May 7, 2024 • 48 mins
Our Bachelor Nation OGs Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter reconnect with Shannon Oliver from the very first season of The Bachelor!
Find out what really went on during the early days of the show, hear how Shannon helped influence Trista’s one-on-ones during her season, and Shannon reveals who was there for the WRONG reasons!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody,
welcome to Almost Famous the Ogs. Bob Guiney here with
the beautiful Trista Stutter. Trista.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Who do we got on the show today?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We have Shannon Oliver, who I am so excited to
talk to. If you don't remember that name, she was
on the very first Bachelor with me. She was I
think we were roommates actually, and then she got to
be part of Bachelorette too, So we're gonna we're gonna
hear what's up with her, what's up with her life,
(00:33):
if she still watches the show, what she loved about
being on the show, all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
So excited.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I love Shannon, I know, same, same. So let's bring
in Shannon. Hi, Bob, how are you today? Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Sutter?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm great? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I like your new background.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Where are you? Where are you going from?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
This is my dining room, kitchen's over here, living room,
you know, just trying to change it up here she
has We've got she Oliver Oliver. Everybody, you don't age,
you don't don't.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Guys, stop it. I literally was trying to think back
to how old I was, and I was like, oh
my gosh, no, I can't. I can't even go that
far back.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was trying to back to how old I was.
I love the way you put that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I try to forget how old I am pretty much
daily and at my age, I do forget those things.
I forget where my car keys are, where my car is,
where I live.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Who I am?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
How old is your youngest?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
He is two and a half, he'll be three. Well,
I guess he's two and three quarters. He'll be three
in July.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Okay, so you win. You have the youngest child out
of all of us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm sure out of me for next week.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my gosh, I love it. You're born to be
a mom.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're so.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel like you are just such a great personality
and demeanor and temperament and everything to be such a
great mom.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My kids might disagree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No, So for those of you who do not remember,
Shannon was on the very first Bachelor season with me,
and we have remained friends since. She's actually come out
to Colorado with her family. I got to meet Did
I meet both boys?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Then?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Were they both born?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I just had Jack?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Okay? Yes, Okay, so we've stayed in touch, and as
I've said on here numerous times, I feel like the
connections to the people who have been on the show
are you know. I mean, obviously I met my husband
and that's pretty pretty amazing. But the connections that I
may have made with other people are you know, a
(02:47):
close second. And so that includes you obviously, Shannon. But
it's been a while. We haven't seen each other.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's been way too long. So funny, you know, schools
have mystery readers and so you always like take your
kid's favorite books up there. Jack always wants me to
take that book that you gave him and you had
like the artists like draw picture, sign it. That's when
I was a boy. When I was a boy, I dreamed.
Is what it's called speakers Now send it? Yes, Oh
(03:18):
my gosh, it's funny. I send that to almost everyone. Bob,
I have to send it to you too. I don't
know if I if I sent you one, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Say I would say you didn't, because no one sends
me anything. As we've we've talked about this week. A
few times people come on the show and they were like,
you know, promoting their book, and Trista will go I
will tell you I read it. I love it. Thank
you so much for having sent it to me, autographed
with a five hundred dollars bill in it. And I'm like, well,
that's so weird because I I must have gotten left
(03:46):
off that mailing list again, got it?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
No, I this is not my book. This is just
a book that I sent to Shannon when she had
Jack so very nice, so I need to send you
to you. It's amazing. But that makes me so happy
that he picks book.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I love it, loves it. I mean still so Bob,
your kids would love it too. They're like, it's the
perfect ages for this book.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Love that they you know, I would love to have
something to read them, given the fact that today this
is going to show the shortcomings of me as a dad.
Uh you know, my wife's out of town. So I
had to get the voice ready for school this morning.
And it's Show and Tell day, and it always goes
by the alphabet, you know, and so Grace and.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Says Daddy, today's end.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And I'm like, oh, okay, en, And I'm looking around
the house and I.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I'm like, oh, here we go. Perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I threw a box and Nilla wafers in his bag
and I go this, this is excellent.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It kills two birds with one stone.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Buddy. You take this in, you hold it up, and
then you give it out.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
As your snack.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's true. She's going to be a hero for the day.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
This is how dad brains work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm like, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Either a fistful of Nichols or it's a Nilla.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Wafers Nickles, Well you mentioned it. Shannon was meant to
be a and has since after Jack had another boy.
She's a boy mom. But you do it so well
for anyone who wants another follow on Instagram. Follow Shannon
for all of her stuff, Like you not only work,
(05:15):
but you are like, go get her fundraiser. It seems
like either for school or community and super involved in
your school obviously mom and doing all the things at home.
How do you do it?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Asking me this and like behind my phone all I
see is like yellow and blue. It is a sea
of minions Cooper's birthday party. Like as a boy, I
wanted a girl, like I'm very girly all of everything,
gurly tea parties. And when I found out we were
pregnant with Jack, I actually cried. I cried sat tears
(05:52):
because he put the boy and not a girl, and
I'm like, I don't even the boy for me. I
got boys that let me indulge in all of my
party planning.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And they not.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Only let me indulge, but they embrace it. So Cooper's
turned into party diva. He like, so, Mom, what party
prep did you do last night? Granted, he's turning four
parties in a park and I feel like I should
have just rented out a venue at this point because
he keeps adding everything to it. We've got Minion's popsicles today,
(06:27):
he woke up and he was like, I want a
snowcone truck.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm like, we.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Already popsicles, we don't need a snowcone truck, and like,
but that would work on today, mom.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And I'm like, oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He said, what party prep have you done?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's talk.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Not my mom, No, Mom, it's like, what did you
do last night for my party?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
A little notebook? You know, Mom, I'm going over my
notes and the party prep seems to be lacking this year.
Uh that's funny, Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You know, my my my wife is a boy mom. Also,
of course, we have two boys.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And we're five and two and a half are the ages,
and she's kind of you know, I think I think
it sort of comes with the territory for people, because
you know, you you and she have very like similar
you know, very organized and very well like everything's put together,
and you know, just very sweet and kind people, and
(07:27):
so she is always.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
On the party uh planning tip as well.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that's why I felt like such a loser today
when I was like getting him ready for school and
I'm like, my wife would have had like a duffel
bag full of accouterments, and on snack day it would
not have been the show and tell item also being
dispersed as a snack. It would have been like, you know,
I don't know, it would have been nutella. If that's
even allowed in a school. I don't know, because I'm
a dad, right, but if it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Were not, probably not. It's something with any newt in it,
So not.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, Okay, So Shannon, you mentioned that you're you know,
a girly girl, and what I remember and I want
you to share one of your favorite memories from the Bachelor,
(08:19):
But one of the big things that I remember is
being in the living room of the Bachelor. I guess
the mansion that we lived in. It wasn't the mansion
that they have now, of course, but when we had
that and we got the date box. Back then it
was a date box, right, And we got a box
(08:39):
and all of us are huddled around this velvet, this
beautiful velvet. I don't I don't know if it was
a box or an envelope at this point, but it
had an HW on it and everyone is like, hwhw.
And I was like Harry starting, I'm figured it out,
and I was like, oh my gosh, who's going on
(09:00):
a date that revolves around Harry Winston? Ama Shannon. She
got the very first of anyone of anyone on a
franchise princess date. So amazing. That was one of my
favorite like memories, and of course I was super jealous.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Everyone was fair. That was an amazing date. And I think,
like you, and to come from such a different place
because everything was brand new, like we never knew what
was next. We literally had no clue and like you said,
you know it used to be a box, like yes,
you I remember for my overnight date. I think when
there was four of us left. I got this huge
(09:39):
gold box and it was full of like fake snow
and ear muffs. Like that's how they told us what
we were going to do, and now they get like
it's totally different. But I kept that stuff for the
longest time. I think I finally got I still have it?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I still have you? I have my Harry Winston box?
Because that was pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Where did you go you went to obviously you went
to Harry Winston, but didn't you get like dressed up
in dresses? Didn't you get to pick out a gown?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think it was a scatta. I don't even know
if that's still in business.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, Oh it was so much fun. Okay,
So what was one of your favorite memories from the show.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think, oh my gosh, I mean, to pick one
would be near impossible. But like you said, like it
was like we I don't even think, like now people
know what to expect, Like you have a total different
framework going into the show now than we did back then.
