May 2, 2024 • 15 mins
Ben and Ashley break down the latest Bachelor Nation headlines, both on and off the Stagecoach grounds.
We dive deep into the drama around the theory that Nick Viall and Ashley teamed up with Sydney to make a villain out of Maria! Don’t worry… Ashley will set the record straight.
Plus, would Ben ever get a vasectomy??
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's time for Bachelor headlines. We got a lot of
headlines this week, some big ones kind of coming across
all of our twitters or news channels. The first one
is obviously this week, I should preface with saying that.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Nick and Natalie got married.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
There's gonna be no headlines today about that because we
have a whole separate episode kind of covering that wedding
and all the things that happened behind the scenes. So
go back and listen to that if you want to
hear more about Nick and Natalie's wedding that just happened
this past weekend. Along with their wedding, Stage Coach was
happening and some you know, Bachelor other reality show crossover
(00:49):
moments happened at Stage Coach this year. Ashley tell us
about it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well, we saw that Tyler Cameron was there and he
was catching up with Maria from this past season, who
also did her first big interview this week, and we're
getting some headlines about that interview. We'll get to that later.
But Tyler was also supposed to be at well, he
(01:15):
was invited to Nick and Natalie's wedding he was unable
to attend for I believe a business commitment that he
had at Stagecoach. Also, Daisy Kent was there and she
was there with her new boyfriend who was actually a
former flame. His name is Thor Thor. The dude's name
(01:38):
is Thor. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
His solid name, solid name.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So maybe we'll get more from Daisy about that soon.
We also saw Joey and Kelsey there and Jason Tarctic
with wow Us Weekly kind of messed up here. He
called Kat strict Tickler his fiance. I would say they
are not engaged, but his I think we can safely
(02:03):
say girlfriend now Kat Stickler TikTok Star. Yeah, they were
seen kissing, so I think we could call that thing official.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That kind of leads us into the next headline. The
Jason Tarctic Cat Strickler rumor had been kind of floating
around for a while now. People were speculating that they
were kind of dating. So just for people that are
unfamiliar with Cat, she's popular on TikTok. She has a
(02:35):
four year old daughter, I believe, and she's known Ashley
for her kind of comedic takes on life experiences. Motherhood
kind of her own life.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Correct, Yes, so my sister filled me in a little
bit on her. But she kind of came to fame
on TikTok during COVID and it was a lot of
family content between her husband and their newborn baby, and
they ended up getting divorced and like being like, hey, actually,
even though we do funny tiktoks here, we're getting divorced.
(03:11):
So there was that, and now she's been hanging out
with a lot of Bachelor alum alongside Jason. Like, maybe
you ben have gone to dinner with her once.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I might have. Yes, I think I did. I think
I saw this one coming.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, we did get to see the two of
them together, and hey, it's not my place to come
out and announce relationships until they're ready, and so this
is obviously a moment where they're ready because they're going
out in public now. They seem very happy, very curious
about each other when we were at dinner.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But maybe you know this. Did they meet on the
podcast because he did a podcast episode with her. I
know that he just recently put out an Instagram reel
with that podcast, But I think the podcast episode dropped
a month or so ago.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He banks episodes ahead of time, and I was just
wondering because you know, that's how you met Caitlin through
a podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Wow, what a channel.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So some people slide into dms and some people just
you know, have them on a pod.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And ask them a bunch of questions and say, hey,
I'm actually more curious about you. Can I take you
to dinner tonight?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know actually how they met. I did get
to sit beside the two of them, but she was
on the other side of Jason, and I was kind
of catching up with Jason, and I do know at
that time they were not ready to be public.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah. I would say that they've probably been together for
like three to four months.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Wow, So I'll wait, is that cross that?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Mean late February is when they were starting that they
were seen on that vacation together.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I guess if you're going on vacation with somebody, probably, yeah,
you're probably interested. When Kaitlin and Jason break up July.
It's almost been a year since they broke up. Yeah, goodness, gracious,
I can't keep up with all this all the time.
This is why I got you. I'm good calendar and
you're a good calendar. Speaking of TikTok, actually, I was
(05:04):
scrolling on TikTok and saw an interesting TikTok about Jason
Ritter and his you know wife. It's a really funny TikTok.
