April 2, 2024 • 17 mins
Ben is hanging out the latest Bachelor Nation podcasters, Kathy Swarts and Susan Noles from The Golden Bachelor! Ben shares some veteran podcasting advice and hears what caused Kathy and Susan to butt heads already!
Kathy and Susan help answer a question from a fan who developed feelings for a much younger person.
And, we get an update on their love lives since the end of The Golden Bachelor!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We don't always have a video of our podcast, but
when we have very special guests, we videotape it, especially
guests that look this beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Kathy and Susan are here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We're gonna be talking about your new podcast, this big
project called Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
We are thrilled we've done. Our first one came out
last week.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
And the feedback has been fabulous. So one of the
things that we want to say is more about women
our age and fifty and up not thinking life is over.
There's so much more life. And I always say it's
the best chapter, right Kevy.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I think this is definitely gonna be the best chapter
of our lives. But I think what is gonna make
our podcast a little bit different is we are not
we may look at we're not twenty or thirty somethings.
Definitely we try, we try, but the issues that people
our age face are very different. And I think the
(01:08):
goal is to give people hope and give them encouragement
to change their lives, to live life to the fullest.
And that's really what I think we want to do.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're encouraging them to write into us so we can
answer some of their questions. Yes, so we had a
few write in last week and Kathy and I on
some of them were on opposite shocker and some of
them we completely totally agree. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But here's one of the things that we did last week.
We had we invited people to send us dms if
they had guys, you know, their grandpap, their next door neighbor, whoever,
to frust updates with. So today we're going to screen
each other. We're going to scree each other states. So
today we're at the airport and I had this great idea.
(01:56):
Let's I mean it is April first I did. We
did this video of us saying that we were in La.
We both had they had done such a great job
of sending god.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Ivy with states waiting for us, so these people are
all excited.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So and then we went through the whole thing about
we were here for dates, it might be the marriage, right,
and then we looked right in the camera.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And said, Aprils, am I the first guy you've seen
since you got to LA.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Then actually talked to Yeah, that's good, You're that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I was the one waiting, Okay, so I want to
break this down in some pieces. Here my first one,
and I'm very curious about gott to know the two
of you, big personalities, incredible people, have a lot of
wisdom to share. Here's the thing that happens because I've
done this for eight years now with my co host, right,
school less please, you're both talkers, right, you both have opinions,
(02:49):
and you can have opinions and good opinions on every
topic that's out there. So as two co hosts, what
makes the two of you able to co host this together?
To learn that kind of dance?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, we're still learning.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We're learning, we're learning. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
We're trying not to interrupt each other, no offense. I
love you, you're my sister.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Interrupt me where there I go.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Kathy's long winded, and sometimes I have to jump in
or I wish there was like a queue or something
that we could do. But we're working on it, we are,
and then I find myself trying to overtalk to get
it all in sure, So.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We're going to work that out, right, it's a dance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's a dance, and you figure it out, especially if
you love each other, you care about each other, you
want the podcast to be successful. There are very many
moments when you have to bite your tongue and kind
of say, hey, I'm going to wait here. What ashould
end up doing is we have a sign where I
put my finger up or she puts her finger up. Hey,
I have a point. I have a point. This isn't offensive.
