Ep. 16: Drake White on Beauty Shop Shows, Moving to New Zealand, and Don Williams

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What to do.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
You're off in God's Country with Reed and is also
known as The Brothers Somewhere. We take a weekly drive
to the intersection of country music in the outdoors. Two
things that go together like a be and beauty.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Pagets or broken wrists and your Daddy's Big Red three
hundred four Wheler produced by Meat Eater and iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Three Wheeler. That's what you were trying to say. But yeah,
but let's just keep you on. Hey man, We're gonna
sit down with a buddy of ours, Drake White, And
you cannot keep a man down that won't quit, dude.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
And he won't quit. And his music is could and
his voice is good. Got new music coming out and
you're gonna like it.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
He works his off and has always done that to
get his career where he wants it to go. And
it is and he's well on his way.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Man, It's where it needs to be. He's rocking. They
got the barn thing going. There's a lot of fun
having him. Mom.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, Drake White, he's gonna he's gonna sit down with
It's gonna be a great episode. Thanks for hanging up
in God's Country, And I hope you enjoy it. News flash,
Drake White has a giant, big toe.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We'll just find it out about it's massive.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know they say about big toes, Well, they say
about big toes, big songs, big big toenails.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, little toes beside the big toe.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
So your boy hawks got a big toe.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
He's got a giant.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Exact feet, I mean right when he came out, like,
I saw his feet, not but when I saw the
big toe and the little I mean, sorry, it's the
same feet. It's the same feet. It's amazing, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
And they pulled lies out. We had to have an
emergency section, and uh, she was mad, you know. She
had her face like this, and I have this caveman eyebrow,
so all you could see on me was this anyway,
And they nurse literally like there ain't no doubt who's this.
This is daddy is And I was like, how you're
saying that because she's pissed off in purple, you know,

(02:06):
and that's the reason we look alike. But she was
doing like this and we had that same but she
looks like me, but her feet are exactly shy. I
mean I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
This is like a common theme.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
The feet flat. I mean her shines. I have a
huge arch, huge shines. Flat footed, dude. Liza's feet are
like ducks feet. They're flat as it could be.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, this arch is being supported today. Son, I've never
seen you in anything like that. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's you know.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I feel like everything just got them. He must have
just smell them.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
They smell new.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's exactly what Grace told me. I had a nice
shirt on today. But thank you Grace. By the way,
it's because the majority of the time I'm in pajama
pants and a hoodie. And so when a day comes
or are we having a distinguished guest like yourself? I
thought maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So Whenbe came in, you were in pajama pans.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I actually I dressed nice. I dressed nice today.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Jordan made us. She said, hey, we got Kobe Koala today,
so take a shower this morning.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So we were like, okay, Yeah, she was great. Man.
She's such a good ship dude.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And you've worked with her.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
But yeah, we we just had a song one of
my songs.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Did powerful Woman, Yeah, acoustic, and she she hung out
with us through the pandemic at the barn, at the
Wednesday Night therapies that we that we did and uh
just I met her years ago at uh.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Live in the Vineyard out in California and just always
thought she was cool.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean when that happened, we were all on the like, shoot,
eighth grade, ninth grade. I was when when that Bubbly
came out, and I just remember thinking the whole Jason
Moras thing happened, and I was just a big fan.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'm a big fan that Jack.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Johnson sound and her sound all of that, and Dan
was talking about it before you got in here. Like
her tone, she's a tone like it's amazing when she
opens her mouth and starts singing, it's just amazing. But
we hung out through the pandemic and she loved that
song and so I called her up. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, I mean I was she should read like her
vocal would shoot.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I don't know what. We played some songs.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
We were playing Sister Act thing and I'm like, I'm
a singer. I love good singers like I've you know,
always have, and I have never been in a room
as close to as perfect for a lack of a
better term, of a singer.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
She is.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It blew me like like I was like, oh my gosh, bro,
I need to just shut up and let her do
her thing, because she is that good, like good enough
to where if you've never heard her sing, you've never
heard anything like that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, tone, just she opened her mouth and it's it's beautiful, man, Agree,
it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I was petty this morning. I'm just gonna go. I
feel like I need them. What is today Thursday? I
need a Thursday morning confession. I just gotta get out.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Its honorable time here.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'm trying to get here. I just need to You're
the first people i've seen. Just need to get it
out Wedgewood exit. You know. Well, I'm in the far
right lane and it looks kind of like there's a
bunch of people about to turn right. So I was like, oh,
I'll just sneak over into the so as I put
my blinker on, I go to sneak this Accura MDX

(05:28):
with the mom and.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It just wow, was what was it black? Was the
car black? I don't know why there was somebody screaming
by me on sixty five I was cutting through traffic.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
It was an accurate anyway flies a fly. So I
was like, oh, dang, they're in more of a herry
than I am. I just kind of ease back into
my lane, right, dude, she comes by me and just goes.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
No way, and I was like, so good morning.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
So it gets even better. Light turns yellow. As she's
coming down the hill, it's she stops. She has she's
the third car back. There's nobody in front, there's no
cars from me. I could have pulled past her up
to the red, but instead stopped right beside her, locked
him up, didn't look at her, didn't say nothing, didn't

(06:20):
flip her off.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Made her nervous.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I just sat there. I just sat there, made her
think about it, and I was like, I just want
her to see how calm and collected and not b.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
She saw that brow though, man, is true, and I
know that I'm not.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I can't say that I feel good about intentionally intimidating
a woman. But that felt pretty good, dude, felt pretty
good because.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
She made the first move. Does she picked the fight?
I wasn't picking the fight.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
You think you had her shaking in her booths?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Man?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
You think she I think.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
She was like, Man, I probably shouldn't have flipped that guy,
off and then had to or I probably should have
had the wherewithal to check a light before I flipped
the birdie to this three hundred pounder.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
When it is the last time you flipped the bird
at somebody.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
In minute, both of you yesterday.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
What I'm just kidding and a minute you.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Don't seem like a bird flipper. You we give somebody
the bird if they cut in front of your something.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, which this one?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
This I give that, I give this straight out. There's
a there's a thumb in it.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You're doing this like pistol flipp I mean, I'm like, like,
I don't want that thing to stretch out.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think, I think, I really I tell people I
love Jesus and I say the F word every now
and then, and I really like that word, and I
think the F word.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, I don't know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I grew up. It was totally off. But here's what
as as songwriters, I got obsessed with words.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
So Vicky Bell was a thing, Batman's Vicky Bell, and.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I started saying Vicky Bell and turned into and
then Vicky Bell. Vicky vale Is was maybe I made
it up, but it's Batman's woman.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Wasn't it Vicky Vale.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, you've looked at me and said, Vicky Vale, baban.
I just took my head, yeah, like I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Going somewhere going Sorry, Vicky Vale turned into the F word,
which I've already said, sorry, mom, but.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
We can tell you We'll put a turkey gobblay goden
country here we go.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But where I'm going with this is is like the
F word carries weight.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
H So Vicky Vale got fat.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, Vicky Veale turned into the F word because I'd
be like Vicky Vale, Vicky Vale, Vicky Veale, and I'd
start rhyming because I was a rhymer at a young age.
I was a rapper and wanted to do that. But
Vicky vel turned into the F word. My mom heard me,
and I got in a lot of trouble because that
was like the first time I'd said the F word
in front of my mom at eight. So the F
word became I was like, whoa. It caused the reaction

(08:57):
what are we trying to do as entertainers? I got
that that. I was like, this is this is I
got something here with this F word and so and
so then it became this thing and I explained to
my mom and Dad, I had this whole rebuttal of
like it's just language. We made it all up, like
it's an American f U c K is an American thing.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
She's like, I know, but.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Would would would God approve of this? And then blah
blah blah, And I was like, probably not. You know,
I don't know where I'm going with this other than
I was I'm cussing is something that I've always had
trouble with in in this, Like I've always just thought
they're just words, man. And sometimes and so back to