Have you seen it?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, But I know that Jason Ritter and Melanie Lynsky
are big Bachelor fans. Jared has met them Mountain event
and so that they were like the sweetest and they
were the one that came up to him and they
were all like, well, I love the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. Yeah. So here's the story.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
She is claiming that she didn't know she was engaged
to Jason when they first got engaged. The TikTok talks
about how she went to this jewelry store and saw
this ring. She loved the ring, but she said it
looked too like wedding ringish, engagement ringish, so she didn't
buy it. She went home and they were watching The Bachelor,
and he pauses The Bachelor in the middle of it,
(05:50):
she said, and hands her this ring that she had
just seen its jewelry store, but doesn't say anything kind
of about it, and she's like, thank you, this is
a really nice ring. And they start watching The Bachelor again. Well,
a couple of days later, they're going to a family
reunion and at this family party, Jason starts introducing her
(06:15):
as his fiance and she's like, I did not know
we were engaged. She's like, he thought he proposed to
me in that moment. I don't think he did, and
so they kind of had to do a rough redo.
So a couple things from this their Bachelor fans ciz
are I mean, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
It's really funny. If you haven't seen it, go out
there and look at it. It's great.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That is so funny. What was he thinking in the
middle of a Bachelor episode just to like a hand
her or ring and no speech, no will you marry me?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I like the idea that The Bachelor was like, he
was like, Hey, how should I do this?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And how do I do it in a sweet way?
Let's do it during the Bachelor.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean that's probably what he thought. He was like,
Oh the show talk romance for me.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't know. Well, it's a funny story.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, next headline is this Bachelor lum Arileindyke admits he
rushed into getting a vasectomy.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
This is so interesting because the last time I talked
to them, they were so done with kids. But during
a recent Q and A, Lauren was asked whether or
not she'd want more kids, and she said, well, Ari
did have a vasectomy over a year ago, but now
i feel like we rushed it a bit. I'm not
sure that I'm done yet. So, you know, the second
(07:38):
mes are supposed to be relatively easy to reverse. Sometimes
there's about.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One of them, not only get two of them.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh my gosh, could you imagine oh getting a sectamy
having to reverse it?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You guys are babies. I don't think that you're pretty
much totally not.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I have no problem admitting that I'm a baby, but
the idea of it just absolutely terrifies me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I honestly don't really know what the procedure looks like.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I have an idea, well, I have an idea in
my head. I also had a couple buddies get them
and have really bad experiences. I have a couple that
have really good experience. If I have one body who
is like laid up for a week afterwards because things
didn't go according to plan, and that just scares me. Actually,
I don't know it just like makes it makes me tingle.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It should make you tingle.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Do you know where the incision point is?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah? I do, at least with my buddy, I do.
It's under the.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Pubic bone or said by the balls.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I guess down there. Yeah, it's down there underneath. I
think we call it underneath.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I called it the undercarriage. I don't know what other
people call it. I don't know the medical term.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, you know our he might be going back to
the office.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That would be wild, good for him. That seems like
a YouTube video waiting to happen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, final headline of the day is bachelor.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Actually, actually, don't say final. We definitely have to talk
about those Maria tiktoks Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Next headline is this Bachelor Nation's Haley Ferguson gives birth
the baby number one with husband Oola.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yes, so for so. Hailey was very open about her
struggles with infertility there. This first child is a dream
come true, as she said via IVF. And the baby's
name is a baby's name? Is is it lovey Lousy?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Louv. I think it's Louis l.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
U v I Levine Paul ve, which is very nice, beautiful,
very nice said you know the he said, you're the
love that we've always known was coming. The baby was
born over the weekend, I believe, because she posted this
welcome to the World post on Monday.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Congratulations to the two of them, welcoming new life into
this world. Final headline of today is Maria has been
on Call Her Daddy. That's been a big thing within
Bachelor Nation. Call Her Daddy is a huge podcast and
not many from Bachelor Nation have been a part of
the recording. It kind of has swept i'd say, Bacheloration
(10:34):
by storm, just the fact that Maria was going on
and she's telling her story. Tiktoks have now been released
kind of about the episode.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And the juicy parts of the episode.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, so Ashley tell us more.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, Okay, so she has this strange theory that like
me and Nick were in on trying to create a
villain out of Maria. So no, I didn't even know
who Maria was beforehand, but she has this conspiracy theory
(11:11):
that Nick and I got together with Sydney. We brought
Sydney to production and we're like, hey, this is our friend.
Sydney she'd be great to take down the villain or
something of this season. I actually is kind of she
needs to explain her theory a little bit better. But
the reasoning that she had, the reason that she had
(11:31):
a little suspicion was just because there's a picture of Sidney,
Nick and I from I think September twenty twenty two
when Nick came to Audrey's for his book signing and
then Sydney was Audrey's social media coordinator and she took
a picture with Nick, quick picture. Don't even know that.