(03:49):
We both get it, and after we do it for
seven years now I can jump in and be like Ashley,
where are you going with this? Or she can jump
in and say, Ben, what are you talking about? But
for a while it was just hey, give me some
space here. I have something I want to say, or
I have two questions in a row here that I
want to ask because I'm trying to get somewhere with this.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You don't overuse it, you don't abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It, but it is helpful, thank you, instead of just
like getting frustrated, because frustration will be a thing, even
when you really love your co host and you're like,
this is going to be great.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, I think you hit on it. Ben, Susan and
I think the same on many issues. But then we'll
something will come up and we are on opposite ends
of the table, and you know, I want to say
what I think, and she wants to say what she thinks,
and that's where it takes the learning the dance.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And my fear is I'm going to forget what I
was going to say because I'm listening and paying attention
to what she's saying, and now my thoughts racing. But
it's something that we're new at.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And you'll see my notepad.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So when we record, I have a notepad next to
me and I jot down notes on questions I want
to ask, because you always will forget you. And the
worst thing when you're doing an interview and you have
thirty minutes is when you sit there and you're like,
I forgot what I was going to say, and you're
sitting there like lost in your thought. So I just
take little notes. Here's the thing that I had to
get used to. This is really hard for me. It
probably happened. I mean we've been doing it for eight
(05:08):
years or seven and a half years, so probably only
three years ago I used to this. There are things
in my notepad that I never get to. I have
to be okay, just throwing it in the trash because
the conversation's moved on past that point. Right, we're in
a flow. This is kind of the medium that we
get to do. It moves forward, and if it's moved
forward too.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Much, I'm like, I don't get and the only people
who are gonna know it's you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's you.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's like, you know, it's like writing when I've done
a lot of writing in my life and I think, oh,
that's a great sentence. But sometimes you have to take
it out and the only one that knows it's missing
is me. Same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And here's the other point of podcasting. I've never met
anybody that listens to podcasts because they want to hear
the hosts, especially if you have a guest talk more
than their guests, because they're gonna hear your voice every week. Now,
you just mentioned that you are getting people writing it.
That's something We just started the almost famous podcast about
four months ago.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's called Almost Good Advice.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I've listened and the reason that we do Almost Good
Advice is because neither neither Ashley nor myself are experts,
but we always have different opinions. We see life on
completely different spectrums for multiple reasons. Right one, you know,
she's a wife and she's a mother. She comes from
the East Coast, right. My faith is very important to me.
(06:24):
I'm from the Midwest, I'm a husband, still newer to it,
right compared to her, I have a dog's he's a handful.
But we never agree really, And that's the beauty of
what happens at some point is you can start to
argue in a way that's like, I don't know if
I'm right or wrong here. So how are the two
(06:45):
of you going to argue passionately with being okay with
being wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Can I answer that?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Knock you?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
We agree to disagree one of the things. When we
were looking over those things prior to going on air,
and you had an your reaction was a certain way.
Then when we thought about it and you started easing
up a little, I said, no, stay with your original reaction.
Stay true to yourself.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh it's not no matter of me staying true to myself.
When when you start thinking about something, you think, well.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Maybe this may be that you talk yourself out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well, it's just you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Something's made sense.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Some things makes sense. But I think sometimes a knee
jerk reaction is not necessarily you know, the best advice, right,
So you have to you have to think about it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But as you said, we're not professionals. We're giving you
from our life what we've learned in life.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Wait, can I just tell you the best question that
we had so far?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Let's hear your.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So Ben sixty nine year old guy, thirty year old woman, divorced,
living next door with two children. The sixty nine year
old has been invited over for dinner several times. He
kind of wants to lean in and kiss her. He
thinks he's got feelings for her. I'm like, Susan, can
you count from thirty to seventy and do it slowly
because that's how many years apart they are.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Now I'm going to say the story okay, because she's
exactly right. She's divorced with two small kids. He lives
next door. They're very good friends. The children know him.
He goes three times a week for dinner. Okay, but
he is having a feeling that he wants to kiss her. Sure,
she got stuck on the age right pop pop six,
(08:27):
I said, when you lean in to hug her every time,
you'll know you look her in the eyes or communicate.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
With so Is. The question was should I kiss her?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I don't want to ruin the Fhow so it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Was written from him saying should I kiss her?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And let's just give a little tease to your show.