We didn't even know what was going to happen in
five minutes, let alone for the whole entire six weeks
(10:40):
that we were gone. I think is that we did
become friends in that environment. Now, I think it's easier
because they know the whole deal, Like the guy's gonna pick,
Like you are probably gonna go on Bachelor in Paradise
with most of the people in the house. You might
as well get to know them cause you're gonna have
be with them again.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like none of that.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So the fact that all of us became friends and
stayed friends, I think says a lot that you know,
we really just in it for the guy. Back then,
you're not in it trying to get Instagram followers, trying
to get like some you know, product sponsorships. Gosh, can
you imagine if that was around back then, Trista, you'd
be like a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I know, right, we would if you So when when
Sally Anne later went on to create Jersey Shore, and
I remember saying to her one time, I was like,
if you would have monetized us the way you monetized
the Jersey Shore people, we would all.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Be in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It was crazy, but yeah, you're absolutely right. No, there
was there was no social media back then. What would
we have done?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, you know, and even the whole like remember, Trista,
do you remember this? Like we had a notebook and
we passed the notebook secretly around and everyone wrote their
phone numbers in it so we could Yes, I think
I still have that. Actually, ill to go.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Oh my gosh, I want to see it.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So I remember afterwards like it was very weird. They're like,
you can't talk to anyone about this, like no one can,
and they threatened, like they threatened us to like our
lives ending if we told anyone. So I was there
to even tell my family, and I Trista and I
became friends, and I was like, I'm just going to
reach out to Trista.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have her phone number.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
No one knew I had her phone number, so I
called and I left a message on your answering machine
because we didn't even have help.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We are so, oh my gosh, you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I I can picture it right now too, my answering machine.
That is so funny.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think that maybe it was your mom or someone
her message and they told Legal that I had reached out,
and Legal called me and they were like, maybe it
wasn't your mom some somehow.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Like my mom wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But no, it wasn't your mom, but maybe they told
me was your mom, because you know how how that works,
so like we know, yeah, right, so they were threatening
me with legal action, and now I feel everyone to talk.
They want little spoilers to get out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I know, I remember that that time was so different.
I mean I was right after you guys, and of course,
you know, I got a little bit of legal wrangling
for having a record deal. When I went on the show,
I already had a record deal. And now they bring
people on there and they're like, you know, Serenader with
your guitar, Jimmy and all these guys go on the
(13:35):
show and they're like all of a sudden, and I'm like,
I didn't even sing on the show, Like what are
guys talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I didn't know you got in trouble for that or like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well you can talk offline about that one, but it
was major.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I have no Well that is it's a different, totally
different show, totally different.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
With social they don't even take the phones away. Now
they want everyone posting, you know, if they're on a
group date and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, but I think I think they still take their
phones away, because I just read that Maria, who was
on Joey's season, this most recent one, she was asked
to be bachelorette and she one of her demands was
who knows if this is srue or not? Of course right,
So one of her demands supposedly was that she wanted
(14:24):
to keep her phone. So I know that they they
take away their phones, but what they do is they
give them or producers take pictures with their phones, or
they get like I don't know if they get like
some kind of like disposable or something like that where
they have them take pictures. I know, I know that much.
They definitely don't have their phones, but what they do
(14:45):
have is direct access to everybody who has an Instagram account,
because all you have to do is DM somebody and
you can read and you can look out. So we
had no way of getting in touch with each other
except for writing and in our little Oh my gosh,
(15:06):
that is hysterical. So do you think, Shannon, that you
would be able because I have been asked this question
if social media had been around back then, would I've
still done the show? And I don't know if I
would have because I am so super freaking sensitive that
I don't know that I could take all of the
judgment that strangers just like to spew, you know, what's up.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
For the message boards? ABC used to have like chat boards,
and that broke me. And I can't remember's name. Shoot,
I'm totally blinking. I could have told you if I
wasn't trying to tell you. But anyway, I was like
taking me the airport. She was like, whatever you do,
just don't get online and don't read like message boards.
(15:53):
Just don't read them. She was like, stay away from them.
Of course, then I got home, like.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What's the best. That's what I did too. They're like,
don't look at the message boards.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I dove in beside, I didn't even know there was
a message.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Human worship you're going to do that?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And Shannon, if you're anything like like I know, Tristan,
I've had this conversation before. But you would see like
a million nice things, right, and you'd be like, oh,
that's nice, that's nice. Then one person would be like,
you know, I don't like her.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Banks, what are wrong with my banks?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You know? Or like for me it would be like
I don't like his laugh, What the hell was wrong
with my laugh. I can't change my laugh. I mean,
it was like I would obsess about the mean stuff
and not even recognize all the nice stuff, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, one hundred percent, which is so sad. It's those
little tiny and then my caps were fat. I mean
just like it's like, okay, but you and now looking back, obviously,
like we were all a lot younger when we did this,
and that felt you felt it a lot more. I
don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Older.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Now I have like a bigger reference point. I've got children,
like I feel differently about things in life than but
that was all I had back then.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And like you said before, there was nothing like it previously.
So it's the first time that someone I mean, I
remember having this conversation with a friend of mine who
was on was one of the executive editors of US Weekly,
and they would just do all these kind of like
what we would now call clickbait, right, but they would
like make statements on the cover and I'm back to
my normal life. You know. The show hasn't even aired yet,
(17:24):
and I'm like, you know, at Kroger and I'm like
seeing a cover of a magazine with my face on it,
and they're like saying mean things about me. I'm like,
what what's going on? You know, you weren't ready to
be plucked from obscurity and then all of a sudden
be someone who is being put under a magnifying glass
and just dissected.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
By all these people behind a keyboard. You know, It's
just it was tough. You weren't prepared.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, and now girls have a problem with like something
that happens or the format of the show. I'm like,
well you should know better, like what are we on,
like season twenty eight or something.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Don't be stupid and don't act like you've never in
the show.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I didn't. I didn't know I was going to come
on and someone else.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But you're not going to do your research and actually
watch the show before, even if you've never watched it before.
You're not applying to be on the show if you've
never watched it before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Absolutely Yeah. And you know the way it works too.
You know there's thirty people dating the same dude or
thirty guys dating.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The same girl for that first night.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's like, come on, man, you know, and if you
can't handle it, but you know what, I think that's
a play too, though, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I think a lot of these people go on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And say that so they get the attention for it,
and then they you know, now they're like, okay, and
now now I've got something to you know, beat the
drum too. I'm the first one that said it, just
like the whole you know, I'm not here to make
friends thing became a thing right and it was like all.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's like, what are you there for? Like what are
the right reasons they go on a dating game show?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean, you're there to potentially meet somebody, but ultimately,
wouldn't it be great to meet thirty people from across
the country that you would have never met otherwise?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Awesome?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I like, yeah, that's my favorite part from ours is
like us because we still have that. I still tell
a lot from the first season and I don't feel
I mean, now how many people have been on The Bachelor,
like eight million, because there's been so many, but someone
understood and you could never understand if you hadn't itself.
(19:22):
And so we had aized together, you know, like we
went through the situation that no one would get if
you hadn't done it. So I think that helped us
like bond together too, because we got it, like and
we got the mean messages and oh my gosh, like
all those auction like the Bachelor auctions that they would
do after the show. Yeah, well maybe you didn't because
(19:46):
you went right onto the Bachelorette. But for those of
us who weren't, like they would, like Chris Harrison's mom
even did one where you would go and someone would
pay a lot of money to this charity and then
y'all would go on like a group dinner together like
it wasn't any.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, did you do that?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
We I met a ton of people from the other
seasons after us, from those because they would do like us,
and then the second season us in the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Third season, so that like and it put on by
ABC people, by the producers, like they would coordinate it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It was put on by like charities people trying to
raise money.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay, yeah, that's great. They should do that now. I mean,
the charities would make a whole lot of money if
they did that with all kinds of reality shows.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They'd make a lot more now than because there was
no way to really promote them before. It was just
like locals, you know, for the people who would write yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I mean, I
know that we had little reunions like Jesse Sinsak, I
feel like planned so many of those, and I feel
like we went to a couple right you did, didn't
you go?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It was a Colorado RT your person rage right.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yes, and we had the spa day and then the chef.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh my gosh, wasn't there one on a cruise ship?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I remember there being one on a cruise ship that
I wanted to go on and I couldn't go.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh yeah, plenty of that.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I think there was.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I feel like multiple, yeah, right, Oh my gosh, that's
so yeah. Who do you still stay in touch with?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I had to like scan my brain. I'm like, Jesse,
who's Jesse?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I know, Jesse the honest person. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think he did one in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We did well. The first one was in Vegas. I
remember the first one. That's when I met That's when
I met you, Shannon was.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I met everybody at that first one in Vegas at
the hard Rock you met.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
She met you on my season?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh no, I know, but it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Was this was while I was off the Bachelorette. But
the Bachelor your season of the wait. I was, oh,
that's right, I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Because you were not you. We like, you weren't part
of Bachelor Nation until my season. So he doesn't remember
or has it watched it in a long time. They
let me, and I feel like they should still do
this to this day. This is like my biggest advice
to them is to have friends come in for the
lead and help them through it. So it was Sarah,
(22:20):
my best friend from college, mis see my best friend
from grad school Shannon, and oh gosh, who am I missing?
