May 16, 2024 • 16 mins
A few months ago we learned of a listener's pact from 20 years ago, and after he appeared on our show we now have an UPDATE on one of the most romantic long shots of all time...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and this segment
is meant only for listeners who aren't currently stuck in
an elevator, because those people already have closure and they
hate it to This one isn't necessarily about physical closure.
It's more of an emotional thing that they're going through
(00:22):
and they need some help getting resolution, and that's why
we do a closure call.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, oh, we had a door sound effect for that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, that's the sound of you getting closure, and one
of our listeners, Vincent, needs some help getting a little
peace of mind in his own life. So Vincent, welcome
to the show man.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi, because he's here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We don't have the budget for that sound effect. That's
all we could afford. Hopefully next year we can get both.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Sounds sounds like Vincent, I just want to thank you
for being on the show because obviously you're going to
probably share something with us that's vulnerable and it's not
necessarily about doors.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sorry, we're talking on the details of the second. I
don't know. Maybe your problem is something involving doors. Tell
us why you emailed the show.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So back in high school, I had a good female friend, Gina,
and I always kind of wondered what if you know,
like it was a strong connection and we laughed and
joked a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And so like, what if you dated? Is that what
you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Or what if you were like a superhero team the
two of you together? I had thought about my friends.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I was like, what if it was more than platonic?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like super platonic?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How long?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Can I ask?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Like?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Is this are we talking ten years ago? We're talking
three years ago?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh about twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Oh okay, it's been a minute. And do you still
talk to Gina?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We kind of exchanged Facebook message here and there and
things like that. But we kind of made a pack
and if we were both single and had no kid
by thirty five, we'd get married.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Who didn't make a pack?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Like, I don't who I made that packed with.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I did make the pack.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
If you're listening, find me because I'm in my thirties
now and.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I need to get married.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty common
thing that people do. But how did that come up
between you and Gina?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was actually on our prom night. You know, we're
hanging out drinking on the roof of our school. Yeah,
we watched the sunrise, the whole deal.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And how many girls did you make that pack with
that night? Was it Justina or was it like ten?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Just to be sure, No, it was just one.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
For sure, did you guys kiss or anything that night?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We actually did. We sealed it with a handshake and
she pulled me in for a kiss, and I gotta
say it was incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh so she instigated the kiss.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's like young love.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
What's happened since then?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, we made the pack. Of course, we graduated and
we kept in touch all throughout college and she even
visited me in another city and she stayed with me
over a weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Did things like go to any next level then?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
No? No, we just kind of reconnected on a friendly level.
You know. I definitely would have connected with her on
another level, you know, it just it never seemed like
it was the right timing. And after that we talked
more infrequently, like every couple of years, maybe, just like
I said, via faithbook.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And nothing substantial though, right.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, So fast forward to two weeks ago, we had
our twenty year high school reunion and going into it,
I sent her a message saying you better be coming,
and she gave me a thumbs up. And I thought
she'd say more.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But total, but it sounded like she was supposed to
be there.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, she she was, Oh, all right, she did make it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, yes, twenty years after you made that pack to
seal the deal.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But nobody takes it seriously at this point, right, like,
do you kind of?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean, it was pretty serious when it happened, you
know what I mean, But I don't know how she
feels about it. That's the thing. Maybe I'm crazy, Wow, alright,
but I mean, you don't just get married like you
try to right or.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Rights of the reunion in your tucks, you bring with.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You, you peak, swear, you promise.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
So wait, what was it like when you guys reconnected
at the twenty year high school reunion?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
At the reunion, I see her and she gave me
a big hug, but she didn't seem as excited as
I was. And I'm thinking, oh, is it because of
the pact? Because we're both over thirty five and both single.
