102: My Mentor

This week, JD tries to help a patient stop smoking, while Turk works up the nerve to ask Carla out. In reality, Zach and Donald continue their binge, sing the song that made Leroy famous, and share some never before told stories of what happened at the 2001 upfront Scrubs' party.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I remember being like, that is the most ft
up thing that I've ever heard in my life, where
it's like, we're looking for Donald phase on type. I'll
go in on the audition and they're like, well, we're
looking for Donald phase on type, but a better version
of Donald Donald phase on ish but full phase on, right,
don't go full phase on. You went full phase on?

(00:20):
You Donald phase on went too far in the phase
on direction. Here's some stories about show we made about
bunch of dots and nurses and stories. So ye around
here are yea around here A welcome back, everybody, Welcome

(00:50):
back to the Rewatch Show with Donald one, O two
and now Donald. You pointed out something very wise, and
that is that you know, when you do a pilot,
you you shoot the pilot and then you have no
idea if the show is gonna get picked up. And
there's often a lot of time between when you shot
the pilot and then let's say the network says, okay,

(01:11):
we're gonna make it a series, and then you go
and you you go to a thing called the upfronts,
which is when your show is selected. You go to
a huge party in New York City where they announced
where the network is going to announce all of the
new shows, and this is a very thrilling thing for
a young actor. Absolutely, And also when Scrubs got picked up,

(01:32):
it was considered one of the better pilots of that time.
And so when we went to upfront, I remember all
of the heat that we had behind us at Upfront,
Like even the party for all of the upfront shows
was kind of themed towards us, you know what I mean.
And you know, you get there and you and you

(01:52):
and you meet a bunch of executives for the first time,
and you don't really know who they are because nobody
really knows exactly get us until you're on the network
and somebody tells you, Okay, that's my boss and that's
his boss. And that reminds me of a wonderful story
about you, because we were we were so first we
go to the party and it's this amazing party and

(02:13):
it's you know, we were just wide on. We couldn't
believe we were here. I mean, I was waiting tables
a few months ago and and uh, here we are
in New York at this Gianet party and you have
to you take pictures with a lot of people and
you know, you're getting treated like a celebrity and and
you're not. No one even knows who you are really yet,
at least especially in my case. And um, and then

(02:34):
then we go to this party and there were celebrities
at the party. I remember Kevin Nealon, who I was
a huge fan of from SNL as an example. He
was I think literally might have been one of the
first celebrities I ever met, was Kevin Neilan at this party.
And I remember thinking, like, oh my god, we're hanging
out with with celebrities, like we've made it. Yeah, you know.
Sean Hayes was another person who was a big champion,

(02:56):
like he loved the show, and it was really awesome
to have the dude from Will and Grace, who at
this point was really famous on television. That show is
huge and and do you remember any other stars that
were at that party. I remember. I just remember because
I was such an SNL fan as a kid, that
I was so geeked out that that Kevin Neil was there.
I think there may have been some other older SNL faces,

(03:16):
but it was it was all the It was like
a NBC rich at any anyone who was on NBC
at that time was at at the party. Now we proceeded,
understandably to get quite intoxicated at this party. Oh my gosh.
I remember Bill Lawrence saying like, all right, guys, just
so you know, like don't like, you know, there's been
a lot of executives at this party, like I understand

(03:38):
your New York your life has just changed, but like,
don't get ship faced to all of us, all of us,
all of us Sarah Chawk's famous line, even you guys
ever heard of my Cosmopolitan? Yeah? Right, Sarah. Sarah stumbled
up to us sideways and she's like, have you guys
ever heard of a Cosmopolitan? They're great? And then I

(04:03):
remember cut for some reason at this bar. Wasn't there
like a trappie like a trapez but what do you
call that thing where you swing on a trapeez? Say
too dangerous to real trapeze? But was there? It was
something like that. It was a bar in the middle.
It was like a bar. I think it was in
the middle of the bar. It was in the meat
packy story. I think it was called park or something anyway,

(04:24):
and she was on I remember her being on the
bar and flipping over and just showing everybody. You know
what she had on underneath that dress she wore that
day because she was And I remember her husband at
the time being like, that's it, we're going home. Time
to go home, let's go. My favorite part of the
night is Donald was giving everyone noogies, and well, all right,

(04:46):
let's let's let me tell the story and then you
can clarify. Let me tell this. Let's start from the beginning, though,
Let's start from the very beginning. Okay, So Scott Sassa
was the dude that I thought was in charge of
all of NBC at the time. I think he was
higher up than than Jeff Zucker, who we're going to
talk about. Jeff Zucker was the I believe, the president

(05:07):
of NBC who's now actually now the president of CNN,
but at the time, he was the president of NBC.
He had just come from whatever, the Today Show at
the time, and then he'd gone on to be the
head of NBC. And I didn't know this, so Donald
didn't know who he was. You're gonna ruin my story.
Donald didn't know who he was. I thought he was

(05:27):
Scott Sass's assistant. And Donald was going around giving everyone
noggies and I look over and Donald has Jeff Zucker,
the president of the network, in a full headlock, and
he's giving him a drunken noggie on his bald head.
And I hear Jeff Zucker, go please Donald. No. That's

(05:53):
entire friendship. Whenever Donald like tells me a cringe e
story that makes me want to run away, I just
tell him about please Donald, no, Jeff Zucker. You know,
at this point, I'm giving everybody love because I'm so
excited that we're on the network. It's going down, and
I look over and I see Jeff Zucker in my mind,
Scott Sass's assistant standing over by the bar, uh, you know,

(06:16):
by himself, or he might even have been with somebody.
And I'm like, hey, you come over here to give out.
And he's like he's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. And I pointed at him again, and
I'm like, and I get a little bit more, you know,
agro about it, and I'm like, no, you get over
here right now, and he's like no, no, no, no,
no no, And so I march over to him, drunk

(06:37):
as kim being I've seen you march. When Donald marches
his arms swing and I walk up to him and
I grabbed him and I put him in the headlock,
and I'm like, don't you ever tell me no? And
I'm grabbing him and I'm giving Jeff Zucker a nuggie.
And I remember Bill Lawrence like a few days later
being like, dude, Donald, I just have to ask you

(06:59):
if this act really happened, But did you give Jeff
Zucker a noogie? I was like, I gave so many
people noggies. I gave so many I can't recall who
who was the And he was like, well, apparently you
gave the head of NBC a noogie. And he's not
really happy about it. He wasn't genuinely piste off, was he? No.