There was Oh no that it was just the three
of you guys, remember, then came in and got to
like pick out dates and hang out in the house. Right,
you guys, did you live in the house with the boys?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't think so, I feel they did.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
We didn't know where they were because we I mean
I remember thinking, I remember thinking, I wonder where they
all went, because I thought we thought you went back
to download.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So late at night, and we were like, like you
were gone on a date, but we were there like
partying with the rest of the guys because something with
dog food.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you know Jamie blythe Jamie Yeah, that was Oh
my god, that is the Faithful Night when Tricia the
faithful Night, I guess it would be when Trista came
home and was mad at me, and that was because
they made me. So we played the Sentry Club and
we were all doing one hundred shots of beer in
a hundred minutes, and Text threw his first can up
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on the roof because we had that kind of like
weird roof, and so we all started throwing the cans
on the roof, and then as Trista's pulling up, they
come up to me. They throw an apron on me,
hand me a broom and a ladder, and they go,
you got to go on the roof and clean all
the cans up. I'm like I do, and I'm like, yeah, God,
I didn't throw any cansler. They're like, it's okay, you're
it was your idea for this party. So I go
on the roof. I'm sweeping cans off. I still have
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on my bathing suit and apron, and Trista comes in
and she's like, hmm, why is it when I go
on a date and you and I'd been on a
group date with her. I come back and everyone was
like asleep and reading the Bible and I go on
a date without you and I come back and it's
a frat party gone sideways, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Like, what what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Like they totally set me up to take the fall.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I remember it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm like, hey, no, I was not mad. I couldn't.
I couldn't have been mad at that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You were you were you were giggling through it, and
that's why I knew, like I knew, you know, And
I'm like, okay, all right, I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, I wouldn't be mad at you for that. I'd
love And then when my friends got to come in
and actually like hang out with you, and give me
the scoop because they hung out with you. It wasn't
like at your house, you know. It wasn't like they
were coming in just being present at like a bar
that they had a date at. Like you guys got
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to really truly like get to know them, which I love.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
It was so interesting though. So we went in and
we legit like we interviewed every guy there well, and
we were like, we were like, We'resa's future husband. So
we we had big pow wows. We talked about all
the guys and we figured out the ones that we
wanted to go on, like the one on ones with you,
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and then we went back and told the producers and
they're like like, no, you shouldn't send her with that one.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, do you remember who it was?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh? I mean that was like twenty years ago, so no,
I'm not remembering something that they said that he said
something while he was in the bathroom and they heard
it on his mic, like he was there to promote
his music career or something.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But we never do you remember that? Yeah, Greg, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Greg, Thank you, Bob. Yeah, So we were going to
pick him as one of your guys to go on
one time and.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They're like, uh huh, don't pick So he was the
one that went. We went to New York. I'm trying
to find a picture of the four of us. Was
one that was in New York a tiny, small apartment
and everyone like made a big deal out of it
when like, honestly, it wasn't like that big of a
deal because we were we were young, he was living
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in New York, he was a musician, like whatever, It
was not a big deal. But of course they made
a huge deal out of it, and they were like, oh,
Trista has to have like more than a teeny tiny
apartment with the whatever I'm like, don't make me out
to be high maintenance when I'm not. Okay, this is
this was I don't know if you can see it,
(26:39):
but on my fortieth birthday. Remember look at that advice
look out that was during the show. And then this
was in my mansion. I think you guys came over
to the mansion the girls here it is, Yes, it
(27:00):
is in the mansion. Remember those like flowers that they
had everywhere? Look at the floors, do you remember the floors?
Did this bring you back?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Bob?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And like the red Belty, Oh my gosh, isn't that amazing?
And my big long hair extensions.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You like showed us your wardrobe and I was like Christa,
and it was of clothes.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was amazing. And then they sold them. But we
don't have to talk about that anyway. So we've talked
enough about my season. I would love to know, like,
how how is life, how is justin? How is life
with the boys? What does your daily life look like?
And what are you up to?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
It's honestly, it's so great. Like I joke about wanting
a girl so bad and being sad. But I was
meant to be a boy mom, Like these kids are
like they're my world. And and I think if I
had a girl, it would have been bad news, Like
I would have been like the worst helicopter mom over
a girl. But with the boys, you just have to
let them go. I mean, you have one of those.
(28:11):
So every kid is different, but boys are wild and
they need to be free, and that's probably better for me.
Otherwise I would be like right there like all the time. Yeah,
my boys, Oh bye, you stay here, we're going. But
it's great, Justin it's funny. So Ryan's out of town,
Bob's wives out of town, and Justin's out of town.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They're all well, really good work. But yeah he's out
of the cops. Yes, we're all seeing with parents.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, all parenting. But it's great. We live in this
tiny little community that is like Pleasantville. It's just great.
Like there's I'm sure, like you were saying on social media.
We've got huge events for Easter and Halloween and Christmas,
I mean every holiday. And it's just great for me
to be somewhere where my kids can just like have
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a place to just enjoy life. You know, I tell
him all the time, you only how lucky you are
to live here with all of this like fun. It's
just fun, like everything fun.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Is this the house that flooded and you fixed it
up because your house got demolished and the yes, what
was that like Harvey?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
What year was it? That was probably six years ago
or seven. That was during Harvey. So we just had Jack.
He was like ten months old. We lived in a
little nineteen sixties like cute little house that we loved,
but it needed more space. Like the laundry room was
in a closet. I was like, I need like a
room like with a kid, you know, couldn't like for
(29:57):
us to do the clothes. So we were going to
add on a laundry room and then a room for
Jack on top of it. And we moved out on Monday.
Harvey hit Friday. Our househouse that we had just moved
out of, flooded that Saturday. The next day, our rental
house that we moved into flooded Wednesday. And then we
had a weekend cabin on a river like an hour south.
(30:19):
But all of the floodwater from Houston flooded down the river,
So then that house flooded the following friday. So we
had three houses flood in one week.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Stop it. I don't remember like all you were going through,
but that is so much, so much crazy. And Jack,
was you feel like it made your your marriage stronger?
Or did you guys stroll in those times? You honestly
like situations like that will make or break you. And
if we had only house flood.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
We may not abade it. But we had three, and
we had to find somewhere to live, and we had
to like we were constantly like working on everything, and
so you just had to like put your head down.
And the hardest thing about that was my neighborhood over
ninety percent of the house is flooded because we back
up to it. By you were just like a bunch
of cold desat by you, and so just got to
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the next neighborhood up they didn't flood, And so it's
like our world was turned upside down, but all of
your friends and everyone that you know just went back
to normal really quickly. That was the hardest part, was
like being in this like devastating place, but like just
if you literally went like five houses north of where
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we are, everything was normal. So it was a rough
couple of years just with the newborn and trying to
figure out where to live. We moved. I think we
moved five or six times and three years.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that place that the places that
flooded are no longer yours, like you you're completely yeah,
got it. I'm sorry. Just his internet just went out,
so I know, be back.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
So this house like where this was, that's where our
house was, but it was completely totaled. So we had
the structure to do the add on. And he came
back after and our wood floors like they peaked up
when they swelled, but they also pushed out, so they
pushed our exterior walls off the slab and then all
the brick collapsed because there was nothing underneath to hold
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the brick up.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So you completely like just leveled it and started over.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, we had he said, the head left was the slab.
But I'm like, if we're rebuilding, we're not building at
this level, Like we're gonna build up so where the
flood was just in case, and I don't think we'll
ever flood again. Harvey was just a crazy, crazy like
probably once in a lifetime storm, but if you've got
to spend redo it. We just built up.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But they're good.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Your home looks beautiful from where we are, and I'm
sure it's beautiful everywhere else with all of the Minion
stuff everywhere.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Like die if you saw what I see right now.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love it. I love it. We actually had a
Minion party for Max when he was I don't know,
probably around Jack's age. So much fun, so much Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
That Denver, Like, how is Denver? I haven't moved?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, we did. So. Ryan was commuting from Vail to
Denver for three years, I think, and that you know
that drive because you've done it before, but it's like
a two hour drive and it was a lot. And
then Max asked he wanted to change schools just to
have an elevated academic and athletic experience. And we go
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to a they're at a Christian school now and they've
got you know, the faith based stuff, which is really
kind of like makes my mom's heart just feel good
about the education they're getting because I've kind of failed
them as a as a Christian mom. I just, you know,
I don't know about you guys, but I grew up Catholic,
(34:12):
and I went to Sunday school every Sunday, right, and
and just learned a lot. Well, I just I didn't
do a lot of that for my kids. So the
fact that they're learning kind of more really about just
how to be a good person, you know, makes my
heart happy, makes me feel good place. So for a
(34:33):
lot of reasons. All of those. Plus Ryan's parents live
like five minutes away from us, and so we wanted
to be nearer them as they get a little bit older.
There's a great dance studio for Blakesley. Just lots of
opportunity and lots of targets. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So you're shopping a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yes, And the mall, I mean we didn't have those
in Vail.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, I would forget like five minutes before I logged
in here.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's in there.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's an amazing convenience to have. So for lots of
good reasons. But yeah, it's going well. We of course
miss the mountains, but we're hoping to get back there
at some point and just you know, visit our friends
whenever we can. So yeah, it's good, it's good. I
have to visit. The next time you're coming through, make
sure you come. Just let me know if you're flying
(35:33):
into Denver, because I'd love to sk you, I know,
and I.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Expears to become a hotbed for bachelor people too.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
True. Yes, there are a lot of people. Ben Higgins
is here. He's not in Denver proper anymore, but he's here.