She was just kind of cold toward me, to be honest,
to the rest of the night, and it almost seemed
like she was talking to everybody else but me mad
(05:00):
at you.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Or something, or maybe you're just I mean there could
maybe you're being oversensitive, you know, like it seems like
you guys have kind of drifted apart.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean yeah, but she drifted apart with everybody else too,
and she was having fun with them.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Did you bring up the pack that you guys made
directly to her?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I didn't, And I was just kind of guessing because
maybe it made her uncomfortable, thinking, oh, there's a guy
I promised i'd marry, you know, when we were both single.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And yeah, I could kind of see like maybe she
just didn't want to talk about it with you, and
she thought you would bring it up.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like when you're a boring guy at the bar and
you're like diverting him.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, And I don't know what she was thinking. So
I reached out on Facebook afterwards actually, and I said, hey,
we didn't get to connect at all, like everything.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Okay, and it's good. I got no respond Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There's something wrong, man, Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I mean we're starting from the thumbs up, but you
don't send that unless you're just like I'm acknowledging what
you're saying, but I don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is kind of passive aggressive feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So that Facebook message with no response, that's the last
time that you talked to her.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yep, time, that's when you reached.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Out to us to get some closure here, Like what
are you wanting to get out of the closure call?
Do you want to see if she's still willing to
follow through on your promise.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's a huge question.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm asking him.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We don't have to get married or owner the pact,
but I definitely think like we'd be good going on
a date or being frenzy.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And it's a very least okay, So Vincent, you know
how this works. Obviously, you've been working with our producer
to come up with some questions that we've already sent
out to Gina.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yep, we did, Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We printed out her answers. No one else in the
studio has heard them yet.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
She did respond via email to these questions.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Unless somebody like type them out for her, it would
be kind of weird. But we got a response. It's
just like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Visit Cay.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Remember, Vincent does not know the answers either. He's gonna
hear them for the very first time, gonna get closed
from his old high school friend who he made a
pack with twenty years ago that they'd get married if
they were both single by this point.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm curious to even hear your question.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, we're gonna find all that out when we do
your closure call next. All right, we're already running short
on time, mainly because of the intriguing story we just
heard from one of our listeners, Vincent, because twenty years
ago he was drinking on the roof after senior prom
with his good friend, not even his date that night,
just a friend named Gina, and together they made a
(07:36):
pact that they would get married by age thirty five
if they were both still single. Oh yeah, So fast
forward past thirty five. They're at their twenty year high
school reunion and she acts weirdly cold to him the
whole night, even though she did visit him after college
and even stayed with him for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, but that was when they were in college, right, Like,
you know, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So Vincent is wondering was the pact on her mind?
Why was she acting so weird at the reunion because
she barely talked to him and didn't even respond to
his last Facebook message that he sent her. So that's
why he's reached out to us to do a closure
call today, and as you know how this works, Vincent
worked with our producer to send four different questions to Gina.
(08:20):
She answered all of them, and we're about to read
them right now. So, Vincent, apparently the first question that
you talked with our producer about you said you just
wanted to make her laugh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, it would lighten her up.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's really really it's smart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It reminds her of the friendship that you guys once had.
Your connection.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, don't make it sound so like forever over.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He said that they only message each other like on Facebook.
I want to know the joke. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So you guys sent Gina a joke and you had
our producer write one sentence. It was, it's been a while.