(07:22):
I don't think he was genuinely piste off. But he
stayed away from me. I remember remember he did come
to visit the set the hospital, and he kind of
stayed away from you because he was afraid of He
was very very afraid of me. Um, yeah, that's very funny.
Well what else do you? So? Then I remember that
night ended where we were in I wasn't there. You were,
this was you and Nelon. I wasn't there. Almost Almost

(07:46):
everybody ended up back in Bill and Christa's hotel room,
and we it's kind of it's sweet slash embarrassing. We
were so geeked out. We were like, let's watch our pilot.
So we were like it was like a whole bunch
of people and Kevin Kneelin, who I was a fan of,
and we just were watching the show and I don't know,
it was this sweet moment. I remember being like just

(08:06):
thinking like I can't believe this is happening. But then
the funny thing is you have a long time before
you start shooting. So we made the show, it got
picked up. My mom freaked out that I was like
that I quit my waiting tables job. She was like,
but what it's so long, what are you gonna do?
And I was like, I, Mom, I I I can
live off this pilot money for a long I was
living so frugally with with no money that I was like,

(08:27):
I can live off this pilot money for a long time,
So I'm gonna write. And that's in that time is
when I really finally sat down and put Garden State together,
and at my dining room table and kind of was like,
this is a sign I need to I have this
time that the universe gave me and I don't need
to wait tables and I'm gonna sit down and like
put this script together. That's awesome. Yeah, I went away.

(08:48):
I think I did a movie that year. I know
I did. I did something in between. But I remember
also calling Danny Rose, who was Bill's assistant at the time,
every day, like, so when do we start, man? Like
you know, he was like, and we're gonna start, probably
around June or July. I was like, dude, come on,
like like it was up to Danny, I love you, Like,
come on, man, we gotta start. We gotta we gotta

(09:08):
start soon. Man. I I had a baby mama at
the time, and we had two kids and one on
the way, and it was like, I remember being like,
I gotta get out of here, man, I gotta do something. Well.
You wanted to be working, you wanted to be like
doing it well. Yeah, And also we had this show
that was picked up, but we weren't gonna work from

(09:29):
you know, from May until July or you know that
it was. I remember, I couldn't figure out was it
like four months where we waited and waited. We went
back to work probably in the beginning of July, like
most shows do, uh something like that. I just remember
being at like four months or song. But anyway, it
was so exciting to finally start. And so this episode

(09:49):
that we're gonna talk about today one or two by
the way, just this just a little bit of oddness.
They label TV shows in the hundreds so you can
keep track of what season on. So a pilot would
be one oh one, right, and then episode two will
be one oh two, and then when you start season
two it's two oh one, two oh two, so that way,
you know, anyway, just a little bit of trivia for you.

(10:09):
So this is one oh two we're gonna be talking about,
and it's called my mentor. Okay, so the show starts
off and I remember singing this song for such a
long time, but it it's called good Time by Leroy.
If you guys want to remind yourselves of the song
and it was really you can sing it ahead. I'm

(10:32):
sure le Ro would be rolla. Uh. I got shot
down in southern Californy. I remember being like, that's a
dope song, and this is this is you know, for me,
Scrubs was a brand new experience when it came to
music because I didn't listen to music like this. I

(10:53):
listened to other types of music, and so this was
one of the first examples of me being of me
hearing this and being like wow, we and also also
seeing it for the first time too, and it being
like a music video. It was like, wow, we're making
music videos and also making a story about how look
In the beginning of the show, the hospitals in sync
because of this, this song that you're listening to in

(11:15):
your ear. We're on point. Everybody is doing their job.
And I also noticed that we we cut ahead a
little bit also, so you're no longer it's not the
very next day, you know, it's a few days in.
I've gotten, but I I just want to say, like
I got. I was watching this, and granted I haven't
watched this in twenty years. Most of these episodes I
don't know about you, but one of the things that's
fun about doing this podcast is, with a very few

(11:36):
exceptions maybe the musical episode or or or or ones
I directed, I directed seven or eight of them. I
think I never I only saw them once. So I
haven't seen this in twenty years, and it's so cool
to look back and Adam Bernstein directed this episode. That
was the same director who directed our pilot, and I
just remember thinking, like, you just said that, this was
so exciting. We were like the show was opening, like

(11:58):
this was stuff I hadn't really seen before and the show.
It just showed the creativity of Bill and and Adam
Ernstein and the fact that the show was opening with
this music video of how life in the hospital when
it's grooving is like a well oiled machine. I just
thought it was so clever. Yeah, I took notice of
that because I don't, you know, watching this again, is
it all seems a little brand new to me, And

(12:18):
I don't mean to We were a part of the
show and so it was just an amazing moment for me.
I'm gonna sound like, you know, I'm cocky and arrogant,
but you know, watching it, I was like, Wow, this
is a really really genius way of showing how awesome
or how in synct this hospital is. And for that,
I was like, I love the show even more now
you know, now that it's now that it's twenty years later,

(12:39):
I'm like, Wow, we really were innovative and we really
were different for prime time television. You know, regardless of
how many people watched the show at the time, you know,
it really still does hold up. Yeah, I have to say, um,
and you can be that's not you being arrogant because
we weren't the genius people behind writing it. Although yeah,
but we were a part of it. I know, I know,

(12:59):
but I'm saying you had a really big part about
you know, you did. You told the story. I know,
but I'm just saying like this, I think, you know,
as credit to Bill and all the writers, this was
just so original and and different and exciting. By the way,
how funny is it that I have a Walkman? It
must be two thousand one. I guess there was still
cassette Walkman. I would have thought it would have been
a disc but uh, I guess J D had a

(13:20):
had a mix on a cassette. Dude. You know, speaking
of Walkman's well week, we could talk about it after
season one, but I just remember you walking the streets
of New York City with your yellow Walkman, listening to
Michelle Branch. Every me when I closed my eyes, it's you,

(13:41):
I you see, that was my jam. I am not
duming about loving Michelle Branch. I remember you walking out
the house Walkman. It was a yellow walkman, the sony Walkman,
the dope Sony Walkman's that everybody if you had the
yellow sunny Walkman, you had the dope. You know. Everything
else was all right, but that was the one right.
And I remember you being like, well, I'm out, I'm
going to her so And that's when we were both

(14:01):
in New York living together and you were doing That's
the whole episode is Donald and I living together in Manhattan.
We rented aloft together. He was doing a movie and
I was doing Shakespeare in the Park and I would
go out and bought my head with my yellow walk
Man cranking YO every way to me when I closed
my eyes, it's you. I I'm not alone, dude. I

(14:26):
think it's very much j D that you had a
walkman with his cassette tape in it. Yeah. Um. I
noticed that the first exterior shot is still not our hospital.
They at two minutes in. They cut two, which was
an establishing shot from the pilot of me coming to
work for the first day. I think that's the very
that's the same shot, exact same shot they used in
the pilot of me showing up to work for the

(14:46):
first day. Do you remember going to that hospital and
us shooting a bunch of entrances like me and you
walking in, you walking in by yourself, you and Sarah
walking in. Remember all of that? Yeah? Yeah, and but yeah,
but that was that was for the pilot, right, No,
that was for the show itself. We did a bunch
of we did a bunch of versions of us walking
into this hospital, and some of it never got used.