And then Blake's uh Portsman I think is his last name.
He just had a baby. I heard with Gianna from
Organ from Love Is Blind. Have you guys watch that show?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, I've never seen the show, but I've met Gannina
and Blake, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, so there here I have I knowl Lace is here.
She just had a baby too late. Lace had a baby.
Yeah yeah, I saw her when she was pregnant. We
did this jewelry store like photo shoot thing and uh,
(36:30):
she was there and she was about ready to pop.
She looked beautiful. Yes, good. So do you still watch
the show, Shannon?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Of course? I mean, don't we all. It's like, once
you're in, you've gotta like just it's like you're in
for life.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I know a lot of people don't feel that way.
But especially like this season, I feel like probably got
people back on on boat. Like Mollie Mesnik. She has
specifically said she met Joey at the Golden Wedding and
she watched her his season because she met him, and
(37:11):
then she's like, now I'm hooked, Like this was a
great season to get I meet.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Him at the I didn't meet Joey at the Golden Wedding.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I knew you were going to say that he he
will not let this go. Like literally, Shannon, did you
meet Joey at the Golden Wedding?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Because I didn't meet him.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I didn't. Yeah, we all everyone but you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I almost didn't say it, like I was like, I
shouldn't even say it because he's just gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
It was just the best response ever though, Oh yeah,
we all met him. Yeah he's lovely, love him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Dormy's my new favorite guy.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
But what you were true, I feel like for a while,
like obviously in the beginning, none of us knew what
we were doing and we didn't know this show, and
they throw some but then it just went like off
the rails with like remember the Chicken Lover, Like no
nobody really even had jobs. Everybody was just and now
(38:14):
like all of these girls, especially on Joey's in the
last few seasons, it's kind of going back to that
where everyone remember Trista, like for our season you had
to they were looking for professionals, like with professor jobs
that had focused on their careers and not focused on love,
and then it just went the opposite end of that.
And now I feel like they're going back like everybody
(38:34):
was working and you know, normal, they had good jobs,
and you know, I feel like it went back the
basics a bit agreed.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think that may have been influenced by The Golden Bachelor, though,
like Tristan and I talked about that, Like the one
thing about the Golden Bachelor was that it went back
to the basics exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, obviously we all watched that and you all went
to the wedding, some of us did.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
That's that he was joking about it. He's he has
a vendetta still that he didn't get all.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I was invited and then they called me back and
they're like, actually, Bob, we have to cancel your imitation
because Trip does a plus three. I'm like, what, it's.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Not true, that's not true. Do you dream about my children.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm totally teasing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
No, you know, I did not get invited to that one.
And but I love teasing Trista because you know, it'll
come up and she's like, oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Such a great wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But I but I will say this about the show
and I and I've said this a lot, I was
worried about the Golden Bachelor because I thought, given our
experiences and what we know, I thought they were going
to be like stunt casting, you know what I mean.
Like I thought they were going to throw a couple
of cougars in there to to mix it up. And
I was really not happy about it until I saw
the casting, and then I was so happy because it
(39:53):
was age appropriate and it wasn't sensationalized, and it wasn't
a bunch of you know, people coming in there just
to stir it up. And I really liked Gary and
I you know, I was happy about the whole thing,
and I think it got us back to the roots
of the show. And so I feel like for Joey's season,
I think that that was actually kind of awesome that
(40:13):
it was like, like Shannon said, a bunch of people
who had jobs and were focused on finding love. And
you know, I thought that was really cool. And I
think that Joey was a super nice guy, like I,
I liked him, and so yeah, I didn't get to
follow the whole season, but I was excited about the
bones of it that I knew going into it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Liked The Bachelor too because it's much older. They're more
mature than I was thinking they were going with. When
they just said they were looking for, you know, people
for this show, I thought they were talking about people
like my age, you know, like everything on Bachelor's like
mid twenties to thirties, but really mid twenties. So I
thought they were trying to get like to forties to fifties.
(40:55):
So I was happy where they went because then that I,
like you said, it just it worked, wasn't it, Like
the highest rated viewers. I feel like I read that somewhere, you.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Know, the viewership went up, that's for sure for a
Golden Bachelor. And my thought was I have always advocated
for producers to pluck someone out of obscurity instead of
pulling a lead from a previous show because they have
a certain number of followers or whatever. And then all
(41:29):
of us can fall in love with the person together.
And that was exactly what happened, and in the best
way possible, because of course everyone's going to root for Gary,
who has a heart, you know, so much heartbreak after
losing his wife, and all of these women who many
of them have lost you know, husbands or partners, and so, yeah,
(41:51):
I loved the show. Gary was exactly what I feel
like the franchise needed. And from what I hear there
Golden Bachelorette too, so I think. So I haven't heard
like anything about who they're going to have. I have
a couple of favorites that I would I would love
(42:13):
to see, but but yeah, that would be exciting because
I do think that people root for these people who
have been through so much and can offer so much
wisdom and knowledge from their experiences, and that they don't
care about the bullshit. You know, they're just no drama, please,
(42:36):
like just let us like meet people and actually get
back to like the real reason that the show was started.
And you know, if I started it because it was
a television show and he thought it would be sellatious,
then that's one thing. But I always felt from the
beginning that it was truly a story about finding love.
(42:57):
And I think that's they got back to that for
Golden Bachelor for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I don't think of the same casting like they did
for Golden Bachelor for Golden Bachelor atte you know what
I mean. I hope there is about the casting.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah. Yeah, And I love that they're ladies back because
think about it, like when we were at the end
of our shows, We've got no one, like there's no
one to talk to about the producers who are obviously
trying to make a show that is their job. So
even though they're your friends, like they're not. So I
love that they're Golden Bachelor women back. Like on Joey's
season to talk to the girls, I literally cried. I
(43:32):
got teary eyed thing to the final girls because you
could see those girls needed that they needed like a person,
like a figure to come in and just like give
them advice or listen to any questions or concerns that
they had. And I was like, this is so amazing
for these girls because we need that, like girls, like
we're always bouncing stuff off each other, and that was
(43:53):
one of the hardest things for ours is like we
were scared to deaths to talk to anyone, even each.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Other, right, you know it's true, It's so true. We
did really only had the producers and like the psychologists
to talk to afterwards, if anyone even used a psychologist,
you know.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Did y'all? I know, Tristan, I did. How long was
that psychology quiz that we had to take forever?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I remember it being a lot of pages. I think
they've gotten away from that over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
They must, until they kid it still have that because
they needed even more these days. I feel like, you know,
just getting into trouble with different contestants, and yeah, the
society is just so litigious or relatigonists or whatever that
(44:47):
word is.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm excited for the Golden Bachelorette, now that you said that, Trista,
because honestly, it would make me so happy if they
bring a bunch of guys on there and they get
along the way that we got along in your season,
Because I mean, I honestly believe that that your season
was so great because you were obviously a wonderful lead
(45:10):
and the ending of course justifies everything. But we were
genuinely friends, Like I mean, I remember you know, I
filed this story a bunch, but I remember going places
and people would talk about Ryan and I'm like, uh, yeah,
Ryan was a professional football player, but no one knows
that he's the best athlete I've ever met in my life. Like,
but we all talked about each other like that, you
know what I mean, Like we were all you know,
(45:32):
and it was genuine And I would I would so
love to see that again. I would. I would. I'm
really excited for that. I hope they I hope they
casked the hell out of the shell.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
I agree, well, now that you bring that up thing
that like nowadays, I feel like they always put a
few people in there and they tell them just to
stir it up, like of course, same like Sydney this season.
I'm like Sydney just stopped like she's not doing anything bad,
and it was like it was just trying to make
something out of nothing. And I agree, like Trista, your guys,
(46:02):
like I don't feel like there was any of that,
Like there was no drama, just like everyone was there
to day they got along, you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
It was, And I can say honestly, like we really
and I and I I say we. I mean, I
guess the guys that I've cut in touch with over
the years genuinely wanted Trista to be happy, like so
it was you know, we would know, well, it's not us, God,
I hope it. Like I mean, I remember saying, I
hope it's Ryan, you know, because we like had our
(46:33):
little bunk beds in the same area, and like, you know,
he genuinely would be there writing stuff down in his
journal and it was like I loved it. You know,
it was poetry, but it was like it was like beautiful.
And I remember thinking to myself, like it's got to
be him, Like especially when I went home and I
knew who the final four guys were, and I was like, Okay,
it has to be Ryan, like please, it was Alert,
(46:57):
it was.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Shannon.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
We could talk to.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
You all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
All day.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
I missed y'all. We need to read what we need
to do. We need to take over the audience like
at one of these final roses.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
We need to get a great idea beat the whole Yes,
I have talked to Millsy, I have talked to Ben,
I've talked to all these people right about how we
need to have a readmion. We need to invite all
the people. Taking over the audience is a fantastic idea, Right,
I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to them.
Oh that's so fun. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
It's probably a good.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Time considering my doors being beat down by my two
year old right now.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Okay, we'll go get Blake and Shannon. Love you and
thank you so much for coming on. Almost Famous. O
Jeeves
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Another one on the label.