Are your three favorite things still eating my family and
not using comma? You get it, like, not using commas
eating my family?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Kind of a visual. It took a second.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, probably works better over email.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, Vincent, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, I felt like that was a good opener.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, you guys have a lot of grammatical inside jokes
back in the day, saying but Gina replied, she said,
quote still funny. Smiley face.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
A full sentence.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Still, the smiley faces a lot of its own. Yeah,
there's like a hundred words hidden in smile. Didn't really
get an lo o l but it sounds like we
might be warming her up.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So far, so good.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, so we're off to an okay start, but this
next question might change the mood a little.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
What did you do next? Vincent?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Obviously we had to get to the more serious meat
of things, so we sent We've been friends for so long,
I would really appreciate one hundred and honesty. I don't
understand why you're not responding to me on Facebook. Did
I make you feel uncomfortable at the reunion because of
our dumb pact? I could tell something was off?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, so we brought up the pact right away.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I don't know what else it could be other than that.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm just gonna read it. Gina wrote back, I'm sorry
that happened, but yes, it was extremely awkward for me,
but it had nothing to do with the pact. Please
don't hate me, but the truth is I felt so
guilty because a decade ago I went through some hard times,
got into drugs, stole from my family ended up with
(10:41):
no money.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And then at my lowest point, I stole your identity.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Wait wait, Vincent.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What she says? I never told you this, but I
racked up a lot of debt under your name and
every time I see you online or in person, and
now I can't bear to face you. I'm so ashamed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
God, are you freaking serious?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Did you go through like an identity crisis thing like that?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That was a long time ago, that was over a
decade ago.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh my god, I mean are you angry?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Like are you what is your first Like, I'm just shocked,
like I see that coming?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Vincent, you said that you guys connected and she spent
the weekend with you that one time after college? Is
that maybe? Do you think that's where she could have
swapped your credit card or something?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It must have been. Yeah, when I went through that,
I mean, it was really tough for me. It took
me years to get my credit back to normal. You know,
I just never would have thought that that was her
that did that.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
We have the third question here, which is just thing
to do with it.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I know, it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Feels weird because we sent all these at once.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We probably wouldn't have sent the rest of these. Have
we gotten that answer, but.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Questions like how's your credit?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The next one we asked if there was any chance
it's a reconciliation for a friendship or anything, which, again
I don't know if we would have asked that if
we had known she'd stolen his identities?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Do you still want that, Vincent?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I really just want to hear what she has to say.
I'm almost speechless.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, she responded by saying, I doubt after you know
the truth now, you'd want anything to do with me.
I totally get it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's it. That's all she said.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And then she asked for your pin number two. That
was all she said. That was all she said for
that one.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Would steal again, right, I mean that's the thing. She
just feels terrible. Yeah, and as she should.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
There's no good way to deliver this news to anybody
to make them smile.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But it's pretty amazing. She was so honest.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Let's get to the last question that we sent her,
which was regarding the pact. Can we amend it to
forty if you're getting cold feet, I'm willing to go
up to forty five.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, I said that when I was in a good mood.
I didn't know about the identity.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Ete.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I give you just a small detail. You might
want to know what she.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Is resourceful, So it could be good to be on
her side and be aligned with her in that way.
But Gina did right back, and she said, considering my
credit score at this point and probably yours, it would
be a bad financial decision to consider merging our lives.
Oh wow, but she says, but it's a sweet thought.
I'm just happy I'm sober and clean, and I hope
(13:30):
you're happy too. Maybe down the line we can be
friends again if you can forgive me. Oh that's a
good question, Vincent.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's a big statement she just made. Forgive her or
press charges too late for that?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think I really
need to process all this.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
But you know, people are different when they're under you know,
an addiction. Well, I kind of lean towards forgiveness on
this one, if you can get there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, at least she didn't blame you for getting her
hooked on drugs and drinking on that one night you
spent on the roof together. She could have the whole
thing on me. Oh yeah, we did smoke some craps. Yeah,
that's a positive.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That closure call happened about four months ago.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh my god, I'm still like shaken.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Now Vince is back on the phone to give us
an update. And Vince, everybody here is wondering. I'm assuming
that we're doing this call because you actually met up
with Gina again.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I did.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah, is still Vince?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
What was going through your head?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well, we reconnected, you know, we started chatting and we
just decided to meet up and grab some drinks at
a bar.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
So you were angry at all, like I was just
wanted and if after you processed.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh I was angry. I was. But we did talk
and I thought, well, okay, you know, let me meet
up and see what happens. Okay, So we met up
at a bar and she felt horrible for what she did.
She was very apologetic. She offered to pay for the
entire night. You know, we had food and drinks and
(15:22):
with credit card. Interesting, you would ask, were telling stories
for a few hours. It was actually really nice and
we were definitely connecting. And then she went to close
out her tab and the bartender says, what's the name
on the card and the name was and seen or so,
(15:44):
I don't even know what the name was. And something
definitely wasn't Gina.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I thought she had like mended, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Doesn't appear so, and she just kind of smirked at
me and apparently drinks.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Were on in.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So where are you guys gonna go next? Then get
a vacation in there nowhere.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We have not talked since.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
You don't want to get caught up in that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He got home and immediately checked his wallet to make.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Sure, because back he's like, where's my home?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, thanks for keeping us posted on your life and
to make sure you stay in touch. All right, good
luck out there.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Sure things
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Broken Jeffrey in the morning,
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and this segment
is meant only for listeners who aren't currently stuck in
an elevator, because those people already have closure and they
hate it to This one isn't necessarily about physical closure.