(15:08):
Point at a certain point they just stopped using this
exterior because it was not our exterior at all. I
don't know what the hell that was. I noticed that
this episode has a lot to do with relationships, you
know what I mean, and how we all started off
kind of on rocky ground. You and I had the
same relationship, and you and the janitor have the same
relationship all the way through, but everyone else, no matter

(15:32):
how it's connected, has a different relationship in this episode.
At this point, you don't mind being in the friend
zone with Elliott, and as a matter of fact, he
thinks it's kind of cool that, you know, he has
a colleague from work that wants to hang out with him,
and and Turk Turk and collor on together. Yet you know,
what I mean, they're just starting their courtship, you and
Dr Cox, even though he's still giving you advice and

(15:53):
stuff like that. I also noticed that this is the
first time he calls you a woman's name too. I
think it's ready on where he catches them smoking. Yeah,
he calls you Susan. But this is you know, you
guys weren't in sync yet, so you don't really know
this guy and you're trying to get to know him,
or j D is trying to get to know him,
but they don't really know each other that well yet.

(16:14):
And uh, I'm jumping ahead. But that stuff in his
apartment is phenomenal. I going back and looking at it,
I was like I had no idea one that it
was this funny and two that it was this important,
you know what I mean, Like I had no clue
watching it back then. It kind of seems like a blur.
And you know, to be honest with you, most of

(16:34):
this episode, I don't remember. Yeah, there's things, there's things
I don't remember. I don't remember my It's funny. I
don't remember my head exploding. I mean really no, I don't.
I mean I remember, I don't remember doing that gag.
A lot of the stunts and stuff. I remember, I
remember falling over when he closes the door on my
on my leg and stuff, but the head exploding, I
don't remember shooting that, but I want to just pick

(16:54):
up what you said. I agree. A lot of it
is about establishing these relationships that we're gonna follow ultimately
for nine seasons. And also Judy really comes through in
this episode. Judy Ray says, she does some awesome work,
and it's establishing a really important theme that I think
comes across throughout the whole series is that we young

(17:16):
doctors are learning the importance of nurses because we come
out of medical school and we're super cocky and we
think we're gonna be badasses, but we're We learned right
off the bat, you know, not to be cheesy and
say the theme song. But we we can't do this
all on our own. We need the help of the nurses.
And every doctor we ever talked to and doing research
would say, yeah, I mean, the nurses run the show.

(17:38):
You you know, if you're if you're a layman and
you don't know, you have no idea how much work
and pressure and stress the nurses are all constantly under
and I was thinking about that now, especially with the
Corona crisis going on and watching all the news, and
I was really, I don't know, extra moved by in
this episode, seeing like that those nurses are just working
their asses off, and Sarah's character in particular needs to

(17:59):
learn that, like, no, no, we're a team and you
and you need to like check your your arrogance at
the door, and this is really about, like we're gonna
do this together and you need the nurses to be
on your side. Absolutely absolutely with that. I agree with
It's true nurses are the heart and soul of the hospital.
Just a piggyback on what you said about Sarah though,

(18:19):
A perfect example of someone who is not sincere about
their apology is when they apologize to you and then
it's followed with but just to be clear, you know
what I mean? And she totally does that in this episode,
and everything that happens to her after this is because
of how she just consistently put her foot in her
mouth throughout this episode. And I wonder if it's I

(18:42):
don't I don't remember if it carries on through this season,
but through the career of the show, through the show
her character always had the worst luck. Yeah, well again
that comes from her life too. I mean, Sarah is
a klutzy gal. She'll be the first to admit when
she comes on our show. And Sarah would come in
from the weekend every single time, without fail, every single

(19:04):
Monday morning, and you're like, you guys are not going
to believe what happened to me this weekend? And she
would go on to tell the craziest story that you
would be like a once in a in a two
year period to a normal person, something like this would
happen to you, and it would happen to Sarah every weekend,
and we'd be we'd be like, Sarah, you're you're putting
us on it. Can't that can have happened to you
this weekend, and you're not gonna believe it. And then

(19:26):
on top of that, and my keys fell and then
my wedding ring got lost, and I remember one story
was like a car lost control and started barreling down
a hill and her Beyonce at the time had to
jump in the car or grabbed a kid out of
the way or something like that. And then there was

(19:47):
then her wedding ring fell down a gutter, and every
every weekend it was like it was like here we go,
and Sarah would have a half hour story like you guys,
and she was always breathless. She was like, I'm not
gonna believe what donald. At two fifty four, one of
the most important characters in Scrub's history is introduced, a
character very near and dear to our hearts named Rowdy. Yes, absolutely,

(20:10):
I made that note. Also, holy cow, Rowdy that joke
when I when we were filming it, I was like,
this is the oddest thing I've ever done in my life.
This is a stuffed dog, and we're gonna pretend like
it's our pet. I think Bill will have to ask him.
Let's make a note to ask him when he comes on.
But I think that the idea was that some doctor

(20:30):
had told him that they never had time to have
a pet, especially when they were just starting out, because
their hours were so insane, and so he thought it
would be funny if if we got a taxes I
mean pet. I mean, that's the oddest thing I've ever
heard of in my life. I know, just I mean,
where do they find that thing? Exactly? Who in the

(20:50):
right mind was like, you know what, I think people
I do think it's a thing. I mean, I really think.
I'm sure out there are fans. Would you're listening, you
can write in and tell us. But I do think
there are people that taxidermy their pet. Okay, I don't understand, Joel,
have you ever heard of this? Joel's nodding, She has
heard of this, Barbara Streis. And Barbara Streis and I

(21:13):
believe his taxidermid and cloned her dogs. She clones her
dog because so much so I think she's on like
volume five. We have the technology to clone animals. Yeah,
your dog. You didn't know that. I did not know
that you can clone your dog. It all started with
Dolly the sheep. Remember they cloned the sheep Dolly that
I thought that was like only a couple of years ago.

