April 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Pelosi loses it over economy, abortion on MSNBC. UCLA protesters bar Jewish students from going to class. Red states handling protests different than blue states. Ex-senator Ben Sasse standing up to protesters at University of Florida. Four Charlotte police officers killed in shootout.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of the Clay Travison Buck Section Show gets
off to a fantastic start right now. We're very excited
to have you all with us. A lot of stories
to dive into. Those campus protests still insane, insane in
the membrane. They are doing crazy stuff on these campus sees.
(00:23):
So we will look at what the latest is. We
will look at what the GW campus is going to
do as a result of the defacing. It is the
George Washington University campus where Clay is a distinguished alumni.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Why don't they ask you to come speak? By the way,
what kind of nonsense is I've never been invited to speak.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They've asked me for a lot of money, I will say,
to be fair to them, the athletic department has hosted
me for a basketball game before, but I've never been
in It is kind of funny to think about never
been invited to bring you to a basketball game though,
So what I'm at sports g I mean, wouldn't you
think they would invite me to speak? I mean, how
many people of my age that graduated from GW have
(01:07):
done more in media?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, you know why? You know why?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's I was invited to speak at Amherst before I
ever did media. When I was in the CIA, they
wanted me to call up and give speeches, and they
invite me since I started, since I went to work
for Glenn at the Blaze.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Never again, never since then have they reached out.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So you would gwoun want as many successful alums to
come to campus, regardless of how they are are successful, right,
I mean that seems like a no brainer to me.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, except if you're a communist, you don't care about
success or truth. So GW campus has defaced the GW
statue George himself, that's right, Father of the nation.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They have defaced that statue.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So on the one hand, we continue to talk about
the ideology, the toxic ideas of the left and how
they're playing on on these campuses. But also there's a
part of me that's like they kind of getting what
they deserve on some of these campuses in terms of
the administrations being in disarray and the whole thing being
a mess. We shall discuss plus a meeting with Trump
(02:12):
and DeSantis.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think we told you here many times.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Even with things we're a little bit a little bit testy,
little feisty between the Trump and DeSantis camps of supporters
during the primary. Said they're going to they're gonna hug
it out, and they're gonna be on the same team
for the benefit of the country. And sure enough, Trump
himself has said great meeting, ron fully on board MAGA.
(02:38):
And we'll break some of that down for you because
I and also it's a little bit of we promised
you what would happen. Some of you doubted it, but
it is in fact what is going on. Statement from
ut on how they're handling the protests. I think that's
particularly interesting. If we have time, we'll get to this
Arizona rancher who was charged in the shooting of a
of an illegal on his property, who will not be
(02:59):
retry after a jury was deadlocked.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think that's an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Goes back away as we talked to you about it,
I think a couple of years ago, now, maybe a
year ago, two years ago. And we've got a lot more,
but Clay, let's start with this one. We haven't heard
much from Nancy Pelosi these days. You know, Nancy's been
a little quiet. I don't know, she's taken some naps
to sleep it off. After a third bottle of chardonnay,
and Nancy showed up on MSNBC. If there's one thing
(03:27):
it would be hard to accuse MSNBC of one would
think it's Trump apologies or being apologists on behalf of
Donald Trump. Pelosi was talking to Katie Terr, who apparently
still works in media. Pelosi was not happy with this exchange.
We want to break it down for you because it
goes to where the economy is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
This is cut six.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
There are those who have religion andate concerns about immigration, globalization,
innovation and what does that mean for their job and
their family's future. And we have to dress those concerns.
And Joe Biden is doing that. Created nine million jobs
in his tournament office. Donald Trump as the worst record
(04:09):
of job loss of any president, So we just have
to make sure people know that was.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
A global pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
He had the worst record of any president. We've had
other concerns in our country. If you want to be
an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role,
but it ain't mine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So, first of all, so nasty, and I think it's
because she's looking at Katie Turr like you're a propagandist
and a fool. You're supposed to just go along with.
What could be more dishonest than claiming that the pandemic
which caused a shutdown that Democrats demanded, shrieking that they
were all being murdered if they didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Those job losses are on Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think it's illustrative of how many Democrats are. Arguments
collapse with one sentence of opposition. And when I saw
this clip that went viral of Katie Terror at MSNBC
actually just bothering to correct Nancy Pelosi on a transparent falsehood. Frankly,
(05:17):
because in February of twenty twenty, right before COVID overtook
the country, and as you point out, Democrats insisted that
everybody stop working and everything shut down, we had the
lowest unemployment rate, virtually no inflation, lowest mortgage rates, highest
employment rate for every different ethnic and racial group that
(05:40):
I'm aware of in the United States history. We were
at that time at the absolute apex economically ever in
the United States history. And I think that's why, looking
back nostalgically, many people remember now the Trump era with fondness,
But this was also emblematic to me of what happened
to Gavin Newsom. When Gavin Newsom debated Ron DeSantis and
(06:03):
got completely and totally filayed in the Sean Hannity primetime special.
It was because Hannity didn't really do anything other than
present facts. But Gavin Newsom lives in that alternative facts
universe of MSNBC and CNN, and he walked right into
a buzzsaw and got obliterated because Florida handled COVID better
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than California did as an objective measure of fact in
every respect. And so when that's actually pointed out and
when you have to deal with it, Democrats don't react
very well. In fact, Nancy Pelosi really kind of lost
it there that she was questioned in any way on
MSNBC and then called Katie Turror Trump propagandist for pointing out, Hey,
(06:53):
you know, COVID was going on, and they've made this
argument because Biden came back in, they started to open
back up. I think the math is buck, there are
most of the job growth in Joe Biden, if you
take away the people who just got to go back
to the jobs that they already had, is actually in
illegal immigrants. The number of new American citizen jobs that
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have existed during Joe Biden's tenure is not very substantial
at all. So they're cooking the books here to make
Biden's economic numbers look better than they actually are, and
the numbers still aren't that great. Well, to say that
the worst job losses.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
In history occurred under Donald Trump, when the truth is
it was a pandemic and that the criticism of Trump
from the Democrats, including from Nancy Pelosi, was that he
didn't shut down more, he didn't shut down harder for longer.