Then your differing opinions were.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Can you count from thirty?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Age differends matters.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You're saying age different matters, And I said, we don't
have all the information. But she's thirty and he's sixty nine,
and she's probably inviting him over because her grandfather is
probably dead, and she feels sorry for him because he's
living like him. She likes his company, his wife. It's
a sympathy dinner, Susan, Your advice three times a week
(09:15):
is not a sympathy dinner.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I said, you can usually tell if you look them
in the eye if they want to reciprocate if not.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
When you go to.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Huggard to say, I really want to kiss you, but
if it's going to ruin our friendship, I won't thirty communicate.
I don't care. I'm not telling you they're getting married.
Maybe they want to just have a little affair.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So let me dig into this a little bit here.
So age is an issue to you, Kathy, You you think.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That, like, listen, my son just married a woman. Susan
actually married two weeks ago, and she is ten years
older than my son. She's fabulous. I'll do ten years,
But I think forty years is different generations, it's different culture,
it's different.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Every there's a lot of differences.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Now, Susan, your opinion is if you were thirty, let's
throw back to when you were thirty years old. Oh,
and this happens, right, How would you have wanted this
to be handled same way?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
For him to ask you?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Because I feel like as a thirty five year old
that even asking I want to kiss you would you're
already kind of messing up. If it's not right, if
she's not into it, you're already messing up to three
times a week dinner.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right, So there's maybe another way.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So if I have to think about it and sleep
on it and listen to your opinion and her opinion, yes,
it does make sense. Wait, in my head, it might
have been a little affair or something that they were
going to keep as adults. There's nothing wrong with that
to each his. Oh that's how I felt, and I
don't want to judge.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I know we could probably find some people out there
who have a big age gap. I don't even put
a number to it. They have real love. Yeah, but
they have real love. They have found of companionship, partnership,
and they're making it work together and it's made their
lives better for whatever romantic relationship, you know, whatever the.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Benefits are of that. Never say never, never say never.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So but this is the beauty of this. You guys
are gonna come at it from two different opinions. Now,
one of my final questions for the two of you
when it comes to Golden Hour, you two are sitting down.
You're best known because of your time on The Golden Bachelor.
Can fans of that? Are people that are not fans
of the Golden Bachelor, I've never seen the show? Would
(11:31):
they get anything out of your show?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Okay, We're more about reaching women of America and sharing
that it's not over. Like we just said, your best
chapter is yet to happen, whether it's a friendship, a
relationship with a man, Ahabby, no matter what it is.
People get stuck sitting on the sofa. I think, and
they're too old. Life is over.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I'm just gonna sit here and.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I think, I think, I think, Yeah, I think. This
podcast is a jumping off point from the Golden bachelor
and our experiences. But it's not that we have all
the answers. We've lived a lot of years. But that's
our both of our hope that we can talk about
things from our point of view, from where we are
in life, having had children and spouses, dy and divorces,
(12:22):
that will maybe give some insight and help other people
find more meaning and purpose and enjoyment in their lives
at this stage.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Also, many, many people from California to Saint Martin come
up to us and share their stories. We've brought something
out of them and they're teering up with us. We're
cheering with them, sharing how we made them feel, how
we made them think more positive. That's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And we're not I think you know, I think people
our age have felt invisible, and that's our goal. Is
one of our goals to not make people our age,
you know, let's call it over sixty, not feel invisible anymore.
We have a lot to say, We have a lot
of life to live, and a lot of love to give.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
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(13:44):
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Speaker 2 (14:14):
Podcasts in a similar vein here. When somebody starts a
new project, the question I always end our conversations with is,
if you have one person and you're gonna have a
group of people, many people that listen, what do you
just hope they take from it? Like, when they're done
(14:36):
listening to you, if there's just like one clear sentence,
one couple words here, what do you hope they feel?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I hope they feel that their day is better and
they got some kernel of encouragement and happiness out of
listening to.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Us, feel better about themselves. Yeah, and realize they're not invisible.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you can listen to the Golden Hour podcast with
Kathy and Susan. Uh, We're anywhere you can listen to podcast.