(21:35):
And that was that was many years ago, and then
since since. Now, if you're Barbara streisand I'm sure it's
very expensive, you can clone your dog. So rowdy was taxidermy? Now?
I tried to get rowdy when the show was over,
and um, I listened, we did nine years I I
said to Bill, the only thing I want from everything
is rowdy. I think would be a wonderful souvenir for

(21:56):
me to have, and he said sure, and then the
people at Disney who owned the show, said no, you
can't have Rowdy. He belongs to Disney. And I pictured, like,
remember at the end of the Raiders of the Lost Arc,
how they put the Ark of the Covenant way in
the back. I pictured Rowdy going into like an endless
infinite of you know, umhouse warehouse in the back, and

(22:20):
like the forklift is going by like other taxidermy dogs,
and he's going like way, way way in the back,
the dog from Fraser's tax exactly. And I was just
so bummed. So when I made my film wish I
was here that you were in very very funnily as
the Ashton Martin dealer. I I said to Disney, Hey,
for the scrubs fans, I thought it'd be funny if

(22:41):
I put Rowdy like in the back of a scene,
like like an Easter egg for them to find. And
I said, kind of borrowed the dog just to put,
you know, just a little Easter egg for everybody. They said,
we will, but we're gonna send him with a bodyguard
because we're worried that you're gonna try and steal him
once he's delivered. So they sent Row with a handler.

(23:01):
They sent the taxi Durman dog with a handler. I
feel like that's understandable though, because I feel like if
they didn't send the dog with the handler somewhere along
the way, the dog would have got lost. I wasn't
going to steal the dog. I was gonna do my
best behaviors. He looked, he looked, he did not look
as good as he he looked thin. I remember. I

(23:26):
know it makes no sense, but I remember when he
showed up on set with his bodyguard, thinking like, he
doesn't look good. He's not being taken care of, not
being taken care of at all, Like one of his
paws was all JANKI and like I had to like
flew him. Do you remember the prop master who hit Rowdy.

(23:49):
I don't know if this is Scrubs Urban legend or not,
but go ahead, you tell it. Well, I just know
that we had a prop master who didn't work out. Yes,
he was. He was let go and get back at production.
He decided that he was going to hide Rowdy in
the ceiling. As the Scrubs Urban legend goes, he was

(24:10):
let go and he was angry about being let go.
And then you know, we were in the hospital that
had all those you know, lower tiled ceilings that you
see in hospitals, and apparently he he hid Rowdy up
in the ceiling tiles above the prop room. That's when,
by the way, that's when everyone started to be like, oh, ship,
if we lose Rowdy, this is bad, we need to

(24:32):
back up. And that's when they got Stephen, right. But
they had like three or four different rowdies though, so
there was just two. There was Rowdy and Stephen. Do
you remember, because there was a whole episode where where
Judy which where uh? And then I feel their balls
and then I feel their balls and I'm like, no,
that's Stephen. So in the world of scrubs, j D

(24:52):
had memorized the two different dog taxidermy dogs ball sacks. No,
that's Stephen. Um. So let's talk about our apartment set,
because this is the first time you're seeing our apartment.
This was built into the hospital. You know, normally you'd
have a set like this on a sound stage, but
in order for us to do the whole show at

(25:12):
this abandoned hospital, Cabinot McMullen, our genius production designer found
a way to uh, to build all of this into
I don't know what it was. It was like the
urgent care wing or something. No, if this wasn't an
urgent care wing, this was actually in the basement of
the hospital. Urgent care turned out to be the bar,
the bar and all of that stuff, right, but this
was this was actually right by the children's ward in

(25:35):
the hospital. So if you went, the knocked out some
walls and so this this was this was in you know,
this looks like pretty damn good apartment, but it was
in in the hospital. Yeah. It was also the loading
area also, so when they would cut and at night
when they wanted to bring things into the hospital. On
the other side of the wall, there was this big
garage door that you could open up and load all

(25:56):
the equipment. I remember it was always incredibly hot, right,
there was no it wasn't it wasn't meant to be
a sound stage with lights and everything. The whole hospital
was on fire because you know, you couldn't run air
condition when we're running like we had used to have
the tubes. Remember we would have the tube. They'd have
a tube wrangler. Even in our dressing rooms. They gave us,
like halfway through season one, they gave us our own

(26:19):
little air conditioning units to keep us cool because the
hospital got so hot in the summer. And but I remember,
so there was an air conditioning in the hospital, and
so they had these exterior units, and they had these tubes,
and I'm sure you've seen them. They were like, I
don't know, two feet in diameter. They'd be running everywhere
to try and make this comfortable, but they were. It
was it was someone's full time job to try and

(26:41):
wrangle the tubes. So what I noticed about this episode
I kept waiting for one line that made it into
the promo for the first episode but wasn't in the
first episode. And that's when Elliott says to me, Hey,
when did you meet Morgan Freeman. I laughed out loud
when that line came up. I mean, I knew it

(27:02):
was coming. And you know, there's some jokes in this that,
even though you know them, I just laughed out loud
when I heard that. It's just that was so freaking funny. Yeah,
I laughed my ass off, and you know it's really
my mom. But that's not even the funny part. The
funny part is she goes she has lovely freckles. I
love her freckles. Okay, So the next thing I wrote

(27:28):
down was Todd the introduction of Rob Machio and Rob
kind of is this guy right? I mean, not that
he was like me, not that he was a womanizer
like this, but he was kind of like a funny,
funny jockey kind of guy. Absolutely, he was very well.
He was pretty good athlete, you know what I mean.
He took really good care of his body and stuff

(27:48):
like that. I remember he told me he ate a
pint of Ben and Jerry's every day, which I always
found amazing because he would have to work out like
that much extra to work off a pint of Ben
and Jerry's a dead, so he must have worked out
of time to have his his Todd body. And he
was a lot older than us at the time to
this episode. No, he does look good. I don't remember.

(28:11):
He wasn't like like that old. But remember he was
older than us. He was a lot old. He was
like in his i'm gonna say thirties something. We were
twenty something and he was like thirty five, thirty six.
Rob's going to come on the podcast, and I really
enjoyed the fact that, you know, you do projects and
sometimes they don't really put the effort into develop you know,

(28:31):
these romantic relationships with the characters. And I really enjoyed
the effort put into Carla and Turk's courtship and how
you know what I mean, and how it became uh
storyline in the show. And it wasn't just something that
from the beginning they had chemistry and now they're dating.
You know, Turk had to work for it, Carla had

(28:52):
to work for it, and then and the ultimate thing
was at the end they you know, they're they're married
with kids and stuff like that. I love that we
see their growth from the pilot to this episode and
then as the show goes along. You guys were such
a good ying yang for each other too. I mean, you're,
you know, the sort of silly jockey surgeon and she's

(29:13):
just like so smart and and clever and and kind
of running the entire hospital. And I just thought the
way that they wrote your flirtation in your in your
chemistry was really and you guys performed it really, really well.
Can I tell him the story about what Casey first
said when I tried to set you up absolutely. We
were in the we were in a nightclub, Donald and
I and I see Casey Cobb, the beautiful Casey Cob