(09:41):
the bird, the bird, that's what that means. So like
if I'm going to say that to somebody driving, like man,
I want I want to mean it. I want to
mean it. I want to really be mad at them.
So it's been a long time.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
She was real mad, and I couldn't understand why she
was that mad because like, regardless she was gonna catch
that Redlin, Like there wasn't no way she could get
through it was changing like probably while she was sorry,
we're spending a way too much time on this, but anyway,
it's good. I don't feel I don't. You should just
watch who you're flipping birds too?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Man?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, ye should Yeah, maybe she loved maybe she loved
flipping you the bird this one. Maybe she don't want
to watch her she flips the bird too well.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Maybe so I could have been a bad guy with
a pistol on my console, no doubt. Instead I'm a
good guy with two pistols in my.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We've uh, we've got We've got a good buddy of
ours on the couch.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Today, Alabama tones.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, power, powerhouse vocalist, man, powerhouse human, just all together. Bro,
You're you're an inspiration to all of us, and we're
glad Drake is joining us. I was thinking last night.
I was like, man, do I have a good like
Drake story? And then my it propped on my brain
and I can't tell the story. I want you to
help me, that we're gonna co write the story. But
I was like, I think I've almost I know, I've

(10:56):
almost seen Drake drown. And do you remember do.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You remember you were on that canoe?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
We were on the canoe thing. It was like Casey's
birthday or something.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Who's the haircut girl that we all love? She's got
a man I love man?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Sorry, is that the one?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
What? That's the one that she hit her head or something.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So we're going we had this, we had this great day, right, great,
we had this great day. I caught a couple of
fish that.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
And we get to the end and there's this little
jetty and uh, I mean I grew up kayaking. I
love doing that stuff. And so I'm peddling around and
we get to this little thing and Amanda drops down
in it and flips over that it's out of her
canoe and goes, now, that's right.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And I mean, and we're in what what is that river?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Up?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
There?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Was? No, it's creek. It's something creek at some point
where you live. Were we Yeah, it was something Jonathan
fish is it?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I don't know the name of it. But where
we were, it's not like it's not rapids or anything.
But where we were, this current had picked up and
this was the takeout spot. So everybody was having to
come in here ball right there, and that eddie was
kicking and that current was taking us around. So everybody
was having trouble getting out of the kayake, and I
kind of got slid over onto the grass. So I
was sitting there in my kai waiting for everybody to

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get out, watching and Amanda came around and she got
take and she flipped out.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
She flipped out and her kayak, the nose of her
kayak hit her between the eyes.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Really, yeah, I remember this, and you may have been
behind us or something.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And I'm not trying to sell it to turn this
into the Hebrew story. I got out, that's right, and
grabbed her and pulled her out, and when I did,
both kayaks hit me and Drake went under.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I went under for a second.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
But and it was like, because I was so physically fit,
I guess I just unless your athlete would.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Have drowned anything other than a pure specimen.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Damn would have been gone.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Would easy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I couldn't remember that story, but yeah, I remember you
lost a couple of fishing poles, because I remember we
went back down.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
We did lose some fisher boths.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't even think they were I think they were
your buddies.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, I think there were all probably, oh.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, we need we need to lose long They might
have been North Alabama. Where are you from exactly?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
So uh rot with Appalachian mountains come down in the
top half of the state. Uh Birmingham is about fifty
miles south of Gadsden, and then hoax Bluff is right
west of Gaston or east of Gadsden that sets right
on the coast river, about four thousand people. Very small town.
I still love it. I love that that little town.

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And so hoax Bluff, Alabama is where I'm technically from.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's the first time we met. I don't know if
you remember we went. You did that thing for the
kids at the library.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Where Oh thank you for doing that what the kids
at the library?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Absolutely, that was amazing for me. Yeah, Drake, I don't
know if you still do it, but Drake, the local
library and hoax Bluff like hosted this kid's event where
Drake came in and brought I don't know five or six,
four or five songwriters and and uh I was asked
by I think Big Tom as Sony asked me, and

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I wrote down with Jason knicks Man and you got
paired up with a with a kid and like a
couple of kids or the family, and you just went
and hung out with them and you wrote a song
with them, and you kind of talk to them about it,
and then you performed the song in front of everybody
on stage and let the kids like they had like
blow up guitars and this was so cool, man, it.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Was so cool.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's really stuff like that that fulfills me. And well,
I'm sure we'll get into the whole injury thing and
what has you know come of all this fulfillment? You know,
like what what fulfills me now versus what did? But
that that kind of stuff, Like I had one person
named Miss McDowell. My mom always told me I was

(14:51):
smart and beautiful and all this stuff. You know, like
you are beautiful, man, thank you, smart but smart as
I'm smart than I look. But Miss McDowell, my science
teacher in ninth grade, said, man, you're you're coasting, bro
Like I had camouflage on.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I was hunting every day.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
She's like, you are not like you're you're you're got
Ce's and I was coasting. I was cutting grass and
just not not doing my work. And she said, you
need to be in AP classes. You're you're smarter than
what what you're what you're doing, you know. And so
she told me that, and uh, that kind of turned

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into like I was singing one day and she was like,
you can sing too, and she was the first person
like I knew I could sing. My mom and dad
had told me that, but well it was baseball in football,
you yes, and hunting and that was it. So it's
one person. So back to the library and the kids.
My thought there was like if these kids, if I

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could have figured out at eight or nine the songwriting
was a thing and those kids, who knows, we might
have planned that seed to have have a kid that
is going to turn into you know, the next you
know read Isbelle you know whatever. Hope. So so that
that that was the end that made me feel good.
It was super super is hopefully not, but it was

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super fulfilling though.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, that was funny. Interesting how like even while you're talking,
I had a teacher do the same thing and it
was her name was miss Harden and she's past now
r I P. She's awesome, but she she was one
of the few that really went the same thing you're saying.
Like she was like, hey, you've really got a knack
for this English lit thing, and I would like you should,

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you should decide that this is you're good at this
and be good at it and be great at it.
And she was always giving me literature and it ended
up giving me like this place to contact to get
more books and more. Like I just loved like different
poem books, and I would just get She would get
me all this literature, literature, and man, I think because

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she invested in me, I excelled in that subject and
it took on become it became my life. You know,
words and and rhythm, you know, and rhyme and the
whole thing. And and yeah, I'm forever grateful for that.
And then I also had a math teacher that I
would fight right now because of how discouraging they were.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, math teachers. I mean, what's the math teachers did?
I don't know, you know, there's not like it's math
teacher be like, hey, you're really good at math.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Math, You're really domb at math for summer school.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think there's a there's a part of your Like
I graduated at Auburn with building science, which we had
to do all these calculuses. Is that calculus is calculus,
calculus calculi so we had to do all this math.
But I never was really great at math. I think
it's this, I think, with our words and are what

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we're creating, anything's possible and there's no exact you can
well what do we say songwriting, there's no rules. Math
there is rules and there's an answer and it's an
exact And I like that about math, but it scares,
it scares the crap out of the person That personality
is more like, oh, it just needs to be whatever,

(18:14):
you know, it just needs to be. We need to
make it what it is and be more well. Math
is not that way, building is. Engineering is not that way.
It's it's an exact, exact thing. So that scares me
sometimes too, because now I live in this world of like,
oh man, it is what it is and we can
we can make the rules up as we go.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think a lot of us had that support. You
almost have to have the support. I'm sure there's the
story of where there's you know, the songwriter, the artists
that moved to town with I'm just going to do
this on my own and do it. But Miss Hamilton
was that for me in high school and to have
a teacher say, hey man, you can do like you're
really good at singing. I don't know what you're supposed
to do in life, but I think singing is involved

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in there somewhere. And our parents were the same way.
Our parents pushed us, and we're very part of of
of chasing what we wanted in life and wanted to
get out of life.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't think I don't think we would me or
you would probably do it be doing music without miss Hamilton,
no doubt, just in the way that she was like, hey,
you have a natural thing, and believe it or not,
you can you can do this as a occupation. And
I mean she was like she started a band, like

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a cover band thing where we would kind of do
shows and parents and people would walked around town and
fundraisers and stuff like that, and it taught it was
essentially teaching us how to gig a little bit, you know,
like I'll call it g rated gigging. You know. She
perform and perform and and and uh and she I

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mean she still comments on our stuff every now and then.
New y'all could do it, knew you would do it.
So proud of your you know, like and hearing you
talk about that, it's like, we should really go back
sometime and just make a list of those cornerstone humans
that helped elevate you with nothing to gain and essentially

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propel you into who you be.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's teachers. That's why I love middle school, high school,
elementary school teachers. They get paid nothing, and it's just
a like, I think a teacher should start out as
she's crushing it. He's crushing it one hundred thousand dollars
base salary. Like, let's make it a competition in our
public and private schools. Public privates a little bit better