I'm assuming you do.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Have to go on Bachelor Happy Hour to find us.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So you're in Bachelor Happy Hour thread. So you go
to Bachelor hop air, you can find the Golden Hour podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It's your Bachelor Happy Hour perfect and it's weekly.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yes, and if you want to write in, it's Bachelorhappy
Hour dot com forward slash Golden Hour and you can
submit your questions and.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You want questions from all everyone everything.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Also, can I just can I just plug unmercifully?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Anything?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
If you have that special grandfather, father, guy next door,
next door, please send them our away. We'll fight over them.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, my final question for the two of you is
going to be have you dated since the show we're shaking?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I did?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I did have one? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, you win yeah, good.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I met him and now he's a nice man.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Can I try? It's like for Susan. Yeah, when Susan
says he's a man, he might be listening. You're a
nice man.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He is a nice man, and I still talk to him.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
That's great. We met Marshall's hey. I mean, that's your
modern day love story. Shop for aprons and he was
looking for socks.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The two of you are great. I can't wait to
listen fan of the two of you. You're gonna be
great together. This is going to be an amazing dance.
I can't wait to see the evolution of the show
and the two of you as hosts. It's gonna be fantastic.
Can we have you on anytime? I would love to
be there.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You're one of the ones we want.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
To come here. Never. I would never say no you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I just want to say I'm plugging your podcast. I
listen to you, and I think you are an amazing
man for your age, for any age, you give incredibly
good advice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thank you. You've always been very nice to me. It
means so much. I'm honest, it really well.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Thank you. I know you are. We love you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Hey again, Our Kathy and Susan under the Bachelor Happy
Hour podcast thread. Tune in, check it out.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We want to hear from congratulations and we'll see you there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This has been the Almost Famous podcast and I've been Ben.
We'll be back well next week. It's off season here
at the podcast. Bachelor is over and so now we're
transitioning into really great interviews, really good content, some more
almost good advice. And also we're gonna start teasing the
next season of the Bachelorette, which obviously has started filming.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We have some big news on that we're going to.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Talk about why they're not the Bachelor Mansion this year,
absolutely shocking.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We want to know, we want to inquire in mind.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So we'll be back till next time. Until then, I've
been Ben.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We don't always have a video of our podcast, but
when we have very special guests, we videotape it, especially
guests that look this beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Kathy and Susan are here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We're gonna be talking about your new podcast, this big
project called Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
We are thrilled we've done. Our first one came out
last week.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
And the feedback has been fabulous. So one of the
things that we want to say is more about women
our age and fifty and up not thinking life is over.
There's so much more life. And I always say it's
the best chapter, right Kevy.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I think this is definitely gonna be the best chapter
of our lives. But I think what is gonna make
our podcast a little bit different is we are not
we may look at we're not twenty or thirty somethings.
Definitely we try, we try, but the issues that people
our age face are very different. And I think the
(01:08):
goal is to give people hope and give them encouragement
to change their lives, to live life to the fullest.
And that's really what I think we want to do.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're encouraging them to write into us so we can
answer some of their questions. Yes, so we had a
few write in last week and Kathy and I on
some of them were on opposite shocker and some of
them we completely totally agree. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But here's one of the things that we did last week.
We had we invited people to send us dms if
they had guys, you know, their grandpap, their next door neighbor, whoever,
to frust updates with. So today we're going to screen
each other. We're going to scree each other states. So
today we're at the airport and I had this great idea.
(01:56):
Let's I mean it is April first I did. We
did this video of us saying that we were in La.
We both had they had done such a great job
of sending god.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Ivy with states waiting for us, so these people are
all excited.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So and then we went through the whole thing about
we were here for dates, it might be the marriage, right,
and then we looked right in the camera.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And said, Aprils, am I the first guy you've seen
since you got to LA.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Then actually talked to Yeah, that's good, You're that's good.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I was the one waiting, Okay, so I want to
break this down in some pieces. Here my first one,
and I'm very curious about gott to know the two
of you, big personalities, incredible people, have a lot of
wisdom to share. Here's the thing that happens because I've
done this for eight years now with my co host, right,
school less please, you're both talkers, right, you both have opinions,
(02:49):
and you can have opinions and good opinions on every
topic that's out there. So as two co hosts, what
makes the two of you able to co host this together?