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody,
welcome to Almost Famous the Ogs. Bob Guiney here with
the beautiful Trista Stutter. Trista.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Who do we got on the show today?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We have Shannon Oliver, who I am so excited to
talk to. If you don't remember that name, she was
on the very first Bachelor with me. She was I
think we were roommates actually, and then she got to
be part of Bachelorette too, So we're gonna we're gonna
hear what's up with her, what's up with her life,
(00:33):
if she still watches the show, what she loved about
being on the show, all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
So excited.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I love Shannon, I know, same, same. So let's bring
in Shannon. Hi, Bob, how are you today? Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Sutter?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm great? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I like your new background.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Where are you? Where are you going from?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
This is my dining room, kitchen's over here, living room,
you know, just trying to change it up here she
has We've got she Oliver Oliver. Everybody, you don't age,
you don't don't.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Guys, stop it. I literally was trying to think back
to how old I was, and I was like, oh
my gosh, no, I can't. I can't even go that
far back.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was trying to back to how old I was.
I love the way you put that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I try to forget how old I am pretty much
daily and at my age, I do forget those things.
I forget where my car keys are, where my car is,
where I live.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Who I am?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
How old is your youngest?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
He is two and a half, he'll be three. Well,
I guess he's two and three quarters. He'll be three
in July.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Okay, so you win. You have the youngest child out
of all of us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm sure out of me for next week.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my gosh, I love it. You're born to be
a mom.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're so.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel like you are just such a great personality
and demeanor and temperament and everything to be such a
great mom.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My kids might disagree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No, So for those of you who do not remember,
Shannon was on the very first Bachelor season with me,
and we have remained friends since. She's actually come out
to Colorado with her family. I got to meet Did
I meet both boys?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Then?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Were they both born?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I just had Jack?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Okay? Yes, Okay, so we've stayed in touch, and as
I've said on here numerous times, I feel like the
connections to the people who have been on the show
are you know. I mean, obviously I met my husband
and that's pretty pretty amazing. But the connections that I
may have made with other people are you know, a
(02:47):
close second. And so that includes you obviously, Shannon. But
it's been a while. We haven't seen each other.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's been way too long. So funny, you know, schools
have mystery readers and so you always like take your
kid's favorite books up there. Jack always wants me to
take that book that you gave him and you had
like the artists like draw picture, sign it. That's when
I was a boy. When I was a boy, I dreamed.
Is what it's called speakers Now send it? Yes, Oh
(03:18):
my gosh, it's funny. I send that to almost everyone. Bob,
I have to send it to you too. I don't
know if I if I sent you one, obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Say I would say you didn't, because no one sends
me anything. As we've we've talked about this week. A
few times people come on the show and they were like,
you know, promoting their book, and Trista will go I
will tell you I read it. I love it. Thank
you so much for having sent it to me, autographed
with a five hundred dollars bill in it. And I'm like, well,
that's so weird because I I must have gotten left
(03:46):
off that mailing list again, got it?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
No, I this is not my book. This is just
a book that I sent to Shannon when she had
Jack so very nice, so I need to send you
to you. It's amazing. But that makes me so happy
that he picks book.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I love it, loves it. I mean still so Bob,
your kids would love it too. They're like, it's the
perfect ages for this book.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Love that they you know, I would love to have
something to read them, given the fact that today this
is going to show the shortcomings of me as a dad.
Uh you know, my wife's out of town. So I
had to get the voice ready for school this morning.
And it's Show and Tell day, and it always goes
by the alphabet, you know, and so Grace and.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Says Daddy, today's end.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And I'm like, oh, okay, en, And I'm looking around
the house and I.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I'm like, oh, here we go. Perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I threw a box and Nilla wafers in his bag
and I go this, this is excellent.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It kills two birds with one stone.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Buddy. You take this in, you hold it up, and
then you give it out.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
As your snack.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's true. She's going to be a hero for the day.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
This is how dad brains work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm like, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Either a fistful of Nichols or it's a Nilla.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Wafers Nickles, Well you mentioned it. Shannon was meant to
be a and has since after Jack had another boy.
She's a boy mom. But you do it so well
for anyone who wants another follow on Instagram. Follow Shannon
for all of her stuff, Like you not only work,
(05:15):
but you are like, go get her fundraiser. It seems
like either for school or community and super involved in
your school obviously mom and doing all the things at home.
How do you do it?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Asking me this and like behind my phone all I
see is like yellow and blue. It is a sea
of minions Cooper's birthday party. Like as a boy, I
wanted a girl, like I'm very girly all of everything,
gurly tea parties. And when I found out we were
pregnant with Jack, I actually cried. I cried sat tears
(05:52):
because he put the boy and not a girl, and
I'm like, I don't even the boy for me. I
got boys that let me indulge in all of my
party planning.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And they not.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Only let me indulge, but they embrace it. So Cooper's
turned into party diva. He like, so, Mom, what party
prep did you do last night? Granted, he's turning four
parties in a park and I feel like I should
have just rented out a venue at this point because
he keeps adding everything to it. We've got Minion's popsicles today,
(06:27):
he woke up and he was like, I want a
snowcone truck.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm like, we.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Already popsicles, we don't need a snowcone truck, and like,
but that would work on today, mom.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And I'm like, oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He said, what party prep have you done?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's talk.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Not my mom, No, Mom, it's like, what did you
do last night for my party?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
A little notebook? You know, Mom, I'm going over my
notes and the party prep seems to be lacking this year.
Uh that's funny, Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You know, my my my wife is a boy mom. Also,
of course, we have two boys.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And we're five and two and a half are the ages,
and she's kind of you know, I think I think
it sort of comes with the territory for people, because
you know, you you and she have very like similar
you know, very organized and very well like everything's put together,
and you know, just very sweet and kind people, and
(07:27):
so she is always.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
On the party uh planning tip as well.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that's why I felt like such a loser today
when I was like getting him ready for school and
I'm like, my wife would have had like a duffel
bag full of accouterments, and on snack day it would
not have been the show and tell item also being
dispersed as a snack. It would have been like, you know,
I don't know, it would have been nutella. If that's
even allowed in a school. I don't know, because I'm
a dad, right, but if it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Were not, probably not. It's something with any newt in it,
So not.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, Okay, So Shannon, you mentioned that you're you know,
a girly girl, and what I remember and I want
you to share one of your favorite memories from the Bachelor,
(08:19):
But one of the big things that I remember is
being in the living room of the Bachelor. I guess
the mansion that we lived in. It wasn't the mansion
that they have now, of course, but when we had
that and we got the date box. Back then it
was a date box, right, And we got a box
(08:39):
and all of us are huddled around this velvet, this
beautiful velvet. I don't I don't know if it was
a box or an envelope at this point, but it
had an HW on it and everyone is like, hwhw.
And I was like Harry starting, I'm figured it out,
and I was like, oh my gosh, who's going on
(09:00):
a date that revolves around Harry Winston? Ama Shannon. She
got the very first of anyone of anyone on a
franchise princess date. So amazing. That was one of my
favorite like memories, and of course I was super jealous.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Everyone was fair. That was an amazing date. And I think,
like you, and to come from such a different place
because everything was brand new, like we never knew what
was next. We literally had no clue and like you said,
you know it used to be a box, like yes,
you I remember for my overnight date. I think when
there was four of us left. I got this huge
(09:39):
gold box and it was full of like fake snow
and ear muffs. Like that's how they told us what
we were going to do, and now they get like
it's totally different. But I kept that stuff for the
longest time. I think I finally got I still have it?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I still have you? I have my Harry Winston box?
Because that was pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Where did you go you went to obviously you went
to Harry Winston, but didn't you get like dressed up
in dresses? Didn't you get to pick out a gown?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think it was a scatta. I don't even know
if that's still in business.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, Oh it was so much fun. Okay,
So what was one of your favorite memories from the show.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think, oh my gosh, I mean, to pick one
would be near impossible. But like you said, like it
was like we I don't even think, like now people
know what to expect, Like you have a total different
framework going into the show now than we did back then.
We didn't even know what was going to happen in
five minutes, let alone for the whole entire six weeks
(10:40):
that we were gone. I think is that we did
become friends in that environment. Now, I think it's easier
because they know the whole deal, Like the guy's gonna pick,
Like you are probably gonna go on Bachelor in Paradise
with most of the people in the house. You might
as well get to know them cause you're gonna have
be with them again.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like none of that.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So the fact that all of us became friends and
stayed friends, I think says a lot that you know,
we really just in it for the guy. Back then,
you're not in it trying to get Instagram followers, trying
to get like some you know, product sponsorships. Gosh, can
you imagine if that was around back then, Trista, you'd
be like a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I know, right, we would if you So when when
Sally Anne later went on to create Jersey Shore, and
I remember saying to her one time, I was like,
if you would have monetized us the way you monetized
the Jersey Shore people, we would all.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Be in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It was crazy, but yeah, you're absolutely right. No, there
was there was no social media back then. What would
we have done?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, you know, and even the whole like remember, Trista,
do you remember this? Like we had a notebook and
we passed the notebook secretly around and everyone wrote their
phone numbers in it so we could Yes, I think
I still have that. Actually, ill to go.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Oh my gosh, I want to see it.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So I remember afterwards like it was very weird. They're like,
you can't talk to anyone about this, like no one can,
and they threatened, like they threatened us to like our
lives ending if we told anyone. So I was there
to even tell my family, and I Trista and I
became friends, and I was like, I'm just going to
reach out to Trista.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have her phone number.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
No one knew I had her phone number, so I
called and I left a message on your answering machine
because we didn't even have help.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We are so, oh my gosh, you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I I can picture it right now too, my answering machine.