(20:33):
at this, but in our public schools that man, if
that teacher is killing it, they're they're getting incentives and bonuses.
Because that that was what made the difference for me.
One Miss McDowell said, you're half in it, like you
need to get in there.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
What did that feel? What does that feel like? At first?
Were you like no man?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Or were you immediately yeah, you got just.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Told her what's up?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think my personality is like I've always hit back
in practice to my hands bled like I've always been
the work ethic guy, you know, like I've always had that.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Work ethic Sure.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
So I looked at her and it was it wasn't offended.
It was just like, oh my gosh, like my dad
would my mom and dad would be so if they
knew I was just kind of halfway putting something in
because they always instilled that in me, like do what
you say.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You're gonna do, and hammer it.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I mean hammer it every and never. That's kind of
the superpower of this. You know, I'm fourteen years into
ten year town. Is like, I.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Never will quit. I'll never quit doing it.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
And that's kind of what has propelled me and miss
McDowell instilled that in me, my dad, my mom, of course,
my grandparents and.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
But that's kind of what we're getting at those people
that we played at, those kids in that library. Maybe
we told one kid that he could he could do
a songwriter or she could be a song and that's
that's worth it all. Yeah, it's worth it all. That's
fulfilling to me.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, you said you grew up close to the skin
some outdoor stuff to the Kusa Cusa River.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yes, sir, did you?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Did you fish there?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
All?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Fish that girl?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So we fished, uh, you know, bass, small mouth. Everything
was about that In the spring. The spawn that crappie
was great. It was a lot of peer fishing. And
then I got a sixteen foot kind of the bottom
illuminum boat with a twenty five christra on it. I
also learned how to ski behind that boat, and this

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boat was a pile of junk. But there was a freedom,
a Huckleberry type, Huckleberry fan type of freedom too, like
do my dad, let me pull start that thing and
take off on the cusa at twelve? Wowself and here
we go. I'm like where the fish at? There was
no fish fighters? There was another You had to read

(23:02):
those eddies and read those things. And fishing to me
since like I am less of a fisherman than I
am a hunter. Like my grandfather taught me how to
track and hunt and instilled that in me, but the
fishing was always something that was kind of mysterious to
me because you couldn't see them. So there was a
faith thing. So he was a preacher, so there was

(23:24):
an opportunity for him to say, oh man, this is good.
Every time you throw that bait in, have that optimistic
attitude that that fish is gonna buy, and treat that
rod tip like that fish is gonna buy, or you'll
never catch a fish.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
What a lesson at twelve years old, bro.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I just relate that to songwriting. I related to intros
and outros. Asked my band that they roll their eyes
because I hammer them on intro intros and outros. Man
play that intro again. We're about to go rehearse after this,
and it's just so important, Like the rod tips got
to be up. You got to act like you're going
to catch a fish. They don't matter if you're fishing
in an aquarium or if you're at you know, if

(24:03):
you're at a blue ribbon trout stream, like do the same.
Act like you're gonna win, Act like you're gonna win.
That's great, man, it's good.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
There's so many. I mean, as far back as I remember,
that's my my first memories of being on the water
where you know, as young as I can get, and
and my dad out there just we just talked, you know,
and I bring so many of those life lessons from
not and I don't even not even if I don't
even know them, like they're they're in me, They're in
my brain. I've heard the stories. I've heard those lessons

(24:31):
from my dad and still living by a lot of
those things that that fishing was was the you know,
kind of the avenue that he got to to teach
me those things through.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, fishing was definitely that, and and just the freedom
of you know, at twelve it's like, I'm not going
to carry to baseball anymore roder motorcycle to baseball. Like
that freedom of that helped me have that kind of
Daniel Boone, Lewis and Clark type of exploration atitude of like, man,
I can I can go do anything?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Adventure? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And the fish, the fishing, the way it feels when
when you set up a hook or anything, like, I
love that, and I'm very passionate about fishing. But when
when I started riding that boat and you know, got
leafs and started camouflage in that boat, you know, and
now we get to hunt these places, prairie wings and
these Coca cola woods and honey brakes and all this

(25:27):
stuff like and I laugh at me and Riley talk
about this. So I'm like, I've climbed through, you know,
five acres of crap to kill one wood duck, to
kill nothing, but try to chase one wood duck. And
so the first time I was in, you know, some
of the first times I was in prairie wings and
stuff like that, I was smashing wood ducks and they're.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Like, yeah, we'll try to shoot me.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Malloy, I stop killing it. And it's a mentality in
one hundred and ten inch deer on public land with
a boat, like trying to figure out I can remember
that first deer and that that I was hooked.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Come on, I want to hear that story. I want
to hear the story of the first year.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
The first year is in eastm Hills, Georgia, where there's
a lot of there's a ton of history of outlaws
and and weed big weed fields and stuff, and it's
there's a lot of poss weed with wheat like marijuana
like the Snoop Dogg. So we're out there and my
uncle Ron, who's a Vietnam veteran, uh puts me.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Out of love this story already.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, and he's got a blue Honda four by four
that like Honda.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
And he I was.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was like eleven, yeah, eleven or twelve. I was
able to sit in a tree stand by myself. And
let me tell you, like a tree stand was was
a two by four now between the va of a tree,
and there may have been some railroad spikes and bobs,
and there was there was frost on the end of
the railroad, so you really had to like she used

(26:55):
to climb, then your feet would freeze yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's say. Our dad would tell us to be like, hey,
go sit in this one. Climb up there, but don't
get on the left side of it, because if you
get it's going to it's gonna yeah, it's gonna fall
out of the tree.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Like I think a book could be written on the
directions to the stand. It would be like, all right, Drake,
it's gonna be cold, it's gonna be dark. Twelve year
old boy, twelve years old. I want you to go.
I want you to walk thirty two steps, and there's
a down tree. If there was, it's a cedar tree.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I got up this year. I'm not sure if you
are still there, you'll know what.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
You'll take a left, all right, and then you're gonna
think you've went too far. But then right when you
don't think you're far enough, keep going. All right.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Then you're gonna climb.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
This tree, jump this creek, and jump over this thing,
and then watch this little There's there's some barber wire
right there that I've tripped over like seven times. I
haven't been up there in a while, but I think
that barbars might still be there. Don't that light?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Did you bring a light? You don't have a lot. Okay,
well you'll be all right. Just let's or let the
the star should be right there.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
And actually finding these places. I remember like the praying.
The praying and the faith was so strength and so
much because I would be praying on the way to
the stated.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Lord, I have no idea where I'm going. Be my
hands and feet. Yes, bro, I've had that same prayer.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, and being a legitimate because you want to you
want to come back and and make.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Them proud, make them men proud.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'm sorry, it's such a core memory you just unlocked.
I'm just laughing, man, I'm thinking about read and I
took a I don't know if you remember this. We
were tiny, man, I mean seriously, nine or ten. I
was probably nine and ten, you were six five whatever.
You remember. We used to go to the river bottoms.
We used take that three wheeling and go through in yons,
or we would go and go down to the road.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's like the very earliest of my memories. But yes, so.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
One time we were doing that and we had a
we had that we had a big red I think
it was a two hundred three wheeler.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
We got back in there and uh, flipping that thing
in a heartbeach.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
We did Gracie.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's like a snow dude, if you had Gracie, I
think it's gracy.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
We flipped it.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
That matters, y'all.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, it does. We flipped it and we couldn't get
it to flip back over, and the gas was pouring
out of the top of the gas thing, you know,
because it was I mean, they would flip perfectly three
wheels over and they were heavy, dude. So I think
Reeve was starting to, like I was trying to play
tough so that he didn't get scared because he was
little man. We six seven years old, you know. This
is on the back of the three wheel with me,

(29:27):
and I was like, oh man, we're we were, indeed,
we're and at that time this is just y'all too
just to us realistically, quarter of a mile from the house.
My brain's two hundred and fifty miles.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean, like we were in Alaska.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, We're gonna spend the night out there, the whole thing.
So I'm like, man, what are what are we going
to do? What are we going to do? I was like, hey, man,
let's just pray, and was like, okay, because that's all
I knew to do. We flip it up. We get
it flipped over, and I remember something. I don't know
how we flipped over. We flipped it over, and then
it won't start because all the gas is poured out