To learn that kind of dance?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, we're still learning.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We're learning, we're learning. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
We're trying not to interrupt each other, no offense. I
love you, you're my sister.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Interrupt me where there I go.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Kathy's long winded, and sometimes I have to jump in
or I wish there was like a queue or something
that we could do. But we're working on it, we are,
and then I find myself trying to overtalk to get
it all in sure, So.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We're going to work that out, right, it's a dance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's a dance, and you figure it out, especially if
you love each other, you care about each other, you
want the podcast to be successful. There are very many
moments when you have to bite your tongue and kind
of say, hey, I'm going to wait here. What ashould
end up doing is we have a sign where I
put my finger up or she puts her finger up. Hey,
I have a point. I have a point. This isn't offensive.
(03:49):
We both get it, and after we do it for
seven years now I can jump in and be like Ashley,
where are you going with this? Or she can jump
in and say, Ben, what are you talking about? But
for a while it was just hey, give me some
space here. I have something I want to say, or
I have two questions in a row here that I
want to ask because I'm trying to get somewhere with this.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You don't overuse it, you don't abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It, but it is helpful, thank you, instead of just
like getting frustrated, because frustration will be a thing, even
when you really love your co host and you're like,
this is going to be great.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, I think you hit on it. Ben, Susan and
I think the same on many issues. But then we'll
something will come up and we are on opposite ends
of the table, and you know, I want to say
what I think, and she wants to say what she thinks,
and that's where it takes the learning the dance.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And my fear is I'm going to forget what I
was going to say because I'm listening and paying attention
to what she's saying, and now my thoughts racing. But
it's something that we're new at.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And you'll see my notepad.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So when we record, I have a notepad next to
me and I jot down notes on questions I want
to ask, because you always will forget you. And the
worst thing when you're doing an interview and you have
thirty minutes is when you sit there and you're like,
I forgot what I was going to say, and you're
sitting there like lost in your thought. So I just
take little notes. Here's the thing that I had to
get used to. This is really hard for me. It
probably happened. I mean we've been doing it for eight
(05:08):
years or seven and a half years, so probably only
three years ago I used to this. There are things
in my notepad that I never get to. I have
to be okay, just throwing it in the trash because
the conversation's moved on past that point. Right, we're in
a flow. This is kind of the medium that we
get to do. It moves forward, and if it's moved
forward too.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Much, I'm like, I don't get and the only people
who are gonna know it's you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's you.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's like, you know, it's like writing when I've done
a lot of writing in my life and I think, oh,
that's a great sentence. But sometimes you have to take
it out and the only one that knows it's missing
is me. Same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And here's the other point of podcasting. I've never met
anybody that listens to podcasts because they want to hear
the hosts, especially if you have a guest talk more
than their guests, because they're gonna hear your voice every week. Now,
you just mentioned that you are getting people writing it.
That's something We just started the almost famous podcast about
four months ago.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's called Almost Good Advice.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I've listened and the reason that we do Almost Good
Advice is because neither neither Ashley nor myself are experts,
but we always have different opinions. We see life on
completely different spectrums for multiple reasons. Right one, you know,
she's a wife and she's a mother. She comes from
the East Coast, right. My faith is very important to me.
(06:24):
I'm from the Midwest, I'm a husband, still newer to it,
right compared to her, I have a dog's he's a handful.
But we never agree really, And that's the beauty of
what happens at some point is you can start to
argue in a way that's like, I don't know if
I'm right or wrong here. So how are the two
(06:45):
of you going to argue passionately with being okay with
being wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Can I answer that?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Knock you?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
We agree to disagree one of the things. When we
were looking over those things prior to going on air,
and you had an your reaction was a certain way.