That is so funny.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think that maybe it was your mom or someone
her message and they told Legal that I had reached out,
and Legal called me and they were like, maybe it
wasn't your mom some somehow.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Like my mom wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But no, it wasn't your mom, but maybe they told
me was your mom, because you know how how that works,
so like we know, yeah, right, so they were threatening
me with legal action, and now I feel everyone to talk.
They want little spoilers to get out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I know, I remember that that time was so different.
I mean I was right after you guys, and of course,
you know, I got a little bit of legal wrangling
for having a record deal. When I went on the show,
I already had a record deal. And now they bring
people on there and they're like, you know, Serenader with
your guitar, Jimmy and all these guys go on the
(13:35):
show and they're like all of a sudden, and I'm like,
I didn't even sing on the show, Like what are
guys talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I didn't know you got in trouble for that or like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well you can talk offline about that one, but it
was major.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I have no Well that is it's a different, totally
different show, totally different.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
With social they don't even take the phones away. Now
they want everyone posting, you know, if they're on a
group date and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, but I think I think they still take their
phones away, because I just read that Maria, who was
on Joey's season, this most recent one, she was asked
to be bachelorette and she one of her demands was
who knows if this is srue or not? Of course right,
So one of her demands supposedly was that she wanted
(14:24):
to keep her phone. So I know that they they
take away their phones, but what they do is they
give them or producers take pictures with their phones, or
they get like I don't know if they get like
some kind of like disposable or something like that where
they have them take pictures. I know, I know that much.
They definitely don't have their phones, but what they do
(14:45):
have is direct access to everybody who has an Instagram account,
because all you have to do is DM somebody and
you can read and you can look out. So we
had no way of getting in touch with each other
except for writing and in our little Oh my gosh,
(15:06):
that is hysterical. So do you think, Shannon, that you
would be able because I have been asked this question
if social media had been around back then, would I've
still done the show? And I don't know if I
would have because I am so super freaking sensitive that
I don't know that I could take all of the
judgment that strangers just like to spew, you know, what's up.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
For the message boards? ABC used to have like chat boards,
and that broke me. And I can't remember's name. Shoot,
I'm totally blinking. I could have told you if I
wasn't trying to tell you. But anyway, I was like
taking me the airport. She was like, whatever you do,
just don't get online and don't read like message boards.
(15:53):
Just don't read them. She was like, stay away from them.
Of course, then I got home, like.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What's the best. That's what I did too. They're like,
don't look at the message boards.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I dove in beside, I didn't even know there was
a message.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Human worship you're going to do that?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And Shannon, if you're anything like like I know, Tristan,
I've had this conversation before. But you would see like
a million nice things, right, and you'd be like, oh,
that's nice, that's nice. Then one person would be like,
you know, I don't like her.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Banks, what are wrong with my banks?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You know? Or like for me it would be like
I don't like his laugh, What the hell was wrong
with my laugh. I can't change my laugh. I mean,
it was like I would obsess about the mean stuff
and not even recognize all the nice stuff, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, one hundred percent, which is so sad. It's those
little tiny and then my caps were fat. I mean
just like it's like, okay, but you and now looking back, obviously,
like we were all a lot younger when we did this,
and that felt you felt it a lot more. I
don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Older.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Now I have like a bigger reference point. I've got children,
like I feel differently about things in life than but
that was all I had back then.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And like you said before, there was nothing like it previously.
So it's the first time that someone I mean, I
remember having this conversation with a friend of mine who
was on was one of the executive editors of US Weekly,
and they would just do all these kind of like
what we would now call clickbait, right, but they would
like make statements on the cover and I'm back to
my normal life. You know. The show hasn't even aired yet,
(17:24):
and I'm like, you know, at Kroger and I'm like
seeing a cover of a magazine with my face on it,
and they're like saying mean things about me. I'm like,
what what's going on? You know, you weren't ready to
be plucked from obscurity and then all of a sudden
be someone who is being put under a magnifying glass
and just dissected.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
By all these people behind a keyboard. You know, It's
just it was tough. You weren't prepared.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, and now girls have a problem with like something
that happens or the format of the show. I'm like,
well you should know better, like what are we on,
like season twenty eight or something.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Don't be stupid and don't act like you've never in
the show.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I didn't. I didn't know I was going to come
on and someone else.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But you're not going to do your research and actually
watch the show before, even if you've never watched it before.
You're not applying to be on the show if you've
never watched it before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Absolutely Yeah. And you know the way it works too.
You know there's thirty people dating the same dude or
thirty guys dating.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The same girl for that first night.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's like, come on, man, you know, and if you
can't handle it, but you know what, I think that's
a play too, though, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I think a lot of these people go on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And say that so they get the attention for it,
and then they you know, now they're like, okay, and
now now I've got something to you know, beat the
drum too. I'm the first one that said it, just
like the whole you know, I'm not here to make
friends thing became a thing right and it was like all.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's like, what are you there for? Like what are
the right reasons they go on a dating game show?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean, you're there to potentially meet somebody, but ultimately,
wouldn't it be great to meet thirty people from across
the country that you would have never met otherwise?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Awesome?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I like, yeah, that's my favorite part from ours is
like us because we still have that. I still tell
a lot from the first season and I don't feel
I mean, now how many people have been on The Bachelor,
like eight million, because there's been so many, but someone
understood and you could never understand if you hadn't itself.
(19:22):
And so we had aized together, you know, like we
went through the situation that no one would get if
you hadn't done it. So I think that helped us
like bond together too, because we got it, like and
we got the mean messages and oh my gosh, like
all those auction like the Bachelor auctions that they would
do after the show. Yeah, well maybe you didn't because
(19:46):
you went right onto the Bachelorette. But for those of
us who weren't, like they would, like Chris Harrison's mom
even did one where you would go and someone would
pay a lot of money to this charity and then
y'all would go on like a group dinner together like
it wasn't any.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, did you do that?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
We I met a ton of people from the other
seasons after us, from those because they would do like us,
and then the second season us in the.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Third season, so that like and it put on by
ABC people, by the producers, like they would coordinate it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It was put on by like charities people trying to
raise money.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay, yeah, that's great. They should do that now. I mean,
the charities would make a whole lot of money if
they did that with all kinds of reality shows.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They'd make a lot more now than because there was
no way to really promote them before. It was just
like locals, you know, for the people who would write yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I mean, I
know that we had little reunions like Jesse Sinsak, I
feel like planned so many of those, and I feel
like we went to a couple right you did, didn't
you go?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It was a Colorado RT your person rage right.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yes, and we had the spa day and then the chef.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh my gosh, wasn't there one on a cruise ship?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I remember there being one on a cruise ship that
I wanted to go on and I couldn't go.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh yeah, plenty of that.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I think there was.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I feel like multiple, yeah, right, Oh my gosh, that's
so yeah. Who do you still stay in touch with?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I had to like scan my brain. I'm like, Jesse,
who's Jesse?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I know, Jesse the honest person. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think he did one in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We did well. The first one was in Vegas. I
remember the first one. That's when I met That's when
I met you, Shannon was.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I met everybody at that first one in Vegas at
the hard Rock you met.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
She met you on my season?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh no, I know, but it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Was this was while I was off the Bachelorette. But
the Bachelor your season of the wait. I was, oh,
that's right, I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Because you were not you. We like, you weren't part
of Bachelor Nation until my season. So he doesn't remember
or has it watched it in a long time. They
let me, and I feel like they should still do
this to this day. This is like my biggest advice
to them is to have friends come in for the
lead and help them through it. So it was Sarah,
(22:20):
my best friend from college, mis see my best friend
from grad school Shannon, and oh gosh, who am I missing?