(30:01):
of the thing. And I'm like, oh, man, how do
I do this song? I'm just gonna look at the
engine and try to figure out. Well, sure enough, there
was a little switch. It was like a reserve switch
or something, or maybe just open the car, or maybe
Jesus miraculously just put some I don't know. Somehow we
got it cranked and as we were.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Moving always Jesus.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
As we were moving it, I was like, I just
started singing amazing Grace. I was just because I was like, man,
I'm just gonna start singing amazing Grace, and Jesus is
gonna get the way back to the and I was like,
I don't know if this is dumb or not. I
heard right behind me going, man, he was singing.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
We sang all the way back to the house.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
It got there and got there. Man. But that I mean,
I always people talk here, people talk about pressure, and
I always think about like either a being way off
in the woods when you're four the three want crank
as a kid. That's it raining, terrifying, trying to find
a deer stand or trying to back the boat trailer

(31:09):
down when your dad's in the water in the boat,
other people are waiting out a state.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
That there is no Yeah, that's like singing the National
the Master after Chris Stapleton, like you know what I mean?
Like if your dad's back there and he's looking at you,
he's going, hey, are you not watching me?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Straight back?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Son, straight back? And he's a deacon and he's freaking
flipping me the ba. He's like, stop, son, stop, what
are you thinking about what you're doing? Do you see
the wheels? I'm I can't even see.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm the steering.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
You're gonna kill me. I'll get your sister to do it.
What about that?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
You're like, goodness, please do if you can do better
than please do?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I want that back in the boat down? Is no joke?
All right?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Sorry, Dan interrupted your story.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I thought you're doing.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And we were talking about his first year, so.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Eas Hills, Georgia, and there's stories out there of outlaws
and there. It's still that type of place. It's been
cleaned up a little bit, but I mean, it's it's
just a really isolated, you know, massive land.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Where you prefaced with that before going in there, so
you were thinking like, okay, it's kind of outlaws.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Like yeah, well, I mean we hunted there.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
My uncle would drop me off and be like, hey,
don't don't talk to anybody, like there's somebody hell here
talking about. So it starts like snowing, and I'm sitting
on literally on one of the yeah you know, two
by four, two by fours, and I'm sitting there and
it's eight, like eight o'clock and I've got basically the
same once I got on now and I'm looking at

(32:46):
my watch and it's like seven point thirty and it
is so cold and I'm freezing. I've got like, you know,
all my clothes are too big, but I had I
had a two seventy. I know that's a bit gun
at twelve. I get it, but I had one. It
was awesome. And didn't ever see deer. That's another thing.

(33:08):
We never saw deer. Yeah, we never saw deer ever.
And I look up and I'm like saying, in this
little I still got this little rickety.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Spike comes walking.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm like, oh dude, and i put it on my
knee and he comes by at like fifty yards and
I smoke him and it's just and my uncle. I
can hear him riding this blue full with her around
and he was notorious for it. He could set till
about seven thirty five and he had to ride and drive.

(33:42):
Little man driver. I'm gonna push him to you. That
type is ready, yep. And so he rides around and
I'm like, I'm fired up. This deer runs thirty yards
and falls over dead. So I get down. I get
down and go find the deer and he's riding. I
mean an hour, two hours go by, and so I

(34:04):
was like, well, I've got to gut this deer. I gotta.
I gotta figure out how you know, I gotta. I've
been shown how I got it. Yeah, you know. So
I start like messing with it, trying to gut it. Well,
he finally pulls up and uh, it's not him, it's
another guy. He's like, see you got your deer like

(34:26):
I got.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm like busy.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
So the guy pulls up. I I kind of look,
but he's ed's up on me where it's very riggie
and helly, no telling who he is I'm twelve. Anyway,
that was scary. Eventually, my my uncle comes up and
my dad leaves. He's he's hunting across the hall. But
my uncle comes up, We get the deer. It's a

(34:49):
big anatomy lesson because he's uh, he's in the medical field,
and so it's like you shot right.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Through his lungs and heart.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Here's his heart, take a bite out of his heart,
you know, here's blood, here's the thing, here's the prayer,
here's that and like it literally is is a thing
where it's celebrated. And I did it with my buddy
Chris Hennessy's uh son too, Like it's a celebrated thing,
like congratulation. All the men called you and we're like, hey,

(35:18):
what did it feel like when it was in the
in the scope?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
What?

Speaker 4 (35:21):
What do you what do you feel like? Now? What
did you clean it?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Did you eat it? Like?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Have you have you had?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Did you cook it? What did you And there was
two or three conversations of what you had to do
and it's just like you kind of hold your shoulders
back and go all right, I can get a job now.
I mean you're a man, you know you.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Know what did your did your dad gut him for
you and show you because you know it was. It's
so with my dad. It was like, I'll do you first, woman,
then you do all the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I got another story with that, but that was the
first dear.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Let's hear that other story about you.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
The whole the work ethic thing comes in and I'm like,
I wanted to make my grandfather proud. He's like Drake
and he chewed red man tobacco beach night, sorry not
red Man. And he'd sit there and he'd be like, Drake,
I butchered like that the first deer, you know, you

(36:18):
kind of butchered up, but they I butchered the second one,
the third Drake. I've never seen a man skin a
deer better. I've never seen a man got a deer.
I mean, you're just amazing. And I'd look at my
cousins and be like, yeah, better than all y'all.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
I think I've told you him. I am. You know.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It was like Jeremiah Johnson, can you skin GRIBs? I
can skin anything that don't skin me first, Like, I
can do it. I will feed you. I'm a provider.
I am a man back up, so I clean everything
at the deer camp for.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Two like two years, everybody's deer.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
When my cousin turns seventeen and starts smoking Marlboro Reds
and thinks he's a man, and he goes, you're an idiot.
I think he was drinking at the time too, and
he was like, you're an idiot. You know you're you're
skinning everybody's deer and gutting everybody's there. You're not realize
that he's playing you. And I was like, my grandpa,
he would never do that. And uh, he walks up,

(37:15):
he goes what's going on here? And I literally watched
him look at Shane and go, well, congratulations, now you
get to gut and skin everything because you you got
our gut skinner.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
You run. He believed in Santa Claus. Now he does.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Congratulations. He believed he was the best. Now he's just
now he's gonna start smoking like you. So thanks Shane.
But that I still my cousins run the UH deer
processing deal out in holst Puff, which is a hangout.
It turns into all that's all it's it is really cool.

(37:52):
UH shout out to gain in deer processing in the
Dukes buff Alabama and those guys Chase and Andrew. It's
just to hang out, but that the culture of that
and being around deer coming in and actually cutting them
up and understanding the parts of it and what makes good,
you know, the food aspect of it. And Alex Alex

(38:14):
being a chef is another thing. But like that, that's
a whole, a whole nother thing about providing and fulfilling
that that urge to want to provide.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
What's the best recipe that Alex makes with venison? What's
your favorite thing that she does with it?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
You know, she doesn't actually cook it.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
She doesn't eat very much dear meat like chilis and
spaghettis and stuff like that. She just doesn't. She's looked
at me a hundred times. And believe me, we've had
we've had pretty much like knockdown dragouts, like arm wrestles
over this, because I do like to kill, you know,
four or five a year. But I'll leave that, you know,
to you, you know, to cook and to do those

(38:56):
to do that because like I don't, she doesn't enjoy
the taste of it. And man, I've cooked it where
it's amazing, I know it. I mean it's tasted, wife,
but there's something in it for her, and I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna spend any more time like like
I've tried, man, I've tried passionately. But for me, Man,
I love like kind of a brown gravy, just real

(39:19):
slow rice like backstrap, like cook really slow and rice
and brown gravy like that.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I do too. That That sounds so good right now, man, Yeah,
I eat it right now.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Let's get into your music. When like, did you did
you have a band? You said in ninth grade they
were telling you know, she was your teacher was like
you can do this.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
No, No, I didn't, So that's great. Uh the first
time that I ever really sang and I didn't sing
at all. It was basically like there was a band
called Geppetto.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
It was.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Love that banda my sister's age, and they were good.
They were really good.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And uh the local band like high school band.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
They were in our high school Adamstus, you know, and
those guys they then and they went all the talent
shows and they were and they were good. There were
kids and they just played a lot of pearl jam.
Pearl jam is still my favorite rock band and they
were great. And one night I was in like tenth
grade and Adam was having trouble singing. She talks to angels,

(40:35):
and I was like, oh, I've got this, and I
just started singing it and everybody and I had my
eyes closed because I think I'd had I think i'd
had a natural light or something, and uh, I have yeah,