It's more of an emotional thing that they're going through
(00:22):
and they need some help getting resolution, and that's why
we do a closure call.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, oh, we had a door sound effect for that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, that's the sound of you getting closure, and one
of our listeners, Vincent, needs some help getting a little
peace of mind in his own life. So Vincent, welcome
to the show man.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi, because he's here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We don't have the budget for that sound effect. That's
all we could afford. Hopefully next year we can get both.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Sounds sounds like Vincent, I just want to thank you
for being on the show because obviously you're going to
probably share something with us that's vulnerable and it's not
necessarily about doors.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sorry, we're talking on the details of the second. I
don't know. Maybe your problem is something involving doors. Tell
us why you emailed the show.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So back in high school, I had a good female friend, Gina,
and I always kind of wondered what if you know,
like it was a strong connection and we laughed and
joked a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And so like, what if you dated? Is that what
you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Or what if you were like a superhero team the
two of you together? I had thought about my friends.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I was like, what if it was more than platonic?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like super platonic?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How long?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Can I ask?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Like?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Is this are we talking ten years ago? We're talking
three years ago?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh about twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Oh okay, it's been a minute. And do you still
talk to Gina?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We kind of exchanged Facebook message here and there and
things like that. But we kind of made a pack
and if we were both single and had no kid
by thirty five, we'd get married.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Who didn't make a pack?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Like, I don't who I made that packed with.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I did make the pack.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
If you're listening, find me because I'm in my thirties
now and.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I need to get married.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty common
thing that people do. But how did that come up
between you and Gina?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was actually on our prom night. You know, we're
hanging out drinking on the roof of our school. Yeah,
we watched the sunrise, the whole deal.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And how many girls did you make that pack with
that night? Was it Justina or was it like ten?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Just to be sure, No, it was just one.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
For sure, did you guys kiss or anything that night?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We actually did. We sealed it with a handshake and
she pulled me in for a kiss, and I gotta
say it was incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh so she instigated the kiss.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's like young love.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
What's happened since then?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, we made the pack. Of course, we graduated and
we kept in touch all throughout college and she even
visited me in another city and she stayed with me
over a weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Did things like go to any next level then?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
No? No, we just kind of reconnected on a friendly level.
You know. I definitely would have connected with her on
another level, you know, it just it never seemed like
it was the right timing. And after that we talked
more infrequently, like every couple of years, maybe, just like
I said, via faithbook.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And nothing substantial though, right.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, So fast forward to two weeks ago, we had
our twenty year high school reunion and going into it,
I sent her a message saying you better be coming,
and she gave me a thumbs up. And I thought
she'd say more.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But total, but it sounded like she was supposed to
be there.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, she she was, Oh, all right, she did make it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, yes, twenty years after you made that pack to
seal the deal.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But nobody takes it seriously at this point, right, like,
do you kind of?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean, it was pretty serious when it happened, you
know what I mean, But I don't know how she
feels about it. That's the thing. Maybe I'm crazy, Wow, alright,
but I mean, you don't just get married like you
try to right or.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Rights of the reunion in your tucks, you bring with.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You, you peak, swear, you promise.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
So wait, what was it like when you guys reconnected
at the twenty year high school reunion?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
At the reunion, I see her and she gave me
a big hug, but she didn't seem as excited as
I was. And I'm thinking, oh, is it because of
the pact? Because we're both over thirty five and both single.