It is so disingenuous, and it just requires Nancy Pelosi
just spewing this venom of stupidity, which she does all
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the time, where it just doesn't matter to her in
the least how untrue and what a big pile of
bull crap it is that she's pushing forward to the
point where even even Katie Turrea, I think, realized it
would be embarrassing. It would be embarrassing for her to
go along with that, because there are a lot of
things that they can and do say about Donald Trump,
(08:17):
but to pretend like the job losses of the pandemic
are representative of the Trump economy Trumpet comedy was fantastic.
Joe Biden's economy stinks. Everybody knows it. And so what
Pelosi does is try out that talking point. There's that,
but then there's also this Pelosi saying that after the election,
Democrats and they've said this about other things before, but
(08:40):
that they would be willing to nuke the filibuster and
go for a national abortion law.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Seven play it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
And if President Biden gets re elected and there's a
Democratic House and a Democratic Senate, what can President Biden
the Democrats do to protect abortion nationwide?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Very clearly, we can line into the wall Roe v.
Wade and that makes a big diff.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
That would take two thirds in the Senate. I think
the Democrats can get two thirds in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Doesn't get two thirds, that doesn't it. I mean, sixty
votes is the Senate now. But if we win fifty
plus one in the Senate, fifty plus the Vice president,
we can overturn the sixty vote, the filibuster, the philibuster,
and pass it with a fifty one vote margin.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
First of all, that would be inviting the just continued changes.
With every change of the Senate and the House, you
would have this back and forth over something as serious
and intense as they fight over abortion laws. But even
beyond that, I do think that Clay the Democrats will
get rid of the filibuster. I don't know if it's
(09:47):
on this issue. It may be, but it is just
a matter of time. Let's not forget it was Democrats
who initially started this fight by getting rid of it
when it comes to judges, so it was Harry Reid.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I also think it would be a funny response to
the Nancy Pelosi commentary, not only on the filibuster, but
particularly on the job creation by Joe Biden and her
attack on Trump that he had the worst job record ever.
You know, FDR had a really rough record when it
came to soldiers who died while he was president too.
(10:20):
He didn't choose World War two to start and he
had to get involved. But if you compared let's say
FDR's presidential loss of life to Hoover's, then FDR would
look atrocious because World War II happened. So it just
takes the barest minimum of pushback to say, well, that's
(10:42):
because of COVID and because of Democrat policies. But her
anger at the fact that that was even raised as
an issue is indicative of how much I believe they
have come to anticipate total propagandistic media to further their arguments,
even when they are intellectually dishonest, and even when they're
(11:03):
talking to someone who's inclined to believe the arguments that
they're making.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It almost felt like Nancy was about to fall out
of her chair, not on a drunken stupor, but but
to express her outrage at Katie Turf for not understanding
Biden's behind in every swing stack. Right now in the polls,
Biden is losing ground with each passing day.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
This is not going the way the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I really think now we're deep enough into the legal
stuff that we can see Democrats thought the legal stuff
would sing Trump. They were wrong, yes, meeting in public opinion.
I don't know what's going to happen with the actual trials,
but they thought public opinion would turn against Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
If they used the law fair.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They use the law fair canon the way that they
have and it's the opposite. And I think that they
are panicked because I don't have any good plan b.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's turned into potentially the most destructive own goal in
modern American political history. Now there's still six months out.
We'll talk about some of the latest numbers. So maybe
they still think they're going to get some benefit of it.
But right now Trump has painted them into a corner.
And even these discussions about contempt of court I think
are making the Democrats look worse. We'll talk about all
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. While many
of us were sleeping last night, the Columbia University protesters
stormed a building and took control of it. This also
comes on the heels of at UCLA. They're being student protesters.
(13:57):
I don't know if you saw this viral video. Buck,
a Jewish student was asking to be allowed to walk
through the campus and followers anti Israel protesters pro hamas
whoever you want to cover, you want to classify. These
protesters refuse to let the Jewish student into the campus,
(14:18):
and Dave Ruben pointed out YouTube has a great show,
been on this show quite a few times. Dave Rubin
pointed out that if there was ever a situation where
a black student was refused access to some part of campus,
the entire world would come undone. They would call in
(14:38):
the National Guard, The students who were refusing access would
be arrested. They would become absolute infidels in the idea
of the country. They would they would never be able
to get jobs, their lives would be ruined. But these
protesters who are anti Israel are doing it to Jewish
students and and they aren't even taking any action at UCLA.
(15:02):
Gavin Newsom, who claims to care about equality and tolerance
and truth and justice and all these things, isn't taking
any action. Joe Biden isn't taking any action. It's coast
to coast now. The only places that are taking action
are Southern states and Red states. And I want to
give credit Buck. I want to read this opening. I
(15:23):
don't know if you saw this in your new home
state of Florida, but the University of Florida put out
a statement last night which I thought was absolutely fantastic
as it pertains to how they were dealing with students.
And the statement begins if you didn't see this, which
is pran to a This is from the University of
(15:44):
Florida in response made to the arrests of protesters. This
is their official statement. This is not complicated. The University
of Florida is not a daycare. We do not treat
protesters like children. They knew the rules, they broke the rules,
and they'll face the consequences. For many days, we patiently
told protesters, many of whom are outside agitators, they were
(16:06):
able to exercise their right to free speech and free assembly.
But we told them that clearly prohibited activities would result
in trespassing orders, and they took action against them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Bravo.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Still hasn't happened at Columbia. Still hasn't happened at UCLA.