(40:55):
So I lean I leaned back in tearing to she
talks to angels, and I opened my eyes and there
was some girls two and three years older than me,
my sister's My sister's two and a half years older.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Than I am.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
And we had a Jack and Joel bathroom, and so
it's very conducive to know how to play the guitar,
and maybe they would walk across that Jack and Joie.
That's a cool song though. That was cool, But she
talks to angels happens and I'm like, oh, shucks, whatever,
thanks guys, thanks. And I ended up, like, I think,
getting to kiss one of the girls there, and so

(41:30):
that that was in my head and looked. But the
first time I was a senior in high school and
the beauty pageant was going on, like literally, this is
the first time I ever seen public really and uh,
Tyler Elliott was playing in the ag department. I was,

(41:51):
I was ffa all the way like I could, I
could well man turn a torque grint like I was.
I loved the whole ag world. And our agg teacher
played in a little bluegrass man. So Tyler's playing and
I hear him go it strings in your ride and
cut the dem line afore to stop me and it's

(42:11):
deal my breath. And I was like, oh, I love
this song, and uh, you know I be your and
I was like, oh dude, and he cracks and he
was singing it too high, and I just walked in
the ag department and started singing it. And Tyler was like, dude,
you have to They've requested this at the beauty paget.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
You have to sing this.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
And I'm like, no way, no way, no how. When
my mom had a beauty shop in her garage, and
so I grew up like, hey, entertained the ladies in
the shampoo line, so I don't get in trouble and
they leave or something. So I would sing like Garth
Brooks ain't going down to the sun comes up age.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
These are exactly the song.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I don't look forty, but I'm forty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
So you were literally were literally singing to like acapella
to these women, yeah, at your moms, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Singing for my aunts and you know all that they're like,
I would reenact the box set of Garth Brooks in
the Diner eight n. I could still do every every
bit of it and it got to be like funny
and uh so I'll be that night. You know. My
mom is a she's a cosmetologist man. She can talk

(43:24):
circles around it. She gets her seventeen thousand words in
before lunch. It is blind hair and hold on Alabama Slammer,
lets go like college. She can rock it.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
We have her on.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
You wouldn't you wouldn't have any trouble anyway. I don't
want to. I don't want to overplay it. She Tyler says,
you got to play this, you gotta sing this. So
I put my new pair of car Hearts on that night,
and I think I washed them and I think I
pressed them. I had like a car Hearts with some new.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Boots, ready to do Garth Brooks like it ain't done.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I had these, Uh, I had these frosted tips. My
mom was a hairdresser.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
So it was cool.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You and Dan are the same humvents. It's not his
was in college yet.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Frost and tip them with the white but the white
shells get this story.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
The black turtleback. I got a picture of pretty.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I knew the frosted tips would just turn the whole thing,
because it is a thing. But my sister was two
and a half years older, and the frosted tips were in.
So anyway, I had fresh frosted tips, and dude, it
was I was sharp. I was looking shark.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Well, I walk out there and I'm like, I got
this is easy, and we rehearse it two or three times.
But I walk out there and my mom and my
aunts had caught word. Did you know Drake is singing?
Not at the beauty pageant? And they're all like walking
in and dude, the nerves hit me, the buck fever
hit me. I was like, what have I done? I

(44:59):
got got real, real, got real real quick. And Tyler
starts smiling and I'm like, I can't do this. He's like,
you have to be.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I stick my hands so far in my pockets and
I'm like, and I kick into that son of a gun.
I lean back. I closed my eyes and I sing
it as hard as I could sing it, and everybody
was like, and I'm not saying it was great, I'm sure,
but it was like, holy crap that And I remember

(45:28):
the feeling I got standing ovation Beauty pageant, like you know,
Lindsay wagoning, Heather Thomas shout out to y'all two like,
holy crap. And that was the moment. It was like, man,
this is this is easy. I've been back, hitting back
in practice. There's that thing again, my hands blood. This
is easy. Well, kid, like, that is what I want

(45:52):
to show kids with the songwriting, Like if you can
find that thing that that's easy and then hit back
and practice to your hands bleed, then you got it,
you'd be great at So I'm a senior. So that's
the first time I really love it. So I didn't
really do anything except for baseball and football. Got a
little opportunity to play Juco. Baseball, didn't do that. I
had a landscaping business that I loved, cut grass and

(46:15):
just in high school, oh, in high school, probably making
bank skat dude. It was it was man. My dad
worked for me. I mean it was freaking two grand
a week, like we were we were going get up daddy.
No he was. He's still my cousin still runs it.
And and so we had it going on. We had
trucks and we had things. And so the baseball thing

(46:38):
fizzled out, and I'm fast forwarding through a lot of music.
I went to a lot of music. I went to
a lot of concerts, a ton of concerts, and and
I was just like, what is this thing? What is
this singing thing? Natural singing? Like the songwriting was stashed
away in poems that I was afraid to let anybody.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Read, literally say I've even said that, like yeah, because
we're there was like a stigma around it. If you're
playing baseball and football and hunting, you were a tough guy.
You couldn't you couldn't let everybody know that you're poems. No,
it'd be tough, right, you gotta be tough.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And so I go through high school and don't even
really form a band, don't even do anything like that.
And in college, my buddy Adam Barb is in uh
landscape architecture and I'm in building science, and it is
like a you have to concentrate on it. But he's like, dude,
I have no money. I am so broke, and I

(47:34):
I was. I've always said in my head, even if
I was broke, I would never admit I was broke. Ever,
and I would. I would figure out a way. And
he's like, let's go buy some guitars. What he meant
by that.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Is you you got the landscape, you think you go
buy guitar.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
We bought two Martin's a D eighteen, and I mean
I was like, if we're gonna buy, might as well
buy good eight nine guitars. And then we get there
and we start, you know, we start talking about this
pa on the stick and he's like, you know, if
we had that, we could play these little gigs for
two hundred and three hundred bucks. We buy the pie

(48:08):
on the JB. I still got it. It's awesome. I
love it's two fifteen's on sticks. And I had this
little gig rack deal.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
That the ultimate first gig.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Well he was seether and uh pantero like he was
a big heavy guy. And I was like, all right, man,
I do twenty Alabama songs, Leonard Skinner songs, all this stuff,
and I'm like, all right, this is this is the
And I didn't know how to play really the guitar.
I just had a KPO and U, G, C and D,
which is I knew how to play the guitar. I
could basically play all the songs. He makes a four

(48:42):
inch bonder of all these tabs you know how you
printed them all though, And he had a music stand
up there and we he goes, I got us a gig.
That gig is in the cult of Sack. If I
named the name the the not not Gentilly, it might
have been Gentilly.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
It is Gentilly there anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I've got an auburn folk here. So anyway, we're in
the coult of Sack and we start jamming and kids
start coming out like and I'm like, oh, here we
go another I'll be you know, another thing is happening,
like this is easy. Well here they come out, well
twenty five thirty minutes into the set, which I'm glad
because we knew on the parking lot the cold sack of.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
You in the middle, in the middle of where you
just set it.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Up, ran a cord to somebody's house.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Hunt yeah, cord.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah, just started playing.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Started playing and it was cool. It was really really
pop up concert for sure. That's uh. And I was like, dude,
this is this is going to be awesome. We're not
getting paid. Well, cops come, the cops get called us
the residential and the cop is a female that is
that is hot and uh yeah, and I was like whoa.

(49:58):
And he's like, I don't know, I'll play out. I
don't guitar. I'm like the strands and that's nice, not
it man the strands. So she's like, guys, y'all sound y'all,
sound good, but I've got to shut you down.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
I'm getting noise, ordinances and complaints.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So she comes up and she goes my friend owns
Wings to Go, come on up the road. And Adam's like,
we'll take it. And I'm like, wait a minute. I'm
the business guy of all this. I'm like, I'm like,
all right, cool. We go to Wings to Go and
I won't get into the minutia of that, but we
play for Craig Wings to Go for three years every

(50:41):
Saturday night. It was two hundred dollars every Saturday night.
And then we got fraternity sororities and they were like
one thousand dollars, five hundred and eight hundred dollars. Play
Wednesday night drinking clubs, and I was like, man, with
my landscape and money. Dad was working in Gadst and
I was at Auburn and I had a percentage. Then
wasn't going to class. What are you talking about? So

(51:03):
it took me five years to get through that. But
that was where I'm like, I'm moving to Nashville and
like I'm going to take these poems and I'm going
to start messing around with them. And that's that's what
did it, you know, man. So that was a long story.
So that it's the progression called a sack to the
I wish there was another sea whord like called a sack.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
To the concert.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, that's not good though, I know I'm trying to
call a sack to.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
The We'll do it.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
So fast forward, you get to town, sign a record deal.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
No, Leith, you were that's what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Leith were hanging out every day.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That's where I saw you, So me and that's about
the same time me and Jamie come to town two thousand
and nine, twenty ten, and I met you on the
back porch at least one night. We were all just
over there Charlotte House. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, So there's this thing being raised by a cosmetologist.
That's like, and dude, there's no, there's no. I don't
have a complex about that. I don't have a complex.
You calmed down, But it's like, make sure make sure
you look good, make sure you smell good, make.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Sure by the way you smell amazing. I think I
said that earlier. What is that? What are you wearing?