(29:35):
across the club, and she was with Jessica Simpson because
she was um she assistant. She was her assistant. And
now they're like best friends. And I knew them just
as acquaintances. And Donald had such a crosh on Casey.
He was just staring at her, like just like Doe Ide,
like I couldn't couldn't even think about other stuff, wouldn't
even wouldn't just like lost. So finally I got the

(29:58):
courage to go up to Casey and I'm like, hey,
um so trying to be the best wing man in
the world. And I'm like, hey, so, I appreciate you
for this. I was like, hey, my my buddy really
likes you. He really thinks you're really beautiful. And she goes,
who and I point over, like not over to Donald
and she goes then you have like nine kids, And

(30:24):
I always thought that was so funny cut to them
getting married in my backyard. At the time, I didn't
have nine kids. I only had four. I had had four.
But it was a funny sassy line from her and
your charms obviously worked, because, however, many years later they
were married in my backyard. Yeah, thanks to you being
a great wing man. It all started with a wingman line.
I remember me being like, yeah, will you go over

(30:45):
there and talk to her for me? And you're being like,
are you fucking kidding me? Go over yourself. I'm like,
oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, and you're like,
oh no, I remember you think I got the courage.
I got the No, you did get the courage. But
you went over there and then you came back and
I'm like, well, what did she say? Did I tell you?
You told me right No? No, no, you told me

(31:06):
right away. You're like, dude. She was like, doesn't he
have like nine kids? And I remember being like, oh no,
because I was like, that's what the ladies in California think,
that's what Hollywood thinks about me. I'm gonna dude with
all the kids. Well, it's funny that it's funny that
Like she wasn't like, oh no, he's not cute, or
oh no, he's not funny, or oh no, I don't
think he's funny on TV and movies. She was just like,

(31:28):
dott he had like nine keys with her son accident. Anyway,
they should be an inspiration to you men and women
out there who think you can't possibly get that person
you have a crush on, And they might even open
with a line equivalent to, doesn't he have like nine kids?
But if you just started persistent like Donald was, you
could one day get married in my backyard? All right?
Should we move on to We talked about Rob running

(31:50):
line because I always thought that was funny. So Rob
as a testament to Rob Maschio, who played Todd, he
would take it so seriously. And I'm not making fun
of Rob, because I get it. He didn't have a
lot to do in every episode, and he would always
make sure he was doing the best he could. And
but sometimes we'd look over and he would just be
running his one line over and over and over. Air

(32:11):
five five. Yeah, we just see him five. Like I'd
be like, Rob's over there running line Air five five,
high five, Air five, air five. And they really did hurt,
those those freaking Rob high fives. For what it's worth.
I was about to say, it seemed like you got
used to it after a while. No, they really hurt.

(32:32):
And the noise was added, but man, they really hurt
Sarah digging the grave at around eight minutes and forty
six seconds. That's become like a popular meme. I always see, like,
you know, when fans send us gifts and memes, and
I see him on the internet and on the interwebs.
That's what I always see, is it's funny watching it
when you go, oh, that's that meme I've seen before.
But that Sarah digging is one people use when like

(32:52):
they're putting their foot in their mouth digging the grave.
I forgot. I totally forgot about that, and so when
I saw it, it was really refreshing and really funny.
Huh yeah, it was very funny. And then they throw
dirt on he rose. That's a great joke. The next
thing I wrote down was, oh, that would you like
to play a game? Thing with the robot voice? Do
you remember what movie that's from? Of course, War Games? Yeah,

(33:13):
that's one of my favorite movies. And then another one
was from Buck Rogers BDBD BDBD Buck that's Buck Rogers,
but war games? Would you how about a Thermo nuclear war?
Remember that? How about? And yeah it's Matthew Roderick and
Ali Sitty. Of course I remember they're listening to this
podcast and you haven't seen War Games. I need you

(33:33):
to put it on after this podcast is over, because
it is such a good movie. Yeah, I mean you
don't have to put it on after the podcast, I think, yeah,
well not during, right. I remember being a kid in thinking, well,
everything Matthew Roderick did it when I was a kid,
I just thought was incredible. I just wanted to be
Matthew Broderick, especially in war games and war games in
in Farris Bieler's day, Yes, of course, I mean he's

(33:53):
kind of the same character, well kind of sort in
war Games he was like a kid that didn't have
a lot friends, and Farris Bueller he was the king
of such a good actor. Though in War Games, you know,
by the way, a little tribute, they made a sequel
to War Games that the writer director had nothing to
do with. Um what was it called? I don't know.
Joel will insert that here later in her voice. Four

(34:17):
Games The Dead Code, which came out in two thousand eight,
directed by Stuart Gillard. Yeah, but neither the two stars,
Aliet or Matthew Broddock were in it, right, that that
one's not the sequel is not Zack and Donald approved.
But the first movie is oh, I just the thirty three.
I just wanted to point out that's the very first
time we saw the Lounge, our Doctor's lounge where so

(34:38):
many of much of the show ends up taking place.
And the introduction of Doug. I didn't realize Doug got
introduced so early. Neither did I. I didn't realize that either.
I also remember that pac Man machine and how when
we were working that was an actual, real working pac
Man game and I would get kicked off a set.
I remember Franklin got Better and Scott Harris kicking me up.

(35:01):
These are were the first a d s on scrub
as System directors. Yeah, I remember them kicking me off
set because I kept trying to get the high score
on pac Man. I remember that pac Man game, and
I remember when they finally made a sort of pac
Man game didn't work, and I was so piste off.
At a certain point, they made it so it wouldn't
function even if you plugged it in. They got wise.
I loved that. I thought that was the coolest set

(35:22):
piece ever. And I was happy to see Doug because
he's very funny. And I remember in The Wizard of
ob episode which I directed, one of the funniest lines
he ever said, which was, dead people should be dead.
Remember when I come back to life, Why are you
hitting me? I thought you were dead. Why are you
hitting me? Because dead people should be dead. I would

(35:44):
have done the same thing. Okay, I thought at thirteen fifty,
there's a cool moment where, just stylistically, Adam Bernstein again
just sort of setting up the style of the show
where everyone's looking into the lens talking to me, and
then it comes to Judy and she does it, and
then she looks down and the camera pulls back and
next to her. Just stylistically, that was really kind of

(36:04):
a cool thing. That was pretty cool. Adam sort of
set the bar early on as the director of episode
one and two that that the camera was going to
be a character in the show, and every director that
came on after would add their own little bit of
style to it, especially in this first season, you know,
figuring out innovative ways to move the camera and to
do camera shots and trick shots. Adam really he did

(36:26):
us a great service, him and Bill by giving us something.
In hospital shows, it's really about the doctors and the
nurses and everything like that. Adam and Bill found a
way to make the hospital a character in the show.
And they found a way to do that early on,
you know what I mean. So when you're there, it's
never the same. It doesn't feel like, you know, I'm