Blue state, blue city universities are unable to protect students
and allow content neutral policies.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, my wife is a University of Florida alumna,
and yes, very proud. We were talking about this last night,
very proud of her school's response this. I must give
credit to Ben Sass, former Republican senator from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He is the chancellor or the president or whatever you
call it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's your head honcho of the of uff and he's
doing exactly the right thing. And I think that these
schools in these states just the same way that people
saw crazy co with policies and horrible crime policies and
all these things and said, I'm moving to places that
are making different decisions. I think schools like U of
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f ut Austin, although Austin's obviously in a very liberal place,
they're going to be rising up in the rankings, and
more and more people are gonna want They're already very
good schools, but more and more people are going to
want to go to those schools because ultimately, why go
to a school where you've got a bunch of communists
calling the shots if there's no benefit to it and
you have a better experience with bet with better weather
(17:29):
in Florida or Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm curious what your answer would be when we come back,
and I'm even curious how you guys would respond out there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
I'll confess.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
When Ben Sas left of the Senate, I thought to
take the job at the University of Florida. I thought
to myself, Wow, he's really stepping down in terms of
his influence. Is he actually having far more influence as
the president of the University of Florida on the nation
as a whole than he did as a senator from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
We'll talk about it.
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Chakin Analytics. Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. So we're
talking about the campus protest, obviously, and what's going on
with the different reactions to it. I think some schools
(19:05):
are making exactly the right move. We were talking at
UFF a second ago. Play asked me is Ben Sas
having more influence at the University of Florida than he
did as a United States Senator from Nebraska. I think
the answer is probably yes, at least in this moment,
given that he was pretty anti Trump and there wasn't
(19:29):
really a lot of room for him in the Republican Party,
which is why, I think, or for him to maneuver
the way he wanted to, which is why he stopped
his political career at least for a time and went
to do his duties at the University of Florida. By
the way, I'm sure being big president or chancellor or
whatever one of these big universities anywhere, just as a
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quality of life thing, it's a great gig.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They're making seven figures in a lot of these places.
Let's let's say you're making a million bucks, you're housing,
you get to live in some mansion. That's all appointed
and set up for you. When you move into your mansion,
you go to cocktail parties, you hang out with donors,
you go to some meetings I don't know. You get
to like work out in the school, gym, use all
the facilities. It's a great gig. I'd do sporting events.
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You have an incredible suite for all the big sporting
events to go to. I would have thought, and I'll
admit it, when he left to go to the University
of Florida, I thought, there's no way that I can't
believe he's giving up a Senate seat to go be
a president of a state university.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was totally wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I think what he has done in terms of standing
up for free speech on a content neutral basis at
the University of Florida is more impactful than he could
have been as a senator at Nebraska. And I think
about these kind of things a lot. One reason that
I do the show with you today, Buck is I
still love sports, not going to pretend that I don't.
(20:56):
I was doing sports soccer radio. Our boss who were
going to be with this weekend, Julie Talbot at the
Kentucky Derby. I don't think we've said, we're going to
be there yet. It's going to be a lot of fun,
you and I and our wives. She said, Look, I
know you love sports.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like sports.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You could have way more influence on this show in
terms of the things that you truly care about than
you could continue to talk about sports. And that was
incredibly persuasive to me to do this. And I think
there are lots of you out there. Whatever you do
in your life, you're listening to us, and you are
really honestly troubled on a profound degree by what you
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see happening, let's say, on the university campuses right now,
what you see happening in the country. Because, as we've
said for some time, it's one thing to argue what
the corporate tax rate should be or whether you should
and you could have a variety of opinions. I think
they should be low, but you could have a variety
of opinions on those. You can have a difference of opinion,
let's say, on how exactly to implement hiring practices, or
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what you should do when it comes to socioeconomic admissions
or legacy admissions. All these things are really interesting questions.
Whether America is good or evil is a profound question,
and I think a lot of you out there are
contemplating whatever you do in your life, how can you
be the most impactful. And we need to invite Ali
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Ben sas On because I would love to hear how
he worked through the process to make the decision him
going to the University of Florida and standing up for
free speech and for the rights of all students to
be able to speak, but also for content neutral policies
to be applied. Is how you win the next generation.
And to your point, Buck, I think there are a
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lot of people out there who maybe historically twenty years ago,
going to Columbia with something a lot of people would
aspire to do. Being at an Ivy League school would
make a tremendous difference in your life. I've seen a
ton of people who have really great academic credentials who decided,
you know what, I'm done with this Northeastern crazy left
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wing bs. I want my kids to go to the
University of Georgia, or the University of Florida, or the
University of Alabama or the University of Tennessee. When I
went away to college in DC, the idea that moms
and dads in New York and California would be encouraging
their kids to go to a Southeastern Conference school, or
to go to Clemson or Florida State or the University
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of Texas, which I guess now is an SEC school.
Bucket would have been crazy. Now it's almost impossible to
get into a lot of these SEC schools. You had
to have a pulse to get into the University of
Tennessee when I was graduating from high school in nineteen
ninety seven. There are tons of kids with three fives
in good SAT and ACT scores from the state of
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Tennessee now that can't get into the University of Tennessee
because the out of state quality of applicant has skyrocketed.
Over half of the students at the University of Alabama
now are from out of state.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
If you grew up in LA or New York City,
the idea that you would be sending your kid to
Alabama to get an education in two thousand, you would
have been crazy. Now they're fighting to get in.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I mean, my sister went to Davidson and I applied
to vandal Actually, so I mean there's Davidson.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I would say there are some Davidson is an elite
Acadavidson Vanderbilt a bunch of schools that have been popular.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Would you apply to an SEC school? I did not
apply to that. Well, I don't know what the SEC was. Okay, right,
So in two thousand years you graduate high school O.