Then when we thought about it and you started easing
up a little, I said, no, stay with your original reaction.
Stay true to yourself.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh it's not no matter of me staying true to myself.
When when you start thinking about something, you think, well.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Maybe this may be that you talk yourself out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well, it's just you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Something's made sense.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Some things makes sense. But I think sometimes a knee
jerk reaction is not necessarily you know, the best advice, right,
So you have to you have to think about it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But as you said, we're not professionals. We're giving you
from our life what we've learned in life.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Wait, can I just tell you the best question that
we had so far?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Let's hear your.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So Ben sixty nine year old guy, thirty year old woman, divorced,
living next door with two children. The sixty nine year
old has been invited over for dinner several times. He
kind of wants to lean in and kiss her. He
thinks he's got feelings for her. I'm like, Susan, can
you count from thirty to seventy and do it slowly
because that's how many years apart they are.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Now I'm going to say the story okay, because she's
exactly right. She's divorced with two small kids. He lives
next door. They're very good friends. The children know him.
He goes three times a week for dinner. Okay, but
he is having a feeling that he wants to kiss her. Sure,
she got stuck on the age right pop pop six,
(08:27):
I said, when you lean in to hug her every time,
you'll know you look her in the eyes or communicate.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
With so Is. The question was should I kiss her?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I don't want to ruin the Fhow so it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Was written from him saying should I kiss her?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And let's just give a little tease to your show.
Then your differing opinions were.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Can you count from thirty?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Age differends matters.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You're saying age different matters, And I said, we don't
have all the information. But she's thirty and he's sixty nine,
and she's probably inviting him over because her grandfather is
probably dead, and she feels sorry for him because he's
living like him. She likes his company, his wife. It's
a sympathy dinner, Susan, Your advice three times a week
(09:15):
is not a sympathy dinner.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I said, you can usually tell if you look them
in the eye if they want to reciprocate if not.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
When you go to.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Huggard to say, I really want to kiss you, but
if it's going to ruin our friendship, I won't thirty communicate.
I don't care. I'm not telling you they're getting married.
Maybe they want to just have a little affair.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So let me dig into this a little bit here.
So age is an issue to you, Kathy, You you think.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
That, like, listen, my son just married a woman. Susan
actually married two weeks ago, and she is ten years
older than my son. She's fabulous. I'll do ten years,
But I think forty years is different generations, it's different culture,
it's different.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Every there's a lot of differences.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Now, Susan, your opinion is if you were thirty, let's
throw back to when you were thirty years old. Oh,
and this happens, right, How would you have wanted this
to be handled same way?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
For him to ask you?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Because I feel like as a thirty five year old
that even asking I want to kiss you would you're
already kind of messing up. If it's not right, if
she's not into it, you're already messing up to three
times a week dinner.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right, So there's maybe another way.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So if I have to think about it and sleep
on it and listen to your opinion and her opinion, yes,
it does make sense. Wait, in my head, it might
have been a little affair or something that they were
going to keep as adults. There's nothing wrong with that
to each his. Oh that's how I felt, and I
don't want to judge.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I know we could probably find some people out there
who have a big age gap. I don't even put
a number to it. They have real love. Yeah, but
they have real love. They have found of companionship, partnership,
and they're making it work together and it's made their
lives better for whatever romantic relationship, you know, whatever the.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Benefits are of that. Never say never, never say never.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So but this is the beauty of this. You guys
are gonna come at it from two different opinions. Now,
one of my final questions for the two of you
when it comes to Golden Hour, you two are sitting down.
You're best known because of your time on The Golden Bachelor.
Can fans of that? Are people that are not fans
of the Golden Bachelor, I've never seen the show? Would
(11:31):
they get anything out of your show?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Okay, We're more about reaching women of America and sharing
that it's not over. Like we just said, your best
chapter is yet to happen, whether it's a friendship, a
relationship with a man, Ahabby, no matter what it is.