There was Oh no that it was just the three
of you guys, remember, then came in and got to
like pick out dates and hang out in the house. Right,
you guys, did you live in the house with the boys?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't think so, I feel they did.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
We didn't know where they were because we I mean
I remember thinking, I remember thinking, I wonder where they
all went, because I thought we thought you went back
to download.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So late at night, and we were like, like you
were gone on a date, but we were there like
partying with the rest of the guys because something with
dog food.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you know Jamie blythe Jamie Yeah, that was Oh
my god, that is the Faithful Night when Tricia the
faithful Night, I guess it would be when Trista came
home and was mad at me, and that was because
they made me. So we played the Sentry Club and
we were all doing one hundred shots of beer in
a hundred minutes, and Text threw his first can up
(23:25):
on the roof because we had that kind of like
weird roof, and so we all started throwing the cans
on the roof, and then as Trista's pulling up, they
come up to me. They throw an apron on me,
hand me a broom and a ladder, and they go,
you got to go on the roof and clean all
the cans up. I'm like I do, and I'm like, yeah, God,
I didn't throw any cansler. They're like, it's okay, you're
it was your idea for this party. So I go
on the roof. I'm sweeping cans off. I still have
(23:47):
on my bathing suit and apron, and Trista comes in
and she's like, hmm, why is it when I go
on a date and you and I'd been on a
group date with her. I come back and everyone was
like asleep and reading the Bible and I go on
a date without you and I come back and it's
a frat party gone sideways, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Like, what what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Like they totally set me up to take the fall.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I remember it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm like, hey, no, I was not mad. I couldn't.
I couldn't have been mad at that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You were you were you were giggling through it, and
that's why I knew, like I knew, you know, And
I'm like, okay, all right, I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, I wouldn't be mad at you for that. I'd
love And then when my friends got to come in
and actually like hang out with you, and give me
the scoop because they hung out with you. It wasn't
like at your house, you know. It wasn't like they
were coming in just being present at like a bar
that they had a date at. Like you guys got
(24:45):
to really truly like get to know them, which I love.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
It was so interesting though. So we went in and
we legit like we interviewed every guy there well, and
we were like, we were like, We'resa's future husband. So
we we had big pow wows. We talked about all
the guys and we figured out the ones that we
wanted to go on, like the one on ones with you,
(25:13):
and then we went back and told the producers and
they're like like, no, you shouldn't send her with that one.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, do you remember who it was?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh? I mean that was like twenty years ago, so no,
I'm not remembering something that they said that he said
something while he was in the bathroom and they heard
it on his mic, like he was there to promote
his music career or something.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But we never do you remember that? Yeah, Greg, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Greg, Thank you, Bob. Yeah, So we were going to
pick him as one of your guys to go on
one time and.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They're like, uh huh, don't pick So he was the
one that went. We went to New York. I'm trying
to find a picture of the four of us. Was
one that was in New York a tiny, small apartment
and everyone like made a big deal out of it
when like, honestly, it wasn't like that big of a
deal because we were we were young, he was living
(26:17):
in New York, he was a musician, like whatever, It
was not a big deal. But of course they made
a huge deal out of it, and they were like, oh,
Trista has to have like more than a teeny tiny
apartment with the whatever I'm like, don't make me out
to be high maintenance when I'm not. Okay, this is
this was I don't know if you can see it,
(26:39):
but on my fortieth birthday. Remember look at that advice
look out that was during the show. And then this
was in my mansion. I think you guys came over
to the mansion the girls here it is, Yes, it
(27:00):
is in the mansion. Remember those like flowers that they
had everywhere? Look at the floors, do you remember the floors?
Did this bring you back?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Bob?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And like the red Belty, Oh my gosh, isn't that amazing?
And my big long hair extensions.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You like showed us your wardrobe and I was like Christa,
and it was of clothes.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was amazing. And then they sold them. But we
don't have to talk about that anyway. So we've talked
enough about my season. I would love to know, like,
how how is life, how is justin? How is life
with the boys? What does your daily life look like?
And what are you up to?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
It's honestly, it's so great. Like I joke about wanting
a girl so bad and being sad. But I was
meant to be a boy mom, Like these kids are
like they're my world. And and I think if I
had a girl, it would have been bad news, Like
I would have been like the worst helicopter mom over
a girl. But with the boys, you just have to
let them go. I mean, you have one of those.
(28:11):
So every kid is different, but boys are wild and
they need to be free, and that's probably better for me.
Otherwise I would be like right there like all the time. Yeah,
my boys, Oh bye, you stay here, we're going. But
it's great, Justin it's funny. So Ryan's out of town,
Bob's wives out of town, and Justin's out of town.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They're all well, really good work. But yeah he's out
of the cops. Yes, we're all seeing with parents.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, all parenting. But it's great. We live in this
tiny little community that is like Pleasantville. It's just great.
Like there's I'm sure, like you were saying on social media.
We've got huge events for Easter and Halloween and Christmas,
I mean every holiday. And it's just great for me
to be somewhere where my kids can just like have
(29:04):
a place to just enjoy life. You know, I tell
him all the time, you only how lucky you are
to live here with all of this like fun. It's
just fun, like everything fun.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Is this the house that flooded and you fixed it
up because your house got demolished and the yes, what
was that like Harvey?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
What year was it? That was probably six years ago
or seven. That was during Harvey. So we just had Jack.
He was like ten months old. We lived in a
little nineteen sixties like cute little house that we loved,
but it needed more space. Like the laundry room was
in a closet. I was like, I need like a
room like with a kid, you know, couldn't like for
(29:57):
us to do the clothes. So we were going to
add on a laundry room and then a room for
Jack on top of it. And we moved out on Monday.
Harvey hit Friday. Our househouse that we had just moved
out of, flooded that Saturday. The next day, our rental
house that we moved into flooded Wednesday. And then we
had a weekend cabin on a river like an hour south.
(30:19):
But all of the floodwater from Houston flooded down the river,
So then that house flooded the following friday. So we
had three houses flood in one week.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Stop it. I don't remember like all you were going through,
but that is so much, so much crazy. And Jack,
was you feel like it made your your marriage stronger?
Or did you guys stroll in those times? You honestly
like situations like that will make or break you. And
if we had only house flood.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
We may not abade it. But we had three, and
we had to find somewhere to live, and we had
to like we were constantly like working on everything, and
so you just had to like put your head down.
And the hardest thing about that was my neighborhood over
ninety percent of the house is flooded because we back
up to it. By you were just like a bunch
of cold desat by you, and so just got to
(31:13):
the next neighborhood up they didn't flood, And so it's
like our world was turned upside down, but all of
your friends and everyone that you know just went back
to normal really quickly. That was the hardest part, was
like being in this like devastating place, but like just
if you literally went like five houses north of where
(31:35):
we are, everything was normal. So it was a rough
couple of years just with the newborn and trying to
figure out where to live. We moved. I think we
moved five or six times and three years.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that place that the places that
flooded are no longer yours, like you you're completely yeah,
got it. I'm sorry. Just his internet just went out,
so I know, be back.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
So this house like where this was, that's where our
house was, but it was completely totaled. So we had
the structure to do the add on. And he came
back after and our wood floors like they peaked up
when they swelled, but they also pushed out, so they
pushed our exterior walls off the slab and then all
the brick collapsed because there was nothing underneath to hold
(32:26):
the brick up.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So you completely like just leveled it and started over.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, we had he said, the head left was the slab.
But I'm like, if we're rebuilding, we're not building at
this level, Like we're gonna build up so where the
flood was just in case, and I don't think we'll
ever flood again. Harvey was just a crazy, crazy like
probably once in a lifetime storm, but if you've got
to spend redo it. We just built up.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But they're good.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Your home looks beautiful from where we are, and I'm
sure it's beautiful everywhere else with all of the Minion
stuff everywhere.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Like die if you saw what I see right now.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love it. I love it. We actually had a
Minion party for Max when he was I don't know,
probably around Jack's age. So much fun, so much Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
That Denver, Like, how is Denver? I haven't moved?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, we did. So. Ryan was commuting from Vail to
Denver for three years, I think, and that you know
that drive because you've done it before, but it's like
a two hour drive and it was a lot. And
then Max asked he wanted to change schools just to
have an elevated academic and athletic experience. And we go
(33:51):
to a they're at a Christian school now and they've
got you know, the faith based stuff, which is really
kind of like makes my mom's heart just feel good
about the education they're getting because I've kind of failed
them as a as a Christian mom. I just, you know,
I don't know about you guys, but I grew up Catholic,
(34:12):
and I went to Sunday school every Sunday, right, and
and just learned a lot. Well, I just I didn't
do a lot of that for my kids. So the
fact that they're learning kind of more really about just
how to be a good person, you know, makes my
heart happy, makes me feel good place. So for a
(34:33):
lot of reasons. All of those. Plus Ryan's parents live
like five minutes away from us, and so we wanted
to be nearer them as they get a little bit older.
There's a great dance studio for Blakesley. Just lots of
opportunity and lots of targets. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So you're shopping a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yes, And the mall, I mean we didn't have those
in Vail.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, I would forget like five minutes before I logged
in here.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's in there.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's an amazing convenience to have. So for lots of
good reasons. But yeah, it's going well. We of course
miss the mountains, but we're hoping to get back there
at some point and just you know, visit our friends
whenever we can. So yeah, it's good, it's good. I
have to visit. The next time you're coming through, make
sure you come. Just let me know if you're flying
(35:33):
into Denver, because I'd love to sk you, I know,
and I.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Expears to become a hotbed for bachelor people too.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
True. Yes, there are a lot of people. Ben Higgins
is here. He's not in Denver proper anymore, but he's here.
And then Blake's uh Portsman I think is his last name.