Three h four.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No, I don't like a decade before you. I can't
do Yeah, exactly, I graduated in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Okay, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
If you had walked into the the the admissions office
in two thousand at your elite high school and you
had said, hey, I'm trying to decide between Amherst and LSU,
your your admissions counselor would have strangled you to death
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on like in that admissions office. I bet you that
there are starting to be conversations in your high school
now where somebody walks in and there like, hey, I
got a full ride to the University of Georgia or
I could go and have to pay nearly full freight
to go to Cornell.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I can tell you I had a legit argument. I
had a friend. I think it's called the Jefferson Scholarship
at UVA. Yes, I applied for that. Who got the
Jefferalship at UVA and got in. He was a white
Irish Catholic kid. He got into Harvard and he got
the Jefferson scholarship at UVA, and he went to Harvard
and took out loans. And I think that was I
think that was.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
The wrong call. I think that was the wrong call.
My thought is the wrong call. Then my final call
for college was GW or UVA.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I had a scholarship to both, and you can maybe
argue I made the wrong decision. I actually went to
GW because it was in d C. And I've got
a little bit bigger scholarship. But I really thought deeply
about that, and I still wonder if I made the
right decision, you know, long range. But that was an
elite college school. I guarantee you now those debates are
going on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I talked to people abou this at the time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Carrie said to me last night, she said, you know,
obviously we're hoping to start the family in the next year.
You know, God gone willing and saying prayers about it.
But she said, you know, what would you think if
if we had a son or daughter you know who
knows yep, And they wanted to go to UPS, and
I think that would be amazing. I think that would
be fantastic. I think that going to a place where
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you're going to have a really good experience. And for
I know, we have more parents of children listening to
us than we do teenagers who are thinking about going
to college. But the experience and having having a really
sort of positive four years where you learn a lot
and grow a lot's.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
More important than the resume bullet.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And I speak to somebody who took a job instead
of going to I got into a couple of Ivy
League MBA programs, and you know, I just looked at
how much time it would be off the working line
and how much debt I'd go into. I had no money.
I mean I had like, you know, like a thousand
dollars in the bank to my name when I was
applying to these schools and I decided to go work
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for Glenn instead. I think it was the best, other
than marrying my wife, the best adult decision I ever made.
And I think that people are going to see this
play as also part of the big red state Blue
state storting. I mean, it's COVID put into motion, very
clear differences in philosophy, in governing philosophy, but also in
life philosophy that's playing out with the massive migrations. And
(27:32):
again I speak from experience to somebody who I don't
think anybody loved New York from the early nineteen eighties
until the you know late too, you know the twenty
ten era more than me. But I decided it was
time to change it up. And I think you're seeing
that with these schools too because of the protests. But
everything the protest is just one symptom of the larger
malady that's going on. I can tell you I don't
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pay a lot of attention to where somebody went to college,
because we don't hire a lot of twenty two year olds.
I'm more interested in your work product at OutKick, and
when I've had impact in being able to hire over
the years, I can't tell you how many of where
everybody went to college that we employ now at OutKick.
I can tell you that if I was starting a
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new company and I was hiring twenty two year olds,
I would be more likely to hire an SEC college graduate.
And I'm including like Clemson and Florida State Ish schools
in that mix, right, sec footprint schools Southern state footprints
than I would a Columbia grad. And I don't think
there's any way I would have said that twenty years ago.
(28:37):
And I bet there's a lot of you out there
now who are in that hiring universe. And when you
see a University of Florida resume, you kind of perk
up a little bit, and when you see a Columbia resume,
you kind of cringe a little bit because of what
you're seeing on those campuses. I'm going to be doing
this soon because my sixteen year old who's going to
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be a junior next year. It's kind of when you
start to look at colleges and I'm gonna let him
make his own choices and he's got his own resume
and life ideals like anybody else, and I'm gonna be
going around to a lot of these campuses and visiting
them with him, and I'm curious to see it twenty
years later. I can tell you, for instance, as a parent,
(29:20):
when I read the Vanderbilt University statement on the first
Amendment from their new chancellor that was in the Wall
Street Journal and the fact that they kicked the kids
who broke the rules and attacked a guard out of
school immediately. It makes me feel way better about paying
tuition to Vanderbilt than I would if they had a
(29:41):
tent encampment there right now. And if there are tent
encampments on college campuses, if I were looking now, I
would cross those off my list. I'll let my sixteen
year old make his own decisions, but I'm going to
be in this process soon, and.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
There are a lot of these big state schools where
I would say, you know what, if you're especially if
you're in the honors college, if you get the opportunity
to go to those schools, I would say, take it
potentially over the Ivy League. Also, if you go to
go to grad school. My advice for people out there,
money's not unlimited. If you were going to spend money,
I would spend money on a law school, a medical school,
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something like that, business school, maybe at an elite place
over undergrad degree I know you're going to go. I
know very few people now who look back on their MBA.
I have a lot of friends who got MBAs.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's actually very common coming out of the government that
think that their NBA was really worth it. It was
kind of like two years of socializing and beer drinking
as an adult while you figured out your Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Gig not not pically worth.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Do not allow your kid to do a journalism degree. Okay,
there's no need. Journalism is called. We agree on that.
I don't know a lot about business school. I love
the law school, and I do think it's been useful.
The Vanderbilt Law School was probably the best three years
of my life. I feel like it was credible, But
I certainly understand why it's a totally different world. Why
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I think it was ten thousand percent greater chance.
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It's up on the Daily Mail.
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We could probably borrow the video and put it up
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Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of the Clay Travison Buck Section Show gets
off to a fantastic start right now. We're very excited
to have you all with us. A lot of stories
to dive into. Those campus protests still insane, insane in
the membrane. They are doing crazy stuff on these campus sees.