Speaker 1 (52:20):
A sante uh sante santel central sciential.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
I'm not getting a sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
We would never sell anything it smells good.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Complex complex don't.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
So you have to look good.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
You got it. So there was this there was this
thing of like you have to feel good and you
have to look good, like about what people thought or
cared and music. I started stomping and because I felt
that that foot.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
That you know, that left foot, like.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Just stomping and I would have to nariously tell myself
to stop stomping. And I had friends go, bro, you
why do you think you got to stop?

Speaker 4 (53:08):
It's like because I look like an idiot. I mean,
I'm well.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Then I saw I saw the Joe Cocker at Woodstock
and I saw him convulsion and doing that thing, and
I was like, I mean that's how I feel. That's
how I feel when I'm up there. I mean so authentically.
I just started doing what I wanted to do, and
I'm still work in the construct. I move here with
a construct, a real job, construction job making about fifty

(53:36):
grand a year, six hundred and forty seven dollars a week,
which sucked because cutting grass.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
And you know, I was that much time.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I was spoiled, So no, you didn't have time.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I was over Brentwood Baptist, the eighteen million dollar addition
to Brentwood Baptists over there, pouring concrete and five thirty
concrete pours were not conducive to a loadouts.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
But when I moved to Nashville.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Everybody went to Losers, and Losers was just Irv's and
Steve's drinking place.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You know, it wasn't what it is now.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
So I met John Party there and I'm skipping over
a bunch of stuff. But we start playing ten to
two on Monday nights for IRV and six or seven
of his friends and whoever else was at Losers, and
so we play four years. You know, two years turn
to four and I opened this thing called Alabama Line

(54:31):
across from Losers at the Blue Bar. Well, we started
playing every Tuesday night. In very long story longer and shorter.
At the same time, Jeremy Stover walks in with Jamie Poulland,
and Jamie Paullin and Jeremy were the only reason they
were there is because Jamie Paulin and Jeremy walk in

(54:54):
because Jamie Poulland's wife's brother is Trent Thomlinson, and Trent
used to hang out at at Blue Bar. So She's like,
the only way I'm going for one more beer is
if we go to Blue Bar. And this story is
being told to me later by Jamie and Jeremy Stover
about like we're like, okay, well let's go to Blue Bar.

(55:14):
They walk in Blue Bar and I'm playing for you know,
thirty people, and I play Me and Leith's song fifty
years too late. I start that song fifty years too late,
and Jeremy's like after it, he's like, I buy you
a beer. I'm like, you can buy me three? Yeah,
heck yeah. And I'm kind of cocky because in that
conversation because Jamie had just won in color that was

(55:36):
that year, and I thought, man, he's from Alabama. This
is my Like I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do that
like I'm not doing And this is two thousand and
eleven twelve, you know.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
In there, I come in.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
And the construction like I'm fast forwarded to over a
bunch of stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
But the construction.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I had gotten fired from a construction job, which I
hate even saying to the day, but it was because
I was not passionate about that in the two thousand
and eight had happened. And anyway, I got a severance
package from that job and took that twenty seven hundred
dollars severance package and I flew to where Lord of

(56:15):
the Rings was filmed because I always wanted to do it.
And that's the news, that's what you did. And I
ended up staying in New Zealand for like three months. Okay, okay,
this is.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
A lot about you, but I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
So I hitchhiked around the whole South Island of New
Zealand and worked with this avocado orchard, with this Christian organization,
with these kids about how to do stuff like change
the tire, build of fire, all this stuff. And I
know I backed up, but like I'm backing up to
the New Zealand thing, was a huge thing for me

(56:51):
because I had this format thing of man, Jamie just
did this, like I'm out, I'm missing my time. And
when I got that servance package, like I was praying
about what to do with it, and I promised. Everybody
was like you're what, Like like I didn't take it
and go get a guitar. I didn't take it and
go invest it. I didn't, which was everything. I took

(57:12):
it and said I'm going to unknown land because I
saw it when I was twelve years old.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Well, yeah, it just does not meet the normal but timeline.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
There anybody out there that is creative to disappear?

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Dare you to do?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And I mean, we can't do it now, we're you know,
we have responsibilities. But it was time twenty three years old,
twenty four go do it. I hitchhiked, I met people,
I had a great time. I played in coffee shops.
I figured out how to basically do things on my own. Yeah,
up there. I disappeared. When I got back Alabama, Line

(57:49):
was still here, Erb and Steve were still at Losers.
Everybody was still doing They were like, oh where you been?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Like I was like New Zealand, New zem for three months.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
So I came back recharged, like remotivated to do all
that and that because I've been doing it four years
with party, you know, with within this at Losers, and
nobody had said anything because it was really wasn't that good.
It was just like I was stomping around playing she
talks to angels still at that level, and I was
getting better. I didn't know I was getting better, but

(58:22):
I was getting better. And it took I want to
say balls, Can I say it took the balls? Whatever
you want to go do that, but it really wasn't
balls at all. It was. It was really just like,
this is what I want to do right now. So anyway,
I did that, came back when I got back to
Nashville and was playing my gigs, I poured in to

(58:43):
that mentality of intros and outros and now I'll get
to the Jamie Paul and Jeremy Stover thing. God put
his hand on that I couldn't control that, I couldn't
control them walking in and then Jeremy introduced me to everybody,
to Laura right to Arkwright. I got three publishing offers

(59:04):
and four record deal four record offers. Luke Lewis came
in smoking a cigarette and I thought he was the
coolest thing ever. And I was like, I'm signing with
this dude and Brian Wright. I signed the record deal
at Universal, and once again Jamie had done his thing.
But now it's twenty thirteen. It's what happened in twenty fourteen. Well,

(59:26):
our friends you know, Tyler and Brian released a song
called Cruise, Well that changed everything sonically on what major
labels were getting played on radio.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Not just changed it, but like flipped molded it, flip
big song, flipped it and it wasn't what I was doing.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
And no, no, I love those guys. I love you know.
My path is my path. But it flipped everything that
twenty fourteen. So the timing of the simple life, the
fiddles and the things that were happening in my single
you Know it dies at twenty nine. But the purpose
of this story was like all of that happened and

(01:00:08):
I controlled none of it, Like it was all gut
feelings of it. I should go here, I should move
whatever that I'll be thing was, oh, this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Is easy, full circle, a pro move this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I'll be exactly what I'm supposed to be. Man, I
didn't mean to do that that was cheesy, So.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
No, I love I loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
This work ethic. Like I've always thought that I could
just literally sharpen the axe and just hack and hack
and hack and hack. And when when you got faith
you can go God, just open the doors that need
to be open and close the ones that need to
be closed. And I still bang my head up against
the wall sometimes because I watch people what it seems like,

(01:00:51):
fly past me or do that, but like it's exactly
where it needs to be. Yep, you know, and the
door's open as they're supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I feel like the sooner you can learn that you
can't control it, that the easier the ride. But let
me just say that's a battle I struggle with daily.
I want to control everything. I want to put things
in motion. I want to I want to work at this.
I want to prove myself with this so that it
opens this and boy and and ultimately in this town.