He just had a baby. I heard with Gianna from
Organ from Love Is Blind. Have you guys watch that show?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, I've never seen the show, but I've met Gannina
and Blake, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, so there here I have I knowl Lace is here.
She just had a baby too late. Lace had a baby.
Yeah yeah, I saw her when she was pregnant. We
did this jewelry store like photo shoot thing and uh,
(36:30):
she was there and she was about ready to pop.
She looked beautiful. Yes, good. So do you still watch
the show, Shannon?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Of course? I mean, don't we all. It's like, once
you're in, you've gotta like just it's like you're in
for life.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I know a lot of people don't feel that way.
But especially like this season, I feel like probably got
people back on on boat. Like Mollie Mesnik. She has
specifically said she met Joey at the Golden Wedding and
she watched her his season because she met him, and
(37:11):
then she's like, now I'm hooked, Like this was a
great season to get I meet.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Him at the I didn't meet Joey at the Golden Wedding.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I knew you were going to say that he he
will not let this go. Like literally, Shannon, did you
meet Joey at the Golden Wedding?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Because I didn't meet him.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I didn't. Yeah, we all everyone but you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I almost didn't say it, like I was like, I
shouldn't even say it because he's just gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
It was just the best response ever though, Oh yeah,
we all met him. Yeah he's lovely, love him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Dormy's my new favorite guy.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
But what you were true, I feel like for a while,
like obviously in the beginning, none of us knew what
we were doing and we didn't know this show, and
they throw some but then it just went like off
the rails with like remember the Chicken Lover, Like no
nobody really even had jobs. Everybody was just and now
(38:14):
like all of these girls, especially on Joey's in the
last few seasons, it's kind of going back to that
where everyone remember Trista, like for our season you had
to they were looking for professionals, like with professor jobs
that had focused on their careers and not focused on love,
and then it just went the opposite end of that.
And now I feel like they're going back like everybody
(38:34):
was working and you know, normal, they had good jobs,
and you know, I feel like it went back the
basics a bit agreed.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think that may have been influenced by The Golden Bachelor, though,
like Tristan and I talked about that, Like the one
thing about the Golden Bachelor was that it went back
to the basics exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, obviously we all watched that and you all went
to the wedding, some of us did.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
That's that he was joking about it. He's he has
a vendetta still that he didn't get all.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I was invited and then they called me back and
they're like, actually, Bob, we have to cancel your imitation
because Trip does a plus three. I'm like, what, it's.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Not true, that's not true. Do you dream about my children.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm totally teasing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
No, you know, I did not get invited to that one.
And but I love teasing Trista because you know, it'll
come up and she's like, oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Such a great wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But I but I will say this about the show
and I and I've said this a lot, I was
worried about the Golden Bachelor because I thought, given our
experiences and what we know, I thought they were going
to be like stunt casting, you know what I mean.
Like I thought they were going to throw a couple
of cougars in there to to mix it up. And
I was really not happy about it until I saw
the casting, and then I was so happy because it
(39:53):
was age appropriate and it wasn't sensationalized, and it wasn't
a bunch of you know, people coming in there just
to stir it up. And I really liked Gary and
I you know, I was happy about the whole thing,
and I think it got us back to the roots
of the show. And so I feel like for Joey's season,
I think that that was actually kind of awesome that
(40:13):
it was like, like Shannon said, a bunch of people
who had jobs and were focused on finding love. And
you know, I thought that was really cool. And I
think that Joey was a super nice guy, like I,
I liked him, and so yeah, I didn't get to
follow the whole season, but I was excited about the
bones of it that I knew going into it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Liked The Bachelor too because it's much older. They're more
mature than I was thinking they were going with. When
they just said they were looking for, you know, people
for this show, I thought they were talking about people
like my age, you know, like everything on Bachelor's like
mid twenties to thirties, but really mid twenties. So I
thought they were trying to get like to forties to fifties.
(40:55):
So I was happy where they went because then that I,
like you said, it just it worked, wasn't it, Like
the highest rated viewers. I feel like I read that somewhere, you.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Know, the viewership went up, that's for sure for a
Golden Bachelor. And my thought was I have always advocated
for producers to pluck someone out of obscurity instead of
pulling a lead from a previous show because they have
a certain number of followers or whatever. And then all
(41:29):
of us can fall in love with the person together.
And that was exactly what happened, and in the best
way possible, because of course everyone's going to root for Gary,
who has a heart, you know, so much heartbreak after
losing his wife, and all of these women who many
of them have lost you know, husbands or partners, and so, yeah,
(41:51):
I loved the show. Gary was exactly what I feel
like the franchise needed. And from what I hear there
Golden Bachelorette too, so I think. So I haven't heard
like anything about who they're going to have. I have
a couple of favorites that I would I would love
(42:13):
to see, but but yeah, that would be exciting because
I do think that people root for these people who
have been through so much and can offer so much
wisdom and knowledge from their experiences, and that they don't
care about the bullshit. You know, they're just no drama, please,
(42:36):
like just let us like meet people and actually get
back to like the real reason that the show was started.
And you know, if I started it because it was
a television show and he thought it would be sellatious,
then that's one thing. But I always felt from the
beginning that it was truly a story about finding love.
(42:57):
And I think that's they got back to that for
Golden Bachelor for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I don't think of the same casting like they did
for Golden Bachelor for Golden Bachelor atte you know what
I mean. I hope there is about the casting.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah. Yeah, And I love that they're ladies back because
think about it, like when we were at the end
of our shows, We've got no one, like there's no
one to talk to about the producers who are obviously
trying to make a show that is their job. So
even though they're your friends, like they're not. So I
love that they're Golden Bachelor women back. Like on Joey's
season to talk to the girls, I literally cried. I
(43:32):
got teary eyed thing to the final girls because you
could see those girls needed that they needed like a person,
like a figure to come in and just like give
them advice or listen to any questions or concerns that
they had. And I was like, this is so amazing
for these girls because we need that, like girls, like
we're always bouncing stuff off each other, and that was
(43:53):
one of the hardest things for ours is like we
were scared to deaths to talk to anyone, even each.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Other, right, you know it's true, It's so true. We
did really only had the producers and like the psychologists
to talk to afterwards, if anyone even used a psychologist,
you know.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Did y'all? I know, Tristan, I did. How long was
that psychology quiz that we had to take forever?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I remember it being a lot of pages. I think
they've gotten away from that over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
They must, until they kid it still have that because
they needed even more these days. I feel like, you know,
just getting into trouble with different contestants, and yeah, the
society is just so litigious or relatigonists or whatever that
(44:47):
word is.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm excited for the Golden Bachelorette, now that you said that, Trista,
because honestly, it would make me so happy if they
bring a bunch of guys on there and they get
along the way that we got along in your season,
Because I mean, I honestly believe that that your season
was so great because you were obviously a wonderful lead
(45:10):
and the ending of course justifies everything. But we were
genuinely friends, Like I mean, I remember you know, I
filed this story a bunch, but I remember going places
and people would talk about Ryan and I'm like, uh, yeah,
Ryan was a professional football player, but no one knows
that he's the best athlete I've ever met in my life. Like,
but we all talked about each other like that, you
know what I mean, Like we were all you know,
(45:32):
and it was genuine And I would I would so
love to see that again. I would. I would. I'm
really excited for that. I hope they I hope they
casked the hell out of the shell.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
I agree, well, now that you bring that up thing
that like nowadays, I feel like they always put a
few people in there and they tell them just to
stir it up, like of course, same like Sydney this season.
I'm like Sydney just stopped like she's not doing anything bad,
and it was like it was just trying to make
something out of nothing. And I agree, like Trista, your guys,
(46:02):
like I don't feel like there was any of that,
Like there was no drama, just like everyone was there
to day they got along, you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
It was, And I can say honestly, like we really
and I and I I say we. I mean, I
guess the guys that I've cut in touch with over
the years genuinely wanted Trista to be happy, like so
it was you know, we would know, well, it's not us, God,
I hope it. Like I mean, I remember saying, I
hope it's Ryan, you know, because we like had our
(46:33):
little bunk beds in the same area, and like, you know,
he genuinely would be there writing stuff down in his
journal and it was like I loved it. You know,
it was poetry, but it was like it was like beautiful.
And I remember thinking to myself, like it's got to
be him, Like especially when I went home and I
knew who the final four guys were, and I was like, Okay,
it has to be Ryan, like please, it was Alert,
(46:57):
it was.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Shannon.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
We could talk to.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
You all day, all day.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
All day.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
I missed y'all. We need to read what we need
to do. We need to take over the audience like
at one of these final roses.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
We need to get a great idea beat the whole Yes,
I have talked to Millsy, I have talked to Ben,
I've talked to all these people right about how we
need to have a readmion. We need to invite all
the people. Taking over the audience is a fantastic idea, Right,
I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to them.
Oh that's so fun. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
It's probably a good.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Time considering my doors being beat down by my two
year old right now.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Okay, we'll go get Blake and Shannon. Love you and
thank you so much for coming on. Almost Famous. O
Jeeves
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Another one on the label.
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