(11:52):
Oh yeah, we took her. We took Nick and Natalie
to her vintage store in Newport. May have taken a
picture there, who knows, But that was it. Nick and
Sidney had not spoken and have not spoken since this
event in September twenty twenty two. He has absolutely no
relationship with Sidney. So if you're wondering why the heck
(12:15):
and Nick would care about bringing Maria down in any way,
Supposedly the two of them spoke in like a flirty
way years and years ago before she he and Natalie
were together. It was like dming. I don't know if
they ever met in real life, but that's why Nick
was like, Oh, this girl Maria is going on the
(12:36):
going on the show. She's such a villain. I think
what she said in this TikTok on the podcast was
that Nick one time warned me while we were talking
years ago that if I were to ever do the show,
I would be the villain. So in her conspiracy, he
(12:58):
wanted to make sure that she was the villain, and
then hired this girl Sydney for the producers to bring
her down. It's not an accurate It's not an accurate
theory whatsoever. Nick does not know Sidney. In fact, Nick
thought Sidney was absolutely ridiculous on the show and called
(13:19):
me to talk about, you know how she is in
real life.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Still you have it, you have behind the scenes now
of the conspiracy for Ashley to bring down Maria.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's like and I also had no idea was until
Sidney got back from the show and was like, so
there was this girl named Maria.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I was gonna say, if you plan this conspiracy, this
was not a genius planning because only one person kind
of got brought down, and that was Sidney. Maria kind
of has shined and taken off from this experience.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I was like, oh wait, you weren't even the villain,
and it was like Sidney was the villain.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I would expect you to be a lot better at
planning a conspiracy, Like I feel like you'd be pretty
good at it if you could really think it through.
Thank you're a gamer, and this one was not thought through.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm really good at like being a mastermind.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, given enough time, Ashley can absolutely.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And I'm not going anything when like, the producers are
the ones that actually have the hands at work.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know, they get they get paid to actually be mastermind.
They get paid big bucks for it. All Right, So
you have it there. You have the inside track to
the conspiracy that never existed. There was no Ashley is
telling us that there was no behind the scenes planning
with Nick and Jared and Ashley and Sidney to make
anything happen this year on the show.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, Hey, that's all the headlines we have for you today.
We'll be back talking about more things in Bachination. Great
interviews coming your way. If you haven't yet, please tune
in to listen to the Nick and Natalie wedding breakdown.
There's some great stories there that really made the night special. Also,
we have an interview with Chris Souls coming up, talking
about his singleness, where he's at in life, what his
(15:15):
plans are for the future, just getting back in touch
with Chris. So until next time, I've been Ben, I've
been Ashley.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's time for Bachelor headlines. We got a lot of
headlines this week, some big ones kind of coming across
all of our twitters or news channels. The first one
is obviously this week, I should preface with saying that.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Nick and Natalie got married.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
There's gonna be no headlines today about that because we
have a whole separate episode kind of covering that wedding
and all the things that happened behind the scenes. So
go back and listen to that if you want to
hear more about Nick and Natalie's wedding that just happened
this past weekend. Along with their wedding, Stage Coach was
happening and some you know, Bachelor other reality show crossover
(00:49):
moments happened at Stage Coach this year. Ashley tell us
about it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well, we saw that Tyler Cameron was there and he
was catching up with Maria from this past season, who
also did her first big interview this week, and we're
getting some headlines about that interview. We'll get to that later.
But Tyler was also supposed to be at well, he
(01:15):
was invited to Nick and Natalie's wedding he was unable
to attend for I believe a business commitment that he
had at Stagecoach. Also, Daisy Kent was there and she
was there with her new boyfriend who was actually a
former flame. His name is Thor Thor. The dude's name
(01:38):
is Thor. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
His solid name, solid name.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So maybe we'll get more from Daisy about that soon.
We also saw Joey and Kelsey there and Jason Tarctic
with wow Us Weekly kind of messed up here. He
called Kat strict Tickler his fiance. I would say they
are not engaged, but his I think we can safely
(02:03):
say girlfriend now Kat Stickler TikTok Star. Yeah, they were
seen kissing, so I think we could call that thing official.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That kind of leads us into the next headline. The
Jason Tarctic Cat Strickler rumor had been kind of floating
around for a while now. People were speculating that they
were kind of dating. So just for people that are
unfamiliar with Cat, she's popular on TikTok. She has a
(02:35):
four year old daughter, I believe, and she's known Ashley
for her kind of comedic takes on life experiences. Motherhood
kind of her own life.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Correct, Yes, so my sister filled me in a little
bit on her. But she kind of came to fame
on TikTok during COVID and it was a lot of
family content between her husband and their newborn baby, and
they ended up getting divorced and like being like, hey, actually,
even though we do funny tiktoks here, we're getting divorced.