(00:23):
So we will look at what the latest is. We
will look at what the GW campus is going to
do as a result of the defacing. It is the
George Washington University campus where Clay is a distinguished alumni.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Why don't they ask you to come speak? By the way,
what kind of nonsense is I've never been invited to speak.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They've asked me for a lot of money, I will say,
to be fair to them, the athletic department has hosted
me for a basketball game before, but I've never been
in It is kind of funny to think about never
been invited to bring you to a basketball game though,
So what I'm at sports g I mean, wouldn't you
think they would invite me to speak? I mean, how
many people of my age that graduated from GW have
(01:07):
done more in media?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, you know why? You know why?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's I was invited to speak at Amherst before I
ever did media. When I was in the CIA, they
wanted me to call up and give speeches, and they
invite me since I started, since I went to work
for Glenn at the Blaze.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Never again, never since then have they reached out.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So you would gwoun want as many successful alums to
come to campus, regardless of how they are are successful, right,
I mean that seems like a no brainer to me.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, except if you're a communist, you don't care about
success or truth. So GW campus has defaced the GW
statue George himself, that's right, Father of the nation.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They have defaced that statue.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So on the one hand, we continue to talk about
the ideology, the toxic ideas of the left and how
they're playing on on these campuses. But also there's a
part of me that's like they kind of getting what
they deserve on some of these campuses in terms of
the administrations being in disarray and the whole thing being
a mess. We shall discuss plus a meeting with Trump
(02:12):
and DeSantis.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think we told you here many times.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Even with things we're a little bit a little bit testy,
little feisty between the Trump and DeSantis camps of supporters
during the primary. Said they're going to they're gonna hug
it out, and they're gonna be on the same team
for the benefit of the country. And sure enough, Trump
himself has said great meeting, ron fully on board MAGA.
(02:38):
And we'll break some of that down for you because
I and also it's a little bit of we promised
you what would happen. Some of you doubted it, but
it is in fact what is going on. Statement from
ut on how they're handling the protests. I think that's
particularly interesting. If we have time, we'll get to this
Arizona rancher who was charged in the shooting of a
of an illegal on his property, who will not be
(02:59):
retry after a jury was deadlocked.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think that's an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Goes back away as we talked to you about it,
I think a couple of years ago, now, maybe a
year ago, two years ago. And we've got a lot more,
but Clay, let's start with this one. We haven't heard
much from Nancy Pelosi these days. You know, Nancy's been
a little quiet. I don't know, she's taken some naps
to sleep it off. After a third bottle of chardonnay,
and Nancy showed up on MSNBC. If there's one thing
(03:27):
it would be hard to accuse MSNBC of one would
think it's Trump apologies or being apologists on behalf of
Donald Trump. Pelosi was talking to Katie Terr, who apparently
still works in media. Pelosi was not happy with this exchange.
We want to break it down for you because it
goes to where the economy is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
This is cut six.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
There are those who have religion andate concerns about immigration, globalization,
innovation and what does that mean for their job and
their family's future. And we have to dress those concerns.
And Joe Biden is doing that. Created nine million jobs
in his tournament office. Donald Trump as the worst record
(04:09):
of job loss of any president, So we just have
to make sure people know that was.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
A global pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
He had the worst record of any president. We've had
other concerns in our country. If you want to be
an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role,
but it ain't mine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So, first of all, so nasty, and I think it's
because she's looking at Katie Turr like you're a propagandist
and a fool. You're supposed to just go along with.
What could be more dishonest than claiming that the pandemic
which caused a shutdown that Democrats demanded, shrieking that they
were all being murdered if they didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Those job losses are on Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think it's illustrative of how many Democrats are. Arguments
collapse with one sentence of opposition. And when I saw
this clip that went viral of Katie Terror at MSNBC
actually just bothering to correct Nancy Pelosi on a transparent falsehood. Frankly,
(05:17):
because in February of twenty twenty, right before COVID overtook
the country, and as you point out, Democrats insisted that
everybody stop working and everything shut down, we had the
lowest unemployment rate, virtually no inflation, lowest mortgage rates, highest
employment rate for every different ethnic and racial group that
(05:40):
I'm aware of in the United States history. We were
at that time at the absolute apex economically ever in
the United States history. And I think that's why, looking
back nostalgically, many people remember now the Trump era with fondness,
But this was also emblematic to me of what happened
to Gavin Newsom. When Gavin Newsom debated Ron DeSantis and
(06:03):
got completely and totally filayed in the Sean Hannity primetime special.
It was because Hannity didn't really do anything other than
present facts. But Gavin Newsom lives in that alternative facts
universe of MSNBC and CNN, and he walked right into
a buzzsaw and got obliterated because Florida handled COVID better
(06:28):
than California did as an objective measure of fact in
every respect. And so when that's actually pointed out and
when you have to deal with it, Democrats don't react
very well. In fact, Nancy Pelosi really kind of lost
it there that she was questioned in any way on
MSNBC and then called Katie Turror Trump propagandist for pointing out, Hey,
(06:53):
you know, COVID was going on, and they've made this
argument because Biden came back in, they started to open
back up. I think the math is buck, there are
most of the job growth in Joe Biden, if you
take away the people who just got to go back
to the jobs that they already had, is actually in
illegal immigrants. The number of new American citizen jobs that
(07:16):
have existed during Joe Biden's tenure is not very substantial
at all. So they're cooking the books here to make
Biden's economic numbers look better than they actually are, and
the numbers still aren't that great. Well, to say that
the worst job losses.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
In history occurred under Donald Trump, when the truth is
it was a pandemic and that the criticism of Trump
from the Democrats, including from Nancy Pelosi, was that he
didn't shut down more, he didn't shut down harder for longer.
It is so disingenuous, and it just requires Nancy Pelosi
just spewing this venom of stupidity, which she does all
(07:55):
the time, where it just doesn't matter to her in
the least how untrue and what a big pile of
bull crap it is that she's pushing forward to the
point where even even Katie Turrea, I think, realized it
would be embarrassing. It would be embarrassing for her to
go along with that, because there are a lot of
things that they can and do say about Donald Trump,
(08:17):
but to pretend like the job losses of the pandemic
are representative of the Trump economy Trumpet comedy was fantastic.