(36:47):
watching hospital procedural or I'm watching It's something wacky about it.
There's something different about it, and I think that really
helped with telling the story. You know, j D and
his group of friends in this hospital. Yeah, and Adam.
I think Adam really set the tone for that, and
I remember him and of course the next few that
come up, you know, all all the directors in this

(37:09):
in this first batch. I think, um Mark Buckland's another
one coming up that really helps set the style and
the look. Some things were phased out, as I said, um,
the whib noises like when you go when you're waving
your hands. Yeah, so there was a lot of sound
effects obviously, but that whip thing is like one thing
they toned down. This high school fantasy that starts at
fifteen minutes or so. It's so funny, so well done,

(37:31):
don't you think hilarious? Dude. The fact that they put
the pimples on her and the braces and Kur and
band stuff, and then all of us being like the
cool kids and stuff like that. You know, Alomba is
I guess really the only nurse from the pilot that
made it all the way through, because there's people that
surrounded Judy's where I'm like, I don't recognize any of

(37:53):
these people. I recognize a few. I recognize a couple
of the women. By the way, none of the people
who became like major back around people that we focused
on or are in any of these episodes would be
interesting when we as we go to watch it will
be trut to see when we see their first appearances, Like, Yeah,
I saw one dude who was this bald guy and
he kind of looks like colonel doctor but he's a
bald headed guy and he shows up in so many

(38:13):
scenes like back to back to back to back to back.
Let's talk about how in coxs apartment that looks like
a set. Dude, No, it's so bad. First of all,
not to dis cabin, because I'm sure that at this
time they were already out of money, but this is
the only set so far that looks like they just
put a couch into hospital, into my hospital, Like there's

(38:34):
so many things on the walls that are like why
is there a speaker on the side of his wall
at his house? Not only that, why is that big
window there that goes nowhere? I know it's so funny,
and then we can we justify it by making a
joke about like, oh, your apartment is so cold. But
I was like, wow, man, they I think this is
This was the first moment like where does he Where
does he live? But he lived in the hospital. Yeah.

(38:58):
I love this scene between me and Johnny And this
is one of the on his lines of scrubs. I remember,
do you want to be the big spoon of the
little spoon? I had no idea what spooning was. I
knew that you could spoon, like I know what spooning was,
but I didn't know that you could be there was
a big spoon and a little spoon. I had no
idea that that existed, and that kind of was like
little spoon. That whole scene is hilarious, you know what

(39:19):
I mean, Even though when he kicks you out and
he gives you the lesson and he's like, now come here,
let me give you a hug, and you're like, get
the funk out. Of here, and he's like, come on,
come on, come on, give me a hug. And he's
like me uh, and he's like, come on, give me
a hug, and you go up for the huggy. I
gotta get out of here. Very funny, very He's so
good and I really just so good. I really just
liked that scene between the two of us. It really
kind of showed the dance with Johnny Sea where it

(39:41):
was going to be like, you know, fucking with me
a ton and really, but then eventually there'd always be
a lesson underneath it, and he'd always drop in and
be a good mentor. I mean that's when this is
called my mentor. So he's doesn't want me mo mentor,
doesn't mere mentor. And in the end he finally drops
some knowledge like you can't save these people. All you
can do is do your asked. You're not responsible for
changing people's habits. You can't make someone who's gonna smoke

(40:04):
not smoke. And I know that this is something and
that doctors must deal with all the time. They wish
they could make their patients stop eating that fast food,
They wish they could make their patients stop smoking. Whatever
it is Johnny's trying to teach j D early on,
like you don't have control over over that. You can
only do what you can do. I had made a
note on that. Also, when doctors come into the hospital

(40:25):
for the first few months, maybe even more than that,
they take everything so personal. And that's great to have
that type of attitude, but if you continue that type
of attitude, it's going to be really hard for you
to make it as a doctor, you know what I mean.

(40:45):
And that's what j D had to experience, you know
what I mean. J D cared so much about Will
and you know, and Will quitting his cigarette addiction, and
he thought that that was a bonding experience between him
and Dr Cox. You know, dude, I know you're thinking
about it, and let's talk it over so we can

(41:07):
come back in tomorrow with the game plan and stop
this dude from smoking cigarettes. And at the end of
the day, that wasn't your job. Your job is to
test and treat, you know what I mean. That was
j D's job. Let's test him and see what ailments
he has, and any ailment we find, we're gonna treat

(41:27):
and try and save him from all of this extracurricular
activity of you giving a crap about you know, how
he got here. That's not in the cards because at
the end of the day, if this person does pass away,
how do you develop the strength to get up again?
If you were so so invested in this person's well being.

(41:50):
And as much as that sucks to hear, that's how
doctors have to be. That's how nurses have to be.
They're gonna deal with death, They're gonna deal with life,
they're gonna deal with disease, They're going to deal with
all of these things. And how do you put up
a shield so at the end of the day, if
you do lose somebody, you can come back the next

(42:11):
day and do your job, you know what I mean?
And that was what Cox was trying to prepare j
D for early on, early on in the show, because
like he's like, you need to get used to this.
This is not You're not gonna be able to save
every single person and change all their habits. By the way,
I'm looking at the credits and I see that John
Deucey's who was the guest star as Will his character's
name Will Forte. And was there some connection to Will Forte?

(42:35):
Did someone wasn't so. I think one of our writers
was partnered with Will four Day. I do believe you're right.
I was Swarts Shorts. Yeah. Speaking of Mike schwartzach the
show that I'm that I shot all last year Emergence,
which is on ABC, which is another Disney show. The
creators of that show wrote on ED back in the

(42:55):
day with a young Mike Schwartz. That's not musty where
Bill found him. Yeah, ED came first because I remember
when the show ED was on and Tom Kavanaugh's picture
went up on billboards and I still didn't have a job.
My mom would call me and be like, there is
a show where this guy looks exactly like you and

(43:17):
and he's on billboards everywhere. And I remember thinking like, great, yeah,
that's not me, Mom. It's kind of It's kind of
crazy how he came on to be a brother later on.
I know, I wish they I wish they would have
had I wish you would have had two brothers. I
wish it would have been him and then Dak Shephard
as your other brother. I know, I get this thing.
I don't know what it is about my face, but

(43:38):
people tell me I look like so many different people. Obviously,
Dak Shepherd's the most common these days, but I used
to get Tom Kavanaugh and Ray Romano. Yeah I remember
Ray Romano. Yeah yeah. I Finally early on when our
show launched, everyone was saying that I was like young
Ray Romano, and I remember Ray. I met Ray Romano
like on a press line somewhere, and he looked at