(03:11):
So there was that, and now she's been hanging out
with a lot of Bachelor alum alongside Jason. Like, maybe
you ben have gone to dinner with her once.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I might have. Yes, I think I did. I think
I saw this one coming.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, we did get to see the two of
them together, and hey, it's not my place to come
out and announce relationships until they're ready, and so this
is obviously a moment where they're ready because they're going
out in public now. They seem very happy, very curious
about each other when we were at dinner.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But maybe you know this. Did they meet on the
podcast because he did a podcast episode with her. I
know that he just recently put out an Instagram reel
with that podcast, But I think the podcast episode dropped
a month or so ago.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He banks episodes ahead of time, and I was just
wondering because you know, that's how you met Caitlin through
a podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Wow, what a channel.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So some people slide into dms and some people just
you know, have them on a pod.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And ask them a bunch of questions and say, hey,
I'm actually more curious about you. Can I take you
to dinner tonight?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know actually how they met. I did get
to sit beside the two of them, but she was
on the other side of Jason, and I was kind
of catching up with Jason, and I do know at
that time they were not ready to be public.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah. I would say that they've probably been together for
like three to four months.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Wow, So I'll wait, is that cross that?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Mean late February is when they were starting that they
were seen on that vacation together.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I guess if you're going on vacation with somebody, probably, yeah,
you're probably interested. When Kaitlin and Jason break up July.
It's almost been a year since they broke up. Yeah, goodness, gracious,
I can't keep up with all this all the time.
This is why I got you. I'm good calendar and
you're a good calendar. Speaking of TikTok, actually, I was
(05:04):
scrolling on TikTok and saw an interesting TikTok about Jason
Ritter and his you know wife. It's a really funny TikTok.
Have you seen it?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, But I know that Jason Ritter and Melanie Lynsky
are big Bachelor fans. Jared has met them Mountain event
and so that they were like the sweetest and they
were the one that came up to him and they
were all like, well, I love the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah. Yeah. So here's the story.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
She is claiming that she didn't know she was engaged
to Jason when they first got engaged. The TikTok talks
about how she went to this jewelry store and saw
this ring. She loved the ring, but she said it
looked too like wedding ringish, engagement ringish, so she didn't
buy it. She went home and they were watching The Bachelor,
and he pauses The Bachelor in the middle of it,
(05:50):
she said, and hands her this ring that she had
just seen its jewelry store, but doesn't say anything kind
of about it, and she's like, thank you, this is
a really nice ring. And they start watching The Bachelor again. Well,
a couple of days later, they're going to a family
reunion and at this family party, Jason starts introducing her
(06:15):
as his fiance and she's like, I did not know
we were engaged. She's like, he thought he proposed to
me in that moment. I don't think he did, and
so they kind of had to do a rough redo.
So a couple things from this their Bachelor fans ciz
are I mean, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
It's really funny. If you haven't seen it, go out
there and look at it. It's great.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That is so funny. What was he thinking in the
middle of a Bachelor episode just to like a hand
her or ring and no speech, no will you marry me?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I like the idea that The Bachelor was like, he
was like, Hey, how should I do this?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And how do I do it in a sweet way?
Let's do it during the Bachelor.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean that's probably what he thought. He was like,
Oh the show talk romance for me.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't know. Well, it's a funny story.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, next headline is this Bachelor lum Arileindyke admits he
rushed into getting a vasectomy.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
This is so interesting because the last time I talked
to them, they were so done with kids. But during
a recent Q and A, Lauren was asked whether or
not she'd want more kids, and she said, well, Ari
did have a vasectomy over a year ago, but now
i feel like we rushed it a bit. I'm not
sure that I'm done yet. So, you know, the second
(07:38):
mes are supposed to be relatively easy to reverse. Sometimes
there's about.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One of them, not only get two of them.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh my gosh, could you imagine oh getting a sectamy
having to reverse it?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You guys are babies. I don't think that you're pretty
much totally not.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I have no problem admitting that I'm a baby, but
the idea of it just absolutely terrifies me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I honestly don't really know what the procedure looks like.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I have an idea, well, I have an idea in
my head. I also had a couple buddies get them
and have really bad experiences. I have a couple that
have really good experience. If I have one body who
is like laid up for a week afterwards because things
didn't go according to plan, and that just scares me. Actually,
I don't know it just like makes it makes me tingle.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It should make you tingle.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Do you know where the incision point is?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah? I do, at least with my buddy, I do.