Joe Biden's economy stinks. Everybody knows it. And so what
Pelosi does is try out that talking point. There's that,
but then there's also this Pelosi saying that after the election,
Democrats and they've said this about other things before, but
(08:40):
that they would be willing to nuke the filibuster and
go for a national abortion law.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Seven play it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
And if President Biden gets re elected and there's a
Democratic House and a Democratic Senate, what can President Biden
the Democrats do to protect abortion nationwide?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Very clearly, we can line into the wall Roe v.
Wade and that makes a big diff.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
That would take two thirds in the Senate. I think
the Democrats can get two thirds in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Doesn't get two thirds, that doesn't it. I mean, sixty
votes is the Senate now. But if we win fifty
plus one in the Senate, fifty plus the Vice president,
we can overturn the sixty vote, the filibuster, the philibuster,
and pass it with a fifty one vote margin.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
First of all, that would be inviting the just continued changes.
With every change of the Senate and the House, you
would have this back and forth over something as serious
and intense as they fight over abortion laws. But even
beyond that, I do think that Clay the Democrats will
get rid of the filibuster. I don't know if it's
(09:47):
on this issue. It may be, but it is just
a matter of time. Let's not forget it was Democrats
who initially started this fight by getting rid of it
when it comes to judges, so it was Harry Reid.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I also think it would be a funny response to
the Nancy Pelosi commentary, not only on the filibuster, but
particularly on the job creation by Joe Biden and her
attack on Trump that he had the worst job record ever.
You know, FDR had a really rough record when it
came to soldiers who died while he was president too.
(10:20):
He didn't choose World War two to start and he
had to get involved. But if you compared let's say
FDR's presidential loss of life to Hoover's, then FDR would
look atrocious because World War II happened. So it just
takes the barest minimum of pushback to say, well, that's
(10:42):
because of COVID and because of Democrat policies. But her
anger at the fact that that was even raised as
an issue is indicative of how much I believe they
have come to anticipate total propagandistic media to further their arguments,
even when they are intellectually dishonest, and even when they're
(11:03):
talking to someone who's inclined to believe the arguments that
they're making.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It almost felt like Nancy was about to fall out
of her chair, not on a drunken stupor, but but
to express her outrage at Katie Turf for not understanding
Biden's behind in every swing stack. Right now in the polls,
Biden is losing ground with each passing day.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
This is not going the way the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I really think now we're deep enough into the legal
stuff that we can see Democrats thought the legal stuff
would sing Trump. They were wrong, yes, meeting in public opinion.
I don't know what's going to happen with the actual trials,
but they thought public opinion would turn against Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
If they used the law fair.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They use the law fair canon the way that they
have and it's the opposite. And I think that they
are panicked because I don't have any good plan b.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's turned into potentially the most destructive own goal in
modern American political history. Now there's still six months out.
We'll talk about some of the latest numbers. So maybe
they still think they're going to get some benefit of it.
But right now Trump has painted them into a corner.
And even these discussions about contempt of court I think
are making the Democrats look worse. We'll talk about all
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. While many
of us were sleeping last night, the Columbia University protesters
stormed a building and took control of it. This also
comes on the heels of at UCLA. They're being student protesters.
(13:57):
I don't know if you saw this viral video. Buck,
a Jewish student was asking to be allowed to walk
through the campus and followers anti Israel protesters pro hamas
whoever you want to cover, you want to classify. These
protesters refuse to let the Jewish student into the campus,
(14:18):
and Dave Ruben pointed out YouTube has a great show,
been on this show quite a few times. Dave Rubin
pointed out that if there was ever a situation where
a black student was refused access to some part of campus,
the entire world would come undone. They would call in
(14:38):
the National Guard, The students who were refusing access would
be arrested. They would become absolute infidels in the idea
of the country. They would they would never be able
to get jobs, their lives would be ruined. But these
protesters who are anti Israel are doing it to Jewish
students and and they aren't even taking any action at UCLA.
(15:02):
Gavin Newsom, who claims to care about equality and tolerance
and truth and justice and all these things, isn't taking
any action. Joe Biden isn't taking any action. It's coast
to coast now. The only places that are taking action
are Southern states and Red states. And I want to
give credit Buck. I want to read this opening. I
(15:23):
don't know if you saw this in your new home
state of Florida, but the University of Florida put out
a statement last night which I thought was absolutely fantastic
as it pertains to how they were dealing with students.
And the statement begins if you didn't see this, which
is pran to a This is from the University of
(15:44):
Florida in response made to the arrests of protesters. This
is their official statement. This is not complicated. The University
of Florida is not a daycare. We do not treat
protesters like children. They knew the rules, they broke the rules,
and they'll face the consequences. For many days, we patiently
told protesters, many of whom are outside agitators, they were
(16:06):
able to exercise their right to free speech and free assembly.
But we told them that clearly prohibited activities would result
in trespassing orders, and they took action against them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Bravo.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Still hasn't happened at Columbia. Still hasn't happened at UCLA.
Blue state, blue city universities are unable to protect students
and allow content neutral policies.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, my wife is a University of Florida alumna,
and yes, very proud. We were talking about this last night,
very proud of her school's response this. I must give
credit to Ben Sass, former Republican senator from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He is the chancellor or the president or whatever you
call it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's your head honcho of the of uff and he's
doing exactly the right thing. And I think that these
schools in these states just the same way that people
saw crazy co with policies and horrible crime policies and
all these things and said, I'm moving to places that
are making different decisions. I think schools like U of
(17:09):
f ut Austin, although Austin's obviously in a very liberal place,
they're going to be rising up in the rankings, and
more and more people are gonna want They're already very
good schools, but more and more people are going to
want to go to those schools because ultimately, why go
to a school where you've got a bunch of communists
calling the shots if there's no benefit to it and
you have a better experience with bet with better weather
(17:29):
in Florida or Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'm curious what your answer would be when we come back,
and I'm even curious how you guys would respond out there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
I'll confess.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
When Ben Sas left of the Senate, I thought to
take the job at the University of Florida. I thought
to myself, Wow, he's really stepping down in terms of
his influence. Is he actually having far more influence as
the president of the University of Florida on the nation
as a whole than he did as a senator from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
We'll talk about it.