(01:01:21):
All you can do is write the song or sing
the song, Like depending on what it is that you do.
It's like you can just do what you do and
if it falls into the rotation of commercialism or what
people want to hear it at the time I was,
I was in the same boat. I mean I was
writing songs that were nowhere near cruise and when cruise popped, Man,

(01:01:41):
it was like I'm in trouble. And I was for
ten years, you know, until it kind of rotated back
around to where people wanted to hear what I consider
like organic y kind of country stuff. You know. But
part of that is, like you said, sharpening the axe
and learning how to stick around.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
But even when you listen, like if you when you
listen to your Spark record or the Optimistic record, I was.
I was listening to them coming in this morning. Man.
If I didn't know you, I would say, man, are
you are you trying to give people an insight on
on how you want to live or how you're living?
Like listen to those records, Well, listening to those records
makes me want to be outside more. It makes me

(01:02:23):
want to slow down my life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Man, that's such a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
I think both, man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I mean us as writers like I talk, I talk
about this a lot. Your your ideal self? What is
your ideal self? Like when you think about yourself, what
is what do you look like? How do you act?
What is the the self that you want to be
like I think I write a lot from the spirit
of a seven year old like this, just you know,

(01:02:50):
that's just got permission to drive that v bottom boat,
you know, through through the KUSA and like that freedom
of like you know, songs on Spark like back to Free.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
It's like, that's that's the barefoot boy that I will
always come from with music, and I will always chase
life with that tenacity or I hope to. Yeah, now
that's because that's my ideal stuff. I want to be
fun for hawk. I want to be fun for my
wife and be spontaneous and crazy and be the same
person that hitchhiked around New Zealand. You know, don't take

(01:03:26):
myself too serious. And you know, the injuries will come,
the setbacks will come, the drop record deals will come,
all of this stuff will come. But it's all about
keeping that twenty five Chrysler in that channel. Hey man,
there's a sandbar here. You might hit it, you know,
you might go here, but keep your rod chip up
and that like you're gonna catch a fish. That's it's

(01:03:49):
it's really really what I've faced all of these tumultuous
times when.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
We've known you. We knew you before you had your thing,
and then obviously we know you passed it. And bro,
you're the same. They're the same human.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Man. I don't feel like anything's I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Either, man. And that is so inspiring because like I've
always known that about you, like like without you even
telling me. I've seen that like tenacity that like give life.
You're all live life to the fullest, go at something
one hundred percent with all you've got, and and to
to sit here and listen to you on this couch
say that that was instilled you at a younger age. Man,

(01:04:31):
you're still doing that. You're you're still doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
I remember when Jonathan called us the night that that
happened on stage. He had called all of us and
before it hit socials and all that, and it was
just like it was shocking because I'm like, man, this
is like because it doesn't make sense to me, Like
this is one of the strongest like living dudes. I know,

(01:04:55):
how is this happening? And I mean, you know, we
prayed prayed for you and and all you kind of
take it with grace and take it with like acceptance
and not try to fight what had happened. But but
but just admittedly saying this is what's happened in my life.

(01:05:16):
I'm still breathing, I'm still kicking at least one leg,
you know what I mean, Like I'm still going, dude,
and I'm not playing on slowing down anytime soon. And
I think that was that was one of the most
beautiful inspiring things about the journey, was just seeing you
handle it and not make excuses and not go home.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Yeah, well because you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Could have, and you would have had a real good
excuse too, you know. Yeah. Man, I mean I can't
imagine how how how hard that was and getting through
it and working through it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Well, I think it goes back to you know, the
directions to the to the stand, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Not I'm not trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Be cute with that, Like it's like there's gonna be
a hard things. And for me, I'm glad that the
perception was that because my my my awesome wife, you know,
she she had to help me use the bathroom at times,
she had to help me do things, and there was
some it was I found out real quick that rock

(01:06:16):
Bottom had a basement and like it was below rock
Bottom and I was. I was mad for the first
time in my life. I was actually mad at God
like because everything was set up and everything was going great.
I had been dropped from Big Machine, and but I
was going out with Zach Brown and we had Australia

(01:06:39):
lined up and I just had this organic thing that
that I still have today. In this town is so
so great to support their people. So I don't want
this to sound ungrateful, but when something like this happens,
it's like we pray for you. But then with a stroke,

(01:07:02):
with a traumatic brain injury, it's a it's a lifelong
Like I go to therapy twice a week every week,
and the industry keeps going. So you get dropped, your buddies,
get signed, your things, get people keep moving, and like
I still have the visions of Madison Square Garden, three

(01:07:22):
knights in a row, I still had. I know that
those were instilled in me by the man that made
the mountains, you know, I know they were instilled in me,
and I know it's going to happen, and it's it's
not like I want it to happen so bad. I
can feel it. I still want to do it, and
there's a long time that the phone didn't ring, the
rights didn't come, the things, you know, But I prayed

(01:07:45):
to God that I would have an opportunity to write
from my couch. This is this is power prayer. And
I just had this walker with tennis balls on the
bottom of it, you know when I'm and I was
kind of I was not ashamed, but back to my mom.
The cosmocholgics looked good, smell good, feel good. Well, I

(01:08:06):
lost my swagger. My left side was, you know, I
couldn't be who I was. I felt like, But I
prayed that I could write from my couch. And Big
Tom called me and said, man, nobody's writing. Pandemic, said him, pandemic.
So this is right after the I got back on
my feet and how to walk again, which Alex taught

(01:08:29):
me how to do. She's like, you gotta go. We
ain't have kids yet. You got to get up and walk.
You gotta keep going, come on, and she's dragging me. Yeah,
that's where that came from. But Big Tom goes, drake,
pandemic set in Nobody's writing. A lot of people were
having trouble with this and saying no, and that's fine
if you do, but would you be willing to write

(01:08:50):
on zoom And I said, Tom, I just prayed two
days ago that God would give me the ability to
write from my couch, you know, and nobody knew what
zoom was. Everybody does now. The very first right was
Hurts the healing with Allison Belt's Cruise, the very first right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
And it's to spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Just yeah. It was just like, oh, I can do this,
I can do this. And so now we went this
whole last year, we went and we proved that we
were still alive, to the point where we opened one
of the songs with the Pearl Jams I'm still you know,

(01:09:33):
and left the crowd singing. It was awesome. So we
were like, we're still alive.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
We're still doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Because there was so many times where Nashville was moving,
everybody was rocking, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
I was watching, you know, all my buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Do their things and and and dude, I was like, hey,
I'm still I'm still here. I'm still doing this. Pandemic said,
nobody wants to do anything. It's where I'm at Kolbe,
where I'm at Riley, all these all these folks and
everything's just going. And there's a lot of frustration in
those times for me, because I'm like I still have

(01:10:06):
these these visions and these things, but that song, that
those songs, and me playing those eighty weeks in the
barn every Wednesday night, meeting those people and seeing a
live stream come through like up and I would write
during the day and then push it all a Wednesday,
we play it in front of the four or five
thousand people that were watching online. And then the more comments,

(01:10:30):
the more I leaned into the songs. I pushed an
independent record out because I'd been dropped, and I scraped
up money from t shirt sales offline because.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
That was really great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
And then I was very unashamedly I was open with
my Venmo, my PayPal, like hey, I don't I've been
through this injury and paid for all these metical expences,
and I'm opening up in those I remember the very
first night we got like seven grand. Wow, And I
was like, whoa that that that's significant, you know, and

(01:11:03):
so that you multiply. I'm not saying we did seven
grand every night. That was like everybody was fresh and
happy that that went from three hundred dollars some nights
to two thousand to one hundred dollars to fifty bucks,
started doing cameos, started just digging, dude back to my
let's go landscape. Let's go. I mean, I will prove

(01:11:26):
to you I'm here. I will hit that in practice
to my hands bleed. I'll keep my rod chip up.
Let's keep going and pushing in to this. We played
eighty wednesdays in a row until Wednesdays and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
It was a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
That's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
And we had, you know, a bunch of guests kept
came in and you know, Kid Rock came in and
uh Kobe Kla and just a bunch of friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
You were one of the big things. You were one
of the tell the main attractions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
And I say this openly. This may sound a little pompous,
but Eric Church won the Entertainer of the Year that
year and I think it was unrightfully. So I'm the
only one that played Eric. And I told my managers that.
My manager at the time was like, what do you
I said, y'all need to make c M A and
ACM create an award. This is gonna like, I don't care.

(01:12:16):
At this point, I taught myself to walk again. Create
an award that is like a miscongeniality award, like an
optimistic award. This dude, like create it, create it and
give it to me, because I need something to keep
this crap this train online. Like my wife has just
helped me wipe my butt, like I need to, I

(01:12:38):
need to, I need to, I need something. I need
something from this and God would just give me just
enough to be like if you'll keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
And this is why I'm so excited, because.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I'm not afraid to call you know, my contacts, you know, Luke,
and go, hey man.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
You said you wanted to write. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
It looks like yeah, let's do it all right, So
that's come rally same way. Well that that side's cool.
But God bless our good buddy Jonathan Singleton because he
said he's you know, Nashville will go if you ever
need me, call me. Well I called a lot of
people and Jonathan always picked up. And Jonathan's like, well, dude,

(01:13:23):
why don't we just make a record?

