did say randomly, like a month ago, I was like,
I kind of want to get into smoking cigarettes, and
like not serious, but I was just like, yeah, i'd
be cool, happy to get into. Obviously would never do it.
But Caylen and I were at dinner with a bunch
of friends the other night, you know, we were all,
you know, a little drunk, I guess, and I was like,
the subject of smoking cigarettes came up, and I was like, killing,
if you started smoking cigarettes, I think I'd probably ask
for a divorce.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I never would. And also he for him to bring
up two weeks ago and say I think I want
to start smoking cigarettes. But I know deed and I
know how to react with him, so I just didn't respond.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, I think I was just looking for a reaction.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
But then I woke up the next day I killed him.
The next day. I was like, do you remember talking
about getting divorced me last night? I was like, no,
what are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, you
said if I started smoking cigarettes, he divorced me. I
was like, oh, that's different. I stand by that.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I can tell that's charlest me
man My dad smoked when I was a kid, and like,
you walk into a room and it's.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Like, oh, yeah, he's just didn't headache.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You're get in his car or something, and it just
has that smell. My dad smoked cigarettes when I was
a kid too. He would uh he. So I asked
my mom about it, and I was like, Mom, what's
dad doing. She's like, Oh, he's smoking a cigarette. If
you ever see him smoking a cigarette, you're allowed punch
him as hard as you can. And so until I
was like a teenager, I would walk up to my dad,
see him smoking a cigarette, just give him the biggest

(54:03):
dead arm I possibly could.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
And he was fine.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
He was like, Oh, I guess if that's what it
takes to let me keep smoking cigarette. Right. I always
thought that was kind of funny, But I guess that's
probably gonna do it for this week's episode. Right, unless
there's anything else you guys want to touch on, we
hit it all talking about memory. I don't even remember
what we talked about today, so hopefully you guys enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Pop culture, Easter, memories.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Cigarettes, cigarettes, all good things. Alrighty, you guys, that's gonna
do it for this week's episode of Suckers Jared Klin
love you be shooted to you in next week, where
maybe we suck just a little bit less