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talking about the campus protest, obviously, and what's going on
with the different reactions to it. I think some schools
(19:05):
are making exactly the right move. We were talking at
UFF a second ago. Play asked me is Ben Sas
having more influence at the University of Florida than he
did as a United States Senator from Nebraska. I think
the answer is probably yes, at least in this moment,
given that he was pretty anti Trump and there wasn't
(19:29):
really a lot of room for him in the Republican Party,
which is why, I think, or for him to maneuver
the way he wanted to, which is why he stopped
his political career at least for a time and went
to do his duties at the University of Florida. By
the way, I'm sure being big president or chancellor or
whatever one of these big universities anywhere, just as a
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quality of life thing, it's a great gig.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They're making seven figures in a lot of these places.
Let's let's say you're making a million bucks, you're housing,
you get to live in some mansion. That's all appointed
and set up for you. When you move into your mansion,
you go to cocktail parties, you hang out with donors,
you go to some meetings I don't know. You get
to like work out in the school, gym, use all
the facilities. It's a great gig. I'd do sporting events.
(20:14):
You have an incredible suite for all the big sporting
events to go to. I would have thought, and I'll
admit it, when he left to go to the University
of Florida, I thought, there's no way that I can't
believe he's giving up a Senate seat to go be
a president of a state university.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was totally wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I think what he has done in terms of standing
up for free speech on a content neutral basis at
the University of Florida is more impactful than he could
have been as a senator at Nebraska. And I think
about these kind of things a lot. One reason that
I do the show with you today, Buck is I
still love sports, not going to pretend that I don't.
(20:56):
I was doing sports soccer radio. Our boss who were
going to be with this weekend, Julie Talbot at the
Kentucky Derby. I don't think we've said, we're going to
be there yet. It's going to be a lot of fun,
you and I and our wives. She said, Look, I
know you love sports.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like sports.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You could have way more influence on this show in
terms of the things that you truly care about than
you could continue to talk about sports. And that was
incredibly persuasive to me to do this. And I think
there are lots of you out there. Whatever you do
in your life, you're listening to us, and you are
really honestly troubled on a profound degree by what you
(21:33):
see happening, let's say, on the university campuses right now,
what you see happening in the country. Because, as we've
said for some time, it's one thing to argue what
the corporate tax rate should be or whether you should
and you could have a variety of opinions. I think
they should be low, but you could have a variety
of opinions on those. You can have a difference of opinion,
let's say, on how exactly to implement hiring practices, or
(22:00):
what you should do when it comes to socioeconomic admissions
or legacy admissions. All these things are really interesting questions.
Whether America is good or evil is a profound question,
and I think a lot of you out there are
contemplating whatever you do in your life, how can you
be the most impactful. And we need to invite Ali
(22:20):
Ben sas On because I would love to hear how
he worked through the process to make the decision him
going to the University of Florida and standing up for
free speech and for the rights of all students to
be able to speak, but also for content neutral policies
to be applied. Is how you win the next generation.
And to your point, Buck, I think there are a
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lot of people out there who maybe historically twenty years ago,
going to Columbia with something a lot of people would
aspire to do. Being at an Ivy League school would
make a tremendous difference in your life. I've seen a
ton of people who have really great academic credentials who decided,
you know what, I'm done with this Northeastern crazy left
(23:03):
wing bs. I want my kids to go to the
University of Georgia, or the University of Florida, or the
University of Alabama or the University of Tennessee. When I
went away to college in DC, the idea that moms
and dads in New York and California would be encouraging
their kids to go to a Southeastern Conference school, or
to go to Clemson or Florida State or the University
(23:25):
of Texas, which I guess now is an SEC school.
Bucket would have been crazy. Now it's almost impossible to
get into a lot of these SEC schools. You had
to have a pulse to get into the University of
Tennessee when I was graduating from high school in nineteen
ninety seven. There are tons of kids with three fives
in good SAT and ACT scores from the state of
(23:48):
Tennessee now that can't get into the University of Tennessee
because the out of state quality of applicant has skyrocketed.
Over half of the students at the University of Alabama
now are from out of state.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
If you grew up in LA or New York City,
the idea that you would be sending your kid to
Alabama to get an education in two thousand, you would
have been crazy. Now they're fighting to get in.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I mean, my sister went to Davidson and I applied
to vandal Actually, so I mean there's Davidson.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I would say there are some Davidson is an elite
Acadavidson Vanderbilt a bunch of schools that have been popular.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Would you apply to an SEC school? I did not
apply to that. Well, I don't know what the SEC was. Okay, right,
So in two thousand years you graduate high school O.
Three h four.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No, I don't like a decade before you. I can't
do Yeah, exactly, I graduated in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Okay, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
If you had walked into the the the admissions office
in two thousand at your elite high school and you
had said, hey, I'm trying to decide between Amherst and LSU,
your your admissions counselor would have strangled you to death
(25:05):
on like in that admissions office. I bet you that
there are starting to be conversations in your high school
now where somebody walks in and there like, hey, I
got a full ride to the University of Georgia or
I could go and have to pay nearly full freight
to go to Cornell.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I can tell you I had a legit argument. I
had a friend. I think it's called the Jefferson Scholarship
at UVA. Yes, I applied for that. Who got the
Jefferalship at UVA and got in. He was a white
Irish Catholic kid. He got into Harvard and he got
the Jefferson scholarship at UVA, and he went to Harvard
and took out loans. And I think that was I
think that was.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
The wrong call. I think that was the wrong call.