She was just kind of cold toward me, to be honest,
to the rest of the night, and it almost seemed
like she was talking to everybody else but me mad
(05:00):
at you.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Or something, or maybe you're just I mean there could
maybe you're being oversensitive, you know, like it seems like
you guys have kind of drifted apart.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I mean yeah, but she drifted apart with everybody else too,
and she was having fun with them.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Did you bring up the pack that you guys made
directly to her?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I didn't, And I was just kind of guessing because
maybe it made her uncomfortable, thinking, oh, there's a guy
I promised i'd marry, you know, when we were both single.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And yeah, I could kind of see like maybe she
just didn't want to talk about it with you, and
she thought you would bring it up.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like when you're a boring guy at the bar and
you're like diverting him.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, And I don't know what she was thinking. So
I reached out on Facebook afterwards actually, and I said, hey,
we didn't get to connect at all, like everything.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Okay, and it's good. I got no respond Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There's something wrong, man, Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I mean we're starting from the thumbs up, but you
don't send that unless you're just like I'm acknowledging what
you're saying, but I don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is kind of passive aggressive feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So that Facebook message with no response, that's the last
time that you talked to her.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yep, time, that's when you reached.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Out to us to get some closure here, Like what
are you wanting to get out of the closure call?
Do you want to see if she's still willing to
follow through on your promise.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's a huge question.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm asking him.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We don't have to get married or owner the pact,
but I definitely think like we'd be good going on
a date or being frenzy.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And it's a very least okay, So Vincent, you know
how this works. Obviously, you've been working with our producer
to come up with some questions that we've already sent
out to Gina.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yep, we did, Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We printed out her answers. No one else in the
studio has heard them yet.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
She did respond via email to these questions.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Unless somebody like type them out for her, it would
be kind of weird. But we got a response. It's
just like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Visit Cay.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Remember, Vincent does not know the answers either. He's gonna
hear them for the very first time, gonna get closed
from his old high school friend who he made a
pack with twenty years ago that they'd get married if
they were both single by this point.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm curious to even hear your question.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, we're gonna find all that out when we do
your closure call next. All right, we're already running short
on time, mainly because of the intriguing story we just
heard from one of our listeners, Vincent, because twenty years
ago he was drinking on the roof after senior prom
with his good friend, not even his date that night,
just a friend named Gina, and together they made a
(07:36):
pact that they would get married by age thirty five
if they were both still single. Oh yeah, So fast
forward past thirty five. They're at their twenty year high
school reunion and she acts weirdly cold to him the
whole night, even though she did visit him after college
and even stayed with him for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, but that was when they were in college, right, Like,
you know, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So Vincent is wondering was the pact on her mind?
Why was she acting so weird at the reunion because
she barely talked to him and didn't even respond to
his last Facebook message that he sent her. So that's
why he's reached out to us to do a closure
call today, and as you know how this works, Vincent
worked with our producer to send four different questions to Gina.
(08:20):
She answered all of them, and we're about to read
them right now. So, Vincent, apparently the first question that
you talked with our producer about you said you just
wanted to make her laugh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, it would lighten her up.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's really really it's smart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It reminds her of the friendship that you guys once had.
Your connection.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, don't make it sound so like forever over.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He said that they only message each other like on Facebook.
I want to know the joke. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So you guys sent Gina a joke and you had
our producer write one sentence. It was, it's been a while.
Are your three favorite things still eating my family and
not using comma? You get it, like, not using commas
eating my family?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Kind of a visual. It took a second.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, probably works better over email.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, Vincent, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, I felt like that was a good opener.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, you guys have a lot of grammatical inside jokes
back in the day, saying but Gina replied, she said,
quote still funny. Smiley face.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
A full sentence.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Still, the smiley faces a lot of its own. Yeah,
there's like a hundred words hidden in smile. Didn't really
get an lo o l but it sounds like we
might be warming her up.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So far, so good.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, so we're off to an okay start, but this
next question might change the mood a little.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
What did you do next? Vincent?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Obviously we had to get to the more serious meat
of things, so we sent We've been friends for so long,
I would really appreciate one hundred and honesty. I don't
understand why you're not responding to me on Facebook. Did
I make you feel uncomfortable at the reunion because of
our dumb pact? I could tell something was off?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, so we brought up the pact right away.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I don't know what else it could be other than that.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm just gonna read it. Gina wrote back, I'm sorry
that happened, but yes, it was extremely awkward for me,
but it had nothing to do with the pact. Please
don't hate me, but the truth is I felt so
guilty because a decade ago I went through some hard times,
got into drugs, stole from my family ended up with
(10:41):
no money.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And then at my lowest point, I stole your identity.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Wait wait, Vincent.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What she says? I never told you this, but I
racked up a lot of debt under your name and
every time I see you online or in person, and
now I can't bear to face you. I'm so ashamed.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
God, are you freaking serious?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Did you go through like an identity crisis thing like that?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That was a long time ago, that was over a
decade ago.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh my god, I mean are you angry?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Like are you what is your first Like, I'm just shocked,
like I see that coming?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Vincent, you said that you guys connected and she spent
the weekend with you that one time after college? Is
that maybe? Do you think that's where she could have
swapped your credit card or something?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It must have been. Yeah, when I went through that,
I mean, it was really tough for me. It took
me years to get my credit back to normal. You know,
I just never would have thought that that was her
that did that.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
We have the third question here, which is just thing
to do with it.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I know, it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Feels weird because we sent all these at once.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We probably wouldn't have sent the rest of these. Have
we gotten that answer, but.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Questions like how's your credit?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The next one we asked if there was any chance
it's a reconciliation for a friendship or anything, which, again
I don't know if we would have asked that if
we had known she'd stolen his identities?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Do you still want that, Vincent?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I really just want to hear what she has to say.