(44:00):
me and he was like, oh, it's like looking in
a mirror. I couldn't remember if he was finding the comparison. Funny,
can you tell the story about how when we went
to Vegas and I was in the bathroom and I

(44:23):
was washing my hands and I left and the guy goes, oh,
you know who that was, right? Do you remember the story? Unfortunately,
I remember the story, but I forgot the punchline, So
you're gonna have to tell it. So we're in Vegas
and we're hanging out. It's us, Josh Rayden, our Buddy
Carey Brothers, and Michael Weston, who also at some point
was on the show. Ye came on the show as

(44:44):
private dancer, right right, right, But Carrie and Josh both
had music on the show, if I remember correctly, right, yes, right,
So we're all in Vegas. We go to Vegas. It's
our first time going to Vegas to as a group,
and we're you know, we're very young, and we've we've
got a little bit of money at this point to
spend in Vegas. We had a really good time. We

(45:05):
stayed at the MGM Grand They hooked it up for us.
The story, as I even corrected, I was in the bathroom.
Donald in the bathroom and Donald washed his hands and
then he left and the person that was in there
said to his friend, you know who that was? And
in my mind, I'm thinking, like Donald getting recognized, and
the guy goes who and he goes, that was Erkele.
That was fucking Rkle, dude, And they were like freaking

(45:27):
out that Erkel had been in the bathroom with them.
I love that to this day, I you know, to
this day. Anytime I could be mentioned in the same
story as Jalio White, Tay Digs, all these people who
were like, you know, iconic for being really good at
playing a character, or you know, Julia went on to

(45:47):
do Stefan Urkle, which was really freaking awesome and it
showed his range as an actor and everything like that.
Anytime I could be mentioned in the same story. Like
one time quest Love hit me up. It was like, Yo,
somebody said I looked like you, and I was like,
that's the best day ever, dude. I remember when we
first became friends and we'd go out and about no
one knew who I was at all. But some people

(46:07):
would would know Donald's name. But a lot of people
would just be like, yo, yo clueless, clueless. They would
just yell clueless at you right all the time, YO clueless, clueless,
Yo clueless. And then and then they point to you
and be like YO clueless by his friend, Yo clueless,
but his friend look at clueless. His friend's clueless and
clueless his friends. That story has a horrible ending, though, man,

(46:30):
it has a horrible well. The ending is, you know
you did Garden State and all of a sudden he
became Zach Braff and people are like, oh, ship Zach Braff,
and look who he's hanging out with. He's got clueless
with him. That's not what happened. That is what happened.
That's funny. I dis remember, you know. It's funny the
thing the things that people yell at you on the street,
like you don't get clueless anymore. I'm sure, but no.

(46:51):
But I get a lot of black scrub thanks the
family guy. I get a lot of black scrubs and
get scrubs and you know, yeah, I got I get
where turk all the time. Sometimes people will know my
name and they just talked to me right away, and
I I can't figure out if I know them in
real life or they just know me as an actor.
And especially when I when I'm in New York because

(47:11):
I lived there part of the year and people just
walking on the street just start talking to you, and
you don't want to be I don't want to be
rude at all, but I'm trying to think, like do
I know this person or do they just know my name.
One time I was parallel parking in Manhattan and it
was going horribly and some guy walks by. He's like,
you're killing it, braf, and I just couldn't remember. Like,

(47:34):
I just was like, do I know that I don't
think I know that person. They just give me ship.
That happened to me recently at Starbucks before this whole
quarantine thing happened. I was at Starbucks and a guy
comes up to me, goes, Donald, how you been man.
I'm like, hey, man, how's it going. He's like, you know,
I'm good. And then I realized, so I don't know
this guy. I was like, wait, how do how do
we know each other? And he says, oh, dude, I'm
just such a huge fan of yours. And I remember thinking,

(47:56):
holy cow, that's how you get caught out there. Dude,
from here on out, if somebody says to me, Donald,
how's it going and I don't know who they are,
I'm not going to be embarrassed anymore because that's that
moment of embarrassment where you're like, wait, because I don't
want to want to hurt it, hurt anybody's feelings. Oh.
I thought of another person that I used to really

(48:17):
get a lot before. Was Anne Hathaway's boyfriend that went
to jail. Do you remember that guy? I don't. He
was involved in some I think it was business or
money crime something, but he went to jail and I
walk in. This is years ago. I walk into a
coffee bean and I walk in and I see our
senior Hall and he's looking right at me, and I
don't think I don't remember ever met our senior Hall,

(48:39):
but I was kind of geeked out because I loved
Senior Hall, and he kind of smiled at me. He
brought me over to the end of the counter where
they delivered the coffees, and there you can hear the music.
Oh is Eddie Murphy standing there? And I'm like having
one of the greatest moments in my life. And now
when I meet famous people, I can normally hold it together. Yeah,
I'm gonna keep it. I remember saying to you one time, dude,

(49:00):
how do you do this? Man? Like that's freaking Benjamin
Bratt right there, and you're not even geeking out. Really,
You're just like it's not even up and You're like,
I don't, I don't, I don't geek out. Well, I
can hold it together sometimes, but when I met Eddie Murphy,
I mean I just started gushing. I was like, Eddie,
I'm so sorry, but I just want to say that,
like you were like such an inspiration to me, and
and and and and and Beverly Hill's cop I I

(49:21):
gotta tell you it's I use it as an example
all the time because like the bad guys were like
legitimately scary, but and he goes, he goes, who bad
that bad guys weren't scary? Who Victor Maitland? And I
was like, oh my god, Eddie Murphy just said Victor
Maitland to me in a coffee shop. My life has
peaked right now. He's like Victor Maitland and I'm like, no, not,
I'm like Victor Maitland. Like well, I was like the Henchman.

(49:41):
He goes, yeah, the Henchman was scary. And then he
interrupts me and he goes stares at me, and he goes,
anybody ever tell you look like Anne Hathaway his boyfriend
and went to jail. And I said what. He goes, yeah,
because I was watching the news and I was like,
that looks like the dude from Scrubs. And I thought,

(50:03):
this is the most surreal moment of my entire life.
Eddie Murphy is telling recognize a he knows who I
am because he knows what Scrubs is, and be he's
trying to figure out if I've been told before that
I looked like and Hathaway's boyfriend. By the way, the
last part of that story I gotta tell you because
it's so funny. I go to The Layman's Rob premiere
the movie premiere, and because I love Layman's rob as

(50:23):
you know, and drink with me. Two dayss gone more?
All right, So, by the way, we'll do a special
episode of this podcast where we just sing anyway, I'm
walking and I know and Hathaway as an acquaintance. And
but and this is right around when all that ship
went down with her boyfriend and I'm I'm walking towards

(50:45):
her to say congratulations, and her father stands up and
like gives me this look like I'm gonna kill this mother.
He's got the balls to crash my daughter's mirror. I'm
gonna strangle him. And I got within ten feet of

(51:05):
the dude and then his face just fucking broke anyone
like side of breath relief and realized that it was me,
not the ex boyfriend. Oh man, Now you know what
black people go through all the time. All right, I
think we have a caller, right Joel, We do. Welcome Kayla.
Thanks for being here. What's up? Kayla? Hi? Kayla? Hi?