My thought is the wrong call. Then my final call
for college was GW or UVA.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I had a scholarship to both, and you can maybe
argue I made the wrong decision. I actually went to
GW because it was in d C. And I've got
a little bit bigger scholarship. But I really thought deeply
about that, and I still wonder if I made the
right decision, you know, long range. But that was an
elite college school. I guarantee you now those debates are
going on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I talked to people abou this at the time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Carrie said to me last night, she said, you know,
obviously we're hoping to start the family in the next year.
You know, God gone willing and saying prayers about it.
But she said, you know, what would you think if
if we had a son or daughter you know who
knows yep, And they wanted to go to UPS, and
I think that would be amazing. I think that would
be fantastic. I think that going to a place where
(26:31):
you're going to have a really good experience. And for
I know, we have more parents of children listening to
us than we do teenagers who are thinking about going
to college. But the experience and having having a really
sort of positive four years where you learn a lot
and grow a lot's.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
More important than the resume bullet.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And I speak to somebody who took a job instead
of going to I got into a couple of Ivy
League MBA programs, and you know, I just looked at
how much time it would be off the working line
and how much debt I'd go into. I had no money.
I mean I had like, you know, like a thousand
dollars in the bank to my name when I was
applying to these schools and I decided to go work
(27:10):
for Glenn instead. I think it was the best, other
than marrying my wife, the best adult decision I ever made.
And I think that people are going to see this
play as also part of the big red state Blue
state storting. I mean, it's COVID put into motion, very
clear differences in philosophy, in governing philosophy, but also in
life philosophy that's playing out with the massive migrations. And
(27:32):
again I speak from experience to somebody who I don't
think anybody loved New York from the early nineteen eighties
until the you know late too, you know the twenty
ten era more than me. But I decided it was
time to change it up. And I think you're seeing
that with these schools too because of the protests. But
everything the protest is just one symptom of the larger
malady that's going on. I can tell you I don't
(27:54):
pay a lot of attention to where somebody went to college,
because we don't hire a lot of twenty two year olds.
I'm more interested in your work product at OutKick, and
when I've had impact in being able to hire over
the years, I can't tell you how many of where
everybody went to college that we employ now at OutKick.
I can tell you that if I was starting a
(28:15):
new company and I was hiring twenty two year olds,
I would be more likely to hire an SEC college graduate.
And I'm including like Clemson and Florida State Ish schools
in that mix, right, sec footprint schools Southern state footprints
than I would a Columbia grad. And I don't think
there's any way I would have said that twenty years ago.
(28:37):
And I bet there's a lot of you out there
now who are in that hiring universe. And when you
see a University of Florida resume, you kind of perk
up a little bit, and when you see a Columbia resume,
you kind of cringe a little bit because of what
you're seeing on those campuses. I'm going to be doing
this soon because my sixteen year old who's going to
(28:59):
be a junior next year. It's kind of when you
start to look at colleges and I'm gonna let him
make his own choices and he's got his own resume
and life ideals like anybody else, and I'm gonna be
going around to a lot of these campuses and visiting
them with him, and I'm curious to see it twenty
years later. I can tell you, for instance, as a parent,
(29:20):
when I read the Vanderbilt University statement on the first
Amendment from their new chancellor that was in the Wall
Street Journal and the fact that they kicked the kids
who broke the rules and attacked a guard out of
school immediately. It makes me feel way better about paying
tuition to Vanderbilt than I would if they had a
(29:41):
tent encampment there right now. And if there are tent
encampments on college campuses, if I were looking now, I
would cross those off my list. I'll let my sixteen
year old make his own decisions, but I'm going to
be in this process soon, and.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
There are a lot of these big state schools where
I would say, you know what, if you're especially if
you're in the honors college, if you get the opportunity
to go to those schools, I would say, take it
potentially over the Ivy League. Also, if you go to
go to grad school. My advice for people out there,
money's not unlimited. If you were going to spend money,
I would spend money on a law school, a medical school,
(30:18):
something like that, business school, maybe at an elite place
over undergrad degree I know you're going to go. I
know very few people now who look back on their MBA.
I have a lot of friends who got MBAs.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's actually very common coming out of the government that
think that their NBA was really worth it. It was
kind of like two years of socializing and beer drinking
as an adult while you figured out your Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Gig not not pically worth.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Do not allow your kid to do a journalism degree. Okay,
there's no need. Journalism is called. We agree on that.
I don't know a lot about business school. I love
the law school, and I do think it's been useful.
The Vanderbilt Law School was probably the best three years
of my life. I feel like it was credible, But
I certainly understand why it's a totally different world. Why
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Giving the ultimate sacrifice, and I'm sure that Tunnel to
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Again, Tunnel of the Towers does incredible work with these guys,
but you probably will notice that the four police officers
law enforcement personnel who were killed in Charlotte will rapidly
vanish from the news, despite the fact that the data
all reflects and we had Heather MacDonald on I think
(33:49):
on this show years ago to lay this out because
I thought it was staggering. I believe the data was
buck that if you're a police officer, you have a
ten thousand percent greater odds of being shot and killed
than anyone who is shot and killed by police.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I think it was ten thousand percent greater chance.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
So every time somebody pulls over a police officer pulls
over a car every time they approach anyone. The amount
of danger that they're under is pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And I think the video just to be have you
seen it, by the way, the video of the of
the shootout where you can see two officers with long
guns and they are set up alongside their their vehicle.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's up on the Daily Mail.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
We could probably borrow the video and put it up
at claimbuck dot com and you can just see what
a you know, you could see the tactical situation that
they're in. They're behind the wheel, something people don't often
know from watching TV. But they taught us this in
the agency, and they certainly teaching law enforcement. Really, the
only parts of a car that will protect you from
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so you want to crouch in behind a wheel or
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TV where you know doors doors or Swiss cheese glass
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right through, so you can see the officers. Now, I
(35:17):
don't believe either those officers were injured, but they were
on the scene as well, and there's very clear video
of them engaging with two shooters. It was two shooters
who ambushed these officers, was what I read. So we
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