I'm almost speechless.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, she responded by saying, I doubt after you know
the truth now, you'd want anything to do with me.
I totally get it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's it. That's all she said.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And then she asked for your pin number two. That
was all she said. That was all she said for
that one.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Would steal again, right, I mean that's the thing. She
just feels terrible. Yeah, and as she should.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
There's no good way to deliver this news to anybody
to make them smile.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But it's pretty amazing. She was so honest.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Let's get to the last question that we sent her,
which was regarding the pact. Can we amend it to
forty if you're getting cold feet, I'm willing to go
up to forty five.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, I said that when I was in a good mood.
I didn't know about the identity.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Ete.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, I give you just a small detail. You might
want to know what she.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Is resourceful, So it could be good to be on
her side and be aligned with her in that way.
But Gina did right back, and she said, considering my
credit score at this point and probably yours, it would
be a bad financial decision to consider merging our lives.
Oh wow, but she says, but it's a sweet thought.
I'm just happy I'm sober and clean, and I hope
(13:30):
you're happy too. Maybe down the line we can be
friends again if you can forgive me. Oh that's a
good question, Vincent.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's a big statement she just made. Forgive her or
press charges too late for that?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think I really
need to process all this.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
But you know, people are different when they're under you know,
an addiction. Well, I kind of lean towards forgiveness on
this one, if you can get there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, at least she didn't blame you for getting her
hooked on drugs and drinking on that one night you
spent on the roof together. She could have the whole
thing on me. Oh yeah, we did smoke some craps. Yeah,
that's a positive.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That closure call happened about four months ago.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh my god, I'm still like shaken.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Now Vince is back on the phone to give us
an update. And Vince, everybody here is wondering. I'm assuming
that we're doing this call because you actually met up
with Gina again.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I did.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah, is still Vince?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
What was going through your head?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well, we reconnected, you know, we started chatting and we
just decided to meet up and grab some drinks at
a bar.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
So you were angry at all, like I was just
wanted and if after you processed.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh I was angry. I was. But we did talk
and I thought, well, okay, you know, let me meet
up and see what happens. Okay, So we met up
at a bar and she felt horrible for what she did.
She was very apologetic. She offered to pay for the
entire night. You know, we had food and drinks and
(15:22):
with credit card. Interesting, you would ask, were telling stories
for a few hours. It was actually really nice and
we were definitely connecting. And then she went to close
out her tab and the bartender says, what's the name
on the card and the name was and seen or so,
(15:44):
I don't even know what the name was. And something
definitely wasn't Gina.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I thought she had like mended, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Doesn't appear so, and she just kind of smirked at
me and apparently drinks.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Were on in.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So where are you guys gonna go next? Then get
a vacation in there nowhere.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We have not talked since.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
You don't want to get caught up in that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
He got home and immediately checked his wallet to make.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Sure, because back he's like, where's my home?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, thanks for keeping us posted on your life and
to make sure you stay in touch. All right, good
luck out there.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Sure things
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Broken Jeffrey in the morning,
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