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Cool, why don't we make a record.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So here we go. And Jonathan's obviously had all his
success and he's got his uh that little rinky dink
studio at his house now and this is barely put together,
and he, you know, blanket. So we go down to
Mississippi to Dave Duncan's and I'm getting to the point of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Like shat out of David Dunking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Yeah, I love it to the point in Ramsey, Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
And we go down there and we make a record
this little rinky dingk studio down there beside the house.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
But it's got this got about two million dollars worth
rinky dink.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
So we go down there and we Jonathan shout out
to him again because he helped me. He didn't He's not.
I'm not helping it. I want to do this like
I want to. I mean, he doesn't take projects as
he doesn't want to do. But we go down there
and we do my favorite music ever, and it's you know,
that's what we're about to. Our first single is called

(01:14:26):
ten Pounds a five pound Bag, and you know it's
just exactly what you would think Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee thing
that now with the wild West, I call it the
zach Renaissance.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
I'll quit using that one day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I don't know if it's cool yet, but that what
that's afforded us the right to do is what we've
been doing. Like I've been doing that my whole yeah
since I'll know, I've been singing like and so now
it's cool again and so that back and practice me
mentality of like I don't quit. It's just like it

(01:15:02):
comes back around everything absolute cycles background, and that's where
we're at right now. You know, we're about to release
this record. I bought my bus last year. We got
our numbers are back where they need to be, uh touring.
I've got a team. We just had this big meeting
day before yesterday, and it finally feels like I'm moving again.

(01:15:24):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Man Hometown healings on that record, right, That's what I'm
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
That's why I love that man Lutz is awesome too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Jacob Lutz is I'm sure that was poring that thing
you trying to say. But here's apart the show for
the one the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
I like that, like that all right, I'll tell the guitar.
I'll tell the old the old story. It's a deer
hunting story. I feel like y'all appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Deer worries.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I'll keep it short because Riley's involved, and he calls me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
We don't know each other growing up. Riley's five years younger.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
And he's from I just thought you were life Life
on Buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
He's five from five miles from where I'm from. What
he's literally three miles actually, it's it's like right over
the mountain. And get invited four years ago, right up
basically the year after the stroke to go to Honey
Break in Louisiana. Drew Keither here for the Turkey Convention,
and everybody's here, so I got to go see them.
But I go out there and make friends with everybody

(01:16:36):
at Honeybreak and kill this really nice you know, one
hundred and forty inch, hundred and forty five inch, one
hundred and seventy two nights, one hundred and forty hundred
forty you want eight really good deer. And it was
the deer that kind of I've got this concept that
I'm going to do called the hunts, the healing off
of the Yeah. And because i saw a picture of

(01:16:57):
a deer behind my house that I'm sure I've showed
y'all seventy two times. It's like one hundred and eighty
inch deer, a giant deer, and it it legitimately healed
me because I went to my trainer and was like,
can you teach me to climb a last Yeah? I
got to be able to hunt this and he was like,
you can't, you can't walk.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Yeah, But I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I got it and set you know, leads on all
my stands and Alex was standing at the bottom of
this little stand now, you know, with a crossbow. And
it literally healed me because I had something to look
forward to. So the the one that got away. I
go back the second year and there's this deer that

(01:17:37):
they call pitchfork, had big splits on his brow ties,
like big split brow ties, like beautiful. I'm talking five
year old, one hundred and sixty five. I'm not even
kidding hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
I've got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I got it on my phone shape. So he has
a three hundred PRC that's like, and that's all. That's
an awesome bigara. And and i'd killed that eight pointer
with it, and long story about the reason we were
using that gun, all right, but I hadn't. I hadn't
shot that gun that day. You'll know where I'm going.
And I hadn't shot that gun, and he had let

(01:18:15):
somebody borrow it. And this deer we've been hunting for,
you know, a couple of days he comes out and
I'm just like, and he's like three hundred yards away,
and he moves to probably three fifty. He kind of
pushes and then gets sideways and presents the shot and
I squeezed it off perfect, and it goes and hits

(01:18:38):
the top of his back, like I'm talking just like
white for not not scrap just scrapes him runs off devastated.
I don't know that, Like, I think I've hit it.
I think I've drilled it, because he kicks and bucks
and so I'm like, all right, and Drew's like, man,
you got it, We'll find it, don't worry about it. Well,

(01:19:00):
that never found it. He shoots the gun like two
weeks later, and at one hundred yards it was five
inches high and two inches right, and so that deer
is one hundred and sixty inch every bit of it deer.
And they see it back on camera and he's lost.

(01:19:23):
So if you if you wound a deer on the
right side, the trauma of that two hundred grand bullet opposite,
he lost the opposite side of his right so he
dropped it, and he's like, don't worry about it. We'll
come back next year and he'll be what he Well,
he came back next year and he's got this massive
side and then he's got this weird, messed up side.

(01:19:44):
But I was still like, how cool would it be?
Yeah to kill that role st I mean, it's super well.
I never did get back over there, and he kind
of either he disappeared or somebody somebody killed him. But
that's definitely the one that got away. And it takes
me back. What's that movie that like, you never trust?
What is it an unused weapon or an untrusted weapon?

(01:20:06):
You never hunt with a untrusted weapon? And it it's
so true because it got away and I should have
shot my own gun, and my dad, my uncle's, everybody
tore me. You went to a place like that and
did what you've got and you took guns?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
In the world did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Drake?

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Just hoping a stand say give me a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
And they they ate me up because I because the
two by four mentality. And now I'm in a redneck
you know, with a heater in there, and and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I've got somebody else's barrel.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
I've got a biguard barrel and shooting sticks. Man, it's
dead on man, and I'm telling you it was it
was my fault, but it was not my fault. It
was my fault. But Drew what it did. God knew
what he was doing because he knew I would have
a son. He's sovereign, right, he's all knowing. So it
made me go back year after year. Well, now me

(01:21:00):
and Drew's like boys, and me and Tyler Jordan's like boys,
and so we're in. We're in, and it's like you
get to go back and I don't shoot the bigar anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Maybe maybe you kill that deer at eleven years old
and he's unbelievable, right, you never know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
That's exactly right. Maybe maybe Hawk kills it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Right, tip, dudeatip, you always going back, got to maybe
Hawk does that would be even years old, fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I don't want him to do it eleven. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
I hate when kids do that. No, I don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Sorry, I got too mean.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I love when kids kill a deer, but it's like
you just killed one hundred and ninety inch deer at
eight spoiled. What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Gavorite gravorite country song?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Here's what we're doing, a playlist with what everybody says,
and so far, I don't think you might have said
the same one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I think that's a tough, that's a that's a really.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
That's why I think it has to be more like
your own personal song that you just kind of as
opposed to greatest that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
That makes it possible possible for me. So every morning
when I'm going hunting, I'll turn on uh Don Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Lord, hope this day is good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I knew you were gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
For some reason in my brain, I knew you were
gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
And man, before the sun comes up, you got that
coffee and it's standing up and it's like you're hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
I hope it is good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
You know, you get it, y'all get it. Get the
bike closer to the gaiton to hear Dan. No, he
can't because he don't have a mic. You sing it,
I'll sing harmony.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah, Lord, I hope this day is good. I'm feeling
guilty and miss understood. I should be thankful. Lord. I
knew I should, my lord, I hope this days is good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Locking to the stand with the coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Bro, have you for got me?

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I'm is that right? Yeah, I'm feeling empty. It's just
it's one of those things for me that it's it
just makes everything all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Yeah, you know all this because everything is gonna be
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Everything's all gonna be alright in the end. So if
it ain't all right, it ain't the end.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
What's the bridge?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
What's the thing that's a really good way to end
this thing? Yeah, say that one more time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
I said, Uh, everything's gonna be all right in the end.
So if it ain't all right, it ain't the end.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Amen, Drake white Man, Dude, let's get around with pass
for this guy. W Man w church this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
I got inspired and just getting to hang out with
you and I'm proud to call you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
But yeah, and I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
You're glad you're here with us, and thanks for coming by.
We'll do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
I appreciate you all for for chatting me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Absolutely music coming soon, every Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Tour go see Drake Watt. Thanks for hanging out in
God's Country.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
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