It's under the.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Pubic bone or said by the balls.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I guess down there. Yeah, it's down there underneath. I
think we call it underneath.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I called it the undercarriage. I don't know what other
people call it. I don't know the medical term.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, you know our he might be going back to
the office.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That would be wild, good for him. That seems like
a YouTube video waiting to happen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, final headline of the day is bachelor.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Actually, actually, don't say final. We definitely have to talk
about those Maria tiktoks Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Next headline is this Bachelor Nation's Haley Ferguson gives birth
the baby number one with husband Oola.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yes, so for so. Hailey was very open about her
struggles with infertility there. This first child is a dream
come true, as she said via IVF. And the baby's
name is a baby's name? Is is it lovey Lousy?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Louv. I think it's Louis l.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
U v I Levine Paul ve, which is very nice, beautiful,
very nice said you know the he said, you're the
love that we've always known was coming. The baby was
born over the weekend, I believe, because she posted this
welcome to the World post on Monday.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Congratulations to the two of them, welcoming new life into
this world. Final headline of today is Maria has been
on Call Her Daddy. That's been a big thing within
Bachelor Nation. Call Her Daddy is a huge podcast and
not many from Bachelor Nation have been a part of
the recording. It kind of has swept i'd say, Bacheloration
(10:34):
by storm, just the fact that Maria was going on
and she's telling her story. Tiktoks have now been released
kind of about the episode.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And the juicy parts of the episode.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, so Ashley tell us more.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, Okay, so she has this strange theory that like
me and Nick were in on trying to create a
villain out of Maria. So no, I didn't even know
who Maria was beforehand, but she has this conspiracy theory
(11:11):
that Nick and I got together with Sydney. We brought
Sydney to production and we're like, hey, this is our friend.
Sydney she'd be great to take down the villain or
something of this season. I actually is kind of she
needs to explain her theory a little bit better. But
the reasoning that she had, the reason that she had
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a little suspicion was just because there's a picture of Sidney,
Nick and I from I think September twenty twenty two
when Nick came to Audrey's for his book signing and
then Sydney was Audrey's social media coordinator and she took
a picture with Nick, quick picture. Don't even know that.
(11:52):
Oh yeah, we took her. We took Nick and Natalie
to her vintage store in Newport. May have taken a
picture there, who knows, But that was it. Nick and
Sidney had not spoken and have not spoken since this
event in September twenty twenty two. He has absolutely no
relationship with Sidney. So if you're wondering why the heck
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and Nick would care about bringing Maria down in any way,
Supposedly the two of them spoke in like a flirty
way years and years ago before she he and Natalie
were together. It was like dming. I don't know if
they ever met in real life, but that's why Nick
was like, Oh, this girl Maria is going on the
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going on the show. She's such a villain. I think
what she said in this TikTok on the podcast was
that Nick one time warned me while we were talking
years ago that if I were to ever do the show,
I would be the villain. So in her conspiracy, he
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wanted to make sure that she was the villain, and
then hired this girl Sydney for the producers to bring
her down. It's not an accurate It's not an accurate
theory whatsoever. Nick does not know Sidney. In fact, Nick
thought Sidney was absolutely ridiculous on the show and called
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me to talk about, you know how she is in
real life.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Still you have it, you have behind the scenes now
of the conspiracy for Ashley to bring down Maria.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's like and I also had no idea was until
Sidney got back from the show and was like, so
there was this girl named Maria.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I was gonna say, if you plan this conspiracy, this
was not a genius planning because only one person kind
of got brought down, and that was Sidney. Maria kind
of has shined and taken off from this experience.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I was like, oh wait, you weren't even the villain,
and it was like Sidney was the villain.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I would expect you to be a lot better at
planning a conspiracy, Like I feel like you'd be pretty
good at it if you could really think it through.
Thank you're a gamer, and this one was not thought through.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm really good at like being a mastermind.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, given enough time, Ashley can absolutely.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And I'm not going anything when like, the producers are
the ones that actually have the hands at work.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know, they get they get paid to actually be mastermind.
They get paid big bucks for it. All Right, So
you have it there. You have the inside track to
the conspiracy that never existed. There was no Ashley is
telling us that there was no behind the scenes planning
with Nick and Jared and Ashley and Sidney to make
anything happen this year on the show.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, Hey, that's all the headlines we have for you today.
We'll be back talking about more things in Bachination. Great
interviews coming your way. If you haven't yet, please tune
in to listen to the Nick and Natalie wedding breakdown.
There's some great stories there that really made the night special. Also,
we have an interview with Chris Souls coming up, talking
about his singleness, where he's at in life, what his
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plans are for the future, just getting back in touch
with Chris. So until next time, I've been Ben, I've
been Ashley.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
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