(51:29):
Are you? I'm good? They're crazy the good. We hear you.
It's time. Thank you so much for being our second
ever caller. We're very, very excited to have you. We
can answer any question you have about anything, well, almost
any question, but mostly Scrubs related. That's about it. That's here, Okay.
I guess like my first question would be a lot

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of shows that premiered at that time had that awkward
first season, but for whatever reason for me a viewer,
Scrubs didn't have that. Was that something that you guys
all felt as a cat Uh, speaking from I was
just happy to be on television. H When I look
back at it now, absolutely, you're absolutely right. Scrubs started

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off at a high point and it just kept going
up from there. Uh, as far as storytelling goes, and
that's really you know, you gotta give props to Bill
Lawrence and his team of writers. Also, you know the crew,
and you know how they were in line and just
ready to go once we started with so many shows.
I agree, Kayla, you go, um, you can't help but go,

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especially with pilots. I'm always saying to friends and and
when you know, when you recommend the show, you're like,
give it like three episodes because you know the pilots
good and everything, But you know there's kinds of pilots
you're so hard you have to introduce so much, so
many characters, and and the tone and the style and
the it's so hard to do a pilot have it worked.
So I guess you guys have said this to people too.
You're always like, just give you a couple of episodes.

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Whereas I agree, build building such an amazing job with
with the pilot and the first few episodes that he
was able to in twenty three minutes an episode, be
able to just launch it. I'm just looking at the
my screen. This one was like twenty one minutes or so.
It's just amazing how much got crammed in and beautifully
woven together, you know, being on the show. I hate
to brag about the show, but I think that's what

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made the show so great, you know what I mean.
It's like, you know, you didn't have to say give
it two or three episodes. By the third episode, though,
we were really on fire. You know, we were really
telling great stories. But we were telling great stories before that.
It just, you know, it just elevated even higher after
episode three because we found our groove. I love that
because I remember my mom asked me a couplice, like

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I need to start something, and I said, you should
start scrubs from the beginning, because I know you came
in at this and pieces. She's like, so you don't
have an episode for me to start on. You start
from episode one. I love that. That's great, Kayla. Do
you have another question? Just because we're all in isolation
and have nothing to do but to talk to you? Um, so,
I guess what's so great? Which is funny? You say?

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Episode three? Episode two is probably my favorite because so
many of the show's major relationships are established in that episode.
So was that chemistry instantaneous or did that come from
filming episodes over the coming week? You know, it's crazy?
Is that? That's how we opened the show today pretty much.
We talked about how episode two it really sets off

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the journey that a lot of these characters are going
to have together. Carla and Turk, Carla and Elliott, everybody
in the hospital and Dr Kelso, j D and Cox,
all of these stories are really starting to bubble at
this point, you know what I mean? Or starting to
you know whatever? Sure if I don't, I don't know

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if we should use gurgle? No, Like you know, when
like a boiling water starts to come to a gurgle,
isn't that the word. No, it's not. That's not what
gurgle means. Not gargle and gurgle are different. I just
like saying gurgle. Another big thing was that we all
genuinely got along. Like you know, a lot of shows,
you're meeting all these new people. Just like any job,
there's mean people you don't like, there's people that you

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do like. We all really clicked, like you know, and
I'm sure Donald and I have both been on projects
since then where the magic wasn't there. This was a
project where like all those people we were and the
writers and Bill and the directors, the crew, we were
all friends and we were all hanging out. We would
all go out together. We just really genuinely loved each other.

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And a testament to the seven main characters in the show,
we all you know, over nine years. We we had
our moments. Of course, just like a family, you you'd
get an arguments over things. But but for a the time,
we all got along really, really, really well. And I
think that that shows in the relationships in the in
the show. Because we we loved each other, we rooted
for each other. If Donald had a moment where he

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was killing it, like we weren't trying to upstage each other,
like go man, go be that. You're killing it right
now like we were rooting each other on you know,
we definitely where each other's biggest fans at the time
for sure. Well, thank you, Kayla, thank you for calling in,
and thank you for for being our second ever caller.
Thank you guys so much for having me. Thank you.
Stay safe out there. Where are you calling from? Are

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you in California? Are you you're in Atlanta? Yeah? Okay,
we're all lockdown. Yeah, Well, stay safe, Kayla. And I
want to say, if you want to call in to
our podcast here, you're gonna send an email two scrubs

(56:33):
I heart at gmail dot com. Is that right, Joel? Okay,
scrubs I heart at gmail dot com. And we're gonna
take a caller every week. I just want to thank
everybody for listening. Um, please hit us up on our
on our social media on on We're both on Instagram
and Twitter, and you can ask us questions. Tell us

(56:53):
what you what you like, want you want more of?
We want you to be have audience participations, So tell
us like things that you want to constructive criticism, right, Donald,
you don't necessarily have to criticize us well, constructive criticism.
You could be like, I'd like to hear more about this,
or I'd like to hear more about that. But don't
all of a sudden get on there and be like
just hating. Well, people are gonna do that anyway. Donald

(57:14):
is the interwebs. Nobody likes a hater. I'm just gonna
keep it real with you all, Like hater d don't
drink hayter reade. That's what you used to stay? Would
Taylor Swift say, because the haters gonna hate, hete hate,
don't be that, you know what? I like the Taylor
Swift lyric and I'm just like, damn, it's seven many yam.
When she's talking about getting trolled early in the morning,
I like, got a long list of ex lovers. That's

(57:37):
that's my favorite And that might be my favorite, not
that that has anything to do with this show, but
that might be my favorite song. All right, listen, you
know what my favorite song is Donald? That she sings
that she sings. You know what my favorite song is Donald?
And I think we should go into it right now.
It's our theme song that we should say we want
to thank you to Charlie Pooth who wrote the music,
and Donald and I wrote the lyrics, and I think

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now is a better time than ever to start singing it.
So thank you for listening. Thank you to all the
medical person out there, out there who are absolutely on
the front lines, and thank you so much. And we
were watching you, and we see you and we celebrate you.
And this was a show that was always trying and
aspired to be a love letter to the medical workers

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and uh and now more than ever, we want to
say thank you so much for being the heroes of today.
Thank you so much, and now let's sing. Donal, here's
some stories about show we made about a bunch of
times and nurses and janitor stories around here are around

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here are