People get stuck sitting on the sofa. I think, and
they're too old. Life is over.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I'm just gonna sit here and.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I think, I think, I think, Yeah, I think. This
podcast is a jumping off point from the Golden bachelor
and our experiences. But it's not that we have all
the answers. We've lived a lot of years. But that's
our both of our hope that we can talk about
things from our point of view, from where we are
in life, having had children and spouses, dy and divorces,
(12:22):
that will maybe give some insight and help other people
find more meaning and purpose and enjoyment in their lives
at this stage.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Also, many, many people from California to Saint Martin come
up to us and share their stories. We've brought something
out of them and they're teering up with us. We're
cheering with them, sharing how we made them feel, how
we made them think more positive. That's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And we're not I think you know, I think people
our age have felt invisible, and that's our goal. Is
one of our goals to not make people our age,
you know, let's call it over sixty, not feel invisible anymore.
We have a lot to say, We have a lot
of life to live, and a lot of love to give.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (14:14):
Podcasts in a similar vein here. When somebody starts a
new project, the question I always end our conversations with is,
if you have one person and you're gonna have a
group of people, many people that listen, what do you
just hope they take from it? Like, when they're done
(14:36):
listening to you, if there's just like one clear sentence,
one couple words here, what do you hope they feel?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I hope they feel that their day is better and
they got some kernel of encouragement and happiness out of
listening to.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Us, feel better about themselves. Yeah, and realize they're not invisible.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you can listen to the Golden Hour podcast with
Kathy and Susan. Uh, We're anywhere you can listen to podcast.
I'm assuming you do.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Have to go on Bachelor Happy Hour to find us.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So you're in Bachelor Happy Hour thread. So you go
to Bachelor hop air, you can find the Golden Hour podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It's your Bachelor Happy Hour perfect and it's weekly.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yes, and if you want to write in, it's Bachelorhappy
Hour dot com forward slash Golden Hour and you can
submit your questions and.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You want questions from all everyone everything.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Also, can I just can I just plug unmercifully?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Anything?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
If you have that special grandfather, father, guy next door,
next door, please send them our away. We'll fight over them.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, my final question for the two of you is
going to be have you dated since the show we're shaking?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I did?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I did have one? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, you win yeah, good.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I met him and now he's a nice man.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Can I try? It's like for Susan. Yeah, when Susan
says he's a man, he might be listening. You're a
nice man.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He is a nice man, and I still talk to him.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
That's great. We met Marshall's hey. I mean, that's your
modern day love story. Shop for aprons and he was
looking for socks.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The two of you are great. I can't wait to
listen fan of the two of you. You're gonna be
great together. This is going to be an amazing dance.
I can't wait to see the evolution of the show
and the two of you as hosts. It's gonna be fantastic.
Can we have you on anytime? I would love to
be there.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You're one of the ones we want.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
To come here. Never. I would never say no you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I just want to say I'm plugging your podcast. I
listen to you, and I think you are an amazing
man for your age, for any age, you give incredibly
good advice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thank you. You've always been very nice to me. It
means so much. I'm honest, it really well.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Thank you. I know you are. We love you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Hey again, Our Kathy and Susan under the Bachelor Happy
Hour podcast thread. Tune in, check it out.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We want to hear from congratulations and we'll see you there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This has been the Almost Famous podcast and I've been Ben.
We'll be back well next week. It's off season here
at the podcast. Bachelor is over and so now we're
transitioning into really great interviews, really good content, some more
almost good advice. And also we're gonna start teasing the
next season of the Bachelorette, which obviously has started filming.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We have some big news on that we're going to.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Talk about why they're not the Bachelor Mansion this year,
absolutely shocking.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We want to know, we want to inquire in mind.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So we'll be back till next time. Until then, I've
been Ben.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
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